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Speaker 1: Nicole Hutcheson.
Speaker 3: All right, Cowboys Nation, Welcome in into today's episode of
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Speaker 3: I'm Nicole, sent alongside Jessinvarrees and we got jazz money.
Speaker 4: We got the ladies in the stow.
Speaker 5: What's up?
Speaker 6: What's popping off?
Speaker 5: It's a good day today. That's a good day.
Speaker 3: Little rainy outside, yeah, but for the most part was
Speaker 3: pretty sonny, good weather.
Speaker 6: It was hot, it's humans humid. It's like the rain
Speaker 6: stopped just.
Speaker 7: For us to go outside and then start pouring when
Speaker 7: we came back in.
Speaker 6: I like that.
Speaker 3: I feel like the rain stopped because they knew good
Speaker 3: things were coming.
Speaker 6: Right, sure, we'll get things were coming.
Speaker 3: We were the good things coming outside, you know for practice.
Speaker 5: Well, they know sugar melts, oh, because they're so sweet.
Speaker 6: Get it.
Speaker 3: I didn't get that one because we're so sweet, we're
Speaker 3: here now, we're here now, so sweet.
Speaker 8: Thing of practice, I didn't get a recommendation for them
Speaker 8: for the name of our like or my my little
Speaker 8: Are we.
Speaker 6: Calling it a yes?
Speaker 8: I don't know how I feel about it, but they
Speaker 8: were making light of how I kept saying, well, we're
Speaker 8: not out there for very long, and so they were like,
Speaker 8: what if you call it?
Speaker 6: Just a few minutes with Jazz, and I liked it.
Speaker 4: I liked it as.
Speaker 8: Long as people know it's in the context of this show,
Speaker 8: because I can take it out of this show.
Speaker 6: It could sound like something very different. But I like that.
Speaker 3: Who came with my brother a few minutes.
Speaker 7: His name is Gyrus Genius.
Speaker 5: That's cute.
Speaker 4: That's actually really dope.
Speaker 3: All right, just a few minutes with Jess.
Speaker 6: I liked it.
Speaker 5: That's cute.
Speaker 6: What you noticed from practice?
Speaker 3: And then we'll go to the practice report.
Speaker 8: So today I got to see ceed lamplexus juggling skills,
Speaker 8: which apparently is reportedly from someone else, is reportedly a
Speaker 8: hand eye coordination thing. I wasn't sure what was going
Speaker 8: on there, but yeah, so CD's pretty good at juggling.
Speaker 8: That's probably the biggest takeaway from our few minutes at practice.
Speaker 8: I got to see some of the guys working on
Speaker 8: some of their like vision obstruction and catching balls at
Speaker 8: the jugs. Here's here's an interesting thing I noticed from
Speaker 8: this past weekend. And I know we're going to talk
Speaker 8: about the Saint today, but that interception that Eric Kendrick's got,
Speaker 8: because like if you watch the film, if you watch
Speaker 8: the tape, you see that he like gets pushed, he
Speaker 8: spins around and then he's just like catches the ball
Speaker 8: in the air. And when I saw it, I was
Speaker 8: like thinking of the drill that they did, because when
Speaker 8: I saw them at practice last week, the ball was
Speaker 8: literally being thrown from behind them and people were like
Speaker 8: waving their hands in his face and then he catched it.
Speaker 6: And I was like, Oh, that actually like paid off.
Speaker 7: And I think that's a new drill this year specifically,
Speaker 7: it might be I don't remember seeing that last year.
Speaker 3: I don't think I ever saw that last year.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so now we know it works like it did
Speaker 8: its job. So that was another fun thing to watch.
Speaker 8: And outside of that, it was just a lot more
Speaker 8: than usual. Saw like the defensive guys working on there.
Speaker 8: They're working a lot on past blocking today on like, uh,
Speaker 8: you know, blocking a guy and then reaching up to
Speaker 8: bat down a ball. So that was fun to watch
Speaker 8: a few minutes.
Speaker 3: A few minutes now we got a little second of
Speaker 3: this practice report.
Speaker 4: All right, that's right, it's fine, it is.
Speaker 7: I still don't get it.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, because you know what, I'll be hyping you
Speaker 3: out with your little point.
Speaker 5: No, I'm genuinely.
Speaker 4: No, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 6: Here's a practice report from today.
Speaker 4: Wait, my computer just uh, there we go. H.
Speaker 3: Of course, let's just note that today is Veterans Rest
Speaker 3: Day if they choose so. So Brandon Cooks was limited,
Speaker 3: C J. Goodwin Limited, Eric Kendricks Limited, and that was
Speaker 3: obviously rest day.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then you had Marshaun Neelan who did not participate,
Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence Limited, Zach Martin Limited. John Stevens did not
Speaker 3: participate as well. He's still dealing with that hamstring. He
Speaker 3: was off to the side working with Brown on the
Speaker 3: bands and the Saints.
Speaker 6: Let's look at theirs.
Speaker 3: Okay, sorry, I do want.
Speaker 7: To say, well, you're while you're looking for that, I
Speaker 7: did catch up with John Stevens in the locker room today.
Speaker 7: He did tell me he feels night and day compared
Speaker 7: to what he felt last week, and so still day
Speaker 7: by day at this point with him, but it is
Speaker 7: trending upward, which you always want to hear from a player,
Speaker 7: especially iy like John Stevens Junior, who just gosh, I'm
Speaker 7: like just waiting for his season debut.
Speaker 3: And hopefully soon just because of the fact that he
Speaker 3: flashed last year before his injury.
Speaker 7: Jake Ferguson, Jake Ferguson day to day also for sure
Speaker 7: need all the depth you can get in that tight end,
Speaker 7: and we're going.
Speaker 3: To talk about that later in the show. But here's
Speaker 3: the Saints' injury poort. Jalen Ford Limited.
Speaker 4: You had Fueg I'm sorry, I'm still struggling with that name.
Speaker 3: Talise Talisa Fuega Limited, Dallan Hulker Limited, DeMarco Jackson did
Speaker 3: not participate, Marshaan Latimar did not participate, Tyron Matthew did
Speaker 3: not participate, Foster Moreau Limited, Lucas Patrick did not participate
Speaker 3: at Perry full participant in of course, and then Caitlin
Speaker 3: Saunders did not participate. So that report is obviously a
Speaker 3: little bit lengthy, but just starting with you know, Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3: We heard from him today in the press conference, and
Speaker 3: one of the things that kind of stood out to
Speaker 3: me was he they spent all summer in Cleveland, all
Speaker 3: summer preparing for Cleveland. Yeah, so now they're back in
Speaker 3: that seven day workflow when they come back Mondays, you know,
Speaker 3: preparing for the next opponent. My question to y'all ladies is,
Speaker 3: do y'all think that this, the fact that they did
Speaker 3: have so long to prepare for Cleveland is the reason
Speaker 3: why they pretty much dominated that game and you look
Speaker 3: ahead at the Saints. Do y'all think that that could
Speaker 3: carry over into this week?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, such a short amount of time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what I'd be curious to really dive
Speaker 7: into with that, specifically is the week of the Saints game.
Speaker 7: So last week, when I was talking to players, they
Speaker 7: told me that they spent the week before really deep diving.
Speaker 5: Into the fine tune details of it.
Speaker 7: It didn't sound like they were like just strictly honed
Speaker 7: in on the Browns for the longevity of the summer.
Speaker 7: So I wonder if that was more of a coaching
Speaker 7: thing them kind of preparing and in that sense taking
Speaker 7: it to the team the week before, because the week
Speaker 7: before was really what they used to fine tune. I
Speaker 7: had told you, like who steps on what foot before
Speaker 7: they take off, what they're dominant handed, I mean things
Speaker 7: just the most I don't know the tiniest details, so
Speaker 7: I'm wondering how much of it was just coaching, and
Speaker 7: then how much of it was players involved in that
Speaker 7: as well.
Speaker 8: I think obviously having that much time to look at
Speaker 8: film and prepare for an opponent is going to make
Speaker 8: a big difference. I think it'll carry over to the
Speaker 8: Saints though, because a lot of the things that they
Speaker 8: had to work on in order to be prepared for
Speaker 8: the Browns they're going to use against the Saints. Yea,
Speaker 8: And Mike McCarthy has always been big on building like
Speaker 8: one week after the other, one section of the season
Speaker 8: after another, So he just seems like the type of
Speaker 8: coach who.
Speaker 6: Would have thought about that going into Week one.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I'm pretty sure that there are some things
Speaker 8: that they can build off of and take with them
Speaker 8: into this into this week against the Saints.
Speaker 3: What's the number one thing you want to see from
Speaker 3: this offense? This Sunday.
Speaker 7: Consistency, the consistency of you set your standard and now
Speaker 7: continue to build upon it, you know, as.
Speaker 3: Far as what's their standard in your eyes.
Speaker 7: You want to you want to take the good from
Speaker 7: the bad last year, continue to win at home as well.
Speaker 7: And here's the thing too, about the offense specifically is
Speaker 7: now Mike McCarthy, we talked a.
Speaker 5: Little bit about this last week.
Speaker 7: I believe you can continue to get more creative with
Speaker 7: the play calling as the opponent you know, becomes for
Speaker 7: foreseeable for h whatever special packages and stuff he has.
Speaker 7: But overall, I want to see growth. I want to
Speaker 7: see consistency. Last week was setting the standard across the league,
Speaker 7: not even just the Cowboys. Everybody set their own standard.
Speaker 7: So you know, we're we're gonna be talking about the
Speaker 7: Saints coming off of such a blowout win that they had,
Speaker 7: and we'll get into that later, but you know, well
Speaker 7: a little different, but but they set their standard for sure.
Speaker 7: The Cowboys now setting their standard as far is, you know, defensively,
Speaker 7: which we'll talk about later, being able to create takeaways,
Speaker 7: they're blitz packages, everything of that nature. Cowboys often specifically, though,
Speaker 7: I want to continue to see the confidence growing within
Speaker 7: these younger guys. Uh Tyler Guy and Cooper Bebee talk
Speaker 7: to him a little bit in the locker room today
Speaker 7: because something that we talked about on Monday was Schottenheimer
Speaker 7: mentioning his command of the offense and how notable it is.
Speaker 5: And I asked him, I said, where did that come from?
Speaker 7: And he said, you know, you'd be so surprised. I
Speaker 7: didn't say a word. When I came into this building.
Speaker 5: I was quiet. I was so to myself. And I said, so,
Speaker 5: what changed?
Speaker 7: And he said, having Dak Prescott's confidence in me, having
Speaker 7: my quarterback come up to me and say I trust
Speaker 7: what you're doing. He said, it continued to rapid fire
Speaker 7: his confidence throughout this process, the guys around him. He said,
Speaker 7: you know when a Zach Martin's coming up to you
Speaker 7: and saying that you're doing a good job, He's like,
Speaker 7: I would take those a's pretty much little wins. And
Speaker 7: so I want to continue to see that, and when
Speaker 7: things get difficult, or if they get difficult, I don't
Speaker 7: want to see them deer away from still going on
Speaker 7: an upward trend.
Speaker 8: That I definitely want to see some more growth. I mean,
Speaker 8: we saw some really good things obviously from the offense,
Speaker 8: but are there are also little things that I think
Speaker 8: they can improve upon that things that I think we
Speaker 8: talked about going into Week one, things like the blocking
Speaker 8: assignments for the run game. And for the most part,
Speaker 8: I think the run game looked a lot better than
Speaker 8: what a lot of people thought it was gonna then
Speaker 8: how a lot of people thought it was gonna look.
Speaker 8: But I think the reason why people had the expectations
Speaker 8: they did is because of what we saw last season.
Speaker 8: There was actually a lot of room for even more
Speaker 8: production than what we did see. So there were a
Speaker 8: couple of instances where you saw a runner going through
Speaker 8: a gap that maybe wasn't optimal. Now I don't know
Speaker 8: if that was the runner's fault or if that was
Speaker 8: because of blocking assignments being missed, but little things like
Speaker 8: that I would like to see get cleaned up. Tyler Geyton,
Speaker 8: I hope he's not mad at me for calling them out.
Speaker 8: But on paper, he did great two pressures right one set,
Speaker 8: which a lot of people expected worse from the rookie.
Speaker 8: But if you're watching the film, you see a lot
Speaker 8: of instances where he's getting pushed back, where people are
Speaker 8: shedding him very easily, and like, yes, Miles, it was
Speaker 8: Miles Garrett in a lot of those situations, like so
Speaker 8: the reigning defensive player of the year, like what you expected. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but I would like to see him hold his ground
Speaker 8: a little bit more and kind of dictate the movement
Speaker 8: between him and the guy across from him a little
Speaker 8: bit better and not get pushed back so much and
Speaker 8: not get moved around so much.
Speaker 6: So yeah, overall, just growth.
Speaker 8: Like a lot of those little things that a team
Speaker 8: might watch the film and be like, Okay, we're going
Speaker 8: to take advantage of that, Mett.
Speaker 6: I would like them to see it. I would like
Speaker 6: to see them clean it up.
Speaker 3: And speaking of this offensive line, how much of facing
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett, Zadarius Smith, that whole defensive line from the
Speaker 3: Browns do you feel like prepared Tyler, Guiden and Cooper
Speaker 3: bebe for you know, Chase Young, Cam Jordan, those guys.
Speaker 5: I mean, and not to mention their own teammates.
Speaker 7: When you have this top caliber defense that you know
Speaker 7: and you didn't necessarily know what to sspect under Mike Zimmer,
Speaker 7: I think that's still to be determined. Despite a very
Speaker 7: successful Week one, you have a guy like Michael Parsons.
Speaker 7: You have a tank, you have an Eric Kendricks, you
Speaker 7: have so many weapons that you're going against day to day,
Speaker 7: and you're tired of the iron sharpens iron mentality.
Speaker 5: But it is true.
Speaker 7: So I feel like any preparation, and this rookie class
Speaker 7: specifically is so special.
Speaker 5: I think because they're.
Speaker 7: So coachable and they want to learn. Any experience they
Speaker 7: have gotten, they've taken really big leaps and bounds from
Speaker 7: you know, specifically when you're talking about Cooper b B
Speaker 7: Tyler guy in and then you even look at the
Speaker 7: bigger picture of them having to fit into this O
Speaker 7: line that was used to working together. But now you
Speaker 7: have a new center, you have a new guy taking command.
Speaker 7: I mean, you're not with Tyler Biattis who you were
Speaker 7: used to before, Tyron Smith no longer. They're obviously huge
Speaker 7: shoes to feel So I think, you know, to answer
Speaker 7: your question, it's it's going to continue to be a
Speaker 7: work of work in progress for this offensive line. But overall,
Speaker 7: I mean their coach, they want to learn and they're
Speaker 7: picking it up like sponges physically.
Speaker 8: I think players like that will prepare them. But this
Speaker 8: week we're going to be looking at a completely different scheme,
Speaker 8: like Joe Wood has completely different tendencies and what Jim
Speaker 8: Schwartz had. So yeah, that's going to be a new
Speaker 8: challenge for them as far as like what they're reading
Speaker 8: in real time. But I don't want to like insult anybody.
Speaker 8: I don't think in terms of that it'll be as
Speaker 8: big of a challenge. But as far as you know,
Speaker 8: preparing for players like who you mentioned, Chase Young, yeah,
Speaker 8: I don't have too many major concerns. My main concerns
Speaker 8: right now, which is something that I want to watch
Speaker 8: a little bit more film on, is just like how
Speaker 8: they were doing the blitz against the Panthers and I
Speaker 8: and I don't know because of like what you mentioned
Speaker 8: on the injury report. If marshallmore I can talk today,
Speaker 8: I promise, Okay. If Marshawn Lattimore is out, then a
Speaker 8: lot of the ways that they use Alante Taylor they
Speaker 8: might not be able to do that again, you know.
Speaker 8: So I really think it's going to depend on how
Speaker 8: Joe Wood decides to approach the Cowboys and what he
Speaker 8: decides to do. So physically, yes, they're more than prepared,
Speaker 8: but as far as that scheme is going to be
Speaker 8: interesting to see what they're able to keep and what
Speaker 8: they have to completely switch up because of the opponent
Speaker 8: and who is or isn't available.
Speaker 7: It's interesting I started it and then jumping around the table.
Speaker 3: Now it's interesting that you bring that up. One thing
Speaker 3: that I did also notice from Joe Wood's scheme is
Speaker 3: that he brings every a lot of people up to
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and disguises things so well, I
Speaker 3: mean he'll drop safety a Lante Taylor, Yeah, and he'll bail.
Speaker 3: You have two linebackers that sometimes bail, and you'll just
Speaker 3: never know what is going to happen with this defense.
Speaker 3: So my question to y'all is how difficult is that
Speaker 3: for you know, Mike McCarthy offense that's still I'd say
Speaker 3: we set the standard, but really have to do much
Speaker 3: in week one. So how difficult do you feel like
Speaker 3: it will be for this offense?
Speaker 8: I do think that the Cowboys are better prepared to
Speaker 8: defend against the blitz than the Panthers or I also think, well,
Speaker 8: we all know that Dak Prescott is one of the
Speaker 8: best quarterbacks against the blitz anyway. So with it being that,
Speaker 8: that was like one of the things that stood out
Speaker 8: about how they took advantage of the Panthers. If they
Speaker 8: think they're going to do that again, I think it's
Speaker 8: not going to be nearly as successful because, like I
Speaker 8: think the last time that Zeke was here, like he
Speaker 8: was known for being a good blocker. But this during
Speaker 8: Week one, we saw Zeke picking up blitzes. We saw
Speaker 8: CD do it, we saw Rico Dudel do it. We
Speaker 8: saw instances where there were like three Titans on one
Speaker 8: side of the line who were handling the defense. So
Speaker 8: I feel like they just have so many different ways
Speaker 8: of how they handle that. I just don't see the
Speaker 8: Saints posing as far as that particular part of their defense.
Speaker 8: I don't see it posing as big of an issue.
Speaker 8: So they're definitely going to have to find another way
Speaker 8: to attack the Cowboys and try to take advantage of them.
Speaker 7: For me, that it kind of keys off of you
Speaker 7: have the advantage of getting to work against a Mike
Speaker 7: Zimmer every week as well, because he's also very good
Speaker 7: at window dressing and disguising, especially when it comes to
Speaker 7: the blitz. I was watching online today I saw video
Speaker 7: pop up on my timeline and.
Speaker 5: I wish I remember who posted it. But it's on
Speaker 5: my timeline.
Speaker 7: If you go look and what you see is how
Speaker 7: the linebackers, So you have a demo and and Eric
Speaker 7: Hendricks kind of go up to the line when they
Speaker 7: see the running back, the running back drops forward to
Speaker 7: try to protect to Sean and then they drop back.
Speaker 7: So what you just described is very much so kind
Speaker 7: of up Mike Zimmer's alley anyways. So to have a blitzing,
Speaker 7: you know, defense that that's kind of what they got
Speaker 7: away with last week. That's also what they've kind of
Speaker 7: been practicing against with Mike Zimmer as well. And Mike
Speaker 7: Zimmer can give some great insight to the Cowboys offense
Speaker 7: and kind of how to neutralize that coming from the Saints.
Speaker 8: I'm like, please try it, because yeah, because if Marshaun
Speaker 8: Lattimore is out and you bring a Lonte Taylor down, okay,
Speaker 8: then who's who's gonna be on CDM And if you
Speaker 8: do have somebody on cd LIM, then who's on Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 3: Some points like mess out and find out if you want.
Speaker 8: To right exactly some I'm like, yeah, yeah, absolutely no,
Speaker 8: please try that same game plan again. So I anticipate
Speaker 8: it'll either be a completely different game plan or they're
Speaker 8: just gonna kind of shoot themselves in the foot, because
Speaker 8: that would just with things being as they are right now,
Speaker 8: that would just not be smart on their part.
Speaker 6: I don't think all.
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Speaker 3: Bet so h Cowboys Saints last meeting was in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one. It was December. The Cowboys won that game,
Speaker 3: but that was obviously the Taysom Hill era when he
Speaker 3: was at quarterback. Now he is not Derek Carr.
Speaker 6: Hello.
Speaker 3: But now we're talking Cowboys offense Saints defense today. So
Speaker 3: with a question to y'all, is both teams pretty much
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball, have something to.
Speaker 9: Prove this year.
Speaker 3: When you talk about on this Cowboys offense, they want
Speaker 3: to obviously take it.
Speaker 6: To new levels from last year.
Speaker 3: The Saints defense ninth and scoring defense, but their run
Speaker 3: defense was twenty second in the league in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: So what do y'all think the biggest challenge is for
Speaker 3: i'd say, facing the Saints defense that has so much
Speaker 3: to prove.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's also week two, so I feel.
Speaker 7: Like everybody kind of has something to prove, Like their
Speaker 7: storylines from last year are still leaking into this year
Speaker 7: because there hasn't been time to create new ones, you know.
Speaker 7: So I feel like everybody's kind of on the same
Speaker 7: level at that point. But I think for the Cowboys specifically,
Speaker 7: when you look at what they should prove, not what
Speaker 7: they have to what they need to prove is one
Speaker 7: play up on their strength. I mentioned earlier, start start
Speaker 7: at home with a win. You don't want to start
Speaker 7: because of what they did last year, the record breaking
Speaker 7: home wins. If they lose this game, guess what narrative
Speaker 7: is going to start following.
Speaker 5: Oh, they can't win at home now.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just part of It's just part of it,
Speaker 7: and you guys know that. But overall, I also want
Speaker 7: to continue to see I want to see Mike McCarthy
Speaker 7: progressing as a play caller as well. And I say
Speaker 7: that because the first half of the game last week,
Speaker 7: impeccable phenomenal injected in my veins.
Speaker 5: I want more of that.
Speaker 7: I want I want the balanced run between Rico and Zeke.
Speaker 7: I want the run game to be in the room
Speaker 7: with us.
Speaker 5: If you will want.
Speaker 7: I want more of a balance. I want more distribution
Speaker 7: between your wide receivers. I want your tight ends to
Speaker 7: get involved. That was beautiful during the first half. Second half.
Speaker 5: Third downs? Yeah, girl, what was going on?
Speaker 7: And even Mike talked about that. I had asked him
Speaker 7: about it. What was the biggest difference, and he was like,
Speaker 7: the third downs. I mean, it wasn't happening. Our production
Speaker 7: in the third and third down. Cowboys were four and
Speaker 7: three and third downs throughout that game. So you obviously
Speaker 7: want to see that number go up as well. But
Speaker 7: I just want to continue to see him progressing as
Speaker 7: a play caller consistently throughout the entire game. I don't
Speaker 7: I understand adjustments and you know, in game adjustments, halftime adjustments,
Speaker 7: whatever the case is. I just want to continue to
Speaker 7: see him find what works for this offense to where
Speaker 7: it's a continuously good game.
Speaker 5: You don't have to sit here and say the first
Speaker 5: half was so good, second half wasn't.
Speaker 7: I want a continuously good game throughout the entirety of it.
Speaker 3: That's what I want.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Mike McCarthy has become kind of known for not
Speaker 8: really fully going into the playbook until later in the season,
Speaker 8: so I experienced those same frustrations. But at the same time,
Speaker 8: I was just like, this is what he does is
Speaker 8: we won. We're not going to see the good stuff
Speaker 8: till later. So it's it's whatever. Like they had such
Speaker 8: a big lead, I was like, they probably are just
Speaker 8: gonna play it safe and be conservative, and that's not
Speaker 8: something I would expect him to say out loud, but
Speaker 8: I'm just like, I wouldn't be surprised if that was
Speaker 8: the case.
Speaker 6: They're like, yeah, yeah, we're doing good on third Yeah,
Speaker 6: you're not wrong, You're not wrong.
Speaker 5: I hated that.
Speaker 8: But when it comes to the Saints defense and them
Speaker 8: having something to prove, not only do the players have
Speaker 8: something to prove, because you know, they've it's what been
Speaker 8: three seasons since they've seen the postseason, you know, but
Speaker 8: maybe yeah, either way, it's been.
Speaker 6: At least three, maybe six.
Speaker 8: But not only that, but the defensive coordinator he has
Speaker 8: some things to prove because he had a very unceremonious
Speaker 8: exit from the Browns, and there were there were a
Speaker 8: lot of people who were criticizing the Saints even taking
Speaker 8: him on because they're like, Yo, this guy just got
Speaker 8: fired for inconsistent performances, not being able to show up
Speaker 8: when it mattered in terms of what he put on
Speaker 8: the field, uh, and how how he taught his players
Speaker 8: to approach the game. And now you're going to bring
Speaker 8: him to a team that's already kind of in this
Speaker 8: like weird transition with losing so many of their stars
Speaker 8: and important coaches. So he's kind of at a point
Speaker 8: where his reputation is on the line. So I really
Speaker 8: feel like what we're going to see from the two
Speaker 8: teams is like on the defensive side, I one hundred
Speaker 8: percent expect them to try to pull out all the stops,
Speaker 8: and we know how teams do whenever they face the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: Like some people say, oh, it's their Super Bowl. I'm
Speaker 8: not going to go that far, but it's just like
Speaker 8: they know people are watching, and there are so many
Speaker 8: teams who look completely different than what we see from
Speaker 8: them the rest of the season when they played the Cowboys.
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Speaker 3: Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 4: Sorry with Patrick no c walker.
Speaker 3: He actually we heard from Jake Ferguson today in the
Speaker 3: locker room. But a little quick note from Patrick. He
Speaker 3: said about the mcl sprain that's barely a grade one.
Speaker 3: He asked him about you know, how much are you
Speaker 3: in pain? From a scale one to zero? I mean
Speaker 3: one to ten, and Jake Ferguson said, right now it's
Speaker 3: a zero, So yeah, it's good news. Yeah to hear
Speaker 3: from that.
Speaker 7: I talked to him a little bit too on the
Speaker 7: side and I asked him, you know, kind of what
Speaker 7: the feeling is just sitting there.
Speaker 5: He's like, I mean, right now, don't feel anything.
Speaker 7: When it happened, it was, he said. I explained it
Speaker 7: to the trainers as a weird feeling. He said, I
Speaker 7: don't even know how to explain it because it's something
Speaker 7: I've never dealt with before. He hasn't ever dealt with
Speaker 7: this kind of injury, so he didn't even know how
Speaker 7: to explain kind of what he was feeling. But definitely
Speaker 7: it sounds like he's on the up and up. It's
Speaker 7: just definitely going to be day by day still, which
Speaker 7: you hate to see, you hate to hear, But if
Speaker 7: you're looking for the glass half full, it definitely could.
Speaker 5: Have been a lot worse. And I think initially they
Speaker 5: thought it was if you look.
Speaker 8: At oh my, I was gonna say, like he went
Speaker 8: into a lot of detail with the media about what
Speaker 8: he was feeling, so that'll be something that'll be released later.
Speaker 8: But what the NCL does is it controls stability so
Speaker 8: a lot of times, and I'm not speaking for Ferguson,
Speaker 8: just to be clear, I'm describing what most athletes describe
Speaker 8: when they experience an injury to the NCL. But imagine
Speaker 8: that you're just walking and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 8: your knee just buckles and there's like a sharp pain
Speaker 8: and then you're just like, what was that? Yeah, And
Speaker 8: so that's usually what it feels like for most people.
Speaker 8: And so that's why when you're sitting down, you typically
Speaker 8: won't feel anything. Sometimes you can even walk around and
Speaker 8: you won't feel anything until you step a certain way,
Speaker 8: and then all of a sudden, your knee is like yeah,
Speaker 8: I really need that ligament and it's like, sorry, I
Speaker 8: can't stabilize an ouch pain.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, if we'll say if, because there's no news of
Speaker 3: whether or not Jake Ferguson will play against the Saints
Speaker 3: or not. They're optimistic, so he's going to still be
Speaker 3: working with a return to play group. But with the
Speaker 3: possibility of the Cowboys not having Jake, what kind of
Speaker 3: loss would this be as far as this passing game
Speaker 3: or just in general for this offense.
Speaker 7: I mean, well, now it's really up to Luke's schoonmaker
Speaker 7: to finally take that jump.
Speaker 5: And that's no shade to him.
Speaker 7: It's just you've been waiting for Luke to show out,
Speaker 7: and like, there he is, there's Luke schoon Maker. I
Speaker 7: talked to him a little bit in locker room today
Speaker 7: as well. He did tell me he got a litle
Speaker 7: little bit of extra time with Lunda than he normally would,
Speaker 7: just in case, you know, Jake's not ready to go.
Speaker 7: But overall, I mean, what.
Speaker 5: Impact does it have.
Speaker 7: You're at the point with that tight end room where
Speaker 7: Jake is your only viable, big threat name in that room.
Speaker 5: So one on one.
Speaker 7: Matchups, they're not going to take Luke Schoonmaker seriously. And
Speaker 7: and that's again no shade to him, it's just he
Speaker 7: hasn't I don't want to say he hasn't done much
Speaker 7: to be noticed. He also hasn't had opportunity based on
Speaker 7: the year the tight Ends had overall as a whole
Speaker 7: in general and their their lack of usage. But you're
Speaker 7: also eyeballing if John Stevens Junior can come back the
Speaker 7: status on that. But I thought it was interesting that
Speaker 7: they mentioned Hunter Lipkey, as Mike had mentioned it earlier
Speaker 7: this week, is you know, kind of another option. You
Speaker 7: have Brevan Spanford as well, but Hunter Lipkey kind of
Speaker 7: getting a little bit more involvement there with the tight Ends.
Speaker 5: So it's interesting.
Speaker 7: It definitely shuffles things around and it makes it difficult,
Speaker 7: but these guys have to step up and they have
Speaker 7: to start making names for themselves to be respected across
Speaker 7: this league.
Speaker 5: And that's it's now or ever. If Jake doesn't play.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree with you and I also thought that
Speaker 8: Luke mentioned was interesting, but I think, you know, it
Speaker 8: just kind of depends on how they plan on using
Speaker 8: these guys. But you know, Jake Ferguson was like last year,
Speaker 8: he's one of the favorite targets of Dak, you know,
Speaker 8: and so losing him means that there's space for other
Speaker 8: guys to step up in terms of not only receptions
Speaker 8: but also blocking. And actually, the bit about Schoonmaker, that's
Speaker 8: something that I probably should have mentioned when I was
Speaker 8: talking about the notes from practice, because I did see
Speaker 8: him for a few minutes when he was off to
Speaker 8: the side with Linda Well's. They were working on contact
Speaker 8: and his body positioning and pad level whenever going into contact.
Speaker 8: So looking it looked like they were preparing him for
Speaker 8: how he might need to do certain things in terms
Speaker 8: of carrying the ball. So you know, do with that
Speaker 8: information what you will. So but they were definitely preparing him.
Speaker 8: He definitely had some time to work on his own,
Speaker 8: So yeah, it looks like he's preparing himself to walk
Speaker 8: through that door that you mentioned.
Speaker 3: That's interesting that both of y'all note that Luke Schoonmaker
Speaker 3: was working off to the side with Lunda Wells because
Speaker 3: and this is again no shade to Luke. I have
Speaker 3: never seen him work one on one.
Speaker 5: With It's usually just Jake.
Speaker 3: It's usually just Jake, and that's what set him, separated
Speaker 3: him from the rest of the pack, because he's just
Speaker 3: constantly working. So I love to hear that. You know,
Speaker 3: Luke was obviously getting someone on one work with Lunda.
Speaker 3: And but how do y'all feel as far as Brevin
Speaker 3: spanned Ford, is there any confidence level in him maybe
Speaker 3: being the part the girl, the guy to kind of
Speaker 3: step up.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I talked to him last week because I really was
Speaker 7: hoping the tight Ends would be more involved in the
Speaker 7: red zone than they were last week.
Speaker 5: And what I feel like from Brevin is.
Speaker 7: Very much reminiscent to how I feel like Luke felt
Speaker 7: last year, you know, kind of still trying to find
Speaker 7: his footing, trying to find his place in this tight
Speaker 7: end room. But I feel like the confidence is growing
Speaker 7: for him, and it's he's one of those players that
Speaker 7: it takes one good play to get that going very
Speaker 7: much so Hunter lipkis last year of having just that
Speaker 7: one good play and it kind of jump starts you.
Speaker 7: But the big body tight end thing, I mean he's
Speaker 7: obviously he was somebody that stood out last year when
Speaker 7: we were talking about it on here, and you can
Speaker 7: use him to your advantage. I mean, you really, Dak
Speaker 7: has so many shiny toys he can play with, like
Speaker 7: in this tight end room that I think that's why
Speaker 7: I get so frustrated, because you have a big body,
Speaker 7: tight end that is hard to go on one on
Speaker 7: one matchups with, especially when you're gonna play the Saints,
Speaker 7: who are key on this man coverage that I was
Speaker 7: kind of watching earlier. So I think, again, if John
Speaker 7: Stevens can't go in, if Jake can't go, it's time.
Speaker 5: It's time for you guys to make names for yourselves.
Speaker 5: In week two, I think is the perfect time to
Speaker 5: do it. Yeah, it's a long season, do it now.
Speaker 8: I think if his number gets called, he'll be ready.
Speaker 8: I think he, like you said, hasn't had a lot
Speaker 8: of opportunity to show what he can do in the preseason.
Speaker 8: You know, obviously he's going through training camp. But when
Speaker 8: it came to those preseason games, it just kind of
Speaker 8: felt like the Titans didn't have the spotlight on them
Speaker 8: very much. In general, they just weren't use Trey Lance
Speaker 8: wasn't using Titans the same way that Dak Prescott typically
Speaker 8: uses his tight ends. And so I think now that
Speaker 8: he's getting some time on the field and figuring out
Speaker 8: where he fits in with the rest of this offense,
Speaker 8: and obviously the decision makers for the offense are figuring
Speaker 8: out what he's good at and how to use him.
Speaker 8: I think we'll see him show up a lot more
Speaker 8: as the season goes. So I haven't seen anything from
Speaker 8: him that would make me doubt him, that would make
Speaker 8: me be like, yeah, nah, he's not the one to
Speaker 8: depend on. But I do think that he just needs
Speaker 8: some more opportunities.
Speaker 7: And to that point too, you have to remember all
Speaker 7: summer they were kind of deciding how they were going
Speaker 7: to go about using Payton Hendershot or if they were
Speaker 7: going to use him, So that pushed him either even
Speaker 7: further back. So now, like you're mentioning Jess, he has
Speaker 7: an opportunity to kind of step forward without anybody ahead
Speaker 7: of him.
Speaker 5: Really, So we'll see.
Speaker 7: But yeah, he's I mean his college tape, I'm telling you,
Speaker 7: I remember when we were watching it back.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness. He's an exciting player if you can
Speaker 5: get him going. But we'll see, we'll.
Speaker 3: See how should the Cowboys attack the Saints defense.
Speaker 8: I mean, the first thing that stands out is that
Speaker 8: twenty second run defense. You know, there's no indication that
Speaker 8: that will have necessarily improved. So I would say, like,
Speaker 8: we did pretty well with the run game last week
Speaker 8: in terms of yards per carry, So I would say,
Speaker 8: like keep that going, like, let's improve upon that, and
Speaker 8: let's keep using that. I also think that you know,
Speaker 8: if if they do end up trying to like use
Speaker 8: that blitz, those blitz options that they use against the Panthers,
Speaker 8: Dak Prescott has gotten really good at getting the ball
Speaker 8: out quick, and so if they're blitzing, then you know,
Speaker 8: one of your receiver weapons is uncovered. So I can
Speaker 8: definitely see the Cowboys taking advantage of that and just
Speaker 8: be like, oh, all of y'all are up here.
Speaker 6: Then okay, who's back there?
Speaker 8: Then I need to get this ball to I think
Speaker 8: the Saints are in a position where they're really gonna
Speaker 8: have to pick their poison, and I think whatever they pick,
Speaker 8: the Cowboys are in a position to attack the opposite thing.
Speaker 8: It's like, okay, so you've got everybody covered, all right, Well,
Speaker 8: then we can run the ball because we know you're
Speaker 8: not great at defending that. Okay, you're gonna blitz all right,
Speaker 8: Well I'm just gonna, you know, make this play happen
Speaker 8: behind you.
Speaker 4: You're good. And that's exactly what happened with that Brandon
Speaker 4: Cooks touchdown. Yeah, so we love to see that.
Speaker 3: But I'm sorry, keep going. No, I I was like, sorry,
Speaker 3: I didn't know if you were going to talk about
Speaker 3: go ahead good.
Speaker 5: Oh I thought you were.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 7: No, it's okay, No, I mean to piggyback off of
Speaker 7: that too.
Speaker 5: Just having sorry watching the Eagles and the.
Speaker 6: Packers.
Speaker 5: Gross, Sorry, I'm so salty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine. We gotta we gotta just wipe it away,
Speaker 3: you know, just act like it didn't happen.
Speaker 5: The generational trauma. Girl, you're talking to a millennial.
Speaker 3: Oh goodness, all.
Speaker 5: Right, So.
Speaker 7: What I will say, And to add on to Jazz's
Speaker 7: point about their blitz packages, yeah, that that was what
Speaker 7: won them the game. And you know, to be fair,
Speaker 7: I think as far as the Cowboys go, you look
Speaker 7: at the Saints and Panthers game last week. Some notes
Speaker 7: I put, uh, they scored on nine. Can the Saints
Speaker 7: offense scored on nine consecutive consecutive offensive plays, five touchdowns.
Speaker 5: Four field goals.
Speaker 7: So I know we're talking about, you know, Cowboys offense,
Speaker 7: but overall, you need to be scoring points too.
Speaker 5: You need to be better in the red zone.
Speaker 7: Yes, we love a good Brandon Aubrey possible seventy yardfield
Speaker 7: goal kick.
Speaker 5: We love that, and that's great for him.
Speaker 7: I don't want to see Brandon Aubrey as much in
Speaker 7: this game, genuinely, and that's you need to start capitalizing
Speaker 7: in the red zone. And you know, we always go
Speaker 7: back to this conversation. You cannot keep relying on Brandon
Speaker 7: Aubrey to get you points on the board over and
Speaker 7: over and over again. Because what the Saints showed last.
Speaker 5: Week, given it was the Panthers, I know.
Speaker 7: Is that they can put together scoring drives nine consecutive
Speaker 7: in a game.
Speaker 5: That's crazy, and that was to open the game. The defense.
Speaker 7: Last week, the Saints defense gave up one hundred and
Speaker 7: ninety three total yards forced three turnovers.
Speaker 5: Overall, I mean, the Panther struggled with a run game.
Speaker 7: To your point, Jazz, So I think if you want
Speaker 7: to find a strengthen this, it's getting ahead early.
Speaker 5: And I just feel like, whoever gets hot.
Speaker 7: First is going to carry the momentum throughout the game.
Speaker 7: And guess where that starts. To special teams if you
Speaker 7: have a Cavante Turpin giving you goodfield position, which we
Speaker 7: talked to.
Speaker 5: Him in the long room today. He tells us he said, yeah,
Speaker 5: I went to the sideline. I told him they better
Speaker 5: stop kicking to me. Take much to the house.
Speaker 4: He's sick.
Speaker 5: But overall, put yourself up in a position way.
Speaker 7: And I know that sounds so simple, but again, goodfield position.
Speaker 5: Score.
Speaker 7: Do not rely on Brandon Auber here, because this team
Speaker 7: shows you they know how to put together a scoring drive.
Speaker 3: Eighteen of the Cowboys thirty three points. We're special teams points.
Speaker 3: Don't think I want to see that.
Speaker 5: It's great, it's great, but but you want to see
Speaker 5: offensive points.
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Speaker 3: Which Saints defensive defensive position group possesses the biggest threat
Speaker 3: to this Cowboys offense?
Speaker 6: That is such a good question.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the cornerbacks. You have a triple
Speaker 5: threat here, and.
Speaker 7: I'm only saying that because it's gonna be a lot
Speaker 7: one on one matchups, which, like you know, Ceedee Lamb loves.
Speaker 7: But again, I'm gonna go with the corner because the
Speaker 7: matchups there are.
Speaker 5: Just fun to watch. In general.
Speaker 7: You have Paulson a debo, he's all of them great
Speaker 7: on man coverage. Marshaun Latimore, which we don't know yet,
Speaker 7: could be a game changer, like you're saying, if he
Speaker 7: doesn't play Alante Taylor.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Out of out of all of the the DB's on
Speaker 7: the Saints last week, he allowed the most of eighty
Speaker 7: four yards.
Speaker 5: Just let that sink in.
Speaker 7: That was the most yardage that a dB for the
Speaker 7: Saints allowed last week. Only eighty four yards, which which
Speaker 7: is crazy. So for me, when you're looking at Alante
Speaker 7: Taylor and Cdie Lamb, that's one of my most fun
Speaker 7: matchups that I want to watch this week. But I'm
Speaker 7: gonna say your triple threat there, uh with their with
Speaker 7: their cornerback room. Obviously it helps when you have a
Speaker 7: CD Lamb and you have a Brandon Cooks, but I
Speaker 7: still think you're kind of determining who your wide receiver
Speaker 7: three officially is as well, So it could be a
Speaker 7: good week for some Jalen Tolbert action maybe some Jalen
Speaker 7: Brooks as well.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm gonna go with that.
Speaker 3: What stood out to me about Alante Taylor was his speed,
Speaker 3: Like when he's on, he can stay with any receiver,
Speaker 3: but he also gives up a lot of big plays,
Speaker 3: so it could be an advantage for CD Lamb. But
Speaker 3: go ahead, my bet, go ahead.
Speaker 8: So fun fact, Alonta Taylor actually started off as a
Speaker 8: wide receiver and converted to corner, so I think in
Speaker 8: some ways they're still moving him around and just like
Speaker 8: kind of using him as a weapon in general, and
Speaker 8: that's why we saw him. He broke a record for
Speaker 8: SAX for a cornerback, which is crazy, like to be
Speaker 8: a cornerback with three sacks, right, But the question mark
Speaker 8: surrounding Marshaun Latimore is why I was hesitant to say
Speaker 8: corners because when I think about what they did against
Speaker 8: the Panthers, like, yeah, it makes me want to want
Speaker 8: to name that position group, right, But I just feel
Speaker 8: like if Marshawn Lattimore isn't there, and then you've got
Speaker 8: two rookies on the depth chart, there's just not enough
Speaker 8: of a Lante Taylor to go around to actually handle
Speaker 8: what the Cowboys are going to throw with them. Literally,
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Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 8: So then my mind, I'm gonna be honest after that,
Speaker 8: me being like growing up in Louisiana, my mind went
Speaker 8: through the Mario Davis and the linebacker group, so that
Speaker 8: that would be my second option.
Speaker 6: If not the corners, then the linebackers just.
Speaker 8: Because they're they're so fierce, they're so aggressive, they love
Speaker 8: playing physical, and it's like they're they're very adaptive.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 8: The Mario Davis was actually talking about the matchup against
Speaker 8: the Cowboys, and of course he was asked, you know
Speaker 8: what's going to be the same or what's going to
Speaker 8: be different from the last time he faced them, and
Speaker 8: he described their defense as a Madden game that gets
Speaker 8: updates every year and so and he said, yeah, so
Speaker 8: if you if you try to go by the old
Speaker 8: footage or even my old tendencies, you know, it might
Speaker 8: mislead you a little bit. And so they've they've just
Speaker 8: become very adaptive in the last couple of to where
Speaker 8: they are very good at just kind of being what
Speaker 8: the team needs them to be in terms of what
Speaker 8: they what they do as a linebacker corps.
Speaker 6: So good on.
Speaker 3: Fun note note about Tomorrow Davis. He had six straight
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Speaker 3: fifteen pressures, twelve tackles for loss, and two forced fumbles
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, So.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely a big game changer.
Speaker 3: He was a beast that linebacker corps with even Willie Gay,
Speaker 3: I don't know if he will play or not because
Speaker 3: he was listed on this.
Speaker 4: Report, so that's a little questionable as well.
Speaker 3: But a lot of things to watch for in this
Speaker 3: Cowboys matchup on Sunday.
Speaker 4: So looking forward to what matchup? Are you looking forward to?
Speaker 3: The most real quick before we wrap.
Speaker 5: Things up Seedy Lamb and Alante.
Speaker 8: I was about to say, I want to see how
Speaker 8: they handle Seedy Lamb. I'm expecting it to be Alante Taylor,
Speaker 8: unless Marshon Lattimore does end up playing, but yeah, I
Speaker 8: want to see how they how they handle Seedy Lamb.
Speaker 8: So whoever ends up on him, that's when I'm going
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