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Speaker 1: It's so true. You can't invest emotionally in a guy

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Speaker 1: that might be in the locker next to you and

424
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Speaker 1: then he gets cut. Now you're bent out of shape

425
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Speaker 1: because one of your best friends are going. Now you

426
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Speaker 1: have to remain focused and get your ass back on

427
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Speaker 1: the field and play ball. So when it comes to

428
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Speaker 1: the coaches, I've learned that not only will they get

429
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Speaker 1: fired too, but their money's guarantee. Now it's the assistant coaches.

430
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Speaker 1: It's the guys that I have relationships, the guys that

431
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Speaker 1: helped bring me in, the guys that spend the most

432
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Speaker 1: time with. You don't spend the most time with the

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Speaker 1: head coach. You spend the most time with a Todd Downing,

434
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Speaker 1: who was my punt returner coach and spent time with

435
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Speaker 1: me every single day, saying you're gonna get your opportunity

436
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Speaker 1: to be a part returner. And I'm like, Todd, I

437
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Speaker 1: don't want to be a punt returner. Downing as a

438
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach for Derek Carr and the Oakland Raiders from

439
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Speaker 1: the coach with Scott Linehan in Saint Louis and also

440
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,720
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford and Detroit. And I'll remember him coach me

441
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 1: up saying, now you're gonna get you opportunity. It might

442
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Speaker 1: not be with this team, but at some point you're

443
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,320
Speaker 1: gonna be thrust it into the lineup as a punt

444
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 1: return A few years later, I'm in Seattle trying to

445
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 1: earn my way back on the fields of wide receiver.

446
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,440
Speaker 1: I become one of the best part returns in the league.

447
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Speaker 1: And I remember calling him saying, thank you for spending

448
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Speaker 1: those days with me that I didn't want to do.

449
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,680
Speaker 1: That's the guy who I care for. When the coach

450
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Speaker 1: gets fired because not their money's not always guaranteed, and

451
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Speaker 1: then on top of that, they have families and new

452
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Speaker 1: babies and new homes and they have to upwood and

453
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Speaker 1: figure it out because they can't sit still. Because in football,

454
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Speaker 1: if you're a coach, you sit still, you get forgotten.

455
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 1: Just like a player. They say a year out is tougher,

456
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Speaker 1: you get back in two years. Forget about it. Same

457
00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 1: theme of coaches. If they want to sit back, relax

458
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 1: and sit at home, there's another young coach that's gonna

459
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Speaker 1: get paid even less that to do even more work

460
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Speaker 1: and sleepover at the facility and earn his way onto

461
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Speaker 1: the staff. So callous with the head coaches get fired

462
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 1: because one they have the money, they'll always land on

463
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Speaker 1: their feet because they're in that buddy system. And if

464
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Speaker 1: you're really good at what you do, you don't need

465
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Speaker 1: the buddy system. You'll get hired because you're talented. That's

466
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Speaker 1: what it brings the mind from me in Black Monday.

467
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Speaker 1: I used to be much more naive about this interestany

468
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,919
Speaker 1: I used to think, Oh, coaching, that's so cool, you know.

469
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 1: And I was talking to a player who was wrapping

470
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Speaker 1: up his NFL career with his wife. I was like, so,

471
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,919
Speaker 1: are you gonna get into coaching? You'd be great at that,

472
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: and his wife jumps in. He goes, no way, are

473
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Speaker 1: we getting into coaching? And we're not having that lifestyle.

474
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Speaker 1: It is horrible. I'm not moving my family every year

475
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Speaker 1: every two years. It's like we were looking. You see

476
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Speaker 1: these guys on the sideline, Pete Carroll or Bill Belichick wherever.

477
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 1: He's like god, They're like, gods, what amazed? I'd love

478
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 1: to be a head coach someday. Unbelievable. And it's like,

479
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: and think about that. Okay, so we have there's a

480
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Speaker 1: holiday called Black Monday off NFL Owner with a report.

481
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 1: By the way, Kyle, and I could not be more

482
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Speaker 1: jealous of the fact that your phone's blowing up left

483
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Speaker 1: and right with like, you know, and these guys are

484
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Speaker 1: watching it saying, wait, what are you saying? Peter, To

485
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Speaker 1: your credit, you try not to be that character you

486
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Speaker 1: see in NFL media, the guy who's always checking your phone.

487
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 1: I want to see who who's number I have in

488
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Speaker 1: my phone. You don't do that here, we'll see something wrong.

489
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Speaker 1: He he doesn't jump in and say that's complete bs

490
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,239
Speaker 1: because at the time Shregor either knows was about to happen. Right,

491
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: you've been on fire, And I think the point I

492
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: was making was for the family. There's a holiday every

493
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Speaker 1: year where people just get firebrate you getting fired. Yeah,

494
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Speaker 1: I mean if if you are a doctor or Dennis

495
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Speaker 1: or whatnot, and there's there's Black Monday of her where

496
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Speaker 1: half the Dennis get fire. There's a show called The

497
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Speaker 1: Aftermath about here about your aftermath. All you know, the

498
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 1: local realtors have gotten fired. Teachers have to move. So

499
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Speaker 1: you look at the coaches, and of course they very

500
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Speaker 1: well compensated the high up guys. Yeah, but those low

501
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Speaker 1: end guys. Maybe you have a twenty six year old

502
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Speaker 1: who was on Chip Kelly staff who wants to propose

503
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Speaker 1: to his wife and they live in the Bay Area

504
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: and her family's there, and it's perfect. We got a

505
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Speaker 1: new head coach. You're gonna be here for years. No,

506
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Speaker 1: now you gotta move and you got a job in

507
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Speaker 1: South Carolina. Yeah, and if you had to move, it's horrible.

508
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: And the Chip takes a year off next year and says,

509
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Speaker 1: I don't want to do it to TV. He's not

510
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Speaker 1: taking you with you, so all right. So here's where

511
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Speaker 1: I gets interesting, though. You've also got all these dynamics,

512
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Speaker 1: and I know Kay loves that. I love this the

513
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: Melrose play stuff of personal relationships where this guy knows

514
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Speaker 1: this guy. This guy knows this guy. A lot of

515
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Speaker 1: times it's nepotus him. It's I feel comfortable, this guy's

516
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Speaker 1: not going to threaten me. So these a lot of times,

517
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: these owners and presidents are hiring coaches that might not

518
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: be the best coach, but might be the least threatening coach,

519
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: or the guy that might work the best of the

520
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: stars away you can attach strings to and play a

521
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: little bit of puppetmaster. I'm not saying there's some puppets

522
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: out there, but so you can control just a little

523
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Speaker 1: bit and have some influence on these coaches. I know

524
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Speaker 1: exactly what you're saying. So there's a bunch of guys

525
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Speaker 1: out there, and I think it's interesting. So like, for example,

526
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Speaker 1: we talked on our show about a guy named Sean

527
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Speaker 1: McVay who's thirty years old. I think I like the characters, right,

528
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Speaker 1: So I've no Sean. It's not like I'm pumping up

529
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Speaker 1: his tires or anything. He's gonna get this on his own, merit.

530
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Speaker 1: I like the story of Sean McVay because he's thirty

531
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Speaker 1: years old, and I think our shows a pretty young show.

532
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Speaker 1: Is he's such a badass in your opinion, Like at

533
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Speaker 1: the age of thirty, what has he earned? At the

534
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Speaker 1: age of thirty two thousand and eight, he was with

535
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Speaker 1: John Gruden and the Buccaneers. John Gruden loses his job,

536
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Speaker 1: he goes and coaches at the United Football League, that

537
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Speaker 1: Florida Tuskers, you know, and then he goes with Jay

538
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Speaker 1: Gruden and him and Jay Gruden go and he actually

539
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: was the assistant tight ends coach of the Redskins, that

540
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Speaker 1: tight ends coach, then the offensive coordinator and this year

541
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Speaker 1: called all the plays. So like he's done that progression.

542
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Speaker 1: Does he have a fiance or girlfriend or anything? Does he?

543
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Speaker 1: I'm interested Shawn as I as I know, Shawn is single,

544
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: no kids? See, of course badass, badass now. He also

545
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: his grandfather was also the general manager of the forty

546
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Speaker 1: nine Ers for many years. John McVay, who's with Bill Walsh.

547
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Speaker 1: So there's like a football lineage there, and I find

548
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Speaker 1: him interesting. It's just an archetype, right, Like here's a

549
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Speaker 1: thirty year old guy, and then on the other end

550
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Speaker 1: you've got Mike Smith who's fifty seven years old, Coughlin

551
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Speaker 1: at seventy one, or Marv Leavey saying I'm in at

552
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Speaker 1: ninety one. There that's to me, kay, what's so fascinating.

553
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Speaker 1: You've got a guy like Steve Wilkes, who's a name

554
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Speaker 1: that no one had heard of until we did the

555
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Speaker 1: ones to watch really on our show. You know he's

556
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Speaker 1: in he's in his late forties. African American defensive backs

557
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Speaker 1: coach in Carolina. He's not the defensive coordinator, he's not

558
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Speaker 1: the head coach. He's the defensive backs coach in Carolina.

559
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 1: He's getting head coaching job interviews because of how much

560
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: players love him and what he did with Josh Norman

561
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: and all those guys. Like, merit matters. It's a meritocracy,

562
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Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, the best coach

563
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: will get it. My favorite story of all is the Steelers.

564
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: Bill Coward retires right everyone's looking, who's gonna that one?

565
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Speaker 1: The guy Russ Grimm, who's the assistant head coach. He

566
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: was like the offense of line for years for this

567
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: led Skin Redskins, legendary offensive line coach. Everyone thought it

568
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: was a no brainer. Russ Grimm was going to do it,

569
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Speaker 1: but they wanted to meet other people. So let's bring

570
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Speaker 1: other guys. A thirty four year old defensive back coach

571
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Speaker 1: who was in Minnesota the year before, an irrelevant Vikings

572
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: team and the Buccaneers before that, walks in and wins

573
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Speaker 1: the interview, and they're like, you know what, let's go young.

574
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Speaker 1: Let's hire this guy with no one's ever heard of him.

575
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Speaker 1: Let's tire Mike Tomlin. And then Mike Tomlin gets the job,

576
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Speaker 1: and he hasn't given another sense ho league. Everybody's like,

577
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Speaker 1: what who Mike whom he played at William and marriage

578
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Speaker 1: just as young. He's just as old as an assistant

579
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Speaker 1: defensive backs coach, you know. So that's what's fascinating about

580
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Speaker 1: all this thing. So when you see all these names

581
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Speaker 1: come out, and I mentioned Mike Smith because he's fifty

582
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Speaker 1: seven years old, he's been a head coach already. He

583
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Speaker 1: took a year off, worked for the league for a

584
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Speaker 1: year and then comes back and he's just like rejuvenated

585
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: Mike Smith. He was offensive coordinated the Buccaneers. The fact

586
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Speaker 1: that he fight gone to a yacht, the fact that

587
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Speaker 1: Mike Smith is in the same conversation as Sean McVay

588
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Speaker 1: at thirty, who's single, who's got like the look and everything?

589
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: Reach out to you and say what are you hearing? Yeah?

590
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: Of course, so they're like, who else is up for

591
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: the job? Yes? And what do you think they want

592
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: to hear? Like what what would be your advice? And

593
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not getting paid on anything. I'm not

594
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Speaker 1: a consultant, I'm not an agent. They see me on television,

595
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Speaker 1: everybody talking about this, they see me at the games

596
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Speaker 1: on Fox, so they think that I know something. I'll

597
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Speaker 1: give them honest assessments on what I think they might

598
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Speaker 1: want to hear, but I have no real say. Is

599
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Speaker 1: there a trend this year? I remember at some point

600
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Speaker 1: during the season we were doing ones to watch you said,

601
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Speaker 1: you you know you made you were you were taking

602
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: a stance, just to take a stance, But you said,

603
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Speaker 1: go younger, Like there's all these young guys as young,

604
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Speaker 1: you know, young Einstein's coming in. Is that still what

605
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Speaker 1: you can think? I think Josh McDaniels and Kyle Shanahan

606
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Speaker 1: are two very hot prospects. Now. I know we're gonna

607
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Speaker 1: go on to other topics, but I just wanted the

608
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Speaker 1: Kyle thing is interesting. So Nate played for Kyle Shanahan.

609
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Speaker 1: He's thirty eight years old as the offensive coordinator in Atlant,

610
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Speaker 1: thirty six actually in Atlanta, young guy, bright mind. He's

611
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Speaker 1: got a father, Mike Shanahan, who was the head coach

612
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Speaker 1: of the Denver Broncos, then the head coach of the

613
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Speaker 1: Washington Reis and then to end pretty in Washington with

614
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: Robert Griffin and Ottomans Nab really ugly and Mike isn't

615
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: out of the picture yet. He's not working for anybody

616
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Speaker 1: right now, but he came on Colin Coward Show a

617
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Speaker 1: week goinges like I'd love to be a consultant for Kyle,

618
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: like Kyle on his own merit is great, and a

619
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Speaker 1: lot of places would be like welcoming to Mike Shanahan.

620
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Speaker 1: He's got years of experience and he's a brilliant football mind.

621
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Speaker 1: Other places might be like, we don't want Mike Shanahan

622
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Speaker 1: we want Kyle Shanahan. So this is the fascinating inter

623
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Speaker 1: dramatics of all that. There could be some teams worried

624
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Speaker 1: about helicopter to head. I wouldn't even say helicopter that.

625
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Speaker 1: I would say that one parent at the soccer game.

626
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Speaker 1: This is breathing down the soccer coach Kyle and Kyle

627
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Speaker 1: to his christ son, Kyle to his credit, was was

628
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Speaker 1: was you know he went to Houston without Mike Shanhan,

629
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Speaker 1: He went to Cleveland without He's coaching in Atlanta for

630
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Speaker 1: the last two years without Mike Shanahan, and yet there's

631
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Speaker 1: this presence of people fearing his father somehow playing a role.

632
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Speaker 1: It's it is like high schools. Let me say something

633
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: about Kyle and I only spent a small amount of

634
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: time with him in Cleveland before they released me. I

635
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: went to his office, he got the air some ones

636
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: on unlace baggy shorts. If I didn't know him, I

637
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: would think he was just another player on the squad.

638
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: He talked to me real casual, laid back in his

639
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: seat seat halfway reclown. He's like, look, nay, listen, we

640
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: just gotta get these young guys on board. And if

641
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: they if they listen to me. I'll promise you just

642
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: listen to me. If they listen to me, this offense

643
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: will get Rolland I know my offensive work and it's

644
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: like a casual conversation. I would have one of my

645
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: homeboys and I looked at him. I was like, damn,

646
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: I believe. And then he fast forward. He wants out

647
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: of Cleveland. He's on a contract. He gets out of

648
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland by himself, which is crazy. We don't talk about

649
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: that often. Coaches don't usually just walk out the door

650
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: without something happening. He had another couple of years on

651
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: his Cleveland deal and he went to them and Mike

652
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: Petting and him, Mike pet with the head coach. They

653
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: weren't seeing eye to eye, and he basically said, just

654
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: let me out of my deal. I don't need to

655
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: be paid out, just let me out. And they said,

656
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: well you're under kit He's like, He's like, I'm willing

657
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: to go and make no money. That fuss just fire me,

658
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: like getting rid of me, betting on themselves, and sure enough,

659
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: Atlanta within minutes it was like, yeah, we'll take care

660
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: that a gangster move right there. I have to ask

661
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: you guys, because Nate, you obviously, we know you were

662
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: in the league a long time, but Kyle, you also

663
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: played four years of college football. You were running back.

664
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: So my question is about coaches. Like when I watched

665
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak yesterday, I got emotional watching it. How often

666
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: do you see that side? Is it? Do you only

667
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: see like the you know, not the militant but the

668
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, the hardcore coaching side. How often in your

669
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: I guess past, do you see not maybe not the tears,

670
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: but the choked up and said I would, I would

671
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: assume it's quite a bit, just because it's such an

672
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: emotionally charged roller coaster game. Right all the time I

673
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: met Nate, you know, you played with a lot of

674
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: guys all the time. The thing we used to have

675
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: is too is we'd have this one a linebacker coach,

676
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: coach lifer forty years and his name was Don Dobs,

677
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: and he recruited me to come to Princeton. And before

678
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: every single game, there's always a period, I don't care

679
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: what level of football it is, if it's junior high

680
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: or if it's a super Bowl, there's always a period

681
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: of that ten minutes before you go out, you know,

682
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: and you're with your teammates and you're in the pads,

683
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: and you know the hide of emotional, right, and it's saying,

684
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: all right, everybody out at three fifteen? What about three

685
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: or five? It's written on that markerboard, three fifteen. Everybody's out,

686
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: So about three or five, like the barker start barking.

687
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: There's always like four or five of them in every team.

688
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: Usually it's like a middle linebacker or sometimes like in

689
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: your case, States wide receiver. It's the guys will start

690
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: staying stuff like let's go, let's go, this is our days.

691
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: So and so Don Dobe is my linebacker coach. He

692
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: would stand on the sideline and watch the whole room,

693
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: and as the guys started screaming and the guy start

694
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: getting emotional, he would just sob. He would stand in

695
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: the corner and his shoulders would shake. This a guy

696
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: has been sob because he looked at us as like

697
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: his sons, and he coached us so hard, and he

698
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: recruited many of us, and we knew the risk we're

699
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: putting our bodies in. And he would always look up

700
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: and then he'd put his sunglasses on and try to

701
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: hide it. But by the time we were seniors would

702
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: be like, Yo, check out Coach DoBeS and he was

703
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: always sobbing. It's just the emotion of it. And I'd

704
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: go to war for that guy to war, and I

705
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: always would make sure to look at him before we

706
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: went out because the fact that Coach DoBeS was crying

707
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: minute so much to him. And this is his life

708
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: and he's made guys already, he's got his money, he's

709
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 1: got locked in, but he cared so much about us

710
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: and he's been through so many classes JITs, he's still crying.

711
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: So it's funny because you think after the game or

712
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: when you lose or when you win, but before the

713
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: game there's so much emotion too that that was almost unpressent.

714
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: So the Kubiak obviously, yet he's been to the mountaintop

715
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: with these guys. He's a lifer, he played quarterback and

716
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: now he's walking away from the game extremely emotional. I've

717
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: seen it a lot, and you think it's not rare.

718
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: You just don't see it that much at the press conference. Yeah,

719
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: So me, I spend the majority of my time in

720
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: that emotional space because I felt like that was the

721
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: one way I can always ensure that I gave like

722
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: everything to the game, my complete heart, my complete soul,

723
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: and get lost in the moment. And I think it

724
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: all kind of came full circle when I got released

725
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: by Detroit. It's my final year. I was going into

726
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: the last year my deal, and I went in. I

727
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: was dapping up all the coaches, and every single coach

728
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: had like a small story. Lenahan was saying, you know,

729
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: the first time I saw Calvin Johnson show emotion was

730
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: your second year here and you were with him and

731
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: the head coach, Jim Schwartz saying, I appreciate it. Every

732
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: time I needed you to get the defense going, you

733
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: were willing to put yourself on the line, getting a

734
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: fight just to make sure practice win the right to wexing.

735
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: And then I was talking to Cavallero, who is now

736
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: the assistant wide receiver's coach with the Dallas Cowboys, and

737
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: Kyle said, hey, man, i'm a mission. I'm gonna miss

738
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. You don't miss the pregame speeches.

739
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss the zip them up. So I'm gonna

740
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: miss all the stuff that you did and talked about.

741
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: It came from the heart. But the one thing that

742
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: will always stand out is your pre game and it's

743
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: the exact moment that Kyle's talking about, right before you

744
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: go on the field. And I was like, what are

745
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: you talking about? He said, Well, you spend the whole

746
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: morning of the game getting everybody else hype, Like I

747
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: know you took the responsibility of doing that, but then

748
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: right before you went out, you would getting your headphones

749
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: and you play certain songs you played and you would

750
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: kind of disappear like you'd be in the middle of

751
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: the locker room, but nobody else would be there. It'd

752
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: be just you know. I'm like, how did you know that?

753
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: He said, because like halfway through the song, you would

754
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: get goosebumps. He said, I would watch you every single time.

755
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: You never knew I was watching you. He said, I

756
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: would see your eyes get watery, and then I was

757
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: my eyesa get watery, and I realized, like, once you

758
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: did that, once you goosebumps, I would get goosebumps, and

759
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: I knew that our team was ready. And I was like,

760
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I didn't know he did that, but that

761
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: was me. Right before the game, I lock out and

762
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: I just almost envisioned myself being on stage a loan

763
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: like okay, I gave everybody else everything now signing to

764
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: get yourself going, and that was me. So when I

765
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: was able to give that to the team, I got

766
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: that from the coaches and I think every single coach,

767
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: Jim Moore, Junior, Mike Tice, Lenahan, Jim Schwartz, everybody even

768
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: petting for that smart he was the emotional guy. The

769
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: only guy that wasn't overly emotional was Mike Hongre And

770
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: I think I talked about a little bit ago. He

771
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily want me in Seattle. It's very hard on

772
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: me and I probably was that one guy that came

773
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: from Minnesota and didn't do things the way he wanted.

774
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: So I had some adjusting to do and I just thought, Man,

775
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: this guy hates me. And for a while I had

776
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: this like almost like strained relationship with him. Fast forward

777
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: me being in Detroit. We're playing against Cleveland. When he

778
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: was gym there. One of the guys come and say, hey, Mike,

779
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: hon gonna talk to him. Like what, I'm like, he's

780
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: the gym, what is he doing sideline? He's like, oh,

781
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: he's he Actually he hurt his legs, so he's like

782
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: in a scooter, but he wants to talk to you

783
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: something like what. So I go down and Homer was like, hey, um,

784
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you I really appreciate what

785
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: you're doing. And Detroit, he said, you know, since you

786
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: left Seattle, you've been a tremendous leader. You've been one

787
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: of the guys that I've always kept on and I

788
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: enjoyed coaching you. And it was a weird moment because

789
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: I never I never got a warm and fuzzy moment

790
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: with him, never. And you know, I got a father,

791
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't have that that you know,

792
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: I need a man's approval. But in that moment, it

793
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: was like a father that never paid attention to him

794
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: saying I see you. And I wapped him up and

795
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: he was just like, just good luck with the rest

796
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: of your career. And like that meant the world to me,

797
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: you know, because I thought to myself, it wasn't that

798
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: he wasn't emotional. He was just an old school coach,

799
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: so his approach was differently. Maybe he was emotional, it's

800
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: just that his delivery wasn't the same as my mother coaches.

801
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: I would just say, you know, the press content was

802
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: a great story. Rex. You know, his boystreous in the

803
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: press conference and Adam Gates has this intense look and

804
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: you see Nick Saban does they look at if you decide,

805
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: am I going to get the Koubiak treatment out of him?

806
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: That I saw, Yes, you're probably not right. Yeah, And

807
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, and that's a great point.

808
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: Jim Caldwell and Tony Dungee are two of the most

809
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: respected and beloved coaches and players go to war for

810
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: those guys and they're the nicest guy. So every coach

811
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: is a different style. Jim Caldwell, I'm told, can be

812
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: a real fireplug, can be a real spark. I can

813
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: get in guy's heads. And you see him on the sidelines,

814
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: it looks like, is there anyone home? So, I mean,

815
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: you've talked about Adam Gase today, we've adod I do.

816
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't know much about he lights into this guy.

817
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: So like Adam Gase when they you know, he didn't

818
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: bring Jagi Eleek one because he wasn't happy with it.

819
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: Like jobs are on the line, there's always high stakes.

820
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: I would say this not knowing what's going on in

821
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: Adam's head right now. Leading into the playoff game, everyone's

822
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: talking about the Steelers. I bet you those Dolphins players

823
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: are petrified of Wednesday practice for how they played on Sunday.

824
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: Still like they're gonna show up and it's not gonna

825
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: belle so much adversity every step of the way, so many.

826
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Adam, all I know about him is that

827
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: Cutler was great on Sunday. He was in forget the upset.

828
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if Gays cut a couple of

829
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: guys this week based on how they played on Sunday.

830
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: That was such an egg And I did not expect

831
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: it from the Dolphins against the Patriots, knowing what they

832
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: have done all season. It's been you gotta be held accountable.

833
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: I can't imagine him just saying, yeah, who cares it

834
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: was Week seventeen. I thought you he's pissed. Dolphins at Steelers, Uh,

835
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean, any chance the Steelers lose this game, guys, Yeah,

836
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: there's a chance to mend the heels of what Peter

837
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: was saying, like, Adam Gas is gonna have these guys

838
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: fired up. Don't be surprised if Miami comes out and

839
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: hits the Steelers in the mouth. This is a heavyweight belt.

840
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: And if I'm you know, having an understanding of what

841
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Adam Gas is like, He's probably going in taking every

842
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: piece of bulletin board material, everything that we're saying on TV,

843
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: all the hype about the Steelers and saying, listen, do

844
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: you guys hear this? Like you guys made the damn playoffs?

845
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: You guys have earned this right just like everybody else.

846
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: So what are you going to do about it? You

847
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: tell your guy? Is that enough for the next three days.

848
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: They're gonna be pissed off by the time they walk

849
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: on the field. So I wouldn't be surprised if the

850
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: Steelers jump out to a good start. I mean, the

851
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: Dolphins jump out to a good start. But you know,

852
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: also have faith in the Steelers because they have so

853
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: much talent on the field. I can't even they're going.

854
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: I gotta give it to the Steelers. Yeah, we talked

855
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: about that room too many weapons, No, they do that.

856
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: I love the report. I mentioned on the show today

857
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: that I was watching Total Access and A. D. Kinkobala

858
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: was reporting live. She's an NFL network from the Steelers,

859
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: and we love her. We love add She's great, She's

860
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: so good on TV. Such a cool name. And she

861
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: was asked by the anchor I hear a few of

862
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: the Steelers they wanted the Dolphins because if the way

863
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: it went, she goes, no, no, no, they all wanted

864
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: the Dolphins because you're the Pittsburgh Steelers. The terrible tie

865
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: of the Steel curtain. No one's supposed to hang. You

866
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: can't do that was that is the brand, terrible paperwel brand.

867
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: They're like, we gotta get this to like redeem our manhood,

868
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: whatever the hell you want to call it. They wanted them,

869
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: They got them. Now, don't get run over again. Yeah,

870
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: all right, let's go back to Saturday Rays at Texans.

871
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: Is there an X factor or anything you guys are

872
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: particularly watching in this game? A dog? Yeah, but see,

873
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: I like it. It's different. It's a great question because

874
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: of the wilds. Well, first of all, I like it

875
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: because I can watch NFL football on Saturday and drink

876
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: and be hungover on Sunday. That's just the superficial take

877
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: a photo. No, I won't take a I don't do that.

878
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: You know what my New Years resolutions? No? No, but

879
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: I like watching NFL ball on Saturday. I don't care

880
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: what it is. And we've talked at nauseam about Bengal

881
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: Christmas and it's over this year, but we still have

882
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: that Texans Saturday afternoon game. I like something different. I

883
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: liked to to you know, we know we're gonna get

884
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: to the Giants and the Packers on Sunday. It's probably

885
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: gonna be great. But the idea of watching this, I'll

886
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: just say it, this shit storm of these who the

887
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: hell are these guys quarterbacks being played in a playoff game? Now,

888
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: this seems like a preseason game. We have to google

889
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: the guy and he's trying to make the last cut.

890
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: I just think, look, I don't think it's gonna be

891
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: a great game. I think it's gonna be thirteen to nine.

892
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: But I'm tuning into all these people like this is

893
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: the worst game ever. I'm not watching it. Yes you are, Yeah,

894
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: yes you are. If you watch Ryan Lindley versus Cam

895
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: Newton a couple of years ago, and if you watch

896
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: t J. Yates a few years ago, you're watching this.

897
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: You're watching this, and it's almost like it's not a

898
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: half measure. If they give us an air and F,

899
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 1: it's not the backup. It's like the backups, backup. They're

900
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: giving us an F on the roster. But I'm very

901
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: excited for this game just because it's gonna be so odd.

902
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: I love the unknown. I'm with KB. I don't know

903
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: what to expect from this game. I don't know what

904
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: to expect from these quarterbacks. And this is a position

905
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: that two guys are going to be in that could

906
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: be the biggest game over their lifetime. They're just gonna

907
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: run the ball. Maybe they do run over. I get

908
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: what you're saying. You can't run the ball the whole game.

909
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: At some point they got to drop back and throw it, Hurt.

910
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: That's going to be so exciting when he drops back

911
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: and throws the ball, whether it's McGowan, Cook, I think

912
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: Cook's gonna help Savage Ah Swyler, Like, I'm excited to

913
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: see the guy drop back, and I want to know

914
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: how the ball is delivered, if it's gonna hit the target, Like,

915
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen after that? Connor Cook was thirty five

916
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: and four at Michigan Stadium. Is a four year starter.

917
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: I do the draft stuff for Fox, and I had

918
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people in my ear being like Connor

919
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: Cook might be a late first round pick. Later now,

920
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: Connor Cook had what you mentioned, and I'm gonna say

921
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: it like it is. He had a helicopter dad involved

922
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: with the whole thing, and he was kind of a punk.

923
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: And some of these meetings on Twitter. That was on Twitter,

924
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: that was tweeting a lot. Now, that was one thing

925
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: he was also and Cook came to these meetings and

926
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: apparently thought he was a big man on campus with

927
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: a lot of these teams. He rubbed people the wrong way.

928
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: He's gotten to Oakland. I talked to the people in Oakland.

929
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: He's been nothing but a great third string quarterback. Now

930
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: he's never played with the first stringers during practice. He's

931
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: never played, so there's not a comfort there. But he's

932
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: won big ten championship games. He's beaten Iowa when everyone

933
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: was on Iowa, every beaten Wisconsin when everyone was always Connor.

934
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: Cook is a winner in big stage games. And I

935
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked if he showed up and made a

936
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: couple of plays on this one. What's Deandrew Hopkins gonna

937
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: look like in this one? Well, I keep thinking about

938
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: with Oswald every DeAndre Hopkins is in the league. I mean,

939
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: he's had a couple of good games recently with Savage, Right,

940
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: I wish I loved anything in life as much as

941
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: brock Osweatherer like throwing to c J F door with

942
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: just anything after that polish last game. How about Lion Seahawks?

943
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: And this is the most exciting game I think out

944
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: of the weekend because you got two quarterbacks that are

945
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: elite and have done some good things this year. But

946
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: to be honest, if they're animals, you're talking about a

947
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: Lion and a Seahawks, they're both wounded animals. You look

948
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: at it, you know what they've lost this year and

949
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: what they can't do, specifically the running game. They got

950
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: some talented to wide receiver position and Doug ballwin. He

951
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: can break off one eighty game like it's nothing. Jimmy

952
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: Graham is going to make a big play, Marvin Jones

953
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: sometimes he's great sometimes. Or did they even have a

954
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: shot in this one? I believe they do. And it's

955
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: for me, it's who's gonna show up in Seattle? What

956
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: Seattle team is gonna show up? Because I feel like

957
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: we're still waiting, you know, we're still waiting for this

958
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: dominant Seattle team to show up, like we've been waiting

959
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: all year. But you've said it, you said it. They

960
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: don't show if we know what they are what they

961
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: are they are. So if we're waiting for this dominant

962
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: you're saying, do they have a shot? Are we given

963
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: the twelfth Man that much power that they're gonna the

964
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: fans are gonna beat the last On our good Morning

965
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: Football show today, nine playoff wins at home in a row.

966
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: Russell and Pete have never lost a playoff game at home. Yeah,

967
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: I am. I don't think the Lions. I might be wrong.

968
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: I think it's been since like fifty seven, you're mister Lion. Mister,

969
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: it's like Bobby Lane was the quarterbacks since since they

970
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: won a road playoff. This is the hardest one, will

971
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: be the closest game, But neither team. I have no

972
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: idea who I would think, neither team, because I think

973
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: it's gonna might be a blowout. Really yeah, Like I

974
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: feel like the Seahawks could could win by four touchdowns.

975
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: They could get ugly, they could and they could. I

976
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: just feel like they got their backs broken last week.

977
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: The potentially they got their backs broken. It was Mufassa

978
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: falling into the wildebeest, and now they got to get

979
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: up and they got to climb back up. Home or

980
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: not home there's still a big roller coaster they are.

981
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: I mean the middle of the third defense. Last time

982
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: were home, they lost to the Cardinals. We're playing for nothing.

983
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's been in a lot of big games. He's

984
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: plays a lot better opponents than these Lions. I hope

985
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: the lines give it a shot. I think they could

986
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: get blown out in this one. That's the only game

987
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: I see there could be a blowout in the main

988
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: event game of the week. Guys, Giants, Packers. I think

989
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: I think it's exciting because I want them both in

990
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: the main event. Is the Kadams blind at him? It's

991
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: coming up. I think we all know that. I think

992
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: we've gone We've talked about it enough and if you're listening,

993
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: you've done enough. An elsis in this game. I would

994
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: just say that the winner goes to Dallas. Most likely,

995
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: unless Seattle drops the ball, the winner goes to Dallas.

996
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: To me, this is a fun run for either Eli

997
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: or Aaron Rodgers, a fun two week span of win

998
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: this one and then you go into the belly of

999
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: the Beast where all of America has been waiting for

1000
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: this Cowboys team to be crowned. You gotta get past

1001
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: this one first, but this is like the uh what

1002
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: is it like? There's like the appetite to the entree

1003
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: of that game, and then you gotta win the NFCA

1004
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: champions I know I'll get some flak for this, but

1005
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: the Giants win this game, they'll lose to Dallas. It's

1006
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: hard to beat a team three times in a row.

1007
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: And I know everybody so well, they got the recipe

1008
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: and they got the blueprint to beat the Cowboys. No,

1009
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will be ready and I feel like they'll

1010
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: play their best game. They'll be the Giants Packers go

1011
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: into Jerry's world. Yeah, I believe Aaron Rodgers can spoil

1012
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: their season. That's the outcome of this game. So I

1013
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: don't know how this game is going to turn out.

1014
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm more concerned with the winner and that winner going

1015
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: into Jerry's world. And only you did the best hypothetical

1016
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: in the air. Okay, if you are a Cowboys fan,

1017
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: it's been a dream season. It's this is this is Hollywood.

1018
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: We got all these cool rookies and the coach is

1019
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: working and everything's working. Who do you want to see

1020
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: come into your house? Jared? What do you want to

1021
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: see Eli's beating you twice or do you want to

1022
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: see crazy crazy a Eli because you probably can't win

1023
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: three times. Yeah, maybe that's my opinion. Your dream is

1024
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 1: that Matt Stafford finds a way to beat Russell Wilson

1025
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: and then you get Stafford. Now if that's not happening,

1026
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Rodgers. Is that the dream though? Because

1027
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: beat it injure itself. Brady's laughing right now? Wait, Connor,

1028
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: who who is this guy gonna be playing in Fox bro?

1029
00:43:54,760 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: What you know? Brady does that handsome man laugh? That's

1030
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: him looking at the FC playoffs? Well, great stuff, guys.

1031
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: Let me think here. Okay, you you got thirty more sex.

1032
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: So we've done this now four times. This is chapter

1033
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: four of four where one of us tells a story

1034
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: about this. He's the best one, you got, whatever you got,

1035
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: He'll probably go around have horn. And so you think

1036
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: one of us has a run in with a celebrity

1037
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: of any walk of life, and there's a story we

1038
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: have about them. We never reveal who the celebrity is

1039
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: who we ran into, But sometimes the story is not

1040
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: very flattering. Sometimes it's entertaining, very very quickly. I ran

1041
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: into a quarterback who's going on to a TV show

1042
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: I used to work on, who was really hammered and

1043
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: admitted to me Nates was offered booze by teammates by

1044
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: a coach and wait to explain yes. And then Peter

1045
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: ran into an athlete, a former professional athlete who he

1046
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: was in the next hotel room from this performer professional

1047
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: athlete and heard him having a hell of a night

1048
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: and all night fracis proving the Big Bang theory and

1049
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: that bring kay. Yeah, I'll go really old school. When

1050
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: I was young and reckless and running around, I went

1051
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: to a concert at it was like called Jones Beach.

1052
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Speaker 1: I didn't even live in New York or anywhere. In concert,

1053
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Speaker 1: I can't tell you alcohol about okay, alcohol Jones Beach. Okay, Really,

1054
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: I was very drunk. I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Who you were with? No, no, no, So I'm sitting

1056
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Speaker 1: on the lawn. I don't know who the group was.

1057
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It was like a bunch of different

1058
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Speaker 1: bands performance. They're naked ladies, whatever it was. I was like,

1059
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Speaker 1: I don't even know what this is. I'm here for

1060
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: the good time. I was there with my friends Mona

1061
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: and Lisa, and they're twins. They're awesome. They're on next

1062
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Week search on Instagram right now. It's hard about them.

1063
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Speaker 1: They never smile. It's like almost smiling. No, they're always smiling.

1064
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: They're wonder don't know which where they're looking. So we're

1065
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: sitting on the lawn, minding our own business, having a

1066
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: great time, and all of a sudden, like a guy

1067
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: comes up. I just got the headset, like you know.

1068
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: He's like, were part of the crew, and he's like, hey, girls,

1069
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: want to come backstage? Was like okay, absolutely, Like uh

1070
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: and so he's like I'm really over here. Whatever. We

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Speaker 1: go back. I have no idea where how we found

1072
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Speaker 1: us or whatever. I was like too young to even

1073
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Speaker 1: understand like that that was the thing that people do

1074
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Speaker 1: at concerts and you know, get girls backstage whatever, and

1075
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you. So we go backstage and this

1076
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Speaker 1: guy like leaves us by where all the tour buses

1077
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: are and he's like, I'll be right back. I don't

1078
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: know what he was doing or whatever. Gave us a

1079
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: bottle of Jack Daniels and there's a whole nunch of

1080
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: this I'll be back, and we're like what's happening. We

1081
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: we run away and when we've been telling this. We

1082
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: run away because I'm like I'm not waiting for this loser,

1083
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: like audio, why what is this? We go and uh,

1084
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: we're running around backstage find ourselves. Of course takes the

1085
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: bottle with us. It's the three of us were we

1086
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: find ourselves in like a back room, backstage whatever. There's

1087
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: like a couple of people in there. We just were

1088
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: like acqueuben here, equacuben here. All of a sudden, a

1089
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: guy walks in. He's wearing like a pink shirt that's

1090
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: all I remember, with a pattern on an older gentleman.

1091
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: He you know, he sits down with us. He just

1092
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: talked like we tell he was a big deal, but

1093
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: didn't know who who it was. He's We started like

1094
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: taking taking shots of Jack Daniels with them. He actually,

1095
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: I think he thinks we're like the makeup people. We're

1096
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: talking to him, like where the makeup people? I have

1097
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: no idea, not even like I'm trying to put you

1098
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: get their context clues with like who this guy is.

1099
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: He ends up like going on and performing. We watched

1100
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Speaker 1: him from the you know, from the side for a

1101
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Speaker 1: second and then like go back to the lawn. So

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Speaker 1: that was it. So I like hung out with this

1103
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Speaker 1: guy for like an hour, and I'm not gonna tell

1104
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: you who it was, but okay, I will tell you

1105
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: that Nate would never know who this person was. Oh okay,

1106
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: So rock and roll, white rock and rolls, right, rock

1107
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: star and he's on a ticket with other guys. So

1108
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: it's not a huge band. It's like a name. He's

1109
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: a big name lead singer of a band. We probably

1110
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: for an hour, like he was out of his mind

1111
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: talking to us about you know, like about being on

1112
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Speaker 1: tour and whatever. We're like, yeah, I mean, he like

1113
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: barely asked us who we were, what we were doing there.

1114
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Speaker 1: We like this Chad Kroeger from Nickel right, remember like

1115
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: Ramon at least like taking like pears and apples and

1116
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: putting it in their person all right, free pair? Does

1117
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: he have a song called living on a Prayer? A

1118
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: song stealing a pair? That should be the questions have

1119
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: to stop. We're not allowed the questions question. So what

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Speaker 1: does look like? Anyway? That's it? Anybody else have any

1121
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Speaker 1: last last minute things to say? No, I love you guys,

1122
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: I love the show, and I love everyone who's downloading

1123
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: the pod, But you give love a bad name. Though,

1124
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,400
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1125
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,839
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00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,960
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1127
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Speaker 1: Hit us up, let us know what you want us

1128
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: to talk about so we can talk about it. You

1129
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: can find the Brols at the restaurant Catch in New

1130
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Speaker 1: York setting. I double up often. I like tables, tables,

1131
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Speaker 1: ruffle spaghetti. Was it delicious? Okay? Killed it? Absolutely? Hit

1132
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Speaker 1: the spot, and we make it a regular thing, like

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Speaker 1: maybe once more. Absolutely, you should be like slowing down

1134
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Speaker 1: on your extra jobs because she is right there if

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Speaker 1: I need you to, like, drop one job so you

1136
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Speaker 1: can spend time with your real family, okay, because I

1137
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Speaker 1: don't like all these extra families. You're having these affairs

1138
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Speaker 1: with old TV. Where have the family? He has other

1139
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Speaker 1: men that she sees you, you guys at seven am

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