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Speaker 1: Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: and I love all things tech and today I have

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Speaker 1: something extra special for all of you listeners out there.

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Speaker 1: My good friend Ariel Casting has joined the show. Say hi, Ariel, Hi, Ariel. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and I'll give you a better introduction a second. So,

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Speaker 1: Ariel and I have just launched a new podcast, released

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Speaker 1: an old podcast. That's a new version of an old

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Speaker 1: podcast called Large Nerdron Collider, which we will talk about

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Speaker 1: more at the end of this episode. But I thought

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Speaker 1: it might be fun to bring Ariel onto my show.

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Speaker 1: It is not her first appearance on Tech Stuff. No,

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Speaker 1: we've talked about steganography and about our marine weapons before,

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Speaker 1: so I feel like what we're gonna talk about today

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Speaker 1: is a little bit of a revisit. Yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about science fiction and speculative fiction. Some of the

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Speaker 1: stuff we'll talk about, you could argue, really falls more

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Speaker 1: into the realm of fantasy than science fiction, but that

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Speaker 1: all kind of gets lumped under the category speculative fiction. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about some of the stuff that

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Speaker 1: appears like the popular stuff that appears in speculative fiction,

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Speaker 1: and then talk about what if any corollaries there are

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Speaker 1: in the real world. Uh, and if we see any

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Speaker 1: technologies that are kind of like the baby version of

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Speaker 1: the stuff we see in sci fi, or if we

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Speaker 1: are leagues away from light years away, you might say,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, and also we did, like we made an

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Speaker 1: outline for this that we thought at first was you know, modest.

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Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, it blew up. So we are going

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Speaker 1: to go through as much of this as we can,

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Speaker 1: but we're not going to turn this into a marathon

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Speaker 1: length episode. We don't even know how long this is

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Speaker 1: going to go. It may turn out that this will

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Speaker 1: be a two parter and I'll have Aerial back for

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Speaker 1: part two. We don't we haven't recorded it yet, so

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Speaker 1: the time travel spoiler alert doesn't really work. So I

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Speaker 1: can't tell you how long it's going to be until

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Speaker 1: we do it. Yeah, we could go back and insert something,

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Speaker 1: but that's not really time travel. That's work. See, that's

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Speaker 1: not time travel, that's just work. And I hate work,

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Speaker 1: you know me. So one of the things we wanted

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Speaker 1: to chat about first is the role of technology in

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Speaker 1: science fiction because obviously, you know, the two tend to

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Speaker 1: go hand in hand, right. We tend to think of

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Speaker 1: of science fiction and technology being integral to one another.

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Speaker 1: That if you don't have at least some version of

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Speaker 1: of high tech in your science fiction, it's not really

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Speaker 1: science fiction. Uh yeah, but I would I would say

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Speaker 1: that to me, good science fiction starts with the story,

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Speaker 1: the characters and the situations that they are in and

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Speaker 1: how they handle those situations, whether for good or for ill,

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Speaker 1: and that all the tech stuff, not the podcast, but

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Speaker 1: the stuff what is tech, is sort of window dressing

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Speaker 1: for that story. And that when storytellers take the inverse

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Speaker 1: backseat to it, I think of that as what I

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Speaker 1: like to call bad science fiction. I tend to agree

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Speaker 1: with you, Jonathan. I mean, there are occasions where I

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Speaker 1: think that just the this scientific technology, the fantastical technology,

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Speaker 1: It might be a potato chip movie, but it can

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Speaker 1: be fun just to watch that. Pacific Rim is a

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Speaker 1: Yeager's Interact is more of the story. To me, The

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Speaker 1: And there is something to say about you know, spectacle, right,

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Speaker 1: Like spectacle can be entertaining. If it weren't, then we

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Speaker 1: And we're not talking about necessarily a specific example here,

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Speaker 1: of science fiction weaponry. Right, It's like the pep laser

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Speaker 1: But physics has has slowed that down. Like you you've

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Speaker 1: it's an electrochemical process. You can't make it do more

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Speaker 1: also I can't wait to hear it. But first, let's

430
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: take a quick break. Okay, so I've been waiting. I'm

431
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: not going to hit you with it. I throw it

432
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: at you. Is that better. So there's this device called

433
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: a weirding module. And this is a real corner case one,

434
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: but I know it's one that you liked because you

435
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: like done. It is in the movie version of Dune,

436
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: not the book version of Dune, mainly because the director

437
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: of the movie version did not want to have Kung

438
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: Fu on sand for his movie, so he replaced the

439
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: Betty Jesser at Martial Art the weird Ing Way with

440
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: the Weirding Module, which is a sonic sound based weapon

441
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: uh that uses specific sound turns specific sounds into attacks.

442
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: For instance, the name of the hero in the story

443
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: what dbs as as in a you know, we get

444
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: the tradees uh freeman name yes, yes uh. And so

445
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: in the books they do use some some sonic technology

446
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: in the later books for detecting people underground and crowd

447
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: control and things like that. But what about this this

448
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: sonic weapon that can that can break rocks that can

449
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: break Because in the scene where they first show it

450
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: off the the protagonist has one of these and the

451
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: modules look really weird too. There are these things that

452
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: mount on like the hand. It doesn't look like you know,

453
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: it's not like a gun shape. Um. But he uses

454
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: it to destroy a a an obelisk of rock after

455
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: other people have uh kicked it, punched it and tried

456
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: to cut it and then yelled at it. Um. And

457
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: then he shows, I mean when I kick in punch rocks,

458
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't do much either, right, So he he uses

459
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: it to show that that it can convert the sound

460
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: of his voice into a something powerful enough to shatter

461
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: the rock um And just as a little side note

462
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: about the martial arts thing, you know the martial arts

463
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: in the book, It allows people to essentially teleport very

464
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: short distances, they can move faster than they would physically

465
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: be able to, and appear on a different part of

466
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: a person and punch them. And Lynch did not know

467
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: how he could possibly pull that off and make it

468
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: look good in the post matrix world. Uh, I think

469
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: it's entirely possible. So I suspect we'll see that in

470
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: the upcoming movie. I I suspect so as well. You

471
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: haven't watched the trailer for it, but I haven't seen

472
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: that in the trailer I have seen. I've seen teasers.

473
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: Maybe I haven't seen the specific trailer that that. So

474
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: there's a trailer that shows the weirding way. There's a

475
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: trailer that shows somebody's head or hand or some part

476
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: of their body vibrating at like a ridiculous speed. I'm

477
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: gesturing like you can all see it on audio, but

478
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: I can tell you that she was, in fact making

479
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: her hand vibrate faster than the I can see, uh,

480
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: largely because her web. So the weirding module using sonic

481
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: signals as a weapon. This is not that far off

482
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 1: from things that we actually have. We do not have

483
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: anything that could shatter a rock obelisk like instantaneously through sound. However, Uh,

484
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: sound is a physical phenomenon. So when we hear sounds,

485
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: what we're hearing are there's fluctuations in air pressure, and

486
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: those fluctuations affect our ear drums, and then we we

487
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: interpret that we experienced that as sound. Right, so we're

488
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: all we're talking about vibrations. So you are talking about

489
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: stuff moving and while that stuff is just air, and

490
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: air has very low mass, you get enough air moving

491
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: that low that you know, enough of it is enough

492
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: to do massive things. Otherwise tornadoes wouldn't be a problem, right,

493
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean air can air can do some serious damage

494
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: if it's moving powerfully enough and there's enough of it. Uh.

495
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: That being said, the something that's directed as that would

496
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: be very difficult to do. But you can create directed

497
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: beams of acoustic energy, and in fact, we do have

498
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: materials that do this UM and they have been used

499
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: in weapons. The long range Acoustic device or l RAD

500
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: is an example of that that was developed by the military.

501
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: The original purpose was to outfit naval ships with these

502
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: what what amounts to a very powerful, very directed speaker,

503
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: and you can point the speaker at a target, and

504
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: because of the way the sound waves emerge from the

505
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: speaker uses the special approach where the center of the

506
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: speaker is very much directed at a target and the

507
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: outside of the speaker puts a an out of phase

508
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: sound signal to keep the central part focused. So it's

509
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: almost like a laser, you can. You know, usually sound

510
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: waves spread out from their point of origin and they diffuse,

511
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: so it's broadcast. This is more directed, and it was

512
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: originally meant as a way to communicate to another boat

513
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: that is far away that you don't have radio communication with,

514
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: so you can say turn away or whatever. Or you

515
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: can use an alarm and use it as a deterrent,

516
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: because you could use an alarm in the range of

517
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: human hearing, make it really loud, really uncomfortable, pointed at

518
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: say a boat of pirates, and deter them from coming

519
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: towards a ship. And we have since seen various police

520
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: forces outfitted with these as well and have used them,

521
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: uh to um notorious effect on things like protests for

522
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: a method of crowd dispersal. But the problem is that

523
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: these l red devices can can put out sound at

524
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: a decibel level high enough to ruptu your ear drumps,

525
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: and if you are in the direct path, it can

526
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: be enough not just to burst your ear drumps, which

527
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: means you're deaf, it can also cause disorientation and nausea

528
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: and and I mean some severe health effects. So while

529
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 1: we don't have a sonic weapon capable of breaking you know,

530
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: a statue just by blasting some sound at it in

531
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: a second, we do have things that can do some

532
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: pretty serious damage. And if you tune a sound wave

533
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: to the resonant frequency of a substance, meaning that when

534
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: the sound hits it, it's hitting it at a frequency

535
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: that the substance naturally already vibrates that then it'll start

536
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: to amplify that vibration. You can make a sub since

537
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: break apart that way. That's how we see like opera

538
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: singers breaking crystal glasses. It's the same sort of idea,

539
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: but again, uh, it's a little more complicated than wearing

540
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: a glove and humming in it and having it blasts

541
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: apart of rock. Yeah, it makes sense that l rads

542
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: can can cause some damage to people because when I

543
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: punch and kick people, not that I do, that causes

544
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: damage more than me punching and kicking rocks. Um, So

545
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: it seems like doing is the closest to reality as

546
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: far as projectile weapons. But I'm going to go back

547
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: to Star Wars because they're losing so far in the

548
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: reality Wars. This will really help them catch up. So

549
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna veer off from projectile weapons because

550
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: obviously they're losing there. What about handheld weapons, specifically a lightsaber?

551
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: It's a plus. It's a plasma blade, listen, I know,

552
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: powered by a Khaiber crystal which is actually both organic

553
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: and inorganic for anybody who doesn't know, which is probably

554
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: like two people to the force as well and and

555
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: attuned to the force. Yeah, so if you're the dark Side,

556
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: you can force it to do your will, but it

557
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: might make like it might make the crystal bleed, or

558
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: it might make you go insane like Darth Vader had

559
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: crazy visions from it um. And it works in conjunction

560
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: with the power cell and modulation stircuits and an energy

561
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: greate and a blade emitter shroud and in a mitter

562
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: matrix and a hilt activator. So you need the force

563
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: to use it, but you still need a little button

564
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: to activate what the goodness of well, I mean, so

565
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: they're pretty customizable. But is that possible? Uh No? But

566
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: um no, with some No, with some qualifiers. No, with

567
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: some qualifiers, because you can make something that can do

568
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: stuff that a lightsaber can do, but it is not

569
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: a lightsaber in the sense of Star Wars. Now, to

570
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: be fair, Star Wars I think falls into kind of

571
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: a fantasy science fiction. It's it's it's more of a

572
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: fantasy than than hard size fi. Uh. We've already talked

573
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 1: about plasma and how that's an ionized gas and it

574
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: diffuses after a while. But what you can do, um is, well,

575
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: you got a couple of options. There's actually these guys

576
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: that do incredible videos, Hacksmith Industries. I don't know if

577
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: you've ever seen their stuff Aerial Yeah, I have. I

578
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: think I think I know where you're going with this.

579
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: They've got a couple of different versions of lightsabers that

580
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: they have built over the years, and one of them

581
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: involves having a metal rod that that comes out of

582
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: a hilt and then they use a means of heating

583
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: up that metal rod to the point where it's glowing,

584
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: so it's hot enough to cut through stuff. And in

585
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: that case, you're like, well, it glows like a lightsaber.

586
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: It can make contact with another lightsaber like a lightsaber,

587
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: and it can cut through stuff like a lightsaber. And

588
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: it can cauterize like a lightsaber. It can cauterize like

589
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: a lightsaber. That's true. However, it can't extend or retract.

590
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's a it's a solid piece of metal

591
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: um and uh and and you when you turn it off,

592
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: you gotta wait a while before that blade is you know,

593
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: not so hot that it would make wood just burst

594
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: into flame if you touched it to it. So then

595
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: they made one that they called more of a plasma lightsaber.

596
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: I take a little issue with that terminology, but only

597
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: a little. And they used a nozzle so that they

598
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: could inject oxygen and I think propane together to create

599
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: a mixture and they and it lights and it creates

600
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: a very controlled flame that is more or less lightsaber shaped. Um.

601
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: They can even control the color of the lightsaber by

602
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: adding in different stuff into the mixture, because when you

603
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: burn different stuff, you get different colors of flame, right,

604
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: So unlike a lightsaber, where it's the kyber crystal that

605
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: makes the color. The word saber, which I guess could

606
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: be also additives to the crystal. I mean the the

607
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: Sith were known for having synthetic crystals, which were the

608
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: red ones, at least in some versions of Star Wars Lawer. Uh.

609
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: There are a lot of different versions of Star Wars Lawyers,

610
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 1: So it's I don't even know what's cannon anymore. So, um,

611
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, the the the blade that they made was

612
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: I would call it more of a fire than a plasma.

613
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: I mean, granted, it was hot enough where I'm sure

614
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: it was it was a plasma in that sense, but

615
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't like electrified or ionized gas in the sense

616
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: of what a plasma typically would be. But it was

617
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: hot enough to cut through metal. It could uh you know,

618
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: it could extend and retract. The only thing that it

619
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: can't do that a lightsaber can do, as we've seen

620
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: the movies, is if you had two of them and

621
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: you swung about each other. Uh, they would not have

622
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: like made contact, Like you wouldn't have a physical contact

623
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: where you'd feel that feedback they might combine into one

624
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: enormous flame, which would be terrifying, but they would not

625
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: behave as a lightsaber in that sense. Yeah, I know

626
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: that lightsabers can make contact the weapons that lightsabers can

627
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: make contact with, or the items that lightsabers can make

628
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: contact with other than like a certain kind of animal

629
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: and a certain weave of fibers, which are actually used

630
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: another weapons and tools to combat that is energy conducting weapons.

631
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: So it sounds like the weapons that conduct energy are

632
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: the ones that can kind of make contact with the

633
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: lightsaber without just being cut in half. It doesn't sound

634
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: like either of these would be affected at all by now.

635
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: And also, one other thing I was going to mention

636
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: is that I could have allowed, because you know, Star

637
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: Wars has magic, and it's the force, the forces magic, Right,

638
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: I could have allowed that a lightsaber only holds its

639
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: form because of a Jedi using the forced to keep

640
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: the lightsaber in that form, right, Because which is why

641
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: you need the trade, because otherwise it would be the

642
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: other issues that we've had with you. The whole idea

643
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: of plasma is that it blooms so quickly after being

644
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: released unless you have some sort of powerful nozzle to

645
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: keep it in the right shape. However, we know that's

646
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: not the case because Han Solo picks up a lightsaber

647
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: to cut open the belly of a tonton and Han

648
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: Solo does not have a command of the force. So

649
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: we know that you can you can use a lightsaber

650
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: even if you're not a Jedi. Uh, it's just not

651
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: recommended because they're so dangerous. You know, you probably cut

652
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: off your belt loop and your leg. Okay, so not lightsabers.

653
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: But what about vibra weapons, So like vibro swords, vibro blades,

654
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: things like that that use high speed sonic vibrations to

655
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: make a weapon more deadly. Through a vibro generator in

656
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: the hill to it's sense sonic pulses that makes it

657
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: vibrate and kind of like and even though they have

658
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: serrated vibra weapons, it kind of makes it to me

659
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: like the ultimate serrated weapon because it hits you and

660
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: it causes mass destruction because of that vibration. So we

661
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: don't have weapons like this, but we do have tools

662
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: that do this. It's absolutely a viable technology because when

663
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: you think about it, the sonic vibrations, those vibrations, like

664
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: if you think about a tool like a saw. The

665
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: way a saw works is that you drag the saw

666
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 1: back and forth across whatever it is you're cutting, right,

667
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: band saw, handsaw, reciprocating saw, any of those things. Um,

668
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: that that's that. That's that cutting action that can help

669
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: you cut through various materials. A vibrating blade is essentially

670
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: doing a saw motion. It's just doing it in very

671
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: very fast succession, and it's doing very small you know, uh,

672
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: full length motions. It's not going as far out as

673
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: like a band saw, wood or something. Um. We do

674
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: have these. There are ultrasonic knives. These ultrasonic knives are

675
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: typically used for is like crafting. You don't use them

676
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: for attacking enemy soldiers or something. Crafting sounds more fun.

677
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: And also it can be a doggy dog world among crafters.

678
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: I mean, those makers can can get mean. So in

679
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: those cases, it's used for stuff like cutting through rubber

680
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: or plastic, uh not typically the harder materials, but it's

681
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: really good at cutting through softer materials without having to

682
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 1: worry about the blade being super sharp. Like the blade

683
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: needs to be sharp enough to to make a cut,

684
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: but it doesn't have to be like razor sharp in

685
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: order to be effective because the ultrasonic frequencies are providing

686
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: the mechanical action that makes up for a lack of

687
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: sharpness on the part of the weapon or in this case,

688
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: the tool. Now, ultrasonic knives also typically how are connected

689
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: to a base station of some sorts. So you've typically

690
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: got like a a little control station, and then you

691
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: have a wire that goes to the knife and that

692
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: provides the the energy needed to vibrate it. You've got

693
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: a transducer in there, that's what is actually converting electricity

694
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: into the vibrating energy you need to uh to create

695
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: those ultrasonic vibrations. But otherwise, I mean, like the principle

696
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: is sound. Again, you run into the issue of needing

697
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: to figure out where you put your power supply in

698
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: order to run this for any appreciable length of time. Um.

699
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: Even with the the lightsaber thing we mentioned earlier with

700
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: the the Hexmath Industries, they had a backpack connected they

701
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: called it a proto saber, which is in Star Wars

702
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: law as well. But they had a backpack that would

703
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: hold the fuel that would feed into the lightsaber. And

704
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: even then it was only good for about five minutes

705
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: of operation if you wanted to use it for more

706
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: than that, you had to hook up you know, another

707
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: like fuel tank of oxygen and a fuel tank of

708
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: propane in order to do any appreciable work with it.

709
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: Same sort of thing. When you're getting to the energy

710
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: sources for something like this, you would still have that issue.

711
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: It would it would drain a battery pretty quickly if

712
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about a uh an ultrasonic transducer that could

713
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: vibrate a significant blade for a decent amount of time. So,

714
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: but it's there's nothing, there's nothing wrong about the premise. Okay,

715
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: Star Wars, good on you. You've got something almost kind

716
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: of sorry, right all right, so, uh we haven't. There's

717
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: another weapon that does have a power source, albeit it's

718
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: an art reactor whip lash yeah yep from Iron Man.

719
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: Wiplash from from Iron Man to or the comics uses

720
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: uh an iron Man mark arm to make yeah to

721
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: to make his his armor. And also these electric whips

722
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: that are electromagnetic whips that are made from the copper

723
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: wires of the electro magnetic motor that powers his suit.

724
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: So could you make copper wire electromagnetic whips? I mean

725
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: you could make up that you could du a wheel

726
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: and make them spring loaded. And I wouldn't recommend it,

727
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: um because I mean, essentially what he's using our live

728
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: wire electric wires as whips, right, dangerous stuff. Uh. So

729
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: it's you could have. You would have to have very

730
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: high voltage going through them to do any significant damage

731
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: the way you see in the movie, Like it's essentially

732
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: gotta behind the voltage to again plasma, I fi the

733
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: air that's immediately around the whips, because that's what it

734
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: looks like. It looks like it's got a plasma sheath

735
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: around it. So, Uh, these would have to have an

736
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: incredible amount of juice coming from them, which is where

737
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: you get that arc reactor. Uh. The arc reactor that

738
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 1: Iron Man uses, at least in some sources, is said

739
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: to be able to provide three giga jewels per second

740
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: of electricity, which is essentially a maniature fusion reactor. The

741
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: nuclear reactors that we have today that we use for

742
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: electricity are fission reactors. They split atoms, fusion reactors fuse

743
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: atoms together. They are incredible, entirely possible. We have some

744
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: fusion reactors, uh that are research facilities right now. The

745
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: problem with fusion reactors is it takes so much energy

746
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: to get that reaction started that the energy you get

747
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: out from running the reactor is less than what it

748
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: took for you to start it. So imagine like it

749
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: took you ten times as much energy for you to

750
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: start an electric mower as it would for you to

751
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: cut the grasp by hand. You would sit there and

752
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: say like, well, yeah, I've got a device that cuts

753
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: my grasp, but it actually is more work to start

754
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: it than it is for me to cut my hand. Um.

755
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: Same or a thing with fusion reactors right now. But

756
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: if we can ever solve that, it would be a

757
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: massive help to uh to our energy needs. That being said,

758
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: it's also something that runs super hot, despite the claims

759
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: of cold fusion, So having it as something that operates

760
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: your heart not recommended you die. Um So you probably

761
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't even want to really wear it. You wouldn't want

762
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: to be near it. You would want a lot of

763
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: shielding with like active cooling systems between you and it.

764
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: But moreover, it wouldn't be strong enough. You can't make

765
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: something that small. You can't make it at all right now.

766
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: You can't make something that small, which means you don't

767
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: have the energy source you would need to be able

768
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: to create that incredible effect. So again, it's something that

769
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: looks cool in movies but is not practical. Uh, and

770
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: certainly not possible in the implementation we see in the film. So, um,

771
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm sad that whiplash gave me whiplash, not not at

772
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: least without you said protection force fields, So, force fields

773
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: and force shoots. I look forward to talking about this,

774
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: but first I'm going to take another break. All right.

775
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: Just before the break, Aerial, you said something about force shields.

776
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: Are you Are you thinking about stuff like the bubble? Yes,

777
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: force shields, force fields, whatever you want to call it,

778
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: barriers made of plasma, energy, other particles, usually without mass,

779
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: to either contain mass or keep mass out, or to

780
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: contain energy or to keep energy out. They work in

781
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: so many ways, in ways that are are amazing and

782
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: largely impossible. Sadly. Um, yeah, because for one thing, like

783
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: like some of the force fields we see, they can

784
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: protect against anything, right, energy or physical. It just bounces off.

785
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: I can't think of anything that would be able to

786
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: do both. Uh. That being said, there are certain things

787
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: that that are akin to a force field. Like you

788
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: could argue that the Earth's magnetic field is kind of

789
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: like a force field, because the magnetic field is what

790
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: helps protect us against certain charged particles that get ejected

791
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: by the Sun. And these charged particles have the potential

792
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: to do some pretty serious damage to us if they

793
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: were able to get to us. But through a combination

794
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: of our atmosphere, which also serves as sort of a

795
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: force field, and the magnetic field of the Earth, that

796
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Now, what can happen is that we can

797
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: get bombarded with uh energized particles that we will then

798
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: actually see as a result here on Earth. Because you've

799
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: heard of the Aurora borealis, right, Yeah, when we get

800
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: hit by those sort of energized particles, you can get

801
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: some really spectacular aurora. In fact, in years past when

802
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: we've had particularly eventful solar events, there have been aurora's

803
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: reported as far south as like Texas being in which normally,

804
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, you can only see them if you're in

805
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: the really the northern part of the globe, like you know,

806
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: up in Canada. What that's doesn't feel that far north

807
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: to me. It's pretty far north from where we are

808
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: areal but that also makes me feel like raising Dion

809
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: is almost could maybe hypothetically be accurate because everybody got

810
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: their powers from an Aurora borealis. I mean if that

811
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: were the case, though, then you might get your powers

812
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: next time you pass really close to your fridge if

813
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: you happen to have a lot of permanent magnets attached

814
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: to it. Uh don't. I mean I get a lot

815
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: of powers whenever I passed by my fridge. It's called

816
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: the power of making yogurt disappear yogurt. All right, Well,

817
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't have any more weapons. Well that's okay. I

818
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: mean we can talk about a couple of of non

819
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: weapons sci fi gadgets, and like we said, we have

820
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: a lot of these. We know that this is a

821
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: long episode, so well, let's just do a couple more

822
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: aerial and then after that we'll regroup and see if

823
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: we would like to do a part two to this

824
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: sounds good. Well, then if we're only going to do

825
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: a couple, I'm going to focus on one of my

826
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: favorite properties, Doctor who uh exactly uh and doctor who

827
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: is very very famous for a sonic screwdriver, which is

828
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: kind of like a miracle multitool um. You know, each

829
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 1: doctor creates their own or time Lord and some people

830
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: who are not even doctors have created that them with

831
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: certain technological help. You know, they're only really thwarted by

832
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: wood or deadlock seals, which are also very very vague.

833
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: And the occasional hair dryer can thwart a sonic screwdriver.

834
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: That's dr ten um, and they can. So I'm gonna

835
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: start there, because even though the sonic screwdriver has grown

836
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: to be this massively powerful, tiny little tool, the original

837
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: was a tool that just was a beam of ultrasonic

838
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: sound that would uh cause something to vibrate, like let's

839
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: say a screwdriver. It would vibrate to loosen the screw

840
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: and then use directional waves to turn the screw sonic screwdriver.

841
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: That was the original form of the sonic screwdriver. That

842
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: seems it could also have an ultrasonic energy lance to

843
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: use as a soldering iron, but that seems a lot

844
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: more plausible than this thing that can self repair and

845
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: send out homing signals to find missing parts. So yeah,

846
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: very basic sonic screwdriver, the basic sonic scoogever you described

847
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: it is interesting, Uh, creating the specific directions is a

848
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: bit of a challenge, though not impossible, and we have

849
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: seen people use sonic waves to do incredible things. There's

850
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: a thing called acoustic levitation, and it's exactly what it

851
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: sounds like. It's using sound waves to make an object

852
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: float uh And it's it's entirely possible because again, when

853
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: you think about what sound waves are, it's really the

854
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: fluctuations of air pressure. It's vibrating air molecules, uh. And

855
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: if you vibrate them in a specific way, you can

856
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: achieve some pretty incredible results. Getting back to that resonant

857
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: frequency idea, if you were to be able to detect

858
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: what the resonant frequency of a specific surface was, and

859
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: then you were able to replicate that at a uh

860
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: an amplitude of volume high enough, you can make that

861
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: thing start to share, make itself apart. So in some

862
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: ways this kind of works like you could create a

863
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: vibration powerful enough or at the really at the right

864
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: frequency to cause something to shake itself to pieces. That's

865
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: entirely possible. You would first have to figure out what

866
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: that resonant frequency is, and a lot of stuff like

867
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: is be kind of tricky to figure that out, whether

868
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: or not you could amplify it enough to to do

869
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: enough of damage to it as another question, but at

870
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: least on that basis of the idea of using sound

871
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: waves to move stuff that's legit using everything else I

872
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, well, and that also takes out the

873
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 1: whole thing of sonic screw drivers don't work on wood,

874
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: which occasionally they did, because yeah, no, that's that's entirely true,

875
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: Like there's no reason it wouldn't work on would at

876
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 1: least for that purpose, Like wood takes vibration really well

877
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: actually so uh yeah, that that honestly makes no sense

878
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: from the perspective of this is working on ultrasonic frequencies

879
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: if it's truly a sonic tool. Um, it's funny because

880
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: we really think of it in storytelling terms as a

881
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: d O sex makina, that idea of the god in

882
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: the machine. This is the the get out of jail

883
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: free card that lets our hero get out of a

884
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: seemingly impossible situation. The writers have written our hero into

885
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: a scenario where they can't figure out any other way

886
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: to get them out, so they have to use a

887
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: tool that magically lets them out of that unless but

888
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, once you create that, you can't make the

889
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: genie go back in the bottle, right, so now the

890
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: genie is out of the bottle. That's why you have

891
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: the deadlocks. So now you yeah, and and and the

892
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: hair dryers just whenever you whenever you need it to

893
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: not work, then you just throw something in there. So

894
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a two well that does whatever the

895
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: plot needs it to do, and it doesn't work whenever

896
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: the plot needs it to not work, just like superhero characters.

897
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: You get the eternals. All right, So I'm just gonna

898
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: do one more piece of technology from Doctor Who. And

899
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: don't worry. I know this one doesn't exist, but I

900
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: guess my curiosity is whether we have anything that works similarly.

901
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: So Doctor Who uses psychic paper, explain what that does? Uh,

902
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: psychic paper works with fractal lines and weak minds. Doesn't

903
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: work on William Shakespeare though, No two, he's not a

904
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: weak mind, apparently to project what the holder of the

905
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 1: paper wants the viewer of the paper to see onto

906
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: the paper, which means if you're not particularly strong minded,

907
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: you're not used to using the psychic paper, you don't

908
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: know you're using psychic paper? Could I mean that you're

909
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: just putting out whatever random thoughts you're thinking that the

910
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 1: other person can see, and that's a whole another can

911
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: of worms. But for the purposes of this conversation, do

912
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: we have anything other than the power of suggestion that

913
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: works similar real? Get ready, because I think I'm going

914
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: to surprise you with this one. Uh, I'm ready. You've

915
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: heard of brain computer interfaces, but explain them to me,

916
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: just just for funzies. So, a brain computer interface is

917
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: exactly what it sounds like. It's a it's a way

918
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: to connect a brain with a computer system, and typically

919
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 1: it involves invasive surgery, like implanting electrodes into the brain

920
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: of the person who's going to use it. So when

921
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: we talk about implementations of this, it's usually with people

922
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: who have lost mobility. They don't have control of their

923
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: limbs um, and it's a way to try and extend

924
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: their mobility and their intend indens by creating a way

925
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: to interface with computers and robotics just using thought. So

926
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: we started working with these technologies and have made some

927
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 1: really interesting progress. And it all involves training the person

928
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: to use the technology and train the technology to work

929
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: with the person to get the output that you want. Um.

930
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: And so we have started to see this relationship between

931
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: thought and computer systems that uh, it's not quite the

932
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: same thing. Obviously, it's not the using of suggestion to

933
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: implant uh an idea and to the thoughts of people.

934
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: It's using thought to control technology. However, there have been

935
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: some early experiments that are still in the very early

936
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: phases of using brain to brain communication with a computer

937
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: system as the intermediary. So in other words, you get

938
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: to people who have these brain computer interface UH surgeries

939
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 1: and they are attempting to send meaningful information to one

940
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: another without ever speaking. They may not even be able

941
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: to speak, and we still have a long way to

942
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: go with that, but there's some interesting promising results to that,

943
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: which could mean you could reach a point where one

944
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: person could potentially implant a thought into another person. There's

945
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: something else that I want to talk about if we

946
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: do a part two to this that involves a different

947
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: technology that it talks about mice and fiber optic lines

948
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: and the implanting of false memories. Uh, these are all possibilities.

949
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: That's that's a little frightening, but it does mean that

950
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: like if I pick up some psychic paper or this

951
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: technology paper, let's paper that can take down these brain

952
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: wave thoughts that I'm sending to it, that it's not

953
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: gonna if I'm unbeknown start spill like my dirty laundry

954
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: and crazy thoughts to the world because I'm holding it.

955
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: Unless I've also had this brain interface. It's not something

956
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: like we're not gonna magically developed telekinetic or telepathic powers.

957
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: There's nothing like that. The power suggestion is a real thing.

958
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: Um you know, it's it's it is. It is possible

959
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: to reshape people's memories so that to them it seems

960
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: as though they're remembering something that really happened, when in

961
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: fact the whole thing was fabricated. We've seen that happen

962
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: where you know, if you just repeat something enough times

963
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: to someone, it gets to a point where in their

964
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: brains it's as if that actually has happened, right Like

965
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: that is something we see that with uh, you know,

966
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: brainwashing techniques too. But it's nothing as as sudden as

967
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: glance at this piece of paper that otherwise will appear blank. However,

968
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: to you, it's going to seem to be whatever it

969
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: is I want you to see, right, We can't can't

970
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: do that. But the again, the elements are there where

971
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: we start to see potential corollaries in the real world.

972
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: It's just not going to appear as the exact implementation

973
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: that we see in Doctor Who, which is a shame

974
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: because everything else in Doctor Who factual. You know, I

975
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: was gonna say, look, Doctor Who is two for two

976
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: on possible, so vaguely possible, vaguely possible in the thinnest

977
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: slice of possibility. Uh. In my mind, Doctor Who wins

978
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: the Today's Conversation doing better than Star Wars. Right now,

979
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: we've got We've got a lot more of these. Actually,

980
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: in fact, I'm looking right now through our outline and

981
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: we we haven't even touched on some of the stuff

982
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: that we've got in our outline where we can come

983
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: back and do another one. So Arial, if you're game,

984
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: I'd love to have you back. I would love to

985
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: do well. Something else we want to talk about before

986
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: we sign off is that show that we're launching. It's

987
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: launched today. You can find it on the I Heart Network.

988
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: You can also find it wherever you get your podcasts,

989
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: and it's called The Large Nerd Drawn Collider. Uh Ariel

990
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: want to give a quick background on what that show

991
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: is all about. Sure, so this show started as my

992
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: brain child, where it was actually a video series where

993
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: we would take some of the geeky things that Jonathan

994
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: and I love and mash them up and kind of

995
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: figure out what that world would look like, not making

996
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: any scientific technology, uh discoveries of our own, sci fi technology,

997
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: discoveries of our own, but a lot of fun. Nonetheless,

998
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: video production is so much work. We eventually decided to

999
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Speaker 1: make a podcast sister to it, and I heart picked

1000
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Speaker 1: it up, and so now we can share all that

1001
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: geekiness with you. We talk about current geek news. We

1002
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: talked about current geek topics, discussions like, uh, the Goonies effect,

1003
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: where do you love a movie because it's good or

1004
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: because you watched it when a kid? Why don't other

1005
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: people love that movie? Things like that, And then we

1006
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: do take those properties and we mash them up and

1007
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: we give you pictures on what those shows are properties.

1008
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: The first few episodes are live right now, so you

1009
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: can check those out. You can go and subscribe and

1010
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: listen to those shows. Um, I promise not all of

1011
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: them have me singing in them, but a couple do

1012
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: and it's amazing and you do not want to miss it.

1013
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: So that that is something really exciting. I hope you

1014
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: guys check that out and Ariel, thank you so much

1015
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: for agreeing to be on the show. I look forward

1016
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: to us continuing this conversation. Uh, thank you for having

1017
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: me going to talk about a lot more sci fi

1018
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: gadgets and technologies and what you know, how they work

1019
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 1: within their mythical universe versus how would it or if

1020
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: it would even work in our real world. We've got

1021
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff like space travel and various

1022
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: types of mythical materials, everything from adamantium to myth role.

1023
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Speaker 1: I think that might be a quick fire appe. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like obviously, if you say, like does this

1025
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: really exist and I say no, that's that's pretty fast.

1026
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: But we can talk about we can talk about what

1027
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: does make these materials special and are there any real

1028
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: world materials that share those same kind of qualities but

1029
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: not not as exotic sounding. We don't have myth role,

1030
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: but do we have something that is like myth role

1031
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and we'll we'll cover all that

1032
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: in the next episode. If you guys have suggestions for

1033
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: future topics for text stuff, reach out to me on Twitter.

1034
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: That's the best place to get in touch with me.

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Speaker 1: That would be text stuff hs W. That's the handle,

1036
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: and thank you guys so much for listening, and I'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you again really soon. Text is an I

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Speaker 1: heart Radio production. For more podcasts from I heart Radio,

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