WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Finding Trends

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to Cowboys Break presented by s WBC Mortgage Studio.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here Nick, Dave and me. Derek is nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>to be found right now. Boy, We're going to start

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<v Speaker 1>the show and see how he goes. No, he's busy

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<v Speaker 1>doing other important things as always. Um, but how are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys doing? I'm great, can y'all hear me? Yeah? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I my headphones are on the fritz. I'm just making sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm awesome, but as awesome as you could be.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, after spending a week in Hawaii and I

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<v Speaker 1>kept back here, relaxed, ready to go, ready to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for the draft, knock out this draft, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're at that point in the draft where it's just

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<v Speaker 1>especially on our staff, because we start this thing early.

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<v Speaker 1>We started it early, as we've ever done it in

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<v Speaker 1>like December in November, but um, you know you're at

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<v Speaker 1>the point where like it's still nothing happens other than

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a trade here there, or somebody has a bad

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<v Speaker 1>forty time or whatever that kind of lowers some stock

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<v Speaker 1>or surgery to a player, But I mean you still

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<v Speaker 1>like nothing has really happened. It's still like right here,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting so close, but we've we've like beaten this

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<v Speaker 1>thing to death here and it's like it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>do it and board. Yeah, that's I mean, having a

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<v Speaker 1>top ten pick is great, but there's really only so

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<v Speaker 1>many ways you can slice it before you're just repeating yourself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it gets annoying when it's like, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that nothing. Everything should be on the table,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like you just go in these waves where

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<v Speaker 1>are like, wow, what are we gonna talk about today?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like what if they trade Michael Gallop

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<v Speaker 1>and get a receiver. You know, let's let's put the

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<v Speaker 1>receivers in the mix now, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Just things like that, when I think we all know

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be certain er horn, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I think it's. That's what I think Sta Horner Pits,

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<v Speaker 1>I think those are really I think it'll be one

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<v Speaker 1>of those three players. I just don't see him even

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<v Speaker 1>getting anywhere close to ten. Neither do I. But you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see Ceede Lamb getting a seventeen either, so you

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<v Speaker 1>just can't can't take it off the table. But if

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<v Speaker 1>I had to bet today, I would put I would

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<v Speaker 1>feel very comfortable betting on one of those cornerbacks being

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<v Speaker 1>the pick. Yeah, I'd say fifty percent. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent for Pits. Sounds about right well. Stephen Jones

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<v Speaker 1>did have an interview with the Fan earlier. I was

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<v Speaker 1>it yesterday to the day, Yeah, earlier this week, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did talk about getting starting to get some calls

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<v Speaker 1>and people other teams that might be interested in making

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<v Speaker 1>a trade if their guy is still available up there.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's still that's already kind out on the table.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't necessarily say much about that whole possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not they would in fact take a trade

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<v Speaker 1>to move back or I mean, he can't really say

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<v Speaker 1>much about that. I think it's interesting that he said

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<v Speaker 1>that they've gotten some calls already, and he said he

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<v Speaker 1>expects it to heat up here over the next week,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, leading up to actual draft day, and there

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<v Speaker 1>have been reports, which I use reports like facetiously because

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<v Speaker 1>I think Ian Rappaport said the other day that Miami

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<v Speaker 1>is getting calls about trading out of number six and

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<v Speaker 1>the Panthers are getting calls about trading out of number eight.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, so basically Miami and Carolina want y'all

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, like they want people to know that those

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<v Speaker 1>picks are available to some degree. Maybe Stephen Jones does too, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if they feel good about their chances that one of

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<v Speaker 1>those cornerbacks falls a little ways, maybe you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you could trade back and get another pick out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not It's not the worst thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. You know, and teams, if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>say something like that, like if you say like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've gotten some calls, I just think maybe it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that they're going to trade, but they want you

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<v Speaker 1>to know that that they're open to it. I think, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the key is the quarterbacks. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>uh fields from from Ohio State, Um, maybe Trey Lance

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<v Speaker 1>Um and then Mac Jones, you know those guys. They

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys want four of those five for

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<v Speaker 1>the five quarterbacks to be gone, and I think they

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<v Speaker 1>would prefer one of them to be still there because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's gonna move somebody to trade for them if

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<v Speaker 1>they want to trade. I mean. An ideal situation though,

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<v Speaker 1>would be to have you know, four quarterbacks gone and

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<v Speaker 1>then just everyone loved the receivers, you know in pits

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then you're sitting there with like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're at ten and somebody wants that one of those

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks and both corners are still there. Then you fall

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<v Speaker 1>back to I say New England because New England. New

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<v Speaker 1>England's just the easiest one because it's there are only

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<v Speaker 1>five spots away and they need a quarterback. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we keep using them as an example, but it does

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<v Speaker 1>make sense. Yeah, I look at it. It was I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at at this magazine. Actually, if I can,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what camera will be on there, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at the magazine. I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I've got you could take certain at ten,

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<v Speaker 1>you could trade back ideally for Horn at fifteen. You

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<v Speaker 1>could trade back to twenty and maybe get Farley if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel good about it, or trade up for five

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<v Speaker 1>to get pits if you want to do that. So five, ten,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen to twenty. That's really what I look out of

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<v Speaker 1>these four guys, you know, and I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if Farley at twenty is a thing? Moving back

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<v Speaker 1>ten spots. That's next year's number one better be Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like that? Hell yeah, next year's one. Come on, Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>how much do you want your quarterback? Let's go give

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<v Speaker 1>me next year's one and probably like something this year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this year's three and next year's one. I'll let you

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<v Speaker 1>get up to ten. I'll I'm just fine. Like there,

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<v Speaker 1>there'll still be a cornerback there at twenty, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb Farley or Greg Newsome. I'd feel a lot better

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<v Speaker 1>about drafting one of these pass rushers at twenty than

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<v Speaker 1>I would at ten. Right, like a Phillips or the

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick next year. Absolutely, and like especially a

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick to a team that's that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>play a quarterback. Chicago sucks. I know that you pay

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<v Speaker 1>last year, but they're not good. Yeah, you want them

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<v Speaker 1>to go and struggle with their quarterback and turn and think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and that'll be a good pick for you,

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<v Speaker 1>so right now, nothing is out of the question. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a possibility to trade up, trade down, stay there, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Drevor Lawrence is out of the question. Well yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's about it. That's about it. That's all about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But another thing that we all kind of already knew,

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<v Speaker 1>and Stephen Jones did mention again was they are focused

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<v Speaker 1>in defensive players in this draft. That's their main focus.

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<v Speaker 1>But as always, if the right kind of guy kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lance there, then they're definitely more than open to

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<v Speaker 1>go for it and take the opportunity that would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any other name other than the tight end

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<v Speaker 1>that would kind of be attractive for the Cowboys at

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<v Speaker 1>this point? I mean, you have to mention the tackles

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<v Speaker 1>Rashaan Slater and Piney Sewell, and if an offensive player

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the Cowboys first pick, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it would be one of those three guys, Kyle Pitts

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<v Speaker 1>or one of the tackles. I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 1>justify a receiver unless you really are going to trade

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallup, which I don't see the point. And given

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<v Speaker 1>what they said about Lyaelle and Tyron, you think they

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<v Speaker 1>would be willing to take that kind of risk they

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<v Speaker 1>actually go for a tackle. I don't get the sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys, and I've been saying the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>is I think they feel a lot more confident about

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrn Smith and Lyle Collins than the average fan does.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they think they're going to be fine,

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<v Speaker 1>or at the very least they can get by with

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<v Speaker 1>the combination of guys that are already here, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if you draft a guy later on, Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get the sense that they think it's so dire that

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<v Speaker 1>they need to draft a guy at ten. And you

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<v Speaker 1>also got to remember those two guys you mentioned. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that if they were to draft them, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>just the best guy available. And then you get to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you get to March. I mean, you get

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<v Speaker 1>to a May June, and you're like, man, Tyrn and

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<v Speaker 1>Lyell look great. Well, one of these two is playing guard, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>playing left guard with Connor Williams spot probably and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Connor can play center, you know. I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're they have value. That's why you draft a

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<v Speaker 1>tackle at number ten is probably because they can play anywhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think I would think they could play inside

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<v Speaker 1>at guard for a little bit. So it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>you just would be wasting a pick this year. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to play somewhere. But I still think at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, I just think, yeah, I one

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<v Speaker 1>of those two cornerbacks is almost guaranteed to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's and I and the reason why I defer

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<v Speaker 1>to Pitts. And you can yell at me if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to, but I just I think he's that rare

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<v Speaker 1>of a talent, Like if you were trying to comp

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<v Speaker 1>him the like the comp for Kyle Pits, it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Johnson honestly like that, which that's insane, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can pass up on an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But that's why I don't think he'll be there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't really think it's an issue. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>could see somebody trying to trade into that pick to

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<v Speaker 1>get him, he goes in the top six picks, because

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<v Speaker 1>other teams are going to feel the same way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm Atlanta, I'm you know, I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get a quarterback. I got Matt Ryan for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And because I believe, honestly, if you

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<v Speaker 1>would have showed me this magazine last year. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even know, well these don't have quarterbacks, but

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even know who these quarterbacks are they they develop.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think Wilson be why you was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was a first round pick maybe, but

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<v Speaker 1>not number two overall. Lawrence was Fields had to have

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<v Speaker 1>another year in he excelled, and Lance you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he was kind of on he only played the

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<v Speaker 1>one game or so, but I mean mac Jones certainly

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<v Speaker 1>needed to elevate his So I just think every year

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a quarterback, but not every year

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a tight end like this guy. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just can't see him following past four

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<v Speaker 1>or five. Honestly. Yeah, I mean that's the and you

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<v Speaker 1>know this isn't Falcon's talk, but no, that isn't. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the age old talk of you know, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to reset your financial window? I mean, or do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to build around a new quarterback? Like how confident

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<v Speaker 1>are you that Matt Ryan can give you four or

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<v Speaker 1>five more years of high caliber play? Because if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he can, then you should probably draft a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's their problem to out, not mine. Well, but

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<v Speaker 1>at all dominantly, you know, effect it is just how many,

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<v Speaker 1>how many of these defensive studs are going to be there,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I really think the Cowboys will take

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<v Speaker 1>the first or second defensive player. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there'll be one till nine, right, maybe Detroit at

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<v Speaker 1>seven maybe, but yeah, I agree. I mean, let's if

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<v Speaker 1>the three best defensive players in this draft, or j. C. Horne,

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick's or Tan and Micah Parsons, two of those three

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<v Speaker 1>will be available or maybe all three. So and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I really think that they're gonna draft defense first,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it just it makes too much sense not to. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna find out soon enough. In about a week

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<v Speaker 1>the draft starts and we shall get to see what

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<v Speaker 1>actually happens on the first day of the NFL Draft.

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<v Speaker 1>My only hope, whether they draft a defensive player or

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive player whatever that they had to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the tenth overall pick, I just hope that with the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the draft that they are able to pick

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<v Speaker 1>the right defensive players to actually help this defense, because

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the list of previous draft and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>finish kind of what we started last week with Derek

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<v Speaker 1>talking about previous draft and the players where they were

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<v Speaker 1>selected and how they developed and whether it was a

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<v Speaker 1>bust or they were above average or any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some questionable choices there, So we'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>that in a bit, but before we move on to

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<v Speaker 1>that part, I did want to mention real quick, just

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<v Speaker 1>because it came out yesterday and knew it's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the news, but cornerback Rashard Robinson, he was suspended by

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL two games due to using um, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you call that? Informance enhancing And yeah, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>not everybody still understands all the rules that things have

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<v Speaker 1>changed in the NFL's you know, um policies there. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like you can just take whatever. So we

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<v Speaker 1>really don't know all the details. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's harder for guys to get a suspension, but if

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<v Speaker 1>they do, then obviously you kind of know where they

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<v Speaker 1>stand there. And I think I think there's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>why the NFL announces this right now because if you

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<v Speaker 1>wait longer, because they know that teams have to cut players,

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<v Speaker 1>and Richard Robinson, in my opinion, is a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>very easily could have been cut at some point. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I don't think they can really cut him

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<v Speaker 1>right now, because they could, but I mean, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>really supposed to cut guys if they've been suspended or

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<v Speaker 1>definitely in the program like this, So we know he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't necessarily a very impactful player for the cow Was

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. He kind of made his way

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<v Speaker 1>into the roster because of all the injuries and the

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<v Speaker 1>necessity necessity of just depth at the position. Looking at

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<v Speaker 1>what the Cowboys currently have, I mean, is this a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that they kind of do need to keep because

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<v Speaker 1>of death? I think he would have been released, Honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think after the draft, you you draft a corner,

0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.160
<v Speaker 1>you might draft two corners. Honestly, I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>you could see a fifth, sixth round pick, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get another corner, probably get a free agent corner. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's one of the players that's probably released. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they have like eighty something players on the roster. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta get rid of about ten at least. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel so guilty for saying this, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>been I've had to. I've been handed some big time

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<v Speaker 1>suspensions over my time covering this team, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory, Zeke Elliott. You're just like, how are they

0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna get by without this guy? And it's a nice

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<v Speaker 1>I feel guilty, but like it's a nice change of

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<v Speaker 1>pace where that email came down yesterday and I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Like definitely not a lock to make the roster, not

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<v Speaker 1>even a lock to make it the training camp, and

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<v Speaker 1>even even if you do want to keep them around,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a two game suspension, which is like nothing compared

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<v Speaker 1>to some of the four or six ten games suspensions

0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.600
<v Speaker 1>we've seen around here, which not trying to make light

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<v Speaker 1>of any of that, but like in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is a blip on the radar for

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<v Speaker 1>me because they're going to draft cornerbacks next week and

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't see this as a big deal and

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<v Speaker 1>I hesitate even going down this route, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>because we don't know much of anything. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>we have to just acknowledge the fact that Traymon Diggs's

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<v Speaker 1>name is in the news right now. Not sure all

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<v Speaker 1>the details of that, but you know, it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has to to to be, you know, leary of

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<v Speaker 1>and how how things develop there. Um, it doesn't change

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<v Speaker 1>their opinion on drafting cornerbacks. They're gonna draft one anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you just got to be prepared for everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and just hopefully for Trayvon, say, hopefully everything is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna, I think, just leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I'm not trying to imply, but we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know all the details. I just know that there's some

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<v Speaker 1>you know, his name has been thrown out there and

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<v Speaker 1>accused of some things. So we'll see how how things develop,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully the best for for Treyvon and everybody involved there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I haven't seen a credible news source touch

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<v Speaker 1>that to this point, so I'm not going to either, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that until otherwise notified. Yeah, so, but I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know people over on that side of the building

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<v Speaker 1>have kind of you know, they've heard it through. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on here? So that that's kind of where

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<v Speaker 1>we stand and not trying to ignore anything. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>it like Dave said, nothing really credible yet it could

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<v Speaker 1>be nothing. Hopefully it is. Well, um, hopefully it is nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And U there's no drama on the defensive side because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need any of that right now. The cow

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<v Speaker 1>do not need any of that. And I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>It always usually happens to be a defensive player for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason. But talking about another defensive player that's not

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cowboys but has been somewhat in the news

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<v Speaker 1>and around social media, and we were kind of wondering

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of happened as to why maybe the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>did not give Alden Smith another contract. And this didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really I mean this what happened was recently, so it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily have to do with the reason as to

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<v Speaker 1>why the Cowboys didn't offer him any other contract. But

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<v Speaker 1>just to mention it real quick, he's in some trouble

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Yeah, there's a there's a warrant out for

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<v Speaker 1>his arrest allegedly, that's what's been reported for an incident

0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that happened in New Orleans last weekend. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>already kind of involved with some some some things you know,

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<v Speaker 1>around the NFL kind of trying to see and I

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<v Speaker 1>even said this, I guess a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>that there's been talk that you know, he might be

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<v Speaker 1>facing a suspension, but again, don't know all the details

0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that the Cowboys really had no serious interest in bringing

0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:11.960
<v Speaker 1>him back. I don't think that was ever a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle is the only team really that's ever showed any

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<v Speaker 1>interest in them. They wanted to trade for him in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the season. The Cowboys didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>In hindsight, they probably should have. But you know, I mean, Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>if we ever did we ever get a report on

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<v Speaker 1>what the compensation would have been, because somebody just said

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<v Speaker 1>they should have taken their fifth round pick. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if that's even a thing, if

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<v Speaker 1>they just and that's like, I mean, if if Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>was offering a Day two pick, then they probably should

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<v Speaker 1>have done it. But I've seen I've seen people kill

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys for not doing that trade. And if all

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<v Speaker 1>they were getting was a sixth round pick, I'd have

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<v Speaker 1>rather had Alden Smith, who was one of their better

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<v Speaker 1>pass rushers and who actually seemed like he gave a

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<v Speaker 1>damn like at least from my outsider's perspective. I never Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the funny thing. I got a few calls when,

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<v Speaker 1>like just radio interviews and stuff like that, when Alden

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<v Speaker 1>signed in Seattle, people asking me, They're like, well, what's

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<v Speaker 1>he like. I'm like, I have no idea. I covered

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<v Speaker 1>the season during a pandemic. I never met the man.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to him a couple of times on Zoomah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's tricky. But from my perspective, basically sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>my couch like everybody else, like, it seemed like he cared,

0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and so I was like, as bad as his defense was,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have rather had him out there trying than

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<v Speaker 1>an extra sixth round pick. Like I don't. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to kill the Cowboys for not doing that. Dual

0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.920
<v Speaker 1>quarterback pressures is such a big stat I mean matters.

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<v Speaker 1>It affects the game, not just sacks. I mean the

0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.600
<v Speaker 1>pressures are a big deal. And d Law I think

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<v Speaker 1>led the team with forty last year and Aldon Smith

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<v Speaker 1>had thirty eight. I mean, so he's he's getting there.

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<v Speaker 1>He was getting there. But I still think there was

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<v Speaker 1>a reason why the Cowboys decided not at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>They you gotta remember Seattle because he had three sacks

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<v Speaker 1>against Seattle. So the Seahawks were like, well, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. But I think, you know, the Cowboys are like, well,

0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so far, so good. He's coming off of

0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.479
<v Speaker 1>five or absence, and this is what this is. One

0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.679
<v Speaker 1>you know year in the pandemic if we can get him,

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<v Speaker 1>keep him going. But I think between that happened the

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<v Speaker 1>trade deadline and the end of the season and it

0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.480
<v Speaker 1>just didn't seem to get that much better. And who

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<v Speaker 1>knows what they were asking for, but it just it

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.440
<v Speaker 1>just didn't work out to bring him back. Just one

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<v Speaker 1>of those cases that's just unfortunate, because once again, when

0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.360
<v Speaker 1>he got here, everyone was talking about him and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how impressive it was him coming back from not

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<v Speaker 1>playing for like five years in the NFL to playing

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<v Speaker 1>the way that he was playing at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. So just another unfortunate case that did not

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<v Speaker 1>work out. Let's also remember too that one of the

0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.960
<v Speaker 1>reasons his production dropped, it's because Randy Gregory returned back.

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<v Speaker 1>He came back off the suspension and he was playing better,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they just have more hope for what

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<v Speaker 1>he could do. All right, Well, let's take our first break.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back, we're gonna get back into the

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<v Speaker 1>previous draft and players that were picked at certain spots

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<v Speaker 1>round pick right, or you can just say I'm taking

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<v Speaker 1>all ten of these guys and put them on my

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<v Speaker 1>list and if if I get some points I'll get

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:55.959
<v Speaker 1>I'll get some points out of it. I'm gonna get

0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 1>something right. So it'll be fun to do that. They

0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:00.399
<v Speaker 1>did it last year with some season ticket holders and

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 1>it went really well. So now they're open it up

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:05.159
<v Speaker 1>to everyone. So Draft Pick Challenge. Can we do it?

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.159
<v Speaker 1>I think so? I mean, you can do it, but

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Journey half season tickets because you're going to be at

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the game. So I don't know if you'd you'd be eligible,

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you could definitely do it. In fact, we should,

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:20.159
<v Speaker 1>we should play along. All right, Well, last week we

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 1>did not get that fire. We just got through the

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.679
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen draft. We went through those picks and then

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 1>we started the twenty seventeen draft and just got to

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:32.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about Taco Charlton. Other than that, we didn't get

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:34.720
<v Speaker 1>that much further down. So let's start off with the

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:39.560
<v Speaker 1>second round pick, which was ch w Blouisier and whether

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:42.680
<v Speaker 1>or not we didn't talk about him last week. Right now, Okay,

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 1>did he exceed met or was below expectations? That's really

0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and that a bunch of conversations happened about that when

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 1>he left for Cincinnati. I think it's I think it's

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 1>fair to say he didn't meet them, But I also

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:03.240
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's harsh to say that he was like

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:05.360
<v Speaker 1>a bust of a pick, you know, like he's right

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>there where he started for four years. Um, you know,

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>he had some injury issues. I think he was fine.

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, people give him a hard time. It seemed

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.120
<v Speaker 1>like he got picked on at times, but his coverage

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 1>was he you know what, what was it like almost

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Spencer's He's almost almost almost a woozier because he

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:28.160
<v Speaker 1>was a fraction of a fingertip away from batting down

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:33.120
<v Speaker 1>so many balls that were eventually completed. Um, I feel

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>mean killing the guy, but I think probably just just

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>below the three levels that we put on here right me,

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 1>expectations above and below. There's two more extremes. One is

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>phenomenal pick and then yeah, and so he's he's he

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>was below expectations because you drafted the guy in the

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 1>second round. Um, you think he's going to be here

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and have a chance to maybe you know, make make

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>make a Pro Bowl maybe you know. And he you know,

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>he plays four years, played out his contract and then

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>he went to another team. That he's a pick. You

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.239
<v Speaker 1>expect more than that. But he wasn't a bust. I mean,

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>he played, and he is a pick. He's not a

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.200
<v Speaker 1>great pick, he's not a bad pick. He's just he's

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a big He was a pick. And then another guy

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.679
<v Speaker 1>that tends to be talked about when you mentioned Cheeto

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>is Jordan Lewis because he was picked in the third

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>round and he's also a player that plays the same position.

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think about him? Well, his situation

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 1>is a little different too because of how of what

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>happened when they drafted him. You gotta remember and it

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 1>feels like forever ago. But when they drafted him, you know,

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>he had some legal issues still pending, and the Cowboys

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 1>did their homework on him and said, we feel confident

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 1>that whatever he's being accused of, it's gonna his name

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>will be cleared. We love the kind of guy that

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 1>he is, and they took a chance on him, and

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>they were right. They were right on him, and he's

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 1>one of I mean, you ask anybody that covers the

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys who their favorite players are. Jordan Lewis is gonna

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 1>be on everyone's He's just awesome. But but he makes

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:05.119
<v Speaker 1>plays too. So to me, he exceeded expectations because when

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.639
<v Speaker 1>when he drafted him, you're like, I just hope he

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:09.200
<v Speaker 1>gets on the field. I hope you can do. So

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.439
<v Speaker 1>he signed a second contract. He's considered one of their

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>better playmakers. So in my opinion, I think he has

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>actually exceeded the expectations because they were a little bit

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.639
<v Speaker 1>different coming in. It's tricky and I again going back

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>to the Cheetoh thing. I had a had a I'm

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>not gonna call it an argument, but a healthy debate

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 1>with Marcus Moser, who does a really good job covering

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the draft and the team. And you know, I've I've

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 1>said this a million times, like top one hundred picked,

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the expectations are a certain level, and like you look

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>at Jordan Lewis and you're like, twenty six starts, twenty

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>six starts in four seasons, Like, my expectations are little

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>bit higher. But having said that, and the reason I

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 1>brought this up is, you know, we were arguing about

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Cheeto and he showed me. He was like, here are

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>all of the cornerbacks drafted in the second round over

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the last twenty years, and this is what they did.

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 1>And Cheetos actually like on the high end of what

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 1>that was. Because the learning curve for cornerback is so tough,

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and so maybe maybe I should give these guys a

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 1>little bit of grace. But at the same then I

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>look at, uh, oh, absolutely, and this is why this

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:14.479
<v Speaker 1>is why we're doing this, and not to cut you up,

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>but why we're doing this. It's ought to take us

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>back to this trapp And so if that's the case.

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>If you're telling me he was one of the better

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 1>second round picks, you better get your cornerback. I had not.

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I had a long argument and um, I think we're

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>putting it out today. We did a big segment about

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>cornerback with Kyle Yeoman's and Danny Serek and a long argument,

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>building the building the board, and he was, um, he

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, well they got Treyvon Diggs in the second

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>round last year. I was like, look, we all feel

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>good about what Treyvon Diggs did on the field, but

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 1>he got picked on. You're like, there's a certain I mean,

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>if you want, if you want to upgrade the position,

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you better be drafting in the top ten. Like that's

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>where the bad asses are. You know, you know, I know,

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>you know there's a there's a success story, there's a

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Richard Sherman everywhere for every position. But it ain't likely.

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>So what I'm trying to say is it's easy for

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:04.160
<v Speaker 1>me to say, like Jordan Lewis didn't meet the expectations,

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>but maybe that's about what a third round cornerback is

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>capable of. As far as Jordan Lewis, I mean, would

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 1>you say it was more on him whether because of

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>his talent or more on the coaching and what they

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>were looking for, specifically cornerbacks, I mean, which hurt him.

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he didn't get much of an opportunity both.

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>But that's annoying because if you I mean you drafted

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>him in the top one hundred, and I know, you know,

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Chris Rushard came in, but like the defensive coordinator was

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the same, Like Rod Marinelli, I assume was on board

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>with that pick. Jason Garrett was on board with it.

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's annoying to think that they were like, we

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>like him enough to use a third round pick on him,

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>and then as soon as he got here, they were like,

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're too short or whatever. The problem was intrink.

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, like you knew what you were getting

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>and you were okay with it on draft day and

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>then and that's and that's one of the reasons why

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the start's number can be a little bit misleading,

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>because he does he has a niche position. I mean,

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>he's a he's a slot guy. Not everybody, not every

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>corner can play the slot. So he does that. And

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>so sometimes you don't start, sometimes you do. You come

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>in on Nickel depends on how they start the game.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>You don't technically get to start. But I think he's

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>been for the most part, he has been a regular contributor.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>There was one year he wasn't getting a lot of

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>playing time, but for the most part he's been there.

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Jordan and Cheeto are very very

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>similar in the sense of these were not bad picks,

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>but you probably didn't meet the level of hype quite

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 1>quite enough. Well here's a bad one for me. Fourth

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>round pig Okay, oh wait, Ryan Switzer he was actually yeah,

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't the fourth round. Um, well, I was never

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>a fan, but that's just there's yeah, there's a he's okay.

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think the what we don't have here

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if you know this what they

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>get for him, because they did trade him. I believe

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>that was the jihad Ward trade, right, didn't they go

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>player for player and get jihad Ward out of Oakland? Then?

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>So much for that. I was about to just say,

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>what do they get? You know, sometimes you get something

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and it turns into don't remember think that they traded

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>They traded a sixth for Tavon to bring Tavon here

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and then I believe because because Oakland, it was Oakland

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>at the time. They sent Ward here for Switzer, and

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Ward was a guy that Marinelli. Rod Marinelli just did

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever the hell he wanted to the whole time he

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>was here. Like he liked Ward in the draft cycle

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>that he came out. I remember, I think he was

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>a Senior Bowl guy that you're the Cowboys coach the

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl. So they sent Switzer away for Jihad Ward,

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>who you know, didn't do much here. But I found

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 1>this out the other day too, doing some we're doing

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:45.239
<v Speaker 1>some documentary on some draft day stories, and you can

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>say that about Rod Marinelli did what I wanted. Uh,

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>he did it for the better the betterment of the

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>team too, because a lot of the guys, the defensive coordinators,

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.959
<v Speaker 1>all coaches are selfish. They want as many toys as

0:30:56.000 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>they can have. Marinelli cut the tie between Leean Ramsey

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and Zeke and said, listen, they're both great. You get

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>me a running back that can control the game with

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>this offensive line will be fine on defense. Not a

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator will say that when they have a really

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>studded cornerback you know over there in Ramsey who's been

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>everything as advertised if not better. So. Um, but but

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>to say all that about flip side, I mean you're yes,

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I get you, but and that you're just gonna go

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>down a wormhole. But you know you could have Jalen

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Ramsey and Derrick Henry here. I mean in an alternate reality,

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>just saying, but you could play that game forever. Yeah,

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>of course that's what makes the draft so fun. Yeah, um,

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 1>it was okay, he was okay. I think I've put

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>him as a pick. He returned to punt for a

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>touchdown head and had a lot of guys doing that. Yeah,

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>it's okay. That's fumbled a punt in a game against

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the Rams that could have probably lost the game for him,

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and it definitely played a role. It's hard to he

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>was here for a year. It seemed like his arrow

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>was pointing up when they traded him. I think I'll

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>just admit my human bias. I don't know if you like,

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>he had a whole thing with his son. His son

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>was really sick here in the last like six weeks.

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like he's okay, But I don't. I can't. I'm

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>not gonna sit here and dog a guy who is

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>here for a year I don't know. Here's another thing

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>about Switzer. Two y'all are making me feel bad. I mean,

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you got to remember how many guys that look like

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>him do you need on your team? I mean not

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>some some teams will say zero. You definitely don't need two.

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>And the head easily Beasley and it's hard for him

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>to do. I mean, you know that, that's why they

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>traded him. Um, in hindsight, if you don't have Beasley,

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you know you can maybe have a role. He's bounced

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>around a little bit, played with the Steelers, played with

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders, but he's not in league, is that right.

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I think he's with the Browns right now. Good? Yeah, yeah,

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? Then? Not great? Not bad? All right?

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Savior Woods. Sixth round. He exceeded expectations for me

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>because he started games and and he did you know,

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>he did stuck around, stuck around when we got to

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the point where he was a starter. Now, his expectations

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 1>were different, and he went below expectation for what I

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>thought he would be last year. Definitely, if you're going

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>to go into a trade, a draft a night and

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to take a safety in the second

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>round because you have Xavier Woods and that guy's starting

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>and maybe has a super Bowl ring in one Thornhill

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>because of Xavier Woods. Then yeah, that's that's that's bad.

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>But as far as the overall pick, you have to

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>say he exceeded overall. That's a great pick. Yeah. If

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you get a guy in the sixth round who's capable

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>of starting four years for you, that's good drafting. Now,

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think everybody was ready for that experiment

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>to end, and I think he lost most people with

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>his comments after the Browns game. It is what it is.

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Um certain, Like I think it was a good decision

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>to let him leave, and but that you know, there's

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not always going to be guys that you invest

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>in and guys that bust. Like you know, you drafted

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>him on day three, you got four years, it starts

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>out of him. That's good roster building. It's a good pick.

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>And if I'm not, I'm mistaken. I mean, typically you

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>don't expect the sixth round bag to be a harder, right,

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>six round picks aren't locks to make the team, Like, yeah,

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 1>once first through first through fourth, I expect you to

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>make the team. Fifth round still probably expect you to

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>make the team sixth and beyond. If you're even on

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 1>the roster, that's that's good. You did a good so. Yeah,

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to play, contribute and start for that many years as

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>a sixth round pick is very good. And when you

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>just look at six and seven together, just kind of

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.879
<v Speaker 1>throw it out there together, because at that point it's

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 1>just crapshoot. If you go back and look at these drafts,

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 1>they're they're getting one. They're getting one a year. That's

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>like wow. I mean it's like throwing stuff at the

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 1>wall and see that Anthony Brown stuck. U Xavier Wood stuck.

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Noah Brown and he stuck. I mean he's not great,

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>but I mean he's still here. Cedric Wilson. I'm skipping

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 1>around the draft, Cedric Wilson, Donovan Wilson, um, you know,

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>surrounded by all these other guys that aren't really here anymore.

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Last year, they didn't have a sixth round pick last

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>year to new team. He started a game. But but

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that they really have anything that has

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>stood out this last year. But every year they're getting

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 1>like one guy at the end of the draft that's

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>really a really, really good pick. So that was Xavier

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Woods was that pick. Yeah, well, I think the rest

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 1>on the list we can kind of knocked out, knock

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>out pretty quickly. We have requests. Why which was a

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>sixth round er? Two, I don't think he made the team. Nope.

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>He kicked around on the practice squad for a minute,

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think he was ever on the fifty three.

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Joey Ivy and Jordan Carroll I don't think made it

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>out of their first training camp and then Nope. I

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>love Noah Brown. I don't care what anybody says. Whatever.

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 1>You can hate him all you want. He just keeps

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.399
<v Speaker 1>finding ways to stick around. He's just one of those

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that you're always kind of hoping for more and you

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of see it there and he just never gets there.

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I get maybe that's maybe that's the problem, is

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not hoping for more from a seventh round pick,

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>especially if a Marie Cooper and Ceedee Lammer on the

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>depth chart, Like what do you want him to do?

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he has a very niche role. I do

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.800
<v Speaker 1>like it seems like he's expanded on it. It was

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>very frustrating at the beginning of his career when he

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>it was like Jason Garrett was signaling the other sideline

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna run the ball Noah Browns in the game, right,

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>that was really annoying. But that's not Noah Browns fault.

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>They changed that last year when he got every target.

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Remember that one game where it was like, oh my god,

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 1>stop throwing the ball to Noah brown Like, what's did

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>he sign a contract extension we didn't even hear about. Yeah,

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>there were a couple of games where people were just

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>frantically tweeting us, like the CD hurt where CD it's like, no, no,

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 1>just they decided to roll with Noah here in the

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter, not really sure why working that's the thing.

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>It was like six targets and one reception like that, Yeah,

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that is like the worst ratio. I still don't I

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>don't view this as Noah Browns fault. Like if they like,

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna be like no coach, I think CD

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 1>should go in. You're gonna go in the game. So yeah,

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I think saying it doesn't happen a lot.

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:05.879
<v Speaker 1>What just where someone says no, I don't, I don't

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>really want it, you know not. But at the end

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 1>of Hoosiers, you've probably never seen it I haven't, but

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm familiar with what you're talking about. Yeah, professional athletes

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>don't say nah, somebody else can have that awesome opportunity.

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. So it's not Noah browns me

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>as a decoy and then he'll take the last shot.

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy that he's here. Well, he has the body

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 1>type that it just I don't know. To me, that's

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 1>how I see it. When I see his body, I

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>expect more because of certain players that his body reminds

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>me of that have given you more. So I think

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>that's that's been the problem for me, is because of

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>his physique. I'm kind of expecting more, but I'm not

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.839
<v Speaker 1>getting it now because he looks like Des Bryant. Yeah,

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't play like that Bryant did. There were

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>many times where I got confused, Well you started playing

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 1>them like Brown. I would forget from our from our

0:37:55.360 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you know space needless press box spot, I mean not

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that high, but it's we're up there. You have to

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.479
<v Speaker 1>find out what is who's got blue socks on? Who's

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>got the shoes on? I mean, because there's many times

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>for like oh go Noah, it's like that's dead. Yeah. Sorry, Yeah,

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.760
<v Speaker 1>that's true, and that's not his fault. All right, before

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 1>we take our final break, if you had to rate

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the twenty seventeen draft, how would you rate that overall?

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Just like the no, well it's bad, Well it's bad.

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:27.879
<v Speaker 1>It's bad because it's not you don't divide it by

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 1>eight nine picks. Here, it's like, yeah, the first pick

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 1>takes off like fifty percent of it, and then after that,

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:36.919
<v Speaker 1>and so the fact that one guy is still here

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's Jordan Lewis and he's maybe he's probably not

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:41.959
<v Speaker 1>even gonna start. He might be your technically two because

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Noah too. But yeah, I'm not bad, Yeah I'm sorry.

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that, yeah, you don't really I don't

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>think about it. You don't really have a clear cut

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>starter out of this group in your first round pick.

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>You didn't even want him on the team you wanted

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>he didn't even want him to see if he can develop.

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 1>You just said we're done with you. Bad draft. Yeah,

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 1>that is a bad draft. All right, Well, let's take

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>our final break and when we come back, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>Glad to be back where we could do stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>that again. The draft will be here, like you'll be here,

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<v Speaker 1>actually here. What are you gonna do on draft Day?

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<v Speaker 1>You can do anything fun. I haven't. I'm waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>the email telling me what I'm doing on Draft Day.

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 1>But I assume I'll be here right there, probably somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in this studio with a number of other people. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who or how many. I'm sure all will be

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:58.319
<v Speaker 1>revealed within the next week. I hope. Yeah. Just good

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:00.359
<v Speaker 1>to be back and it isn't Yeah, I mean, it'll

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 1>be fun. It'll be fun to be able to do

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>it the way we usually do it right. Well. No,

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 1>last year, despite the challenges, I thought he went pretty well.

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.760
<v Speaker 1>He was pretty successful. I know people give us grief

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>about the zoom connection and everything, but we used We

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<v Speaker 1>used one oh five three is like big boy equipment

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 1>for that and broadcast. Broadcasting from my couch was not

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>my least favorite thing. When when it's all said done

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 1>for me whenever ever long I'm here and you say,

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>give me some draft day memories for you I'll be

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>like twenty twenty, I was. I did a call with

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Jamie Fox and DeMarcus Ware, but Jamie Fox and they

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>waited for three hours to finally go to me, and

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 1>they did on when it was time to pick. And

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 1>so Jamie Fox is like, Nick, who you think we're taking?

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you know, I mean, I don't know Willie Beamon.

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I mean, I don't know how you

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 1>could not take CD Lamb. You know he's right there.

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know this other defensive gay, but you gotta

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>take CD if he's still there. And so Jamie was like,

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, I forgot how it all win. I haven't

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 1>seen it again. But he was just like, you called it.

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 1>You called it. So you know, I don't even know

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>how I wrote my stories because I think I broke

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 1>my arm patting myself on the back after that. So

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>m C. The CD pick and the Great Manzille Martin

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>debate of twenty fourteen or probably stand out in my mind. Yeah,

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.879
<v Speaker 1>all right, well let's getting to twenty eighteen and hope

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>that this was better than twenty seventeen. So first round

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>pick late In Vanderesh, that one's stuff. It is, I

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 1>mean it's below, it's below expectations. I think he's met

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>For me, he's met expectations because on Draft Day, you

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 1>said he'll make the Pro Bowl. He'll make the Pro

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Bowl next year. Right, there's a rookie. Yeah, all Pro.

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Actually yeah, all Pro is a rookie. But see, so

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 1>that that puts you here. Now he's been knocked down

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:53.879
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But I don't I haven't seen it since.

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Though I haven't. I get he showed glimpses of it

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 1>against Philly this past year, Like he played like a

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 1>badass in Philly, Like he came back and you know,

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>he forced a fumble. I think he had a sack. Uh,

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>But he was so good in twenty eighteen. I guess

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's like a victim of your own success when

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>you're so good so quickly. I guess you could say

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.439
<v Speaker 1>he's met expectations because he's uh, he's made a Pro Bowl.

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>He's made one Pro Bowl in three years. Doesn't matter

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>when you expect it to happen. It just did ten

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and the injuries necessarily not his fault, you know, like

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.320
<v Speaker 1>it was, but it was said coming in that you

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 1>know that was one of the reasons, you know, he

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 1>don't they knew about it. He played eighteen games as

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>a rookie if you count the playoffs, and he has

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>played nineteen in the two years since. And I understand

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 1>that that's not his It's not his fault. Nobody wants

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to get hurt. I'm like, you know, go Shaun Lee understands.

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>He actually said, you know, Layton said some great stuff

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>last season about how Sean Lee gave him some great

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>perspective about you know, don't let your frustration about not

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:02.720
<v Speaker 1>being available get in the way of coming back stronger

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 1>and like approaching it the right way, because obvious, I mean,

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Layton reminds obvious for a lot of reasons. He reminds

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 1>me of Sean Lee. But he has that, like you

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 1>can tell, he's got that desire to be good to

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the point where like if he's not great, he's he's

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 1>pissed off about it. Like he didn't he didn't want

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk about his injury last year at training camp

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>because you could tell how aggravated he was that that

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:24.279
<v Speaker 1>it was even a topic of conversation. So you know,

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I empathize with him. But yeah, nineteen games in two years,

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they got to decide what to do

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:33.320
<v Speaker 1>with his fifth year option in a couple of weeks,

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and if they draft a linebacker in this draft, I

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>won't be surprised if they don't pick it up, honestly.

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.920
<v Speaker 1>And if you're not, if you're not going to pick

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 1>up the fifth year option of your first round pick,

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>then I don't think you've met the expectations. So that'll

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 1>be the barometer what they do in the next couple

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>of weeks. But I think that's just kind of how

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel right now. All right, second round, Connor Williams met,

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 1>He's met expectations met, And I think i'd also think,

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it's probably fair to say Connor

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 1>has been the weak point of the offensive line for

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>most of his career here, but he also plays with

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 1>two potential Hall of famers and Travis Frederick was on

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Fame trajectory before he retired before he

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 1>got hurt or sick, and Lyle Collins. When he's been healthy,

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 1>he's been very good. So does that mean Connor Williams

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>is bad or he's just playing with a bunch of

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>really great player doesn't because I'll take you back thirteen

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>years when the offensive line was about the same three

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Pro bowlers. Right tackle that was solid, and then left

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 1>guard that was you know, he was just pretty good.

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Cozar. He was a pretty good player, but he

0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>was just with three Pro bowlers and another pretty good

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 1>right tackle. It's very similar here. You know, if Connor

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Williams is the worst member of your offensive line when

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 1>it's completely healthy, then your offensive line is probably good.

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.439
<v Speaker 1>I still think he would be a better tackle. I'd

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 1>be interested to see it. I think he'd be a

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>better tackle. I'd ever got to see it here at

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 1>this point, I think you're probably right. But I mean,

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.439
<v Speaker 1>but then again, I mean, I don't think he would

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:06.280
<v Speaker 1>have been a better tackle than the two that are starting.

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 1>So No, So that's and that it kind of goes

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:11.240
<v Speaker 1>back to what you said about Rashaan Slater and Piney

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Sewell is you're going to draft a guy what was

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Connor like fifty first overall again something, You're gonna draft

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>him that high and just have him be your swing

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 1>tackle and if all goes well, he's not going to

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 1>play like I don't know if that's a good idea. No,

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>So's he's been good. He in credit to him too

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>for what he did last year. I mean he was.

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, not going to compare him to Connor Connor Williams.

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 1>How we're going to say the same game, not going

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 1>to compare him to Sack Martin. Yeah, but based on

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he was available all year except for

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 1>a quick moment there where he got a little bit injured.

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>But he was consistent last year and that's the one

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 1>thing that you needed the most. From what we saw,

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.719
<v Speaker 1>he missed one snap in a year where everybody else

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:57.399
<v Speaker 1>was just beat to hell coming on. Somehow he was, Yeah,

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 1>somehow he was able to stay healthy. And he's another

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>guy the huss suffer and dealt with other injuries in

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the passes. Met Yeah, met expectations all right. Third round

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallas exceeded expectations. How much easily to say there

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>everyone knows him and how well he's done all right?

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Fourth round, Dorn's armstrong. See this this is where it

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:24.719
<v Speaker 1>gets tricky. See I say, I say uh, Met, I

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:28.400
<v Speaker 1>say met. I was about to say exceeded. And then

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>when I think, well, I should think of Dak but

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:34.360
<v Speaker 1>that is like such a such an app that's ridiculous.

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 1>But no, you know what I when I think of

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.759
<v Speaker 1>like a good or what a great fourth round pick

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:42.439
<v Speaker 1>is capable of. I always think of Anthony Hitchins. Yeah,

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 1>like if you're capable of finding that with pick like

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 1>one twenty six, then you know, I don't think as

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 1>a fourth round pick. Again, like teams cut fourth round

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:53.879
<v Speaker 1>picks all the time, Like you don't see it often

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 1>as a rookie, but like in your second year and

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:57.840
<v Speaker 1>definitely in your third year, if you're not cutting it,

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:01.359
<v Speaker 1>you're not guaranteed to be here. So okay for him

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to hang around for three years and you know, not

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 1>be amazing, but be a valuable role player. That's why

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I say below expectations because just like we said about

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams, well he didn't he didn't play tackle or whatever. Well,

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 1>of course not. And look who's here. But since Dorence

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong has been here, this team's went out and traded

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:23.280
<v Speaker 1>for Robert Quinny. They had to go get Alden Smith,

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:26.839
<v Speaker 1>and those guys were playing and playing over him. They

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, they they have obviously you know, they resigned

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>d Law and then they got Randy Gregory in here.

0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:34.359
<v Speaker 1>He I mean, they it's been a position where they've

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>been trying to turn over Rocks here to try to

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.800
<v Speaker 1>help this thing. So he's a fourth round pick, you

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:43.400
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't expect them to have to try to do all this.

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:45.600
<v Speaker 1>You would hope that he'd be a guy in the

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.279
<v Speaker 1>mix and not somebody. Well, he's not the answer. So

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that's why I kind of say below. His stats have

0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 1>been great, but you know he's he's a he's a

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:56.359
<v Speaker 1>special team's kind of glue guy. You just think maybe

0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more for a fourth round hire expected

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 1>as for him, because since the moment he got here,

0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus Lawrence, for whatever the reason, took him under his wing. Yeah,

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:10.280
<v Speaker 1>And I would see that, and he would talk about

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:12.279
<v Speaker 1>him and he would be kind of his guy. And

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought, well, if if the law is taking you

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 1>under his wing, is because he must see something in you.

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 1>But then it just again another guy that necessarily didn't

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:25.239
<v Speaker 1>necessarily I guess I great. I kind of said this

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 1>about cornerbacks too, but edge rushers, and again, there's a

0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:31.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a there's an exception for every position. Jared Allen

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:33.319
<v Speaker 1>is a likely Hall of Famer. He was a fourth

0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:37.319
<v Speaker 1>round pick, but like buy and large, edge rushers are

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>drafted super duper high, like a fourth round edge rushers

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:43.720
<v Speaker 1>very rarely turn into those types of players. So maybe

0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:45.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe I have that in the back of my mind

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:48.920
<v Speaker 1>when I cut Doran's armstrong some slack. But I think,

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, well, if the owner didn't bring him up

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 1>in every other interview he did, I don't think people

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>would hate him so much. I'll tell you why my

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:58.839
<v Speaker 1>expectations were higher for him. Why because he wore number

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:01.080
<v Speaker 1>two at Kansas. He wore single digit number as a

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:03.440
<v Speaker 1>pass rusher and usually wear that. And you're like, that

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>guy's gonna be pretty good. Yeah, I just think you

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:07.799
<v Speaker 1>just think he's gonna I want to pull I'm pulling

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>up his college stats right now. I mean, yeah, he

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:13.359
<v Speaker 1>had he had sixteen career sacks at Kansas as he fell.

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 1>He fell to the Cowboys in the fourth round. I

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:17.440
<v Speaker 1>mean murder projections. He would be a second round or

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:22.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe third. He's he's met the expectations for where he

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:26.320
<v Speaker 1>was picked. I guess all right, next one, uh, Dalton

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Schultz also in the fourth round. I swear every time

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 1>every time we do this, I'm just like, man, that's tricky.

0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Like they're all like Nett. You would say, you would

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:39.400
<v Speaker 1>say didn't meet you would say below expectations if he

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:41.800
<v Speaker 1>hadn't been so good last year though, right, Yeah, because

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 1>he was not meeting them last year. He shocked the

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.160
<v Speaker 1>hell out of all of us. Yeah, some of us.

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, some of the people on this one wanted

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 1>him cut. And you can say my name, put her

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.960
<v Speaker 1>name to it, Rember Me. I think there's more than one.

0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I think more than one. I didn't really see the point.

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:01.800
<v Speaker 1>And then but then Jarwin got hurt. And when he

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 1>got hurt, it was like, oh God, what now can

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 1>he go get somebody? And he comes in and has

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:10.280
<v Speaker 1>a really good year. But I think what it shows

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 1>is the guys around him, I mean they're tied end

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:16.919
<v Speaker 1>in this offense is he's probably gonna get you sixty five.

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>He catches sixty five to seventy how long down the

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>field though, And that's what Jarwin's gonna be better than

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Charlt because he can spread it a little bit. You

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 1>don't see he didn't really see Schultz making plays down

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the field. He did his job. He made a couple,

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 1>but for the most part, he turns around, catches the ball,

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 1>gets up the field, he knows where to go. He

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:36.560
<v Speaker 1>showed a little bit more. That's a guy like him.

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I just I think met is right, but I was

0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 1>so I was so impressed with him last year. Especially

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 1>not only that, but last year, you know, Jarwin tore

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 1>his acl like thirty seconds into the opener, and I mean,

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and Dalton even he'll he wasn't ready good and he

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't ready for it. He had a bad night. And

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:59.120
<v Speaker 1>then a week later, nine catches for eighty eight yards

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:02.359
<v Speaker 1>and a very nice touchdown and a nice catch over

0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 1>like over good coverage against the Falcons. That's I mean,

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a hell of a response. And then obviously you

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>know he had comparable stats to the guy who made

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bowl, which said that a lot during the seasons,

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:17.080
<v Speaker 1>So don't I don't very very improbable snub which you

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 1>really didn't have. I'm not gonna call him a Pro

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Bowl snow. He was probably the closest guy you could

0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:23.319
<v Speaker 1>really make an argument for, unless you want to argue

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 1>that Zach Martin even though he didn't play a lot

0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 1>or Amari I would say anyway, either way, Yeah, Matt expectations,

0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 1>largely because he was a badass last year. Fifth round

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Mike White below. If you don't finish your contract, especially

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 1>as a quarterback, because like teams are, you know, you're

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>looking for reasons to hold on to a quarterback, and

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:49.879
<v Speaker 1>if you don't make it through your rookie contract, that's

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 1>not great. Sixth round Chris Covington and below below, then

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:02.759
<v Speaker 1>you have Cedric Wilson also eated. Six round, exceeded. He

0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 1>would have made the team. He would have made the

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 1>team as a rookie if he hadn't gotten hurt. He

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:09.080
<v Speaker 1>got hurt, like right at the beginning of that camp

0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and they just put him on ir um. So yeah,

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, exceeded if you're picked two o eight and

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you're still here, uh this many years later, exceeded And

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he's kept you intrigued, which to me,

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 1>that's also something to look at. He's a guy that

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm intrigued about and I want to see more and

0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to see what, you know, what he can

0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:32.359
<v Speaker 1>actually develop into. And some of these guys, I mean,

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:35.239
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned names and you quickly just kind of they're

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 1>so forgettable and you're like, yeah, yeah, he left whatever.

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:42.720
<v Speaker 1>But he's a guy that's has kept you interested despite

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the injuries. Now seventh round, both Scarborough below me played

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 1>against Yeah, yeah, when he's when he's running the ball

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 1>against him and you're looking around like good, good pick, Like,

0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:57.399
<v Speaker 1>what'd you cut this guy? He looks better than Zeke

0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that day. I will. It's funny because, you know, especially

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:02.600
<v Speaker 1>as somebody who covers the draft, I'm like, who, it's

0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a seventh round pick. It feels harsh to even say

0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 1>below expectations because seventh round picks don't even make the team.

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:10.760
<v Speaker 1>But there was so much hype on that guy because

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:13.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was a star at Alabama. Alabama's running

0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:15.320
<v Speaker 1>backs are always great. I know, you guys hate this

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 1>thing a name. Oh why I got killed for that

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:23.600
<v Speaker 1>last week. Yeah. No, no, it's not a name thing.

0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:25.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a what it's a get off the

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:27.279
<v Speaker 1>bus guy, is what it was. It was like, this

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:29.880
<v Speaker 1>guy's a running back. Yeah, we'll find a spot for him,

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:32.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. And you know, and then the Lions didn't.

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if he's still in the league.

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 1>But no, he wasn't a name guy. He was just

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 1>he was more of a this guy will kick your

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:39.759
<v Speaker 1>ass kind of well. And like I said, you know,

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Alabama's I know you don't watch a lot of college football,

0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 1>but like for years, Alabama it's like, well, their starters great,

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:49.360
<v Speaker 1>but look at this backup, Like Derrick Henry was turning

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:53.239
<v Speaker 1>heads when mark Ingram was still the starter, and um,

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:57.000
<v Speaker 1>who's the other guy. I'm already Trent Richardson, Like you know,

0:55:57.120 --> 0:55:59.000
<v Speaker 1>mark Ingram and him, they were like, oh my god,

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:01.319
<v Speaker 1>the backups. Eddie Lay was a backup on those teams.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, the backups better than the starter. And the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing with both Scarborough and he just it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>translate to the league the same way it did for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of those guys. Let me let me clarify

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<v Speaker 1>this too, because I had a few people on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>that misunderstood what I said. Let me just let me

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<v Speaker 1>say that the name thing, Yeah, I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys drafted him because his name was Taco. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what I said, and that's not what I meant.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is the whole persona of him which

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<v Speaker 1>is created at Michigan. I'm talking about the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>looks like this. I mean, he's a really tall guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got an intriguing name. You're not going to forget

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<v Speaker 1>Taco Charlton, what he looks like, what his name is.

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<v Speaker 1>It just builds into all of it. Let's look at this,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's look at Taco again, and yeah, you see

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<v Speaker 1>some good plays and all that. I just think it

0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:47.480
<v Speaker 1>just plays into it. I'm not saying you draft him

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<v Speaker 1>because that's his name, because I mean that's the case

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<v Speaker 1>Lucky Whitehead would get picked in the second round or something.

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying there's a lot of that, But I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it built the whole persona of him. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think it would have been the

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<v Speaker 1>same if his name was Mike Johnson. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>think him. I find it funny that coming from someone

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<v Speaker 1>who speaks English so well and it's so articulate, you're

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:12.960
<v Speaker 1>always having to come back on the show. And I

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 1>was about to say that that's like a theme a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, as Nick is like, all right, let me

0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 1>just clarify a couple. If I wasn't getting cut off

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:23.160
<v Speaker 1>all the time, I could finish a point fair. Oh

0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:27.920
<v Speaker 1>my god, No, that's funny. Yeah, um, okay, so we

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<v Speaker 1>finished that one. If you had to rate that draft overall,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you rate it? I would call that a

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<v Speaker 1>good draft. That's a B plus n B B plus.

0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean you get a Pro Bowl season out of Layton.

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.960
<v Speaker 1>You got two quality starters in Connor and Gallop, both

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<v Speaker 1>of your fourth round picks are still here doing things,

0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and you got a late round and find in Cedric Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, we'll see what happens with Layton.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's still he's got one, potentially two more

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<v Speaker 1>seasons to kind of you know, the book is not

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<v Speaker 1>closed on him. So yeah, I call it a B.

0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I would call it a B right now, and if

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<v Speaker 1>Layton rediscovers himself a little bit, then I would great

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 1>it even better. I also got to think about, you know,

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you're picking Night when he he was the nineteenth pick.

0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean you're picking nineteen twenty ish at every round,

0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 1>So I mean that's you're already a little bit behind.

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's hard to have great drafts when you're

0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:24.680
<v Speaker 1>already you're starting at nineteen. UM. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was good. A lot of question about that pick,

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Layton Van Rischard myself included. I mean, I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was not a big fan of that. I don't you know,

0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 1>most of us weren't. I don't like and Brian is

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 1>right about a lot of people. I'm not trying to

0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 1>dog him, but like that that was not Brian's preferred guy,

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:42.320
<v Speaker 1>and the way he shot out of the gate and

0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:44.919
<v Speaker 1>was an all pro right off the bat, he shut

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people up, you know. Or again, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what you know, he's got at least one, if

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<v Speaker 1>not two more years. We'll see what the final tally

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<v Speaker 1>looks like. You know, I thought I find this a

0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:59.400
<v Speaker 1>lot more interesting than I thought I would, just looking

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:03.800
<v Speaker 1>back at used draft and just comparing not just each

0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 1>peak pick peek. Sorry, that's what I get from making

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>fun of you, Nick, there's my accent, No, but just

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the drafting overall and just comparing kind of

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:21.280
<v Speaker 1>what happens year after year and how whether they were

0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 1>successful or not successful. So it's it'll be interested interesting

0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to see if we finished this next week with Derek

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and just kind of look at maybe if there is

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<v Speaker 1>a trend where you go from a really good draft

0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:38.920
<v Speaker 1>then kind of not good, then decent, then maybe good again.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I mean, the Cowboys need to put a

0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:43.960
<v Speaker 1>little more emphasis on free agency. I think we would

0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:46.480
<v Speaker 1>all agree. But the draft, the draft is the lifeblood

0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:49.080
<v Speaker 1>of the league, like it's all. It's not just and

0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:52.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not just about finding stars. It's about that. I mean,

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that's how you control salaries. It's not necessarily fair to

0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:58.440
<v Speaker 1>those guys, but that's if you get great players and

0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:00.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to pay them a lot. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>you compete and win playoff games. And that's what makes

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<v Speaker 1>it so interesting. And looking at the Cowboys is fascinating,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can go look at somebody else and be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they're good. They found five Pro bowlers in

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<v Speaker 1>the same draft. That's why they're bad. Two thousand and nine.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't pick until the third round and none of

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<v Speaker 1>their picks worked out. Not to bring that source subject up,

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<v Speaker 1>but all right, well it matters. We'll see what if

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<v Speaker 1>we get to finish this next week, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure we'll talk more about the draft will which will

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<v Speaker 1>be the following day and an exciting day to finally

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<v Speaker 1>get some answers and see what actually happens. Perniki David Hellman,

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<v Speaker 1>a member ORCIA. This has been the Break on Dallas

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