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Speaker 1: This is How Men Think with brooks Like and Gavin

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Speaker 1: de Grab and I Hear Radio podcast. Welcome to another

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Speaker 1: episode of How Men Think. My name is brooks Like

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Speaker 1: and I'm sort of riding solo today. Gavin mailed it in.

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Speaker 1: He said, I'm not coming to work on Friday. Rick, Dmitri, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: they all did the same thing. So it's just myself here.

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Speaker 1: I am ever reliable and consistent. And we also have

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Speaker 1: the other the two most consistent people on our I

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Speaker 1: Heeart team here. We have Easton, our engineer. Easton is

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Speaker 1: riding shotgun with me. Eastern. What's up, buddy, what's happening,

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Speaker 1: brooks It's good to be here. Yes, And we also

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Speaker 1: have Tori Tory. Well, what's up, girl, I'm right here.

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Speaker 1: Brought the snacks the waters dang producer Tory, kind of

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Speaker 1: what kind of snacks do you have that sounds delicious?

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Speaker 1: Let's start there. You know what I'm more of the

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Speaker 1: person runs into Trader Joe's and just goes for like

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Speaker 1: the dried mango to like the sweet and salty, like

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Speaker 1: maybe like some peanut butter pretzels. Oh yes, my favorite. Wow, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got us covered. I can't wait till we get

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Speaker 1: to this podcast in person together again. I missed both

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Speaker 1: of you guys, um east and I also want to

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Speaker 1: just touch the hair. Do what's going on with the

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Speaker 1: hair the well for everyone at home listening. I have

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Speaker 1: a luscious head of thick, twisted ebony locks. Um, I

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Speaker 1: have not cut my hair. You know, I the barber

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Speaker 1: I go to I pay through Venmo. So I was

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Speaker 1: able to pinpoint the last day I got my hair cut,

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Speaker 1: and that was November. So it has been a while. Um,

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Speaker 1: so what do we have to do to get you

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Speaker 1: to go like a full year? You know? Actually in

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Speaker 1: high school I had hair down to my shoulders. I

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Speaker 1: looked like I looked like Howard Stern. But um, I uh,

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Speaker 1: I haven't had that long in a really long time.

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Speaker 1: I usually like I go pretty pretty short, but I'm

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Speaker 1: actually kind of into it. So, um, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go a couple more weeks and then get it trimmed. Uh,

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Speaker 1: because it's pretty unruly right now. But we gotta we

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Speaker 1: gotta put this out to our how men think listeners,

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Speaker 1: just to see if they want producer Engineer Easton to

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Speaker 1: cut his hair or just let him rock it. I

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Speaker 1: think I think you can go in with it. I

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Speaker 1: think it's happening, and I think once that heat hits

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Speaker 1: in l a um, it's gonna fluff up and be

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Speaker 1: very voluminous. How do you say volume? Voluminous? Voluminous? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: great volume in there. Eastern, Well, we gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: your hair. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, Eastven.

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Speaker 1: What mine? Oh yeah? And if well slow you on

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Speaker 1: Instagram they already know, but you've made a pretty drastic change.

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Speaker 1: I so last time I went in, so for everybody listening,

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Speaker 1: I just did a mohawk, a straight up savage mohawk.

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Speaker 1: I haven't done a mohawk like this since I was

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Speaker 1: nineteen years old, so it's been seventeen years since I've

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Speaker 1: done this. And so I went to UH. I went

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Speaker 1: to a buddy of mine up here in Idaho who's

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Speaker 1: a barber stylist, like just an artist. And I went

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Speaker 1: to him last week and I said, I want to

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Speaker 1: do a mohawk, but I don't know how aggressive I

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Speaker 1: want to go. And so he kind of did one

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Speaker 1: a mohawk, and I'm I'm like I got home and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, anything worth doing is worth overdoing. And

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Speaker 1: so I went back to him today and I was like, Paul,

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Speaker 1: let's go savage, let's go straight mohawk. And so he

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Speaker 1: just brought out the buzzer. He just wired the sides down,

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Speaker 1: left the top long. Um beard is still long. So um,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm rocking like a Viking. Look right now, kind

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Speaker 1: of dig it. When I first saw you on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, that's that's an aggressive haircut, Like whoa.

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Speaker 1: But then I then I was like, thinking about it,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's that's a pretty hockey player thing to do.

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Speaker 1: Like I shouldn't be surprised, you know, like your you

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Speaker 1: know your Brooks, Like you're a badass on the ice,

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Speaker 1: Yeah you got You try and make yourself look tough,

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Speaker 1: even if you're not. You just try and make yourself

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Speaker 1: I know summers coming, man, I just want to do

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Speaker 1: switch it up. So but speaking of switching it up,

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Speaker 1: I want to thank all of our how men Think

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Speaker 1: listeners for the endless amount of messages that I have

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Speaker 1: received from you guys. In response to the episode we

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Speaker 1: did last week with Scott Evans about racism, and that

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Speaker 1: was one of my all time favorite episodes. It was

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite conversations I've ever had in my life.

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Speaker 1: I learned, I was educated, Um, I became aware, and

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Speaker 1: I was changed. Scott literally changed my heart, my mind,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't listened to that episode with Scott Evans,

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Speaker 1: Scott is a wonderful human being, a light of joy

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Speaker 1: in every room that he goes into. Please go back

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Speaker 1: and reference the discussion that we had last week about

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Speaker 1: racism and trying to seek and dismantle racism. UM. Really

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Speaker 1: amazing episode. He Scott brought me to tears. I think

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Speaker 1: but Scott's story brought me to tears. And with everything

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Speaker 1: that's current and relevant in the world today, UM, please

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Speaker 1: go listen to that if you haven't. And for everybody

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Speaker 1: that's reached out to me, I'll try and get back

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Speaker 1: to every comment I can. But thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: For the loving messages. The community has loved that conversation.

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Speaker 1: It was difficult, it was deep, it was raw, but

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Speaker 1: We always appreciate when we hear from you guys. And

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Speaker 1: speaking of that Eastern, We're gonna have some fun today,

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Speaker 1: aren't we. We are we are. We're turning the show

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Speaker 1: over to the listeners today, but take the rains. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So we have a couple of people calling in with

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Speaker 1: these people calling it. So Eastern, do you have our

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Speaker 1: bring her in. Okay, So excited to have our very

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Speaker 1: first caller today. We have Ali with us. Ali, how

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Speaker 1: are you today? I'm doing well? How are you? Welcome

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Speaker 1: Excited to be here and we're excited to have you. Um,

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Speaker 1: can you give us a little background information on you?

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Speaker 1: Where are you? How old are how young are you?

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Speaker 1: If you want to hear, um, what stage of life

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Speaker 1: Where are you correct? I am in Denver, Colorado. I

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Speaker 1: am thirty five years old, and I'm sitting here with

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Speaker 1: I am at a stage in life actually where I

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Speaker 1: just recently left my full time position and athletics and

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Speaker 1: also trying to become like personal trainer, nutrition coach, some

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Speaker 1: different different things. At first, off, I want to give

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Speaker 1: people bet on themselves. It's tough, I will say, it's

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Speaker 1: to okay So how long have you been pondering this

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Speaker 1: life is also not the easiest. But it's been great

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Speaker 1: a half, Yeah, somewhat new things keep that was more

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Speaker 1: can't imagine if I hadn't done that. Yeah, so you

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Speaker 1: but you have a background because you work in athletics

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Speaker 1: and recreations, right, you have a background in in movement

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Speaker 1: and wellness. Yeah. Yeah, I've been a hockey player in

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Speaker 1: my whole life. And what position? Um? Any forward, mostly center, center, wing, whatever. Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: so most people are like, what you played hockey? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's amazing. I love it. Are you a Colorado Avalanche fan?

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Speaker 1: I was so lucky. But yeah, that is Ali, I'm

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Speaker 1: so jealous. That is the coolest thing ever. Peter was

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Speaker 1: He was an all world talent. But the thing I

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Speaker 1: admired the most about Peter was his absolute fierce competitive spirit.

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Speaker 1: He was an absolute competitor. He had those eyes, right,

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Speaker 1: he had those eyes that were just like you could

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Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was awesome because I used to

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Speaker 1: play him on my saga Genesis. I used to have

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Speaker 1: a good segue. Actually my question is hockey related. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I've been I stay here. I mean, as a

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Speaker 1: into what men don't talk about. Men usually talk about things,

427
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: the game, the truck, politics, they talk about things. They

428
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: don't talk about what's going on in our hearts and

429
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: what's going on in our lives. And I'm married to one.

430
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Speaker 1: So get him to listen to this show. Get him,

431
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: we should get him on. Maybe we should get him on.

432
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Speaker 1: Oh that would be amazing. I can't imagine what he like.

433
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Speaker 1: You ever want a challenge of someone who like he's German.

434
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Speaker 1: He just turned fifty this year, so he's a little

435
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Speaker 1: bit older. He is like, I mean, awesome guy. Obviously

436
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Speaker 1: I'm married to him, Like you want to challenge try

437
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: and pick through him? That be awesome. Okay, we could

438
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Speaker 1: have von um, but um, I just thank you so

439
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: much for listening. Thank you when when people reach out

440
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: to us and say they listened to the show or

441
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: they removed or impacted by something we did on the show.

442
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: And and also just thank you so much for the

443
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: hockey questions. There's so much thanks talking about it, and

444
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: I wish you the best and I wish your abs

445
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: the best. They're a fantastic team therefore having a good

446
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: year this year, so they're so fun to watch. They

447
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: have such some young studs that are just amazing hockey players. So, um,

448
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: I love that you called in about hockey. A lot

449
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: of people will call in about music, so Gavin gets

450
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. But I love that you called it.

451
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: I do, I do. The music is my other love,

452
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: but hockey will always be there. So awesome. Thank you

453
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: so much, Ali, We appreciate it. And I'd love if

454
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Speaker 1: you can send me that letter, if you get to

455
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Speaker 1: send a picture, and I'll respond to you and I'd

456
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: love to read that. Thank you for your thoughts, your sentiments,

457
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: thank you for listening, sending you love on your journey. Alie.

458
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Speaker 1: All right, thank you appreciating Bye bye. I always love

459
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Speaker 1: to hear from our listeners, We read your d M.

460
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Speaker 1: But also you can call us um with your question

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Speaker 1: that one eight four three zero seventy seven. And we

462
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Speaker 1: have a caller on the line right now who's been

463
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Speaker 1: God bless her heart. She's been on hold for a

464
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Speaker 1: million years. Um, but we have Helenda with us. Helenda,

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Speaker 1: welcome to how many thanks? How are you hi? I'm good,

466
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Speaker 1: it's been it's only been over however, that's okay. I apologize,

467
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Speaker 1: I'm so story, but I'm here to help you as

468
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Speaker 1: best I can. He Linda, what is your question? Um?

469
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Speaker 1: Life post rides on my mind a lot. So how

470
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Speaker 1: do I like being on my own two feet and

471
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Speaker 1: like a fishing moving out? I think I want to

472
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Speaker 1: get start a career in another state and then just

473
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Speaker 1: like building my life from there. Um, it's is actually

474
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Speaker 1: a very exciting time, Helenda. It's actually I know it's

475
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Speaker 1: very scary. UM. I'm trying to reference like my own experience.

476
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: I remember when I moved away from home. I was

477
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Speaker 1: I had just turned six when I moved away from

478
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Speaker 1: home to pursue hockey, and I remember I remember not

479
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: being ready for it. I remember being away from my

480
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: parents for three weeks or a month, I was playing

481
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: hockey and I loved it, but I remember I was

482
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: I was crying in the basement. I was crying because

483
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: I missed my family so much. And I wrote a

484
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: letter to my parents UM and basically said, I'm coming home.

485
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm ready to come home. I can't do this, this

486
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: is too hard for me, UM, I want to come home.

487
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: And I put it in my desk drawer in my

488
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Speaker 1: bedroom and I just never ended up mailing it. And

489
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Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't, But somehow I found

490
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Speaker 1: the courage to continue on. There was there was a dream.

491
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: I had, the dream of playing in the National Hockey League,

492
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Speaker 1: and I knew that that dream would die if I

493
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Speaker 1: went back home, and so I had to find the

494
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Speaker 1: courage to continue on. And I believe that all of

495
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Speaker 1: that is within you. I fully believe that all of

496
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Speaker 1: that is within you as well. Yeah, I fully and

497
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Speaker 1: And I wish I could lay out he Linda for

498
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Speaker 1: you steps. I wish I was better and I could

499
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Speaker 1: lay out exact steps. This is what I did, and

500
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Speaker 1: then this is what I did. I don't have that

501
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: for you right now, but I do feel and firmly

502
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: believe that everything you need is within you, and I

503
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: actually really feel that you're going to be actually more

504
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: than okay the world if you If you, I think

505
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: there's two ways to view the world, and you view

506
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Speaker 1: it as something f fearful or you you view it

507
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: as something as of an opportunity. And I hope that

508
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Speaker 1: you're able to adopt this sort of uncertainty as an

509
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Speaker 1: opportunity versus an obstacle. Yeah, are you able to have

510
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: this conversation with any friends or family members, anybody close

511
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: in your life that you can trust to open up

512
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: and share this like, this is what I'm really struggling

513
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: with And can can I just voice my concerns and

514
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: have you listen? And then I would love if you've

515
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: had any solutions to provide or advice to provide. Um,

516
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: I do, But I guess what I want to do

517
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: is like a little different than what my family has done.

518
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm first generation Americans, so the university's and fill embarrassing.

519
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: That's not something they've really gone through. I have my

520
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: older brother, Um, oh my godmothers. But so are you

521
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: the first member of your family to go to university?

522
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: Kind of yeah, in my household, in your household, brother, Yeah,

523
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: my brother's he's going to But you know, are you

524
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: feeling a burden of responsibility of that you don't have

525
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: this amazing opportunity and feeling the weight of it within

526
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: your household because maybe you are the first to go

527
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Speaker 1: to university and there's an expectation that may come with that. No,

528
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Speaker 1: it's not so much that. It's more like I know

529
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Speaker 1: what I want to do, but like I just don't know,

530
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Speaker 1: like what steps that take. I don't know how, So

531
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Speaker 1: like when that day comes, um, because there's a lot

532
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Speaker 1: of stuff to figure out and plan out, Like the

533
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: first thing to do is find a job and then

534
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Speaker 1: find an apartment and then find a car, um, because

535
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Speaker 1: I'd like to move out of the space from where

536
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Speaker 1: I am. Okay, So, so the how the how really

537
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: trips a lot of people out. The how the how

538
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: stops people in their tracks, you know, And I like

539
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a barrier of entry that that

540
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: resilient people pushed through and that stops other people in

541
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: their track and it makes me think of, Um, I

542
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 1: can't remember which US president was, but he said, we're

543
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna send a man to the mood, We're gonna put

544
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: a man on the moon and bring him home safely,

545
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: and he didn't know how. He didn't know how, but

546
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: he knew what he wanted to do, and they wanted

547
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: space exploration. They wanted to be the first country to

548
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Speaker 1: land on the moon. So he knew the what, and

549
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: then he he he challenged the nation and his people

550
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: to figure out the how. But as long as you

551
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: know the what and you believe in the power of

552
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: the what and the why. So you know what you

553
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: want to do, you want to be, let's let's even

554
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: start there. You want to be in apparel merchandizing. Is

555
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: that what you want to do? Do you want to do? State?

556
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: I hear if you say that, Yeah, I want to

557
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: like that's like fashion related production merchandizing. Um, even like

558
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: life and style, homegood anything in design like that, That's

559
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: what I want to do. Okay, So that's wonderful because

560
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know what they want to do. Myself,

561
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to included in that. I don't know

562
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: what I want to do with my life right now.

563
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: So um, that's wonderful that you know what you want

564
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: to do. And then you also said you want to

565
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: move out of state, So which state you currently live

566
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Speaker 1: in and which state do you think you might want

567
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: to move to. Well, Um, I live in cantonas and

568
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Florida because Florida is against start But why Florida?

569
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: What's appealing to you about Florida? Um? I think it's

570
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: a good city here, that's a good start for me

571
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: where I could find work in. Um, I feel like

572
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: if he's like law Standalis in New York City, like,

573
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: that's too I guess far out there for me to

574
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Speaker 1: start out in. Okay, I think I think ending my

575
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: career in New York. I think a few decades from now,

576
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: i'd like to maybe be somewhere in New York. Cool, right,

577
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: Florida would be probably a good place to start. Awesome,

578
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: that's fantastic. And I have no judgment. I don't think

579
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Speaker 1: one is better than the other endea. I was just curious. Okay,

580
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: so you live in Kansas. Do you want to move

581
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Speaker 1: out of state? And Florida is kind of on your radar? Now?

582
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: My next question is why do you want to create

583
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Speaker 1: this life? Why do you want to be in design

584
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Speaker 1: and apparel merchandizing and all of that, and and why

585
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: is it important to you that you pursue this. Why

586
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: not give this up? Yeah? Um, it's something I believe.

587
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: We all have our gifts, whether it's math or science, athletics.

588
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: Mine isn't like I've always loved anything artistic, anything in

589
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: design that since I was a kid, I knew that's

590
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: what I like. I knew that's what I enjoyed, and

591
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: I knew that's what um I got praised for. So

592
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: so since I was a kid, I had this idea

593
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: and I'm evolving that that dream, I guess into this

594
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: big goal that I have at the end. They have

595
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: always I've known since I was a kid, I enjoyed.

596
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: That's amazing. So in your in your in your life,

597
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: because what we're all seeking, truly is happiness. What you

598
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: would be happy. The reason why you wanted to pursue

599
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: this is that it would make you happy and fulfilled

600
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: and expressed and you're good at it. Yeah, and yeah,

601
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: I like my work to be out there and have

602
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: like my vision sort of come to life and have

603
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: that be admired by the public. I guess, Okay, So

604
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: what happens if you don't do this? I mean, I

605
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: have the drive for it. I feel like if it's

606
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: a no brainer that you just want to keep getting

607
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: up and doing something, which that's me. I I don't

608
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: want to settle. Um. I don't really have a planned

609
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: be at least I don't think I do. But I know,

610
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: um what you know, it takes time, and I know

611
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: no one starts at the top, which is I feel

612
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: like as a as a young girl, I don't like

613
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: get things done quickly. But it's about doing things correct

614
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: for you in your life, not getting it done fast.

615
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, I agree with you. Things happen when they're

616
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: supposed to, not when you want them to. UM. I've

617
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: actually been reading a lot on that. To Linda, I've

618
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: actually been that exact thing that you just mentioned. I've

619
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: been reading a lot on that, um. And what I've

620
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: been reading is it's called the law of least effort

621
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: um nature. The tree will become the tree when the

622
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: tree is meant to become the tree, but rest assured

623
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: it will feel fulfill its entire potential when it's supposed to.

624
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: It does not rush, you know, it does not force itself.

625
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: It just grows as it's naturally supposed to grow. And

626
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: just some some of the laws of nature. I have

627
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: been observing those trying to apply them to my own life,

628
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: and it's taken the pressure to accelerate everything which we

629
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: put on ourselves. Um. We're achievers. We desire to achieve,

630
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: so we put this pressure on ourselves to accelerate things,

631
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: and it's kind of taken that pressure off that what

632
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: will be will be just by nature. So I love

633
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: that you're twenty two, almost twenty two and you have

634
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: that mindset already. I'm just learning this and I'm thirty six,

635
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: so your fourteen years ahead of me. Girl, You're doing great. UM.

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00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: I also I want to touch on one thing. The

637
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: reason why I asked you is what happens if you

638
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: don't do this? Um. One of the main components of

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Speaker 1: That's truly my dream. Um. So I wanted to ask you,

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Speaker 1: I was terrified of what mine would look like and

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Speaker 1: Have you given that any thought? How you will feel

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Speaker 1: That terrified me, But that fear was less than the

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Speaker 1: fear of what would my life look like if I

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Speaker 1: didn't pursue my dreams as far as I can possibly

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Speaker 1: firmly believe that you do. So I think you are.

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Speaker 1: I think you're wonderfully poised for success and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do great things in the world. He Linda, You've got

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Speaker 1: a fan here. Thank you, You're welcome. Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: house that I buy. I'm going to call you and

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Speaker 1: have you hear your design the whole thing. I'm also

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Speaker 1: so I need help in all regards to Linda. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'll do that, Okay, deal, Okay, Um. I wish you

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Speaker 1: all the best and much love to you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'll do that, and I'll follow not just

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Speaker 1: follow you on Instagram. I love it. I appreciate it. Girl. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thanks for calling. Thank you. It was awesome. Awesome, Okay,

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Speaker 1: have a great day. Thank you, bye bye. That was

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Speaker 1: help people's lives. I hope I was able to do

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