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<v Speaker 1>This is How Men Think with brooks Like and Gavin

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<v Speaker 1>de Grab and I Hear Radio podcast. Welcome to another

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<v Speaker 1>episode of How Men Think. My name is brooks Like

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sort of riding solo today. Gavin mailed it in.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I'm not coming to work on Friday. Rick, Dmitri, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>they all did the same thing. So it's just myself here.

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<v Speaker 1>I am ever reliable and consistent. And we also have

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<v Speaker 1>the other the two most consistent people on our I

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<v Speaker 1>Heeart team here. We have Easton, our engineer. Easton is

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<v Speaker 1>riding shotgun with me. Eastern. What's up, buddy, what's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>brooks It's good to be here. Yes, And we also

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<v Speaker 1>have Tori Tory. Well, what's up, girl, I'm right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Brought the snacks the waters dang producer Tory, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of snacks do you have that sounds delicious?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start there. You know what I'm more of the

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<v Speaker 1>person runs into Trader Joe's and just goes for like

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<v Speaker 1>the dried mango to like the sweet and salty, like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like some peanut butter pretzels. Oh yes, my favorite. Wow, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got us covered. I can't wait till we get

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<v Speaker 1>to this podcast in person together again. I missed both

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<v Speaker 1>of you guys, um east and I also want to

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<v Speaker 1>just touch the hair. Do what's going on with the

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<v Speaker 1>hair the well for everyone at home listening. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a luscious head of thick, twisted ebony locks. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>have not cut my hair. You know, I the barber

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<v Speaker 1>I go to I pay through Venmo. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to pinpoint the last day I got my hair cut,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was November. So it has been a while. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so what do we have to do to get you

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<v Speaker 1>to go like a full year? You know? Actually in

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<v Speaker 1>high school I had hair down to my shoulders. I

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<v Speaker 1>looked like I looked like Howard Stern. But um, I uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had that long in a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually like I go pretty pretty short, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually kind of into it. So, um, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go a couple more weeks and then get it trimmed. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's pretty unruly right now. But we gotta we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta put this out to our how men think listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>just to see if they want producer Engineer Easton to

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<v Speaker 1>cut his hair or just let him rock it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think you can go in with it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's happening, and I think once that heat hits

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<v Speaker 1>in l a um, it's gonna fluff up and be

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<v Speaker 1>very voluminous. How do you say volume? Voluminous? Voluminous? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>great volume in there. Eastern, Well, we gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>your hair. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, Eastven.

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<v Speaker 1>What mine? Oh yeah? And if well slow you on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram they already know, but you've made a pretty drastic change.

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<v Speaker 1>I so last time I went in, so for everybody listening,

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<v Speaker 1>I just did a mohawk, a straight up savage mohawk.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't done a mohawk like this since I was

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen years old, so it's been seventeen years since I've

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<v Speaker 1>done this. And so I went to UH. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to a buddy of mine up here in Idaho who's

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<v Speaker 1>a barber stylist, like just an artist. And I went

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<v Speaker 1>to him last week and I said, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do a mohawk, but I don't know how aggressive I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go. And so he kind of did one

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<v Speaker 1>like it was just kind of a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a mohawk, and I'm I'm like I got home and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, nah, anything worth doing is worth overdoing. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I went back to him today and I was like, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go savage, let's go straight mohawk. And so he

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<v Speaker 1>just brought out the buzzer. He just wired the sides down,

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<v Speaker 1>left the top long. Um beard is still long. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm rocking like a Viking. Look right now, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dig it. When I first saw you on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Wow, that's that's an aggressive haircut, Like whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I then I was like, thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's that's a pretty hockey player thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I shouldn't be surprised, you know, like your you

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<v Speaker 1>know your Brooks, Like you're a badass on the ice,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you got You try and make yourself look tough,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you're not. You just try and make yourself

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<v Speaker 1>looked tough, so you have that intimidation factor. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>I know summers coming, man, I just want to do

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<v Speaker 1>something fun and playful and um, I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>switch it up. So but speaking of switching it up,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank all of our how men Think

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<v Speaker 1>listeners for the endless amount of messages that I have

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<v Speaker 1>received from you guys. In response to the episode we

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<v Speaker 1>did last week with Scott Evans about racism, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of my all time favorite episodes. It was

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite conversations I've ever had in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned, I was educated, Um, I became aware, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was changed. Scott literally changed my heart, my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>my thought process, and he challenged me in the most

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<v Speaker 1>loving way to be better. Uh, and to challenge people

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<v Speaker 1>in my commune need to be better as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't listened to that episode with Scott Evans,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott is a wonderful human being, a light of joy

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<v Speaker 1>in every room that he goes into. Please go back

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<v Speaker 1>and reference the discussion that we had last week about

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<v Speaker 1>racism and trying to seek and dismantle racism. UM. Really

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<v Speaker 1>amazing episode. He Scott brought me to tears. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's only the second time on this podcast that I've cried, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>but Scott's story brought me to tears. And with everything

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<v Speaker 1>that's current and relevant in the world today, UM, please

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<v Speaker 1>go listen to that if you haven't. And for everybody

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<v Speaker 1>that's reached out to me, I'll try and get back

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<v Speaker 1>to every comment I can. But thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>For the loving messages. The community has loved that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>It was difficult, it was deep, it was raw, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was necessary. So I just wanted to say thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to you guys for the feedback on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We always appreciate when we hear from you guys. And

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of that Eastern, We're gonna have some fun today,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't we. We are we are. We're turning the show

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<v Speaker 1>over to the listeners today, but take the rains. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So we have a couple of people calling in with

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<v Speaker 1>questions and we I have no idea what their questions are.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to call in and we're gonna do our

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<v Speaker 1>best as a podcast team to positively serve and impact

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<v Speaker 1>these people calling it. So Eastern, do you have our

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<v Speaker 1>first caller on the line. Yes, I do. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>bring her in. Okay, So excited to have our very

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<v Speaker 1>first caller today. We have Ali with us. Ali, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you today? I'm doing well? How are you? Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the How Men Think Podcast? Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Excited to be here and we're excited to have you. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>can you give us a little background information on you?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you? How old are how young are you?

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to hear, um, what stage of life

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<v Speaker 1>here in and then we'll get to what you're calling about.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you correct? I am in Denver, Colorado. I

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<v Speaker 1>am thirty five years old, and I'm sitting here with

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<v Speaker 1>my dog who actually has a cone around his head

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<v Speaker 1>because he has Hopefully he doesn't interrupt, um, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I am at a stage in life actually where I

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<v Speaker 1>just recently left my full time position and athletics and

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<v Speaker 1>recreation at the University of Denver, and I'm pursuing some

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<v Speaker 1>other ambitions of mine, um, mostly day trading and then

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<v Speaker 1>also trying to become like personal trainer, nutrition coach, some

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<v Speaker 1>different different things. At first, off, I want to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a massive high five high five to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely love it fires me up and I love when

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<v Speaker 1>people bet on themselves. It's tough, I will say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not easy. Especially. I mean I can see either maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in like early twenties when you're just trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out, or a later stage of life. But right

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle, um, I mean late twenties, I went

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<v Speaker 1>through a divorce which kind of changed my perspective on

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<v Speaker 1>everything in life. And um, so here I am trying

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<v Speaker 1>to okay So how long have you been pondering this

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<v Speaker 1>switch and when did you make this pivotal moment, like

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<v Speaker 1>make this pivot in life. I made the switch probably

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half ago or so. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say my father, who's here in town with me.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on the day trading side, um, and he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gave me the push to do it with him.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've found now a year and a half later,

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a very individual endeavor and trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>that out on my own and where I fit along

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<v Speaker 1>with doing it with your father at this stage in

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<v Speaker 1>life is also not the easiest. But it's been great

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to spend time with them too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just with all the craziness going on right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the university I was working at here in Denver

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<v Speaker 1>just did massive layoffs yesterday. So I'm getting all these

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<v Speaker 1>texts of my friends that people who work there are

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<v Speaker 1>twenty plus years that are losing their jobs. And I

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<v Speaker 1>am at least feeling like I'm doing things I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing and hopefully can make work. So so

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<v Speaker 1>you've been in the new venture for a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, Yeah, somewhat new things keep that was more

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<v Speaker 1>than day trading, the whole personal training, nutrition coach that's

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<v Speaker 1>come about really just during this the last few months

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<v Speaker 1>stuck at home, it was really my like what do

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do when all this is over? And

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<v Speaker 1>what am I passionate about? And I need something to

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<v Speaker 1>keep my brain busy. So it was like why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise I probably would have never done it, And I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine if I hadn't done that. Yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 1>but you have a background because you work in athletics

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<v Speaker 1>and recreations, right, you have a background in in movement

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<v Speaker 1>and wellness. Yeah. Yeah, I've been a hockey player in

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life. And what position? Um? Any forward, mostly center, center, wing, whatever. Oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a skater, probably at five. I'm only five to

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<v Speaker 1>so most people are like, what you played hockey? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. I love it. Are you a Colorado Avalanche fan?

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I actually I grew up here. There aren't

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<v Speaker 1>so many Denver natives anymore, but I actually it was

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate enough to go up down the street from Peter Forsberg,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was my idol before I moved down the street,

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<v Speaker 1>so I then got to know him and he would

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<v Speaker 1>take me to practice with them, and so, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so lucky. But yeah, that is Ali, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so jealous. That is the coolest thing ever. Peter was

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<v Speaker 1>a one of my favorite players because he was incredibly talented.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an all world talent. But the thing I

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<v Speaker 1>admired the most about Peter was his absolute fierce competitive spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an absolute competitor. He had those eyes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he had those eyes that were just like you could

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<v Speaker 1>see he was locked in and he was just do

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<v Speaker 1>you ever play against him? I played against him? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah it was. It was awesome because I used to

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<v Speaker 1>play him on my saga Genesis. I used to have

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of him on my wall, like me too massive influence.

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<v Speaker 1>I wore number twenty one and yeah, so that's amazing. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>how can we best serve you today? Ali, Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good segue. Actually my question is hockey related. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've been I stay here. I mean, as a

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<v Speaker 1>female growing up in hockey, like the Stanley Cup was

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<v Speaker 1>always out of sights for me, Like I was even

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate enough to go to a party with the cup

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<v Speaker 1>and like get to hold it. And I remember seeing

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<v Speaker 1>like seeing the kids around that were male that would

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<v Speaker 1>like not touch it because that was just like until

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<v Speaker 1>you craze it. But that so I have a different,

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<v Speaker 1>like gender perspective. But so I'm curious if you were

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<v Speaker 1>still playing hockey like this season, with all this craziness

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<v Speaker 1>going on, and all of a sudden, like your season

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<v Speaker 1>ends mid season, would you, like truly hear what June

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<v Speaker 1>eleven want to go back and fish this season? That

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<v Speaker 1>would be shortened and guessing playoffs wouldn't be your like

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<v Speaker 1>historic seven game series, Like how would you feel, like,

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<v Speaker 1>would you truly want to go back? And would winning

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<v Speaker 1>the Cup this year be the same as any other year? Truthfully?

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<v Speaker 1>In a heartbeat, right now, let's play tomorrow, Let's start now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's the same competitive desire to win um And

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<v Speaker 1>I actually I actually really enjoy when circumstances get messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think this season, this season is obviously unique,

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<v Speaker 1>right with the black Swan event of coronavirus, and like

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<v Speaker 1>this season is unlike any in the hundred plus year

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<v Speaker 1>history of the NHL. That being said, they're still going

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<v Speaker 1>to award a Stanley Cup winner. And if even three

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<v Speaker 1>years out of the game, if they said Brooks come

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<v Speaker 1>play tomorrow, I'm in right now, right now, I love

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<v Speaker 1>it there. It was one of the greatest honors of

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<v Speaker 1>my life to every single day be able to compete

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<v Speaker 1>for the Stanley Cup. Oh I can imagine. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I remember as a girl growing up, I mean twenty

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<v Speaker 1>plus years ago, when like they told me I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>win the Cup. I was like, well why not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be heartbreaking. Um, female hockey is there's the

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<v Speaker 1>World Championships, there's the Olympics, there's college. Um, but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>female hockey does not have Yeah. I just can't even imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love and growing up around like Forsburg

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<v Speaker 1>and being I mean I just can't even imagine like that,

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<v Speaker 1>just striving for that. Have you ever thought of getting

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<v Speaker 1>involved with the apps? Um? I don't know. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a ton of work. Like my first job

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<v Speaker 1>out of college was actually in the Central Hockey League,

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<v Speaker 1>done in Amarillo, Texas of all places, which was tough

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<v Speaker 1>because you're competing against high school football that draws forty people. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean I've worked in hockey. I truthfully, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I and that's partly why I got out of

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<v Speaker 1>athletics and recreation as I think I enjoy it so

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<v Speaker 1>much as a hobby that I started to lose sight of.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I had to work for games every Friday Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>night for so long, I didn't any longer want to

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<v Speaker 1>go see them, and like I don't, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I'm more I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to work in hockey. I think I'm probably leaning

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<v Speaker 1>more towards like coaching hockey, giving back to That's how

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I feel to Ali. Because the I always

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<v Speaker 1>thought I loved the sport. I always said I love hockey,

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<v Speaker 1>I love hockey, UM and I did. But once what

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<v Speaker 1>I found out after I was released and my career ended,

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<v Speaker 1>was that I was actually in love with the competition

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and the platform was just hockey. Yeah. Once the competition,

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<v Speaker 1>the world class competition was removed from it, the sport

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have as much appeal to me. I haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>on the ice since the day I was released. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been three years. My mind, I skated forty days a year,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you haven't been on the ice since in

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<v Speaker 1>three years. I haven't been on the ice since Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>Day when I was released in UM. Because the and

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of a hole in my heart I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, is that like an emotional thing, you

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<v Speaker 1>think that somewhat of there's I'm trying to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still processing going through it. UM One. The first,

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost is that without that competition for the

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley Cup, to compete with and against the best in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, without that present, it just it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the same. So I could go play, I could

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<v Speaker 1>go play a Pick Cup game. I could go I

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<v Speaker 1>could be on the ice tomorrow tonight if I wanted to. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I have my equipment like I I could, but without

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<v Speaker 1>that intense competition and the drive to be the best

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<v Speaker 1>in the world at it, I'm not pulled to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hope someday that I'm pulled back to the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's that that that changes? Yes, because truthfully, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much I still want to give. Like I spent

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life, I spent thirty five years trying to

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<v Speaker 1>master excellence in this craft, and I don't want that

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<v Speaker 1>to just die with me. I want to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to pass that on. So whether it's whether I have

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<v Speaker 1>kids and introduce them to hockey or just getting involved

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<v Speaker 1>with some youth programs, I believe for me to be

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<v Speaker 1>involved with hockey again is going to be through children,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is I will say, like my steps on,

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<v Speaker 1>he's eleven and he's actually a goalie, and that has

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<v Speaker 1>been like the cluelest and his mom and dad aren't

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<v Speaker 1>hockey people, so this has kind of been like my

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<v Speaker 1>journey with him, and like I will say, I did

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<v Speaker 1>not realize how seeing even like through a different position's

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<v Speaker 1>eyes has been like the most fun and coolest thing

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<v Speaker 1>I could ever. Like, I go watch and now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching it from the goalies eyes, and I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I need to let oh, thank every goal

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<v Speaker 1>that I ever played for because I look at this

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<v Speaker 1>and it completely so I would say, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>truly do hope for you because there is I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think of us who never had the opportunity even

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<v Speaker 1>to like ever win the cup. Yeah, don't let this,

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<v Speaker 1>don't let that ruin the sport for you, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much I have to say. I even this is funny.

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<v Speaker 1>But back it was probably January, I think one of

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<v Speaker 1>your Guys shows you were talking about like challenging people

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<v Speaker 1>to like do something different for I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it was like New Year's resolution or like what do

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<v Speaker 1>you like, what are you doing different going into the

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<v Speaker 1>new year? And so I had started, like before you

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<v Speaker 1>said that, I had started writing letters to people I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, like as a means of maybe thinking through

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<v Speaker 1>something from a different perspective, or like famous people or

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<v Speaker 1>like they'll never So I actually wrote after you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about like doing these different things, I actually wrote you

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<v Speaker 1>a letter that's about like when you were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>having a hard time getting over like not playing hockey.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have to dig it up, but like that was

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, but it was about like giving back to

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<v Speaker 1>hockey and that I hope there's like more for you

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<v Speaker 1>with the sport. Yeah, I thank you. That's so thoughtful

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<v Speaker 1>and kind. I would love to Can you, um send

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<v Speaker 1>it to me. Just send it me on on my

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram or just DM me on Instagram and I'll find you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have to find it, but yeah, I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>read it. Um, that's very thoughtful. Thank you. There's actually

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<v Speaker 1>just today I met a young boy, um who was

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<v Speaker 1>a hockey player, and he was and his name was Beckham,

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<v Speaker 1>and just made me think that I should be back

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<v Speaker 1>in that space that my heart is alive in that space.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would tell you I felt a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit probably of what you're saying when like two, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean as a female again, like the only thing I

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<v Speaker 1>had to look up to. I don't even think like

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics Women's hockey was in the Olympics when I

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<v Speaker 1>started playing, but through high school, Olympic women's team that

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<v Speaker 1>won the gold was like my first, Oh, there's something

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<v Speaker 1>that I could do, which I obviously never made it

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<v Speaker 1>to that, but through some people I know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was two years ago. UM team was getting together

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<v Speaker 1>up in Aspen, Colorado here for like a charity event

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<v Speaker 1>and they were playing against another team, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>happened to need some skaters on the team with Olympians.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got asked to do it. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, like putting on the USA Hockey jersey, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like the weirdest thing ever because I was like

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<v Speaker 1>I never made it, like I'm not playing in the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm like wearing this jersey with my idols, which

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<v Speaker 1>was like so exciting, so overwhelming, Like I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to feel. It was like this is a strange

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<v Speaker 1>moment that I like wasn't super excited about at first,

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<v Speaker 1>but now, I mean then I had time to reflect,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was kind of that same. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>the moment I wished I could have had. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think that's so cool though, Like I've represented

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<v Speaker 1>Canada twice in international competition, in the World Junior Championships

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Men's World Championships. I never played in

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics, but I played in the other two, the

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<v Speaker 1>junior and the men's Junior and Senior Men's UM World Championships.

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<v Speaker 1>And pulling your your country's jersey over your head and

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<v Speaker 1>you look, I can't even like fathom when I did it,

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<v Speaker 1>just to like play in this game. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, what would that moment be? Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that, It's exactly that. It's But here's the thing, Allie,

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<v Speaker 1>is you you deserve to pull that jersey over your head,

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<v Speaker 1>just as the ladies who made the Olympic yeah to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're when we when we play, we represent

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<v Speaker 1>every single person that loves the sport that grew up

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<v Speaker 1>all across our nation. We represent everybody. You're part of

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<v Speaker 1>the fabric of us being there, you know, so you

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<v Speaker 1>have as much um as much, right to wear that

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<v Speaker 1>jersey as we do. It's completely equal. You know you

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<v Speaker 1>need we're in the jersey. Don't let the game. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know if you're going to give that advice, right, truthful, truthfully.

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<v Speaker 1>The other reason why I haven't moved back into the

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<v Speaker 1>sport of hockey is I spent thirty five years inside

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<v Speaker 1>a rink. Also really curious at this time what else

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<v Speaker 1>is out there in my life? What else is there

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<v Speaker 1>in the world that I'm interested in? Let me try things,

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<v Speaker 1>Let me try this podcast, let me see if this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that interests me. Let's see, let me just

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<v Speaker 1>kick tires. As you pivoted in your life, You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to try something new here, same was for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that hockey is there, I know that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lane I could be in. But I'm also curious on

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<v Speaker 1>what are are my other curiosities? What other things am

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<v Speaker 1>I good at? One of the things really fascinate me?

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<v Speaker 1>And do I want to learn? How can I do

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<v Speaker 1>something different to impact and serve people? Um, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>been one of the reasons I want to give that

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<v Speaker 1>ample time instead of just going right back into the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing I always knew. Yeah, that's fair. So how

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<v Speaker 1>else can we help you, Ali, we have like a

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<v Speaker 1>minute or so left, how else can can we serve

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<v Speaker 1>your mission or any other questions you want to ask? Oh,

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that if I necessarily have any questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess I'll say, like from listening to

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys, if you guys, if all the like name

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.160
<v Speaker 1>players on the show where to Like this is gonna

0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 1>sound really weird, but like if you guys all had

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<v Speaker 1>a bag be I would be like the child of

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<v Speaker 1>the show because like hockey player, aspiring musician, songwriter, which

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<v Speaker 1>I've really been trying to do in this time. Like

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys talked about, I've been married, I've been divorced,

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>I have step kids, I've had fertility issues. Like everything

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:17.879
<v Speaker 1>you guys talk about and like that has been me.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been really cool to like hear you guys

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that because not a lot of men go

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<v Speaker 1>down that road. So thank you. I appreciate the feedback.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you listening, and that's why we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>start this podcast. I in my life am guilty of

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<v Speaker 1>not opening up, not talking about emotions, stuffing everything, um

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 1>internalizing everything. Probably most men can kind of relate to that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to step into this space and the

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<v Speaker 1>other guys as well, because it's it's practice for me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my personal development, is practice for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm exercising a muscle to open up, to be more vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 1>to share my heart. Um. And thankfully all four of

0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the other guy us have met me there, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we try to have conversations that are real.

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<v Speaker 1>We try to have authentic, deep, raw, genuine Let's dive

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>into what men don't talk about. Men usually talk about things,

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 1>the game, the truck, politics, they talk about things. They

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>don't talk about what's going on in our hearts and

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in our lives. And I'm married to one.

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<v Speaker 1>So get him to listen to this show. Get him,

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<v Speaker 1>we should get him on. Maybe we should get him on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that would be amazing. I can't imagine what he like.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever want a challenge of someone who like he's German.

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>He just turned fifty this year, so he's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit older. He is like, I mean, awesome guy. Obviously

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm married to him, Like you want to challenge try

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and pick through him? That be awesome. Okay, we could

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<v Speaker 1>have von um, but um, I just thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for listening. Thank you when when people reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to us and say they listened to the show or

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 1>they removed or impacted by something we did on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And and also just thank you so much for the

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>hockey questions. There's so much thanks talking about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you the best and I wish your abs

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the best. They're a fantastic team therefore having a good

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 1>year this year, so they're so fun to watch. They

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<v Speaker 1>have such some young studs that are just amazing hockey players. So, um,

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I love that you called in about hockey. A lot

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>of people will call in about music, so Gavin gets

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions. But I love that you called it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, I do. The music is my other love,

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:30.680
<v Speaker 1>but hockey will always be there. So awesome. Thank you

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 1>so much, Ali, We appreciate it. And I'd love if

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>you can send me that letter, if you get to

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>send a picture, and I'll respond to you and I'd

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>love to read that. Thank you for your thoughts, your sentiments,

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 1>thank you for listening, sending you love on your journey. Alie.

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you appreciating Bye bye. I always love

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 1>to hear from our listeners, We read your d M.

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 1>But also you can call us um with your question

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that one eight four three zero seventy seven. And we

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>have a caller on the line right now who's been

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 1>God bless her heart. She's been on hold for a

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<v Speaker 1>million years. Um, but we have Helenda with us. Helenda,

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>welcome to how many thanks? How are you hi? I'm good,

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it's been it's only been over however, that's okay. I apologize,

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm so story, but I'm here to help you as

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:25.479
<v Speaker 1>best I can. He Linda, what is your question? Um?

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Life post rides on my mind a lot. So how

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>do I like being on my own two feet and

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>like a fishing moving out? I think I want to

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 1>get start a career in another state and then just

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:45.159
<v Speaker 1>like building my life from there. Um, it's is actually

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:50.360
<v Speaker 1>a very exciting time, Helenda. It's actually I know it's

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>very scary. UM. I'm trying to reference like my own experience.

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember when I moved away from home. I was

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I had just turned six when I moved away from

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>home to pursue hockey, and I remember I remember not

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>being ready for it. I remember being away from my

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>parents for three weeks or a month, I was playing

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>hockey and I loved it, but I remember I was

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I was crying in the basement. I was crying because

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I missed my family so much. And I wrote a

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>letter to my parents UM and basically said, I'm coming home.

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to come home. I can't do this, this

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>is too hard for me, UM, I want to come home.

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>And I put it in my desk drawer in my

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>bedroom and I just never ended up mailing it. And

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I didn't, But somehow I found

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the courage to continue on. There was there was a dream.

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I had, the dream of playing in the National Hockey League,

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>and I knew that that dream would die if I

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>went back home, and so I had to find the

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>courage to continue on. And I believe that all of

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that is within you. I fully believe that all of

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that is within you as well. Yeah, I fully and

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>And I wish I could lay out he Linda for

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you steps. I wish I was better and I could

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>lay out exact steps. This is what I did, and

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>then this is what I did. I don't have that

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>for you right now, but I do feel and firmly

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>believe that everything you need is within you, and I

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>actually really feel that you're going to be actually more

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>than okay the world if you If you, I think

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>there's two ways to view the world, and you view

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>it as something f fearful or you you view it

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>as something as of an opportunity. And I hope that

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you're able to adopt this sort of uncertainty as an

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>opportunity versus an obstacle. Yeah, are you able to have

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>this conversation with any friends or family members, anybody close

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>in your life that you can trust to open up

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>and share this like, this is what I'm really struggling

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>with And can can I just voice my concerns and

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>have you listen? And then I would love if you've

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>had any solutions to provide or advice to provide. Um,

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I do, But I guess what I want to do

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>is like a little different than what my family has done.

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm first generation Americans, so the university's and fill embarrassing.

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>That's not something they've really gone through. I have my

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>older brother, Um, oh my godmothers. But so are you

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the first member of your family to go to university?

0:29:55.840 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Kind of yeah, in my household, in your household, brother, Yeah,

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>my brother's he's going to But you know, are you

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>feeling a burden of responsibility of that you don't have

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>this amazing opportunity and feeling the weight of it within

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>your household because maybe you are the first to go

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>to university and there's an expectation that may come with that. No,

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not so much that. It's more like I know

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>what I want to do, but like I just don't know,

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>like what steps that take. I don't know how, So

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>like when that day comes, um, because there's a lot

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>of stuff to figure out and plan out, Like the

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>first thing to do is find a job and then

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>find an apartment and then find a car, um, because

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to move out of the space from where

0:30:55.520 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I am. Okay, So, so the how the how really

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>trips a lot of people out. The how the how

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 1>stops people in their tracks, you know, And I like

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's a it's a barrier of entry that that

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>resilient people pushed through and that stops other people in

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>their track and it makes me think of, Um, I

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.239
<v Speaker 1>can't remember which US president was, but he said, we're

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna send a man to the mood, We're gonna put

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>a man on the moon and bring him home safely,

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't know how. He didn't know how, but

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>he knew what he wanted to do, and they wanted

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>space exploration. They wanted to be the first country to

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>land on the moon. So he knew the what, and

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>then he he he challenged the nation and his people

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to figure out the how. But as long as you

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>know the what and you believe in the power of

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the what and the why. So you know what you

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 1>want to do, you want to be, let's let's even

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>start there. You want to be in apparel merchandizing. Is

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that what you want to do? Do you want to do? State?

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I hear if you say that, Yeah, I want to

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>like that's like fashion related production merchandizing. Um, even like

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>life and style, homegood anything in design like that, That's

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>what I want to do. Okay, So that's wonderful because

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't know what they want to do. Myself,

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm trying to included in that. I don't know

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>what I want to do with my life right now.

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>So um, that's wonderful that you know what you want

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to do. And then you also said you want to

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>move out of state, So which state you currently live

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>in and which state do you think you might want

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>to move to. Well, Um, I live in cantonas and

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking Florida because Florida is against start But why Florida?

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>What's appealing to you about Florida? Um? I think it's

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>a good city here, that's a good start for me

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>where I could find work in. Um, I feel like

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>if he's like law Standalis in New York City, like,

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>that's too I guess far out there for me to

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>start out in. Okay, I think I think ending my

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>career in New York. I think a few decades from now,

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>i'd like to maybe be somewhere in New York. Cool, right,

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Florida would be probably a good place to start. Awesome,

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that's fantastic. And I have no judgment. I don't think

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>one is better than the other endea. I was just curious. Okay,

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 1>so you live in Kansas. Do you want to move

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>out of state? And Florida is kind of on your radar? Now?

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>My next question is why do you want to create

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>this life? Why do you want to be in design

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and apparel merchandizing and all of that, and and why

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 1>is it important to you that you pursue this. Why

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 1>not give this up? Yeah? Um, it's something I believe.

0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>We all have our gifts, whether it's math or science, athletics.

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Mine isn't like I've always loved anything artistic, anything in

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>design that since I was a kid, I knew that's

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>what I like. I knew that's what I enjoyed, and

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I knew that's what um I got praised for. So

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>so since I was a kid, I had this idea

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm evolving that that dream, I guess into this

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>big goal that I have at the end. They have

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>always I've known since I was a kid, I enjoyed.

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. So in your in your in your life,

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>because what we're all seeking, truly is happiness. What you

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>would be happy. The reason why you wanted to pursue

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>this is that it would make you happy and fulfilled

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and expressed and you're good at it. Yeah, and yeah,

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I like my work to be out there and have

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>like my vision sort of come to life and have

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that be admired by the public. I guess, Okay, So

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>what happens if you don't do this? I mean, I

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>have the drive for it. I feel like if it's

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.320
<v Speaker 1>a no brainer that you just want to keep getting

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>up and doing something, which that's me. I I don't

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:33.720
<v Speaker 1>want to settle. Um. I don't really have a planned

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>be at least I don't think I do. But I know,

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>um what you know, it takes time, and I know

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>no one starts at the top, which is I feel

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>like as a as a young girl, I don't like

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>get things done quickly. But it's about doing things correct

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>for you in your life, not getting it done fast.

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I agree with you. Things happen when they're

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>supposed to, not when you want them to. UM. I've

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>actually been reading a lot on that. To Linda, I've

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>actually been that exact thing that you just mentioned. I've

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>been reading a lot on that, um. And what I've

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>been reading is it's called the law of least effort

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 1>um nature. The tree will become the tree when the

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.240
<v Speaker 1>tree is meant to become the tree, but rest assured

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 1>it will feel fulfill its entire potential when it's supposed to.

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>It does not rush, you know, it does not force itself.

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 1>It just grows as it's naturally supposed to grow. And

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>just some some of the laws of nature. I have

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>been observing those trying to apply them to my own life,

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>and it's taken the pressure to accelerate everything which we

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>put on ourselves. Um. We're achievers. We desire to achieve,

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 1>so we put this pressure on ourselves to accelerate things,

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of taken that pressure off that what

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>will be will be just by nature. So I love

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that you're twenty two, almost twenty two and you have

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 1>that mindset already. I'm just learning this and I'm thirty six,

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>so your fourteen years ahead of me. Girl, You're doing great. UM.

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I also I want to touch on one thing. The

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>reason why I asked you is what happens if you

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>don't do this? Um. One of the main components of

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>my drive and my engine to achieve my goals in

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>my life was I was completely terrified of what my

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>life would look like if I did not pursue my

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>goals and dreams and aspirations to the absolute furthest possible point.

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I was terrified if I gave up on You know,

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:54.359
<v Speaker 1>there's uncertainty of whether or not I would actually achieve them,

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:58.879
<v Speaker 1>but I was terrified on giving on what my life

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>would be like if I gave up on them. So

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm going to exhaust all possibilities, all ounds

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of effort, every intention and intensity, everything I can muster

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 1>into it, I'm going to put into it, and I'm

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 1>going to pursue it. And if it doesn't work out,

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work out. But at least I didn't give

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>up on it, and I did it, and I lived

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>my dream for fifteen years and still have to a

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>degree to lend living my dream. That I wake up

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and I get to choose what I do in this world.

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 1>That's truly my dream. Um. So I wanted to ask you,

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>what does your life look like if you don't pursue that.

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I was terrified of what mine would look like and

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 1>how I would steel, and so I got after it.

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Have you given that any thought? How you will feel

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>what life will look like if you aren't able two

0:38:53.080 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>pursue this as you dream about it? Yeah, I think

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>at my age that end goal won't won't be anything different.

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.320
<v Speaker 1>It might evolve a little bit as I grow and

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I learn, and I changed throughout until I graduate. Um,

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I think I would feel unaccomplished. I'd feel

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not at my end goal. Um, I don't

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>know what that would look like. I think, yeah, Oh,

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think i'd be fully satisfied because I do

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 1>know what I want. Um, but yeah, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>that looked like. But it's here, right, Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>so it's got so Truthfully, I think like for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was more scary to imagine my life if I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pursue my dreams. Then the fear that was present

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<v Speaker 1>with going after the uncertainty of trying to achieve my dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to move away from my parents, move away

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<v Speaker 1>from my brother and sister at the age of sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That terrified me, But that fear was less than the

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<v Speaker 1>fear of what would my life look like if I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pursue my dreams as far as I can possibly

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<v Speaker 1>take them. So somewhere in there I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>find the courage to continue on. And I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>you have the same courage, he Linda, I will and

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<v Speaker 1>firmly believe that you do. So I think you are.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're wonderfully poised for success and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do great things in the world. He Linda, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>a fan here. Thank you, You're welcome. Okay, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let you go over today, but I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>see what you do in the world and the next

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<v Speaker 1>house that I buy. I'm going to call you and

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<v Speaker 1>have you hear your design the whole thing. I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>even be worse at sticking out clothes and like fashion,

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<v Speaker 1>so I need help in all regards to Linda. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do that, Okay, deal, Okay, Um. I wish you

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<v Speaker 1>all the best and much love to you. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for the call, Thank you for your patience. UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>please call him again and let us know how you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I'll do that, and I'll follow not just

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<v Speaker 1>only the Hell Men Think podcast on Instagram, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>follow you on Instagram. I love it. I appreciate it. Girl. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll send me a message at any time. I try

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<v Speaker 1>and be of service. I try and give my platform

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<v Speaker 1>So send me a message. I'll help you in any

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<v Speaker 1>way I can. Um, and I wish you all the best, Ballinda,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for calling. Thank you. It was awesome. Awesome, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>have a great day. Thank you, bye bye. That was

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun. Man. I love when our listeners call.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I got into this podcast is because I

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<v Speaker 1>love when I get to talk to you guys. Uh

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