1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Hey, Ken, did you know that gold is the only 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: currency that's held its value since the dawn of money? 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Well I did, thanks to our friends at Legacy Precious Metals, 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: the most trusted name in gold investing. Investing in gold 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: protects you against inflation and gives you a hedge against 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: stock market volatility. Don't leave your retirement to chance. Call 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: Legacy Precious Metals today at eight six six six nine 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: one two one seven three, or download your free Investor's 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: guide now at by Legacy goold dot com. That's buy 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Legacy goold dot com. This week at Safeway, enjoy big 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: savings with the Bogo Sail, where select items throughout the 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: store are buy one, get one free. With this week's 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: Bogo Sail, gets select meets like Signature Farms, ninety percent 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: lean ground beef or bowless skinless chicken breasts or thighs. 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Buy one, get one free, plus select fresh produce items 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: like one pound containers of sweet strawberries or containers of 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: blueberries or buy one get one free Safeway. Come in 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: and explore and see what other deals you can find. 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to start the show today. You know 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: why why I don't have to do anything. I'm just 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: gonna listen. You know why I'm going to listen because 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: the subject is the Griffith Park pony rides are closing 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: after seventy four years. On one side, Deborah Mark. On 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: the other, John Cobell, don't get me started. We have 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: more information than we had yesterday when this started to happen, 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: and not convincing information to close down the pony rides. Deborah, Well, 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: we heard that four ponies or horses died, right, yeah, 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: and the information was not given to the appropriate people. 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 1: So that was one of the reasons why the city 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: decided not to re sign. And missing ponies, Oh yeah. 31 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: The report is four ponies died and six were placed 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: in other facilities, but the city did not get any 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: information till months after the ponies deaths. But that's no 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: evidence based on medical records. None of them died from neglect. 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: In fact, they ride said it happens diseases like colic. 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: They sent two inspections, two inspectors because over the last year, 37 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: those animal rights vermin were picketing. Yeah, they were showing 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: up and yelling at people, at parents and children because 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: they're they're despicable people. And they said the animals were 40 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: neglected and forced to work during heat waves and not 41 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: given enough breaks. So the city hired a veterinarian to 42 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: examine the animals and they were living conditions. They visited 43 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: the site in December twenty twenty one, and in January 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: and in September, and they found the first two inspections 45 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: did not show any outright signs of neglect or animal abuse. 46 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: Some animals were in need of help for saddle sores 47 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: as well as hoof and dental care and to doctor 48 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: Cunning and they saddle sores. That's not comfortable, bull, That's right. 49 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: There'd be no saddlestors if they hadn't had people on 50 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: them exactly, and they should be attended to. But it 51 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to shut down the pony rides 52 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: for all the children. It means you have to attend 53 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: to the saddle stores. There shouldn't be a death penalty 54 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: for everything, for every mistake, every oversight, every time. Maybe 55 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: the guys run short of money. Are the ponies paid 56 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: for this? I mean they're slaves. They are not paid. 57 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: They have no choice. They are Another said, get room 58 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: and board and board somewhere, and who are we supposed 59 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: to pay you pay, Well, the pony gets paid and 60 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: decides what he wants to do with the money. Wants 61 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: to bet it at the at the track or whatever 62 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: he wants to do. Now, they they during the most 63 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: recent inspection, they found ten ponies were missing from the 64 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: last visit, four had died, six had been placed in 65 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: other facilities. Yeah, well they're supposed to report that. Well, 66 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: because that's part of it. You see the reason the 67 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: city has Griffith Park. This is a this is a 68 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: public place, so the city has to license this. So 69 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: that's why the government's involved. Even though John hates the government, 70 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: of course I hate the government. This is a city park, 71 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: so it's not like this guy's on some private land 72 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: doing this. So all all right, but what so? But 73 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: what I guess he's subject to inspections and he's subject 74 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: to reporting the condition of the ponies, and he did 75 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: not do that. But you show you shut down the 76 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: business for a paperwork error. Is that the standard? No, 77 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: that's not the standard. No, the implication is something to 78 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: ferry has happened. Do you think do you think contractors 79 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: are contribute to he didn't want to report the deaths? 80 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: What was he hiding? As you like to say, well, 81 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: we could find that out, though, Why don't we find 82 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: that out before we close them down? They just didn't 83 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: renew the licenses. What happened? Do you think? Do you 84 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: think the contractors are contribute to Garcetti's campaigns are shut 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: down because of paperwork violations? Oh, it's it puts the 86 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: death of animals. It's not paperwork violations, but the death 87 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: of the animals that are involved in this. But unless 88 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: diversil thing, unless the animals were mistreated in a way 89 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: that led to their deaths, it is just a paperwork violation. 90 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: There's two separate things here. What happened to the horses? 91 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: And then was it reported properly? We don't know that 92 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: that he did anything that led to the pony's deaths 93 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: months later? How do we know what? You have to 94 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: exhume them? Where'd they go? Well? Yeah, do autopsies? Yeah yeah, 95 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: limunt the animal writes wackos. Do something useful as uh, 96 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: you stand up in your heckling children. Yeah, you're you're insane. 97 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: You got to be locked up. You wouldn't do that, 98 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: Oh I would not, all right, That's why I said 99 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: not all all right, not you, but but but but 100 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: this crowd. Uh, it's this crowd that goes, you know, 101 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: throws a oil on paintings, and they go to restaurants 102 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: and disrupt people's dinners. Yeah that's not cool. Yeah, all 103 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: these virtue signaling pathetic jackasses, and and all it is 104 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: is drawing attention to themselves because they have miserable, empty lives. 105 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: So they're on stage now and they're showing off and 106 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: they're becoming important and they're saving the world, just full 107 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: of their own egos. In a written statement to The Times, 108 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: the agency said it based its decision on the findings 109 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: from the veterinary reports and lack of transparency, communication and 110 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,559 Speaker 1: limited veterinary documentation on the dead animals from the Pony 111 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: Right operators. The agency was not comfortable exercising a second 112 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: contract extension with the operator. You know what it is, 113 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: the activists control City Hall and all the agencies. That's 114 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: why you have a seventy thousand homeless people in the street. 115 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: They're terror they're all terrified of the activists. So when 116 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: they make enough noise, just demonstrations, screaming, yelling, then the 117 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: cowards at City Hall cave in. You could actually find 118 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: out what happened to the four horses. I mean mysteriously 119 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: now that the four died, I don't want to think 120 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: the guy killed him. Well, okay, it was reported late 121 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: because he probably knew he was already under pressure from 122 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: the animal rights people, so he didn't want to create 123 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: another firestorm. Eventually, you have to tell it doesn't mean 124 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: he killed them. What nobody said killed them? Well, that 125 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: would be the only reason for mister jump to conclusion. 126 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, that is the conclusion, because that'd 127 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: be the only reason to shut him down. You're not 128 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: meaning literally killed if you just mean neglect abuse. Yeah, yeah, 129 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: but his actions killed him. His neglect and abuse or 130 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 1: are intentional actions? They are or they aren't. Some guys 131 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: just don't care. They just running a business and they 132 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: don't really give a crap about animals. Yeah, but he's 133 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: They don't want to kill them because that ends they 134 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: need the ponies for the business, so it wouldn't make 135 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: sense we need to purposely lead them to death. But 136 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: there are guys that just don't now. This guy that 137 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: runs it and has running for four years. His name 138 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: is Stephen Weeks. He bought the business a few years back, 139 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: and uh, he insists he takes really good care of them. 140 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: And now Deborah Mark, they need homes for thirty ponies 141 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: thin Blue Factory. No, I'm sure there are plenty of 142 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: people in hidden hills maybe that that are looking for 143 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: ponies for their kids, other places, other rule places. I 144 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: don't like how you offer other people's homes. Well, I 145 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: don't have. She doesn't have a farm. I don't. I 146 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: don't have. I don't have a big yard. That's why 147 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: I only have two ls. Well, there are sanctuaries they 148 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: must be and maybe one pony. You can take it. 149 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: I wish I could. No, I seriously, you have to 150 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: come to my house and I'll show you. There's no 151 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: frigging way, no place for a pony. I love ponies, Okay, 152 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: but I guarantee see if the word got out, people 153 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: would be lining up to take the ponies, especially if 154 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: they're free. Well, the word putting the word out, this 155 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: guy is actually it's the first part of the story. 156 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: Here Weeks is saying I need a home for these 157 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: thirty ponies. This thing is shutting down in a couple 158 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: of weeks. It hasn't been that public. Well, I don't know. 159 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: Maybe now, well the story just broke, But they're going 160 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: to shut down by December twenty. First, my son's when 161 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: they were small, got a lot of pleasure out of 162 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: the Griffith Parker. Then why don't you go get the ponies. 163 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have a huge backyard and you love 164 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: animals too, and you have a lot, so why don't 165 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: you go grab the place. This is about the business 166 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: providing the pleasure to all the little kids who came 167 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: out on a Sunday morning. There was nothing better. It's 168 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: nothing better than going for John. Sorry, you're nostalgia. You 169 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: gotta just move get so cold. It's done. There's nothing 170 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: more to it except these ponies need home. So this 171 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: is your chance to step up and bring a pony home. 172 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: Your grand children when you have them can if they 173 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: just get taken to another pony ride place, that would 174 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: be kind of yeah this sh I hope, I hope 175 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: there's another company. There might be someplace. I don't there's 176 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: another guy who brand I mean, if seventy four years 177 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: since nineteen forty eight, if one of it was one 178 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: of the most fun things that we used to do 179 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: when the boys were small, Okay, full disclosure. I did 180 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: take my kids to ride ponies. I did, but if 181 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: the ponies are not being treated well, then I think 182 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. But yet, what well when you went, 183 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: did you have any suspicion that the ponies were No, 184 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: that was many many years ago, and it was Griffith 185 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: Park and it was another place too in the valley. 186 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: But no, But I always felt bad for them. I 187 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: always did. Just like Ken said last night, you know, 188 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: they either kind of their heads are kind of drooping. 189 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't think they're that happy. I think they're bored. 190 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if they really went around and around. 191 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: It's like when you go to New York City and 192 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: you see the carriage rides in Central Park. The horses 193 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: do effect they're ready to collapse one of them. Did 194 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: any of that happened from time to time? Yeah, no, 195 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: I hate that. I will never ever, ever ever do that. Well, John, 196 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: your favorite council members were behind this. Oh, I noticed 197 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: Niffia Raman, Paul Carrets, and Bob Bloomin Correts, who apparently thinks, 198 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, the ponies have to be protected, but not 199 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: young women in furniture stores. It wasn't Paul Correts not 200 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: doing much for the poor animal shelters of LA. Remember 201 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: that months back Yeah, talked to Daniel Guss. They were 202 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: not getting enough water and food, and a lot weren't 203 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: getting adopted because Gus says that there was some kind 204 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: of million dollar fund that has disappeared in his and 205 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: a whole lot of money. Correts should be asked questions 206 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: about that. Nitthi Rahman is just a total loss, just 207 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: a complete loss. We got more coming up, Johnny. The 208 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: least of the problems with her AM six forty live 209 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: everywhere the iHeartRadio doesn't care people are dying in the streets. 210 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: After three o'clock we'll get too. Obviously, the big story 211 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: of the day you ass end the world, and that 212 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: was the prisoner swap to get home the WNBA player 213 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: Britney Griner out of Russia after so many months. If 214 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: she was nabbed in February, I think right before the 215 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: invasion of Ukraine. Boy, wait till you hear the guy 216 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: that she was traded for, Victor Boot one of the 217 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: worst human beings on earth, the merchant of Death. Yea, 218 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: the merchant of death. Imagine what you have to do 219 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: to get that nickname. All right, I'll get it to this. 220 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: We'll be talking to Brad Gareth MAYBC news about it 221 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: too in the three o'clock hour. That's anything right now. 222 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: If you click on the New York Times website, it's blank. 223 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: There's no news. Oh is it? Oh? I got have 224 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: seen this. I'll enjoy that. I'm kidding, but oh, I'm kidding. 225 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: I made the joke because more than one thousand staffers 226 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: have walked off the job. It's a it's a one 227 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: day walkout, which is kind of odd. Did you did 228 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: you see um? Did Derek scar our board apps send 229 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: you the photo and the video too? Yeah? Yeah he was. 230 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: He's in New York City with some iHeart event, right, 231 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: and he happened to randomly walk into the protest. Not 232 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: exactly like a Teamsters walkout, was it? No? No, they're 233 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: they're they're they're fighting over, among other things, having to 234 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: show up at work. Is that right? They want to 235 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: work remotely? Yeah? Oh okay, So these are a lot 236 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: of these are reporters, it says, reporters, editors and photographers. 237 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: It's a thousand people. It's like everybody who works in 238 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: a newsroom, the New York News kill. It's like, yeah, 239 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: they were shouting, we want to stay home, we want 240 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: to stay home. Well, They literally were shouting that that 241 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: part's a joke. Now we both got each other, didn't 242 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: we What kind of show is this? Now we're just 243 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: trying to prank each other with the joke headlines. It 244 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: means we're bored. Come on, people count on us for information. 245 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: Jokes are fun too, it says. The Times website, though, 246 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: is being updated by a barebone staff of editors, who did, 247 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: of course, post the story about Brittany Griner. You got 248 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: to have that one. I don't go through the website 249 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: in detail, so I don't know if there's anything skimpy 250 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: in there today. The New York Post likes to take 251 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: its jabs. Two prominent Times reporters have refused to take 252 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 1: part in the twenty four hour work stoppage. One is 253 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: Peter Baker, the chief White House correspond and another one's 254 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: Michael Sheer, a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter who covers the 255 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: White House. One of them apparently had trouble. Oh yeah, Sheer. 256 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: He signed a letter protesting a rays and union dudes 257 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: from members earning more than a hundred and forty thousand 258 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: dollars a year. He didn't like that, so he could 259 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: have like a personal problem with the union over them 260 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: charging too much dues and to say I'm not gonna 261 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: be a part of this silliness. Well, I mean all 262 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: the you know, most of the staff are now progressive Wieners, 263 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: So of course they're going to complain and whine. I know, 264 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, of course they feel unloved and neglected. Oh, 265 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: it's like we used to get trophies all the time 266 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: as children, and now you make a show up at work. 267 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,359 Speaker 1: I can't show up at work. I might catch somebody's cooties. 268 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: Where'd you hear that? Because it says in this story 269 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: it's raises and health and pension benefits. Oh it was 270 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: no I read the story. It's uh, is that really 271 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: a y sticking point? But well it's on the list 272 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: that I mean, reporters have to go with the story 273 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: is why do they need to be in the building anyway? 274 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: If you're a reporter, it's like you say, at kfive 275 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: salespeople have to be out there selling. They should. It's 276 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: all the other staff they want remote, they want remote. Oh. 277 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: The sides are also far apart on issue as remote 278 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: work policies in the company's employee evaluation system. That's funny. Oh, 279 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: in other words, you're going to be evaluated as to 280 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: whether you do a good job or not. So no, 281 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: we can't have that. You're judging me, jud don't judge me. 282 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: Don't make me get dressed and go to work, and 283 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: when I do come to work, do not judge me. 284 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: Says here that The Times has actually grown at subscriber 285 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: base in recent years and had an operating profit between 286 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty and three hundred and thirty million. 287 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: That's last year. That's why they went all woke because 288 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: I love what you sent me today. Web news race 289 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: November twenty two page views and the New York Times 290 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: is first. That number is really a billion huh one billion, 291 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: nine thirty one million, one hundred and five thousand page 292 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: views in November for The New York Times and the 293 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: way John sent this email today. You noticed who's not 294 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: on this list? That would be the La Times nowhere here, Yeah, 295 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: it's about it's about twenty five media sites are on 296 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: the list, and La Times does not appear. No, does 297 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: not appear, because I think the Curious CNN was actually second, 298 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: right New York Times. There was a billion nine hundred 299 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: million plus CNN a billion, seven hundred million, Google News 300 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: a billion, almost five hundred million. Then Fox News, Washington 301 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: Posts on the list, New York Post, Wall Streets, big 302 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: drop off though after Fox News to get down to Yahoo, 303 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: it drops by half. Did you notice that? Yeah? I 304 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: saw that. I saw that. The big the big four 305 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: over a billion are New York Times, CNN, Google News, 306 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: and Fox News. Yeah, but what's funny? No else a 307 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: goundo Times. Now, there was no San Francisco Chronicle or 308 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: Chicago paper either. But Citizen Free Press is up there. Yeah, 309 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: some of these I don't know. I've never heard of 310 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: Citizen Free Press. I've heard of zero Heads that's up here. Yeah, 311 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: I've heard of Ross Story, Daily Wirey I've heard of. 312 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the only one the list I've never 313 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: heard of. Then how they look at the list together? 314 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: A USA Today's on let me see what it is? 315 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: Because the Washington Post is there, but the Times, no, 316 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: And the LA Times is much bigger market than San 317 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: Francisco or Chicago. And it is, but I'm just trying 318 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: to make a metro comparison. You used to be listed. Oh, 319 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: LA is much bigger than the problem with the La 320 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: Times is there? See the New York Times is considered international. 321 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: People know it all over the country and all over 322 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: the world, and they don't know the La Times as much. 323 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: So that's gonna hurt your page. Let me see. Oh well, 324 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: Citizen Free Press looks like it's a drudge knockoff. The 325 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: format is similar and h it's a lot of politics 326 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: and a lot of right wing stuff. Oh well, that 327 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: explains the list is like one of the the one 328 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: of the top links is watch live Steve Bannon war Room. 329 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: Oh boy, still following him? All right, we got more 330 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: coming up. John and k I am six forty live 331 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: everywhere the iHeartRadio app. It was a long rumored prisoner swap. 332 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: We can talk about it like a baseball trade. The 333 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: w NBA star Britney Griner has been released. He's coming 334 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: back to the United States and in return, the Russians 335 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: get back an arms dealer. Not just any arms dealer, 336 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: pretty nasty one. He is particularly a depth at selling 337 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: weapons to kill Americans. He yes, there's a lot of 338 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: dead Americans because of Victor Bout and so that there's 339 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: probably everybody who cares is happy that Britney Griner is 340 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: coming back. But this trade, if you could see the 341 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: victims of Victor Bout and all the weaponry and ammunition 342 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: that he sold every rebel group, every warlord all over 343 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: the all of the world. If you could see the 344 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: victims might give you, might make you feel queasy that 345 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: he was the one traded for Britney Griner. Questions also 346 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 1: being raised as to why another American being held, Paul Whalen, 347 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: has not been got back on a trade. So we'll 348 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: talk about all this in the three o'clock hour on 349 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: the John and Ken Show. Well, we had a tradition 350 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: that goes back years. John, remember at some point when 351 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: we decided that a jury was taken too long, we'd 352 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: name a vegetable after them. Yeah, we're this Weinstein jury 353 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: is getting close to vegetable status. Broccoli is what we 354 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: called the jury and the David Westerfield trial. In fact, 355 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: we took broccoli down to San Diego and the judge 356 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: was unhappy. There's two guys doing a radio show out 357 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: in the street corner holding up broccoli. They're making a 358 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: mockery of the system. Yeah, he thought we were almost 359 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: jury tampering or something. I don't know. That's what I 360 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: always wanted to do, you did, I always wanted to 361 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: be sanctioned for jury tampering. Yes, yeah, so we used broccoli. 362 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: What is jury tampering? Telling the truth in public is 363 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: that jury tampering. They did take a while, but they 364 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: did find him guilty and he is. He ended up 365 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: on death row, which means nothing in golf. But it 366 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: should have taken like eleven minutes, not eleven days. Yeah, 367 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't think there was much doubt about that man 368 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: that was the killer. By the way of Danielle van 369 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: Dam I always the second time we talked about that 370 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: guy in the last week or two him well, the 371 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: twentieth anniversary was now that was two thousand and two, 372 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: and plus you mentioned regards to the Idaho murders because 373 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: you thought the similarity was a lot of people maybe 374 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: in and out of the house, because the right house 375 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: is a party house, right right, exactly, So that's why 376 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: it came up. There could be a wide range of suspects, 377 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: all right, So I looked this up. Now they're in 378 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: their fifth day of deliberations. In case you don't know, 379 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein. The jury is deciding whether or not to 380 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: find him guilty on a number of charges dealing with 381 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: the sexual assault of a bunch of women. Four main 382 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: women are the plaintiffs, and then there was a couple 383 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: of other women who testified as a sort of pattern 384 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: behavior witnesses. Four of the eleven charges originally against Weinstein 385 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: tied to one of the Jane Does was dropped without explanation. 386 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: But I think that's because she just backed out. That 387 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: was Jane Doe number five. Yeah, she did back out. 388 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: She never testified, so they dropped the charges. So of 389 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: course we know who Jane Doe number four is. That 390 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: Scavin Newsom's wife. So since two of the witnesses were 391 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: pattern of behavior witnesses, these charges are on the two 392 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: remaining women. No no, no, no, no, No four, Jane Does, 393 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 1: all of them accusing of sex assault. There were two 394 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: or three other witnesses. There was extra who are not 395 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: referred to as Jane Doe who actually went by their names. 396 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: They got up there and they were the pattern of 397 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: behavior right here. So here's what I'm wondering. I mean, 398 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: is is there just as four main accusers in the charge, 399 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: is there a problem with the whole concept of whether 400 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: Weinstein really four sex on these women, or is there 401 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: a particular case that they're hung up on, or maybe 402 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: two of the cases. I just wonder how many how 403 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: many of the four cases have been settled? Oh, I see, 404 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, because you could see privately settled or something. 405 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no no, settled by the jury. They've come 406 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: to a decision. Oh, I see, concerning for some of 407 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: the accusers, but not all of them. Right, exactly are 408 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: they hung up in one particular case or is it 409 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: the whole concept? They don't think these women were necessarily forced. 410 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: That's I here's something I just want to say first, 411 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: because I looked it up. He was convicted in New 412 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: York State a few years back. It did take them 413 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: twenty six hours right now, when this jury walked into 414 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: the jury room today, they were at fifteen and a 415 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: half So they have not passed the New York jury. 416 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: Not that that they're not working very long each day. 417 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: They're not. That's a lazy schedule. Fifteen and a half 418 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: hours if you consider they're there usually. I think they're 419 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: only there until like three or fifteen and a half hour, 420 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: and then they get lunch breaks and all that stuff. 421 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: Wait a second, we're talking about the Weinstein case. The 422 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: whole world knows what went on. You need fifteen and 423 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: a half hours to figure this out. Well, the concept 424 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: of transactional sex, it's pretty easy to lay out. You 425 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: have sex with me, I gave you a role in 426 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: a movie, right, did that happen? Or no? Or you 427 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: don't give me sex, you never work again. So what 428 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: are you trying to say that they're not picking up 429 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: on SEPs or they should be finding him guilty in 430 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: three minutes. I'm not they they should find him guilty 431 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: in three minutes. I think it's clear this is what 432 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: his life was about. I don't think anyone on the 433 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: jury didn't know who Weinstein was and what he did 434 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: and what he was convicted of. Right, So this is 435 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: just more of the same. You know, you could probably 436 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: have seventeen other women come up tomorrow, right, So this 437 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: was an endless parade of women that he sexually abused 438 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: and attacked and all that. I do think though, it 439 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: is easy for some people to say yes, or you 440 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: just didn't get the career you wanted, so now this 441 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: is your chance to lashback at Weinstein and to blame 442 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: him for your failures. They were only to get possibilities, 443 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: and we got to because they're only deciding this john 444 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: on these four women. They're supposed to disregard the New 445 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: York decision. Right, Oh yeah, but you can't. Well, how 446 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: do you know that jury isn't this bunch of stooges, right, 447 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: you have to do things on your own. They could, Yeah, 448 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: but there's no doubt what Weinstein is Well, either the 449 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: women never even had these encounters, that they're making this up, 450 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: or they were sexually assaulted, or the third one, which 451 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: is what the prosecution right is basically providing. I'm sorry. 452 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: The defense is that they knew they were doing this 453 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: to maybe get that help in the business. That's the 454 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: sticking point. And you don't what the toughest question for 455 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: these victims to answer among regular people who are not 456 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: in the Hollywood business is why the hell would you 457 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: go alone into a hotel room with Harvey Weinstein? Were 458 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: you really shocked when he grabbed you? And but back 459 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: in two thousand and four, was that well known in 460 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: the industry? It was, Yeah, But some of these women 461 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: are trying to make their way up. He picks these 462 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: women out. They're often there's nobodies, they don't really know 463 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people. That's my point that they would 464 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: not know all that about him. No doubt we didn't, 465 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: did you not that I'm in movies, But I can't 466 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: tell you exactly what data became aware of it, but 467 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: from from what it's like Cosby Cosby and I know 468 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: some people like who used to work at NBC and 469 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: Cosby decades ago was known to be up to no 470 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: good and everybody just looked the other way and flyer him. 471 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: But he'd have he'd have women, and he'd be engaging 472 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: in sex acts in the dressing rooms. Yeah, I'd not 473 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: heard that. Oh well, well I did because I talked 474 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: to people who worked there, and then the Cosby thing 475 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: was known for decades before it became public. But you 476 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: know what the thing is in in show business, At 477 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: least at that time, it was anything goes. You just 478 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: didn't talk. You'd just let people do what they did. 479 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: Nobody was morally horrified. Maybe they were, but it wasn't 480 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: any of their business. And you never went after the 481 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: people brought in the big bucks. Cosby brought in huge money, 482 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: Weinstein brought in huge money. Those are untouchable, I mean 483 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: short to find it, finding a dead person in your bed. 484 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: Nothing was going to sink guys like that in the 485 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: old days. I don't know about now all right, we 486 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: got more coming up. Johnny Ken KF I am six 487 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: forty Live everywhere, the iHeartRadio app Well. Coming up after 488 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: three o'clock, we'll be talking to Brad Garrett ABC News 489 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: for KFI. We'll start by talking about the Brittany Griner 490 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: prisoner trade. The w NBA star is on our way 491 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: back to the US. She was nabbed in February for 492 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: having drug paraphernalia in her luggage when she landed in Russia. 493 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: She was playing for a Russian team, and of course, 494 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: so close to the whole Ukraine invasion, they nabbed her 495 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: and they held her this long and finally this trade, 496 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: which has been talked about for months was made. On 497 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: the other side, the Russians get back an arms dealer 498 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: by the name of Victor Boot who apparently is known 499 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: as the Merchant of Death. It was actually a film 500 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: that was based on his dealings that was released in 501 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: theater some years back. We'll talk about all this coming 502 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: up after the news at three o'clock. Every now and then, 503 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: we have an oddity when it comes to the world 504 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: of executions, and this time we go to Arizona. We're 505 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: a man by the name of Aaron Gunches. And what's 506 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: a little remarkable about him is in his mug shot 507 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: booking photo, he's sort of winking with one eye at 508 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: the camera. He's got kind of a grin on his face. 509 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, that's a good sign of the psycho. Huh, 510 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: that's somebody who's cocky and confident, and yes, psycho winking 511 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: and smiling for his death row picture. What makes this 512 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: case different is he wants to die. He is begging 513 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: to find he get off death row. Please execute me 514 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. He filed a motion a couple 515 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. He begged the State Supreme Court to 516 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: issue his death warrant. See, that's the formality that has 517 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: to happen first. Apparently. I don't think he had any 518 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: appeals because he represented himself and he pled guilty. Right, 519 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: So what are you going to say? What's the appeal? I? 520 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: You know what, because there's always anti death penalty people 521 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: that will still fight for you, even if you can 522 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: fight for yourself. No, you can't tell them to stand down, 523 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: though I think he did. But it's just the machine 524 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: always just moved slowly. I mean, it's twenty years since 525 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: he did this. He kidnapped a man by the name 526 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: of Ted Price back in two thousand and two after 527 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: a fight at his girlfriend's house. He took the victim 528 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: to a reservation near Mesa, Arizona, and shot him three 529 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: times in the chest and once in the back of 530 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: the head. He was the girlfriend's ex husband. Yeah, then 531 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: he went on the run. After a manhunt that involved 532 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: more than fifty cops, he was eventually captured and arrested. 533 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, he shot a police officer on 534 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: his capture. Fortunately they only incurred minor injuries. Well because 535 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: the cop had a bulletproof vest on. All right. He 536 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: pled guilty to kidnapping and first degree murder and represented 537 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: himself in court. He kept waiving time and time again 538 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: his right to counsel. And the update on the story 539 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: is the state has responded and they have gone for 540 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: the death warrant. The thing is there's going to be 541 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: a change in governor by time he is supposed to 542 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: get executed. It goes from a Republican governor Doug Doocey, 543 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: to Katie Hobbs, a Democrat. Oh no, she didn't win 544 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: that what Trump said, carry Lake is gone. Yeah, that's 545 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: what carry Lake and Trump say, yeah, come on, carry 546 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: Lake would love an execution. I'm sure guessing. Oh, you 547 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: think it's possible that the attorney governor may give him 548 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: clemency or just oppose this. The attorney general is new 549 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: as well, named Chris Mays, and Chris Mays has said 550 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: the death penalty is the law of Arizona. Any attorney 551 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: general takes an oath to faithfully enforced the law. We 552 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: heard Jerry Brown say that years ago too. I think 553 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: Newsom even said that, and then he put a moratorium 554 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: on executions right after that, saying, right, well, it's the law, 555 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna put a moratorium on them. So I'm 556 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: gonna holp al and it's still the law, except he 557 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: won't let the law be enforced. When time and time again, 558 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: the voters of California want to keep the death belly, 559 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: but that's what a dishonest snake does. We don't kill 560 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: anybody because I'm morally correct. I don't care what the 561 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: voter to say. I have to follow my heart. I'm 562 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: morally correct that I'm letting murderers live. Yes, that makes 563 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: me better than you. It does not to take a life. 564 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: That does not justify because I say so, says, Price 565 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: visited his ex wife, Catherine Letcher, then Guns's girlfriend, in 566 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: November of two thousand and two. After about ten days, 567 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: the pair started fighting and Letcher hit Price with a telephone. 568 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: That would be Letcher would be the ex wife, Price 569 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: would be the ex husband. She hit him. She hit 570 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: him with a telephone. Later that evening, Gunsches arrived and 571 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: asked somebody named Jennifer Garcia, Letcher's roommate, to drive him 572 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: and Price to the bus station. However, they ended up 573 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: on a dirt path near the desert. Garcia stopped the 574 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: car and while Gunshes was looking in the trunk, Price 575 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: got out. Garcias that she heard three popping sounds and 576 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: saw Price fall to the ground. After hearing another popping sound, 577 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: she saw Gunshes standing by Price's body with a gun 578 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: at his side. Gunsches then got into the car. Garcia 579 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: dropped back to the house, stopping to dispose of Price's 580 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: belongings at a dumpster. This is a tough crowd, huh. 581 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: His body was found days later. These two guys, the roommate, 582 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: the girlfriend. Jesus, Yeah, they're all up to no good? 583 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: Was this in a trailer park? By chance? Uh? Are 584 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: currently one hundred and ten prisoners on death row in Arizona. 585 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: That's a lot less than us, but there's much more 586 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: state but states suspended capital punishment in twenty fourteen, after, 587 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: of course, an execution that lasted too long. Fifteen injections. Wow. 588 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: It was reinstated a day of this year, though, when 589 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: three prisoners have been executed, remember that one. I don't 590 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: either the fifteen injections? Wow? How can I have no 591 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: memory of that? How come that didn't kill them even 592 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: if they didn't find a vein? I don't really fifteen injections. 593 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: I gotta go look that one up. Yeah, that maybe 594 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: an exaggeration. Maybe that's Joseph. Would it lasted two hours? Yeah? 595 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: See what you can find out. Yeah, I'll go look that. 596 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: All right. We'll be talking about the prisoner exchange, bringing 597 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: back the w NBA player Britney Grinder to the United 598 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: States in exchange for a Russian arms dealer. Who will 599 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: talk about Johnny ken kf I AM six forty live everywhere, 600 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app and dever Mark Live in the twenty 601 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: four hour caf I Newsroom. It's never been more important 602 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: to diversify your financial portfolio. Well, that's right. The SNP 603 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: is down twenty percent from the last year, and this 604 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: year looks even worse. Gold and precious metals offer a 605 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: hedge against inflation and stock market volatility, and Legacy Precious 606 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: Metals is the company Cannon I trust. Protect your retirement 607 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: account by rolling it into a goldback Ira, or have 608 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: metal shipped directly to your door. Call our friends at 609 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: Legacy Precious Medals today at eight sixty six, six nine 610 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: one twenty one seventy three who are visited by legacygold 611 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: dot com