1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on dan Hoard and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast, the That's. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: The State of the World. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: To day edition, as I discussed the state of the 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Bengals and the rest of the AFC North with the 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: NFL Network's Adam Rank. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: to you by pay Core, Proud to be the Bengals 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: official hr software provider, by Alta Fiber future proof fiber 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Internet designed to elevate your home, business and community to 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: a new level, and by Kettering Health the best care 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: for the best fans. 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He wrote about the teams in the AFC 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: North last week, and join me to discuss the Bengals 28 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: and their division rivals. Adam, your State of the Franchise 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: articles end with five categories for determining whether a team 30 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: is going to be successful for the upcoming season. So 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: the categories are as follows A win the Super Bowl, 32 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: B make a playoff run, see earn a playoff berth, 33 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: D finish above five hundred or e show progress. In 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: the AFC North, two teams are a win the Super Bowl. 35 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: The other two are B make a playoff run. As 36 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: you have studied all thirty two teams, is there any 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: other division in the NFL that's like that? 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: Not at all, not even close. 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: You know, the NFC North has got an interesting set 40 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 4: of circumstances as well, But I don't think that any 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: team or any division is as complete from top to 42 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 4: bottom as the AFC North all four of those teams, 43 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 4: and honestly, like if any four of those teams ended 44 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: up in the Super Bowl wouldn't be a complete shock. 45 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 4: I think two of them you'd be like, okay, yeah, 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 4: that we've seen them make runs towards the championship game. 47 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: The other two haven't really had playoff success over the 48 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: last number of years. But I think, truly, when you 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 4: look at division's top to bottom, there is no team, 50 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 4: there's no division better than the AFC North. 51 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: So the Bengals are an a in order to be 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: successful in your opinion, they must win the Super Bowl. 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: Why is the bar set that high? 54 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: Why? 55 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 4: I believe that when you look at the quarterback situation 56 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 4: and how well he's played when completely healthy, there should 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: be no other expectation for this Bengals team. And obviously 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: getting to the Super Bowl wasn't one of them. But 59 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 4: at some point you want to win one of these things. 60 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: I was convinced coming into twenty twenty two going up 61 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 4: against the Rams, despite the fact that it was in 62 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 4: Sofi Stadium, I really thought the Bengals were going to 63 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 4: I thought they were the better team and thought they 64 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 4: were going to end up winning that one, and so 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: I still believe that the expectation should be the same. 66 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: I don't think that despite the fact of what happened 67 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: last year, which again it's interesting because I wrote this 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: in the article, like you look at the Bengals season 69 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 4: last year and you think to yourself, like, I was 70 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: a bad season, nine to eight, despite not having Joe 71 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 4: Burrow for a good chunk of it, and even Joe 72 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: Burrow not being healthy for the majority of it. I mean, 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: you remember that Mudday night game again the Rams, where 74 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: you're like, what should they do? Like you almost thought 75 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: that should they shut him down? Like you didn't know. 76 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: Despite all of that, with everything that was going wrong, 77 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: it was still a nine to eighteen, which in they 78 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: call that the Tomlin. I believe just getting nine to eight, 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: which is good enough, that's all we care about now. 80 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: I don't want to. I don't want to take it 81 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: easy on the Bengals. I don't I don't want to. 82 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 4: I don't want to sit here and be like, ah, 83 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 4: if you win a couple of playoffs. No, we're past that. 84 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is too good. T Higgins is on his 85 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 4: franchise tender. It's time to go out and win one 86 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: of these and I think that the Bengals have a 87 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: special group of players and I think they understand the mission. 88 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 4: They understand what it is, what's at stake. Ever since 89 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: they got to the Super Bowl a couple of years ago, 90 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 4: I think that that that bar has been raised. And 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: I think for Joe Burrow, that's how he's going to 92 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 4: be measured moving forward. Is what do you do in 93 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 4: the postseason and beyond? Can you win super Bowls? Can 94 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 4: you be that guy who breaks through? You know, you 95 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: don't want to be Mano. Not that Dan Marino had 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: a terrible career, but Dan Marino goes to the Super 97 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: Bowl in his second season and everybody was like, well, 98 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: you know he'll be back, He'll get into their opportunity, 99 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: and it never happened. I would not want to see 100 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 4: that for the Cincinnati Bengals. I really want to see 101 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: them make that next step. And when it comes to 102 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 4: teams in the ASC, and you talk about how tough 103 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: the AFC is, who's the team that gives the Chiefs 104 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: the most trouble? 105 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: Like it is the Bengals. 106 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 4: Like the Chiefs go in there and they kind of 107 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 4: ruin everybody, you know, they go in there, they make 108 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: Baltimore's life miserable, Miami not competitive. Jacksonville did okay against 109 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: them a couple of years ago but eventually got kind 110 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: of blown out. It's the Bengals, And while I might 111 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 4: advise against the doing the burrow head thing, I still 112 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: liked it, and I liked the moxie, and I think 113 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: a lot of it. 114 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 2: And it's not really just Burrow. 115 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 4: It's lou An Roumo who makes everything so difficult for them. 116 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: So I think that the expectation should be the super Bowl. 117 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: Even last year, next to last game of the regular 118 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: season without the Bengals led. 119 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: With with Jacob Browning playing quarterback, and you thought, like, 120 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: you know what, they're doing it again, like they're doing 121 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: it and again, like you know, the twelfth, the twelfth, 122 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: the twelfth Chief comes out at some point too where 123 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I forgot, you got to deal with 124 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 4: this still, But yeah, like that was a thing, like 125 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 4: a regular season game. That's another crazy thing about the 126 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 4: Bengals season is like nine and eight, like okay and 127 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 4: everything like that, But man, that game they should have 128 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: won that game against the Kansas City Chiefs, should should 129 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: have come away with that one. And again it comes 130 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 4: down to the coordinator and you know, thank goodness, and 131 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 4: I mean, it's unfortunate. I don't know if lou has 132 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: aspirations to be a head coach, he does or anything 133 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 4: like that. I'm sure he does. Everybody does. It's amazing 134 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: to me that he doesn't get considered like it really is. 135 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 4: And he's he's a big time he reminds me. I 136 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: don't know if I wrote this or not. I was 137 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: thinking it were. 138 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: It's kind of like Robert Rory where you're like, oh, like, 139 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: you know, Robert Orriy averages game bomp. 140 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: You know, he averages seven points a game, but yet 141 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: he makes the big shots over and over again. And 142 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: that's the most interesting thing about the Bengals is you 143 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: look at their defense. They're never a top fifteen defense. 144 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: It's not like the Jets, like, oh, they're the number 145 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: two overall defense. But when it comes to the playoffs, 146 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: when you need to devise a scheme to slow down 147 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: players like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes, nobody's better than 148 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 4: lou Anaruma. And to me, if I'm hiring a coach, 149 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: if I'm hiring a coach and I know that there 150 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: is a lot of job openings in the AFC. I'm 151 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: thinking about Tennessee in particular. I'm like, ooh, Like you 152 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: don't want to have the guy who kind of owns 153 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: like the guy who's kind of done a really nice 154 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: job against some of these AFC teams, Like okay, so 155 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: be it. But man, I think at some point I 156 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: think of the Jets as the one like if things 157 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: don't work out for the Jets this year, like okay, 158 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 4: Like I know nobody wants to hire defensive coordinators anymore, 159 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: but I think that he really deserves it, and I'm 160 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: impressed by his game and I'm impressed every time I 161 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: see him in those big moments because they really do 162 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: find a way to shut op posing teams down. 163 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: So that's the perfect segue to my next question, because 164 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: one of the categories you have in your articles for 165 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: every NFL team is most important non quarterback, and I 166 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: think in recent years where the Bengals are concerned everybody, 167 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: we'd say offensive line because it's been all about trying 168 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: to protect Joe Burrow better. But you have picked the 169 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: defensive line, specifically two defensive tackles. Rookie Chris Jenkins, the 170 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: second round pick out of Michigan and Sheldon Rankins. 171 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: The free agent signing. 172 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the offensive line was a I feel 173 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: like we address that enough, like you talk about that enough, 174 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 4: like you talk about Burrow, Zach Moss coming in to 175 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 4: play running back and everything like that. But the defensive 176 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 4: line to me was another sticking point and trying to 177 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 4: get that pressure on the quarterback. And I was really 178 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: impressed number one with a draft pick. I thought that 179 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: was the fact that he fell that far. I'm like, Okay, 180 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: that's a perfect spot for him. The free agent signing 181 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: was good. You can get pressure on the outside, but 182 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 4: if you can sort of get up the middle and 183 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 4: collapse the pocket, and we've seen that a lot with 184 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: these Bengals defenses over the years. 185 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: If you can get that. 186 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: Solved and get that short up, I think that that 187 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 4: helps them moving forward. When you're playing against all these 188 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: great quarterbacks, what is one of the different Like you 189 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 4: look at what really frustrated Tom Brady back in the day, 190 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 4: it's like pressure up the middle. 191 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: And that's for a lot of quarterbacks now. 192 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: Obviously Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen have the ability to 193 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: scramble out of the pocket and everything like that. But 194 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: you still want to flush them like, you still want 195 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: to get them off rhythm and really just be a 196 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: pest for lack of a better term. So I really 197 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: thought that that was kind of an underrated thing that 198 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 4: the Bengals did during the offseason. And again looking through this, 199 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: you know you can see. I mean, obviously, Jamar Chase 200 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: is wildly important for this team. Protecting Joe Burrow is 201 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 4: wildly important. But I did want to give a little 202 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: bit of a shout out to the defense because I 203 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: think it is important to get pressure on the opposing quarterbacks. 204 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: And I felt Network candalyst Adam Rank is our guest. 205 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: You can read his state of the franchise stories on 206 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: all thirty two NFL teams at NFL dot com. You 207 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: highlight a few key players or coaches for every NFL team. 208 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: For the Bengals, you've picked out new offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher, 209 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: running back Zach Moss, and wide receiver Jermaine Burton. Let's 210 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: specifically talk about Moss. What do you make of the 211 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: Zach Moss Chase Brown combo taking over for the guy 212 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: who got almost all of the work, Joe Mixon. 213 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: Zach Moss was tremendous last year and I felt like 214 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: the cert like if he would have been able to 215 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: give it an opportunity to play a full season. Now, 216 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: obviously he gets bumped from his gig, which is going 217 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 4: to happen life of a backup. He really did show 218 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: some promise, and I don't think that he needs to 219 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: come into Cincinnati and be the number one guy and 220 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: take all the carries like Joe Mixon did because of 221 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: who they've got there. 222 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: And we talked about this. 223 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 4: We talked about this in the fantasy take too with 224 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 4: Brown there, and I kind of stole this from you, 225 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: and I'll let everybody know. I'll pull back the curtain. 226 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: I didn't like, listen, just sell. Everybody knows when I 227 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: do this with all the teams. If I when I 228 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 4: have contacts with certain teams, I'll be hey, let me 229 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 4: ask you a question. Because one of the things that 230 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 4: we liked about Joe Mixon, and you pointed this out 231 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 4: to me, and I was like, oh, yeah, that is 232 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: a great point is that Joe Mixon's great, consistent, sturdy, 233 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: but wasn't like a home run hitter. And you want 234 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 4: the you want the Nelly Dela Cruz, the Joey Vado type, 235 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: a home run hitter who can come in there and 236 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: give you a little bit of pop. And I think 237 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 4: that's a dynamic that's going to be added to this 238 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: Bengals offense this season. I thought last year he was 239 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 4: really good. What do you have like five point six 240 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 4: yards per carry something ridiculous Like he. 241 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: Did a great job. 242 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 4: So I think this running back tandem is going to 243 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 4: be good because Zach Moss has the consistency, He can 244 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: do the kind of stuff that Joe Mixon does, but 245 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: it's but it's it's Brown who can go out there 246 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 4: and give you a little bit more punch. And when 247 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: you have a team with Joe Burrow and Chase if 248 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 4: you have the ability to hit a home run with 249 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 4: your running back when you're inside the tent like your 250 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: own ten or own twenty, anything like that, having that 251 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: kind of threat can really change that a dynamic of 252 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 4: an offense, something that they haven't had over the last 253 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 4: couple of years. 254 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd is gone and will be missed, but they 255 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: drafted Jermaine Burton. Yeah, this past year. They drafted Charlie 256 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: Jones and Andre yoc Vash. They have added Mike Caseki 257 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: as a wide receive as a tight end weapon. How 258 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: do you think those weapons stack up with the rest 259 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: of the pack. 260 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: I like Burton a lot. 261 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 4: I think that he can come in and really making 262 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: an impact immediately. I you know, a lot of people 263 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: look at this through a fantasy lens and you've got 264 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: t Higgins and Bartase getting the majority of the of 265 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 4: the of the targets. But when Tyler Boyd was here, 266 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: he was the number one slot receiver, Like he had 267 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 4: the most targets for a slot receiver since I think 268 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 4: it was twenty twenty two or it excually twenty twenty. 269 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 4: And obviously he's in Tennessee now, but like that's still 270 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 4: a huge part of this offense. And whomever steps in there, 271 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: and I think that Burton can come in to be 272 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: that guy, it's going to get a lot of opportunities. 273 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: Mike is sicky, you know before the last couple of seasons, 274 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 4: which really didn't the fit didn't really work out for him, 275 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 4: But he was a guy who was consistently getting around 276 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: seven hundred receiving yards a year. These guys can come 277 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: in and add something to the team, like you have superstars. 278 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 4: I think that's what people like gets lost a lot 279 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 4: of times is that you have superstars. We have Jamar 280 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: Chase and Tyler and to T Higgins. You've got that covered, 281 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 4: but sometimes you need that gritty underneath guy. It's third 282 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: and nine, you know the defense is rolling over to 283 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: Jamar Chase. If you can get somebody with a pretty 284 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 4: good one on one matchup, you want to go to him. 285 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 4: And that's one of these and we need and Weed. 286 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: The Bengals need somebody like that to step up. I'm 287 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: getting ready to do my Bears podcast, so I'm getting 288 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 4: used to saying the West, but like, those kind of 289 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 4: guys matter, and it's the most most frustrating thing. Like, 290 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 4: think about it last year when you were watching like 291 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns and when David and Joku started taking off, 292 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 4: Like how annoying that is as a fan, Like, oh 293 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 4: my god, Okay, we got a Marii Cooper covered got 294 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 4: this guy And then you're like, oh, it's in Joco 295 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 4: third and nine. 296 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: He gets a ten yard reception. 297 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 4: Those are the type of players that you're looking for 298 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 4: with it's Bengals offense. And Joe Burrow has done a 299 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 4: great job of including a lot of different people into 300 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 4: this and I think of like it's funny because the 301 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: Bengals have had kind of like Rando tight Ends over 302 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: the last couple of years, but always seem to make 303 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 4: big plays. And I think that's what they got, and 304 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: they've done a really nice job of replenishing that roster. 305 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: And I think Burton is also there just. 306 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 4: In case te Higgins eventually moves on, but right now, 307 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: I think that he can step in and kind of 308 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: take some of that production that Tyler Boyd had. 309 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow helps tight ends get paid. He did it 310 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: with c j Uzama, got a big zob from the Jets. 311 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: He did it with Hayden Hurst, got a big day, 312 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: a big deal from the Panthers. Mike Kasicki signs a 313 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: one year deal. He produces in a big way for Cincinnati. 314 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: Chances are he's going to get a big contract from 315 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: somebody else. 316 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll go to Carolina and get millions of dollars. Yeah, 317 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: something like that. That's a great job with that. Yeah, 318 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: I was trying to think. 319 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 4: I was trying to think of ben Utech if that 320 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 4: if that crossed, but no, it was it was Oma, yeah, 321 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 4: pre Burrow And sometimes like listen, as we get older, 322 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 4: you're like, did they play together. 323 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: Did Dan Ross play with Burton? No? 324 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: Okay, but you know what I'm saying, like you kind 325 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: of like, but like cj Uzama was the guy that 326 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 4: was thinking of. 327 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: Cj Uzama was a is a player that I really like. 328 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: But he is also of that mold of Okay, he's 329 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 4: not he's not a superstar per se, like he's not 330 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: Tony Gonzalez, but still just is so good and so adapted, 331 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: like oh, they're on the goal line, like, okay, they 332 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,359 Speaker 4: got mixing covered, they got chased. Oh there's there's Uzama 333 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: just going out there and catching a touchdown. I think 334 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: it's mostly frustrating from fantasy to that you have those 335 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 4: players and you're like, of course it's cj Uzama. Couldn't 336 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 4: be anybody else I have. I have Tyler Boydy that 337 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 4: still couldn't be that guy. But you know what, those 338 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 4: kind of things happen. 339 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: Excellent deep cut with Dan Ross. By the way, Bengals 340 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: fans will appreciate that in your State of the Bengals story, 341 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: you don't specifically name a weakness or a biggest question mark. 342 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: Do you have one with Cincinnati? 343 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: I mean you got to protect the quarterback. I think 344 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: that's what I think it comes down to the. 345 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: Health of Joe Burrow, and it's I don't know if 346 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: it's fair to question. I I don't like saying players 347 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: are injury prone because I think it's like it's a 348 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: violent game, like anybody like nobody's impervious to injuries. 349 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: There's nobody that's you know, that escapes it. 350 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: You know, it gets everybody at some point. I mean, listen, 351 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: you look at what happened to Aaron Rodgers last season, 352 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 4: and I was riding up the Jets thing today and 353 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 4: it's just like that wasn't like the offensive line, that 354 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: wasn't this or you know, anything like that. It was 355 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: like it was the turf, you know, and it's a 356 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: turf monster and everything like that. So truly it does 357 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: come down to the health of Joe Burrow. Although Browning 358 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: play pretty well last listen. But the thing that that's 359 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: the big key, and it's weird to me, and maybe 360 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 4: I spend too much time on TikTok like some sort 361 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: of like I don't know if it's one person or 362 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: if it's a it's a number of people who like 363 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 4: somehow have now decided they're taking aim at Joe Burrow. 364 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, really, like you want to you want to 365 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: take dame of Joe Burrow, Like okay, Like I will 366 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 4: have that conversation. 367 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: I think that he's one of the best. 368 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 4: In the game, and I think we saw that when 369 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: he came to LSU, just the swagger and everything about him, 370 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 4: and you know, coming into Cincinnati, going to AFC championship 371 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: games in two times in his first three years, Like 372 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 4: you can't ignore stuff like that, Like he is a 373 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: big time player. But the truth is he's got to 374 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 4: be healthy. But that's every that's every quarterback, that's every 375 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 4: that's everything. And so I do hope that the changes 376 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 4: that they've made over the offensive line help out and everything. 377 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: But you know, Joe, I have a lot of faith in. 378 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 4: I think he's one of the bright young stars in 379 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 4: this game. I am not one of those haters. 380 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. 381 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 4: It offends me in a way, but I think that 382 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: that's basically what it comes down to. It's Joe Burrow 383 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 4: is healthy. This team's going deep into the playoffs. So 384 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: I don't I don't think there's any question about that. 385 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has finished two of his four seasons. He 386 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl and won. He lost the 387 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: AFC Championship on the last second field goal in the 388 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: other So that's what a healthy Joe Burrow does. 389 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. And that's the thing too. You know, 390 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 4: we saw what happened last year with Lamar Jackson. Now 391 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: he was coming off a season where he didn't get 392 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: the chance to finish it. The Ravens fell off at 393 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 4: the end of the year. Lamar Jackson stays healthy, he's 394 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 4: a near unanimous MVP. They go all the way to 395 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 4: the AFC Championship Game and then blow it per usual, 396 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 4: but still they go to the AFC Championship game. Similar 397 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 4: thing with Joe Burrow if he's healthy, Like, that's a 398 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 4: that's a championship team too. And I know when I'm 399 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 4: sitting there doing the records, like everybody will look, I 400 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: do have the. 401 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: Bengals making the playoffs. 402 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 4: Obviously, it might not be as many wins as people 403 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: would want because I think the schedule is a little 404 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 4: bit tougher. But at the same time, you're like, this 405 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 4: is a team that doesn't need to go fourteen and 406 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: three to get the number one overall seed. 407 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: To go out there and make some noise. 408 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: And sometimes too, like it didn't really help out the 409 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens at all. So for me, I think as 410 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 4: long as the Bank, I think they're smart about the 411 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: way that they approach things. Get to the playoffs, and 412 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 4: when the playoffs start, nobody wants to see the Cincinnati Banks. Nobody, 413 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 4: And there was a big read like they could Kansas 414 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: City was playing with a lot of desperation last year 415 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: in that game. Even they knew, like I know that 416 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow's not playing, they still didn't want to see 417 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: the Bengals in the playoffs. And you could tell by 418 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 4: the intensity in which they closed that game out. It 419 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 4: was the absolute truth. And I think a lot of 420 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 4: AFC teams feel the same way. 421 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: Well with Adam in a moment. 422 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: But first, a quick reminder that the Bengals Booth podcast 423 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: is brought to you by pay Corps, Proud to be 424 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals official HR software provider, by all toa fiber 425 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: future proof fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business 426 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: and community to a new level, and by Kettering Health 427 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health is 428 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Adam Rank from 429 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: the NFL Network is our guest. You can follow him 430 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: on x at Adam Rank. Let's take a closer look 431 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: at the rest of the division. You mentioned the Ravens 432 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: thirteen and four last year, two games better than any 433 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: other team in the AFC, but they couldn't beat the 434 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: Chiefs at home in the playoffs. They lost a lot, 435 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: They lost fifteen free agents, They lost three of their 436 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: starting offensive linemen. They obviously have added Derrick Henry. What 437 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: do you think of the Ravens? Are they as good 438 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: as they were a year ago? 439 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: It's a good program. I mean, let's be honest, Like they. 440 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 4: Do a great job of bringing in talent, replacing guys. 441 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 4: They did sign their defensive tackle and jeez, Louise. 442 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: But adabk Justin Madabek. 443 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: Yes, sorry, listen, fantasy guy. I mostly the other that 444 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 4: was a huge signing for me. And the thing that 445 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: always kills me about the Ravens, and I'm sure that 446 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: anybody who roots for the Bengals understands this frustration is like. 447 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: How do they always get these guys in the draft? 448 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 4: Like remember a couple of years ago, just watching the draft, 449 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 4: and you're like, how are the Ravens. 450 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: Drafting Kyle Hamilton, Like does how does that end up? Like, 451 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 2: how do they end up with him? That does doesn't 452 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: make sense. 453 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 4: I was at the Rookie premiere and I saw him 454 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 4: walking around in a Raven's uniform and like, this just 455 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: doesn't make sense. 456 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: He's a top player. I don't know how he fell 457 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: to them. 458 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: Similarly, they got Nate Wiggins out of Clemson this year 459 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 4: and they're like, how, Like. 460 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: What do it they draft thirtieth? 461 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 4: How does this team always seem to find a way, 462 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 4: And like Nate Wagans will be an All Pro within 463 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 4: two seasons just because he plays for the Ravens. It's 464 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: that kind of annoying franchise. But at the same time, 465 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 4: not annoying enough because they're winning Super Bowls or anything 466 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 4: like that, but still annoying because they're always good and 467 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 4: they're always going to be into the mix. And I 468 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 4: think Derrick Henry is a significant, significant addition for them. 469 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 4: I mean, this is one that should have happened. Lad 470 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: they should have made the trade during the season. I 471 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 4: don't know how that didn't happen. I wish the NFL 472 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: had better trade deadline deals, but it just seems like 473 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 4: an automatic thing and since twenty twenty, you know, no quarterback, 474 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 4: no running back has had more rushing yards, So it'll 475 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 4: be an interesting dynamic. What I'm curious to see does 476 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 4: that benefit the wide receivers, Like is Rashad Bateman actually 477 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 4: going to. 478 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: Go out and do anything? Is Zay Flowers gonna do anything? 479 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 4: Or is it going to be their Mark Andrews and 480 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: Isaiah likely as the two best receivers on that team. 481 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 4: So I like the Ravens. I think it's a good organization. 482 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: I think they do a lot of things well. But 483 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: I think that you know, as critical as everybody is 484 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 4: with the Cincinnati Bengals, why aren't we more critical about 485 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 4: the Ravens, Like why why do they always get like 486 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 4: everything's assumed with them? But with the Bengals, who finished 487 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: nine to eight with a backup quarterback, like they have 488 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 4: to seemingly like defend themselves every year, but you don't 489 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: have to get a chance to do it on the field. 490 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: But that Ravens team is pretty good. 491 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland went eleven and six before getting blown up by 492 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: the Texans forty five to fourteen in the playoffs. Deshaun 493 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: Watson is expected to be ready for Week one after 494 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: his shoulder surgery. Are you buying the Browns as a 495 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: contender with Deshaun Watson. 496 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: Listen, you saw what kind of trouble I got in 497 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 4: with David and Joku last year. I'm not I'm not 498 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: disrespector in the Browns talk about that. 499 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: He went after you in December. 500 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: He did. Yeah, it was it was my name, my name. 501 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: It's both flattering and it was funny because something had 502 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 4: happened with my alma mater, cal State Fullerton. They were 503 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: playing in a big basketball game. I think they're playing 504 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 4: UCLA or somebody like that, and they lost. So people 505 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 4: are like ooh, you know, like on Twitter already, they're like, oh, 506 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 4: rough night for Adam Rank and I'm like, well, I'm like, jeez, 507 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 4: that's a deep cut for you people to be thinking 508 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 4: that this college basketball game has been rough for me. 509 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: Like, oh, David and Joku called me out. 510 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 3: Got it. 511 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: So that was fun and we had, you know, I 512 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: enjoy you know, it's kind of funny. We did. 513 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 4: Think I did the whole spit take on the NFL 514 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 4: Fantasy Live, which people. 515 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: Are like, was that scripted? 516 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 4: I'm like, obviously, like I'm sitting there with a cough, 517 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 4: like when have you ever seen me drinking coffee during 518 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: the middle of a segment? When have I been on 519 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 4: camera that long? They're usually running b roll over us, 520 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: but it was It was shocking. And then I did 521 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 4: get an opportunity to see him at the Super Bowl, 522 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 4: so we did. 523 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: We did squash the beef. 524 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: I didn't realize too that my good friend Akbar Baja 525 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: Biamila is good friends with David and Joko, and I'm like, 526 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 4: you couldn't put in a good word, like never once 527 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: did you think to call him and be like. 528 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: Hey, But it was fun. 529 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: We had some fun with the Cleveland Brownspans, and it 530 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 4: felt like I had settled everything. I did a couple 531 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 4: of cameos, I did podcasts trying to like smooth everything over, 532 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 4: and then we came up for the game picks, and 533 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 4: I picked the Texans. I think it was the only 534 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 4: one at the NFL network who picked thet Texans, and 535 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 4: then the Brown Spans they came after maybe MJD. MJD 536 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: would have been the only one because he's really good 537 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 4: at this. And I remember they at first they came 538 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 4: after me, but they're like, oh, you're doing us a 539 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: favor because you've been picking against this all year. 540 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, dude, you guys are losing. You're not 541 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: winning this game. 542 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 4: And they did it, and it went about as well 543 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 4: as I had expected it for the Texans at least, 544 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: I think that this team is good. Defensively, they're good. 545 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 4: You know, Miles Garrett one of the best in the game. 546 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm happy that he won Defensive Player of 547 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: the Year, but I do sort of get like the TJ. Watt, 548 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: Like I can see where he feels slighted, where you're like, yeah, 549 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 4: he's not kind of a point. But hey, the Browns 550 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 4: were a big story and Joe Flacco was fun, and 551 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 4: so there was a lot of good things going on. 552 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: They do have some issues at the quarterback position. Joe 553 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 4: Flacco is obviously in Indianapolis right now. He's been replaced 554 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 4: by Jamis Winston, which is important because Deshaun Watson has 555 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 4: not played more than six games in a season with 556 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns. His passer rating is somewhere right around 557 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: eighty compared to one hundred when he was with the 558 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: Houston Texans. They really need to figure this out, and 559 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: they need to figure out what they're doing with a 560 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: Marii Cooper. They need to get him signed into camp 561 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 4: and everything like that, because I like the trade for 562 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 4: Jerry Judy, but the Jerry Judy trade doesn't matter if 563 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 4: you don't have a Marii Cooper, like you want Jerry 564 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 4: Judy and to Marii Cooper and some of the other 565 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 4: guys that they have there, and then Joku obviously like, yeah, 566 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 4: you want to have that great robust receiving corps, I 567 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 4: will point out, and then Nick Chubbs out, we don't 568 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 4: know what we're gonna get with him, but his replacements 569 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 4: played pretty well in his steed, so that's fine. 570 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, though. 571 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 4: I will and it's fair to point out the Browns 572 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 4: were five and one when he was the starting quarterback, 573 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 4: so it's fair to say, like, hey, this is a 574 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 4: pretty good organization. It's a pretty good team. But it's 575 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 4: hard to live that way, like you're really like, yeah, 576 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 4: you're five and one. I will give you the credit 577 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 4: for that. They did play very well. His best game 578 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: of the season was his final one before he got 579 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 4: hurt and was out for the rest of the year. 580 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 4: So I'm buying the Browns as a very team that 581 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 4: should make the playoffs and super Bowl. Aspirations are a 582 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 4: little rich. But at the same time, for to be 583 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 4: a successful season, you've got to the playoffs. You need 584 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 4: to go win a couple of games. But I still 585 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 4: think that's a pretty good that's a pretty good team. 586 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 4: They should have some success. I do think they'll be okay. 587 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: I don't think they're better than the Bankers, but they're good. 588 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: It's a good team. I'm not disrespecting. I'm David, you're 589 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: a good team. You will get double digit you should 590 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 4: get nine to ten wins. 591 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: Your gut, David Nijoku will get We'll find a way 592 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: to listen to this and story until next December. Take 593 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: another shot at you. Let's get to the Steelers. 594 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: By the way, they ever think about that too, Like 595 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: you just won the division. 596 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 597 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 4: I was on a GMFB and they were like we 598 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 4: were talking about it, and I said, you know, because 599 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 4: it happened to Peter Schrager one time, and he was like, 600 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 4: it's kind of jarring. I'm like it is, and then 601 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: like when you started to examine it, you're like, you 602 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 4: just won. Like I get like you want to go 603 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: after like haters and things like that, but like you 604 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 4: should go be happy wait on the next day to 605 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: call out the haters. But you know, I got called 606 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 4: out for it. I was over in Cleveland for a 607 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: little bit. I was like Sean Michaels in Canada during 608 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 4: the nineteen nineties. 609 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: So that was fun. 610 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 4: It's all in good fun, don't It's not like he 611 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: personally knows me. 612 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 2: Oh he does now, but he didn't personally know me. 613 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: He knows me as a character on TV. 614 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 4: It's like, it's like if I didn't like Walter White, 615 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 4: Like it's nothing to do with Brian Cranston, but I 616 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 4: don't like Walter White thing, so I'm fine with it. 617 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: Was the exact quote. Adam ranked that guy stinks. 618 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 4: Guy sucks. Yeah, that guy sucks. That'll be the name 619 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 4: of my comedy special. Adam ranked that guy sucks. 620 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: With David sitting in the front row. 621 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, the Steelers ten and seven last year lost 622 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: in the playoffs to Buffalo, their twentieth consecutive non losing season. 623 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: There's the stat Gosh, they've changed quarterbacks. Thirty five year 624 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: old Russell Wilson twenty five year old Justin Field. It's 625 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: going to be one of the two who wins the 626 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: job and does that make Pittsburgh any better. 627 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson should win that job and he should be 628 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 4: the starting quarterback. 629 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: It will make them better. Anything other than Kenny Pickett 630 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: should make them better. 631 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 4: They really fumbled the bag with that one. I really 632 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 4: thought that that was a very questionable pick. And I 633 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 4: remember Franco Harris how excited he was reading the card, 634 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: and it was a great moment. It was a great 635 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: TV moment. Pittsburgh kid going, you know, our guy who 636 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 4: played at Pittsburgh going on to play for the Steelers. 637 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 4: There was a lot to like there. But at the 638 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: same time, looking at him as a college prospect, you're like, 639 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know Pittsburgh, 640 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 4: but okay, Russell Wilson makes them better. And I think 641 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 4: he's getting back to a formula which made him so 642 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 4: successful in the past, playing on a team with a 643 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 4: great defense, the ability to run the football, which should 644 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 4: open up his play action specialty. Like his passer rating 645 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 4: is somewhere around one to ten on the play action pas. 646 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 4: If he can get that cooking with George Pickens, there's 647 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 4: a real opportunity for him to go back there and 648 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 4: kind of, you know, rewrite history for himself. To me, 649 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 4: it's kind of similar to what Kurt. 650 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: Warner was doing. 651 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 4: He played for the Rams, obviously won a couple of 652 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: Super bowl or won a Super one one Super Bowl, 653 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 4: won a Super Bowl, lost a Super Bowl. Like Russ 654 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 4: goes to the Giants and despite the fact that the 655 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 4: Giants were five and four, they still benched him for 656 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: Eli Manning and then you know, he goes to Arizona 657 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 4: and has that great third act. Russell Wilson can have 658 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 4: that kind of great third act and the pairing with 659 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 4: George Pickens should help him a lot. Justin Fields, I'm 660 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: a huge fan of I believe Pittsburgh will slow play 661 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: this a little bit, and I truly believe that they're 662 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 4: gonna end up finding ways to get him into the 663 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 4: offense creatively. Now, the folks at EA Sports think that 664 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 4: they should be on special teams, and if I'm if 665 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: I'm justed, I would try to find a way to 666 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 4: make myself as valuable as possible, Like find a way 667 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 4: to do as much as you can to really like 668 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 4: ingratiate yourself into this team and knowing that you're going 669 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 4: to get an opportunity at some point, so he will 670 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 4: get some chances he will. I don't know if it'll 671 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: be a Taysom Hill type of situation, but something similar 672 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 4: to that. A real dynamic, special player who should be 673 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: who should be featured in a variety of different ways, 674 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 4: and I hope that they find a way to really 675 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 4: truly lock in and get the best out of him. 676 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 4: I remember his rookie season in a game against the 677 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers. He was making incredible throws. He rallied his 678 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 4: team and it looked like, Okay, there's something special there. 679 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: And then they changed coaches and it was never really 680 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 4: quite the same. Pittsburgh has a history of being able 681 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 4: to develop some quarterbacks, Kenny Pickett notwithstanding, but I think 682 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 4: that they did a great That's that's funny to me, 683 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 4: like they were so scarred by the Kenny Pickett experiment. 684 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 4: We need all the quarterbacks, Let's get everybody. Let's let's 685 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 4: bring in every I'm surprised I didn't bring in Zach 686 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: Wilson as well, Like, let's do let's throw as many 687 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: people at this situation as possible, because we'll figure it 688 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: out somehow. But that's a good team, and the defense 689 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 4: is great and TJ. Watt I listen for all the 690 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 4: Steeler fans who were thinking that he should have been 691 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: the Defensive Player of the Year. I'm like, yeah, I 692 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 4: get it, Like I understand and so and by the way, 693 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: I'll be out of Cam Hayward's Celebrity Softball Classic, sorry, 694 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 4: Bengals fans. I'll try to find a way to represent 695 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 4: Cincinnati while I'm out there. 696 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: But but uh, yeah. 697 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 4: That's a good that's still a good team. I mean, 698 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 4: all these teams are good. There's no slouches in this 699 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: division at all. 700 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: All right, final thing for Adam Rank from the NFL Network, 701 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: and I appreciate your time. You refer to Cincinnati as 702 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: the San Diego of the Midwest. Yeah, you often do. 703 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: How did you fall in love with Cincinnati? 704 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: This is crazy. 705 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 4: So Renee Paquette, she's a she's an announcer for all 706 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 4: all of EAT wrestling. 707 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he does some podcasting for the Bengals. 708 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and. 709 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 4: Her her husband is John Moxley, who's a Cincinnati person. 710 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: And so I was taking a trip to Cincinnati, and 711 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 4: she had just randomly tweeted out like, hey, I keep 712 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 4: hearing that Cincinnati is the San Diego of the Midwest, 713 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 4: and I'm like, you know what, I'll be the judge 714 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 4: of this. 715 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: I will let you know. 716 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: I'm going there in a couple of weeks. And as 717 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 4: somebody who's been to San Diego numerous times. By the way, 718 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,239 Speaker 4: when I was in college, my girlfriend went to San 719 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 4: Diego State, so I'm very familiar with San Diego. 720 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: Love love san Diego. 721 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 4: So I go to Cincinnati and you come over and 722 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 4: you fly into Kentucky, which is weird to me, like 723 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 4: we're flying into another state, like what is happening? But 724 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 4: it's beautiful, Like it's so beautiful when you fly in, 725 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 4: like what a great spot. And then you see Kentucky 726 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 4: and Kentucky looks pretty cool. And then you get into 727 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: Cincinnati and I was staying right downtown and I had 728 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 4: an opportunity to walk up to Ryan Geist and all 729 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 4: that stuff and went over to the Sam Adams Place 730 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 4: and just kind of like. 731 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: Around what is at Finlaye Market. I went there the 732 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: more the morning I was going to pay for a stadium. 733 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: I was at finlay Market and I saw a bunch 734 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 4: of people lined up at a at a bakery and 735 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know what they're selling, but there's 736 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 4: a huge line, so it must be good. 737 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. 738 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, I was like and I told Renee, I said, 739 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 4: you know that I got I get it. I get 740 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 4: I see I see exactly what people are talking about. Now, 741 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 4: I will say San Diego has better beaches. Uh, this 742 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 4: the County of San Diego, San Diego. I don't think 743 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 4: the city actually has a beach, but that's nitpicking. 744 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: The beaches are from other beaches. You got to give 745 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: that up. 746 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 4: But I think everything else, like the vibe, the people, 747 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 4: The people are great, and the ballpark, the baseball stadium 748 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 4: is incredible, and I love the fact that you walk 749 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: into that area you know that surrounds it. And I 750 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 4: remember walking up to some like I'm like, you guys 751 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 4: are just like you can drink a you're out in 752 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 4: public like an adult, Like oh okay, like this is 753 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 4: this is pretty nice. And I remember too, like ordering 754 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 4: something and she's like that'll be five dollars please, and 755 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm sorry what. 756 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: And I'm like, is this is spat? Like is this 757 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 2: She's like no, this is just the price of it. 758 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god. 759 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 4: I have a good friend who lives out there, and 760 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 4: so I'm like, I get it now. We always used 761 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 4: to make fun of him, like Cincinnati, like the magazine 762 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 4: is always repend than Natty, And I'm like, oh no, 763 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 4: I get it, Like I totally get it now. I 764 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 4: see why he's doing it. It's a great place and 765 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 4: I thoroughly enjoy it and my Angels. I'm an Angels fan. 766 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 4: They played in Cincinnati this year, if I'm not mistaken, 767 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 4: and I was remiss that I wasn't able to make 768 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 4: that journey. But you know, maybe in a couple of 769 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 4: years when the Angels come back, I definitely want to 770 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 4: go back out there. 771 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: You're welcome back anytime, and I appreciate you coming on 772 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: this podcast at this time of the year every year. 773 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time. Keep up the 774 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 3: great work. 775 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much. Appreciate it and look forward 776 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 4: to doing it again next year. 777 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of the 778 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast, brought to you by pay Core, Proud 779 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: to be the Bengals official HR software provider, by Alta 780 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: Fiber future Proof fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, 781 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: business and community to a new level, and by kettering 782 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health 783 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 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