1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: Radio radio Radio. He's a myth and bullshit radio phonic novella. 2 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Local Radio hosted by Malamo Olalla. Welcome back to local Radio. 3 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back Local motives. This is Mala and this is 4 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Diosa and we are last locals. Thank you so much 5 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: for tuning in once again to Yes, thank you for 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: tuning into thirty three. Um. Just to remind folks and 7 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: any new listeners, Local Radio is a podcast archiving the 8 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: brilliance and legacies of women and fans of color. Oh yes, 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: we are, thank you for being here. It's such a 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: beautiful day Radio and boil Heights. I mean it's raining 11 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: and it's gloomy, but it's still a beautiful day. We're 12 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: here and we're joined by but we're joined by a 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: lovely human. Hey, what's up. Thank you so much for 14 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: having me. Yes, we have the uncomparable cat Lozo in 15 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: the building. Yes, I love that. I'm going to use 16 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: that in my bio. Yes you can steal that if 17 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: you like. Yes, okay, so we have a really exciting 18 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: interview ready for y'all. But before that, we always like 19 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: to do some little housekeeping recap, do all those fun things. Um. 20 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: So recently we released our episode thirty two with Bella Donna, 21 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: Yea and Italia from Bella Donna. Thank you for folks 22 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: that have listened for the feedback. It's been really interesting 23 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: to see books engage and to talk with us positive 24 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: or negative. Like. Feedback is always really good, especially since 25 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: that interview is very different from anything we've done before. 26 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Very different. I think in the past, our caps have 27 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: been more us just discussing topics and our guests have 28 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: been talking about their projects and things like that, but 29 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: we haven't addressed like a controversy, right, We haven't addressed 30 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: really like an intra community like issue that's actually going on, 31 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: like in real life, like in our actual community with 32 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: actually you know what I mean. So it was it 33 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: was a difficult interview I think for us to approach. Yes, 34 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: it was um and I just wanted to be clear 35 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: that for folks that have tuned in like and folks 36 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: that like just don't want to listen because of the 37 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: interviews with Belladonna, because that is what someone has actually said. 38 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: We've got several comments like, oh, I'm not going to 39 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: pay attention to anything Belladonna. Meanwhile, like commenting multiple times 40 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: right right, right, right, but not wanting to listen exactly. 41 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: But so if you did listen and you're listening now, 42 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be known that, like the tumbler 43 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: post that's circulated, like, yes, that behavior was problematic, and 44 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: the way that no one has ever denied that. We 45 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: have never denied that. The point of the interview is 46 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: that we cannot just cut people off that are in 47 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: our community and that are still creating, and that we 48 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: have to allow people to grow and do better, which 49 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: is the point of the interview, not that what has 50 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: been done wasn't problematic, but that people can actually change 51 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: and we can you know, reconstruct stuff. In addition, it's like, look, um, 52 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: if you don't want to funk with them, then don't 53 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: funk with them. You don't have to support them, you 54 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: don't have to follow them, you don't have to give 55 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: them your money, you know, like lots of us do 56 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: not give our businesses to organizations, corporations, brands that we 57 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: don't like that we that we find problematic. Right, But 58 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: remember like not working with somebody and not supporting them 59 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: is not the same thing as intentionally and viciously like 60 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: attacking them, you know, and and threats. It's not nowhere. 61 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Nowhere did we say like, oh, the call out wasn't constructive. 62 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: We were saying that the types of comments were not productive, right, 63 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: So I just want that distinction to be made because 64 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: that's really important. Were never like, oh, yes they never 65 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: did anything wrong. No, we all funk up, we all 66 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: make mistakes, right, So I just want that to be 67 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: to be put out there. Yeah, and I think also 68 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: call out versus drag. Yes, yes, we weren't saying don't 69 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: call them out, don't drag them, don't send women death threats. 70 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, if you're initiating a drag, you can't 71 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: control it and where it goes and what it becomes. 72 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: You can't control how other people are going to participate 73 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: and jump into it, and if you know, just keep 74 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: that in mind that it gets ugly and maybe that 75 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: wasn't your intention, but that's what ends up happening, right, 76 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: And anything on the Internet, once it's out there, like 77 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: anything goes right. So I always keep that in mind, 78 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: all right. So on top of you know, different topics 79 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: from new topic, new topic, if we want to recap 80 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: on gumbieton it was so much fun. It was so 81 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: much fun. Let's talk about I did I've been quiet. 82 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, am I supposed to know? Yeah? 83 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: It was, it was list it was lit. I am 84 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: half Columbian, so I appreciated the Kumba. Yes, and there 85 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: was a Colombian Cumbia group last night and she killed it. 86 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: She was solled that I had heard of her in 87 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: her band, but I had never seen her live and 88 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: she was so good. And she's from up north. Yes, 89 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: she's from Oakland. She's from Oakland, I believe. I'm sorry 90 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: if we're mistakes, but she is from the Bay. M Yeah, 91 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: and was a lot of fun. We were the femcis 92 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: for the evening and both of you did an amazing 93 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: job and a comparable job. Random applause, thank you, thank you, 94 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: we do we do um and Yeah, the party was good, 95 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: the vibes were good. We met some listeners, we met 96 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: him the listeners, and there were people's fun came up 97 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: from San Diego and I think some people came from 98 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: In addition to the artists that came from the Bay, 99 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: there were party people that came from the Bay to 100 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: come hang out. It was at Civic Center, Students. We 101 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: want to shout out DJ Sizzel fantastic and collective for 102 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: putting on such an amazing, amazing nights and for inviting 103 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: us to be a part of it. It was a 104 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. And 105 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: it was also in celebration of International Women's Day and 106 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: International Women's Months. Um So, yeah, just a night to 107 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: celebrate women and fems and always really, I mean, it's 108 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: always a celebration. We don't need a reason, we don't 109 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: need an occasion. No, we do not to celebrate ourselves. No, 110 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: you don't have to tell me twice. And then the 111 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: other exciting thing that was going on yesterday and that's 112 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: been going on, is that we all grow summits. Do 113 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: you want to tell us about it? Or you weren't there? 114 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: Never mind that was you was also here those who 115 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: can't see right behind Raquel, Riquel went, maybe Riquel will 116 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: tell us about it later she wants to, but Cat's 117 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: here for her own. I'm very delirious, you guys right now. 118 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 1: I mean I saw the event via Instagram and social 119 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: and it looked amazing. It looks so beautiful. It looked 120 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: like so many amazing women were, you know, working together. 121 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: I was very jealous that I was not there some 122 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: amazing panels. So same we could not make it due 123 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: to work. Thing we really wanted to next year they 124 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: make us go to work. It's horrible. Capitalism is terrible. 125 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: I know there's so mean, but yeah, so so Cat. Yes, Cat, 126 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: you're back in l A. A A full disclosure. The last 127 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: time Cat was in l A, we tried to record 128 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: with her and we sucked up the recording. This this 129 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: is take to I'm just saying. I'm just saying this 130 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: is transparency is important behind the scenes. We're learning as 131 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: we go, so we're trying again. Thank you for being here, absolutely, 132 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: And I'm also excited because when we did the when 133 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: we tried to do the interview was like a very 134 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: short like ten minutes, like a mini So it's not 135 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: really happy that we get to actually sit down and 136 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: have a full length look at this. A couple of 137 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: months and I get like a full episode and we 138 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: brunched recently. I just want a whole new like mommy friendship. 139 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: Can we talk about we sure can? I'm down to 140 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: talk about brunch. Where do we start? What do we 141 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: talk about first? With Cat? What do you want to 142 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: talk about first? I want to talk about everyone who 143 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: came in my d MS watching you dance, who were 144 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: just like in all of you. Who was like, who 145 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: is this? Who is this crew that you're rolling with? 146 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, stay jealous. From brunch the brunch, there 147 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: was a lot of There are a lot of video 148 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: circulating of my lad that day we took over the restaurant. 149 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: And the thing is it wasn't a bar, it was 150 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: a restaurant and people. It was amazing, amazing we took 151 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: over day. We actually took over. Yeah, it was a 152 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: scalt and Kay town and we just the bottomless I 153 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: need at least great food. By the way, who it 154 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: was delicious, but I think we need a couple of 155 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: months before we can go back. I need a diskuy. 156 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm down. This weekend, I was on my best behavior. 157 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: You were. I was maybe like I was doing good. 158 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: You absolutely were. I don't know, you want to know why, 159 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: because I actually I wanted to keep doing stuff and 160 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, when you brunch, that's kind of it, like 161 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: you know you're not going to do anything the rest 162 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: of the day. So I was like, no, like I 163 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: have to drink water adult, right, I was like at 164 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: a grocery shop, I have to fucking meal prep. Okay, 165 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: I know I was a little boring, but it's okay 166 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: next time. But you're behave. I tend to behave. Yeah, 167 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: we are occasions. Can I just say that when brunch started, 168 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: I actually thought to myself, I'm like, oh, this is 169 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: going to be a nice, like low key brunch. And 170 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: then fast forward later, I'm like, nap, I was my favorite? Hilarious, Yes, Raquel, 171 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: my favorite are the i G videos of me and 172 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Roquel's working on the fountain and on each other. That 173 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: is my favorite video. Girl. Yeah, those are the stories 174 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 1: that I'm talking about that people were like, who is 175 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: it that needs to be a gift? Did anyone say it? Honest? Yeah? 176 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: I think maybe maybe not. I have to go back archives. True. Um, 177 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: so I think we want to get into our segond 178 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: want to get into our segment of Oya Lokas where 179 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: we answer listener questions. Yes, I actually didn't pull up 180 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: the songs, so I'm going to do it right now. Um. 181 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: But also, thank you guys so much for continuing continuing 182 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: to send us questions. Um, we love them. So oh 183 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: yeah back, oh yeah, can you hear it? All? Right? 184 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: Oh yea, look us let's do it? What do you 185 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: guys want to know about? So we have a first question, 186 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: um and I wanted to pick a balance of like 187 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: a really lighthearted one and then a more like intense one. Um. 188 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: So this one is what is your favorite lip color? 189 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: Which I love? I love talking about makeup. We can 190 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: do well yesterday. I am rocking right now. Viva Cosmetics. Yeah, 191 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: and I am rocking. I think it is modernita. So 192 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm feeling this color right now. Really, people actually looked great. Yes, 193 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: I love it. I am also wearing Viva Cosmetics, um 194 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: Gothic on niche, which I picked up last night. Also, 195 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: this was not like, this is a coincidence. We did 196 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: not plan the us on this. But you know, when 197 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: you have given you shade, you want to wear as 198 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: soon as possible, right, um So yeah, Viva Cosmetics if 199 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: you haven't checked them out there on Instagram, they have 200 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: a website. You can purchase their liquid lipsticks to Latinos 201 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: behind the brand and they're super dope. They say that 202 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: their lipstics are taco proof, which I think they are 203 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: because this is not moving everything. Yes, I like the 204 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: red one. They're red one that I don't remember what 205 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: it's called. I think, Yeah, they sent us thank you 206 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: so much, thank you. Leave in and the v girls 207 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: were there less where they were selling and we met 208 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: them and they were super sweet, so nice to meet, 209 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: so beautiful. Y'all are amazing. And I told them I 210 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: was like that red lippy is dangerous. Leave no trace, honey, 211 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: no evidence. You know what I mean? It's really good, right, 212 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would say for me, I like a 213 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: red I like a red um. I also like dark 214 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: colors on me. I also like nudes, So you like 215 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: all the like of them. I think they all look 216 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: really good on me. That's my answer. You can't go 217 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: bad with like a good red lip, though, I agree, true, Yeah, 218 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: it can really tie a look together. Really like it. Alright. 219 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: So next question, um, okay, So the listener asked, as 220 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: as light skinned Latinas us, how do you actively elevate 221 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: darker skin Latinas who are indigenous or after Latinos, how 222 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: do you hold your friends and family accountable? M hmm. 223 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: That's a good question. And I'm really happy that you're 224 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: here because I think that this is a topic that 225 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: you have touched on many times in the cat Call. Yeah, 226 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: so we've addressed this in season one with you know, 227 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: why are novellas or white UM kind of amplifying the 228 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: colorism that exists in UM specifically like Latin American media 229 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: and novellas. But to answer this question, so I guess 230 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: with the example of even the cat call, I think 231 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: I try to make sure that folks have a seat 232 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: at the table. So that's writers researchers like also that 233 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: people get paid UM, that their work is going to 234 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: be amplified. And for a lot of the time, it's 235 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: also just stepping back UM, knowing your your place, So 236 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: I think, UM. Unfortunately, fortunately because I am in front 237 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: of the camera, I do get a lot of requests 238 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: often UM, come speak for this, come come to my 239 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: college to do this, or you know, we want you 240 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: in this video. And UM, I can't speak for all women, 241 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: I can't speak for all latina's UM. And so I 242 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: think it is our duty to do work that maybe 243 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: is sometimes not seen UM, and make sure that you're 244 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: recommending folks that you make sure that they get paid. 245 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: There's like one particular event that I remember where someone 246 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: invited me to come speak. There was um Nafro Latina 247 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: who was also speaking with me, and I asked him like, well, 248 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: I want to get paid. Oh and she had done 249 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: the event twice prior to me, and I asked him, like, 250 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: I want to get paid and they were like, yeah, yeah, sure, 251 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna pay you like this X amount. And I'm 252 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: like perfect. So I DM homegirl and I'm like, hey, um, 253 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: you're getting paid to right. She's like no, I've never 254 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: gotten paid. I'm like oh no, no, no, no, no 255 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: no no. I was like, ask them, tell them you 256 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: want to get paid. This is how much I'm getting paid. 257 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: So make sure that that's the exact amount, if not more, 258 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: since you've been doing this. So I think it's about 259 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: UM just using whatever type of power you have in 260 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: order to UM, you know, hold people accountable and make 261 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: sure that you know your home girls are rightfully compensated 262 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: UM credited also for their work. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's great. 263 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: That's fabulous. I think that the examples you gave are 264 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: also like real world, tangible and tangible material examples. The 265 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: discussion that we were having before we started recording is 266 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: I feel myself that because so much of our time 267 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: and our energy and like our work is online and 268 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: on the internet, it's very like visual right, we look 269 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: at a lot of pictures and images. I think a 270 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: lot of times when people are asking, like for you 271 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: to represent or uplift darker skinned people, what they're asking 272 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: for is like, well, are you posting about after Latinas 273 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: and are you posting pictures of darker skinned people? And 274 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: my thing is like, that's not uplifting, right, That's very performative, 275 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: And there are real concrete ways in real life in 276 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: the world that you do the choices that you make 277 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: to ensure that again, you're not taking up space where 278 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: you're not needed, right, where you're staying in your lane. 279 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: That a job that should go to an Afro Latina, 280 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: a black woman, a Native woman, goes to that person, right, 281 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: and not to you. Um. In the work that I do, 282 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: many many, many, many, many many many of my clients 283 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: right are just the range of race and ethnicity. I 284 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: work with a lot of black women, I work with 285 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: a lot of undocumented women. I work with every type 286 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: of Latina imaginable. Right. So for me, when I'm thinking 287 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: about uplifting people who are darker than me or who 288 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: are marginalized, I'm thinking about how in my work day 289 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: to day, am I helping you to get into housing, 290 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: and am I putting effort to make sure you're getting 291 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: a restraining order? Am I helping you to to change 292 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: your address confidentially and change your name confidentially and to 293 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: relocate confidentially so that you can be safe. So if 294 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: you're asking me how do I uplift people, it's by 295 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: doing that right, by working, so that that would be 296 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: my answer to that question. Yeah, um, I like to 297 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: I think another tangible ways to shop local and to 298 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: shop from black owned businesses and Latina owned businesses, um. 299 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: Like Specifically, whenever I'm buying like crystals or any type 300 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: of like holistic anything, I always I try. I try 301 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: my best to figure like to either like go on 302 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: Instagram and like find the boutiques and go out of 303 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: my way or order online those kinds of things. So 304 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of women, um black women and Latina's 305 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: indigenous women that are selling on Instagram especially, so you 306 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: can have like the social media aspect of it and 307 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: then also support um those local owned businesses. So I 308 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: think that to give your actual money, you know, if 309 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: you're going to be buying something, especially crystals especially, you 310 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: know these things that are that are often co opted 311 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: by white folks, and you can see them at Urban outfitters. 312 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: You can buy sage at Urban outfitters don't buy sage. 313 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: Different outfitters do not, you know, you know what I mean, 314 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: like go to your Botannica, give your money to the 315 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: small businesses. I think that that's that's really important. And 316 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: if I'm shopping local and I'm shopping small and I 317 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: need to know that it's POC owned, black owned. Yes, yeah, 318 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: that's really important to where your dollars going. Where's in fact, 319 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: financial support going right in person? You're in person again, 320 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: like in real life on the ground support, you know. 321 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: And I also wanted to say that, you know, I 322 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: don't have I don't know the name. I'll have to 323 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: find it and I'll post it on our Instagram. But 324 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: there was recently a um it's a liquid I think 325 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: it's a liquid lip company and it's black owned. Black 326 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 1: woman owns it and they're just going to be carrying 327 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: it at Target and it's like super amazing and we'll 328 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: post about it. I can't remember the name, but I 329 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: remember that Shark Tank actually like rejected it. Remember that, 330 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: and now it's like a multimillion dollar or a million 331 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: dollar you know company, they're doing really well, so we'll 332 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: post it so y'all can also shop from the report. 333 00:18:49,680 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: We're going to do our song break and friends and 334 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 1: friends and friends and and and and friends and um 335 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: um um um um um um um um of it 336 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: and little Ship and we're back all right. So for 337 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: those that are unfamiliar, which I don't think any of 338 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: our listeners are, but just in case, Cat Lazo is 339 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: a director, producer, writer, and visual storyteller. She also works 340 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: at Meat to We Are Me Who, So shout out, um, 341 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: we want to talk about the cat Call like because 342 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: I know you're like in season two right now. Season 343 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: two is airing and right now I'm actually in l 344 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: A purposely to start production on season three. So excited 345 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: I I started shooting next week. Can you give us 346 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: a little like cat Call history? Yeah? Absolutely? Um. So 347 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: part of that history is actually prior to me working 348 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: at me Through, I had my own YouTube channel. Um, 349 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, prior to that, I wanted to be an actress. 350 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: When I was younger, I literally wanted to be like 351 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: the next Natalie Portman. So I studied acting. I went 352 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: to a performing art high school. If y'all are familiar 353 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: with fame the movie. That's the school I went to. Yes, 354 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: I graduated UM, and I was faced with the reality 355 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: of the industry, which was they didn't care if I 356 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: studied four years of classical theater, you know, Shakespeare. All 357 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: they cared about was whether I could fit this really 358 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: narrow stereotype. You know, so going audition after audition, casting 359 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: directors asking me that was great, but can you say 360 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: that a little more urban or you know, how well 361 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: could I, like, you know, move my neck or snap 362 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: my tongue. It was lots of that. So it was 363 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: very dreaming on my emotional health. UM And basically since then, 364 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: I've just constantly been trying to find ways of how 365 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: to change the industry within UM. I worked in casting 366 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: for a little bit. Then I studied advertising marketing communications, 367 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, I can't work in advertising. They're 368 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: gonna hate me for my morals and so very stereotypical. 369 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: I was about to graduate and I'm like, what do 370 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: I do? I know, I'll start at YouTube. It sounds 371 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: very cliche, millennial, but it that is what I did. 372 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: UM And Yeah, and so I had the cats me 373 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: out where I just had fun, like just doing skits 374 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: and vlogs just lots of UM from my perspective, lots 375 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: of like media representation, breakdown kind of things. UM. And 376 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: then when I got hired by me Through, it was 377 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: almost a very easy, um and seamless transition to now 378 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: be like they basically gave me autonomy and we're like, 379 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do, and I'm like, I 380 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: have a great idea. UM. And the idea really came 381 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: from also because our audience. I started seeing how our 382 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: audience um was not so receptive. So we talked about 383 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: the about meant well yes, um and so. But instead 384 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: of you know, brushing it off and being like, oh 385 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: my god, you know our audience is like ignorant or 386 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: my god, they're so hateful, UM, I thought like, okay, 387 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: let's combine what they love, right, Like, our audience really 388 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: loves those like meme skits like slapstick kind of like 389 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: comedic stuff. UM, so why don't I take that type 390 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: of format and then like insert a vlog where it's 391 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: like educational, um, you know, high pace, like very fast 392 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: but always accessible. UM. So my hope was to basically 393 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: target you know, our our commenters and UM, give them 394 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: an accessible like series that can break down topics like colorism, homophobiaming, 395 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: things of that nature. And yeah, and so now thankfully 396 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: it's been successful. Um, and it's no, no, no, hold on, 397 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to fix that. I said that with my 398 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: high pitched voice, and I'm going to say it has 399 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: been successful period. Yeah, and now we're on we're on 400 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: season three. So yeah, that's amazing. Congratulations on the new season. 401 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much. Yeah, I'm looking forward 402 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: to it. And it seems like it's been quite the journey. 403 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: It sure has, girl, Yes it has. It's a lot 404 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: of work, I think, Um. I think a lot of 405 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: people don't realize that. Um, I'm not just in front 406 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: of the camera for these videos. I'm conceptualizing. I'm directing 407 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: the first season. I edited the entire first season, I 408 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: wrote the entire first UM season. Then, thankfully, you know, 409 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: because of its success, I was able to on writers 410 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: um of different backgrounds. Um, I was able to bring 411 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: on a researcher. So yeah, it's it's a lot of work. 412 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: But I love what I do and I love the reaction, 413 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: both the good and the bad. And I will say 414 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: that equally. I enjoyed the people who will still don't 415 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: get it, will combat me and that's okay. And then 416 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: the people who you know send me d M screenshots 417 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: of the videos being played in high schools or in 418 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: colleges and I'm like, yes, this is exactly what I wanted. Absolutely. 419 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: I want to ask cat because you know us, I think, 420 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: especially for women who are doing anything online, and especially 421 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: women who are talking about what you talk about social 422 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: justice issues, I know that you get a lot of hate. 423 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: People don't like you and they are just being straight 424 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: up sucking mean and they're kind of obsessive maybe, And 425 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: how do you navigate that? Just like the hate? Um? Well, 426 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: it's interesting because it's hard to decipher. It's taken me 427 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: some time to decipher when someone is truly just being 428 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: mean um, and whether someone is actually trying, like just 429 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: doesn't get it um. And maybe it's just coming from 430 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: a more angry, hateful place. Um. But in all honesty, UM, 431 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: I do so down rereading the comments now, um, which 432 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: you know pains me to say because because of the 433 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: negative comments, I miss out sometimes on the positive comments. 434 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: So I do give myself some breathers. Um. Um. The 435 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: folks I meet through also, I've had conversations with them 436 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: about please like I don't want to see these type 437 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: of comments. So if there's anything type of like violence, UM, 438 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: I will say that maybe the biggest thing that ever 439 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: really hurt me was like when folks were rallying, it 440 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: was like one of our top comments, people were like, UM, 441 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: firect fire cat. I was like, oh my god, this 442 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: is my job, you gotta do um. But thankfully you 443 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: know me through was like no, it's fine, like you 444 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: still have a job. This is why we wanted you can. 445 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: I ask what was that about? Well, you know what 446 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: it is is Ultimately, UM, I think my videos and 447 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: the content that I'm addressing, um, disrupts the natural like 448 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: the feed. Right. So if they've only been consuming um, 449 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: comedic things that are just distractions, and maybe this one 450 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: is making them think, then I think there's a little 451 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: bit of anchor there. It's like, why are you coming 452 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: and changing this page that I like so much? So 453 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: I think it's their way of being like, get her off. 454 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: We don't want to see this type of content. I'm 455 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: okay with just being strictly distracted. UM. But yeah, interesting, 456 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: very interesting when folks want to come from people's jobs 457 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: like like it's one look, it really is one thing. 458 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: If you are freaking here's the imbalance, right, sexual predator, rapist, 459 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein and all of them were allowed to literally 460 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: rape people for for decades and people protected them. You 461 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: annoy somebody and they want you fired right now. That 462 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: is what we call a witch hunt. Let me just say, 463 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: I have not thought, wow that that connection right there. 464 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: You just blew my mind. It's sucked up. It's sucked up. 465 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: So when I again, so the violence, the aggression, the 466 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: dragging towards women creators over things that can be addressed 467 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: in a very like educational human manner, it doesn't make 468 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: sense to me. There's a discrepancy, there's a power imbalance, 469 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: and it's not cool, Like that's not cool, you know 470 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: that that they came for you in that way for 471 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: what you know. I wonder what those people would if, 472 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, had I been fired in the beginning of 473 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: season two or I forget when that happened, if had 474 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: I been fired as a result of their comments, I 475 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: wonder what those how those people would feel, you know, 476 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: like just thinking the repercussions of like what that could 477 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: have had on me or anyone else that people want 478 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: to rally and you know, advocate that they get fired. 479 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: I wonder if people actually think maybe it's that commenters 480 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: don't know the power that they have to because I know, 481 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: as companies like we spend time reading your comments, you know, 482 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: to know where we're where we need to facilitate more 483 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: conversation or what we're not addressing. So maybe there's also 484 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: a lack of education of folks behind the screen not 485 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: realizing their their actual power right being that too, it's 486 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: such an interesting like, like the dynamics are so weird 487 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: because I feel like people really do post on the 488 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: internet thinking that no one else is going to see 489 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: it or like that comment they comment, and like people 490 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: are going to see it and they're not going to 491 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: care about it, and you don't realize it's not just you. 492 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: There's literally millions of people on the Internet and people love, 493 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: people like to follow and jump on bandwagons, to be honest, 494 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, I think also 495 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: those comments that are targeted towards me, it's because I 496 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: make folks uncomfortable by you know, like I said, I'm 497 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: disrupting this feed and it's almost like your force via 498 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: swiping and and looking at the feed to now maybe 499 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: um see a mirror to yourself, and that's always been 500 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: my objective Also is with the Cack call, is that 501 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: I know that as a light skinned Latina, as a 502 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: middle class Latina, I cannot speak for all of us. 503 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: I cannot speak for the entire Latino X community. UM. 504 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: So the objective also with the Cack call was one 505 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: where I wanted to highlight a mirror on the ways 506 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: that we as a community UM oppressed one another, because 507 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the time, the conversation is how is 508 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: you know the outside, how are outsiders oppressing us? Which 509 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: is fine, and I think those conversations need to be had, 510 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: but I don't think that we often hold one another accountable, right, absolutely, No. 511 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: The intra the intra community conversations are so important because 512 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: there are hierarchies and the violences that are enacted on 513 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: us from the outside in in many ways, the same 514 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: hierarchies exist within our own communities. And I don't I 515 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: don't think we know that. I think because we have 516 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 1: this guys of like one that we're just a one, 517 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: that we're like a minority group, that we're quote unquote 518 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: all POC and like all of this is like mis education. Um. 519 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, and I don't think that people think of 520 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: it that way. I don't think they think that within 521 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: our community there is power structure. It's always a conversation 522 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: about how the outsider is, how the a k. A 523 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: white man, the Anglo white man is oppressing us, which 524 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: is valid, right, um so, and I think that that's 525 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: um I lost saying, but no thinking about one of yours, 526 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: going to say one of your compile tho, one of 527 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: your episodes, um, when you're talking about breaking down the 528 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: difference between race and ethness city, right, and so when 529 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: we're actually able to understand the difference, we can understand 530 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: the power structures. Like you're saying that that the power, 531 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: the hierarchy still is in our community even though it 532 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: is made maybe POC right. Yeah, so I think even 533 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: just folks don't under Latinos specifically don't. We're not really 534 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: taught the difference between race and ethnicity because it's so complicated, right, 535 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: and we know that, like the census has a lot 536 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: to do with the way like Hispanic identity has been 537 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: created in this country literally marketed. Yes, we've been marketed 538 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: in Brandon. Something that I see happening a lot is like, Okay, 539 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: it's such a complex conversation, but it's also simple at 540 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: the same time. Yes, right, And so I think also 541 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: a lot of Latino X people, especially if you are 542 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: and there's also parallel conversations about even using the term 543 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: light skinned is that is a term that originates in 544 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: African American communities and in black communities. So can non 545 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: black people even use that term to describe us ourselves there, 546 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: I've I've I've seen that conversation take place where that 547 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: the term light skinned is a Black term for black people, right, 548 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: But it's a term that we all use because even 549 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: in my house, my dad would describe us as light 550 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: skinned or whatever. However, right, because we come in all 551 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: these different colors in one family, you can have family 552 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: members that look like they're all different races. Me and 553 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: my dad in the face, we look alike, but I 554 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: we look like we could be of different racial locations, 555 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: essentially because he's much darker than me. And I think 556 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: with Latinos it's like, look, I have to contend with 557 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: the fact that everywhere I go, I present like this pale, right, 558 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm pretty light. My dad is not following me around 559 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: everywhere I go for people to see that this is 560 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: my people and who I come from, and this is 561 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: what I'm you know what I'm saying. So I think 562 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: that like there's like latinos like in the skin that 563 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: we're in we want to carry. But oh, but I'm 564 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: mixed with this, and but my grandma' is this, and 565 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: but my mom is this, and my dad is this. Okay, 566 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: but that's not what people are seeing when they see you. 567 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: And that I love that you brought that up because 568 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: it's very true, um, and you can bring that even 569 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: with class. Right. So for me, I think, um, colorism 570 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: was like one of the first things that I learned about, 571 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: and you know sexism just because you deal with it, 572 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: especially with auditioning. But but for me, class was one 573 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: of those more complex things to understand because of that 574 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: because I carried my parents story and their history right. 575 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: So the fact that you know, my father, both of 576 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: my parents, UM, came from South America. UM, my mother 577 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: has cleaned houses till this day. UM. And so like 578 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: their struggles I wore as mine. But then later on 579 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: acknowledging and realizing I'm like, okay, wait, those stories are 580 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: very valid, but at the same time, they're not my stories, 581 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: Like it's not my lived experience, and I think that 582 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: within our community, Like you said, I think we hold 583 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: our parents uh stories and struggles as if they are 584 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: our own, as if there are lived experience. I think 585 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: also there is the element to that in our families 586 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: and our communities. There is so much storytelling between our 587 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: parents and us. They are talking to us in my 588 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: family anyways, I'm hearing very consistently, ever since I was 589 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: a little kid, about this is our family history and 590 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: this is where we come from. I think our parents 591 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: also want I want to share that with us, you 592 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But that's the distinction, right that 593 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: you're coming up that you're talking about. Yeah, um so, 594 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 1: kind of to go in a different note, but still 595 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: of course talking about media and all of that. We 596 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: were all recently at the National Hispanic Media Coalition Impact 597 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: a War Impact um so I wanted us to talk 598 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: about that for a little bit. Um well, especially because 599 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: cads had a pretty big role at the Impact Awards. 600 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: Um you were doing interviews on the Red Car. I 601 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: would be me to correspondent and uh yeah, I had 602 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: the pleasure of interviewing folks like Aubrey Plaza un get 603 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 1: it at all and it was nerve wracking. I've definitely 604 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: embarrassed myself, but it was well worth it. You look fabulous. 605 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: Thank you. And in the midst of the entire program 606 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: where like all of these major celebrities are being awarded, 607 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: they gave Cat like a recognition, like a major shout 608 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: out in the middle of the whole thing, right, and 609 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: then they showed some of her work on the multiple 610 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: screens that were around. It was really really sweet. Yeah, 611 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: I was sweating. I was sweating. There was a big 612 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: drop of sweat that went down my book. I did 613 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: not see that happening. Congratulation. That's amazing. You mean you've 614 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: put in a lot of hard work, you know, and 615 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: like you do a lot in congratulations. Yes, so I 616 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: think we have. We're coming to a close now of 617 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: this already already, yes, fast, too quick. But thank you 618 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: cat so much. Do you have any announcements? Thanks for 619 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: our listeners to look forward to. Where did they check 620 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: out Cat Call Season three? Sure? 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