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Speaker 1: So the championship obviously is like the biggest heartbreaker game

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Speaker 1: why don't you give us the big win call? Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you next week after a big big

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Speaker 1: Oh you brought you that's what I like. A big

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Speaker 1: win over the Titans Nashville. I ain't going to the well,

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Speaker 1: all right, this isn't extended this a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: you hired Cliff Cliffs. Cliffs the road, dog Cliff is

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Speaker 1: time to close this out with the big Wayne. Really

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Speaker 1: another I already did it, another one. All right, it's

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Speaker 1: time for a big well this weekend Tennessee