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Speaker 1: Welcome. Do the favorites the podcast from the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I'm Chad Melman. NFL season is over. I crushed, I've dominated.

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Speaker 1: I was so good and at the end of NFL season,

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Speaker 1: I like to reflect. I like to take stock. I

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Speaker 1: like to think about what the podcast can be when

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Speaker 1: it's not NFL season, when it's not just me and

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Speaker 1: Scooch going through every single game. And the truth is,

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Speaker 1: right now, since gambling became legal, every single person is

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Speaker 1: trying to do a Pis podcast and doing it in

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Speaker 1: any way that makes them feel distinguished from the other

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Speaker 1: Picks podcasts. And the truth is, the best podcasts about

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Speaker 1: picking are on the Action Network. They are Jason Sobel

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Speaker 1: and Peter Jennings talking about golf. There Colin Wilson and

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Speaker 1: Stucky and Mike Randall talking about college basketball. We don't

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Speaker 1: need another Picks podcast right now, so I want to

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Speaker 1: find a way to expand the funnel of what we do,

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Speaker 1: broaden the tent, get more people under the umbrella. And

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Speaker 1: it's plain how topics that are happening every day in

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Speaker 1: the world of sports impact sports betting, and how sports

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Speaker 1: betting impacts you guys as fans. So that's what I

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Speaker 1: want to try to do today. We're gonna tackle a

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Speaker 1: bunch of topics. We're gonna talk about the six figure

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Speaker 1: NASCAR bet that the Action Network has made thanks to

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Speaker 1: our NASCAR editor p J. Walsh, and we introduced some

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Speaker 1: new voices from here at the Action Network because I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about gambling the way we talk about

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Speaker 1: her here, with people who are more obsessed about it

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Speaker 1: than you are. That's what we're gonna do today. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about Pete Rose. I wanted to get back

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Speaker 1: into baseball. We're gonna talk about the XFL. I am

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Speaker 1: gonna do it with Matt Mitchell, senior producer at the

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Speaker 1: Action Network, on the phone from Milwaukee. I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: it with Colin Wilson, senior Everything writer calling in from Tulsa.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do with Katie rich Creek, who runs all

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Speaker 1: of our NFL and Fantasy coverage. Who's calling in from Denver.

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Speaker 1: What's going on everybody? Matt Mitchell, how you doing, Buddy?

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Speaker 1: Doing great? Here in America's dairy land, Chad, Katie freezing

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Speaker 1: but hanging in there. Colin, I mean, I live in Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: We had a tornado and then a sleet storm and

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Speaker 1: then a snowstorm. These two have their regular climates. It's

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Speaker 1: predictable weather. I live in the armpit of the weather

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Speaker 1: part of the United States. I mean it, it's always

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Speaker 1: something new. It's true, you do. And I think you

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Speaker 1: can describe it not just as the armpit of weather,

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Speaker 1: but some people would call it the armpit of everything. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is, people like, why don't you go

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Speaker 1: in your basements when you have a tornado? Do people

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Speaker 1: not realize the state of Oklahoma is a floodplain, so

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Speaker 1: we can't have basements, So we can't hide from the tornadoes.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, listen, you can't hide from this podcast either.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. We're kicking off something entirely new. Here.

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Speaker 1: The first thing we're talking about, let's call it the

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Speaker 1: main thing, The main thing, the XFL. The reason we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the XFL is threefold. One. The ratings were

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Speaker 1: really big for ABC, ESPN, Fox, means a lot of

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Speaker 1: last year and then famously failed. Number three, they talked

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Speaker 1: I actually found it distracting. I felt like they were

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Speaker 1: trying too hard. Every other sentence out of Tom Hart's

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Speaker 1: talking about the first half of owner. They had a

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Speaker 1: graphic talking about what the future odds were for who's

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Speaker 1: I love how they were leaning into it. Generally, I

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Speaker 1: love the incessant conversation. I felt like they're trying too

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Speaker 1: in in football broadcasting. Kator rich Creek, give me your take.

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Speaker 1: field interviews as players are coming off, and they were entertaining. However,

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Speaker 1: I did ultimately find them distracting. I didn't think they

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Speaker 1: at to your point, Chad, I do think that they

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Speaker 1: Other than agreeing with me, I think the rest of

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Speaker 1: your take is horrible. Hey, I watched that live f

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Speaker 1: A well, they could pull that back. God, I can't

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Speaker 1: believe how much I disagree with you, Kylin Wilson. I

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Speaker 1: I'm playing Dana Carvey in the McLaughlin skit in Saturday

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Speaker 1: Night Live, which Katie informed the other day it was

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Speaker 1: But in this case, I actually feel like Dana Carvey

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Speaker 1: because you're wrong, Katie rich Creek more listen that this

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Speaker 1: is a beautiful product. It's gonna be great. We need

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Speaker 1: the announcer to stop talking about the gambling lines because

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Speaker 1: we have bullshit meters. Those of us that gamble on

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Speaker 1: games like frequently, like every day, we understand what the

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Speaker 1: number is. I can't wait we will hit peak gambling

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Speaker 1: XFL when June Jones goes for a three point conversion

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Speaker 1: cover the spread. To me, that's going to be just

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Speaker 1: ratings gold. But you know, from another standpoint, I think

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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful product. There were only eleven penalties in

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Speaker 1: field position rules on kicking a three point conversion which

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Speaker 1: one point conversions when obviously expected point says you should

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Speaker 1: go for two point conversions. I loved it. From a

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Speaker 1: gambling standpoint. Now, everybody has a little bit of football

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Speaker 1: team fatigue right now, so I kind of wish this

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Speaker 1: I think it's delightful in that I'm always looking for

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Speaker 1: tapas restaurant and on. Like Katie, also, I could remember

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Speaker 1: So I had dinner with someone last night. I can't

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Speaker 1: me all these questions about gambling on the XFL, asking me,

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Speaker 1: how do you know anything? How are bookmakers making these lines?

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Speaker 1: Colin is like the most experienced, most professional gambler of

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Speaker 1: spreads came into existence. Now where they came up with

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Speaker 1: With these rules in mind, this is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: crapshoot for bookmakers. They're gonna be blindfolded and throwing a

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Speaker 1: of XFL last week, I know Seawan Corner talked a

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Speaker 1: lot about the Vipers being number one in his power ratings.

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Speaker 1: They were favored going into the season. They lost terribly

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Speaker 1: the futures market obviously, just coming out of Week one

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Speaker 1: based on those first four games. Chris Raybond actually made

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Speaker 1: there was significant home field advantage in Week one. Average

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Speaker 1: points um and they went three and one against the spread.

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Speaker 1: So I do think that will factor in down the

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Speaker 1: the first week example, size was not great for the Vipers.

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Speaker 1: I think it's worth taking a fire on them. Not now, though,

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Speaker 1: just let me energy it real quick. They're going to Seattle,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Seattle was as bad as they showed

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Speaker 1: in Week one, But the Vipers have problems on the

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Speaker 1: on a regular basis. It is not pretty. And then

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Speaker 1: Jeff Goodman, a stadium very good college basketball reporter, did

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Speaker 1: a piece in which he sort of commented on mac

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Speaker 1: otigue and people on Twitter coming after him for this,

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Speaker 1: and made a connection to the fact that sports betting

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Speaker 1: being illegal is now something people are going to have

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Speaker 1: to deal with on a more regular basis. For this,

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with the behavior. I don't necessarily agree

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Speaker 1: with Jeff's premise either, because this has been going on forever.

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Speaker 1: It's been going on for fantasy, and there's been gamblers

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Speaker 1: on Twitter long before gambling was legal. So Katie rich Creek,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you one more chance to take

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Speaker 1: a very big lead in the podcast. I want to

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Speaker 1: hear you take on Jeff's angle on this. I think

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Speaker 1: you're right, and I don't want you to think I'm

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Speaker 1: only agreeing with you to say in your favor. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's anything new. However, I do

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Speaker 1: think generally speaking, it's one thing to complain about a

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Speaker 1: player for botching your bet or swinging your fantasy matchup

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, but it's entirely different thing to slide into

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Speaker 1: his d m s, which is what was happening in

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Speaker 1: this case. And if you are a grown adult, going

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Speaker 1: as so far as to slide into the d m

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Speaker 1: s of a nineteen or twenty year old kid. That's

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Speaker 1: a tough look. And your problems extend far past losing

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Speaker 1: that that Katie going after. Just people sliding into d

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Speaker 1: ms generally, that's an interesting thing. Matt, as someone who

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Speaker 1: before you were married and probably slid into people's d

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Speaker 1: m s, do you feel sensitive to that? Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: don't like Twitter scolds anymore than I like gambling scolds,

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Speaker 1: and generally I'd like to support people who want to

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Speaker 1: attack on paid amateurs online. But I it is so

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Speaker 1: incredibly distasteful to aim directly at the players and to

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Speaker 1: tag them and to slide to their damns. That is

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Speaker 1: that is gross. Like, like I have a in my neighborhood,

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Speaker 1: and that's where everybody goes into their garages. And when

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Speaker 1: it snows a lot, which does all the time in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: I have a neighbor named Dan, and Dan snow blows

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Speaker 1: the front of all the garages so everyone can get in.

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Speaker 1: And no one asks him to do this, that one

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Speaker 1: pays him to do this. It's just a real nice guy,

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Speaker 1: good neighbor. If Dan opened my garage door, and he

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Speaker 1: filled my garage with that snow just because he was

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Speaker 1: mad at me. I would talk tons of ship about

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Speaker 1: Dan all over the neighborhood. I wouldn't yell at him, though,

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Speaker 1: because he wasn't getting paid to do that. That's not

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Speaker 1: his job. You can get screamed at for anything you

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Speaker 1: get paid to do. But if you're an unpaid amateur athlete,

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Speaker 1: that's a great reason to pay these kids. Because first,

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Speaker 1: Rodeo Betters, I mean Macot got an eleven dollar VENMO

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Speaker 1: request from a gambler. Eleven dollars this guy blew up

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Speaker 1: ma seo taken were after the game. If you're so

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Speaker 1: mad about eleven dollars, I remember my first bat to like,

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Speaker 1: you gotta grow up, Colin. Would you yell at your

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Speaker 1: pastor if he gave it a bad sermon? I would

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Speaker 1: ask the collection plate to stop in my lap so

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Speaker 1: I could take it off he gave a bad sermon.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if I had eleven dollar eleven dollar

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Speaker 1: VENMO request, if I had eleven dollars, every time a

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Speaker 1: college basketball player screwed me on a point spread by

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Speaker 1: like one point, I could pay off Bret bielim As

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Speaker 1: Arkansas buy out. That's how much money I would have.

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Speaker 1: It's a new reality. But the gamblers were here before.

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Speaker 1: They've all we've always been around years before this. One instance,

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Speaker 1: Nick bro Set was an LSU running back that fell

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Speaker 1: down at the goal line and Arkansas covered seven and

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Speaker 1: a half just shot the line. He does not want

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Speaker 1: to score. There's some folks very game. Oh boy. That

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Speaker 1: was a couple of weeks before Todd Gurley decided to

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Speaker 1: do the same thing against the Packers. Right fall down

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Speaker 1: at the goal line. And this is just our new reality.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just getting more attention now because ambling

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Speaker 1: is becoming legalized. This has always been going on. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: used to growing up in a culture where things are

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Speaker 1: so hush, right, gambling was taboo. You can't talk about

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Speaker 1: it out loud. You know. Even my tax attorneys like

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Speaker 1: having I mean, finally, my tax attorneys like asking me

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Speaker 1: questions because of the new legalization of stuff. So it's

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Speaker 1: just a new world that we live in and there's

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Speaker 1: more exposure to the idiots. And I think as a

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Speaker 1: sports gambling community, we need to be happy that all

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Speaker 1: this is being legalized. But at the same time, we

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Speaker 1: have a responsibility to educate and patrol our community. I

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Speaker 1: might turn my take around a little bit. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to do about ninety degrees because I do think that

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Speaker 1: maybe what Jeff is saying in this piece is that

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Speaker 1: the expansion of gambling might create more of an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for people to go after athletes who caused them to

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Speaker 1: miss out on winning bets, is that there's more amateurs

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Speaker 1: in the market, and amateurs don't know how to behave

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Speaker 1: they don't know how to handle winning, they don't know

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Speaker 1: how to handle losing. Colin, I think that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, right. Yeah, there's not an exponential increase

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Speaker 1: in wise guys, and there's not an exponential increase of

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Speaker 1: people that are do in this correctly. There's an exponential

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Speaker 1: increased of new gamblers that are new to betting and

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Speaker 1: don't know how to handle themselves, and they act immature

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Speaker 1: when they lose bets, and they like to brag too

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Speaker 1: much when they win. So that's just the new world

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Speaker 1: we live in. And Colin, I do want to point

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Speaker 1: out that I think you and I and everyone at

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Speaker 1: the Action Network is totally okay with feeling victimized by

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Speaker 1: and screaming at players and coaches like I After that

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Speaker 1: U mass Acron football game, I tweeted Isaiah Rodgers of

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Speaker 1: UMass might be the worst fucking defensive player in America.

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Speaker 1: I didn't tag him, but he was the first person

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Speaker 1: to like that tweet. Yes, but the point is, I

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Speaker 1: don't you don't reach out and try to find those

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Speaker 1: people to say to their faces, like my neighbor, did

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Speaker 1: you just talk ship behind their backs? And then event

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Speaker 1: minutes open. Well, I think I think the important thing

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Speaker 1: from my Twitter standpoint is that when I see some

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Speaker 1: funky stuff happening in a game, I will clip it

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Speaker 1: and I will put it on my Twitter feet and

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Speaker 1: I will say, wow, look at this. This is awfully strange.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, here was the total or here

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Speaker 1: was the points? Right? You just says in the really

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Speaker 1: interesting colin, which was your clipping stuff saying it's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Is the inference or the connection is supposed to be

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Speaker 1: that you think there was something in terms of a

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Speaker 1: fixed You thought someone was aware of what the point

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Speaker 1: spread was. You thought someone was aware of what the

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Speaker 1: total was. Don't act like these coaches don't know what

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Speaker 1: the point spread is? Because Lane Kiffin up by what seven?

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Speaker 1: With a point spread a five and a half or

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Speaker 1: six ran his punter purposefully through the end zone, causing

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Speaker 1: a safety, beating Marshall by five. He acknowledged it, got

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Speaker 1: hopped on Twitter and made a joke about it. So

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Speaker 1: these coaches absolutely know what the point spread is, and

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Speaker 1: you know it didn't change the way that Lane coached

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Speaker 1: the game, but they're aware of exactly what the number is.

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Speaker 1: All I well, listen, speaking of people who know gambling,

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Speaker 1: we got one more segment here. We opened it up

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Speaker 1: to my followers on Twitter and I said to them,

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Speaker 1: come on the show. If you've got a gambling specific

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Speaker 1: trivia question that you think can stump our team, and

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Speaker 1: they do it, we're going to give them a free

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Speaker 1: Action Network Edge subscription. All right, joining us now our

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Speaker 1: very first contestant in our gambling trivia segment, which we

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Speaker 1: haven't even named yet, Mitchell, we gotta get on. How

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Speaker 1: we gotta think of a name for this. I think

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Speaker 1: you might have put one in the run down and

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Speaker 1: you don't know splits. I don't. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: like that. We're gonna come up. We're gonna come up

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Speaker 1: with the new name. Our first contestant is Connor Lynch,

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Speaker 1: who was one of the many people that DM me,

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Speaker 1: but I liked his question the best Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: favorite podcasts, Good to be here on Law School at

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Speaker 1: the University of Missouri, Go Tigers. Yeah, there we go,

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Speaker 1: and Connor gets to the pleasure of driving down to Pittsburgh, Kansas,

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Speaker 1: just an hour away and registering for points bet and

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Speaker 1: be able to play us a bet on his phone legally. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there we go. Made a couple of trips to Iowa

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Speaker 1: over to Council Bluff to get some stuff in there.

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Speaker 1: So doing what we gotta do? What do you like

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Speaker 1: to gamble on? Mostly football, hockey, the Over and pretty

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Speaker 1: much anything I can find? So, oh, kinnor you'd fit

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Speaker 1: in fine here at the Action Network. All right, kind

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Speaker 1: of listen. You sent in a trivia question last night.

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Speaker 1: I have not shared it with our panelists. If you

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Speaker 1: stump us, then you get a free subscription to the

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Speaker 1: Action Network. Catch a You're Ready Ready Well wide receiver

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Speaker 1: was most profitable for reception overs in the twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: regular season, and this is assuming all bets were made

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Speaker 1: to win one unit. Matt Mitchell to go over consistently.

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Speaker 1: It means you have to keep exceeding expectations, which would

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Speaker 1: tell me that you'd have to have very low expectations

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Speaker 1: to start the year. So my guest is gonna be

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Speaker 1: d J. Moore. I'm gonna go with an sec guy

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Speaker 1: that I loved and Russell Wilson fell in love with

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Speaker 1: him at the end of the season. I'm worried about

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, but DK Metcalf was starting

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Speaker 1: to me the tip ball jump ball guys. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go with DK Metcalf. Yeah, I am not applying

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Speaker 1: Mitchell's logict, and I'm gonna go with Michael Thomas, Katie

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Speaker 1: rich Creek. I was gonna go with that all right,

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Speaker 1: then I am gonna go Keenan Allen. Keenan all ended

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Speaker 1: up with negative one unit on the season, but the

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Speaker 1: other guests were all strong. D J. Moore came in third,

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Speaker 1: getting just under seven units total. Michael Thomas came in

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Speaker 1: second with seven point three units, the exact number on

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf right around even just a little bit above,

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Speaker 1: but with seven point six units went eleven and three

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Speaker 1: and two was DeVante Parker from Miami. Wow, does that

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Speaker 1: mean I effectively win Michael Thomas went twelve and four,

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Speaker 1: DeVante Parker went eleven and three and two. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to give yourself a win, that's fine, but

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Speaker 1: Parker were better throughout this season. Katie's line that my

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Speaker 1: logic was flawed rules my logic was flawless. More importantly,

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Speaker 1: Connor wins because he stumped us. Connor, you are the

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Speaker 1: first winner of an Action Network Edge subscription on the

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Speaker 1: latest version of The Favorites in which you stumped us

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Speaker 1: all with your trivia question about betting. Awesome there. We

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Speaker 1: gotta thank you guys. I think you have a fabulous

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Speaker 1: career as a lawyer and a better Hey you, that's

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Speaker 1: the goal. That's the goal, something to aspire to. Connor

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Speaker 1: Lynch from Kansas City, law student at University of Missouri,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the Favorites. Yea,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me Chad before we go as promised,

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Speaker 1: we have a six figure potential way in writing on

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Speaker 1: a NASCAR grouper here at the Action Network. A groupers

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Speaker 1: when all of us go in on the same bet.

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Speaker 1: P J. Walsh, our NASCAR editor, payned the entire team

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Speaker 1: about a month and a half ago and said, listen,

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Speaker 1: I got a bet on NASCAR that we can get

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Speaker 1: a ton of value on right now, he explained what

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Speaker 1: he did to us for the bet. I convinced everybody

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Speaker 1: to make at the Action network. Is Rock Chestaing the

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Speaker 1: one they take on because I say jump and you

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Speaker 1: say how high? And all serious though, rock Chesting was

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Speaker 1: priced as a long stout of two. So I want

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Speaker 1: to say the Action at works is close to seven

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Speaker 1: figure liability on this since we all got down with

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Speaker 1: a good number. Another line is down to one sixty

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Speaker 1: two one depending upon the book, so we have a

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Speaker 1: ton of value on it already. The key reason it's

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Speaker 1: a good bet is because Chastain is actually getting support

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Speaker 1: from chip can Asty Racing, which, if you don't follow

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Speaker 1: the sport, is one of the best teams in NASCAR.

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Speaker 1: So he was priced as a what we call back marker,

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Speaker 1: but he's actually one of the best rides. And you

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Speaker 1: can see the difference in the market now it's fifty

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Speaker 1: to one. One bit of warning, I have a long

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Speaker 1: history of betting Chasting. He wins and then fails post

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Speaker 1: race inspectum, and that basically means your bet as a loser.

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Speaker 1: So good luck with that alright, folks, that is our show,

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Speaker 1: that is the Favorites. We're gonna come back next week.

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