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Speaker 2: We did it. We made it to a Friday.

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Speaker 3: It's a meat Friday at that And in honor of

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Speaker 3: Marvin who loves ham smoked, honey glazed ham, today potato

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Speaker 3: lotkas heck yeah, let's go potato pancakes that I think

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Speaker 3: are big during Hanukkah?

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Speaker 2: Is that right to us?

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Speaker 4: That is right? With a little apple sauce or sour cream?

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Speaker 2: Love it alrighty?

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Speaker 3: And PAULI gets New England clam shout ouh, oh wow,

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Speaker 3: thank you? Who has it better than we do? No,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk to our good buddy Ross Tucker. He was

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Speaker 3: on the radio call last night as the Lions with

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Speaker 3: a big win over the Cowboys, and they're both still

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Speaker 3: fascinating stories. When you think about where the Cowboys are

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Speaker 3: and maybe they play spoiler, I think their chances of

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Speaker 3: making the playoffs are now reduced to seven percent according

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Speaker 3: to the NFL. The Lions playoff probability increased to fifty

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Speaker 3: four percent. But let's handicap the Cowboys now because they

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Speaker 3: have to win out and even if they went out,

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Speaker 3: that's probably not going to be enough. They got the vikings,

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Speaker 3: they got the Chargers Commanders and they got the Giants.

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Speaker 3: They can win all of those games, especially if you're

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Speaker 3: hosting the Chargers at the Giants, you got the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: So it's not exactly Murderer's row here, but you got

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Speaker 3: to win out and even ten wins probably not going

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Speaker 3: to be enough. And you wonder if that tie that

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Speaker 3: they had is going to come back to haunt them.

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Speaker 2: Not great and they could have lost that game.

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Speaker 3: But if you win that game, now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: your probability goes up a little bit more than seven percent.

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Speaker 3: But we were praising that defense. Defense stopped the run,

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Speaker 3: but it didn't stop the pass as Jared Goff threw

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Speaker 3: for over three hundred yards. Aman Ross Saint Brown playing

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Speaker 3: was big. I thought they were going to sit him

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Speaker 3: and then give him ten days to rest, but he

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Speaker 3: came back and that was one of those emotional boosts

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Speaker 3: having him out there. Jamier Gibbs once again, all he

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Speaker 3: does is score touchdowns and that's a big, big win

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Speaker 3: for the Lions in a very competitive and NFC North

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Speaker 3: Seaton will do the honors of the poll question from

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Speaker 3: the first hour of the program, what are you thinking? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Paul sent in a bunch of them here. We can

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Speaker 3: start with a pretty easy one. Who do you pick

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Speaker 3: to win the NFC today? Okay, I keep shifting a

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Speaker 3: little bit. Yeah, I don't know if there's I don't

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Speaker 3: think there's a great team in the NFL. But there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of traffic with the NFC because I can

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Speaker 3: look at Seattle in the Rams and the Niners. There's

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Speaker 3: no better division than that. The Chiefs are still dangerous. Chargers.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not sure about certainly with the injury with

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Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, and then you got Denver, which is a

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Speaker 3: great defensive team, but you know you're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: outscore somebody once you get to the postseason. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're trying to handicap this. I just don't know if

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Speaker 3: there's a great team right now, you know. I mean

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Speaker 3: I still have the Lions and the Chiefs, and both

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Speaker 3: of those may not make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: When you look at the NFC West, it's interesting because

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of good records there, but not a

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Speaker 5: lot of teams that scare you. You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the Rams are great, but I don't know

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Speaker 5: that the forty nine Ers make me nervous. I don't

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Speaker 5: really know that the Seahawks make me nervous either.

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Speaker 3: The Seahawks would make me nervous if you're playing in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: The Rams would make me nervous no matter where they go.

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Speaker 3: I do think they're a really good team. Trying to

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Speaker 3: think of anybody else. Are you sold on the Bears?

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Speaker 3: Are you sold on the Packers? Are you sold on

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Speaker 6: Yes, Pauling, it does feel like the Seahawks are playing great,

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Speaker 6: but the Sam Darnald I believe in them feel from

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Speaker 6: last year. And it's not fair because you know him,

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Speaker 6: first team all Sam Darnald, but nationally he's playing great.

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Speaker 6: They're playing great, but it's like, well he's great in

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Speaker 6: the regular season, what will he be in January? And

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Speaker 6: that kind of just overlaps their whole team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Bills, I don't think they're great.

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Speaker 3: I think they can play really well. Buccaneers, Seahawks, Jags, Colts.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody believes in either one of those

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Speaker 3: two teams. There's some bad games coming up this weekend,

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Speaker 3: some bad matchups because you got but you know, the

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Speaker 3: Colts and Jags is interesting, but then you got Dolphins, Jets, Titans, Browns, Commanders, Vikings,

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Speaker 2: Will be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what else Rams, Cardinals, Bears, Packers is good

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Speaker 3: and Texans and the Chiefs. That's good as well. Something

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Speaker 3: interesting happened yesterday. Now I thought the Lions were going

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Speaker 3: were getting three, and I thought okay, And then it

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Speaker 3: what changed here? And I don't know if that's you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm on Ross, Saint Brown coming back, or when somebody

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Speaker 3: got word of that, but all of a sudden it

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Speaker 3: a gambler or a reform gambler, then you're always looking

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Speaker 3: for those kind of last minute changes in the point spread.

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Speaker 3: But Dallas had their opportunities, but that defense was not

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Speaker 3: what we thought they were going to be. You know,

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Speaker 3: once again, you can stop the run, but if you

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Speaker 3: can at least mitigate the damage that the offense is

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Speaker 3: going to do passing wise. And Jared Goff throws for

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Speaker 2: But the offense is there. We know that.

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Speaker 3: It's just the defense has to be. You have to

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Speaker 3: be more than adequate now. And it cost them last

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Speaker 3: night because if they win last night, you may eliminate

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Speaker 3: the Lions and you're going to increase your chances of

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Speaker 3: still staying in the playoff picture.

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Speaker 2: What other poll questions do we have?

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Speaker 5: Let's see, would you rather your team have the best

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Speaker 5: wide receiver in the league or the best kicker?

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Speaker 3: Okay, PAULI wrote this because you have the Cowboys situation

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Speaker 3: and you have the Brandon Aubrey who pretty much I'm

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Speaker 3: guessing anything inside seventy is in his range. I mean

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Speaker 3: it's he's a restricted free agent. He's making a million dollars.

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Speaker 3: far as Cedee Lamb or George Pickens, well, I'd rather

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Speaker 3: have a great kicker.

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Speaker 4: I don't want.

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Speaker 3: I don't want George Pickens now Ceedee Lamb. I would

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Speaker 3: take Ceede Lamb. George Pickens. I need to see another year.

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Speaker 3: I do, and you know he's great He's been great,

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Speaker 3: that made me just a little bit nervous. Nervous there,

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Speaker 3: I probably franchised him. I don't know if I want

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Speaker 3: to be giving him thirty million dollars a year, but

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Speaker 3: I would take I mean, Brandon Aubrey, there's nobody like

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Speaker 3: him in the NFL. There are receivers like George Pickens

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. Brandon Aubrey to me is, you know

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Speaker 3: that's money from seventy yards in and plus you get

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Speaker 3: these new kickoffs. Now, if you get the ball through

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Speaker 3: the thirty five, you get two first downs. Aubrey's in

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Speaker 3: field goal range, Yes, Paulie.

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Speaker 6: Brandon Aubrey's becoming automatic from plus sixty plus. There have

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Speaker 6: been fifteen field goals from sixty three or more in

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Speaker 6: NFL history, the entire history of the league. He's got

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Speaker 6: three of them. And the one he had last night

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Speaker 6: had another five yards behind it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And he's had that happen a couple times too, actually,

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Speaker 5: where he's he's put one through and they're like, dang man,

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Speaker 5: that was a long ass field goal and it had

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Speaker 6: Easy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pauli in the past.

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Speaker 6: Forty years before like Brandon Uberty joined the league, kickers

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Speaker 6: were six for eighty two from sixty plus. He's six

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Speaker 6: for nine from sixty plus in his career.

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Speaker 2: That's silly.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys are allowing just under thirty points per game,

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Speaker 3: so they're on pace still. You know how bad they

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Speaker 3: were at the beginning of the year. They're going to

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Speaker 3: probably get to where the Cowboys were the first year

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Speaker 3: they came into the league nineteen sixty, when they allowed

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Speaker 3: just over or just under thirty one points per game.

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Speaker 1: Who cow stand of the day?

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Speaker 7: Stand of the day?

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Speaker 1: Stand outa day, scant outa day.

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Speaker 6: This is the stule of the day.

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Speaker 3: Yachi by Panini America. And the Lions have been really

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Speaker 3: good at blowing people out since the start of last season.

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Speaker 3: They have fourteen wins by double digits. That's the most

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. All right, we'll get to phone calls.

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Speaker 3: Tyler sitting by, take your calls there. We got college

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Speaker 3: football coming up this weekend. Penn State might be zeroing

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Speaker 3: in on their head coach Matt Campbell at Iowa State.

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Speaker 3: Maybe this was the plan all along. Maybe this is

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Speaker 3: what they were talking about. And I mentioned this yesterday

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Speaker 3: that they have an interim head coach, and I was

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Speaker 3: told last night they told the interim head coach, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you're free to around, move about the cabin. Penn State

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Speaker 3: has now apparently authorized Terry Smith to interview for other jobs,

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Speaker 3: so he's going to be in the mix for some

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Speaker 3: of the backfill openings, and that means Michigan Penn State

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Speaker 3: does not have a head coach. If he's going to

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Speaker 3: be looking at another job, and maybe it's Matt Campbell,

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Speaker 3: it certainly sounds like they have put all their efforts

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Speaker 3: for other jobs, big jobs in college football and also

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Speaker 3: the NFL. He's an Ohio guy. He's a massline Ohio guy,

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Speaker 3: big football powerhouse up there towards Cleveland, and maybe, just

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Speaker 3: maybe Penn State will find their head coach.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Tom, nothing makes you feel more loved and wanted then,

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Speaker 8: you know, feel free to look at the other opportunities.

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Speaker 6: That's good with us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this guy's probably Terry Smith going, hey, I'm

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Speaker 3: the head coach at Penn State. Not so fast, you know,

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Speaker 3: not so fast. You're free to talk to anybody you

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Speaker 3: want to. Uhuh.

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Speaker 2: We actually encourage you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that leads me to believe that Penn State is

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Speaker 3: going to zero win and get Matt Campbell because I

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Speaker 3: if not, I would not be telling the interim head coach. Okay,

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Speaker 3: feel free go flirt with whoever you want to. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's see Kevin in Austin. Hi, Kevin, lead us off.

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Speaker 3: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Hey, DP, I've got three things for you. One, I

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Speaker 9: want to say thanks for the calendar. I just got

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Speaker 9: it in the mail, signed by all five you guys

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Speaker 9: some really horrifying months with Scritzy. Can't hang Thatt in

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Speaker 9: the office. Then I want to go over my Cowboys

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Speaker 9: just real quick. You know, you see what a number

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Speaker 9: one receiver looks like with Monros Saint Brown on one

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Speaker 9: leg versus what George Merton Hanks pickings with a ski

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Speaker 9: mask last night and his effort. And then lastly, we

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Speaker 9: are coming up on a week out from Honka, and

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Speaker 9: I want to know if Todd is ready with the

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Speaker 9: sports names?

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Speaker 8: Oh Todd Monica sports names. Yeah, I think we did

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Speaker 8: that a while back. We can revisit that and say

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Speaker 8: if we can come up with some new ones.

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Speaker 3: Buddha in San Francisco, Good morning, Buddha, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 10: No, no, buddy, every day the Super Bowl boys, let's go,

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Speaker 10: Dan looking shark there from the main Cave. And Dan,

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Speaker 10: if I'm Jerry Jones, I'm paying Brandon Aubrey right now,

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Speaker 10: I'm sure he'll mess it up somehow and sign Harrison

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Speaker 2: Smalls man, thank you buddha. Uh.

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Speaker 3: There is an oh woe is me? A couple of

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Speaker 3: Detroit now eight and five, Dallas is six and six

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Speaker 3: I totally agree. I'm going back to twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: god's sake, He's got the Notre Dame job. You have

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Speaker 6: Blah blah blah. All you got to do is recruit

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he had gotten to the point and I

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Speaker 13: Another nominee for worst Week, Jackson Dart. Yeah, did not

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Speaker 3: Well, we've had some people on the show this week

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Speaker 13: This feels like a Tiki Barber or Michael Strahan move

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Speaker 3: are you thinking in a situation like that? Instead of boy,

437
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Speaker 3: he would like to have that one back. I haven't

438
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Speaker 3: met a quarterback who hasn't had a pass where it

439
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Speaker 3: got picked off, where he didn't want to have that back.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy with and I stepped into it.

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Speaker 6: It's nice, spiral, tight, felt.

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Speaker 7: Good leave in my hand. I don't know what happened

443
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Speaker 7: after that.

444
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Speaker 6: What if Russell Wilson gets in the studio this weekend

445
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Speaker 6: and it's like a body switching movie and he just

446
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Speaker 6: starts lighting people up and he's mean spirited like all

447
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 6: the last ten years of frustration comedy, Like that guy sucks,

448
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 6: he shouldn't be in the league. Cut him.

449
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Speaker 2: Well.

450
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Speaker 3: The problem is that all the guys who didn't like

451
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Speaker 3: him in Seattle don't play anymore, so he can't be

452
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Speaker 3: ripping those guys.

453
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Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, sometimes I.

454
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Speaker 5: Think that we, like the public, go a little crazy.

455
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Speaker 7: Over like, well, this guy's got to have opinions, so

456
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Speaker 7: we better what.

457
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Speaker 5: I don't see JJ Watt throwing haymakers every Sunday where he's.

458
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Speaker 7: Like this guy sucks, that guy's great, Like he just

459
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Speaker 7: kind of breaks down the game and then that's it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: I don't see any reason why Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson

462
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Speaker 5: is a good looking guy. He looks good on camera.

463
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Speaker 5: He can articulate a thought really really well. You know,

464
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Speaker 5: he could break down games. I don't know why he wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Do very well.

466
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Speaker 3: I gotta see how he breaks down a game. I mean,

467
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Speaker 3: we're still slicing and dicing Tom Brady because he seemed

468
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Speaker 3: a little robotic when he first started there and kind

469
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Speaker 3: of relaxing a little bit and talking to the boys,

470
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Speaker 3: you know, talking to your friends, being analytical but not

471
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Speaker 3: being critical. And I think there's a fine line in

472
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Speaker 3: doing that, and it's hard to do, uh guest hut.

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Speaker 8: The scene's point, Matt Ryan is in one they say,

474
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Speaker 8: whoa shots fired?

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Speaker 1: You at mets it?

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Speaker 7: Ye, hear what he just said. He just tore them

477
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Speaker 7: into one.

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Speaker 3: But I would always push Rodney Harrison and Tony Dungee

479
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Speaker 3: to what do you say, Like, don't say something that's obvious,

480
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Speaker 3: tell me something that we don't know, we didn't see,

481
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Speaker 3: and it doesn't mean like if somebody quits on a route,

482
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Speaker 3: then you say they quit on a route, like I

483
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Speaker 3: would have been critical of uh, you know last night

484
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Speaker 3: with uh George Pickens, the pat Pickens. Yeah, I would

485
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Speaker 3: have been critical of some of the past routes that

486
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Speaker 3: he was running and they were I mean, you're you

487
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Speaker 3: have to point those things out just to be fair

488
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Speaker 3: to the situation and to the audience.

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Speaker 2: You have pauling.

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Speaker 6: One thing that disappoints me. You go back to twenty seventeen.

491
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Speaker 6: Remember Fox Sports hired j Cutler, the former quarterback, to

492
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Speaker 6: be an analyst. He was gonna be like their third

493
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Speaker 6: team booth with Kevin Burkhart, and right before the season starts,

494
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Speaker 6: there's an injury and he goes to play for the

495
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Speaker 6: Mammi Dolphins. He never became a broadcaster. I really wanted

496
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Speaker 6: to see a guy like him because I had no

497
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Speaker 6: idea what we're gonna get with Jake Culer. I still don't.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know they had that reality show, Oh yeah,

499
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Speaker 3: his wife, and he was interesting because he just didn't care.

500
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Speaker 3: You know, you're thinking, what did you see in him

501
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Speaker 3: in the first place? But he'd be like, all right,

502
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Speaker 3: well you gonna go hunting. I don't know whatever. I

503
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Speaker 3: don't think you can have that approach to doing you know,

504
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Speaker 3: NFL studio shows or game I don't know, what do

505
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Speaker 3: you think, I don't know whatever.

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Speaker 4: I would have ran it there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know why they always wanted would

508
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Speaker 2: you do.

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Speaker 6: Third one. What do you think, Jake, I don't know.

510
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Speaker 6: They're gonna have to play.

511
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Speaker 7: We'll figure it out afterwards.

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Speaker 2: May run, they may I don't know. Whatever. Uh be great.

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Speaker 6: I wish I'm gold a thought.

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Speaker 3: I hope Russ has a fun weekend. I hope that

515
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Speaker 3: he does it and enjoys it and is able to

516
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Speaker 3: kind of give people an.

517
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Speaker 2: Appreciation for what he sees as a quarterback. I hope.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if you can jump out of

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Speaker 3: your uniform into a suit and then you sit there

521
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Speaker 3: and it's a sterile environment. As I tell the analyst

522
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Speaker 3: that I work with, you have to manufacture your excitement

523
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Speaker 3: when you're in the studio. When you're out of the game,

524
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Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about it. You're into it,

525
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Speaker 3: you're ready to hit somebody. But when you're in that

526
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Speaker 3: studio and it's very antiseptic, and I think that'll be

527
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Speaker 3: that's the challenge. Sometimes you try to get guys fired

528
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Speaker 3: up a little bit and it just doesn't come naturally.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Marvin, is.

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Speaker 13: It going to be tough for him for him to

531
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Speaker 13: make criticize somebody because he's a current player.

532
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would imagine. I mean, I don't know what

533
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Speaker 3: you're going to get out of him. It does give

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Speaker 3: CBS a little bit of news, and they can, you know,

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Speaker 3: make a bigger deal out of this and put him

536
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Speaker 3: in studio. But I don't I don't know what kind

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Speaker 3: of position they're going to put Russ in because I

538
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Speaker 3: don't know how many times do you hear Like Bill

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Speaker 3: Cower was very critical of Lane Kiffin. Yeah, he and

540
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Speaker 3: said that on the CBS show. They said it on

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Speaker 3: our show as well. I don't know how many of

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Speaker 3: those moments that you get. And this is a college

543
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Speaker 3: coach that he was very critical of, not an NFL coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you pick your moments here, and it's different.

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Speaker 3: CBS is not a hot take place. You know, when

547
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Speaker 3: Rex Ryan goes on the Mothership, his job is to

548
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Speaker 3: get you to talk about what he talked about, so

549
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Speaker 3: it goes viral, get clicks. That's Ryan Clark. He wants

550
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Speaker 3: you to you know, hey, did you hear what he said?

551
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Speaker 3: That's that's what their job is. Hendrick Perkins, that's his job.

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Speaker 3: I want you to I want you to be talking

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Speaker 3: about what I'm talking about. I don't know if CBS

554
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Speaker 3: goes into it and saying Hey, JB or Bill Cower,

555
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: come on, you got to say something here, or Matt Ryan.

556
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Speaker 3: I mean, you hope they do, but you know you

557
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Speaker 3: you're hiring them because of their personality. I don't think

558
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Speaker 3: you can change somebody's personality. But I hope Russ gets

559
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Speaker 3: an opportunity to shine a little bit, because it certainly

560
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Speaker 3: feels like that's that's his next spot.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Tom, does Russ get a private office on a

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Speaker 8: separate floor from the rest of the CBA's guys that

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Speaker 8: have been there for curious.

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Speaker 4: Appointed Bronco?

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Speaker 2: Would you say that to his face?

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Speaker 8: If he probably wouldn't, I would. I would say it

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Speaker 8: in jes so tongue in cheeks. I wouldn't be upset.

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Speaker 2: He would be called in. If he called in right

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Speaker 2: now and you answered the phone, you feel.

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Speaker 4: The pressure now.

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Speaker 8: I would have to say, are you get in your

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Speaker 8: own office this week out at CBS like you did

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Speaker 8: with the Broncos away from the rest of the tent.

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Speaker 2: You would do that?

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Speaker 1: I think I would have.

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Speaker 8: To, because I gotta put my money where my mouth.

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Speaker 6: Is, all right, I gotta put my money where my

578
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Speaker 6: mouth is.

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Speaker 7: Exactly the same energy it takes that ross setting my money,

580
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Speaker 7: just get in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: How about we take a break, we will talk to

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Speaker 3: Ross Tucker. He was on the call last night for

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Speaker 3: Westwood One. We're back after this on the Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 3: He hosts the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Follow him on

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Speaker 3: social media at Ross Tucker NFL. He was in the

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Speaker 3: booth last night Westwood One with the Cowboys and the Lions,

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Speaker 3: and then next Sunday, Week fifteen, he's got the Jets

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Speaker 3: and the Jags. Ross, good to see you again. It

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Speaker 3: feels like the state of Pennsylvania is the epicenter of

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Speaker 3: football right now, because you got Steelers, you got the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: and then you got penn State. So where do you

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Speaker 3: want to start?

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Speaker 11: Right in the middle of all of it, Dan, I

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Speaker 11: live in central Pennsylvania, which is interesting because growing up

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Speaker 11: closer to Philly in Reading, it's one hundred percent Eagles fans.

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Speaker 11: You go an hour west and now it's probably fifty

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Speaker 11: to fifty between Eagles and Steelers. You know what I

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Speaker 11: would say, I'll make a comparison, actually, Dan, between Mike

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Speaker 11: Tomlin and James Franklin, because I'm hearing the same thing

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Speaker 11: from Steelers fans that I was hearing from some of

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Speaker 11: the Penn State fans. Now it's different, but there's a

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Speaker 11: lot of crossover between those two fan bases. And you know, Dan,

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Speaker 11: they just feel ready to move on, and they recognize

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Speaker 11: that Franklin was a good coach. They recognized that Mike

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Speaker 11: Tomlin is a good coach. I think in both instances,

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Speaker 11: they felt like it was time to move on. Now

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Speaker 11: we'll see how that works out for Penn State. Obviously

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Speaker 11: the coaching search has not gone as they wanted it to.

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Speaker 11: But there were a lot of people that wanted James

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Speaker 11: Franklin fired. They were sick of losing Ohio State, they

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Speaker 11: were sick of not winning quote unquote the big one,

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Speaker 11: and they were.

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Speaker 4: Ready to move on. The same thing with Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 11: You know, Steelers fans have a really high standard, Dan,

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Speaker 11: really high standard, and they should. You the seventies and

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Speaker 11: even when Roethlisberger was there, they won a couple of

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Speaker 11: Super Bowls. They haven't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 11: and I think what frustrates them is it feels like

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Speaker 11: there's a commitment to just above mediocrity, there's a commitment

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Speaker 11: to being good enough, and they're sick of that. I mean,

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Speaker 11: you talk to Steelers fan, it's kind of wild that

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Speaker 11: they'd rather the team go three to fourteen and get

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Speaker 11: a high draft pick and finally try to fix the

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Speaker 11: quarterback position. I don't think they realize how hard that

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Speaker 11: is to do. But that's the mindset right now. A

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Speaker 11: lot of Steelers fans feel the same way a lot

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Speaker 11: of Penn State fans did, in which they're ready to

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Speaker 11: move on. What's unique about that is, just like Franklin,

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Speaker 11: if the Steelers part ways with Tomlin, he'll have three

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Speaker 11: or four offers this offseason.

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Speaker 4: He'll have three or.

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Speaker 11: Four NFL offers of teams that would be thrilled to

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Speaker 11: get Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, commitment to mediocrity or just above mediocrey not the

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00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: same as commitment to excellence. That you know the Raiders

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00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: coined back with Al Davis there. All right, you were

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Speaker 3: on the call with the game last night. What were

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Speaker 3: you expecting? I was expecting a lot of points, which

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Speaker 3: we got. I really thought the Cowboys were gonna win.

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Speaker 3: I mean I talked about this on the even Money

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Speaker 3: betting podcast, and honestly, everyone I spoke to Dan, I mean,

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Speaker 3: even Lions fans, even people that cover the Lions, everyone

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Speaker 3: was surprised that the Lions were favored, and not just favored.

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Speaker 3: They were favored by three, and then yesterday during the game,

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Speaker 3: you know, before the game, it went up to three

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Speaker 3: and a half, which is, you know, is a huge difference.

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Speaker 3: That made no sense to me from a betting perspective.

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Speaker 3: I thought taking the Cowboys three and a half made

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Speaker 3: all the sense in the world because the Lions' weaknesses

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Speaker 3: right now, or at least perceived weaknesses going into it,

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Speaker 3: matched up with the cowboys strengths.

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Speaker 11: The interior of the offensive line for the Lions has

657
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Speaker 11: not been good and they're banged up. The Cowboys might

658
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Speaker 11: have the best d tackle rotation in the league right now.

659
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Speaker 11: The secondary they put Terry and Arnold their best corner

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Speaker 11: on ir they have no Kirby Joseph. You're going up

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Speaker 11: against George Pickens and Seedee Lamb. I think most people

662
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Speaker 11: thought the way these two teams were trending that it'd

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Speaker 11: be a high scoring game, but that the Cowboys would

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Speaker 11: probably win out right thirty four to thirty one. If

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Speaker 11: they lost, it would be by a field goaler. So

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Speaker 11: I will also say this, I did not think Iman

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Speaker 11: Ross Saint Brown was gonna play. He didn't practice at

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Speaker 11: all all week. If they didn't play him last night,

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Speaker 11: he'd have ten days before the next game. They still

670
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Speaker 11: had four more games to go. He made a really,

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Speaker 11: really significant difference last night.

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Speaker 3: I know everybody's all in on George Pickens. I need

673
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Speaker 3: to see a little bit more. I know he can

674
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Speaker 3: be unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I know you know.

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Speaker 3: We were ready to christen him the best receiver the

677
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Speaker 3: Cowboys had a couple of weeks ago or last week,

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Speaker 3: but there it felt like there were a couple of

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Speaker 3: moments where George Pickens didn't do what he was supposed

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Speaker 3: to do. He still makes spectacular plays, but I just

681
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Speaker 3: can't be all in on him. And they're going to

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Speaker 3: sign him up to a thirty million dollar contract. I'm guessing,

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Speaker 3: what do you think?

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Speaker 11: Well that that is the I guess thirty million dollar question,

685
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Speaker 11: because you know, whatever you want to say about him,

686
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Speaker 11: he's incredibly talented.

687
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Speaker 4: He's a top five guy in terms of talent.

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Speaker 11: He already had going into last night, the most yards

689
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Speaker 11: by any Cowboys receiver ever in the first twelve games

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Speaker 11: of the season, which is just incredible when you think

691
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Speaker 11: about the receivers that they've had. But you know, pick

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Speaker 11: your word, Dan a erratic behavior, enigmatic. He is a

693
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Speaker 11: very unique person. And when you see the season he's

694
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Speaker 11: having and the plays he's making for the Steelers who

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Speaker 11: drafted him to move on from him with as long

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Speaker 11: as they held on to Antonio Brown, as long as

697
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Speaker 11: they held on to other guys Plexico Buris and san

698
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Speaker 11: Antonio Holmes. That says a lot. I would be scared

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Speaker 11: to death to give him a long term deal. I'd

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Speaker 11: rather franchise tag him for a year, see how it goes.

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Speaker 11: He feels like Dan a guy that you want to

702
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Speaker 11: date and not marry.

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Speaker 4: And if you do choose to marry him and the

704
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Speaker 4: Cowboys might boy, you better that contract.

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Speaker 11: You better have a heck of a prenup if you're

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Speaker 11: gonna marry George Pickens to a long term deal.

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Speaker 3: We're talking to Ross Tucker CDs Sports Westwood One, NFL

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Speaker 3: college football analyst and of course, host of the Ross

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Speaker 3: Tucker Football podcast. The most must Win Game of the

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Speaker 3: weekend is which one.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna say other than last night, I

712
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Speaker 4: think I'm gonna say the Chiefs.

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Speaker 11: I think Chiefs Texans feels to me like that's as

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Speaker 11: close as we get to last night in the sense

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Speaker 11: of an elimination game. You know, I have no idea

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Speaker 11: how these people come up with these numbers where you know,

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Speaker 11: if the Cowboys win, they have a forty two percent

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Speaker 11: chance to make the playoffs. If they lose, they have

719
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Speaker 11: a nine. I mean, they could make up any number

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Speaker 11: and I would just believe them.

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Speaker 3: But those guys, Man, you went to Princeton, you're supposed

722
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Speaker 3: to know these things.

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Speaker 11: Dan, I intentionally avoided any math classes like that, like

724
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Speaker 11: they were the plague. Listen, there's certain classes at a

725
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 11: school like Princeton you take. There's certain classes you don't.

726
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Speaker 11: It's like all the guys freshman year that they walk

727
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 11: in they're like, yeah, I'm pre med. They're like, yeah, no,

728
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Speaker 11: you're not.

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Speaker 4: You won't be Yeah, wait till organic chemistry.

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Speaker 11: Just so you know, when you walk into that class,

731
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Speaker 11: almost everybody in there is smarter than you.

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Speaker 4: And if they're not, it's the hockey guys.

733
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Speaker 11: But no, I mean they come up with these percentages,

734
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Speaker 11: and last night was a massive swing, right like thirty

735
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Speaker 11: percent either way for the Lions and the Cowboys. That's

736
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Speaker 11: the Texans and the Chiefs. And what's interesting about that

737
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Speaker 11: one is it reminds me of last night in the

738
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Speaker 11: sense that the Chiefs are down both starting offensive tackles.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you who you don't want to play

740
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Speaker 4: when that's the case.

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Speaker 11: The Houston Texans Danil Hunter, Will Anderson the best edge

742
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Speaker 11: duo in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Those are two bad dudes. Mahomes better get rid of

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Speaker 4: the ball quickly.

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Speaker 3: I brought this up a couple of times to a

746
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Speaker 3: couple of different guests. Would you rather have a smart

747
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Speaker 3: player as a quarterback or a tough player as a quarterback?

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Speaker 4: Smart? Yeah, I would say smart.

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Speaker 11: I think it's still you know, isn't interesting that in

750
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Speaker 11: football with all these big, tough, strong, fast guys, it

751
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Speaker 11: really is intelligence. And we're talking football intelligence has nothing

752
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Speaker 11: to do with your SAT or whatever, but football intelligence

753
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Speaker 11: still is a massive, massive differentiator. You watch what Stafford

754
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Speaker 11: does a lot of these games. It's like he's in

755
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 11: the matrix, you know, he's seeing it the other night.

756
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Speaker 11: Joe Burrow, you know, I had a coach saying, we

757
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 11: were talking about this on the Ross Tucker podcast, Joe

758
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Speaker 11: Burrow is like a human computer chip. I mean that's

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Speaker 11: how quickly he probably And I have no idea what

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Speaker 11: kind of grades he got or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But he's the son of a coach and smart.

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Speaker 9: Look.

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Speaker 11: Of course you want them to be tough, right, but

764
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Speaker 11: tough can get you in trouble. You know who's tough.

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Speaker 11: Jackson Darts tough. Okay, Jackson darts tough. I'm not sure

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Speaker 11: where he is on the smart scale.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 11: I don't know how much of that's just youthful bravado

769
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Speaker 11: or stupidity.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure where he's at on that scale. I

771
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Speaker 4: like tough, I love smart. If I'm trying to win.

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Speaker 2: Big yeah, And I know Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 3: You know his dad was a defensive back and this

774
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Speaker 3: is how he plays. And it's not soccer. If that

775
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Speaker 3: one yard means we win the super Bowl, then go

776
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Speaker 3: get him. But that one yard you're coming out of

777
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Speaker 3: concussion protocol. You have two wins on the season, get

778
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Speaker 3: out of bounds.

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Speaker 11: Well, and Dan, I can remember this. I think it

780
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Speaker 11: was the fourth team I played for, was the Patriots,

781
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Speaker 11: And when you're in the training room. Okay, I don't

782
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Speaker 11: know if they still have it, but when you're in

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Speaker 11: the training room, they have a big sign above the

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Speaker 11: entrance and exit door that says the best ability is availability.

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Speaker 4: They are very very clear, you're sitting there in the

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Speaker 4: training room Dan getting treatment looking at that sign.

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Speaker 11: I mean, it's it's and maybe they took it down

788
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 11: because Belichick's not there anymore, but there was nothing subtle

789
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Speaker 11: about it. It was you're, you're, you know what needs

790
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 11: to be out there every day and you just can't win.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 11: I love Jackson Dart's mentality, I suppose, especially as a

793
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Speaker 11: former lineman, but they need you out there. You just

794
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 11: missed two games and then in the first ten snaps

795
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Speaker 11: against the Patriots you get master blasted twice.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we can't have that.

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Speaker 2: Is that the official term master blasted?

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Speaker 11: I don't know where that came from, but now that

799
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Speaker 11: I said it, it sounds way too close to another term,

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Speaker 11: so I'll probably never ever be saying that again.

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Speaker 3: Fritchy is a master blasturbader. Okay, So I think that

802
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Speaker 3: is that Mad Max?

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Speaker 2: Is that what that movie? I think that's what it's from.

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Speaker 4: Is it I don't know, man, you know what when

805
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Speaker 4: you you know?

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Speaker 2: Is that from Mad Max?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.

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Speaker 2: Oh okays.

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Speaker 6: The he's the guy who goes into the cage and

810
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 6: takes everybody out when they're they're jousting.

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Speaker 11: So now that that's fascinating to me because I've seen

812
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Speaker 11: that movie thirty five years ago, So somewhere in my

813
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 11: brain talking about Jackson Dark getting smoked, that came out.

814
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Speaker 11: The human brain is a wild thing.

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Speaker 3: Dan, Okay, but do linemen think less? Did you think

816
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: less of Tom Brady when he would just fall down

817
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: and not take a hit, or Peyton Manning or you

818
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: know some of these all time grades that didn't take

819
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Speaker 3: on contact.

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Speaker 4: Not even a little bit. We wanted them to do

821
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Speaker 4: that tom Brady.

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Speaker 11: All of our lives, our jobs, our success, our playoff money,

823
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Speaker 11: it's all in their hands. It's all in tom Brady's hands.

824
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Speaker 11: We can't have him getting hurt. I remember a Patriot

825
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 11: assistant coach telling me when I first got there, now

826
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Speaker 11: he's he's been a prominent coach since then, NFL head

827
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 11: coach and the whole deal. And I said, well, what

828
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Speaker 11: happened if something happens to Tom and he said, oh, well,

829
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Speaker 11: then we just fold up shop and it's over. And

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Speaker 11: I think he was joking, but because he was showing

831
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Speaker 11: me when I first got there all of the things

832
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Speaker 11: Dan that Brady did before the snap, which were crazy,

833
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Speaker 11: I had not experienced that with my first three teams.

834
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Speaker 11: No one redeclared the mic, changed the protection, changed the

835
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Speaker 11: run scheme right before the snap, and then snapped the

836
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Speaker 11: ball like Brady did. They were operating at a much

837
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Speaker 11: higher level, and you need that guy, you know. Think

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Speaker 11: about where the Chiefs would be without Mahomes or the

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Speaker 11: Bills without Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: You can't win with these guys getting hurt.

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson as a guest analyst on CBS, what do

842
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Speaker 3: you think?

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Speaker 12: You know?

844
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Speaker 11: I think I'm probably as curious as anybody else, you know.

845
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Speaker 11: I think we're all It's always interesting when someone that's

846
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 11: been playing this long and we know them in sort

847
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 11: of a player speak, player talk in that role to

848
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Speaker 11: see how they transition. Because Russell hasn't been known as

849
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 11: a guy that gives a colorful quote or gives a

850
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 11: lot of in depth information. He's sort of the prototype

851
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 11: and always has been for how you want your franchise

852
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 11: quarterback to handle those press conferences. You want them to smile,

853
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 11: you want to be courteous, and you want them to

854
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 11: give as little information as possible. So I think it

855
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 11: puts him in a unique spot on Sunday. Can he

856
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 11: just flip the switch?

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Speaker 4: You know?

858
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Speaker 11: Can he Can he flip the switch and actually say

859
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Speaker 11: something interesting? Or is he still sort of in I'm

860
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Speaker 11: an active player, you know, computer mode where I'm just

861
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 11: gonna say, you know, the generic thing because I don't

862
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 11: want to say anything that gets me in trouble.

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Speaker 4: I'm fascinated by it. I think it's great.

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Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I might tune in and watch

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Speaker 11: it to see, you know, what he's like. Of course,

866
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Speaker 11: because it's on CBS, and I love CBS, Dan, I

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Speaker 11: love anything that CBS does.

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Speaker 4: I am fully on board with. Of course you do.

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Speaker 3: You'll be on the call next Sunday, week fifteen between

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Speaker 3: the Jets and the Jags on CBS.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ross, great to talk to.

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Speaker 4: You always, Dan, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: It's Ross Stucker.