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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club flowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: exploding down the sightline. This He's Hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: presented by wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now,

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 1: What is today? Wednesday? Wednesday one o'clock, which is not

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Speaker 1: our normal time. You're looking live at Tostito's Championship Plaza

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Speaker 1: outside Ford Center here at the Star in a dreary Frisco, Texas,

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Speaker 1: where it is thirty nine degrees. It feels like twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: The high today is going to be forty in the

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Speaker 1: low tonight is going to be twenty and fellas, I

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Speaker 1: hope you went and bought groceries and gasoline and everything. Yep,

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Speaker 1: because it's snow mcgeddon around here the next two days.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about other parts of the country, but

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Speaker 1: Dallas is shutting down. We're not coming to the office tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: down for COVID. Little cole coming here. The schools are

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Speaker 1: shut down, like a little frieze coming here. Well, we

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Speaker 1: shut down a yall, do what I'm looking at the screen. Yo,

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Speaker 1: Hey Jesse, Wow, you're hanging off the roof today. Jesse's batman,

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Speaker 1: Hey Jesse, there he froze upside now too, what disaster? Bones?

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Speaker 1: All right? Man? On the blood or the bones. The

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Speaker 1: funny thing is his eyes are moving, so he's up.

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Speaker 1: He's just not hearing us. Wow, man, how y'all go?

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Speaker 1: Dog Jesse like that? What a disaster? This show is

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Speaker 1: already Smit deleting Chris's opens Kurt didn't send any freaking

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Speaker 1: notes for the show. We didn't send no notes. Current. No,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what's gonna get on. I know one thing,

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Speaker 1: the one that I showed stupid, because the commanders are stupid,

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Speaker 1: you go, So I gotta I gotta come up. It's

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Speaker 1: better than the admirals though, right. You know what, man,

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Speaker 1: these the casts don't make no sense. Man, they needed Wow,

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna even say what I was gonna say. Commanders.

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Speaker 1: And then Chris Beam showed me a picture, a little

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Speaker 1: video of them sending out these little small cars filled

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Speaker 1: with commanders gear that they're gonna pass out around the area.

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Speaker 1: The people gonna throw that stuff back at that car.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, I don't like their uniforms w in

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Speaker 1: the front there on the Blacks. With all the problems

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Speaker 1: in the world, they can't bring no joy with anything

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Speaker 1: they do. The Washington football team cannot bring any joy.

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Speaker 1: Let's admit it. We weren't gonna like anything they did.

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Speaker 1: No matter what they could have went back. I could

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Speaker 1: have gave him a name, betting that I'm gonna think

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Speaker 1: of a name, betting that, right, I do that next show,

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Speaker 1: bring us your name for the Washington Washington Boons, Daniel Boons,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Boone. Yeah, Hey, so how did you go up

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Speaker 1: there curse the whole team? Yeah, explain that I need

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Speaker 1: to stay away from if you if you want to

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl and you're a fan of either team,

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Speaker 1: send me up there on your on your opponent's behalf,

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Speaker 1: because I will jinx the hell out of them. So

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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta invite Last week to a good

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Speaker 1: friend of mine actually used to work for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: cheerleaders here. Um. Her family has a suite in Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I've been here eighteen years.

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Speaker 1: well go experience that. So I flew up on Saturday

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Speaker 1: and everything was looking great. At halftime, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's weird because I was like, I don't really have

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Speaker 1: But then I was there on behalf of some people

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Speaker 1: has been game management, clock management and all that. I said,

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Speaker 1: And sure enough, two big coaching mistakes in that game,

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Speaker 1: It's just that's your team. You watch them weekend and

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Speaker 1: But Bridges of Hope was a group of I've with.

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Speaker 1: our our group now bones didn't make it. That was

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Speaker 1: I need to know what what that that part of

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Speaker 1: You probably seen him at the games. He's the guy

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the Super Bowl matchup? What do you

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Speaker 1: You know what, the Rams got more homeboys in the

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Speaker 1: Dallas area. Okay, and uh okay, Nate McCarthy, you know

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Speaker 1: watching him. I've been watching what other quarterbacks have been doing.

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Speaker 1: Why did that quarterback run the week before? He got

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Speaker 1: sacked nine times? This week? Here he said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: dack back come on callum talk to him. That's what

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Speaker 1: I think about the Super Bowl. I'm going with Joe Cool.

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Speaker 1: interview Rick Goslin. We're doing a piece on the nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety one season. Nate I may become calling and so um.

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Speaker 1: We talked to him. He was a beat writer from

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Speaker 1: the morning news back then. Didn't Rick say something positive

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Speaker 1: about the Cowboys? He did he thought, he said that

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Speaker 1: was a fun team to cover. No, I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: these modern day Cowboys. Oh yeah, he probably had something, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably had something. We talked a little about a little

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Speaker 1: bit about the current Cowboys and Dak and all that.

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Speaker 1: He's very interesting, very knowledgeable. We got Kyle and I'll

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Speaker 1: get he. Just we discussed should McCarthy be calling plays.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you guys that, yes, yes, I

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Speaker 1: ain't backing up off of that year. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm in the yes camp. Now, well, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's everybody's with Sean Payton supposedly looking over his shoulder.

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Speaker 1: You would think mccarthur would want to. But why wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you If you're if you're a head coach, and you're

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Speaker 1: an offensive minded coach, and you got a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: we've seen greatness from flashes of greatness, why would you

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Speaker 1: not want to take play calling in your hands. I just, man,

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Speaker 1: when you have three or four players that I think

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Speaker 1: it's special, and I think one is elite, and they're

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Speaker 1: not at the top of your team or the top

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Speaker 1: of the league, and what they do, that's sad. It's

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Speaker 1: a mess that I don't care what and Jesse I

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Speaker 1: want to thank jesse Man because I used to try

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Speaker 1: to dog Amari and then he's stopped. They stopped with

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Speaker 1: just to fandom. Look at this kid, what he brings

448
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Speaker 1: and what Amari brings to this team. Man is elite

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Speaker 1: out the league that can do all things at its position,

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Speaker 1: and we did not take advantage of that. You have

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Speaker 1: a league guy in Ceedee Lamb, that specially if you

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Speaker 1: just quick as you can get in the ball as

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Speaker 1: great as he can be. These dudes did not play

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Speaker 1: a role in the playoff game. They did not play

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Speaker 1: a role in the last two or three games of

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Speaker 1: the year. Whether you like Zeke or not is not

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Speaker 1: the issue. You you slam him up in there. You

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Speaker 1: you find a way. And and this kid is a

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Speaker 1: mismatch in Tony Poller. Those are the four guys I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. They are mismatch he this kid, if he

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Speaker 1: was on any other team would be special. We couldn't

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Speaker 1: even find him the last two games of the year.

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Speaker 1: How do you do that? As an offensive coordinator, you

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Speaker 1: know you can say what you want about the office line.

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Speaker 1: I listen to Derek Eagleton earlier and he was so

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Speaker 1: spot on because our offensive line got beat to sleep

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Speaker 1: in the playoff game. He was so spot on, and

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Speaker 1: he said, that's one of his most surprising things of

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Speaker 1: you know, what went wrong. But I also want to

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Speaker 1: say that is the job of coach Filman, who did

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Speaker 1: a great job last year the year before of holding

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Speaker 1: this thing together, didn't do such a great job in

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Speaker 1: our last six games of the year of holding this

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Speaker 1: thing together and designing plays and putting our offensive line

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Speaker 1: in some type of advantage situation at some moments, not

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Speaker 1: all moments, because they were better than us defensively than

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Speaker 1: we were offensive but in some moments to give the

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Speaker 1: quarterback a chance. You can't do that. You can't do

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Speaker 1: that as offensive coordinator, offensive line coach, you know, and

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Speaker 1: not you, and not your head coach. Your head coach

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Speaker 1: gotta be every time he turned the film. That gotta

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Speaker 1: be in his mind. How does the offensive line coach

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Speaker 1: affect the play calling? Does it like when a play

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Speaker 1: is being designed, does he say, Okay, I think we

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Speaker 1: should block this alignment. I mean, how does he what's

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Speaker 1: his role? What he does is he'll come in and

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Speaker 1: he'll get with the offensive coordinator and the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: give him an overview of what he's thinking and if

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Speaker 1: he got any new plays, what protection verse, run or pass?

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Speaker 1: What protections fit it best? You know who can do

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Speaker 1: this and what can who can do that? But what

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Speaker 1: But what the offensive line coach want to do is

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Speaker 1: he helped put in the run plays and you know

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Speaker 1: Tony Wise used to do it for us, husting heart.

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Speaker 1: But then you know, but the offensive coordinator is the

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Speaker 1: guy that called the plays the majority of the time.

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Speaker 1: So they said, well, we don't want them to lose confidence. Well,

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Speaker 1: you ain't gonna lose confidence. He ain't gonna lose confidence

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Speaker 1: because you ain't gonna lose confidence. You're gonna stand on

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Speaker 1: the table for us. You see, we getting drove back,

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Speaker 1: beat to death, and the only thing we got left

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Speaker 1: is the ability to fight back. And that's going forward.

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Speaker 1: A lot of coaches will tell you can be physically

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Speaker 1: and pass blocking, but you can only be physical and

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Speaker 1: pass block if you've gotten after a guy, if you

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Speaker 1: can feel a guy. But if you're rushing man, I

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Speaker 1: can't touch you. How do I how do I feel you?

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Speaker 1: And so that's what happened in this playoff game. Is

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Speaker 1: our offensive line at one point, it's like Connor didn't

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Speaker 1: even know how to set up no more. When you

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Speaker 1: lose your integrity as an offensive lineman where you got

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Speaker 1: a guy right in front of you, but you don't

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Speaker 1: even know how to play him because you don't know

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Speaker 1: what he's going to do to you, because you've dictated

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Speaker 1: nothing on him. You've not laid hands on him, you've

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Speaker 1: not mentally got on him. You can jab him or

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Speaker 1: punch him. Now you just sitting there like a like

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Speaker 1: a weeble wobble, but you're gonna fall down. And that's

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Speaker 1: what happened to this young man that that right there.

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Speaker 1: It's partly the coach's fault too. Yeah, that man that

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Speaker 1: ain't jest to take over. Man, should he be getting

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Speaker 1: criticized more? Yes he should because of this. I mean

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Speaker 1: you had Connor Williams in and now you had rotating

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Speaker 1: tackles and this and that. I mean yeah, yeah, And

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Speaker 1: that's why I got Kyle Yoeman's down there to see

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Speaker 1: your bowl looking for me a guard in the center,

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Speaker 1: and I and you know what, if I'm still on

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Speaker 1: this show going forward in these years to come or

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Speaker 1: these months to come, we need a guard, a center

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Speaker 1: and a blocking tight end. We you can chalk the

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Speaker 1: tight ends. It's rather at a tight end can win

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Speaker 1: you a game. You know that dude in Kansas City

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Speaker 1: can do it. The old guy at at New England

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Speaker 1: when he was now he's with Tampa, he used to

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Speaker 1: could do it. Ain't too many tight ends can win

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Speaker 1: and dominate games. So what you need to do is

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Speaker 1: find you're a blocking tight end that can catch, so

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Speaker 1: you can have a dual threat. And we can set

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Speaker 1: this edge for Tony Pollack and we can get Zeke

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Speaker 1: right at the tackles and get him going back up

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Speaker 1: the field. It's obvious what we need. And we need

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Speaker 1: for Dak to turn back into rookie Dak and then

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Speaker 1: we'll then we'll be back twelve wins and we'll make

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Speaker 1: it to the second round of the playoffs. And oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm still looking for somebody to stop the run in

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Speaker 1: the middle of our defense. Go ahead, Jesse. You know,

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Speaker 1: I listened to Nate and I listened to some of

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Speaker 1: the question that Kurt was asking and I and I

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00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: find myself just so confused and the and the question

550
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Speaker 1: I have is is there some sort of spell, some

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Speaker 1: some negative spell that's on us that we just can't

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Speaker 1: get it right. We'll have a dominant offense. Defense can't

553
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Speaker 1: do nothing. We have a dominant defense, offense can't do nothing.

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Speaker 1: We haven't been through coaches and coordinators and assistant coaches,

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Speaker 1: and we and and man for man, we're not the Jaguars. Okay,

556
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Speaker 1: we're not the Dolphins. Man. Our rosters are pretty much

557
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Speaker 1: always loaded, and it's just mind blowing to like, I

558
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: don't know what we need, Like I don't know, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what we have to do to fix this,

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Speaker 1: because it's it's it's we've we've had superior coaches, we've

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Speaker 1: had superior coordinators, we've had superior talent, but in twenty

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Speaker 1: six years, it has not resulted in anything but frustration

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Speaker 1: and early eliminations. And so I just i'm I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: baffled at where to go of what to do because

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Speaker 1: we keep saying we need this, we need that, we

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Speaker 1: need this. We had the best offensive line in football

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Speaker 1: for a good two to four year run when we

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Speaker 1: had Travis Frederick, Zack, Martin, Lyle Collins. You know, you

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Speaker 1: even had you get through Doug Free in there and

570
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Speaker 1: put whoever us you want there. But that was one

571
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Speaker 1: of the most dominant offensive lines in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: We had rushing champions, we had four thousand yard quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: We had two three thousand yard receivers. We've had all those.

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Speaker 1: We've had all of those, We've had now a stud

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Speaker 1: this year. We had a stud linebacker who we found

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Speaker 1: out can also be a dominant defensive defensive age Russia.

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Speaker 1: We've had good edge rushers. We had a guy who,

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Speaker 1: damned there had a thousand interceptions in a season getting

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Speaker 1: Still what did it result in? Nothing but frustration and

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Speaker 1: early elimination. I don't know. I played on teams that

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Speaker 1: had dominant players on them, Jay Ratliffe, DeMarcus Ware, Brady Jane.

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Speaker 1: I played on those teams. I played with good quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo, I played with with tight ends and that's

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Speaker 1: Brian in his prime and Roy Williams. I played with

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Speaker 1: them before that. We've you know, there was t O

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Speaker 1: and but yeah, still the Bill parcels and still frustration,

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Speaker 1: early elimination. I just I'm seeing all these other teams ascend, right,

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Speaker 1: I see, you know, I see what the what what

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Speaker 1: what Joe Burrow and and and and and that squad

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Speaker 1: is doing with the Bengals. I see how you know

591
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady with the Tampa and one year turned that

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Speaker 1: team around. They went they wouldn't won a damn Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't won a Super Bowl in one year. Uh

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Speaker 1: you see, you see the teams all across the league.

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Speaker 1: You know Andy Reid, he turned around Kansas City, made them,

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Speaker 1: made them are now the standard of football in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. You see what what was happening in

598
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Speaker 1: LA with the Charges was happened in the LA with

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Speaker 1: the Rams. Honestly, the San Francisco forty nine is only

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Speaker 1: a decent quarterback away that they are. They are above average.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think Jimmy G's above average. There. They

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Speaker 1: get a quarterback that can actually win them some football games,

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00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: win them a game or two of this year, they'll

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Speaker 1: find themselves back in another situation. Who knows what Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers will end up at. But I just see all

606
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: these other franchises being able to come in and turn

607
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Speaker 1: their programs around with far less than what we have,

608
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Speaker 1: and being able to do more with far less than

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Speaker 1: what we have. And so it frustrates me because I'm

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Speaker 1: saying we have we had the best facilities, we had

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Speaker 1: the best stadium we have. We have everything that you want,

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Speaker 1: but yet still we can never put the total thing together. Offense, defense, coaching, courtnet,

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Speaker 1: whatever it may be. We just can't see. And we've

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Speaker 1: wasted from the Jason Garrett into the Jason Garrett era

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Speaker 1: to the beginning of the Mike McCarthy era. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how much longer Mike McCarthy has. I do truly

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Speaker 1: believe that he had. He's a he's a dead man

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Speaker 1: walking and the only thing that will be able to

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Speaker 1: save his life is a Super Bowl with with with

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore looming, and if dan Quinn hasn't that we

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Speaker 1: haven't talked about this, but I really do feel that

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Speaker 1: there was conversations and this whole dan Quinn negotiation thing

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Speaker 1: that if Mike McCarthy couldn't get things done, that dan

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Speaker 1: quinn would be a serious kendidate to get a head

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Speaker 1: coaching jobber right here in Dallas in a year or so.

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Speaker 1: And so he has to perform, he has to perform

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Speaker 1: this year, and they have to do something. But we've

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00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: wasted years. Dak is going into the seventh year we

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Speaker 1: saw ze Zeke. I don't know Zeke will ever get

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Speaker 1: back to the zeke that we saw who was able

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Speaker 1: to break twenty thirty forty fifty yard runs from screenplayers

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Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, Amari Cooper gets another year older.

633
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith is just about done. You know, we don't

634
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: have an offensive line. Lyle Collins still hasn't. I don't

635
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: believe truly recovered from that hip injury. You saw the

636
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: way you played towards the end of the year, really high.

637
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: There was no Ben, no athleticism and t and Lyle Collins.

638
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: Who knows how much longer is Zach Martin will play.

639
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: He's still a dominant guard, but he may not play

640
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: much longer. So you have all these determining factors that

641
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: are happening. Oh, by the way, you also gotta pay

642
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: folks too. We got twenty one free agents, so always

643
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: trying to trying to build this team, we're missing these windows.

644
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: We're missing these prime windows of these prime athletes, and

645
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: we'll be finding ourselves trying to rebuild again. If you

646
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: fire the head coach in another year, if your coordinators

647
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: are not there, or you know, when you hire a

648
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: new guide and everything changes. It's just it's just one

649
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: of those things where it leaves me. It leaves me

650
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: baffled because I don't know what we have to do

651
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: to truly put ourselves in a position to be in

652
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: the conversation come mid February. We get there in August,

653
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: it's always old. But these Cowboys, if they can, if

654
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: they can get X, Y and Z together, they'll be

655
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: They'll be playing late in the season, and then we'll

656
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: have moments throughout the season they're like, oh, this Cowboys

657
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: are the dominant football team. But every single time, more

658
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: than half of my life, when we get to the

659
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: February part of talking about things, Cowboys' names aren't in

660
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: that conversation. Speaking of Dan Quinn. When every other show

661
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: all across the country was saying he's gone, he's gone,

662
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: there was one show said he might he might just

663
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: stay around, he might just be here. I don't know

664
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: what show that was or who said that, but it

665
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: wasn't Cheers, Hell wasn't Jesse, because Jesse was like, there's

666
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: no way he's gone. I tell you, lazrahem so happy

667
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: this man stayed. A season is success. Now this is

668
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: for me. I'm gonna tell y'all something. I had us

669
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: dead in the water. Y'all know that at the beginning

670
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: of the year because of our defense, and I thought

671
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: we would just barely make the playoffs because we was

672
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: in a not so strong division. But I'm telling you,

673
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm mean conference. But I'm telling you, he got to

674
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: put another rabbit out of his hat. Out of all

675
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: these defensive players that they got to choose to try

676
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: to keep if they can, and then go out and

677
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: find some fresh ones. He got to have another another

678
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: great year. And it's one thing that's missing Jess out

679
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: of all that she said is both teams, both sides

680
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: of the ball, special teams included physical. We can't ever

681
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: forget that. That's what we haven't had on both sides

682
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: of the ball, and special teams at the same time.

683
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: We have never been had a physical team in a

684
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: lot of years. We're not physical. I thought you had

685
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: it this year, and then I thought we could get

686
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: it up one game, one game, one game. We we

687
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: had We had some physical players. And when I say players,

688
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean a very I mean I mean I mean

689
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: less than five, right, But we were in a physical team.

690
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: That's a difference. Being a physical team is a is

691
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: a mentality, it's a it's a it's a way about

692
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: you as a whole. The totality of the team is

693
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: a physical brand of football. We had a guy or

694
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: two or three who played physically. That don't make you

695
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: a physical team. For the most part, we have all

696
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: always been finesse. It's always it's always been about the

697
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: glitz and glam and and and the show. We ain't.

698
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: We ain't got no real junkyard dolls. We don't. We

699
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: don't have no dude that's gonna that's gonna, you know,

700
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: bite the skin off your arm and spit it out

701
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: and you know, ready to go again. We don't. We don't.

702
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't have a team mindset like that.

703
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: Who's gonna just say We're gonna just beat the hell

704
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: out of you for four pollers and if you're standing

705
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: back at the end of the game, then then cool beans.

706
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: But if not, then we're gonna win this game. We don't.

707
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: We don't have that. We we have the like I said,

708
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: a player or two, but we're we're finesse. I'll tell

709
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: you what else. What else? I realized that that game

710
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: is no matter how and this is another thing that

711
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: made me frustrated as a Cowboys fan. No matter how

712
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: good you are, Kansas City. Yeah, every year they're there.

713
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: It's hard as hell to win the Super Bowl. Yes,

714
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: and they're good folks and they're consistent and folks. And

715
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: you just realized, like they were there and they steal

716
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: law four straight NC. Yeah, and we we can't even

717
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: get there. I want to be there, so amazing. It

718
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: just me. I looked over at my wife and I said,

719
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: coach has always said, it's not how many great plays

720
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: you make, it's that one bad play where you believe

721
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: the player as a coach instead of kicking the three

722
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: and giving that great player that opportunity to make a

723
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: great play. Yeah, Jimmy would have kicked it. And I

724
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: promise you. And it's and it's and you realize, like

725
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: you know, every every guest we had on Cross Talk

726
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: on Wednesday night that we talked about the Super Bowl,

727
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: every one of them said it takes a you gotta

728
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: be a little bit lucky to get to and win

729
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: the Super And you think about Patrick Mahomes, You're like, oh,

730
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: he's young. They locked him up for ten years. They're

731
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: gonna be in a lot of Super Bowls? Are they

732
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: like that window man is say was unique? Yeah? I

733
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Speaker 1: mean radio Yeah, and that makes you appreciate him that

734
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: much more like him or hate that guy like if

735
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: you don't. If you don't appreciate him and respect what

736
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: he did, you just you keep you don't like football,

737
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: you don't need to talk about football. Yeah, yeah, you're

738
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: a bigger hater than me. You're a bigger hater than me.

739
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: If you don't like an appreciate it, I'm the biggest. Yes,

740
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: we know, we got Jesse. We gotta let you go.

741
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: We gotta get our super fan on. Kurt's got a

742
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: bail too. We'll all be, I guess back together on

743
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: we all here Monday. Yes, well, me and Nate'll be

744
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: back with our cowboy super cowboy macguil Costellano's Jesse, good

745
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Speaker 1: scene you, Kurt, good seeing you. We'll be back for

746
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Speaker 1: the boys. Welcome back to the show and do we

786
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Speaker 1: have a treat for you. The Ford Hall of Fans

787
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: as an official part of the Pro Football Hall of

788
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Speaker 1: Fame in Canton. It's for fans who have been demonstrated

789
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Speaker 1: outstanding loyalty, passion and character, and our guest on the

790
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: show now is known as Super Cowboy. Mcguel was nominated

791
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: to represent the Cowboys as part of the twenty twenty

792
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: two class of the Ford Hall of Fans, and I

793
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: hear he is an avid listener and fan of hanging

794
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: with the boys? Is that true or false? Miguel, Absolutely true. Yeah, man,

795
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: so good seeing you. I see you at every home game.

796
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: You're usually down in the Miller Light Club in the

797
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: same spot. And how did you how did you get

798
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: tell us a little story of how you got nominated.

799
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: So I guess somebody that saw what I was doing

800
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: in the community and the fandom that I have nominated

801
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: me and Ford reached out to me and said they

802
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: wanted to do an interview at the Star and also

803
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: if I could help out with a toy drive of Um.

804
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: I really didn't know what was going on. I thought,

805
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, I was going to be just an interview

806
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: about maybe getting nominated, and you know, all of a sudden,

807
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: I see Drew Pearson getting out of this brand new

808
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: four truck and I'm like, what's going on? Is he

809
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: don't eating toys? I'm like, this is awesome. So I

810
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: was like, hey, Drew, how's it going? And then he

811
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: says my name and I don't know Drew, So I

812
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, how does he know my

813
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: real name? You know what I mean. So it was

814
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: a total surprise to me. You know, when he started

815
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: telling me that he was there to nominate me for

816
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: the four Fans, I just started crying. I just couldn't believe.

817
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: I was overwhelmed with with you know, such a great

818
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: honor to even be nominated. You know, it's something that

819
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,479
Speaker 1: I just can't believe that this happened to me. Hello

820
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: is my friend. I'm just Nate knew. I have two questions.

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Speaker 1: The first one is tell us your story of how

822
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: you became the super fan. Um. Since I was a kid,

823
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: I grew up in Mexico a little bit. I was

824
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: born here, but I grew up in Mexico. So when

825
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: I came back, it was about ninety nineteen ninety. I

826
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about football, American football, just soccer. And

827
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: in ninety three, I wanted to go to a Super

828
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: Bowl party, but my mom wouldn't let me go because

829
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: she said I was gonna be drinking and smoking. And

830
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: I said about it, and I was like, well, what

831
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: is this super Bowl? Because I didn't know what it was,

832
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: and you know, ninety three is it's Cowboys Bills. And

833
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: I watched this super Bowl by myself. They didn't know

834
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: what was going on, they didn't know the rules or anything.

835
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: But I was just memorized by the Cowboys and the

836
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: star in the helmet and the way they won that game,

837
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: which you know Nate was there, so you know, it's

838
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: just from then on, I just I was a Cowboy fan.

839
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Speaker 1: And little by little, as I got older, as I

840
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: started driving and I started going to all the training

841
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Speaker 1: camps and ox and art, you know, I started wearing

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Speaker 1: a mask two games, just a mask and a cape.

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Speaker 1: And then little by little I was like, you know

844
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Speaker 1: what if I'm gonna wear a mask for my culture

845
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: because I'm Mexicanum, like, I'm going to do it the

846
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: right way because Luca Doors don't take their mask off.

847
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: They always have their mask on. They actually get buried

848
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: with their mask, married with their mask. So part of

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00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: my culture and everything that I wear in my jersey

850
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: and everything that I represent, everything has a little story

851
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: to it. But that's kind of like, you know, the

852
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: the quick version of it that that's how I started.

853
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: And mostly what I like to do is I do

854
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in the community. Um, I work

855
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: with the Boys and Girls Club, I do walks, toys,

856
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: for Todds, so stuff like that, so pretty much. You know,

857
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: I do wear the stuff as a fan, but I

858
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: also wear it because it opens doors for me to

859
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 1: to get people to help me out in the community.

860
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Speaker 1: And it's just something that I that I love to do. Wow,

861
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: my second question you already answered it, man, Is you

862
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: remind me of a Mandalorian? You know? Do you never

863
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: gonna take your helmet? All? So that's right, right man.

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00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you like this here, man, Uh,

865
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: when do we know if you're gonna be our guy?

866
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: When you do, we know if you're gonna get into

867
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. The voting will continue until this Sunday,

868
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: February sixth, and I believe on Monday I will get

869
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: the phone call either I'm a finalist or not. And

870
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: the cool thing about being a finalist is I actually

871
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: get to go to the Super Bowl this year. So

872
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm just anxious. I can't sleep. You know, I'm just

873
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: having it out there for everybody to vote and go

874
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: into the website and and hopefully, you know, if it's

875
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: if God wants it to be and and it's meant

876
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: for me, and it's it's something just awesome to even

877
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: be in that and that and that building. It's just

878
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: something that I can't even think of right now, like

879
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: how great that will be. And everyone needs to go

880
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: to www. Dot Ford Hall of Fans dot com. It's

881
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: Ford Hall of Fans dot com. Vote for Miguel. You

882
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: can vote what a day from now until Sunday, Miguel.

883
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: Who is your favorite former Cowboy and current Cowboy? Former Cowboy?

884
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: I want to say, Uh, Emmett Smith for sure. Right

885
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: behind here, I have my my jersey. That's my first

886
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: Emmett Smith jersey. Um, I still have it. It has

887
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: a little couple of holes here and there. I actually

888
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: met him and showed it to him and and he

889
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: was He's my my for sure, past you know, nineties

890
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: player and then current player. Um. I just love Dak.

891
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people, you know, have a

892
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: lot of hate for him, but the character that he

893
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: has and the way that he presents himself. Um, when

894
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: I've met him a couple of times at training camp,

895
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: He's just an awesome guy. And and he has the

896
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: heart like that you know when he broke his ankle

897
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: and he was trying to get it back together on

898
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: the field. I mean that just broke my heart and

899
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: then from then on I even liked him even Yeah,

900
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: and Nate, Uh, Miguel was out at a training camp

901
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: when we were doing our things out on the stage.

902
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, it took a couple of pictures with us.

903
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, so hey, thank you for joining the

904
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: show man. Keep doing what you're doing in the community.

905
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: Um go vote for Miguel www dot Ford Hall of

906
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: Fans dot com. Vote once a day from now until Sunday.

907
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: Anything you want to ask Nate before you before we

908
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: let you go and in the I guess this will

909
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: be our last show till Monday. Absolutely, absolutely, what I

910
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: want to ask mister Nate. Um, what do you think

911
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: is what's missing from from the you know, the current teams.

912
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: I know from the nineties, everybody wanted it. You could

913
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: tell on the on the play that, you know, everybody

914
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: wanted to win. Everybody was all together. And it feels

915
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: to me like in that playoff game that I was at,

916
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: it just seemed to me like they were dragging their

917
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: feed that just didn't really care what was going on.

918
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they get paid and I know

919
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: that want to play, but it just seemed to me

920
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: like they They were not motivated. They didn't have that

921
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: hard that you know, I want to win this game.

922
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: We you know we're at home. We can't lose. You

923
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean physical You have to have a

924
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 1: mindset that that there's no way somehow somewhere I'm maturnings

925
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: into a fist fight. And that's what we did as

926
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. When when I played, you know you're gonna

927
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: face better teams or better athletes, but somehow, somewhere you

928
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: want to make it physical. You want to make every

929
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: play a challenge. And I don't think that our team

930
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: came out, especially early in the game and made every

931
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: play a physical challenge for the opponent. They kind of

932
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: got up owners, they kind of brought the physicality to

933
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: us and it was over. So what we need to

934
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: work on in training camp OTAs is being physical, laying

935
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: hands on people are not being dumb. And I'm not

936
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: talking about getting penaltedes, ain't talking my spirit. I'm talking

937
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: about physically finishing plays, physically going one step past the

938
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: whistle man, letting guys know that you here to the end.

939
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: You hear a lot of teams say we played to

940
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: the end. You know you you you saw where Cincinnati

941
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: played to the end. They did not care, you know,

942
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: so that that is the one thing we didn't do

943
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: against winning programs because we didn't play to the end. Miguel,

944
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: Chris has a question for you before let you go.

945
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: He wants to know if you got married in your outfit. No,

946
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: I did not. I did not get married in my outfit.

947
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: All right, Well you said you get you know, they

948
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: did said you said that part of your culture that

949
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, get married in it. You right, you get

950
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: buried in there or whatever. I didn't know if you

951
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: got married in yours. And now his wife wasn't that

952
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: man I feel about that? She wanted to say, yeah exactly,

953
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to. I wanted to, but I'm pretty sure

954
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: the wife was like, no, I didn't have my Cowboys

955
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: stuff underneath here. Well, thanks Miguel, thanks for joining us.

956
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: Hopefully we see you back out of training camp in

957
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: July and August, and then we'll see you on the

958
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: side of One more question, one more question, one more question. Miguel,

959
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: what do you think about the Washington football team being

960
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 1: named the Commanders? Um? I like you, says Ello el okay,

961
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: my brother, Thank you, Miguel, thank you, My man, Nate

962
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 1: good Sin, Yes, you're good to have Jesse and Kurt back. Chris,

963
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: thanks for keeping us on the answer, William, thanks for

964
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: keeping us. Will you live streams up. We'll be back Monday,

965
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: eleven thirty a m. Hanging with a boy. See later. Miguel,

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Speaker 1: Go vote, Vote for Miguel. This has been a production

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Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.