1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Bally BTT, an official sports betting partner of your Cleveland 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Brown's on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: You are your hosts, Bo. 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:31,839 Speaker 1: Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: Oh baby, we are outside. The fans are arriving. 8 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: You are looking live. 9 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: We are doing it live, and you are looking live. 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: Merely Bo the great Zi, this is gonna be I 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: like that one that's fast, bring these back. I think 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: that was the Tiger. Remember when Tiger said I'm not 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: going to work callers on a golf course and then 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: for him every club went in full panic and was like, 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: oh my god, how are we going to make sure 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: because everything said you have to have a ad to play. 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: And then I would say, that's probably around ten years old. 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 2: Is that fair? 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 3: No, it's it is actually not fair. 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: This is actually a I would say at most at 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: most five years old. 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: Really at most we. 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: Get a look at that logo. Let me wep my 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: beak on that logo. We're still brown face mass that 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: would have ever been Yeah, yeah, that's nice. It's like 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: a golf Henley. 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 4: Oh right, it's great, especially on a day like this. 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 4: It also hugs the physique. Oh you like that, you 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 4: love that, you got the shades on. Our future is 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: very bright, uneventful, huh. 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Now that no news has nothing to we have a day. 32 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: Ye give us a day a day if you're just 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: if you're just flipping on your radio or your stream 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: and have been off of social Some pretty big news 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: this morning is after ten NFL seasons, linebacker Jordan Hicks 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: announced his retirement from the NFL. Thirty three year old, 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: sort one hundred and thirty one games in his career Eagles, Cards, Bikes, Browns. 38 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: He's a Ohio native. I remember, I'm old enough to 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: remember him in the recruiting process. He was a five 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: star ye out of the Dayton area that that chose 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: Texas over Ohio State and then just had an awesome 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: career and was gonna be, you know, really central to 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: our plans on defense. 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 4: Did this come out of nowhere for you? Came out 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: of nowhere for me and a great many others. Yeah, 46 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 4: this was certainly a surprise to uh to I think 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 4: everybody in this building that you know, Jordan Hicks was 48 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 4: not going to be playing this year and it. Boy, 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: it was a linebacker room where we were saying, not 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: that long ago, man, how are they gonna, you know, 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: get everybody, all the guys they like on this roster. 52 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 4: And you know, I go back to the fact that 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: we're a team that lives in nickel. Yeah, and our 54 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 4: starting nickel or sub package linebackers were Jordan Hicks and 55 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 4: Jeremiah Usukormoa year ago. Neither of them will play football 56 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 4: this year, That's right. And so you know you brought 57 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: in Jerome Baker. But now Jason tarvor Is has got 58 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 4: his hands. Well, he's gonna have Carson Schwessinger now I 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 4: think becomes your my of the present. Yeah, and so 60 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: he's gonna have it. He's really gonna have to ramp 61 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: up quickly. I mean, you think about what is the challenge. 62 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 4: The biggest challenge for a Mike linebacker is you're really 63 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: the quarterback of the defense. And so you're the one 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 4: who when you're making checks or you think something and 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 4: the quarterbacks making checks and you're making checks to their checks, 66 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 4: and you're playing that chess match. That's what the great ones, 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: the great ones at that position know what's coming before 68 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 4: it comes and you talk about the Fred Warners and 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: the Rokwan Smith's and the guys of that level. That's 70 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: what they do, that's what separates something. You talk about 71 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: quarterbacks who know that a lot of times, they know 72 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: our plays as well as we do. They know what's 73 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: coming as well as we do. And so that is 74 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: a big advantage in this league. And that is not 75 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: something that the Cleveland Browns are gonna have from that 76 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: experience level at that mike linebacker position. 77 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: Now, Devin Bush has done it in the past. 78 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 4: You know, mamud Diabat's onliness years, but has not been 79 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: a full time starter in this league. And so when 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: you think about this schedule and you think about the 81 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 4: fact that over the first four weeks, you're going to 82 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 4: be going against Joe Burrow, kind of from Carson Swessenger's standpoint, 83 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: ye Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love, and Jared Goff. 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: I mean, think about the fact that we talked about 85 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: on the Quarterbacks program that the Lions a year ago 86 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: noticed something that happened in a game against the Chicago 87 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: Bears where Jordan Love actually stumbled out of center, and 88 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: they brought that back in a purposefully deceitful stumble called 89 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: stumblebum to get the same mike linebacker to react the 90 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: same way for a touchdown on a tight end leak, 91 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: and that's exactly what they got. So you're talking about 92 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: the mike linebacker is really kind of the key in 93 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 4: the chess match that's going to be played, and Carson's 94 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: not going to have a lot of that background information 95 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: that a Jordan Hicks will have for those matchups. So 96 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: he's done a great job by all accounts. He know 97 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: Jason Tarver was thrilled with what he's done. But this 98 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 4: is a significant loss. And it's a significant loss because 99 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: not only is he not going to play for the 100 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns, it's also is he going to He's not 101 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: gonna get that knowledge passed on to him in meeting 102 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: rooms or on the field in real time from Jordan Hicks. 103 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: And so this is a significant, significant loss, I think 104 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: for the Cleveland Browns because of that. Now you drafted 105 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 4: Carson Swessinger third overall. I'm sorry, thirty third overall, just 106 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 4: picking the second round, so that what he's going to 107 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: be an impact player? Well, guess what, In the words 108 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: of John Cena, the time is now, Yeah, I mean 109 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: the pressure on him is immense. 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean immense. 111 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: If you think about when he was drafted, we were 112 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: holding out hope that you would still have Jeremiah husu Koramo. 113 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: I think most of us probably saw the writing on 114 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: the wall a little bit with that. But at the 115 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: same time, you were holding out hope. I mean, there 116 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: was nothing definitive at the time of draft, and you 117 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: certainly thought that Jordan Nickx would be there. Now you 118 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: look at Carson Sweesher and you say, wow, like he 119 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: is going to be in every down line he needs 120 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: to be quickly and every down linebacker, a dynamic player, 121 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: a captain of the defense all now. 122 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 4: Now, it's got to happen right now, right now, and 123 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: you're you know, the good news is in his room 124 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: around him, You've got guys that you know, have been here. 125 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: Devin Bush at least for one year. He's the now, 126 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 4: he's the most senior guy. He and Jerome Baker are 127 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 4: the most senior guys in that show. Bush has one 128 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 4: year in the system. Jerome Baker doesn't even have a 129 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: game in the system yet. 130 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 5: No. 131 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: Mamoud dia Bat probably has the most reps of anybody 132 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: in this system, and he's been here. 133 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: He's a third year guy. 134 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 135 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: And then you've got the the second year players when 136 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 4: Winston Reid and Nathaniel Watson, Bookie Watson, that to me 137 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: looks like that's your six linebackers. If the Browns do 138 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 4: keep six, at the end of the day, they may 139 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: go five. But I think for special teams, that's one 140 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 4: of the things I always tell fans when you're out 141 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: here at your training camp, watch the punt teams. Watch 142 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 4: the first team punt teams. Watch who's in those protections 143 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 4: because often and those are guys that you know, certainly 144 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: the special team coordinator thinks is going to be here 145 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: and gets them the reps accordingly. But this was a 146 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 4: big This is a big one. I mean, here we 147 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: are a couple of days in. We don't have the 148 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: guy that was we thought was gonna be our starting 149 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: running back. We have we have not yet seen the 150 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: guy that would then be the running back if it 151 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: were not to be quin Shawn Jenkins and Jerome Ford, 152 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: who's who's dealing with a little bit of a nagging injury. 153 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: We had yesterday a quarterback situation that you know, we're 154 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: gonna talk with Kevin Stefanski, but I guarantee the word 155 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: that he would say that was untenable. Yesterday we had 156 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: a red zone period where Shador Sanders did not get 157 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: a real rep because of bad snaps, multiple bad snaps 158 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: and then twice. 159 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: You know, we talked about it after the first ay. 160 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 4: Julian Aquara and Cam Thomas and Joe Tryon Shoyinka are 161 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 4: so far ahead of the third string tackles. Yeah, these 162 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 4: are pros who have sacked the quarterback many times the 163 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: National Football League. I'm pretty I think a Quora may 164 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: have been a fourth round pick. Thomas was a third 165 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: round pick. Tryon shoyinco was a first round pick against 166 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: guys that were not drafted, that are trying to, you know, 167 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: make a team. Here as maybe that fourth tackle and 168 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: it has been rough. So basically, in four plays, one 169 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: was a bad snap like eight yards wide left. Two 170 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: of them, Aquara may have been able to receive the 171 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: snap he was in the backfield so quickly. Another one 172 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: was a bad snap where he ended up getting sick. 173 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: He didn't get a pass off in a red zone 174 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: because of the five in front of him, and so, 175 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 4: you know, how can you even evaluate a quarterback in 176 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 4: that situation. Now they did stay after and the rookies, 177 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 4: both Gabriel and Shador, got more eleven on eleven work. 178 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 4: That was part of you know, kind of like an 179 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 4: opportunity period for those young guys. But you know, you 180 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: were trying to get good red zone work there and 181 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 4: you were not able to get it for Schadeur in 182 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: this case because of what was going on around him. 183 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: So you got that to deal with. 184 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: And if you're trying to get these evaluations, you know, 185 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: that makes it almost impossible. Like that was almost a 186 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: wasted five play series right there for the offense, and you. 187 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: Just you don't have any to waste. No, you're trying 188 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: to do this, which comes to that, and it's something 189 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: we're monitoring every day, and obviously you're monitoring it. Yesterday 190 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: we'll do training can't practice number three today, which'll be 191 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: here in about little less than an hour. But the 192 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: reality is when you are you can't. This is a 193 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: real truth. You really cannot prepare four quarterbacks. No, you can't, 194 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: especially when two of them are rookies, and so this 195 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: has to be paired. It's it's happening already. And so 196 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: yesterday it was Flaco first, and then Kenny and then 197 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: Dylan and then Shador. That was kind of the way 198 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: that it went. But there's just no way, there's no 199 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: way you can get four guys ready. So in pretty 200 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: short order, this, if this is truly a four person competition, 201 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: which it's hard to believe that it's possible that it 202 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 2: could be, this has to be tightened up really really quickly, 203 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: very quickly. Based on what you just said, right there 204 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 2: is just the latest example of it. 205 00:09:58,760 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's tough. 206 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: That's really tough because you want, especially for these young 207 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 4: guys to get good, good reps and good opportunities, and 208 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 4: certainly yesterday you were not afforded that. Now hopefully as 209 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: things ramp up, you will, things will get better and 210 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 4: they'll be tightened up. I mean, if i'm you know, 211 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: our third string center right here, you know, Brady Latham, 212 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta make sure my snaps are on point, right. 213 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's just the elementary deer Watson, like, 214 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: we got to get that the bass, got to get 215 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: to the quarterback and give him an opportunity to make 216 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: a play. 217 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys we're getting some type 218 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: of a buzz. There's just popping something that's happened over there. 219 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: I think it's away. 220 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 6: We'regan. 221 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: We're good, Yeah, we're good. Defense has looked very good. 222 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: Obviously the front has looked very good. I thought yesterday 223 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 4: Mason Graham really popped, especially when you went back and 224 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: watched the tape. He was in the backfield a lot. 225 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 4: And I think that there is palpable excitement and good 226 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: reason for it for this front. And you know, we 227 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: talked yesterday with Joe Tryan Shoyinka about you know, the way, 228 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: and they've got legitimate waves that tackle. Yesterday Alex Wright 229 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: got to start over McGuire opposite Miles. Miles is always 230 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 4: in the backfield, he's a problem, but Alex Wright was 231 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: making place. McGuire's making plays. Try and shink is making plays, 232 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 4: so Chuir's making place, Cam Thomas making places. They got 233 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 4: six defensive nds making plays, and then in the middle. 234 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: I thought Mason Graham really stood out as well Malie Collins. 235 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: And you know, we're excited to see him get to 236 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: be next to at some point my call, which we 237 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 4: have not yet gotten to see as he is day 238 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 4: to day. 239 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: But then again, aren't we all was that Eisen? I 240 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: think it was Eisen and DP. 241 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what it was. I think I 242 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: think it was it was old school. 243 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: Sports, end your day to day. But then again, I 244 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: think it may have been It may have been DP. 245 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: It was DP or eyes and I can picture them 246 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: both saying it. Yeah, I don't remember which one said 247 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: it first. So true, so good, all right? So when 248 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: so that that's what's happening. We will have a practice 249 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: here in about forty eight minutes where we're going to 250 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: start to get going. We see some guys already starting 251 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: to mill about out here and start to get loose. 252 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: It's it's interesting. I don't think it was a former 253 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: player or not. I'm not sure, but there was a 254 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: rather large human who looked in the size range yeah, 255 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: wearing a Nick Chubb jersey, and I just thought, God, almighty, Yeah, 256 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: that's this speaks to there are a ton of guys 257 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: that are here for the recent successes, and then there's 258 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: just a ton of new faces as well. And this 259 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: linebacker room is probably gonna up being the best example 260 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: of it. But yeah, a lot of new faces. I 261 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: think we got the head coach making his way over here. 262 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: We quick note the Browns have signed Winston Wright and 263 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: undrafted rookie out of East Carolina who's a wide room 264 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 4: for And the reason is yesterday we were having to 265 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 4: have equipment. 266 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 3: Guys catch passes. 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Ballely Bet, official 277 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: sportsminning partner of your Cleveland Browns. Day three of camp 278 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 2: about to commence. The man in charge of it is 279 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 2: sitting to our left, your two time NFL Coach of 280 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: the Year, Kevin Stefanski, joining us. Two practices in how 281 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 2: we doing? Man, we have work to do. 282 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 7: You know that's the overwhelming feeling of coaches is you 283 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 7: get out here and you're like all right, we got 284 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 7: to clean that up. 285 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 6: We got to clean that up. 286 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: We got to clean that up. 287 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 7: And the fun part for us is making corrections and 288 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 7: then try not to make that same mistake again. So 289 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 7: you want the coaches the players to feel an urgency 290 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 7: early in camp, and they certainly feel that. 291 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 4: But we got a long way to go before we 292 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: get into some of the news of the day. Obviously, 293 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: where are we in the ramp up period? Fans coming today? 294 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 4: What can people expect to see out there? 295 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can. 296 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 7: Today's the first day that you can put on shells 297 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 7: or what some people call spiders. They're the soft things 298 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 7: on anywhere's shoulder, so not shoulder pads just yet. Those 299 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 7: don't come till next week. So we've been in helmets 300 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 7: the last two days. Finally the shells go on. I 301 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 7: think it's a two hour limit on when you can 302 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 7: be on the field, And what happens is the league 303 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 7: starts that clock the second you start coaching your players, 304 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 7: So we'll get started I think at about one forty today. 305 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 7: Once that starts, you got to basically hit the horn 306 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 7: and exit the field by three forty. So they're very 307 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 7: serious about the ramp up in terms of time and 308 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 7: what you can do. So we're those are the parameters 309 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 7: that we're under. But we'll get into some really good 310 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 7: work in today. We'll get some team drills, some seven 311 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 7: on seven drills, obviously special teams. So we'll kind of 312 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 7: hit a bunch of different areas, including the red zone today. 313 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 4: So is this like Brown's time. If it says practice 314 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 4: starts at two, it really starts at one. That's on 315 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 4: my high school coach. 316 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, if you're on time, you're late, right right, So 317 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 7: but now we I guess practice starts at two, but 318 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 7: really we start one. P fifty starts with our special 319 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 7: team's jog through, and you'll start seeing guys trickling out 320 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 7: here at one forty. So that's when the coaches can 321 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 7: can start coaching. 322 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: Coach the news this morning of Jordan Hicks's retirement, how 323 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: does that hit you? Any sense that it was coming? 324 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: Where's the organization with that? 325 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, no sense that it was coming. Jordan's a guy 326 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 7: that I have a ton of respect for, and I 327 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 7: respect his decision. Obviously, he thought very long and hard 328 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 7: about this, and he got in here and felt you know, 329 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 7: obviously talked to and I'll let Jordan's pick for himself, 330 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 7: but he was. You know, I have so much respect 331 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 7: for him and I want what's best for him. 332 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 6: Obviously. 333 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 7: You know, Jordan's in the category of players. As an 334 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 7: offensive coach, there's guys that you coach against that are 335 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 7: a pain in the butt to go against. It particularly, 336 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 7: there's these linebackers and safeties that call out to play 337 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 7: before it's even coming. 338 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: He's in that category. 339 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 7: Now, having said that, being on the same side of him, you. 340 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 6: Love him great. 341 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 7: He played really good football for US last year, and 342 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 7: he's played great football in his career. You know, Jim 343 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 7: and Jordan have a long history. But I can't say 344 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 7: enough about the player because he played really good for us. 345 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 7: But the person off the field just a rock star 346 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 7: human being. I wish him a ton of success in 347 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 7: whatever endeavors he has after this. But he's been really 348 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 7: good for the game of football. 349 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: A lot of the chess match that happens is between 350 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: that Mike linebacker and the play caller at times, or 351 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: the quarterback, the checks, the checks to the checks, all 352 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 4: of that. 353 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: And now you know, we start off with Joe. 354 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 4: Burrow and Lamar and Jordan Love and Jared Goff and 355 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: We're likely going to have a guy in Carson Swessinger 356 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: out there who has not done that. So how do 357 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 4: you you know, we talk about getting the quarterbacks ramped 358 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 4: up ready to go. This is the quarterback of the 359 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: defense in many ways. Get him ramped up and ready 360 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: to go. 361 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd say Carson among a bunch of those guys, Nathan, 362 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 7: I'd say, I really, you know that entire group of 363 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 7: linebackers will be up to the challenge. You know, you 364 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 7: got to replace guys sometimes due to injury. Sometimes in 365 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 7: this case, you know, Jordan is retiring, which is totally 366 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 7: a decision that we all respect. But those are shoes 367 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 7: to fill and we have candidates. Like you mentioned Carson. 368 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 7: He's a young player, but he's very mature. He's a 369 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 7: thinking man in this game. So there's a lot that 370 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 7: we feel like he can handle mentally. But he's a 371 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 7: young player. So I can think of even yesterday, there's 372 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 7: a couple of mistakes that are made at that position. 373 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 7: And then you with great players, like you know, young players, 374 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 7: you want to be a great player is get you 375 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 7: make a mistake, you make a correction, you don't make 376 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 7: it again. 377 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: Yep. 378 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: Coach Last week talked was at the end of mandatory 379 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 2: mini camp, and we talked about this plan that you 380 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: were going to put together with the quarterbacks and just 381 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: acknowledging that there just isn't enough reps. There's never be 382 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: enough reps. As a coach, how's it gone so far 383 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: and will there be any adjustment or is the plan 384 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: going the way you thought it would be in terms 385 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 2: of making sure everybody gets the reps enough. 386 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we're comfortable and confident in the plan 387 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 7: through these first four days. I obviously you have a 388 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 7: plan moving forward, but you want to take in information. 389 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 7: I want to see how these guys are performing in 390 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 7: different areas. And that's not you know, just an individual 391 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 7: or just in a team period or justin seven on seven. 392 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 7: It's really an all encompassing evaluation. So I think the 393 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 7: guys are doing a great job. You know, That's one 394 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 7: thing I would point out. You know, with four quarterbacks 395 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 7: that you're repping, these are four good guys. These are 396 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 7: good people. These are guys that love football, that love 397 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 7: to practice, that love to sit in there in the 398 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 7: meeting room and really talk. Also, I am we are blessed. 399 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 7: I'm so fortunate to sit in there and and talk 400 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 7: football with Joe, Kenny, Schadur, Dylan and these guys, and 401 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 7: they're we're coaching them up off the reps. Uh Deshaun 402 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 7: in there, Tommy Reese, Bill Musgrave. This is a fun 403 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 7: group that can really dive into all the things about 404 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 7: football that that we love. So that's what I appreciate 405 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 7: about those guys. Now, I haven't said that like you 406 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 7: like you said Bo, you know you're trying to maximize 407 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 7: all their reps. I'm sure every single one of those 408 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 7: guys would want every single one of the reps. I 409 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 7: get that, But how can you get better even if 410 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 7: you're behind, standing behind and getting that mental rep that. 411 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 7: That's what we're trying to do. Even in walkthrough, you know, 412 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 7: I would say this, we're maximizing our time and walk through. 413 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 7: So we're even doing a lot of two spots in 414 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 7: walk through, both offensively and defensively to make sure that 415 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 7: we're utilizing the time available to us as best we can. 416 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: As the head coach, you get to be happy about 417 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 4: anything that happens. It might be better for the defense 418 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 4: one time better. I can't lose, can't lose. Kenny had 419 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: the great crosser to Jerry Judy the first day yesterday 420 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: Delpit ended up getting him was when he went back 421 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: and watched it was just a case of the ball 422 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: being too far inside. 423 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's you know, that's football. 424 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 7: I think playing this quarterback position, it's an occupational hazard 425 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 7: that you're gonna throw an interception. Sure, that's gonna happen 426 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 7: in football. Can you learn from it, that's the great thing. 427 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 7: So with that play in particular, we're probably a hitch 428 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 7: too late. And then and then we gotta as quarterbacks, 429 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 7: got to know our miss. You know, there's some incompletions 430 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 7: that you're like, hey, of course you'd love to complete that, 431 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 7: but I love your miss. I love that it was 432 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 7: out in front and those type of things. So it's 433 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 7: all learning. I thought it was a great play by Grant. 434 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 7: I thought it was a good route by Blake, great 435 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 7: play by Grant. That that's two sides making each other 436 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 7: better just by competing at the highest level. 437 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 4: You talked about those reps and how they are hard 438 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 4: to come by, and we had a red zone period 439 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: I say with Shador where snap issues defensive guys in 440 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 4: the backfield, you weren't able to really get probably from 441 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 4: the quarterback perspective, what. 442 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: You wanted out of there. 443 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 4: It's a good win for the defense, obviously, but how 444 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: do you kind of try to balance that out going forward? 445 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have we have to clean a lot of 446 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: that up. 447 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 7: You don't want reps that the balls on the ground 448 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 7: and a fumble exchange or or whatever false started off sides. 449 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 7: That's that's that's hard for us to evaluate. So we 450 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 7: will repeat those plays. We repeated those plays that we 451 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 7: could get the reps. You don't want to just have 452 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 7: those plays going to the ether, so you just repeat 453 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 7: them and make sure that you don't miss them. 454 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: Coach, how do you balance you have so many you 455 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 2: look at kind of where we think a lot of this, 456 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: You have so many rookies who are gonna have to 457 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: be major contributors obviously Mason and Carson and Dylan and 458 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: who knows what else, but a lot of rookies in there. 459 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: How do you balance early camp giving them all that 460 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 2: they can handle, but not giving them too much where 461 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: they're drinking out of a fire hose and drownding. 462 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 6: What's this? 463 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: That's a good question. It is a balance. 464 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 7: You know, there's things that we're doing offensively that in 465 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 7: a game plan you'd really want to streamline and make 466 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 7: it easy and okay, hey we're doing this and reminder 467 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 7: of this in camp. 468 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 3: We want to see what they can handle. 469 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 7: We want to challenge our guys, and we know that 470 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 7: with challenging your guys, there may be some things that 471 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 7: aren't perfect. That's okay. I'd rather that than than just 472 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 7: build so slowly. So the other piece of that bows 473 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 7: we're trying to find out about our players from a 474 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 7: skill set standpoint and what can and can't they do. 475 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 7: And that's important to know. None of us are perfect. 476 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 7: So there's certain things that a player does and sees 477 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 7: really well, and there's certain things that they don't. So 478 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 7: let's find out what those things are. With rookies, you 479 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 7: have a tape on them, you have the off season program. 480 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 7: We haven't put pads on yet. So the evaluation process continues, 481 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 7: not just in terms of who's going to make our 482 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 7: fifty three, but also what are our guys good at. 483 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 7: What will be our strengths as a football team, what 484 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 7: are the things that we got to minimize maybe some 485 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 7: of our weaknesses. 486 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: You talk about competition all the time, and I think 487 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 3: take miles out of it. We know what his role 488 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: is going to be. 489 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 4: That defensive end room. There seems to be a lot 490 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 4: of talent in there. You guys bring in Tryon Shayinka, 491 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 4: you bring in Oquara camp Thomas played well for US 492 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: last year. Alex's back, Isaiah, is that a room that 493 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 4: you've kind of enjoyed watching early? Obviously you want the 494 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: pads on and see what it looks like, But it 495 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 4: feels like there are constantly plays being made from that 496 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 4: defensive end position. 497 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 8: Yeah. 498 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 7: Our backup defensive line is very deep. Yeah, you've seen that. 499 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 7: Where are our ones, twos and threes are playing really 500 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 7: at a high prose. 501 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 6: They're pros. 502 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 7: You got a guy like you mentioned Juliane and Joe 503 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 7: and these guys that have played a lot of football. 504 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 7: So it's a deep, deep group, which you know, I 505 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 7: appreciate that because we like to play multiple guys. 506 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: Coach, have a great practice. Yeah, everybody, stay healthy, Appreciate 507 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 2: your time. 508 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate you guys. 509 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 2: All right, there he goes, Kevin Spansky joining us here. 510 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: Practice number three set to start in about thirty five 511 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: minutes from now. Lots to get to here. Look forward 512 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: to painting the pictures for all of it. According to 513 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: the new clock. Oh, the new clock, the new clock fifty. 514 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: That's true, That's true. 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Here's your head coach 525 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski. 526 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 7: Against our police officers, Officer Philip Wagner, who lost his 527 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 7: life in this uh TO officers were injured, Officer Peter Gale, 528 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 7: Brent Payne. We are thinking about the community of Lorraine. 529 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 7: We're thinking about everybody in law enforcement that keeps us safe. 530 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 7: It's a it's a tough, tough news and I know 531 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 7: they're going through it and I just want them to 532 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 7: know we're thinking of them as they go through this 533 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 7: where they're they're start certainly in our thoughts and prayers, 534 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 7: I just want to make sure that we acknowledge that 535 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 7: before we get started. Want to acknowledge Jordan Hicks obviously 536 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 7: a player, a person that I have an amazing amount 537 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 7: of respect for. Jordan played really really good football for us, 538 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 7: played at an extremely high level, and he was even 539 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 7: better off the field than in what he was able 540 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 7: to give to this football team. So an amazing career, 541 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 7: one that needs to be celebrated. And just want you 542 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 7: to know that we support him. Obviously in his decision. 543 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 7: We'll miss him, but he's somebody that I have a 544 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 7: ton of respect for him. So if that'll take any. 545 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 9: Questions about that linebacker lift the linebacking Cory. It's such 546 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 9: a young group below Jerome and Devin. Just how much 547 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 9: more does it require them to I know they've played 548 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 9: some football, but not as much. How much is requirding 549 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 9: to kind of grew up as much off as on 550 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 9: the field. 551 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 7: I think that oftentimes happens Chris and football. When you 552 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 7: lose a player dude injury or retirement or whatever, there's 553 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 7: opportunities that come up for younger players. And you know, 554 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 7: in this day and age, young players play early in 555 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 7: this at these positions, so they may be counted on, 556 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 7: and that's why we're working so hard. That's why we're 557 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 7: trying to be efficient with everything we do, maximize every 558 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 7: rep and minute that we have with these young men 559 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 7: to get them. 560 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: Ready to play. He was thinking about retiring. 561 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 7: I would, yeah, I would let I don't want to 562 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 7: speak for Jordans, I'll let him speak for for himself. 563 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 7: But uh, you know, we talked earlier this week and 564 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 7: I support whatever. I obviously support whatever decision he made. 565 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: Kevin. Yesterday at the end of practice, is that what 566 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: you call an opportunity period? 567 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, We've always done that, you know, I am thinking. 568 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 7: I asked coach Schwartz if I can rebrand it to 569 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 7: hungry Dogs because coach has a great line that hungry 570 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 7: dogs run faster. So that may just be called our 571 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 7: hungry Dog period, but that's copyright Jim Schwartz. But the 572 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 7: idea there is, you know, some of the guys that 573 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 7: aren't inting a ton of reps, let's go get a 574 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 7: team period yesterday where we'll do skills and drills today, 575 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 7: we'll do a seven on seven another day. It's just 576 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 7: an opportunity for those guys to get better. 577 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 9: Kevin, I know You've been asked a lot about Shugar 578 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 9: since he has come in. Just all the attention, all 579 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 9: the focus, everything that you know, he he generates, you know, 580 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 9: as he says content, how of just the way you 581 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 9: how impriss have you been? 582 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 6: Just the way he's handled all. 583 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: Of that that that's come his work. 584 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Chador does a nice job of keeping 585 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 7: the main thing the main thing. He's working very hard 586 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 7: in the building, in the meeting room, in the weight room. 587 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 7: Out here on the field, he's working hard and keeping 588 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 7: his head down and attention that comes with it. And 589 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 7: in this day and age, that's something that our guys 590 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 7: do a great job of off the field, is including 591 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 7: our fans and what they're doing. But he does a 592 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 7: great job of keeping the focus where it needs to be. 593 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: You've been in the mix of place the first two 594 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: days he with his job. 595 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think all those things are what will work 596 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 7: through Tony. I don't think that we're setting a depth 597 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 7: chart in any way. 598 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 2: Since we talked to and we asked. 599 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 5: Him about that, he really hasn't got a chance to 600 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 5: want with the starters. And I know it's one of 601 00:26:59,040 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 5: the two days. 602 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 7: But will we see a little bit more of that 603 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 7: or or maybe the twos or something like that. 604 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: Today. 605 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, like I told you, guys, we'll continue to rep 606 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 7: these guys throughout the last couple of days. Next week 607 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 7: we'll move guys around. I think for any of our players, 608 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 7: it's really just focusing on what you have in front 609 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 7: of you. And he's done a great. 610 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 6: Job of them. 611 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: Because Mike Worts gonna be up there to day. 612 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 7: Mike will be out here today he's dealing with a 613 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 7: hand injury, but he maybe if he's not out here, 614 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 7: he's inside getting treatment. 615 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 10: So there was you signed a receiver this morning? 616 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 7: Did have anything to do with everything? Has everything to 617 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 7: do with everything, Scott, It's all connected. Yeah, yes, we'll 618 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 7: dream forwards, not today, but but progressing. 619 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 10: He's close Kevin period at the end that resident at 620 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 10: the end where Sugar was out there yesterday's bats and 621 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 10: I think there's a penalty. I guess what are the 622 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 10: coach Mots offered that especially for him and maybe how 623 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 10: he can handle that when things are going badly. 624 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 7: Well offensively, we have to do a much better job there. 625 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 8: That We had too many. 626 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 7: Operational issues, just center quarterback exchange. We had a false start. 627 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 7: So we can do a better job. And then you know, 628 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 7: we repeated those plays that we could get some reps. 629 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 7: But I think there's opportunities for quarterbacks. Even there will 630 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 7: be a play where the quarterback is likely sacked, you know, 631 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 7: if you're playing real football, But we continue to play 632 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 7: as quarterbacks so that we can get a rep of 633 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 7: off schedule, get a rep of scramble drill. So even 634 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 7: in those moments where yeah, things didn't go the way 635 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 7: that you want them. It's not clean, it's not three 636 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 7: and the hitch balls out, I think there's still plenty 637 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 7: to learn from those reps. 638 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 11: Would be easier though, or I don't know easier is. 639 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 8: The right part. 640 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 7: But when you are watching a good gala in the 641 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 7: center stamp change story is challenging. 642 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: Do you want to see him work with some higher 643 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: level of talent. 644 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 6: To see what he can actually do? 645 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's I understand the question. I would say, 646 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 7: we will continue to rep the guys in different with 647 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 7: different teams, centers, all all of that. And that was 648 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 7: you know, that was a we need to be better 649 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 7: in that period there, Mary Kay, which we will be today. 650 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 7: But you know I was saying earlier everything our players 651 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 7: do is a it's an all encompassing evaluation. It's it's 652 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 7: a it's never gonna be about one player, one period 653 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 7: here and there. It's gonna be about everything they do, 654 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 7: including uh, you know this preseason. 655 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 10: Kevin Martin Anderson, he said himself he was not happy 656 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 10: with the last season. 657 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 6: So what have you seen from him? I know it's 658 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 6: tent a couple of days here, but even many Kevin 659 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 6: now that may may be better. 660 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 8: Yeah. 661 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 7: MJ is a very determined young man. I appreciate that 662 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 7: he feels like he didn't play at his best. I mean, 663 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 7: he's right, He's got such a high ceiling. We've seen 664 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 7: him play at such a high level over the course 665 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 7: of time. He will bounce back. And it's no there's 666 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 7: no secret to it, there's no magic want It's just 667 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 7: from him working really, really hard. He's a kid that 668 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 7: is in here all the time, constantly working at his craft, 669 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 7: working on his body. So I expect him to have 670 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 7: a big, big bounce back here. 671 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 12: Kevin Dylan is talking about it, like when he's not 672 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 12: getting actual reps the stuff he does Janson or Gabriel, Oh, 673 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 12: Dylan Gabriel. When he's not getting actual reps, you know, 674 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 12: he values, those Nunnal reps and things like that. What 675 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 12: are your expectations of these guys when they're not actually 676 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 12: taking reps. 677 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 8: It's a good question. 678 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 7: I think you'll if you watch behind one of you know, 679 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 7: you have one player in there right, A lot of 680 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 7: times you'll see the quarterbacks behind walking through the play 681 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 7: as it's happening about twenty yards behind. I think that's 682 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 7: one way to get it. I think we have those 683 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 7: walk through rooms up there where you can put it 684 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 7: on a specific angle where you can get a full 685 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 7: speed rep and it's a terf floor in there, so 686 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 7: you can take a drop. So that's one way to 687 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 7: replicate it. But the term we've used is we're trying 688 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 7: to steal reps any which way we can. Of course, 689 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 7: the absolute best way is to be in in the 690 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 7: moment and get that rep. Unfortunately, you're not gonna get 691 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 7: every single rep, so how you find ways to steal 692 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 7: those you have to get creative about it. Good, good, 693 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 7: Thank you guys, appreciate it, Thank you. 694 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: All Right, there you go. Coach from the Podium. Presented 695 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: by Vivid Seeds Perchash Official Fan Experience package today for 696 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: the Ultimate Game Day, our team is matriculating its way 697 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: out here. We spent much of the early part of 698 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: the program and coach addressed too, with the sudden retirement 699 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: of Jordan Hicks. You just saw Carson Swesssinger run out 700 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: onto the practice field. 701 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 6: Man. 702 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: He's a big dude, buddy, and. 703 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: Two hundred and forty pounds, big, big guy can move. 704 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 4: Tarv likes his bend his hips. He was saying he 705 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 4: could walk with his hips. But whatever, whatever was, apparently 706 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: it's good for football, according to Tars. Tars was fired up. 707 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 4: But you know, you're very fortunate to have him in 708 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 4: that room as the coach, so much experience and defensive 709 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 4: coordinator in this league, defense coordinator in college. 710 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 3: Uh, and you know you're gonna need that. 711 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 4: You're gonna need the osmosis there because it's on right now. 712 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 4: It is absolutely on for Carson Swestinger right now. We 713 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 4: talked about that room. Meah mamud Diabotte could get some looks. 714 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 4: Devin Bush, you know, will get some looks. But you're 715 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 4: gonna need two or three of those guys out there, 716 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 4: and Carson's question is definitely going to be one of them. 717 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think there's any doubt in my 718 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 4: mind that he is now the guy in that linebacker 719 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 4: room that is going to have the biggest out, biggest 720 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 4: say on how that unit performs this year. 721 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: I mean it's between I mean it's yeah, I mean 722 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: cap of the defense. 723 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: He's the quarterback of the defense. And he got back 724 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 4: kind of what I talked about at the beginning of 725 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 4: the show. Kevin Sefanski put for you in real terms 726 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 4: there saying, when you are a play caller and you 727 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: have got that Mike linebacker on the other side, he said, 728 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 4: and sometimes it can be a safety. But those guys 729 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 4: who know what you're doing before the play is run 730 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 4: because they just they've studied so well, they know your formations, 731 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: they know your tendencies, and the advantage that that absolutely 732 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: gives a defense and why it's a pain in the 733 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 4: butt for a play caller and an offense. Well, here's 734 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 4: the thing that is now the situation honestly for you 735 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 4: know that that's where Carson Swesssinger has to get. That's 736 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 4: where he's got to get. And right now you know 737 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 4: he's hasn't played it a game. Yeah, come to say, 738 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 4: what's up to Gerard our broadcast colleaguely pure joy, absolute joy. 739 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: He's going. He's going the old school way there, layering it. 740 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: You go with a nice layer there to get that 741 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 2: sweat in. 742 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not at uh, not interested in sweating so much. 743 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 4: That's what that's all about right there, and he's going 744 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 4: to get after it, and we're actually well positioned. 745 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: He and Denzel Ward. 746 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 4: This is one of the things that people come a 747 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 4: training camp and you'll notice during special teams periods. You know, 748 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 4: Denzel Ward's not in special teams now during the season, 749 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 4: he actually will do some some field goal block because 750 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 4: he's so darned good getting off the edge and doing that. 751 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 4: But when they're in those periods, he will come over 752 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 4: with Brandon Lynch typically kind of right where we're situated here, 753 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 4: what direction are we on? 754 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: Gibe? Is this northeast south or west? Looking west? There 755 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 3: you go, man, that Montana upbringing. You know, you just 756 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 3: like you just look to the guy and you're like. 757 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in the northeast corner of the brown spot, 758 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: and I don't know which way you're looking. Word, where's 759 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: the horizon, where'd the sun come from? Where's it going? 760 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 3: Head west? Young friend. 761 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 4: So they're gonna do a lot of work kind of 762 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 4: in this this section, which is great. By the way, 763 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 4: Bernie here over there signing a bunch of autographs. Always 764 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 4: great to see the great Bernard. 765 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 6: It's awesome. 766 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: Join us at two o'clock. 767 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. 768 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 4: Well, and then we're gonna be able to break a 769 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 4: little news. I think I don't know if that's even 770 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 4: out there yet. 771 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: What what we have? A little surprising. I don't know, Bernie, 772 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: news and what's not? 773 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: I think it's news. No, no, no, no, no, no, 774 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: Like I don't know if it's been out there. 775 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 13: I don't. 776 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: I don't think. 777 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything. 778 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything about it. And I'm a part 779 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: of it. So that's right, right, at least I think 780 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 3: I am. 781 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 6: Yeah. 782 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: A couple of notes around the league. The Raiders release 783 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: defensive tackle Christian Wilkins with the designation of terminated Bested 784 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: Veteran due to how Wilkins treated the rehab from his 785 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 2: foot injury suffered last season. The Raiders voided the remaining 786 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: thirty two million dollars a guaranteed money left on his 787 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: co He has filed aggrievance with the NFLPA is a 788 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen first round pick from the Dolphins. The Raiders 789 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 2: signed in to a four year, one hundred and ten 790 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 2: million dollar extension last year. That's a big one. 791 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 4: They voided thirty five million dollars of his guarantees. Thirty 792 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 4: five million dollars of his guarantees. 793 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: That is you think that'll hold up. 794 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: It feels like it is without precedent. 795 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 4: I can't think of a time where somebody got that 796 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 4: kind of money taken away from them because the team 797 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 4: did not like how they rehabbed. 798 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: But that's where we are. 799 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: That is where we are. No rehab necessary for Justin Fields. 800 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: A big scare yesterday at Jets camp, thinking potentially in Achilles. 801 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 2: Turns out it was a tow. He was back at 802 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 2: practice this morning after being carted off. Officially he's day 803 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: to day, but he was there today, So I guess 804 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 2: he's not even. 805 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 4: That he's gonna be. He's fine, It's fine. Cart was 806 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 4: made a bigger deal. I guess we got. We got 807 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 4: a young a young guy out there working with the 808 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 4: corners and b Lynch. 809 00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: I like to see that. 810 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 13: I wonder if doctor Jacob that would be uh, that 811 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 13: would be be Lynch's son. Oh yeah, that's the youngest 812 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 13: one man Oh cool, that's the youngest one. He was 813 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 13: with us at Mandatory Mini camp. 814 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 3: Well, I was with my youngest son at that moment 815 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 3: as he was fresh, very new to the world, very 816 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 3: new to the world. 817 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: All right, let's we're gonna take a quick time out 818 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: on the other end of this. On the other side 819 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 2: of this quick time out, sure where Sanders will be 820 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 2: at the podium you listen to Cleveland Browns Daily eight 821 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 2: fifty ESPN Cleveland. 822 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, an official sports 823 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Brown's on eight fifty esp 824 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: and Cleveland. 825 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 2: All Right, let's head back from the podium, presented by 826 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: Vivid Seats first your visual fan Experience package today for 827 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 2: the ultimate game day. Here is rookie quarterback shout or Sanders. 828 00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 8: Less to be here? 829 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 14: Of course, I'm happy all y'all here, happy, uh that 830 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 14: the fans are able to be here, and I'm excited, 831 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 14: you know, to be a part of his team. 832 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: Had the way talk can grow with Doug back there. 833 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 14: Yeah, for serious a respect thing. You know, I know 834 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 14: a lot of people want the content. I know i'm'a produce, 835 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 14: so uh nah, I I never want to make anybody feel, 836 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 14: you know, any type of way about anything. So it 837 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 14: was important that he gets everything he needs to say 838 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 14: out and everybody captures what he has. 839 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 8: And then now you know I'm here, should hear? 840 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 9: How do you maximize I know that the reps are 841 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 9: being divided up to put four? How do you maximize 842 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 9: the time when you're not getting the reps? 843 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 6: What do you? 844 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 3: How do you what's what do you do to to. 845 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 8: Kind of take advantage of that? 846 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 14: I would say, just have a deeper level of understanding, 847 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 14: because I know whenever I get my opportunity, I gotta 848 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 14: maximize it. 849 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 8: So that's that's something you have to change in the mentality. 850 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 14: Uh standpoint, And a mental standpoint is though, Okay, I 851 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 14: just gotta think about what I could do to get 852 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 14: better even if I'm not getting reps in yeah, it's 853 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 14: no problem. 854 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 7: Some kinds of call about the mental intensity that they 855 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 7: wanna have at at training camp these first two days 856 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 7: and going into the third. 857 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 2: What's your mindset and how are you approaching that intensity? 858 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 8: I would say just learning. 859 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 14: Uh every day, Uh, of course I'm learning different things 860 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 14: cause I know the opportunity will come, and whenever it comes, 861 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 14: I wanna be able to know the ins and outs 862 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 14: and know the full everything, so I don't wanna really 863 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 14: make too many mistakes. 864 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 8: Uh when it's my time, we do you feel like 865 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 8: you're getting the uh the most comfort comfortable you know 866 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 8: coming back from any camping in the first companies in 867 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 8: a training camp, I say, definitely the playbook. 868 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm getting I'm getting uh super com super comfortable 869 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 14: in the playbook for sure, and it's helping me out, 870 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 14: you know, uh overall in the film should like to 871 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 14: sell you guys, since. 872 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 15: That you guys are a little short on bodies here 873 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 15: with house catchers like watching you yesterday and and early 874 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 15: part of practice and sometimes you're throwing to some of 875 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 15: the equipment guys, like how do you maximize those opportunities 876 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 15: even when it's not a past cutcher that. 877 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 6: What's gonna be acrosster? 878 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 8: Uh doesn't That doesn't really phase me. 879 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 14: You gotta understand, we we went, we came all the 880 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 14: way from HBCU to a Power five and then out 881 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 14: we here. So at this point, if you look around, 882 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 14: it's nothing, there's nothing, you know, that's that's a challenge. 883 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 8: I say, how were you approaching. 884 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 10: The four main competition as you get to training camp 885 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,720 Speaker 10: and as you get closer to y season and that week. 886 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 14: On, I'm focused on doing me. I'm focused on learning 887 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 14: what I need to learn. Uh, simply, it are you 888 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 14: thinking about winning that job for a week on? 889 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 8: I don't think. 890 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 14: I don't think nobody in this organization is here if 891 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 14: they're not tryna win. Honestly, Uh, I think you know, 892 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 14: they tryna win to who gives out the best water 893 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 14: and gatorades out here? So it it's definitely competition everything 894 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 14: in life. Uh, it's so many cameras out here. It's 895 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 14: definitely competition with content obviously, So I think everything in 896 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 14: life uh boils down the competition. 897 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 10: You've been a star for your entire life. 898 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 8: So how difficult is it to be patient that you said, waiting. 899 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 6: For your turn? 900 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 14: I'll say it's different phases in life, different things in 901 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 14: life you have to go through, you know, And that's 902 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 14: that's all it is. I'll say for me, it's building blocks, 903 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 14: you know. Sometimes I always always had to get uh 904 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 14: overly prepared and had to worry about a lot of 905 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 14: different things. Uh, just from my youth to high school 906 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 14: to college, and I never had a chance to I'll say, 907 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 14: sit back, and learn more in depth of everything. So 908 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 14: I was always thrown in the fire and and I 909 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 14: always I always exceeded expectations. 910 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 7: So yesterday Andrew Berry mentioned. 911 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 8: That, uh speeding Huh I figured so. 912 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, so he said that you. 913 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 9: Know, it wasn't smart. 914 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 6: He said, he talked to you, he said, Kevin. 915 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 5: Uh, Kevin said he also talked to you. 916 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 6: So I'm just wondering, you know, what did you learn 917 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 6: from that incident? 918 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? 919 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 8: I definitely learned how to drive fast at all. 920 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 14: So I I I really I really don't even drive 921 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 14: like that much anymore that much anymore, but I really 922 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 14: don't drive fast at all. So I definitely follow the rules. 923 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 14: And I hope everybody learn from my situation. You know 924 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 14: that not drive fast at all was a long, hot. 925 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: Day and you're the red zone period looked a little frustrating. 926 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 2: How frustrating was it? 927 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 9: That was? 928 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 4: Uh? 929 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 2: Praps, you're at at the end. 930 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 8: Nah th This is the thing I I it's I 931 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 8: don't never take anything. 932 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 14: It's frustrating because I know everybody tries they best, so 933 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 14: like even you know, throughout everything and cause and everything, 934 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 14: I was never frustrated ever at teammates and everybody cause 935 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 14: I know everybody's going out there doing their best. So 936 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 14: if you doing your best and you tell me, you 937 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 14: look me eye and tell me you doing your best. 938 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 14: I know I'm out here trying to do my best. 939 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 14: I know I make mistakes. I know you make mistakes. 940 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 14: So it's like, why would I be mad? We all 941 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 14: in similar situations, So that doesn't really frustrate me at all. 942 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 14: You know, it doesn't frustrate me being able to have 943 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,439 Speaker 14: an opportunity to We have days on days on days 944 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 14: and days just the relationships, and you know, you could 945 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 14: look at somebody, I'd be like, my bad bro, Like 946 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 14: that's that's that's what was I'm like, all good, It's 947 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 14: no problem, uh because those how much time everybody has 948 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 14: to spend together. It's about relationships overall. So I don't 949 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 14: I don't want any memories of me, you know, being 950 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 14: negative or being mad at any situation that happen. 951 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 2: We saw you at the book like you were at 952 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: the Rainbow. 953 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 6: UH Jurists event and UH really embedded in the community, 954 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 6: which you've done so much of that since you've been 955 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 6: here in this short time. 956 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 2: Why was it important for you to be there and 957 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 2: just be doing all the things that you've. 958 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 14: Been doing anything, Well, I say, it's definitely it's something 959 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 14: I feel like God put me here to do, you know, 960 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 14: re but whatever the situation is here, uh, the fact 961 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 14: I'm able to bring light to the community to uh 962 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 14: different situations, that's that's of course my calling. So yeah, 963 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 14: I'm just excited that, you know, one decision and one 964 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 14: thought is able to impact so many lives and and 965 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 14: how people remember that. So that's kind of That's kind 966 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 14: of like how I go about things. Nothing's ever like 967 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 14: I say, pre pre planned or well thought out plan like, 968 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 14: it's none of that. It's okay, I've one thought, all right, 969 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 14: let's do it, like and then that's just how that's 970 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 14: just how it goes. 971 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 8: I know you say you're trying to maximize those reps, 972 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 8: and you know factor matter. 973 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 7: I think it's probably like the fust amount of practice 974 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 7: reps you're getting, like maybe your your whole foot walk career. 975 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 9: Like, I'm curious when you can't take me inside what 976 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 9: is before practice? 977 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,720 Speaker 6: Look like? What is after practice? 978 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 7: Look Like you talked about you. 979 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 11: Know, the virtual walk, virtual reality, like you spend more 980 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 11: time with doing Okay, CONSI take me into. 981 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 14: That horn, that horn is sick. My fuck, bro, I 982 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 14: don't know who who cries the golf cars? Are they 983 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 14: fixing that? Because that is it is doing me all 984 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 14: my thoughts interrupted? Man, y'all could cut that. 985 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 8: It don't matter. 986 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but just what is what is like before practice? 987 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 13: Like? 988 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 8: What is after practice? 989 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 3: Look like? 990 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 8: To make sure to hate you? 991 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 14: Yeah, see, it ain't me, It ain't me doing that. 992 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 14: I don't know what it is, all right. I guess 993 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 14: they're busy right now. Before practice, of course, it's jotting 994 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,919 Speaker 14: down all the plays and it starts the night. 995 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 8: Before of course. 996 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 14: But training camp you get a lot of different plays 997 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 14: each day and you don't know who's gonna get in wet. 998 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 14: So that's the that's the exciting challenge that it is, Like, Dan, 999 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 14: you don't even know what rep you're gonna get, so 1000 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 14: you gotta be ready for everything. That's how it is, 1001 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 14: you know in games also, so dt down the plays, 1002 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 14: understand conceptually what it is. I'll say from Ricky Minnie 1003 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 14: camp and O T A S to now, I learned 1004 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 14: more and depth with everything, you know. So I'm just 1005 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 14: excited I'm able to uh have this approach with things 1006 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 14: and take full advantage of it. 1007 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 3: What about after practice? 1008 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 14: Oh, after practice, after practice, for sure, I gotta get 1009 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 14: a good meal in so that's the first thing, get 1010 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 14: a good meal in recovery, of course, and then uh 1011 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 14: getna iPad watch everything. Then then I can't give you 1012 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 14: too many details, and I try to cause I gotta 1013 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 14: when I go in practice, I gotta maximize my moment, 1014 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 14: so I gotta study our defense too. 1015 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 8: So that's what it is. 1016 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 6: All of us keep getting asked the same question, and 1017 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 6: none of us have the answer. 1018 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 13: So maybe you could give us the answer. 1019 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 2: Why aren't you getting any reps with the ones at 1020 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 2: any point? 1021 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 14: Uh, I don't think that's I don't think that's that's 1022 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 14: not my place, you know, to answer to, To even 1023 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 14: be able to give the answer to that. 1024 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 8: I feel like that's not in my control. 1025 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 14: So I'm not even gonna think about that or have 1026 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 14: that even in my thought process of why. It is like, 1027 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,760 Speaker 14: it's a lot of people that wanna have the opportunity 1028 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 14: to be at this level, and I'm here and I'm 1029 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 14: thankful to have the opportunity. 1030 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 8: So whenever that is, it is. 1031 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,720 Speaker 14: But it doesn't make me feel down or it doesn't 1032 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 14: make me feel left out or anything, because I know 1033 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 14: who I am as a person, I know who I 1034 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,919 Speaker 14: am as an individual, and I know what I could 1035 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 14: bring to this team. So I can never feel less 1036 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 14: than you know, in any circumstance. 1037 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 6: Your dad went down and visited, Yeah, so is he 1038 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 6: gonna come here and. 1039 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 14: Visit you as well? Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. 1040 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 14: I'm telling you when I tell you I was cut 1041 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 14: off from the world, I ain't it been. It been 1042 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 14: hard to even make phone calls, you know, obviously, cause 1043 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 14: you gotta have the decompressed time. Uh, for sure, after practice, 1044 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 14: So I taught, But recently I've just been following up 1045 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 14: with the other former. 1046 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 8: Like Buffalo players and stuff like that. So that's really 1047 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 8: who I've been talking to. 1048 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 11: Sure, when you say that, you know, there's been a 1049 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 11: little bit of everything as far as when you first 1050 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 11: got here to to now just in what regard it's 1051 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 11: just as far as like you know, growth and adjusting. Yeah, 1052 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 11: but what what's been the most impactful or significant point 1053 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 11: for you since you came in, Uh that rookie minie 1054 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 11: camps and now as you're getting to the early part 1055 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 11: of the better. 1056 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 8: Training camp in the football world. Yeah, it's a lot. 1057 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 8: It's hard. It's hard. 1058 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 14: It's hard to answer that because what's important and what 1059 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 14: I feel like the biggest thing could have been last week, 1060 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 14: is could have what I just learned today or yesterday. 1061 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 14: So it's always it's always consistent growth and it always 1062 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 14: feels like I just sawve you know, a puzzle or 1063 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 14: anything like all the time. So regardless if it's even 1064 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 14: relationships with the od line, relationships with the receivers, talking 1065 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 14: to Denzel, you know, playing with him, like playing with 1066 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 14: all the dbs, different type of stuff like that, is 1067 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 14: it's always it's always big, you know, it's always a 1068 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,479 Speaker 14: big moment. So I can't say what's exactly the biggest moment. 1069 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 14: I'll say just even connecting with the kicker like in 1070 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 14: the in the sign is just talking about God and everything. 1071 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 14: Like it's a lot of different moments and like unscripted 1072 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 14: things that just happen, So that could be the biggest moment. 1073 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 15: We heard from Bill Musgrave today. What's it been like 1074 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 15: working with him, especially knowing your. 1075 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 14: Dad, Yeah, cause cosmus Grave cool, Yeah, he real cool, 1076 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 14: and he always he always tells you definitely old terms 1077 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 14: like he he's like a history book, like he tells 1078 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 14: you so many stories about different things. 1079 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 8: So it makes it makes the room definitely, you know it. 1080 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 14: It's a bunch of different age ranges in the in 1081 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 14: the room, so it makes everything like, dang, he remembers. 1082 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 8: A lot of stuff from back then. I don't know it. 1083 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 8: It's new stories every day. So it's like and I'm 1084 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 8: fully bought in. I've never met them before coming to 1085 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 8: I'm believe. 1086 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 14: I would say, I would say probably in what was 1087 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 14: before you got drafted, whatever that was. 1088 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean like I mean, I. 1089 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 8: Guess, yeah, the pre draft process for sure. Yeah, I 1090 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 8: mean like before that you had I don't think so, 1091 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 8: and I don't remember back then, probably not. 1092 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 10: We know you have a huge followings. Fans are gonna 1093 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 10: be out here the first time today, first time you 1094 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 10: get the practice in front of Brons fans. What do 1095 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 10: you think that's gonna be? 1096 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 8: Like? 1097 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 10: What do you think the receptions can be. 1098 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 14: I'm definitely focused on getting completions when I get out there. 1099 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,399 Speaker 14: So the external is cool. I'm thankful for and I'm 1100 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 14: thankful for all y'all coming out here, being able to 1101 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 14: document everything and doing what y'all gotta do. But hey, 1102 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 14: when I get out there, I'm not thinking about it external. 1103 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 14: I'm thinking about more, you know, in the organization, thinking 1104 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 14: about getting the play calls, executing my job, doing what 1105 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 14: I gotta do. 1106 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 2: You got time for a couple more. 1107 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,399 Speaker 9: You've actually been involved in the community a lot since 1108 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 9: coming to helping out fans. 1109 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 2: Like the fire of the affortments. 1110 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 3: What do you think about so far? 1111 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 8: How do you like it? How have you felt with 1112 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 8: the fancy and that it's yeah, nah, it's it's it's exciting. 1113 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 1114 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 14: Whenever we at the KFC thing, it was so many 1115 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 14: people there, it's crazy. So it that type of stuff 1116 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 14: is just cool because, like I say, you live each 1117 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 14: day at a time. You don't know when anything happens. 1118 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 14: You know, you could be alive one day and past 1119 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 14: the next day. So it's like I like to be 1120 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 14: able to at least make my impact and for you 1121 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 14: to actually, you know, feel my energy while I'm here, 1122 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 14: you know, and while I'm alive, and why anybody else here, 1123 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 14: cause who knows. Anybody could get a job somewhere else 1124 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 14: and then be gone the next day, you know, and 1125 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 14: all you have the last thing is just the last memory. 1126 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 14: So I wanna at least make sure you know my 1127 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 14: impact and my m. What I'm remember for you know, 1128 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 14: here will always be good at any point. 1129 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 11: What do you feel like that the biggest adjustment for 1130 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 11: you has been going from college now being here, whether 1131 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 11: it's something on the field, whether it's the schedule now 1132 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 11: changing off the field. 1133 00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 6: What it's been like. 1134 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 8: I would say death. 1135 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 14: Definitely, like Chiloh not being there, I would say that's 1136 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 14: the biggest thing. That's the biggest change, Cause, like you know, Charlotte, 1137 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 14: he always he's the type to always find out and 1138 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 14: set up all like the house and stuff or set 1139 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 14: up all the different stuff. So now there's definitely a 1140 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 14: lot of responsibilities. 1141 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 8: I I gotta take care. 1142 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 6: Of now. 1143 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:21,919 Speaker 2: Real quick. 1144 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 6: We've seen a lot of guys, you know, come through 1145 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 6: your rookies and. 1146 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 11: You know, especially when you're so close to your family. 1147 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 5: You know, some guys do get homesick. 1148 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 7: They they don't adjust well to a new city. It 1149 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 7: it doesn't really seem like you're having that problem. 1150 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 4: But I mean, is that s is that? 1151 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 2: Is it so different to be. 1152 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 15: In a completely new environment away from I mean, you're. 1153 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 5: So close to Shiloh, so close to your dad. 1154 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, how's that gone for you? 1155 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 12: Just to be here and your whole new Digs. 1156 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 8: Well, I got a home here, so I'm comfortable. 1157 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 14: So so so I'm r extremely comfortable and we talk 1158 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 14: on FaceTime, so it's no different Like, yeah, we're guys, 1159 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 14: Like we're just gonna be on FaceTime. So it's no, 1160 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 14: it's no truly difference, I'll say. 1161 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 2: But one thing. 1162 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,479 Speaker 8: One thing. He definitely gives me tips and stuff. 1163 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 14: So I've got like a cold press juicer and then 1164 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 14: like I've been having to do that because he lived 1165 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 14: like three doors down from me in Colorado and I 1166 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 14: just walked to his house get juice. But now I 1167 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 14: gotta do it myself. So that's the hardest adjustment with everything. 1168 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 14: But other than that, I'm thankful for y'all coming out, 1169 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 14: you know, thank y'all. 1170 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 3: All right, there you go. 1171 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,439 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders from the podium, Birdie Kozar in an hour 1172 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 2: of training camp painting the pictures coming up next to 1173 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN flea. 1174 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally back an official sports 1175 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Brown's on a fifty esp 1176 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: and Cleveland. 1177 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 2: Attention of Browns Fans Parking Backers, Official Dog Fan Cliff 1178 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,919 Speaker 2: of your Cleeland Browns is back for the twenty twenty 1179 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 2: five season. 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We paint a 1187 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 2: lot of pictures. 1188 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 3: Burne. 1189 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 2: We've never been able to paint training camp pictures with 1190 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 2: the likes of you, my friend. 1191 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 5: I'm super honored to be out here today. And as 1192 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 5: much as I want to relive forty years ago training camp, 1193 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 5: the elbow is a little deteriorating with its skills, so 1194 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 5: we're gonna leave it to our four quarterbacks here to 1195 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:53,479 Speaker 5: man the ship. 1196 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you were talking with Kevin Stefanski and he said, 1197 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 4: he do you want me to run a dagger concept 1198 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:57,320 Speaker 4: for you? 1199 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 3: Like I want to throw a check down and be 1200 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 3: on my way there. Bernie out here at training. 1201 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 5: Camp did remind him of a couple of my more 1202 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 5: famous plays of I have on the longest passes and 1203 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,760 Speaker 5: Cowboy here. That's right, I threw it eighty eight yards. 1204 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 5: It was one yard from me to Emma Smith, he 1205 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 5: ran eighty seven. But we are here in the spirit 1206 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 5: of Cleveland Brown's camp and to talk about that. I 1207 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 5: also learn that play from throwing to the great Eric Medcalf, 1208 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 5: who would take a two yard checkdown and take it 1209 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,240 Speaker 5: to the house. 1210 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 6: So really good memories. 1211 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 3: Yes he would. It is awesome. And so you're with 1212 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 3: us now on Cleveland Browns Daily. 1213 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 4: But we've got a little bit of news to share 1214 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 4: with with our fans as well, and that is that 1215 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 4: you're gonna join me after a lot of our training 1216 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 4: camp practices for training camp insiders. So we're gonna break 1217 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 4: down today the action that we see, will have an 1218 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 4: interview with Joe Flacco as well. So I'm excited to 1219 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 4: be working with you, and I think that's gonna be 1220 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 4: a lot of fun to let people kind of get 1221 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 4: inside the mind of the great Bernie Cozar about all 1222 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 4: the things you're seeing out here. 1223 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 5: Well, I'm excited to be doing training camp daily with 1224 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 5: you breaking it down with let's go baby, you're stuck dating. 1225 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 2: I'm in Bertie. Let's go Bertie. Obviously, the sport has 1226 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 2: changed so much. Training camp has changed so much from 1227 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 2: the time when you played. I mean one of the 1228 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 2: things that I asked Kevin about this at the end 1229 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 2: of mini camp we had him on here today. How 1230 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 2: can you possibly, in this amount of time, with these 1231 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,359 Speaker 2: few reps get a quarterback ready, let alone four? How 1232 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 2: would you handle this? I mean this obviously would never 1233 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 2: happen in your day where you have this limited amount 1234 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 2: of time, But in this day and age, how would 1235 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 2: you get a quarterback ready? 1236 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough, yes, for the quarterback, whether you have 1237 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,399 Speaker 5: four or not, and or any team now getting him 1238 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 5: ready for the start of the season. We say a 1239 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 5: stat we start against the Bengals and we see I 1240 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 5: think the Bengals are one and ten in their first 1241 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 5: two games with Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow. So how 1242 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 5: you start and how you practice in training camp? I 1243 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 5: made the mistake when we were younger. 1244 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1245 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 6: I love the old school, I love the history and 1246 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 6: tradition of what we did, but. 1247 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 5: We probably shortened our careers and the team's careers, and 1248 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 5: we probably hurt our efficiency as the team went on. 1249 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,840 Speaker 5: So I air now on the side of probably a 1250 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 5: little less contact from a team perspective at this time 1251 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 5: of the year, but that does amplify the issue of 1252 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 5: how you get your team and how you get your 1253 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 5: quarterbacks ready, and trying to get four guys ready. 1254 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 6: With three preseason games right. 1255 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 5: Now is a tough task. And I love what we're 1256 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 5: doing in training camp. I love what we do at practice. 1257 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 5: One of the main things those quarterbacks, it's really we 1258 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 5: want to focus and say it's live until there's really 1259 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,240 Speaker 5: the thread of death, the thread of a Miles Garrett 1260 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 5: Watts running you over. Okay, Trey Hendrickson if he does 1261 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 5: come back, let's stay out for the first week of 1262 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 5: the season. But you know, until the thread of that 1263 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 5: guy decapitating you, how you really handle yourself as a 1264 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 5: quarterback is to be determined, and that is going to 1265 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 5: amplify the issue too. 1266 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 4: When you come out here and you watch these quarterbacks, 1267 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 4: what are the things that you're looking for. What are 1268 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 4: the things that tell you that you like what you see, 1269 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 4: that this guy can lead the Cleveland Browns. 1270 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 5: I think, first, if I would have been doing this 1271 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 5: show last year, and I would have had to sit here. 1272 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 6: I would have and I'm not hiding from who the 1273 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 6: quarterback question is, but first I would go to what's 1274 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 6: the system? 1275 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 5: Okay, And I'm not saying it's to be a homer 1276 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 5: and not because I'm here with the Browns or I 1277 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 5: saw Kevin Stefanski before that. I unequivocally believe in this 1278 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 5: system of under center, running the ball in play action. 1279 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 5: If unquestionably, I made a mistake at the end of 1280 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 5: my career and now happened to be in the Dolphins, 1281 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 5: and you guys didn't see it as much, but I 1282 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 5: made a massive mistake thinking guy had to be cool 1283 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 5: and be the shotgun two minute quarterback call and plays. 1284 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 5: The game of football has evolved, we have, but some 1285 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 5: things have stayed the same. And it's imperative to be 1286 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 5: able to run on the ball, have your hand on 1287 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 5: the ground, be under center. So last year's system of spread, 1288 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 5: I don't believe is what is continuent and consistent to 1289 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 5: do for any team in the NFL. So just first 1290 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 5: and foremost, the change to Kevin system will help any 1291 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 5: of us qbs. It would have helped me at the 1292 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 5: end of my career. It will help these four guys 1293 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 5: make a transition into it. So that in itself is 1294 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 5: going to make I believe our offense in the quarterbacks 1295 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 5: better than. 1296 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 6: We were at this time last year. 1297 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 5: And now, which guy could really handle that play accent? 1298 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 5: That played that layering. That's going to happen early. And 1299 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 5: I kind of tend towards and it's not an indictment 1300 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 5: of anybody, but I tend towards the veterans early because 1301 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 5: look at it, it's hard to play good offense. In September. 1302 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 5: We have kind of a new offense. We don't know 1303 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 5: what the defensive coordinators are. 1304 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 6: Doing against it. It's a lot of creative plays. 1305 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 5: By October of October, you have four or five six 1306 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 5: games under your belt, You got your continuity and consistency. 1307 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 5: I believe our offensive line will start becoming more like 1308 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 5: a glove like we were in Unison a couple of 1309 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 5: years ago. I say, implemented this system, and I believe 1310 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 5: that's going to massively help the quarterbacks transition, whoever the 1311 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 5: one is who wins it. 1312 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 4: So you talked about the system, and you talked about, 1313 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 4: you know how that actually helps a quarterback For a 1314 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 4: guy like Kenny Pickt. We've all seen Joe Flacko. We 1315 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 4: know what he can do across his long career and 1316 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 4: certainly in his time here running this offense, and it 1317 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 4: was explosive over three hundred yards in every game. But 1318 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 4: for a guy like Kenny Pickett, because he would be 1319 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 4: in that veteran group, you know, fifteen and ten as 1320 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 4: a starter. When he was in Pittsburgh, he never was 1321 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 4: in a system that people said would necessarily suit his 1322 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 4: skill set. And ironically, when they brought in Arthur Smith, 1323 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 4: that probably would have been a system that suited his 1324 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 4: skill set, and he was out of there at that point, 1325 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 4: goes to Philly. Now he's here with us. Our fans 1326 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 4: have seen Kenny Pickett, and they've seen him through the 1327 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 4: lens of that's the Steelers quarterback and you know, not 1328 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 4: necessarily so prolific throwing the ball, and we don't like him. 1329 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 4: Does that system for a guy like Kenny Pickett? Does 1330 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 4: that matter as much as anything? And perhaps we'll see, 1331 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 4: you know, in a good outcome, right, a different Kenny 1332 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 4: Pickett here than we saw with the Steelers. 1333 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 6: So I absolutely agree with Luria. 1334 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 5: I think you're going and I'm gonna sound like just 1335 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 5: a homer or just being positive for positive sake. 1336 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 6: And I so promise you I'm not. I really believe Kenny. 1337 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 5: I love Joe flackwell, of course, but I absolutely believe 1338 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 5: Kenny Pickett has not run this type system. He would 1339 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 5: have flourished in the Arthur Smith system and will do 1340 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 5: very fine in the system. The worrying about he hasn't 1341 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 5: done this stuff. He's not as fleet a foot as 1342 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 5: some of the others. He's fleet to foot enough. He 1343 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 5: has very good pocket awareness. He'll this system will be 1344 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 5: good for him too. That's what makes coach Kevin Sting 1345 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 5: and Andrew Berry's decision so tough. All four of these guys, 1346 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 5: you're gonna be able to lay a case why they 1347 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 5: could play quarterback within this system and lead the team. 1348 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 2: Bernie, when you come out here and you watch and 1349 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,440 Speaker 2: your eyes go to the quarterbacks, what signs are you 1350 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 2: looking for, especially with the two young guys, that they're 1351 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 2: getting it? What lets you know? 1352 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 13: That? 1353 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 6: So great question? You know, whether I'm palking to younger quarterbacks? 1354 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1355 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 5: Look, we're all as humans trying to pretend we're cool, 1356 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 5: even me on the show right now. 1357 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 6: We're trying to act act again. 1358 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, So the qbs now and acting like you know 1359 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 5: what you're doing, believe in what you're doing. There's words 1360 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 5: that say that, and then there's your action. So we 1361 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 5: all have the right words, but then how do you 1362 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 5: back that up? And when you're able to really look 1363 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 5: them in the eye see what they're doing, then when 1364 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 5: they're able to actually make those plays. So kind of 1365 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 5: looking at that fire in the eye. We used to 1366 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 5: hear the acronym EFNY false enthusiasm. 1367 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we'll say the right things. 1368 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 5: Man, You look into the eye and get into the 1369 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 5: soul and a quarterback, you know, in that huddle with 1370 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 5: ten guys in there and really embracing the spirit and 1371 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,439 Speaker 5: soul and getting in there. So what they look back 1372 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 5: and gaze into your two eyes, even if you've got 1373 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 5: no clue what you're doing, they believe you got it. 1374 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 6: And that's and that is an art body language. 1375 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 4: And how hard is that that command of the huddle, 1376 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 4: that command of the play call. You have to believe 1377 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 4: in what you're saying so that they believe in it. 1378 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 4: For guys, nowadays, can you mention if you came out 1379 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 4: of college, you never called a play in the huddle? 1380 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's that's it's unfathomable for that. And again, 1381 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 6: like I in nineteen eighty five, I said it, I 1382 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 6: said the right things. 1383 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 5: I believe in myself. I know I could do it, yeah, 1384 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 5: but I didn't know it until you do it. Yeah, 1385 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 5: and then when you really do it, you really do believe. 1386 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 5: So like Joe Flacco's done it, you know, can you 1387 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 5: pick It's kind of done it, so they will get 1388 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 5: it kind of quicker. 1389 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 6: The Rooks did it in college and they did it 1390 01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 6: really good. 1391 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 5: And actually like both young quarterbacks because one of the 1392 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 5: things that both of them showed is be their their 1393 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 5: pocket presence and calmness of their hips and feet. 1394 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 6: So it's close. 1395 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 5: If the fans are watching on them on the remote 1396 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 5: today and seeing how close Nathan is to me. You know, 1397 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 5: in a pocket you're able to throw and you're looking 1398 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 5: up field, but look it, I'm gonna get clocked from 1399 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 5: Nathan right away. 1400 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,480 Speaker 6: He's two feet from whatever. 1401 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 5: But in a in a quarterback, you know, in practice 1402 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 5: day we know that he's not getting wiped out, So 1403 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 5: you could stay calm, you could stay confident in there 1404 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 5: in a game you don't know, and then until that 1405 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 5: really happens, and you see how you're gonna respond. And 1406 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 5: I noticed, whether it was watching Shador Sanders scrambled last 1407 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 5: year or Dylan Gabriel in the heat of battle when 1408 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 5: they're making plays happened. Their feet and hips stayed calm 1409 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 5: and they were able to keep their head up the field. 1410 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 5: And for young quarterbacks, death of US quarterbacks is when 1411 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 5: the head drops, so to keep still calm, feet head up. 1412 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 5: They really make plays around the line of scrimmage. And 1413 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 5: that ability to to kind of adapt, I think there's 1414 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 5: gonna be good for them. 1415 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 4: I looks like we're gonna get some one on ones here, 1416 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,840 Speaker 4: Kenny Pick said Tillen working on m. J Emerson and 1417 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 4: m j Emerson all over him wanting a flag there 1418 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 4: may have gotten it, but I thought this pretty good 1419 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 4: coverage had every right there. 1420 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 3: So we've got the receiver corners here. 1421 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 2: There you go, Kenny going first, good cover, Yeah, now 1422 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 2: Joe will go go, Joe will go second. Here can't 1423 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 2: four inch pythons in honor of the Great hole. There's 1424 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 2: flat outs. Woh that was that was right past an 1425 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 2: ear hole right. 1426 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,920 Speaker 4: There, that went right over Denzel's shoulder. But Judy couldn't 1427 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 4: bring him in there. What did you love about one 1428 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 4: on ones? 1429 01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 3: Bernie? 1430 01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 13: So? 1431 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 5: What I really love about one on and I know 1432 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 5: we're fixated and watching the quarterbacks, I would obsess on 1433 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 5: fixed you and watching the receivers. 1434 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 6: And in this press coverage so aggressive at being physical 1435 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 6: and receivers not. 1436 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 5: Dancing at the line of scrimmage, getting physical into the 1437 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 5: defensive back because technically defensive backs aren't really. 1438 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 6: Going to be able to touch and hold you without 1439 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 6: getting a penalty. 1440 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 3: That's a nice route there from Luke Flory. 1441 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 4: That's the first one for the offense there before that 1442 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 4: had been pretty much a lockdown, which you don't see 1443 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 4: a ton of in one on ones, But the Browns 1444 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 4: cornerbacks and secondary that is certainly something that they take 1445 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 4: pride in. Right here, that's the end player of gage 1446 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 4: of can't even get out of the breaks there. 1447 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 2: The two ropes, by the way, should mention down at 1448 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 2: the other end. 1449 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,920 Speaker 3: So they're doing running backs and tight ends. 1450 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan, and down at the other end, the south 1451 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:46,800 Speaker 2: southeast end. 1452 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 4: There there's Joe Flakilair's a veteran Deontay Johnson. He's a 1453 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 4: guy Bernie pro bowler, former thousand yard season He's somebody 1454 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 4: that I think we're gonna need to be able to 1455 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 4: kind of recapture some of that form that he's had 1456 01:05:59,080 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 4: in other places. 1457 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 2: OB he was in Pittsburgh with Kenny Pickett for a while. 1458 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 5: I actually like, I know he's had a underachieving career 1459 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 5: at this point, and some people have, you know, not 1460 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 5: thinking he's come up to his full potential. I actually 1461 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 5: like guys like that because they know this is one 1462 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,920 Speaker 5: of their last chances, so they need to produce Bernie. 1463 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 2: It's so interesting, like watching Kenny throwing down nice completion. 1464 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 2: On the other side, Cedric Tillman against m J. Anderson 1465 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 2: shoulder Joe Flacco throws the most effortless ball, like. 1466 01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I mean that fading through their judy with 1467 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 5: Denzel covering him was I was quiet only. 1468 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 6: Because it was so artistically beautiful. It was gorgeous, Like 1469 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 6: I'm at this, just so artistically beautiful. 1470 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 4: The receiver is getting it going a little bit now. 1471 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 4: It's a nice back shoulder throw from picket there because 1472 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 4: MJ had great coverage, Tilma was able to go up 1473 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 4: there and get it. Caden Davis now working picket on 1474 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 4: a deep end. I means gotta be up. There's the 1475 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 4: straps thing. 1476 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,040 Speaker 6: I know that kids do that. 1477 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 2: They're big on the straps. 1478 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 4: It's pretty tough when we're this far away and you 1479 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 4: can see the jersey in his hand. We're on the 1480 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 4: offensive side, right, Bernie. Oh, nice little double move from Florida. 1481 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 4: But good recovery, great recovery. Ball hung a little bit 1482 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,919 Speaker 4: in the air from Kenny picket probably like a little 1483 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 4: less air under that one, and that's an easy touchdown. 1484 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 5: Oh, Judy, geez, Yeah, good point, Nathan Kenny, you'll figure 1485 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 5: that out. In Cleveland Stadium, you see Joe throwing his 1486 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 5: fades with sauce and flat and when when you get 1487 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 5: too much wind down to the stadium and you're a 1488 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,440 Speaker 5: little too much arc on it, you want to get 1489 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 5: it up and down, especially in windy conditions. 1490 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 3: Get it there, especially when the guys open. Get it there. 1491 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,120 Speaker 4: Mj Emer sitting with the PBu. Great coverage there on 1492 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,560 Speaker 4: Cedric Tillman, Bertie, Let's talk about for a second we've 1493 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 4: had since we haven't talked to you, the big announcement. 1494 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 4: There will be an enclosed Huntington Bank Field in brook Park, 1495 01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 4: and I imagine domes for quarterbacks are our music to 1496 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 4: their ears, no elements, no well. 1497 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 5: For I was with Mayor Mayor Ed and the you know, 1498 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 5: God blessed our northeast Ohio. What's happening in Cleveland, But 1499 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 5: what's happening with brook Park and Mayor ed and the 1500 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,600 Speaker 5: development for the state of Ohio. I just think it 1501 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 5: is unbelievably well, what's what's happening there with it? But 1502 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,759 Speaker 5: as a guy who was a five to five running 1503 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 5: quarterback who is incredibly unathletic, I needed those bad conditions 1504 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:32,919 Speaker 5: to bring. 1505 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 2: To bring the players down to my level. 1506 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 6: But now, as an old man in. 1507 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 5: My sixties, I so want to go to an indoor 1508 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,640 Speaker 5: man cave to enjoy the fruits of our labor, but 1509 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,000 Speaker 5: to be able to showcase our state. Okay, and it 1510 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 5: has things like Super Bowls and National championship games and 1511 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,400 Speaker 5: is just exciting To be. 1512 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 3: Part of it is exciting. 1513 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 4: So they just finished on each side one rep by 1514 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 4: the way, that was a heck of a ball from 1515 01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett right there. 1516 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 3: It just was not caught by yeah, Gage Lardovin. 1517 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 4: But on the other side it was the tight ends 1518 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,680 Speaker 4: and the running backs, and I saw the defense doing 1519 01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 4: push ups down there. So that means that either Dylan 1520 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 4: Gabriel or should do or got one for the positive 1521 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 4: on the offensive side. 1522 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 3: But one on ones are fun. 1523 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 4: That's always my favorite thing about the first day of pads, 1524 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 4: the padd first day of padded one on ones, you know, 1525 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 4: and you. 1526 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 5: So stutey pointed out how effortlessly and gorgeously Joe Flacco 1527 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 5: throws the ball. 1528 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 6: You know, silky. 1529 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 5: If I could reflect back on maybe myself and some 1530 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 5: mistakes I made. 1531 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 6: Is I had to overthrow. 1532 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 5: I wanted to throw spiral so at times, not only overpractice, 1533 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,879 Speaker 5: but you would overthrow in training camp. So Joe Flacco 1534 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 5: have an eighteenth year being in training camp being able 1535 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 5: to mechanically and effortlessly throw and then save his arm 1536 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 5: too for the duration that I'm really smart. 1537 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 3: That is a good thing. Give Bay, how much rope 1538 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 3: do I have here? 1539 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 4: And if I want to try to get us a 1540 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 4: little bit of a vantage point here, because it looks like. 1541 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna go room, we're gonna you have to pop 1542 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 2: that under the table. 1543 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 3: All that. 1544 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 4: We got eleven on elevens for those wondering it is 1545 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,719 Speaker 4: Carson Sweessinger at the mike linebacker position with the retirement 1546 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 4: of Jordan Hicks. That looks like Joe Flacco under center 1547 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,760 Speaker 4: for the Browns here and there's a run to the 1548 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 4: right side. And Mason Graham, he's been a guy that, really, 1549 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,680 Speaker 4: when you're watching him in these situations, has started to 1550 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,479 Speaker 4: make a lot of plays. He was on the ground there. 1551 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,760 Speaker 4: You want to see everybody's staying up. But this is 1552 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,760 Speaker 4: gonna be such a tough front, Bernie. And when the 1553 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 4: way Jim Schwartz does it, you know they're getting up 1554 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 4: the field and they're able to go all out because 1555 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 4: they know they're going in waves. It's like, give me 1556 01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 4: what you got for a few plays and we're gonna 1557 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,960 Speaker 4: get somebody else in there who's gonna go after that quarterback. 1558 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,760 Speaker 5: When I think of Jim Schwartz and the rushing up 1559 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 5: upfield defense, I can't think of the great Doug Deacon 1560 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 5: say getting ready for the. 1561 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 6: Wide nine alignments. 1562 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,920 Speaker 4: You see try and showy inco well out there. Wide 1563 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 4: play action from Flacco comes back to the left, tipped 1564 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,800 Speaker 4: at the line of bage there. That was bad and ball. 1565 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 4: I don't see anybody doing that. The Ken Bam Tumbo 1566 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 4: taking credit for it, but it looked like a bad ball. 1567 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 4: As he was looking for David Djoku in the left flat. 1568 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 3: This is fun. 1569 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 4: It's it's not quite football, but it's as close as 1570 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 4: we're going to get for a little while. 1571 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:11,760 Speaker 3: And that's fun. 1572 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,439 Speaker 5: You know, bias towards the Dave and a jok who 1573 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 5: shout out and part of the implementation matter, the you 1574 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:19,360 Speaker 5: and you matter. 1575 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 6: But even apart from that. 1576 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,720 Speaker 5: The implementation back at Kevin's offense and a miss so 1577 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 5: missed the multiple tight ends last year and I believe 1578 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 5: with the draft pick tight end and with Dave and 1579 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 5: a Joker, you're going to see more of that twelve 1580 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,760 Speaker 5: personnel and that's going to help our running game in 1581 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:37,680 Speaker 5: our play action game. 1582 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,639 Speaker 4: And there they were having a shotgun inside of Dylan Samson, 1583 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,000 Speaker 4: who looked like he had a nice little hole there. 1584 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 4: And he's got the first SEC Offensive Player of the year. 1585 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,559 Speaker 2: Durability will be he's in smaller dude, and so that's 1586 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,320 Speaker 2: that's part of it. But yeah, I mean he was 1587 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:50,760 Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't play much in the High State 1588 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 2: game and they obviously felt the brun of that. Bernie 1589 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 2: was going to ask you about because one of the 1590 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,040 Speaker 2: weaknesses on this team, I think, you know, Nathan and 1591 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 2: I talked about we ranked the position groups like Jerry 1592 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 2: Judy at the time very very strong. But then that 1593 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,760 Speaker 2: room needs a lot of guys to really step up. 1594 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,400 Speaker 2: But could the solution to that also come from the 1595 01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 2: tight end room and more of a focus on David 1596 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,880 Speaker 2: More and now Harold Fannon, who could play in the 1597 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 2: slot a lot. Is does it matter where it comes from? 1598 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,000 Speaker 2: I guess so. 1599 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 5: The short answer, and not in the spirit of being 1600 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 5: a Homer, is absolutely you could create stuff like this. 1601 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,400 Speaker 5: And then the great words of my awesome mentor, Gary Danielson, 1602 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 5: who's still announcing. 1603 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,400 Speaker 6: Still college games and stuff. 1604 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 5: Gary Danielson said that you can't stay regularly Dow does 1605 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 5: not have to go to four and five receivers on 1606 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,639 Speaker 5: third down and second and long, so we have success 1607 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 5: with multiple tight ends. 1608 01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:48,759 Speaker 6: I actually think doing multiple tight ends on second and long. 1609 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 5: Third and mediums, third and shorts for sure should be 1610 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:52,720 Speaker 5: part of our game plan. 1611 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,600 Speaker 4: We try to get them in that base defense and 1612 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,360 Speaker 4: then take advantage of that third linebacker. So going to 1613 01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 4: the second team, now that was a blown up screen 1614 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:00,800 Speaker 4: there that d was all over. This is the first 1615 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 4: time we've seen this. Kenny Pickett working with the second 1616 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,559 Speaker 4: team in these eleven on eleven periods, a little run 1617 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,599 Speaker 4: to the right side and a nice bounce out there 1618 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 4: from the undrafted free agent Marshall. Right now, you've got 1619 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,720 Speaker 4: Pierre Strong, you've got Samson, you've got Marshall in the backfield, 1620 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,400 Speaker 4: Jerome Fod not ready to go. Obviously, we know what's 1621 01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,760 Speaker 4: going on with Quinn Shawn Judkins. So these are the 1622 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,680 Speaker 4: running backs here. I'm kind of surprised we haven't got 1623 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 4: another one. I saw Legs in camp. 1624 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 2: Ride receiver signing this morning and wondering if if maybe 1625 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,360 Speaker 2: there needed to be a running back one as well. 1626 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 4: Potentially, Yeah, and if we can't get our snaps going, 1627 01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,120 Speaker 4: we're gonna need even more. We're gonna need more stuff 1628 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,760 Speaker 4: going on into that room as well. Canny Pickett now 1629 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 4: with the second team, was Flacco with the first team 1630 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:48,519 Speaker 4: in the eleven on eleven Which is good to see 1631 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,880 Speaker 4: Picket dropping back under pressure scrambles, they come out to 1632 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,080 Speaker 4: the right and he is a much better athlete and 1633 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,360 Speaker 4: runner obviously in his time. 1634 01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:03,000 Speaker 5: Better And and if people were watching what Kenny Pickett 1635 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,559 Speaker 5: that they're even in practice moving up in the pocket. 1636 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 5: Young quarterbacks, you tend to drop your head like I'm 1637 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 5: looking in the camera right now, really imperative, keep your 1638 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,160 Speaker 5: eyes look him downfieled and Kenny kept his eyes downfilled. 1639 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,040 Speaker 5: He has the opportunity to as you approached the line 1640 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 5: to still make a throw like that. 1641 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 6: In that case, he ended up running it. 1642 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,680 Speaker 2: At this point, Bernie's making earlier though too. And we 1643 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 2: just saw it and you know, come to life right 1644 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,559 Speaker 2: here on the practice field where he's plenty fast enough. 1645 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,559 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like he's he's got enough scoot. I mean, 1646 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 2: he's plenty elusive. It ain't ran for a lot of 1647 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:35,720 Speaker 2: yards at pit too. 1648 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, And we saw it last year Joe Burrow, who 1649 01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:39,840 Speaker 4: they said wasn't much of a runner, go for what 1650 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,320 Speaker 4: fifty four? I think it was against the Giant's longest 1651 01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,560 Speaker 4: run of his career. And I'll goold laugh about that. 1652 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,559 Speaker 4: On quarterback they were talking about that wasn't the longest 1653 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 4: run his career. They ended up showing highlights of him 1654 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 4: in like Pop Warner football run like eighty yards. All right, 1655 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,800 Speaker 4: So back to the one. So this is again, this 1656 01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,720 Speaker 4: is a new kind of we have not seen this. 1657 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,280 Speaker 4: As they ramp up here on Day three, Flacco under center, 1658 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 4: pitch right, try to get a cutback, and there's nowhere 1659 01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,160 Speaker 4: to go against this defensive front. I think this front 1660 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,640 Speaker 4: especially we get my callback here, Bernie. The addition to 1661 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,160 Speaker 4: Mason Graham, Eliite Collins, who is a professional pass rusher 1662 01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,439 Speaker 4: in the middle, you bring in try and Shoyinka, he's 1663 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 4: a former first rounder. They've got a lot of guys 1664 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 4: up front, and right now, try and show inca run 1665 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,120 Speaker 4: with the ones there you go opposite of Miles Garrett. 1666 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:22,800 Speaker 4: So you'd have right now with the guys that are 1667 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 4: out there, you got three first round picks on that line. 1668 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 5: And if you've got to have talent and excessive talent 1669 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,080 Speaker 5: on the D line, that's essential to have it there. 1670 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,760 Speaker 5: With the way teams, yes, you need pass pressure, but 1671 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,840 Speaker 5: the way teams are now starting to run the ball 1672 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,160 Speaker 5: within our division, and particularly with Baltimore and Pittsburgh, to 1673 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,040 Speaker 5: be able to match up with a line like that 1674 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,799 Speaker 5: to neutralize the other team's offensive lines imperatively important. 1675 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 3: Oh, Bernie, that would have been one that you liked, right, sir. 1676 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,400 Speaker 4: So the Browns came out in thirteen personnel ran the 1677 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,799 Speaker 4: hard play action looking for a shot, and the Browns 1678 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 4: defensive line said, we have other ideas and the ball 1679 01:15:58,320 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 4: was not thrown and that's kind of been one of 1680 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:01,920 Speaker 4: the stories of the early going. And you expect that, 1681 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,759 Speaker 4: right Bernie, the defense to be ahead of the offense 1682 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 4: early in camp. 1683 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're not really allowed to bang and hit 1684 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 5: plays right now. So thirteen personnel is typically a run personnel, 1685 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,200 Speaker 5: and teams that are going to play the pass and 1686 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,080 Speaker 5: pass rush against that, coach Stefanski will be giving them 1687 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,280 Speaker 5: a big dose of power football, if that's if that 1688 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 5: would be the case. 1689 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 2: Bernie, How cognizant were you, guys? And so different? I mean, 1690 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure you were already in pads at this point. 1691 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,920 Speaker 2: You're probably doing two a days, maybe three days, who 1692 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 2: knows compared to you know, how little work we get 1693 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,680 Speaker 2: to put in now. But how cognizant were you? 1694 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:32,920 Speaker 6: Guys? 1695 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,920 Speaker 2: Of you hear that old line about taking care of 1696 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,519 Speaker 2: each other your teammates, Like, was that something that was 1697 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:39,720 Speaker 2: even discussed in your era? 1698 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,280 Speaker 5: You kind of tried to discuss it if you were 1699 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 5: a wily veteran who could be a dictator. 1700 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,720 Speaker 6: Basically, it was preservation and. 1701 01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,600 Speaker 5: So much of Like there were so many guys on 1702 01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 5: the team that were vying for spots and there wasn't 1703 01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:59,040 Speaker 5: guaranteed contracts, So it was kind of kill or be killed, 1704 01:16:59,520 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 5: you know, to. 1705 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:04,160 Speaker 2: The team gladiators. Man, it's crazy like this brutal to 1706 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:05,960 Speaker 2: what we know now compared to the you know, the 1707 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,240 Speaker 2: way that it was done for so long. 1708 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,680 Speaker 4: By the way, speaking of right now, we have not 1709 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,080 Speaker 4: gotten a pass off yet. Joe Flacco right there fleshed 1710 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 4: out Joe Tranchoy ink Adam Zack ended up tossing to 1711 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,880 Speaker 4: the ball boys in one of those beautiful looking bucket 1712 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,720 Speaker 4: hats for the season here, very nice looking bucket hats 1713 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,000 Speaker 4: this year. But this Brown's defensive front is going hopefully 1714 01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:24,320 Speaker 4: this continues, is going to be a problem. 1715 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 3: But this isn't It's a good offensive line right now. 1716 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,080 Speaker 4: And that pressure coming off of the right side of 1717 01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,400 Speaker 4: that offensive line is Kenny Pickett, is it? Is it 1718 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,720 Speaker 4: Picket peck in there with the twos. Yeah, So this 1719 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 4: is the first time we've seen that a sequence of 1720 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,240 Speaker 4: ones and twos only and only the veteran quarterbacks here 1721 01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,360 Speaker 4: and see if maybe Pickett can get something going, try 1722 01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,720 Speaker 4: to runt the outside. Jerome Baker had that one well 1723 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,519 Speaker 4: sniffed out. The veteran who's gonna have to play a 1724 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,400 Speaker 4: big role now in might have the retirement of Jordan Hicks, 1725 01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 4: and the fact that obviously Jeremiahusu Kormo will be unavailable 1726 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:51,320 Speaker 4: this year. 1727 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 5: You know, I'm digressing back to your question about did 1728 01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,600 Speaker 5: we take care of ourselves in the old day? In 1729 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,360 Speaker 5: one respect to reminds me of his stories, I'm looking 1730 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:01,120 Speaker 5: at the gold post. 1731 01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 3: You know. 1732 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 5: Typically at first when I came in, I wasn't the 1733 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,840 Speaker 5: starting quarterback, Gary Danielson. So I'm the backup quarterback. So 1734 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,759 Speaker 5: the backup quarterback typically in that day was the holder 1735 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 5: and stuff. If I massively improve it holding, I will 1736 01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 5: then suck. 1737 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 6: I'm so bad at it. So I did not want 1738 01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 6: to do that. 1739 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:25,760 Speaker 5: Okay, So Matt Barr is our kicker, and like he's good, 1740 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,680 Speaker 5: so like I don't want to hold for him and 1741 01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 5: get hurt. So we have the backup kicker. Come and 1742 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 5: I pull a Charlie Brown, Lucy, I pull it out 1743 01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:38,000 Speaker 5: home sell, he pulls his hammy, he goes, he goes on. 1744 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,080 Speaker 5: I r for two weeks. He was gonna get whacked 1745 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 5: because Barr was going to be the kicker. So he 1746 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,679 Speaker 5: loved me because he got two months. 1747 01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,719 Speaker 6: Of salary and an accredited season. 1748 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:48,679 Speaker 2: That's nice. 1749 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,880 Speaker 4: That's nice too's out there, good pressure from mguire and 1750 01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 4: right mean, that's he talked about just waves on this 1751 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,240 Speaker 4: defensive it's got to be the success. 1752 01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, for us to have success, that front and that 1753 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,479 Speaker 2: backend has got to be among the very best in 1754 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 2: the sport. It really does. 1755 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 4: Picky did a good job right there, flushing out to 1756 01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,320 Speaker 4: the right, finding Luke Floory on a little comebacker and 1757 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 4: that was probably the first positive pass play we've had. 1758 01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,080 Speaker 2: And his coach was on with us. They're not in 1759 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 2: pads what do you call them, spider shell, spider or 1760 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,600 Speaker 2: something like that, kind of like a more of a 1761 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 2: lightweight shoulder pad situation. So that's where and you get 1762 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:24,920 Speaker 2: a little bit of physicality with this. I mean you're 1763 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,680 Speaker 2: grabbing and you're pushing and shoving and stuff, so you 1764 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 2: get a little bit of that before you ramp up 1765 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:29,800 Speaker 2: to full contact next week. 1766 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,960 Speaker 4: It's definitely more physical than we've seen at this portion 1767 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,800 Speaker 4: of training camp in the last few years. I know, 1768 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:36,320 Speaker 4: they're taking care of each other, they're not going to 1769 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,760 Speaker 4: the ground, but people are going hard and people end 1770 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,080 Speaker 4: up on the ground in those situations. Right there, Pierre 1771 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:42,680 Speaker 4: Strong ended up on the ground at the end of 1772 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,840 Speaker 4: that that toss play, and that reminds me kind of 1773 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:45,920 Speaker 4: I haven't seen us run. 1774 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,040 Speaker 3: The tosses quite like that. 1775 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,760 Speaker 4: Bernie reminds me of when Kyle Shanahan was here in 1776 01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,760 Speaker 4: twenty fourteen. And those is the toss in zone still, 1777 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 4: it's still the zone concept. But he just wants to 1778 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,559 Speaker 4: get the ball yeah, to the back as quick as possible. 1779 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,040 Speaker 4: Let him start to read the flow. 1780 01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's not the old qu like stupid body right, 1781 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:06,120 Speaker 5: it's actually like a quick screen. We actually called boss 1782 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 5: back on strong safety support and it's kind of a 1783 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,599 Speaker 5: zone read with the full back. H back come back 1784 01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,519 Speaker 5: and take out the secondary support which should be the 1785 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 5: strong safety. 1786 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,560 Speaker 4: So that was a keeper there. Can he Pickett with 1787 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,880 Speaker 4: the play actions? The Browns called those play action boots. 1788 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,559 Speaker 4: It was a playfake on a run to the right, 1789 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 4: keeps it back to the left. He's running left, flips 1790 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,200 Speaker 4: his hips. Had a one on one down the field 1791 01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,960 Speaker 4: for Caden Davis, but good coverage again and that one 1792 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:31,040 Speaker 4: was almost picked off. 1793 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,200 Speaker 2: Looks like Dylan Gabriel going to get this rep here 1794 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 2: with the ones. So Dylan Gabriel now with the ones, Yeah, 1795 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,120 Speaker 2: and it's the one offense. So Dylan was going to 1796 01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 2: go with the ones against the one defense here, this 1797 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 2: is a massive opportunity for him. 1798 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,280 Speaker 3: So it's some of the one defense. 1799 01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 4: It's it's great Usome and it's MJ but it's some 1800 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,920 Speaker 4: of the backup linebackers, some of the starters on the line, 1801 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:58,719 Speaker 4: but Denzel, Denzel starts. It's the one corners. Yeah, Gabriel 1802 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 4: looking looking looking and that would have been assibly another sack. 1803 01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:05,479 Speaker 4: Again this right now, defense it is not fair. It 1804 01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,599 Speaker 4: is defensive domination. And now that one is more concerning 1805 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:13,280 Speaker 4: to me because that's Cam Thomas, it's it's Mason Graham, 1806 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,400 Speaker 4: so it isn't but I didn't end Miles, so that 1807 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,240 Speaker 4: is that's there. Cam Thomas is in opposite Miles. But 1808 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,360 Speaker 4: it's three of the four starters there, starters at cornerback 1809 01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,840 Speaker 4: as well, and it looks like your backup safeties and 1810 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,000 Speaker 4: backup lif hey. 1811 01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 5: So this is half levity, okay, and half seriousness to 1812 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 5: Nathan said earlier about our offensive bias here. 1813 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,600 Speaker 6: And I love coach Schwartz, but I'm old enough to 1814 01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,440 Speaker 6: be on some staffs. 1815 01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,000 Speaker 5: Where he was on back in the day here in 1816 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:44,519 Speaker 5: the nineties, and when the defensive alignment in these early 1817 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 5: stages of training camp, and we didn't have pads on. 1818 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,759 Speaker 6: Used to drive us offensive guys nuts. 1819 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 5: They rush, they rush, they stand up like trees and 1820 01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,479 Speaker 5: we can't chop them down like we're gonna do in 1821 01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 5: a game. 1822 01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,800 Speaker 4: Another one for Dylan here under center, that's a run 1823 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,240 Speaker 4: play and out the other side was Pierre Strong. 1824 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:07,320 Speaker 3: He's got some acceleration. 1825 01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,439 Speaker 4: And you know, right now, you'd say for Pierre Strong 1826 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,600 Speaker 4: once after the draft, you would say, Okay, probably a 1827 01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,200 Speaker 4: long shot. But where we are right now, he has 1828 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,680 Speaker 4: an opportunity, you know, to really try to seize a 1829 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 4: role on this football team because of the uncertainty in 1830 01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,360 Speaker 4: that position, and that's a position that we can't really 1831 01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,880 Speaker 4: afford uncertainty. That's going to be such a huge part 1832 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,800 Speaker 4: of our identity. Burnie, you talk about getting under center, 1833 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,120 Speaker 4: being able to run the ball. If you're going to 1834 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:31,960 Speaker 4: be a team that's gonna win by playing good defense, 1835 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,479 Speaker 4: being mistake f you on offense, running and then using 1836 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,760 Speaker 4: that play action to hit shots where they are available, 1837 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,040 Speaker 4: you gotta be able to run it first. 1838 01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:43,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, high school colleges and even pro teams, and you've 1839 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,600 Speaker 5: seen this at the beginning of the first two practices. 1840 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,000 Speaker 5: When you see people report on what's been happening on offensive, 1841 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,120 Speaker 5: then you hear all the legal procedure couple drop snaps. 1842 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,920 Speaker 5: For the fans out there, don't lose your mind. That 1843 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 5: happens the beginning of training camp. And because we were 1844 01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,479 Speaker 5: mostly and most teams have been shotgunned most of their 1845 01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,960 Speaker 5: life to go to under center, you're gonna have some 1846 01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,800 Speaker 5: of those issues here in camp, so to get them 1847 01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,120 Speaker 5: out of our system now and to stay with them 1848 01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 5: because during the season you're gonna need the under center 1849 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:14,120 Speaker 5: snap exchanges. 1850 01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:15,880 Speaker 4: But I just play there a little kind of a 1851 01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:17,800 Speaker 4: fake run and they turned around and toss it on 1852 01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,479 Speaker 4: a reverse the cad and Dave's now in there, and 1853 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:21,559 Speaker 4: this is the threes. 1854 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,360 Speaker 3: This is Chadour with the threes and hopefully that line can. 1855 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,720 Speaker 2: Do as Baker's in on this At linebacker. 1856 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 3: Good specially needs all the reps he can get. 1857 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,160 Speaker 4: Shotgun to Shador looking quick on a quick out complete 1858 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,599 Speaker 4: to the sideline there to Luke Floria, who has been 1859 01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,840 Speaker 4: pretty much the one guy that's been able to get 1860 01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:44,360 Speaker 4: the football spent in this session. But Chadoor decisive. How 1861 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,360 Speaker 4: important is that Bernie coming into the National Football League 1862 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,560 Speaker 4: from the college game where the windows closed quicker, The 1863 01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,640 Speaker 4: time to throw is significantly quicker to be decisive like 1864 01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 4: Shador was on that play. Yeah. 1865 01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,679 Speaker 5: And and a lot of a lot of high school 1866 01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,720 Speaker 5: college kids don't have the anticipation they throw in high 1867 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,080 Speaker 5: school and college to open receivers because they tend to 1868 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 5: be wide open and stuff. When I was impressed with 1869 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:15,520 Speaker 5: Shador in film study even before the draft was his anticipation. 1870 01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,680 Speaker 5: I didn't have that early anticipation until my second or 1871 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:20,920 Speaker 5: third year in the NFL. 1872 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,160 Speaker 6: To be able to let it go early like he 1873 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,240 Speaker 6: did in college and then nowhere to go with it 1874 01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:28,040 Speaker 6: is impressive. 1875 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,160 Speaker 3: A lot of people talk about that line at Colorado. 1876 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it probably can lead to some bad habits, yes, 1877 01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,759 Speaker 4: but it can also lead probably to some good habits 1878 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,880 Speaker 4: where you know that if I get the look that 1879 01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,560 Speaker 4: I want, and I know what they're doing, and I 1880 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:41,960 Speaker 4: know where I'm supposed to go with the ball, and 1881 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:43,799 Speaker 4: I have to read this one player and that determines 1882 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,080 Speaker 4: where the ball goes, which is a lot of what 1883 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 4: these offenses are, that'll probably get you in some good 1884 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 4: habits knowing I got to get this ball out. 1885 01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, And It makes you accelerate your game. It makes 1886 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:56,320 Speaker 5: you be a lot more resourceful. And then again it 1887 01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,599 Speaker 5: calls you out right away if you can't stay calm 1888 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,680 Speaker 5: feet or move, if you got happy feet, if you're 1889 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,439 Speaker 5: patent the baby, all those little signs that come up, 1890 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,080 Speaker 5: he's not doing any of those. 1891 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,920 Speaker 4: That's what I'm doing the baby. A lot of burbro 1892 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,920 Speaker 4: the baby right there. That was a play action keeper 1893 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,560 Speaker 4: right there. Shador with a good job getting out to 1894 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,160 Speaker 4: the tight end. Brendan Bates and that was that was 1895 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,960 Speaker 4: a smoother operation there all around. 1896 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really was. We will continue to paint the 1897 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,080 Speaker 2: pictures of training Camp day number three. On the other 1898 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:26,759 Speaker 2: side of this quick time out, you listen to Cleveland 1899 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,400 Speaker 2: Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN. 1900 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Bete, an official 1901 01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,639 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty 1902 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:41,680 Speaker 1: esp and Cleveland. 1903 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,040 Speaker 2: Hell can help serious lawyer Serious injuries called one eight 1904 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,040 Speaker 2: hundred elch Ohio for a free case for you. Elkin 1905 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:53,560 Speaker 2: Elk is a proud partner of your Cleveland Browns. That 1906 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,680 Speaker 2: was fun Man eleven on eleven's How and this was 1907 01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 2: you mentioned this well, it was happening first time that 1908 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 2: we had seen with the ones v ones in that 1909 01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:06,280 Speaker 2: Picket went second, Then Gabriel got some ones versus mostly ones, 1910 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,280 Speaker 2: and then Chaudeur at the end got some threes, and 1911 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,160 Speaker 2: then there were a couple of ones in at linebacker 1912 01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,519 Speaker 2: as well. So really a long look at all of 1913 01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,599 Speaker 2: the quarterbacks and the offense, and I would be kidding 1914 01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:18,960 Speaker 2: and it would be not truthful for me to say 1915 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 2: it when anything other than not great offensively. 1916 01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:21,640 Speaker 3: No, it did not. 1917 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,200 Speaker 4: It was dominated by the defensive lines up there now there, 1918 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:25,280 Speaker 4: and I love it on living period. 1919 01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,040 Speaker 3: That's just kind of walked through pace. They're just getting 1920 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,519 Speaker 3: looks and walking through. 1921 01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,200 Speaker 4: The quarterbacks aren't throwing the ball or doing some of 1922 01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 4: the pointing and whatnot as they continue to ramp up 1923 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,560 Speaker 4: here before the pads come on next week. No, that 1924 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:41,280 Speaker 4: was that was definitely dominated by the defensive front in particular. 1925 01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,639 Speaker 4: In fact, I don't know Flac or Picket were really 1926 01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,479 Speaker 4: able to get a lot of passes off there. 1927 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:47,320 Speaker 3: Gabriel was not. 1928 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,040 Speaker 4: And then Chadour at the end got a couple of 1929 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 4: quick hitters that he executed well against the threes. But 1930 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 4: you know, kind of going back to it unless things 1931 01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,640 Speaker 4: change right now, you know, I think you're looking at 1932 01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,640 Speaker 4: as we always said, Picket or Flacco are going to 1933 01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,720 Speaker 4: start at the beginning, and it feels like Gabriel is 1934 01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,960 Speaker 4: going to get currently more opportunities and Shador really has 1935 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:12,040 Speaker 4: not gotten opportunities to showcase himself outside of you know, 1936 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:16,200 Speaker 4: being with the threes, and so sure, if that doesn't change, 1937 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,080 Speaker 4: then you can go ahead and say he is not 1938 01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 4: going to be You could definitively say he's not going 1939 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,320 Speaker 4: to get an opportunity to be the starter early in 1940 01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,320 Speaker 4: this football season. But we'll see how this thing evolves 1941 01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 4: as it goes on. That's what I think is going 1942 01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,040 Speaker 4: to be more interesting where it starts and then what 1943 01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,000 Speaker 4: it evolves to at that position. 1944 01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:31,360 Speaker 6: Well. 1945 01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,360 Speaker 2: Also, my goodness, you think about I mean, we only 1946 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:35,920 Speaker 2: get to see him for this little time that they're 1947 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,280 Speaker 2: on the field, but it's an all day evaluation, of course, 1948 01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,080 Speaker 2: and the meeting rooms are so poor of that stuff. 1949 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:41,800 Speaker 2: And when Kevin was with us and he was telling 1950 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:46,639 Speaker 2: us about everyone in that room, these four guys, him, Bill, Tommy, Deshaun, 1951 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,800 Speaker 2: I mean there's it's a massive room of quarterbacks, yeah, 1952 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 2: with a lot of experience and offensive minds with a 1953 01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:52,839 Speaker 2: lot of experience. 1954 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've all played, They've all played the position. There 1955 01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:56,760 Speaker 4: isn't a single person there that didn't play at a 1956 01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 4: very high level. Tommy obviously in college, and Bill Musgrave 1957 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,720 Speaker 4: makeing into the football league along with the rest of them. 1958 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,599 Speaker 4: So there is a lot of knowledge. Bertie, what goes 1959 01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,519 Speaker 4: on in those quarterback rooms. You're gonna have this practice, right, 1960 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,920 Speaker 4: You're gonna go in there, you're gonna watch the film together. 1961 01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:10,720 Speaker 2: What is that? 1962 01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,240 Speaker 6: What is that like? 1963 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I was as you were saying that. 1964 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,600 Speaker 5: I was kind of reflected back on an interview. I 1965 01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,400 Speaker 5: saw Joe Flacco a week or two ago, maybe it 1966 01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,439 Speaker 5: was a month ago, but he was talking about asking 1967 01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,599 Speaker 5: are you a mentor to the young quarterbacks are there? 1968 01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,720 Speaker 6: And he didn't say I'm a mentor. Matter of fact, 1969 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,519 Speaker 6: he said, no, I'm not a mentor, but. 1970 01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,240 Speaker 5: For the young quarterbacks and for people out there listening, 1971 01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 5: and for you if you're in that room. 1972 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,680 Speaker 6: And you're a young quarterback just watching what he does. 1973 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,439 Speaker 5: He is mentoring by how he conducts himself, how he 1974 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 5: threw that fade against Denzel to Judy, how he's going 1975 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:52,519 Speaker 5: to talk to coach Musgraves and coach Reeves afterwards when 1976 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,800 Speaker 5: they all watch that play together, the younger quarterbacks to 1977 01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,639 Speaker 5: watch how he's handled himself and even can he Pickett 1978 01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:02,080 Speaker 5: as a veteran to be able to be around Joe Flacco. 1979 01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:07,360 Speaker 5: This is enormously positive for the young guys and even 1980 01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,120 Speaker 5: coaches to be able to listen to see what's kept 1981 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:11,200 Speaker 5: you in the league. 1982 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:12,000 Speaker 3: When you played. 1983 01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:13,800 Speaker 4: Was there the access to you know, you'd add of 1984 01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,439 Speaker 4: a practice and then you'd be able to immediately go 1985 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,040 Speaker 4: in and watch your reps on film? 1986 01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:18,559 Speaker 3: Was it that quick? 1987 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:20,679 Speaker 6: No matter of fact. 1988 01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:25,160 Speaker 5: The jealousy, the jealousy today of the way I mean, 1989 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,960 Speaker 5: I used to run down a faxed copy of. 1990 01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 2: The pre snap alignment of. 1991 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,519 Speaker 5: The defense and I thought that was the greatest thing 1992 01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:34,880 Speaker 5: since Christmas morning. 1993 01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:36,760 Speaker 6: Okay, so let. 1994 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,160 Speaker 5: Alone to have a laptop of your plays, or to 1995 01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,960 Speaker 5: immediately go in after the film after practice and not 1996 01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,120 Speaker 5: need I'm gonna really show my age, not need the 1997 01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,320 Speaker 5: splice her for the eight millimeter to cut it off 1998 01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:50,439 Speaker 5: would be really helpful. 1999 01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 2: Bernie, you mentioned you get nostalgia. There's a couple of 2000 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,360 Speaker 2: guys out there in the bright orange cleats and I 2001 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 2: just can't help but think of Webster slaughter spray painting 2002 01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,000 Speaker 2: up those cleats that bright orange. I see some of 2003 01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:03,360 Speaker 2: those out there, Buddy, man. 2004 01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:08,000 Speaker 5: I can't I digrassed with those beautiful orange cleats. Who 2005 01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,320 Speaker 5: I used to love throwing a fade to Webster Langy 2006 01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:12,680 Speaker 5: going for touchdowns on it. 2007 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,400 Speaker 6: But I remember the first time an old municipal stadium 2008 01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:16,320 Speaker 6: with that little. 2009 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,920 Speaker 5: Box locker room in there, and these guys are like 2010 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,479 Speaker 5: in there with all the spray paint cans and buzzing 2011 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:26,320 Speaker 5: away like were buzzed on paint spray and in this thing. 2012 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,800 Speaker 2: Come on, cut me some slack. 2013 01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:30,799 Speaker 3: Outdoors. 2014 01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,080 Speaker 2: They weren't Nike wasn't making them. To make up yourself. 2015 01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:38,040 Speaker 5: This is right in the showers, okay, doubled is our 2016 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:38,800 Speaker 5: locker room. 2017 01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:45,960 Speaker 2: That's great in between m Ris right right, Uh, this 2018 01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:47,200 Speaker 2: is good. That's great. 2019 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,160 Speaker 3: Little special teams to wrap things up here. 2020 01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:50,240 Speaker 2: That's it, gentlemen. 2021 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 6: Oh there you go. 2022 01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,240 Speaker 2: Not even what a time to be alive. This was great, Bernie. 2023 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,640 Speaker 2: This was so much fun, mane any brother, and it 2024 01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,680 Speaker 2: was great to to paint the pictures. These are some 2025 01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,360 Speaker 2: of our favorite shows all year. Are these camp shows. 2026 01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,200 Speaker 2: We're able to watch and see everything that's going on. 2027 01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,479 Speaker 3: So in order to get trained Camp Insider right after 2028 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,400 Speaker 3: this Bernie and I, so you go be on the lookout. 2029 01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:10,840 Speaker 2: You have that to look forward to, which is nice. 2030 01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:14,439 Speaker 2: You also the next level, which starts momentarily. Thanks for listening, Body, 2031 01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,360 Speaker 2: Clevelandruds Daily, eight fifty esp of Cleveland. 2032 01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,519 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 2033 01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,759 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland