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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, Rain, draw from today's episode of

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King. We are recapping part two of

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Speaker 1: The Valley Reunion and I am back with my amazing assistant, Livedy.

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Speaker 2: Gang. Thank you for having me back. I'm excited. The

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Speaker 2: first one was fun and I'm excited to dive into

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Speaker 2: episode two of the reunion of The Valley.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Yeah, yeah, Lizzy, this was a very entertaining reunion.

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Speaker 1: The Valley really is one of those shows, Lizzie, where

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Speaker 1: I can't keep my eyes off of it. It's like

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Speaker 1: a train wreck. It's sort of like the train wreck

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Speaker 1: of seeing Pamela Anderson.

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Speaker 3: Day are you where? What's happening to say? Liam Ne said,

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Speaker 3: being a couple.

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Speaker 2: I am invested in it. I'm invested in too. Am

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Speaker 2: ashamed to say that I have not watched her documentary

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Speaker 2: that came out, and so I did us to the

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Speaker 2: people the other day. I was like, does she not

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Speaker 2: wear makeup? Sure enough? No, But I think she's beautiful,

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Speaker 2: I mean gorgeous beautiful. I think it's so interesting to

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Speaker 2: see pictures of her back in the day, who she dated,

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Speaker 2: who she was, and then seeing her like in Puppy

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Speaker 2: Loves Watch What Happens Live, it was so refreshing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, first of all, she's gorgeous about makeup, and I

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Speaker 1: watched the I'm obsessed with her, and so it's honest.

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Speaker 1: Apparently I watched her documentary on Netflix a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago, and that's when I instantly was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: she is something. So look when I say trained wreck

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Speaker 1: range John's I domin like it's a bad thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's something shocking, it's unexpected, and I just

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Speaker 1: can't keep my eyes off of it. But they look

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Speaker 1: to be madly in love. So there were love to

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Speaker 1: each other than Jackson Brittany. I can tell you that.

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Speaker 2: Good transition there. But you know what is so great

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Speaker 2: to me about this show is how much these cast

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Speaker 2: members actually want to be there. I mean from the

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Speaker 2: conversations like on off camera to even bringing up like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you didn't really like your edit last year, the storylines.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they really want to be a part of

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Speaker 2: this show, which you know does have us glued to it,

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Speaker 2: and you can't look away because they are living their

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Speaker 2: their real lives for black and better words, but like,

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Speaker 2: they really want to be on the show. They really

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Speaker 2: want to fight with each other, they really want to

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Speaker 2: find some juice and dig it up, you know, and

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Speaker 2: I think that that's something that makes a good reality

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Speaker 1: No. One thousand percent, one thousand percent Listen, they're all

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Speaker 1: invested in the show. And we just got to begin

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Speaker 1: with Jacks because I'm going somewhere with that statement you made, Lizzie.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to them loving the show, it's sad, although.

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Speaker 3: To me it's the right thing to do for him

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Speaker 1: But it's said that when it comes to Jacks, you

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Speaker 1: could tell this was his second win at reality television,

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Speaker 1: you know, getting fired from Vanda Pump Rules and now

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Speaker 1: stepping away. In ear quotes from the Valley, you could

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Speaker 1: tell that somebody was in Jackson's ear prior to this

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Speaker 1: talk about the fact that Jack's has been diagnosed bipolar.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been taking his medication. Brittany said. He has

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Speaker 3: Leaving the relationship.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to Jack's situation, did you also feel

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, I mean you could see that from a

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Speaker 2: to fight. You've already lost her, you know, fighting in

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Speaker 2: tell you, CHROs, we would have never gotten an episode

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Speaker 2: like this if it weren't for a reunion, because no

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Speaker 2: it's too late.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it is certainly too late.

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Speaker 1: Look, it was painfully obvious that he was trying to

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Speaker 1: save up his job. And what is so sad about

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Speaker 1: comes to Jack's, my belief is the fact that he

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Speaker 1: can't handle fame. He can't handle it, you know, I

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Speaker 1: definitely think in my opinion, right, I think fame brings

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Speaker 3: Demons that he's trying to work through.

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Speaker 1: And again, I'm not sure what happened to him after

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Speaker 1: for him, Lizzie, Am I wrong? He wasn't in the news, right,

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Speaker 1: he was no Like the moment Jacks was away from

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Speaker 2: Him they had a baby, they were living you know,

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Speaker 2: hear anything very negative. Now, who's to say that he

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Speaker 2: I mean, the platform elevates it, right, And I think

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Speaker 1: He was not trying to save his family. He was

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Speaker 1: trying to save his job. That's what it was. Lizzie

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Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head, Come on home, depot.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly my clocket. No, that's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 1: And that's the reason why because like even when Andy

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Speaker 1: And for me, again, I'm not here to diagnose jacks,

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Speaker 1: it was said but not said that And I love

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Speaker 1: Kim Richards. I know it was said and not said that. Look,

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Speaker 1: the best place for healing. I'll just leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: That's how I feel like with Jacks. I want Jackson

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Speaker 1: I don't think the show and the fame, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: And based on his behavior on the show.

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Speaker 1: After leaving rehab, it was apparent and evident that he

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, and I think that it would be different

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Speaker 2: if he was absolutely needed.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: First season, we transitioned from a few of the vander

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Speaker 2: We have Janet, we have Danny, we have Brittany, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I think that performativeness was just comical.

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Speaker 2: I didn't believe the word that he said. I hate

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Speaker 2: it was filler fluff that we needed to hear because

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Speaker 2: you know, I shouldn't have said that to Brittany. I

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Speaker 2: I bet he says that to her every other day

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Speaker 2: it was performative. That was nice. I definitely didn't think

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Speaker 3: You made it a little bid.

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Speaker 2: You made me look like an asshole. I've done it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: So I know that there were faults on both sides,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, performative was the exact right word.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, move on, I'm like, what the angela basta?

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Speaker 2: Yes or no? Did you like? That's all she wanted

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Speaker 2: a lot. And I also I just keep playing back,

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Speaker 2: you know, anytime if she if she slips and falls back,

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Speaker 2: that's what Zach keeps trying to say, you know, he's

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Speaker 2: that you left, that you destroyed, and that is just

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Speaker 2: in Britain looked so beautiful, didn't she. I think it's

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Speaker 2: she has ever looked. The yellow was gorgeous, her hair

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Speaker 2: and it's okay if she has her tough days.

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Speaker 3: These things that she had to do.

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Speaker 1: We're alleging that perhaps this could have been everyone around

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Speaker 3: And look when it comes to Michelle, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that's going to go just swimmingly. But but

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00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: they they are very much like I separated. I don't

437
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: think either of them obviously we saw it with with

438
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: Jesse or with Michelle and the honeyman, they would not

439
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: have a problem dating other people, like yeah, yeah, yeah.

440
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 4: Now.

441
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: So to add some levity to the tension that they

442
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: both had. I think is funny that Jesse had to

443
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: clear up how he got money sent from the gay guy,

444
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: Like why do you even.

445
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: Break that up?

446
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: Like, Michelle, you knew what you were doing, You knew

447
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: what you did, and you knew what you were insinuating.

448
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: So Jesse said, a friend of theirs, who was actually

449
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: at their baby shower happens to be a gay guy,

450
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: and he zelled him some money on his birthday.

451
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: But she was like, who said it was anything.

452
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 2: More totally different than what she insinuated, right, I mean

453
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: she did what she insinuated at that winery, which looked hot.

454
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: It looked so hot. I was like, like they just wanted.

455
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: She got up and left and she screamed at him,

456
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, that seemed like something else

457
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: what we heard on that reading couch. We're all like, okay,

458
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 2: that was a birthday present your friends, Like if my

459
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: friends are having a bad day, oh, venmullum, some coffee

460
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: mine and it's a bunch of girls. So say what

461
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: you on.

462
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: But no, well, the best part to be listening was

463
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: Zach said it wasn't me Like, let's let's get that straight.

464
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 1: So speaking of Zach, listen, I like Zach. I think

465
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: Zach is hilarious. I think he's he's an amazing character

466
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: on the show. Now we do have to get into

467
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: the awful thing that he did say to Janet. And look,

468
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: I know that Janet, miss Jackson, if you're nasty, it's

469
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: not everyone's favorite, but no woman deserves to be told

470
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: the way Zach said it.

471
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 3: Again, in his defense, he said he blacked out.

472
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: He doesn't remember it, but Zach said that he wishes

473
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: Janet have a miscarriage.

474
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: He apologized for it. Look, I'll be honest with you,

475
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 3: I'm not.

476
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: Sure that's something that if I I was Janet, I

477
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: would ever get over like I to me, to me,

478
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: I think those are fighting words, and whether you were

479
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: drowned blacked out, I just don't think an apology.

480
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 3: Would ever live up to that.

481
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: That that statement not being a part of my memory

482
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: bank as I see this person.

483
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that was really stomach turning for

484
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: him as well to admit that, because I was under

485
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 2: the impression that that what they were talking about with

486
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: this whole miscarriage situation was what we saw at the

487
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: end of last season, which was this is no better.

488
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: I would like to preface it with that with this,

489
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: but I thought that it was when they were all

490
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: at Jacks's Bar the season finale, and and someone and

491
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: she was stressed out because she and she and Zach

492
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 2: were fighting. Jen and Zach were fighting, and she left

493
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: and one of the other girls they were talking to

494
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: Zach and they said, and you know, a high, high

495
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: stress environment like this, that could cause her to miss

496
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: carry And he said, I don't care. That is terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible.

497
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: But that's what I thought that they had been talking about.

498
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: And for for him to actually say, you know, out

499
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: of his mouth apparently I said that I hope that

500
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: she miscarried. That is that's really sad and really painful

501
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: for Janet, for Janet's husband and for everyone, but also

502
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: for him to sit there and admit, you know, on

503
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: the stage, I thought that the whole thing was sad

504
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: and uncomfortable, and you know, there's really no other words

505
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: for that it's sad and she has every right to

506
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: not move forward with him, but she seemed like she

507
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: was trying to.

508
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, lit this, she's better than me, and look.

509
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm all about forgiveness and and all of the those things.

510
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: But in his defense, he did seem sincere I would

511
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: like to see the work that needs to be done

512
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: to repair that friendship. Look, we have seen in this

513
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: reunion that when it comes to Zach, his favorite by

514
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: far is Brittany. Yes, and he like like he like

515
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: Britty belongs to him. He's like, Brittany's my friend, That's

516
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: my girl. That's all he cares about. He's just like

517
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: this is this is who I need, This is what

518
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: I need. And everybody around him is trying to figure out, like, Okay,

519
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: what's going on here because the dynamic between him Brittany

520
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: Janet Kristen. Did you give a sense that what the

521
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: girls were saying that he only wants to be friends

522
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: with not only but his friendship with Brittany seems to

523
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: be the one he cares about the most that his

524
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: friends just with the other girls.

525
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's nervous that his beef with Janet is

526
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: going to make Brittany pull away, and he does not

527
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: want that, you know, That's what he is. He is

528
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: worried and he feels what she has said, that she

529
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: will always take Janet's side, even though he is this

530
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: hometown friend, has been her friend for a long time.

531
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: And I think that he sees this like full apart

532
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: of their relationship if things go too left, and they

533
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: really have gone too left with Janet, you know, and

534
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: that's tough to be a friend in the middle of

535
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: that too. And I think that Brittany, I think, I

536
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: honestly think that Brittany, in her soul, deep down, I

537
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: think that she is just a really lovable, kind person.

538
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: She loves her friends, and it's hard to you know,

539
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: it does seem very surface with Zach at the beginning

540
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: of the season, because it's like, kind of what do

541
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: you what do you say after you've just said this

542
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: really terrible thing to my other friend. So I think

543
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: that that their relationship makes Zach nervous.

544
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, gread you hit thenother head there again. One thing

545
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: about Janet is the fact that in this reunion Lizzie,

546
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: she was being accused of being a different person on

547
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: camera than she is.

548
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: Quote unquote in real.

549
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: Life, Christen called her out, saying, look, Jane's cool as shit.

550
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: She's a funk girl.

551
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: But the moment they started filming, they said, who the

552
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: fuck is this woman? You know, Christen said it, even

553
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: Jesse said it. Jesse said that Janet is manipulative. Do

554
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: you see that as you watch the show, Lizzie, that

555
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: Janet is in her villain era? Listen, what we did

556
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: say is the fact that Janet is the former assistant

557
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: of Camera Diaz. She's a huge fanbout somebody. But I

558
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: don't know, it makes me tickle that she, like was

559
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: the assistant to Camera Diaz.

560
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

561
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: I think it's everything personally. Listen, Like what was it

562
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: like to her dating Benji? Like?

563
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: Is she cool in the carriage? You know what I mean?

564
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: Like you're going to be like, are you the Corriccie

565
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: best friends?

566
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: Yes?

567
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: Why? Ha? Has she acted in twenty years?

568
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: Like?

569
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: I would to know so much bout camerad as, But

570
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: I digress.

571
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: That's what they're gonna say about me when I joined

572
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Atlanta, They're say was the King's

573
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: former assistant?

574
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: I was, Lizzy?

575
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: Tell them all the great stuff that's all true. Do

576
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: you think Jenna acts differently on camera? Just based on

577
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: her behavior and what Krista and Jessie was saying.

578
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to go out on a limb and say no,

579
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: because if she was this big of a fan before,

580
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: she's always been in it, you know what I mean.

581
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: She's always if you like this stuff, you're always a

582
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: stir of the pot, you know, I mean, yeah, yeah,

583
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think that it's different now that

584
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: there are cameras on her. I don't think she is different.

585
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

586
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: Look, and I also think this you and our producers, right,

587
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: so we know when it comes to reality stars.

588
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: Hey, look I'm mad at it. Just be honest.

589
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: Here, when you are on camera filming a theme, you're

590
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: getting activated, you know, like like like in normal life,

591
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: you're probably speaking a different tone. You probably won't pry

592
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: as much. You probably you probably won't ask a tough question.

593
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: But you know, look, I have two hours. In this scene,

594
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: Lizzy called out the fact that ah It's the winery

595
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: was hot as shit. Nobody wants to be in the heat,

596
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: not delivering a good scene. They want to go home.

597
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: They want to give back to their lives.

598
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: So I think Janet just understands the assignment. I agree

599
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: with you. I think I think she understands the assignment.

600
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: And I'm not mad at it.

601
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: Oh, I think, yeah, me neither. I mean, there there

602
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: has to be a villain, right that that we like

603
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: the villains, and I think that she was the same way.

604
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I think when you roll with that crew anyways,

605
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: you know, it's good friends with Shena blah blah. I

606
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: think that she always heard all of this gossip, you know,

607
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: or all of the drama going on on vandor pump rolls,

608
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: and I think she was just as invested. And I

609
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: think that if the cameras were on her, then I

610
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: think she did.

611
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: The same thing for sure.

612
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: And it's funny because listen, you have to be really

613
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: good at your job to come with the line calling

614
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: Danny Danny darkoh I know.

615
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: And she was like, I think that's much better than

616
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: dark side Danny. Like they stop saying about.

617
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: You, Janet, you have a fan of me, bitch. I

618
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: like it. I like it. I love We're fan all

619
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: my Lizzy's at the episode at all.

620
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: It is it is, you know in this and I

621
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: would like to really fast go back and say, I

622
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: think it's kind of the same as whenever they said

623
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: this is this is not the same friend that we

624
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: had off camera. I think that correlates exactly, poor Senshamia.

625
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: It's always been your safe friend. Yeah, there is just

626
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: now a camera.

627
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, that's the thing. That's the thing. No,

628
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: that's true. But that's a really good point. That's a

629
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: good point.

630
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 3: You know. Look, when it.

631
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: Comes to Danny, maybe I'm the minority or the majority.

632
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, Lizzie. I I have a soft spot

633
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: for Danny.

634
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: You don't think he didn't and you think he did

635
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: something wrong. You think that he addressed it, and it's like,

636
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: move on.

637
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 3: I think this he gives me a very nice guy.

638
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: I think.

639
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: I think in real life, Danny is that brand you

640
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: in college who was like the fun friend, right, like

641
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: like who was.

642
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: The fun friend?

643
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: Who was the friend that's sort of like you know,

644
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: you would do like, you know, the liquor games.

645
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: With, the one that you would just go to all

646
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 3: the parties with.

647
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: I think Danny is like every jocks bff, you know,

648
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: maybe look girls on campus.

649
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, well yeah, I mean okay, I think

650
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: Nia is stunning and I think he needs to hang

651
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: right on to her.

652
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: Oh baby, Clearly, Danny, you want with nia baby because

653
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: I want to see the ex girlfriend you have one?

654
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 3: Clear?

655
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Speaker 2: But yes, yeah, he's a he's a fun, nice guy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And I think when it comes to his drinking.

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Speaker 1: I said this before, I said again, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he has a drinking problem, per se, I think he

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Speaker 1: I think I think he.

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Speaker 3: Drinks and he's a bad drunk.

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Speaker 1: I do too. I think it's a bad drunk and

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Speaker 1: does a dip between him and Jack's to me, like, look,

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Speaker 1: even Jack's apologizing to him, which I was like Jack's,

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Speaker 1: I can't.

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Speaker 3: This apology tour draw me off at the next stop.

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Speaker 3: I'm off this train. I can't take the tour to me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you should apologize, I get it, but I just

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Speaker 1: don't feel that it's genuine. And you could tell that

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00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: Danny was looking for answers like, no, dude, tell me

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Speaker 1: why you would say those things about me when I

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Speaker 1: was the only one really the hazard back. I know, dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's like, no, I want answers here. When

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Speaker 1: it comes to Danny, I think unfortunately the friends around

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Speaker 1: him saw somebody that, like you said, it's a bad

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Speaker 1: drunk and they used it for a storyline.

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Speaker 3: That's what I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and I think that I think that I

678
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: think the situation was uncomfortable and not okay. But I

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00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: did appreciate hearing all of Jasmine's side about, you know,

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Speaker 2: when she said, I just don't feel like it was

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00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: given equal apology treatment and taken as seriously as it

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Speaker 2: would have been if it happened to someone else in

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Speaker 2: the group. And and she was very transparent when she said,

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Speaker 2: and you know, her girlfriend is not a cast member

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Speaker 2: on the show. I think that, well, yeah, she's not right.

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00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: I mean, she's not a main titler, So I think it.

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Speaker 2: I think that it would have looked different, say, if

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Speaker 2: he did that to Janet, And but what's Jane's usband's name,

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Speaker 2: Jen and Jennet's husband Jason. Yes, you know, because those

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00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: are two people that you see constantly on the show,

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Speaker 2: so you're gonna have to really say I'm sorry to

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Speaker 2: both and address both. And Jasmine didn't feel like the

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Speaker 2: apology was, you know, addressed as as hard and as

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Speaker 2: important as it should have been to her girlfriend and

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Speaker 2: now fiance either. And I agree with that, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think that that's and I think that she has

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Speaker 2: every right to feel that way. And also, you know,

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Speaker 2: Danny's saying, well, I just didn't really think we're going

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Speaker 2: to bring that up, sir. You were on a reality show, hullo,

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Speaker 2: the first all cast, you brought it up because just

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Speaker 2: because it didn't happen on camera doesn't mean that we're

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Speaker 2: not going to talk about it, because this is the

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00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: way you made her feel and it wasn't appropriate. And

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Speaker 2: I think that Nia she speaks a lot for Daniel,

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Speaker 2: so she likes to call him and yes, yes, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but I think that she is I

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00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: think Danny should have handled this more himself and taken

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Speaker 2: far more accountability. And you know, if you don't want

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Speaker 2: to move on, that's okay, that's okay, but he can't

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Speaker 2: be surprised if she doesn't want to move on, and

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Speaker 2: I think that she does. And I think that we're

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Speaker 2: in this world where we have to relive it and

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Speaker 2: and it is what it is, and she's allowed to

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Speaker 2: feel every way that she wants to, especially about not

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Speaker 2: feeling the same you know way apologize to and respected

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Speaker 2: as the rest of the cast, especially with her fiance

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Speaker 2: who's not on camera all of the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jasmine then says Lizzie that she felt Danny's apology, you know,

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Speaker 1: felt like shit. A lot of people think Jasmine was

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Speaker 1: overreacting when it.

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Speaker 3: Comes to that.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think Jasmine put her foot in her mouth.

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Speaker 1: Jasmine's also printed the show. Heye, Jasmine, I think this,

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Speaker 1: I think is one of those things where Danny didn't apologize.

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Speaker 1: But I am of the school is you can't tell

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Speaker 1: somebody how to accept someone's apology, you know.

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Speaker 3: What I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think I think, I think I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people apologize just to move on from it, Like

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Speaker 1: like we talked about Jack's earlier.

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Speaker 3: So although I like Danny, I do agree with Jasmon.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, look, if she doesn't feel like since here,

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Speaker 1: give her that and maybe she'll come around to it.

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Speaker 3: That's how I feel about that situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, absolutely, and that and that's okay. And he

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00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: probably did mean it genuinely, but he but he did

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Speaker 2: it in the same way that Jacks did, just you know,

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Speaker 2: an apology. Hope we can move on. I am sorry.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he was sorry, but it was a much

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Speaker 2: bigger deal and and I think that he should have

742
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Speaker 2: asked what she needed from him to.

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Speaker 3: Move Yeah, good one. Good.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not always about you saying I'm sorry. It's

745
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Speaker 2: then about how how do you need us to proceed

746
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Speaker 2: as friends? You know, if if at all I would,

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Speaker 2: I would like to respect that and I want to

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Speaker 2: hear from you what you need out of this because

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Speaker 2: I was the one in the wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that, Lizy.

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Speaker 1: The reunion culminated Okay when Janet missus Jackson your nasty,

753
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Speaker 1: the villain of the Valley said that Danny has been

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Speaker 1: inappropriate with women as early as a Super Bowl, which

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl airs around look, I love football.

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Speaker 3: Around January of this year.

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Speaker 1: The reunion was taped in May, so in Janet's mind,

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Speaker 1: that's what three four months prior to the reunion taking

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Speaker 1: that's recent. Talk about a bomb drop with a great cliffhanger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously we're all gonna want to know

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Speaker 2: who she's talking about. It's out there. So even if

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Speaker 2: even if it wasn't really much like, the damage has

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Speaker 2: been done by saying it, so we all as audience

764
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Speaker 2: are like, okay, and you had a very pregnant wife

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Speaker 2: at home then.

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Speaker 1: You know right?

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Speaker 2: Yes, four under four baby.

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Speaker 3: Daddy boy? What did you do?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: What did you do? Well? Lizzie.

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Speaker 1: We will recap part three next week. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for hopping on, Liddie. I know you're very busy

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Speaker 1: organizing your life and mind, so I appreciate you as always.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. And next week I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: leave it on a cliphanger, hopefully just as good as Janet. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about with you what is next

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Speaker 2: for the Valley and a TBD cast member for next

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Speaker 2: season and how I think they are maneuvering to get

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Speaker 2: back on the show. So we can listen next week.

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Speaker 1: Listen next week, great drops for part three of the

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Speaker 1: Valor reunion so that Lisa can drop a bomb.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you, list day, talculate.

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Speaker 2: Time, Bye, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.

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Speaker 3: With the Lack Effect Network.

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