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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the

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Speaker 1: live action Sebasti trend from the Little Mermaid Live action remake.

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Speaker 1: I'm jack that superproducer Becca Rama. Hello, Happy Monday, unto

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Speaker 1: you as well. So people think they have gotten the

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Speaker 1: first glimpse of Sebastian from The Little Mermaid. This is

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Speaker 1: a danger we saw coming a mile away. This comes

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Speaker 1: from a perspective of somebody who did not think the

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Speaker 1: live action Lion King was good. Yeah, agreed. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was bad because the animal actors are not emoting

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Speaker 1: in these dang things, and it's such a weird concept

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Speaker 1: to me because it's like you're basically almost watching like

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Speaker 1: a live stream of some animals at the zoo, but

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Speaker 1: like Beyonce's their voice, yeah, and their lips are moving

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Speaker 1: and it's uncomfortable, right, But I mean it definitely. It's

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Speaker 1: one of the top ten highest grossing movies of all times.

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Speaker 1: So I think it was like a thing that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people went and saw, assuming a lot of

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Speaker 1: people were like, there's something missing here, but not enough

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Speaker 1: that Disney would have gotten that message because it again

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Speaker 1: made all the money. They made so much money, They

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Speaker 1: made so many more live action movies, right, so they're

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Speaker 1: still coming fast and furious. So this Little Mermaid one,

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Speaker 1: we had the question what will they do with the animals?

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Speaker 1: Like in the last trailer that dropped about a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, we saw the pufferfish friend whose name

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Speaker 1: I am drawing a blank Flounder. I think flounder is

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Speaker 1: not a puffer fish. I think flounder is one of

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Speaker 1: the other fish friends. But we see her, and we

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Speaker 1: see Ariel interacting with a pufferfish, and the pufferfish just

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Speaker 1: has like the cold dead eyes of a fish, you know,

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Speaker 1: like fish just don't have the most expressive Oh it

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Speaker 1: is flounders of the pufferfish. I'm I'm a fool, but

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Speaker 1: just like I don't know, they didn't read like, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a motion behind those eyes that

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Speaker 1: we can all get behind. The real question was around Sebastian.

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Speaker 1: So many questions with Sebastian, so many questions with Sebastian

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Speaker 1: crabs are just not animals that I think in any

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Speaker 1: photorealistic sense, you ever get a vibe other than this

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Speaker 1: is a alien species that wants to devour me um.

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Speaker 1: They're so creepy looking like real crabs. If it's not

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Speaker 1: like mister crabs Crabby Patty Ospoin film, mister crabs, I

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Speaker 1: I they're like the spiders of the sea that give

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Speaker 1: me the like the hebgbs, you know. Yeah, so we're

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Speaker 1: getting a we're getting a correction from super producer Victor

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Speaker 1: coming in saying that flounder So this is what flounder

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Speaker 1: of my brain was this yellow and blue fish, which

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. He's like a striped yellow and

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Speaker 1: blue little guy. Um, he is neither flounder or is

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Speaker 1: he pufferfish? I don't believe. Yeah, so I think there's

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Speaker 1: a pufferfish character or moment in the animated film, but

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Speaker 1: I can't be trusted because I haven't seen it a

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Speaker 1: long time. But anyways, the crab looks pretty much like

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Speaker 1: a crab in this. And again this is not from

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Speaker 1: a trailer. This is from the box of a puzzle

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Speaker 1: that appears to be pulling characters from how they look

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Speaker 1: in the film. So we don't have like official like

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Speaker 1: a cell from the film, but we do have like

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Speaker 1: them at least representing Sebastian in what looks like a

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Speaker 1: Just to be further correct that Jack Sebastian is a lobster,

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Speaker 1: not not technically a crab. This is a debate that Brian,

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Speaker 1: you're getting false information. Sebastian is a crab, I think technically,

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Speaker 1: But then a lot of people have claimed because of

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Speaker 1: the way he was designed in the original movie, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he looks like a lobster. But also I just pulled

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Speaker 1: up this image. I forgot how jarring that Sebastian looks

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Speaker 1: in the original I'm like, this is a terrifying Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got human teeth, he dun got little eyes like I

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Speaker 1: would argue that SpongeBob did a better job. Yes, for sure.

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Speaker 1: For sure SpongeBob did a better job. And if they

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Speaker 1: made a live action SpongeBob movie where all the characters

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Speaker 1: were what they looked like in an aquarium, it probably

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Speaker 1: would not have worked very well. No. Yeah, so you

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Speaker 1: can go look up the image yourself. It just looks

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Speaker 1: looks like a crab. It does, and that is going

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Speaker 1: to be I have seen nature documentaries that are photographed

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Speaker 1: technical challenge of just like getting their lips to move

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Speaker 1: well whatever, you'll make good with the fact that we

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Speaker 1: aren't going to make the faces emote, because we could

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Speaker 1: have just done some like old school nineties, you know,

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Speaker 1: animal movies, because I remember, I feel like in the

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Speaker 1: nineties there were so many live action animal movies and

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Speaker 1: you just like dubbed over their voices, like you didn't

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Speaker 1: make their mouths moves. Yeah, you just had live action

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Speaker 1: you got to take a lesson from Narnia. I feel

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Speaker 1: like a lion and Narnia. He really he had that,

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Speaker 1: he had feelings. Yeah, he had feelings. Yeah. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's happened to performances these days. Maybe they're

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Speaker 1: just like in the same way that acting has become

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Speaker 1: more naturalistic over time, Like in the forties it was

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Speaker 1: like this is how you act, and this is how

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Speaker 1: they're trying to do that with animals. They're like, actually,

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Speaker 1: we've hung out with some lions and this is actually

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Speaker 1: more this is closer to But anyways, yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: really good point. Like Homeward Bound and all those. I

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Speaker 1: guess it was because they were dogs, and dogs have

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Speaker 1: like faces that were specifically evolved to pull it human

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Speaker 1: heart strings. That again, this is why like Lion King

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Speaker 1: feels like missed opportunity. You could have worked with the

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Speaker 1: faces of these beautiful animals. Crabs. I'm I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: have paint yourself into a corner a corner. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: are going to be a hold puppet. This is going

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Speaker 1: to be a tough one to pull up. Anyways, we're

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Speaker 1: going to release a three hour cut of this training

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Speaker 1: episode where we talk about nothing but this, but we

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Speaker 1: should move on. Dozens of British employers are sticking to

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Speaker 1: a four day work week, and in fact so the

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Speaker 1: number is of sixty one British companies that participated in

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Speaker 1: a pilot program testing out four day work week, fifty

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Speaker 1: This is being reported in NBC News, New York Times,

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Speaker 1: in European countries the four day work week, and that

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Speaker 1: a lot of countries were seeing if this is beneficial.

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Speaker 1: I feel like when I worked at other agencies during

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Speaker 1: very happy. Yeah, it feels I mean, European jobs seem

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Speaker 1: to have always been like a little bit more flexible

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Speaker 1: But it does feel like even even in American cultures,

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Speaker 1: like I feel like people are ready for this, and

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Speaker 1: a nice win for human beings around the world, not

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Speaker 1: just in Europe absolutely, but I think, like you mentioned off,

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Speaker 1: Mike Jack, the note to be made is also that companies,

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Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of like almost teaching, where people think, oh, educators,

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Speaker 1: amazing that it came to this to finally get his

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Speaker 1: to Adams, also his literary agent. Which but he's just

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Speaker 1: a great example of like why cancel culture isn't real,

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Speaker 1: Like if you look at what this piece of shit

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Speaker 1: so many chances. Yeah. He had recently tweeted about how

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Speaker 1: Highland shooting and every fentinel overdosed death among the younger

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Speaker 1: When a young male, let's say fourteen to nineteen, is

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Speaker 1: a danger to himself and others, society gives the supporting

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Speaker 1: a wild sentence, A wild way to put that instead

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Speaker 1: as to why fentnel is even being distributed in our country. Yes,

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Speaker 1: just a has been saying racist shit forever. Like back

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Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, he defended a Republican mean portraying President

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Speaker 1: to defend himself and was immediately caught. It's just like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: how many how many chances I guess, you know, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see how long he stays actually canceled. But all right,

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Speaker 1: we're back. And I always like to highlight athletic feats

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Speaker 1: that you know, Becca, I know you were kind of

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Speaker 1: up on your chumping so ready to talk about this.

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Speaker 1: You have no idea I actually brought the story. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to go on all right, well, that's terrifying. What a

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Speaker 1: resounding endorsement from that reviewer, Becca. Such a pleasure of

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Speaker 1: having you. Where can people find you? Follow you all

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Speaker 1: that good stuff. You can find me and follow me

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Speaker 1: the show. Until then, be kind to each other, be

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