Speaker 1: I am all in.
Speaker 2: That's you.
Speaker 3: I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeart radio podcast.
Speaker 3: It's so weird how you remember like moments in a
Speaker 3: show that are like upsetting and with ed herman not
Speaker 3: being alive anymore, it's even more painful.
Speaker 1: That it was hard to watch for that reason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, but I enjoyed the episode. I really
Speaker 1: got a lot of cackles. I've never liked Paris more.
Speaker 1: Me too, I saw another side of Lucy.
Speaker 3: Lucy was good in this one. Guys, see that that's
Speaker 3: the Lucy I like she was alady under.
Speaker 1: I just enjoyed. Was just a very enjoyable episode from
Speaker 1: from top to bottom.
Speaker 2: Iually agree.
Speaker 3: And Paris was at her best, and like, you know what,
Speaker 3: Paris is a good friend to Rory and she she
Speaker 3: has been a longtime friend and I kind of we'll
Speaker 3: talk about it, but yeah, it's like that.
Speaker 1: Nice balance she had between being a supportive friend and
Speaker 1: still having her edge right being Paris, and that's the
Speaker 1: that's the Paris that I like.
Speaker 3: Christopher is a toolbag in this he just did is
Speaker 3: He's a tool bag.
Speaker 1: He didn't really come off to me, like with God.
Speaker 3: I think he's overreacting so bad.
Speaker 1: He is, but he is, But that's he's not wrong,
Speaker 1: but he's not right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I would also like if you marry a girl
Speaker 3: who canceled her engagement one day before, there's going to
Speaker 3: be some residual sort of good What did.
Speaker 2: He think was going to happen?
Speaker 1: The unconscious nature of love, that's the unconscious nature of desire.
Speaker 1: We don't see things that are right in front of
Speaker 1: our face. And I think that goes for Laura too.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about two people who are operating on
Speaker 1: levels where they're missing a lot of stuff because they
Speaker 1: have this sort of this agenda where you know, they
Speaker 1: both want to be together to think it's the right
Speaker 1: thing to do. They've been sort of, I don't know,
Speaker 1: almost convinced themselves that this is the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: And it's not coming from, you know, a really centered,
Speaker 1: emotionally mature place. And so they're both you know, it's
Speaker 1: fraught with error. And I don't blame them, you know,
Speaker 1: and you can't judge them. It's like they're they're trying
Speaker 1: to do their best here and make a family. And ye, boy,
Speaker 1: I tell you.
Speaker 3: That ship is sailing away.
Speaker 1: That was always hanging by a thread anyway, right, and
Speaker 1: we all know that. And I think that's the brilliance
Speaker 1: of it, you know, with the brilliance of the writing
Speaker 1: that's set up the whole thing is we see that
Speaker 1: it's hanging by just a thread, and the tension is
Speaker 1: when's it going to break? When's it going to break? Oh? God?
Speaker 1: And it did?
Speaker 4: Was that?
Speaker 3: Is this episode? Thirteen twelve? Okay, so Christopher's got one more?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: One more? No?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't and there has to be something.
Speaker 3: There's one.
Speaker 6: No, I think there's I think there's more than one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Because the end of this episode, I actually started remembering
Speaker 6: like every I feel like I blacked out the first
Speaker 6: half of the season and then now I'm like, oh,
Speaker 6: now get to do everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And it was very very hard for me
Speaker 3: to not watch the next episode, almost just for my
Speaker 3: own anxiety, because I was like, I need to know
Speaker 3: that Richard is like okay, which obviously we all know
Speaker 3: he is okay, but I'm not spoiling. Sorry.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, Daniel, it's hard when it shows now for
Speaker 2: twenty year.
Speaker 3: God, I'm so sorry, Daniel. It's okay.
Speaker 5: I figured that there's going to be a hospital scene
Speaker 5: and Lucas and I think it's a repeat of the
Speaker 5: last hospitals.
Speaker 3: You know that he lives. I'm sorry, Scott, but I
Speaker 3: know you know because you have scenes with Betterman. But anyway,
Speaker 3: I was kidding, it's uh upsetting this episode. The end
Speaker 3: is very very like I got like Ajida and cried.
Speaker 5: Like there's anxiety cliffhanger, like I didn't need that anxiety.
Speaker 3: Going to no, especially what Danielle I have been through,
Speaker 3: and like Scott YouTube and with Sam it's like it
Speaker 3: was not it was the really deep breathed because it
Speaker 3: was very triggering.
Speaker 1: But especially after what we went through witnessing this this
Speaker 1: beautiful kind of montage letter, the reading of the letter
Speaker 1: which started out and really great and then his voice
Speaker 1: taking over and we're going, very well done, And that was.
Speaker 3: Great face acting, Scott Patterson. Great face acting during the
Speaker 3: reading of the letter, because you conveyed so much of
Speaker 3: how much that letter meant to you.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to throw a flag on myself because okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you when he blurted out his little
Speaker 1: speech about how he thinks he's going to be a
Speaker 1: good father and all that, I just thought it wasn't
Speaker 1: invested enough. I didn't believe it.
Speaker 2: I didn't believe it did be worried about your parking pass,
Speaker 2: your parking ticket.
Speaker 1: I thought that speech should have been far more heartfelt
Speaker 1: and I should have raised stakes on it more and
Speaker 1: I could.
Speaker 3: I guess I thought it.
Speaker 1: Was flat for me, and I just I would have
Speaker 1: not if I was editing the episode and I had
Speaker 1: a better choice, I would not have used used.
Speaker 3: A different version of that.
Speaker 5: And I kind of disagree because I feel like Scott
Speaker 5: Scott Luke Luke was so was so scrambled in this episode,
Speaker 5: Like his thoughts were just like all over the place,
Speaker 5: and he gets to the courthouse early and he's nervous
Speaker 5: and and I don't know, I felt like and he
Speaker 5: wasn't even supposed to speak right, So like him, I
Speaker 5: kind of liked him lobbing that a little bit because
Speaker 5: then it the emphasis on lorealized letter locking in custody situation,
Speaker 5: you know, it just like made it like yep, it's
Speaker 5: that letter that really that really really helped because I
Speaker 5: don't know, and I like.
Speaker 3: Ask something Scott and tell me, like I don't know
Speaker 3: Diddley about acting right other than just like I like
Speaker 3: watching acting, I find that you tend to be and
Speaker 3: this is a compliment, like an understated actor. I never
Speaker 3: feel like you're over the top or over acting, and
Speaker 3: I think that's why your performance, especially as Luke, is
Speaker 3: so genuine.
Speaker 1: Well that's why I think I'm throwing the flag because
Speaker 1: it wasn't emotionally full and it was too large to
Speaker 1: try to overcompensate. So it should have been a bigger feeling,
Speaker 1: but smaller gestures almost.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I learned a great lesson very early on in my
Speaker 1: acting training, and that was because I was larger than
Speaker 1: your normal actor.
Speaker 3: Oh you're tall, because you're tall, right, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Less I do, the better it is. And that's interesting
Speaker 1: because I used to be very expressive and very.
Speaker 3: Physical on Seinfeld. What was it was like your episode?
Speaker 2: Were you worthy of the worthy?
Speaker 3: Do you ever think about the fact that you're like
Speaker 3: in an iconic Seinfeld?
Speaker 1: That's so insane, that's kind of I got a nice
Speaker 1: residual check from that. Yeah, I got a fairly big
Speaker 1: one too.
Speaker 3: More than Gilmore.
Speaker 1: No, Gilmore is kind of tapering off, but it's once
Speaker 1: in a while you get a big one that what year.
Speaker 6: Did those stop? Because like some people a certain show
Speaker 6: a certain year no longer get residuals uh I does it.
Speaker 1: Depends on I think as long as they're on the air,
Speaker 1: you get the residence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, Like it's probably like you get
Speaker 3: less though if it's on up TV, then if it's
Speaker 3: on the CW or something like that. But Seinfeld, good
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just I realized, you know what I realized the
Speaker 1: other day because I realized that Jerry Seinfeld is the
Speaker 1: person who really helped jumpstart my career because that show
Speaker 1: really vaulted me into anyway, enough about.
Speaker 3: Me, you should send him a little note. Maybe he'll respond.
Speaker 1: I just I just saw an interview with him and
Speaker 1: Barry Weiss. He was fascinating.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was. He says some things, but okay, okay, Jerry, whatever,
Speaker 3: stand up. Not that long ago I went to his show.
Speaker 1: Comedy is a big deal right now. Comedy is really
Speaker 1: in demand right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a handful that I like. But anyway, I.
Speaker 1: Wish I'd been better in that scene. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I wish I'd been better.
Speaker 3: Well that's good for you to say. We don't agree,
Speaker 3: but good people to say Susanne, you want to take
Speaker 3: it away?
Speaker 1: Oh first, hang on, I think we need to do it.
Speaker 1: I got to do an intro. Hey, three two one,
Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson here, I am all in podcasts,
Speaker 1: well on professions. iHeartRadio. I heart podcast. I know Amy's
Speaker 1: always trying to avoid that. No, but I like it.
Speaker 3: Like we've been on the air the whole time. I
Speaker 3: got here a little lake because.
Speaker 1: I would, because I like doing it, because it's now,
Speaker 1: it's official.
Speaker 3: It's sometimes I don't know if we're just chatting, because
Speaker 3: like we all chat a lot. I know you.
Speaker 1: I know you're trying to get me not to do it.
Speaker 1: I'm doing it, and the episode I'm actually gonna do
Speaker 1: it again. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson. I season seven, episode twelve,
Speaker 1: what's the name of this thing?
Speaker 5: Straight out of to concerns who are make it?
Speaker 6: Sorry?
Speaker 1: Of course, the original title was straight out of Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: but they changed the title. I am joined by my I.
Speaker 3: Forget my setup. I'm fully in bed.
Speaker 1: She's one hundred and seven degrees in bed in normal.
Speaker 6: It looks like you're on a top bunk and sweating.
Speaker 1: Danielle rom terror suit is out of her cast she's
Speaker 1: putting on the leg Yes, in.
Speaker 3: Time for Janet Jackson, just for Janet, Tara and Danielle
Speaker 3: and I sorry, Scott's ant are going to Janet Jackson
Speaker 3: on Wednesday. Oh wow, what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 1: I tell you, I keep missing those Janet Jacksons. There's
Speaker 1: there's a hole in my life.
Speaker 3: Size Yeah, up side, Danielle, miss Romo. If your nasty,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 5: Okay, guys, this is season seven, episode twelve, To whom
Speaker 5: it May Concern, Air date January thirtieth, two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1: You know, I was trying to think of that, and
Speaker 1: then said I heard, but.
Speaker 3: I couldn't think that's the best one.
Speaker 1: I heard the rhythm of it, but I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, we are a part. I can't the nation?
Speaker 2: Go ahead?
Speaker 3: Go ahead? He's Scott walked me right into that, Like
Speaker 3: I couldn't come on, okay.
Speaker 5: Rory returns to Yale after winter break and leaves Lucy
Speaker 5: a note apologizing. While Paris plans for their future, Sukie
Speaker 5: finds out she is pregnant. Meanwhile, Luke's custody back April
Speaker 5: comes to an end with a victory, and Christopher questions
Speaker 5: Laura like about her true feelings for Luke after reading
Speaker 5: her character reference letter.
Speaker 3: Dude, Christopher was like, outy five thousand. That was like crazy,
Speaker 3: But anyway, we'll get to that.
Speaker 2: This was the first episode that had Lauren credited as
Speaker 2: a producer.
Speaker 3: Oh really, no, no, I thought I've seen that before. Guys.
Speaker 3: Oh no, you know what, and I'm confusing that with
Speaker 3: a different show.
Speaker 5: It just makes sense as to why it's getting good again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I have a big red flag, but we'll
Speaker 2: get to that.
Speaker 3: I have a couple but still it's yeah, it's mostly good.
Speaker 3: And it's like it's Gilmore good. It's not even just
Speaker 3: season seven good. It's like Gilmore good.
Speaker 2: It's good, yeah, right in the grand scheme of Gilmore.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it starts out at the end of Friday Night
Speaker 2: Dinner where they're leaving. Oh yeah, the gross the tequila
Speaker 2: cactus sauce on the quail, like that whole thing just
Speaker 2: none of that sounded right.
Speaker 1: Concoction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I googled it because I was curious, like
Speaker 2: is this a real thing? And I found a recipe
Speaker 2: for chicken mast lawn, but it didn't have a tequila
Speaker 2: cactus sauce. It just was like taco sauce or something.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, and one thing that caught my eye in the
Speaker 2: scene will not my eye, I guess it was my
Speaker 2: but so had we had a big gap we had
Speaker 2: when they had the argument about the party. That was
Speaker 2: at the beginning of December, and then we skipped to
Speaker 2: January twenty third was the Christmas episode, and I just
Speaker 2: assumed that the party had happened kind of in that interim.
Speaker 2: But in the opening of this episode, Emily says to
Speaker 2: Laura I that she's not going to be available to
Speaker 2: work on the seating chart for the party. So I realized,
Speaker 2: oh wait, that that big like re wedding party hasn't
Speaker 2: happened yet. I guess that kind of surprised because it's
Speaker 2: been like six weeks.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and like school's just getting.
Speaker 3: Back, like it may never happen.
Speaker 2: Yes, So I just thought that was one of those
Speaker 2: things that they never showed us that they had the party.
Speaker 2: We just didn't see it. But apparently it hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 2: But anyways, so they go outside and Christopher wants to
Speaker 2: just three with the chicken or the quail. In the book,
Speaker 2: Laurel I tells the story about how they did that
Speaker 2: once and the neighbor's cat dragged it onto the backpack.
Speaker 2: That made me laugh, and then okay, so then it
Speaker 2: goes to Laurel's house. The next morning, uh Suki shows
Speaker 2: up with coffee and muffin tops, and she's acting like
Speaker 2: kind of whiny and kind of like she's acting really.
Speaker 3: Wait, sorry, sorry, sorry, did we talk about whatever gross
Speaker 3: thing they ate? Sorry if my brain glitched. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I've never eaten that and I don't want to Okay, sorry,
Speaker 3: back to the muffin tops, which I'm a huge fan of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I like muffin tops. I and I
Speaker 2: was curious about the muff and bottom pie that they
Speaker 2: can't talk.
Speaker 3: Can I give a couple of flags on this scene? Yes,
Speaker 3: Suki constantly getting up and getting those napkins, the cloth napkins,
Speaker 3: and then getting up again and getting a cloth napkin,
Speaker 3: and then and the cloth napkin. It was like very distracting,
Speaker 3: and she was so weird. It's like they weren't they
Speaker 3: didn't want to eat, which I is kind of like
Speaker 3: a pet peeve. Like Christopher was eating the muff and
Speaker 3: like a pea sized crumb of them, and I'm like
Speaker 3: that is so distracting. Just don't eat it, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? Just be like, yuh, I can't wait
Speaker 3: to eat this muffin and then chitter chattered, chitter chatter,
Speaker 3: and we'll just assumuate it after clock.
Speaker 2: Napkins are not at all consistent with lauralized at all.
Speaker 2: I'm like, she's paper towels all the way, dude.
Speaker 6: For sure.
Speaker 3: Those were like those were like pressed like with an
Speaker 3: iron cloth, napkins folded. I'm like, did Suki bring those?
Speaker 3: What is happening? And who eats like a cloth.
Speaker 6: Nap often maybe it's a Chris thing. I don't know's
Speaker 6: rearranging the house, God getting.
Speaker 2: Them off of the shelf. She didn't bring them in?
Speaker 3: Well I know, yeah, and it was like too many
Speaker 3: props or something. But anyway you.
Speaker 1: Go, Scott, I think Sukie getting up so many times
Speaker 1: just you know, trying to express her nervousness. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: acting sense because she popped the question.
Speaker 6: I kind of had an issue with like this storyline.
Speaker 6: I just felt like it was dragged on too many scenes,
Speaker 6: Like I could have told you she was pregnant the
Speaker 6: second she showed up and was acting like I didn't
Speaker 6: need four more scenes.
Speaker 3: Of it, you know, or like, I also don't think
Speaker 3: she's gonna like be that weird about asking lower Light
Speaker 3: to babysit. It's her freaking best friend. She'd be like, Hey,
Speaker 3: we really need a day. Can you just like take
Speaker 3: care of the kids for a few hours? Like it
Speaker 3: was so weird. It's like, really you need muffin tops
Speaker 3: for that? Come on, although, is this the show that
Speaker 3: invented muffin tops?
Speaker 5: And assume they got it because I feel like it
Speaker 5: was popular during the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think muffin tops became like a thing right
Speaker 3: around that time.
Speaker 6: I'm going to google it.
Speaker 3: I don't know that whole scene was really Yeah, it
Speaker 3: wasn't so.
Speaker 5: I did like the coffee.
Speaker 3: It's got some forst bit the coffee tibit was you
Speaker 3: meek and interesting. Scott forced, Yes, it felt weird. I
Speaker 3: agree with you, it's weird.
Speaker 2: I didn't understand why laurla I told Chris that it
Speaker 2: was Luke's coffee, Like same, why would she?
Speaker 3: Why was she telling him about the letter? But yet
Speaker 3: she's like, by the way, you're drinking Luke's coffee, got
Speaker 3: choke on it exactly, here's my wound.
Speaker 2: Like you said, it's good coffee. She could have just
Speaker 2: said yeah.
Speaker 3: It is asked.
Speaker 1: He asked.
Speaker 3: Weird and weird like and Suki is going to go
Speaker 3: I don't know that.
Speaker 6: What time is it?
Speaker 3: Why are they up?
Speaker 2: Because they were going to go skiing?
Speaker 3: Why is Flora l I up?
Speaker 2: She woke her up coffee?
Speaker 3: No, I think Laura was in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: She was in the kitchen.
Speaker 6: I think all they were doing that day was Christal
Speaker 6: was setting up the TV.
Speaker 3: I don't think there was until ten. Where's gg what?
Speaker 2: Speaking of that? I I had a I guess a
Speaker 2: red flag on that because they were at Friday night
Speaker 2: dinner and then they're in Laurel Live's kitchen the next morning.
Speaker 6: So where's the kids?
Speaker 3: Well, it's Saturday, she's at the grandparents, that's right. He
Speaker 3: does call that.
Speaker 2: I don't say she's at the grandparents. But the whole
Speaker 2: day is Saturday, which means Luke was in court on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Richard was in his office at Yale on a Saturday.
Speaker 2: Lucy said she had a class. It was Saturday.
Speaker 3: Really what?
Speaker 2: Because John and I were watching it and we're like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, it's saturdayday. All this stuff happening on
Speaker 2: a Saturday.
Speaker 3: I had a court on Saturday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is really that's funny. I didn't even think
Speaker 6: about that all out.
Speaker 2: And then another thing from this scene too before we
Speaker 2: move on, one thing that that actually my husband caught
Speaker 2: this was there's artwork on you know, because they're in
Speaker 2: Laura on the doors right there. Did you see the artwork?
Speaker 3: I saw art work on the fridge or a picture
Speaker 3: of the fridge.
Speaker 2: There was artwork on her bedroom door. And then when
Speaker 2: Suki is at Suki's that same artwork is in substygen.
Speaker 6: Stop.
Speaker 3: Somebody on our crack staff needs to screenshot that and
Speaker 3: screenshot that for Instagram because that's craze.
Speaker 2: I actually did. I grabbed pictures of it life.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Can you text it in the group? That
Speaker 3: would be awesome. Because I noticed there was a picture
Speaker 3: of Gigi on the fridge. Now, yes, I saw that too,
Speaker 3: so I was like, oh, those an't I don't like those
Speaker 3: little touches. But yeah, this scene was the napkin thing
Speaker 3: was really telling me. I was like, why am I
Speaker 3: so obsessed? And I couldn't get my brain to go
Speaker 3: back to the conversation because I'm like, both napkins like
Speaker 3: it Saturday. I like a cloth napkin too, but Saturday
Speaker 3: morning with a muffin top, like, just eat that thing.
Speaker 3: And then you know Christopher with his sized bites, I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: eat it, come on, eat it.
Speaker 2: And then so then it goes to just a real
Speaker 2: quick sort of a transitional scene where we're at Yale.
Speaker 2: Everyone has a roller bag. I guess everyone takes roller
Speaker 2: bags on Christmas break and then brings back their roller
Speaker 2: bags because every single backack have a roller bag. And
Speaker 2: Rory sticks a letter on Lucy's door apartment door.
Speaker 3: I was happy though that the door was different from
Speaker 3: when we left it. A few of the stickies were
Speaker 3: gone and some new, so I was like, good detail. Yeah,
Speaker 3: who ever does that? Scott scripty? I don't know whoever
Speaker 3: does that good stuff?
Speaker 6: It might be Scripty.
Speaker 3: Also shout out to Brad Pitt, who eats on camera,
Speaker 3: and I have to say respect, Brad Pitt, thank you.
Speaker 6: Wait what were you watching Oceans?
Speaker 3: He eats through the whole movie and.
Speaker 1: I love he's always snacking.
Speaker 3: It's so good. I would it's great, Like, come on,
Speaker 3: you're a.
Speaker 5: Good, good fake eater. I mean you actually eat Scott
Speaker 5: better at it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's good.
Speaker 7: At it.
Speaker 1: That it's just because I'm always hungry.
Speaker 5: Like great, this is snack time.
Speaker 1: I just enjoy eating.
Speaker 2: So then we go to laurel I's living room. I
Speaker 2: guess I should say laurela in Christopher's living room because
Speaker 2: you know it's his house now too. And he's got
Speaker 2: the flat screen and a bunch of pieces all over
Speaker 2: the living room and his plan for the day is
Speaker 2: going to be to set up this, uh, this TV.
Speaker 2: Laurel I makes fun of him because he was using
Speaker 2: her conditioner and his hair smells good. I thought that
Speaker 2: was kind of cute, that little banter. She's like, you
Speaker 2: don't have anything to condition and yeah, that was a
Speaker 2: good little scene. He can't find the level to make
Speaker 2: sure the TV is straight, which becomes important later.
Speaker 5: Which is my red flag, but we'll deal with that later, Okay.
Speaker 2: Then we go to outside the courtroom and Luke looks
Speaker 2: very nice. He's shaved, he's in a nice suit and
Speaker 2: kind of talks to the lawyer about what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: And then Anna shows up and she's her typical obnoxious
Speaker 2: self and making it sound.
Speaker 6: Like I just wanted to like off my screen.
Speaker 5: Yes, like she's trying to intimidate Luke get out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when she was saying like, you don't have
Speaker 2: a history of long relationships with women like that has
Speaker 2: zero to do with parenting. So yeah, that's completely irrelement.
Speaker 2: First all, it's not even really that true, but it's
Speaker 2: completely irrelevant.
Speaker 5: I have a question a diner like she was like
Speaker 5: totally liken to squish him down. Yeah, but I do
Speaker 5: have a question.
Speaker 6: I can't I can't remember. And Susanne you might know
Speaker 6: the answer to this, But does Anna know about Luke's
Speaker 6: relationship with Rory or was the letter the first time
Speaker 6: that she may have heard it?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: They never really addressed that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because like I don't even think that Rory and
Speaker 6: Anna cross paths, like in the way that's like, oh,
Speaker 6: this is Rory. She grew up in stars Hal you know,
Speaker 6: I don't think. So, just wondering, like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't you have to imagine that Luke had mentioned it,
Speaker 1: had mentioned it to his daughter.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, not.
Speaker 1: To son would have gone on April, got it?
Speaker 5: Got it?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, there's cutting a lot of time together and
Speaker 1: during his hiatus from the wedding, I guess if you
Speaker 1: want to call it that.
Speaker 6: That's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably shared with her, shared with ape.
Speaker 2: So then owen Uh, George Anthony Bell was in that scene.
Speaker 3: He was the that's right dialg Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He was the he was the officer.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was nice to see him and a fine actor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely yes.
Speaker 2: And then we go to Okay, so the lawyers come,
Speaker 2: they go inside the conference room. The parking ticket, yeah,
Speaker 2: the party, yeah, whatever it was.
Speaker 3: That wasn't your best acting, scut, but otherwise fine, and
Speaker 3: she was not. That scene was weird because I didn't
Speaker 3: think Sherylyn Fenn was quite on point yet. It was
Speaker 3: a little bit I don't know. Maybe it was supposed
Speaker 3: to be awkward though, because it's so awkward, So maybe
Speaker 3: the parking ticket thing is like just adds to the awkwardness.
Speaker 3: So so maybe he didn't have anything else to make
Speaker 3: small talk about that I was feeling how awkward it is,
Speaker 3: so maybe bravo.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was all just too comfortable right away.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's your adversary right there. Yeah, they sit
Speaker 1: next to each other. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: So then Rory comes back into her apartment, coming back
Speaker 2: from winter break and Paris has these whiteboards all over
Speaker 2: the place and this is her game plan that she
Speaker 2: calls Operation Finish Line for getting through their last semester
Speaker 2: of college. And I thought that was funny, Like, I
Speaker 2: thought that was just so on point for Paris to
Speaker 2: do something like that. Oh yet like all these.
Speaker 3: Checkboxes, it was so funny, and yet those charts were
Speaker 3: like my.
Speaker 6: Eyes, I know, I was like trying to read it.
Speaker 3: Am I wrong? That there were poster side hot size
Speaker 3: versions and then mini versions for the table.
Speaker 6: Multiple Yeah, it was that made me so Paris though,
Speaker 6: like we I would expect nothing less.
Speaker 2: I know, I loved it. I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, And that's that I know, not that,
Speaker 3: but it's such a great scene in the cafeteria, Like
Speaker 3: that's that's like a great scene anyway, I'll shut up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pair is definitely was a highlight of this.
Speaker 1: Episode for me.
Speaker 2: So then we go to Suki's Loreleyes knocking on the door.
Speaker 2: Suki can't decide what to wear, and there's.
Speaker 6: So much going on with Lorelei's outfit, from the scarf
Speaker 6: to the sweater.
Speaker 1: Jacket.
Speaker 2: That yeah, that whole outfit with the I don't know
Speaker 2: she'd taken that sweater vest off, I would have liked
Speaker 2: it better, But that was they went hard on that
Speaker 2: trend and Gilmore girls with the tights o the big shirt. Yeah,
Speaker 2: totally fall sweater over the big shirt. That was popular
Speaker 2: for a while and it could just stay in the past.
Speaker 2: So really there there, There wasn't really anything significant in
Speaker 2: that scene. It was kind of just setting the stage
Speaker 2: that Loreley gets there, and again Suki is still kind
Speaker 2: of acting all weird and scattered and she's she's I
Speaker 2: thought it was weird that she wanted Lorala to come babysit,
Speaker 2: but then when it's actually time to leave, she doesn't
Speaker 2: want to go and she's crying saying, David, don't you
Speaker 2: want mommy to play with you?
Speaker 3: Like that? That didn't track for me.
Speaker 6: Well that's why I was like, I didn't need this
Speaker 6: many scenes about yeah dookie, Yeah, but I didn't need.
Speaker 2: That many, right. It was a little kind of over
Speaker 2: the top, and I didn't I didn't pick up on
Speaker 2: the pregnancy thing at first, so I'm like, I didn't
Speaker 2: understand any of this because I'm like, where are they
Speaker 2: going with this? Like why is she all weird. I
Speaker 2: mean the first time I watched it, obviously I knew
Speaker 2: what happened, but yeah, it just was a weird thing.
Speaker 2: So then we go to Richard's office on a Saturday again,
Speaker 2: and it was cute. I thought, Rory's visiting, you know,
Speaker 2: her grandpa's office, and he's got a desk and everything,
Speaker 2: and he's all excited to talk about this semester and.
Speaker 6: Did you remember what would happen? Because this scene is
Speaker 6: when I remembered the ending of this episode. This scene,
Speaker 6: I was like, oh no, like this is when I knew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't exactly remember that it was in
Speaker 2: this episode, but I knew it was coming at some point.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And but then Richard notices that Rory's kind of
Speaker 2: upset because she's still agitated about the Lucy thing, and
Speaker 2: so you know, they.
Speaker 5: I thought, I love I love Richard and Rory scenes.
Speaker 5: I really, I think they have such great chemistry as actors.
Speaker 5: But also I don't know, I think they're just so
Speaker 5: cute together, Like he gets excited to work and show
Speaker 5: can I show you my syllabus? Can you know.
Speaker 3: The way he I might be going out of order,
Speaker 3: but the way he knows something's wrong exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, He's like, what it was actually happening, and she
Speaker 5: just like whatever.
Speaker 3: He calls her, like an affectionate name or whatever. It's
Speaker 3: just like they really do seem like grandfather and granddaughter.
Speaker 3: They really really cute. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that scene. That was a nice moment. I
Speaker 2: thought it was good for him that he recognized, like
Speaker 2: from her face that something was wrong, and then he
Speaker 2: pivoted and comforted her about that because she was upset
Speaker 2: about the whole Mitcham thing and she went to him crying.
Speaker 2: He was like, I don't know what to do with this,
Speaker 2: like it threw him off his game. But now this
Speaker 2: time when she comes to him and she's upset, he
Speaker 2: went with it and he knew like exactly what to do.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: I think with Mitcham, he was took it offensively because
Speaker 5: that's his person or somebody of his caliber squashing his granddaughter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking about before that, before he knew that
Speaker 2: Mitcham was involved, when she just went to them and said,
Speaker 2: I'm not going back to Yale, and and her parents
Speaker 2: didn't know or they knew why, but they didn't believe
Speaker 2: Laura Lai why. It was just a contrast for me
Speaker 2: because she went to him upset one time and he
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do with her, and then this
Speaker 2: time when she went to him and she was upset,
Speaker 2: he was like very grandfatherly and yeah, sweet and comforting.
Speaker 2: So that was that was all I was trying to say.
Speaker 2: And the exact quote is here, Murray, you're a great
Speaker 2: person with a great heart, and that combination will always
Speaker 2: win the day. That was a nice a nice sentiment.
Speaker 5: That was cute.
Speaker 2: So okay. Then we get to Suki's and we find
Speaker 2: out that they came home early because Jackson wouldn't let
Speaker 2: Suki drink. He wouldn't let her ski.
Speaker 5: I would be so mad.
Speaker 2: And so then like Suki's upset and she's like, I'm
Speaker 2: going to go take care of my kids now.
Speaker 3: Is that okay?
Speaker 6: The whole time I was like where did they go?
Speaker 6: Where they're like skiing? Like how far did they drive?
Speaker 6: And then turn back around like how.
Speaker 1: Far part of the country. There's all kinds of little
Speaker 1: ski resorts all over the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could totally go for the day. Happened a day, okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because and then they talked about she wanted to
Speaker 2: have alcohol at lunch so I figured like they were
Speaker 2: gone at least a couple hours because it's now after lunch.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then this is where lore Lean and Jackson have
Speaker 2: the conversation that he never got the viseector.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, dude, which we knew, but dude, so
Speaker 3: well we didn't.
Speaker 2: We didn't know.
Speaker 3: That we need it. So because we nobody gets a
Speaker 3: bisect me in five minutes.
Speaker 2: I have big feelings about this. So what do you
Speaker 2: guys think?
Speaker 3: It's a mess. It's a total mess. It was crazy
Speaker 3: that she thought he was going to go get a
Speaker 3: vaseectomy four minutes later, and also crazy that he said
Speaker 3: he did it and didn't do it. But it's all
Speaker 3: it's all like kind of crazy in the sense of comedy, right, Scott, Like,
Speaker 3: it's sort of like.
Speaker 6: I laughed at it because I forgot that. I forgot
Speaker 6: that in the hospital room when she gave birth, She's like,
Speaker 6: go to the other room, get the.
Speaker 1: Back, which is I mean, I didn't think one thing
Speaker 1: about this scene was funny. Agreed, nothing about it was funny.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of uncomfortable to watch, you know.
Speaker 1: It's just anyway, Yeah, I I didn't.
Speaker 3: It's forced a little bit again right, Scott, like it
Speaker 3: is this is this like some writer's room and they're like,
Speaker 3: we need something, let's do this. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that. I don't know that
Speaker 1: vasctomy is you know, a central comedic tenant and I
Speaker 1: don't know in comedy college, listen, we got to really like,
Speaker 1: we got to really work on the judge, the old
Speaker 1: their gold. I mean, everybody's got to have a good Vesela.
Speaker 3: Do you think when when she had the baby and
Speaker 3: said go get a vasectomy, like it was like, go
Speaker 3: get me some gum at the you know, little market.
Speaker 3: It was always intended for this scenario. No, Like, do
Speaker 3: you think or do you think they were like we
Speaker 3: never solved that vasectomy?
Speaker 6: That's probably what they did.
Speaker 3: Have a baby.
Speaker 6: Wait, isn't this when she's actually pregnant. Wasn't Melissa McCarthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, presumably somebody. I don't know if it was the
Speaker 2: writer's idea or Melissa McCarthy wanted it. They decided to
Speaker 2: make Suki pregnant, so they had to explain away this
Speaker 2: vasectomy that had supposedly transparted.
Speaker 6: That has to be why. I don't think they just
Speaker 6: were like, let's pick this joke from three seasons ago.
Speaker 2: But it was such a crappy way to do it, Like,
Speaker 2: I feel like it was so disrespectful to Suki to
Speaker 2: take to have Jackson make that decision, because that makes
Speaker 2: him a complete hole. It just ruined Jackson's character for
Speaker 2: me that he she's been going it's been two years now.
Speaker 2: Did she thought he had aseectomy? And and you know,
Speaker 2: I yes, he thought she was on the pill, so
Speaker 2: he thought he didn't need to tell her. But that
Speaker 2: doesn't make it okay because you can still get pregnant
Speaker 2: on the pill.
Speaker 5: But didn't he say that the half of my cousin?
Speaker 1: Oh really?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Didn't she same situation too, has I'm supposed to get
Speaker 5: of a sectamy? Didn't? She was on the pill, got
Speaker 5: pregnant with twins.
Speaker 6: But wait, did she know that he didn't get the vasectomy?
Speaker 3: No, she did.
Speaker 5: You're talking about my cousin. Yeah, no, she she did know,
Speaker 5: but she was like pressing and pressing and pressing him,
Speaker 5: and he was like, I'm gonna do it. We gonna
Speaker 5: do it, we gonna do it, and just do it.
Speaker 6: But didn't Laurel I say, well, Suki just got off
Speaker 6: the pill and then doesn't Jackson say like, I know.
Speaker 3: Sause, I know that now.
Speaker 1: Oh God, I would have to say, if you were
Speaker 1: going to give a free pass to a guy that
Speaker 1: you know, delaying the decision to end his ability to
Speaker 1: have children would be a pre.
Speaker 5: Legit hashtag reversible.
Speaker 1: Oh is it really want to have it done and
Speaker 1: then reverse it? Because that's two surgeries.
Speaker 5: Now, I don't want to hear about no surgery.
Speaker 2: Sections. I don't want to hear about to surgery exactly what.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not I don't want to start a war
Speaker 1: with you, Susanne. It's it's just you know that kind
Speaker 1: of a procedure is like, I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to think if my if my wife asked me
Speaker 1: to get a visectomy, how I would feel.
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people are cool with it, like
Speaker 3: if they've got like.
Speaker 5: What my husband's cool with it? Well, yeah, he's actually
Speaker 5: like down for after that, Yeah, like when can I.
Speaker 2: Get this done?
Speaker 1: I'm just making an observation of view.
Speaker 3: Some men might be like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't want anything down there to not want one. It's
Speaker 2: totally fine to not want one, but it should be
Speaker 2: a conversation between the couple. It shouldn't be like, she
Speaker 2: thought I had this done and I didn't have it done,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to not tell her that she could
Speaker 2: still get pregnant.
Speaker 3: And also though she shouldn't have said like to do
Speaker 3: that in the first place.
Speaker 2: It was bad, but it was one hundred times worse
Speaker 2: that he didn't tell her that he didn't have it done,
Speaker 2: because now he has this knowledge that she can get
Speaker 2: pregnant and she doesn't have that knowledge. Like that's completely
Speaker 2: like an imbalance of the power in the relationship, and
Speaker 2: the person who's actually going to have the pregnancy should
Speaker 2: be in on that.
Speaker 6: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: You know, I just thought of a good vasectomy joke
Speaker 1: speaking of.
Speaker 3: You did you get it at comedy college?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no. It just popped into my head. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to formulate the right wording, but it's something along
Speaker 1: the lines of, Hey, this girl walked up to me.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know she said, you know what, she
Speaker 1: got to know me a little bit. She goes, you know,
Speaker 1: you know how to have a best actively. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's not good, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm saying I just feel like it should have been
Speaker 2: a conversation was that in comedy junior college, it was
Speaker 2: extremely Jackson to behave that way.
Speaker 3: The whole thing's totally crazy, and I don't know very many.
Speaker 3: I mean, then they're a good couple. So I don't
Speaker 3: know a lot of like solid couples that are like
Speaker 3: doing that well.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, like, if they wanted to have
Speaker 2: Suki get pregnant because they needed a way to put
Speaker 2: it in the story, vasectomies fail like they could have
Speaker 2: just rather than having Jackson like intentionally take an action
Speaker 2: that makes him into a complete jerk.
Speaker 1: All right, better, you really have problems as a man.
Speaker 1: If somebody who you're just friends with, whose female female
Speaker 1: friend says, you know what, I think you should get
Speaker 1: a vasectomy.
Speaker 3: Into a bar, that's not good because it's not good.
Speaker 3: It's fine anyway.
Speaker 2: So I hated everything about that storyline. I think I'm
Speaker 2: so out of order.
Speaker 1: You're out of order. I'm out of order. You're out
Speaker 1: of order.
Speaker 3: This whole pods haven't the amazing Lucy and Paris yet.
Speaker 2: Yet we're getting move this along, kids.
Speaker 1: Did Lucy ask Paris to get actomy?
Speaker 3: So Jackson goes and tells, I want to google good jokes.
Speaker 3: Let me see if I can find them.
Speaker 1: Listen in the hands of a professional comedy writer, I
Speaker 1: think my concept could elicit laughter.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Nothing turns me on like a guy shooting blanks.
Speaker 5: Did say snow seeds?
Speaker 1: The big the biggest insult I ever got from a
Speaker 1: woman was somebody who was who was a friend, told
Speaker 1: me I should get a sectomy.
Speaker 3: It's not good when it's not true. What does a
Speaker 3: Christmas tree and a man who's had a vaseect to
Speaker 3: me have in common? What is what a Christmas tree
Speaker 3: and a man who's had a to me haven't common?
Speaker 3: Get the bleep button ready, you might have to bleep me.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's uh Christmas tree.
Speaker 3: I don't know what ornamental balls?
Speaker 1: Something a ball?
Speaker 3: But hold on, let me see if I can find Oh.
Speaker 2: My gosh, this is this is taking a turn top
Speaker 2: ten things you don't want to hear during your vasectomy.
Speaker 3: It looks like we'll need to call the pediatrician in
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 1: I don't even understand that.
Speaker 2: So when like Jackson goes and tells Suki that she's pregnant,
Speaker 2: so I guess that's why Suki. They made Suki act
Speaker 2: so over the top. Was because somehow Jackson knows that
Speaker 2: she's pregnant, Like, how does Jackson know.
Speaker 3: Too? She's been acting so Perskin was clear, remember like
Speaker 3: saying it just like thats so they did. I did
Speaker 3: like the.
Speaker 6: Line where Laura was like, well, should we go tell her?
Speaker 3: I like her body?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then so she's understandably upset and she's like,
Speaker 2: you better take care of that before I get back,
Speaker 2: and they go they leave the house to go on
Speaker 2: a walk and then we go to back to the
Speaker 2: conference room. So after that insanity, we talk.
Speaker 3: About like the socks, the whole like playing with the
Speaker 3: kids stuff. That was awesome when.
Speaker 6: She handed her purse over, Yeah.
Speaker 3: To socks and then the house is a mess. Whatever.
Speaker 2: But I thought it was cute, like because Laura is
Speaker 2: she's on there, y, you know, she's she's like a
Speaker 2: she's like a five year old.
Speaker 3: And what's thatother one's name, Davy? What's the other one's name, Charlotte, Martha.
Speaker 3: We didn't we didn't see her.
Speaker 1: We have.
Speaker 3: That those plastic babies are expensive.
Speaker 1: Continue, yeah, me to you, that's sect to all of us.
Speaker 3: God, keep going. I just want to get to that Paris, Lucy.
Speaker 2: God, Okay, we're getting we're getting to the par scenes.
Speaker 1: It's like a song lyric, you know, that's to me.
Speaker 2: So now we're in we're back in the courtroom, and
Speaker 2: this is where the Anna's lawyer makes that rude comment
Speaker 2: about how she spent more time with the bus driver.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I had a really big issue with her
Speaker 6: lawyer because also if I like, I don't think her
Speaker 6: points were valid, She's like, well, how he wasn't in
Speaker 6: her life, and I want to be like, because he
Speaker 6: didn't know about her, like, it's not like a.
Speaker 3: Purpose a lawyer, which is why she lost.
Speaker 6: Well yeah, and then also it just made me really
Speaker 6: upset that there was always that comment about being working
Speaker 6: at a diner, because I I really don't understand how
Speaker 6: that is like such an issue. And he's like, what
Speaker 6: owned the diner? And I wanted to be like, who
Speaker 6: cares whether he owned it? He worked there? Like it
Speaker 6: were degrading, So what exactly it's so different? It was
Speaker 6: so degrading, and it just made me mad for like,
Speaker 6: I don't know, just I didn't like the way that
Speaker 6: that part was written.
Speaker 2: I was right, and I wanted Luke's lawyer to point
Speaker 2: out that Anna didn't have any problem leaving Ape Luke
Speaker 2: for weeks while she went to her mother's house.
Speaker 1: So there was a lot there was a lot of
Speaker 1: low hanging fruits that didn't get there. Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a great right.
Speaker 3: You can't you can't sum up a custody hearing in
Speaker 3: an eight minute Yeah, it's like, come on, no less.
Speaker 1: It was like a minute.
Speaker 6: Two minute scenes and only one cord hearing.
Speaker 3: It kind of.
Speaker 2: Stressed me out because I felt like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: they're really not making a good case for Luke here,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know that if this is going to
Speaker 2: go in his favor.
Speaker 3: I think that was the whole sweat we're all supposed
Speaker 3: to be like, it was the letter the letter saved
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: Right, So then we go to Sukie Lorelei or walking
Speaker 2: around town.
Speaker 3: This is cute. That was That was actually a very
Speaker 3: good scene, and you really I like them? Yeah right, yeah, laure.
Speaker 2: Reminding here all the good things about having a baby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was cute.
Speaker 1: How about this somebody walks up and says vest ectomy
Speaker 1: and you say, no thanks, I just had a borrow soap.
Speaker 3: Nope, nope, nope. But that was a cute scene. And
Speaker 3: also we kind of know that Laureli's got baby fever
Speaker 3: a little bit. That sort of came out in that scene, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she says the topic has come up and
Speaker 2: it might come up again, although.
Speaker 3: Her relationship's about to be blown.
Speaker 1: Would you ever name a racehorsectomy?
Speaker 3: There's something about this episode just remind me when we
Speaker 3: get to the movies, because there's something about that has
Speaker 3: me totally irritated about the movies. Just so you know, wait,
Speaker 3: based off what scene the baby stuff?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, got it.
Speaker 2: So now we're at the Yale dining hall, so Amy,
Speaker 2: I know you've been waiting for this moment.
Speaker 3: Oh this. I just really loved this scene. I thought
Speaker 3: it was very genuine. I thought Rory was good. I
Speaker 3: thought Paris was amazing. She really shows like what a
Speaker 3: true friend she is and took the bull by the horn.
Speaker 3: She's like, you know what, Rory, I'm gonna handle this.
Speaker 3: Lucy was very good, understated good. I just love that
Speaker 3: whole scene and we needed it. It was great.
Speaker 6: It also was like I just need this storyline to end,
Speaker 6: and I was like, thank you Paris for just walking
Speaker 6: over and making them talk to each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny. When Lucy says a Paris like.
Speaker 3: Paris.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was. It was a good scene. They
Speaker 2: kind of made up, and we know, we find out
Speaker 2: that Marty's like out of the picture now, which I
Speaker 2: think we were.
Speaker 3: That was kind of a rough twist, but you know, okay, fine, Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: It was it was probably her idea to break up.
Speaker 3: She seemed okay, and I actually agree with her assessment that, like,
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, Rory just kind of
Speaker 3: like went along with some dumb thing that Marty asked
Speaker 3: her to do.
Speaker 2: Right, It wasn't Rory's fault. Initially, it was all Marty,
Speaker 2: so okay. And I liked the little the little miniature
Speaker 2: versions of the charts that parents had made up and
Speaker 2: then they've got them all on the table.
Speaker 6: That was lunch.
Speaker 2: That was pretty funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that whole scene. I'm back on the computer.
Speaker 3: I am back, So yeah, great, good good. This whole
Speaker 3: episode's Good's apparently very long, but it's good.
Speaker 2: So then we go back to Lorelized house and this
Speaker 2: is where they're reading the letter, and so it's like
Speaker 2: cutting back and forth.
Speaker 5: I felt like I was watching a movie.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really good. How half of it was
Speaker 2: in lorealized voice and half of it.
Speaker 5: Was in the judge.
Speaker 3: The whole thing was great.
Speaker 6: I cried hearing the letter. They're all emotional.
Speaker 1: It was fast train.
Speaker 2: And then Scott with us there having his own podcast totally.
Speaker 3: Scott's a whole different show. It's called Jokes and Songs, The.
Speaker 1: Times of Gol.
Speaker 3: I'm going whole home. Yeah. But what did you think
Speaker 3: when you watched them read the letter. I know we
Speaker 3: kind of talked about your performance, but the letter part.
Speaker 1: I thought it was great editing, Uh, great, it was
Speaker 1: just great television. And it was moving. It was very moving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was what I think the audience was waiting
Speaker 1: for some kind of return to this Luke Laurel. I
Speaker 1: what do you call it? Consciousness? I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: back in the show. Yeah and yeah, So I thought
Speaker 1: it was a nice way to do it.
Speaker 3: It was, I agree, And we get that scene with
Speaker 3: the phone call in two scenes, you know, that really
Speaker 3: kind of brought them back together, even though she's so
Speaker 3: sort of devastated, right right, right.
Speaker 2: I thought David Suckcliffe did a good job too, because
Speaker 2: the letter kind of had a double meaning, right, It's
Speaker 2: not only Luke and Larelei, but it was also Chris
Speaker 2: and worry.
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I say that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally got that.
Speaker 5: When I was watching it, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: he is not only upset with himself right now, then
Speaker 5: he's also like, oh, my relationship is threatened, you know,
Speaker 5: like she.
Speaker 6: Said father figure. I was like, oh, that hit home.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he realized in that moment that he's the rebound
Speaker 5: and he will never be as good as Luke is. Like,
Speaker 5: he realized it right then and there that he lost.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, a crappy father on top of.
Speaker 1: That, right, so he was he wasn't running away from
Speaker 1: that relationship. He was running away in part from his
Speaker 1: past self.
Speaker 3: Yeah, his failure.
Speaker 1: He couldn't face it.
Speaker 5: I did think it was interesting that Luke and Chris
Speaker 5: can totally relate on the fact of not being there
Speaker 5: for their kids, their daughters lives for the first twelve years.
Speaker 3: One starting now and one through the fault of you know,
Speaker 3: Christopher sort of made that choice and Luke's choice was
Speaker 3: made for him.
Speaker 1: But you know what I thought was particularly interesting about
Speaker 1: the phone call between Luke and Lorelei was that it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a hint between the both of them in
Speaker 1: the acting that there was any hope for a relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like she played it straight, like she's devastated from the
Speaker 1: breakup of her marriage potentially right, she's so she's playing that.
Speaker 1: I'm playing the whole friendship thing in gratitude and thank
Speaker 1: you so much, and there's no hint of like heye
Speaker 1: alone or maybe I could take it to my vax sectimate.
Speaker 5: There was also a sadness from Loralai that she lost
Speaker 5: to you, O, I like.
Speaker 1: Did you did you see that in her performance?
Speaker 5: I did, But to your point, to your point, I
Speaker 5: never saw her. I didn't. It didn't read to me
Speaker 5: that she was like I need to get back together
Speaker 5: with It read to me that she's like I lost.
Speaker 1: But I think the scene plays better when they both
Speaker 1: realize that ship is sailed and they're okay with it.
Speaker 1: But then you say she has a little regret.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think she really.
Speaker 3: I mean I think she yeah, And when she wrote
Speaker 3: the letter, I think there's some yet, right, right, first
Speaker 3: of all, this all could have been solved.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's some hope in that letter too?
Speaker 1: Do you think that letter had some intent subcontent.
Speaker 3: I think there's hope in that phone call. I think
Speaker 3: there's hope in that phone call.
Speaker 1: The phone call, but not the letter.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I think there's hope in all of it.
Speaker 1: With these things, you think she couldn't possibly hold back
Speaker 1: in the letter. And that's the thing that Christopher sniffed
Speaker 1: out and it woke them up, and that Laura I
Speaker 1: didn't realize it.
Speaker 5: I think with Laura Li she didn't write the letter
Speaker 5: out of this man is the love of my life.
Speaker 5: She wrote that letter as this man is the most
Speaker 5: amazing man in the entire world. And I think the
Speaker 5: aftermath of it was her reflecting on the fact that
Speaker 5: she lost him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 6: And the letter was purely for April. I didn't I
Speaker 6: don't think.
Speaker 5: I rarely for Luke. I think it was purely for Luke.
Speaker 6: Well for that's what I mean, like for April, for Luke,
Speaker 6: like it's it was for him to get April like
Speaker 6: it was.
Speaker 5: It wasn't like to get him back.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: It's great, great sequence. It was just a great sequence. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I do find it interesting that even with Luke hearing
Speaker 5: it back, you you hear his his like happiness, but
Speaker 5: it was like there was no sadness in Luke versus
Speaker 5: you get the sadness from Laura Lai.
Speaker 3: And that was so true, Danielle. He's so thrilled and
Speaker 3: happy and like good with Laura l I. He's so
Speaker 3: good with it. He's so appreciative, but he's don't feel
Speaker 3: his pain or heartache, whereas hers You're like, oh, she's
Speaker 3: got a heartache on heartache on heartache.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, what a contrast. So good.
Speaker 5: It was so well done between the two of you.
Speaker 5: It was so good, literally so well.
Speaker 1: Done that that's just fun to do writing like that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's really fun to act that and see
Speaker 1: it it in and then you watch it it's like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, that was really effective. That was really great.
Speaker 6: Okay, And like whenever that music plays on Gilmore Girls,
Speaker 6: it just like tugs at my heart string, Like the
Speaker 6: tears are like like coming into my my tear ducks.
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, I love it.
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Speaker 2: We kind of skipped ahead a little bit. I want
Speaker 2: to discuss the scene where Laurel I comes home, the
Speaker 2: scene with Laurela and Christopher, so that was so unchanged.
Speaker 1: Now we talked about it a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think I still think Christopher over reacted by storming out,
Speaker 3: but I think Danielle and Susanna might be touching on
Speaker 3: like he just realized he's a failure.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean because he's he he specifically says
Speaker 2: that he he's I can't. I don't have the exact
Speaker 2: line in front of me, but he says something about
Speaker 2: I thought I could be your number two, but I can't.
Speaker 2: And he was just knew that he was the second
Speaker 2: choice and he thought he could be okay with that.
Speaker 2: And now he's realized.
Speaker 1: Because he tried so hard with the Paris and the
Speaker 1: money and the wedding and right, it's just as hen
Speaker 1: ever get he's just not measuring up to Luke.
Speaker 2: Right, he thought being rich exactly exactly, and now he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't be your rebound.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know he touched on this in the beginning,
Speaker 3: but it's like, bro, she started dating you the night
Speaker 3: she broke up with yeah, that that's probably gonna have problems.
Speaker 1: Funny thing about money. It doesn't it doesn't give character,
Speaker 1: but it does make you one sometimes, you know.
Speaker 5: I forgot to mention my red flag in the fact
Speaker 5: that there was there would never be a level anywhere
Speaker 5: in Lare lies like, no matter what it's in.
Speaker 6: Specifically in the drawer by her bed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he does not exist.
Speaker 2: So was that his that he like brought with him
Speaker 2: when he moved in. So maybe it was christ.
Speaker 5: It was loralized drawer because that's where she puts a
Speaker 5: lot of.
Speaker 3: Playing with the level with the dog, right, That's what
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, level with the dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Christopher was using it to uh put up
Speaker 1: the flat screen.
Speaker 2: Right, But he was looking for it, but he couldn't
Speaker 2: find it because Laurel I had taken it and was
Speaker 2: playing with it with the dog. So I think she
Speaker 2: just put it back in the drawer.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That was also a funny scene where she was talking
Speaker 2: about hypnotizing the dog and then it was like, so
Speaker 2: did you do and she's like, no, it's a dog.
Speaker 3: I just had the weirdest thought. Can anyone tell me
Speaker 3: if paul Anka and Einstein from back to the future.
Speaker 3: Are the same breed of dog, that's thank you, that's
Speaker 3: a question, thank you, but I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2: So well, we're looking that up. We have one one
Speaker 2: more scene at the apartment with Paris and Rory. They're
Speaker 2: gonna go trace letting, which sounds like fun. You're going
Speaker 2: to go steal some cafeteria trade.
Speaker 3: Scene again, really really cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Rory thanks Paris for the nice things
Speaker 2: she said, So I thought that was that was a
Speaker 2: nice touch for Rory to acknowledge that friendship gesture from Paris.
Speaker 2: And then it goes to the scene with Luke's phone call,
Speaker 2: which we just talked about, you know, she had when
Speaker 2: he mentioned he said I couldn't have done it without
Speaker 2: your letter. She kind of winces because now you know
Speaker 2: Christopher's gone, and.
Speaker 5: So they are the same dog amy sheepdogs sheep dogs.
Speaker 6: But it's it says that Paul Polish Lowland sheep dog
Speaker 6: and Einstein is a Catalan sheep dog.
Speaker 1: Because I was just going to say that.
Speaker 3: I was just so proud of myself because I almost
Speaker 3: called Paul Ainka Einstein and then I was like, wait
Speaker 3: a minute, are they the same dog? Okay? Thank you
Speaker 3: for that's wonderful.
Speaker 2: And then the final final scene is at Yale. They're
Speaker 2: in the classroom, Rory's looking, She's all smiling and proud
Speaker 2: of Richard.
Speaker 3: Painful, painful, the heart.
Speaker 2: Attack of the last thing we hear is someone called
Speaker 2: nine one one.
Speaker 3: That was so painful. That says it.
Speaker 6: I also like the way they did that, how it
Speaker 6: didn't show Richard like it showed him kind of following
Speaker 6: but falling. But the end scene is just Rory going
Speaker 6: out of frame. I think that was like really effective
Speaker 6: and like you just see her like call nine one
Speaker 6: one run off and then it ends right there. I
Speaker 6: think it was.
Speaker 3: Really corrected this episode. Again, was it Jamie.
Speaker 1: Back It was Jamie Babbitt, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, directing, really good direct Yeah.
Speaker 6: And that's why it made us want to keep what
Speaker 6: I don't know what I mean, Amy said she did
Speaker 6: like I wanted to just keep going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good episode.
Speaker 1: It was, it was it was all right, kids, So
Speaker 1: what do you think? What are we going to give it?
Speaker 6: Who?
Speaker 1: Uh, Tara, what are you going to write it? What's
Speaker 1: your measuring stick?
Speaker 6: I really like this episode. I feel like we're making
Speaker 6: a comeback. I give it nine muffin tops. Wow, was
Speaker 6: that yours? N Yelle?
Speaker 5: That was literally it's okay, eight point eight levels.
Speaker 3: Amy nine secret socks or whatever those things were, secret
Speaker 3: travel socks whatever, those were nine nine.
Speaker 2: For sure z that I'm taking a little bit off
Speaker 2: just because of the whole Jackson thing. I'm just not
Speaker 2: on board with that. But I'm going to give it
Speaker 2: eight point five muffin bottom pies, muffin so the boy.
Speaker 3: Nice Susanne, Nice, nice call there.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to give it. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. Sorry, I just I just had
Speaker 1: a shot of the oil of oregano. It's very powerful.
Speaker 3: What does that do? What does that do?
Speaker 1: That's some healthy, super healthy thing?
Speaker 3: Oh great, m hmm.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to wash it down. I'm going to give it.
Speaker 1: I think I'm kind of nine ish eight point nine ish,
Speaker 1: eight point eight ish, So I'll give it an eight
Speaker 1: point nine vest ectomies.
Speaker 6: We're making a comeback here.
Speaker 1: That's definitely uh rounding into form here season seven. Huh.
Speaker 6: So we've got twelve episodes in, We've got about ten
Speaker 6: ten more episodes to go, right, ten.
Speaker 5: More easy and then started this podcast yesterday.
Speaker 1: It was just like last week. We all got to
Speaker 1: know each other, all right. It's weird, so weird anyway,
Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap it up. What's your name again, I'm
Speaker 1: doctor Vinnie Bumbach.
Speaker 2: I have a couple.
Speaker 1: I was sure, go right ahead, I have to.
Speaker 2: Actually, both of them are lorealized. One was when she
Speaker 2: said which one of the bush daughters is Reggie? And
Speaker 2: then the other one was when she and Suki were
Speaker 2: walking around the town and she says, I don't think
Speaker 2: he wants his meat cut at all.
Speaker 3: That's just.
Speaker 1: Anybody else's favorite line.
Speaker 3: But this one that did make me giggle. There was
Speaker 3: good stuff in it.
Speaker 1: It was There was a lot. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of good giggles and some hearty laughs as well. So
Speaker 1: and man, I really needed that today anyway. Thank you, ladies.
Speaker 1: Uh Susanne French, Tera sud Daniel Roma, Amy Sugarman one
Speaker 1: hundred and seven degree Amy Sugarman Today, the boiling hot
Speaker 1: Amy Sugarman.
Speaker 3: Literally it's so true. I literally am fanning myself. But
Speaker 3: thank you.
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