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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast the Thought. Shokef with
Speaker 2: us PhD, received her degree from the Israel Institute of
Speaker 2: Technology and Social Organizational Psychology. Is also a full Bride alumni.
Speaker 2: She was profoundly transformed by a near fatal car crash
Speaker 2: and simultaneous near death experience. A Drawing from the profound
Speaker 2: insights of her after life encounter, she infuses the beauty
Speaker 2: and wisdom gained into her roles as a mother, writer, teacher,
Speaker 2: and healer. Guiding both of our own family and numerous clients.
Speaker 2: Doctor Shokef invites parents to rediscover their soul's purpose and
Speaker 2: shared agreements as well. The name of her new book
Speaker 2: is called The Promise We Made. Who website is linked
Speaker 2: up at Coast TOCOASTAM dot com. If hought, welcome doctor,
Speaker 2: How are you doctor? Are you there?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Hi there? How are you good?
Speaker 3: Wonderful to be here?
Speaker 2: Great? Well welcome? How are things in Israel these days?
Speaker 2: We're hearing all kinds of stories.
Speaker 3: Well, I think, if I take a birth's perspective, things
Speaker 3: are very sad, confusing, more chaos and alignments, and I'm
Speaker 3: trusting my country and it's beautiful people of all religions
Speaker 3: and all nationalities to find their hearts again, that we
Speaker 3: would all together find our hearts again, remember how humanity
Speaker 3: and make sure that all children, regardless of who they are,
Speaker 3: weren't to have a roof, have food, have health, have education,
Speaker 3: and can play around outside safely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, our hearts are broken with what we just heard
Speaker 2: about those twelve children that just got killed. Horrible.
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, indeed it's horrible, and it's it's a war
Speaker 3: that I sometimes feel is led by ancient contracts that
Speaker 3: need to be resolved and let go of, and that
Speaker 3: we need to not think of what happened, but think
Speaker 3: of the now in the future and take responsibility all
Speaker 3: of us and brings the change, which is very hard
Speaker 3: when people are grabbing into old paradigms. But I think
Speaker 3: there are a lot of people from again all nationalities, Israelis, Jewish, Arabs, Muslims, Christians, Jews,
Speaker 3: Palastines that are holding a vision for a different reality
Speaker 3: in the Middle East. So I'm holding to that dream
Speaker 3: and praying for those who and sadly we know personality,
Speaker 3: we have personal connections that have lost as well, just
Speaker 3: praying for each one of them to be brave and
Speaker 3: to choose forward and not revenge as we've been experiencing
Speaker 3: all sides.
Speaker 2: I mean, the worst that could happen is a full
Speaker 2: scale war in the Middle East. We all pray that
Speaker 2: that does not happen.
Speaker 3: Yes, and it's fun do any good. It's not going
Speaker 3: to take us forward, So yeah, I'm really praying it's
Speaker 3: not going to happen. And we're focusing on cultivating inner safety,
Speaker 3: an inner sense of luminous spiritual safety that holds us
Speaker 3: in our walk and in our lives and do what
Speaker 3: we can.
Speaker 2: We are friends with Urry Geller. He's a great guy.
Speaker 2: Do you know him out there?
Speaker 3: Not sure?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think the psychic mystic event spoons with
Speaker 2: his mind.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, so I've heard of him. I have
Speaker 3: a friend who works with him. Don't know you personally,
Speaker 3: good guy.
Speaker 2: All right, tell us about your near fatal car crash.
Speaker 2: Where did that happen? When did it happen? What happened.
Speaker 3: About a little over thirteen years ago? My daughters were
Speaker 3: still maybe my twins were thirteen months old and my
Speaker 3: head older, and that day I brought her to her daycare.
Speaker 3: My twins stayed home with my mom. It was only
Speaker 3: day I was working at that time, teaching, and I
Speaker 3: don't remember a lot from what happened before I took
Speaker 3: my time. It was a really, really beautiful day, and
Speaker 3: I have a memory of having a hard time turning
Speaker 3: left into the main road from the small village where
Speaker 3: the daycare was. And the next thing was the boom,
Speaker 3: just the sense of the boom. I don't remember the
Speaker 3: car coming towards me. I don't remember the actual crash.
Speaker 3: The other car slipped to the right because it was
Speaker 3: a wet day, and she tried to turn left and
Speaker 3: turn in her turn left, she bumped into me. We're
Speaker 3: actually very good friends now, but that's a different piece
Speaker 3: of the story. And immediately I was out of my body.
Speaker 3: But I was out of my body, not floating about
Speaker 3: the car crash or seeing what was going on. I
Speaker 3: was far away into UH And I mentioned that I
Speaker 3: refer to today as the mention of cosmic love. I
Speaker 3: think that's where we all not necessarily come from, but
Speaker 3: that we're all passed through. That they mentioned when on
Speaker 3: our way to Earth and on our way back.
Speaker 2: To our homes and could you see your body a front.
Speaker 3: Now. I didn't see my body. Only later when I
Speaker 3: came back and I was coming in and out, I
Speaker 3: could see the car. I could see the fire at
Speaker 3: the front engine. I could see them taking care of me,
Speaker 3: not even I didn't even realize it was me, But
Speaker 3: that came much later, my first experience of just being
Speaker 3: and in the luminous, shimmering light of love. I didn't
Speaker 3: see my body. I didn't see the car. I didn't
Speaker 3: understand or have any awareness that I was injured in
Speaker 3: a car crash that I left my body where I was.
Speaker 3: I knew I was somewhere amazing, beautiful, enveloping, accepting I've
Speaker 3: never I didn't. I didn't have any memory of feeling
Speaker 3: this way ever in this lifetime. And it was this
Speaker 3: so it felt like a new place, but it was
Speaker 3: also somewhere I knew I've visited before, and I know
Speaker 3: and I think we all do.
Speaker 2: Yees, did you see other beans there?
Speaker 3: Yes? As I was, I was floating in this luminous
Speaker 3: feather cloud, luminosity, shimmering light. I noticed I was floating
Speaker 3: forward and that with me there were other beings that
Speaker 3: were floating forward. And then there were other is that
Speaker 3: came from the other directions and the others that came
Speaker 3: from other directions. Some of them had a more humane form.
Speaker 3: Some of them were really really luminous and long. There
Speaker 3: was one that was very clearly more of an orb
Speaker 3: of light than any any human kind of figure that
Speaker 3: we can think of. And they were floating forward and
Speaker 3: embracing those that were floating with me or before me,
Speaker 3: were after me, and it was a beautiful, beautiful to see.
Speaker 3: It was a loving encounter, like a welcoming group, like
Speaker 3: a soul group. Guidance, I can assume which who they are,
Speaker 3: based at what I saw, on what I know now,
Speaker 3: and they would invelop those who are coming, and then
Speaker 3: they would float forward with them, And that continuously happened
Speaker 3: with those that floated with me and floated after me.
Speaker 3: Only later I realized that these were souls that finished
Speaker 3: their journey and their journey, and they were going back home.
Speaker 3: Finished the journey. I mean, they died in this earthly plane,
Speaker 3: and they were going back home, and they were welcomed
Speaker 3: by beings, by soul that they would recognize and that
Speaker 3: would make this return home comfortable. But I wasn't able
Speaker 3: to float forward with him. There was like this invisible
Speaker 3: barrier I could not cross, and in the first second,
Speaker 3: no one was coming towards me, until at some point
Speaker 3: I noticed one figure floating towards me, which I recognized
Speaker 3: as my grandfather.
Speaker 2: Was he there to help you?
Speaker 3: He was there for to help me and to guide me.
Speaker 3: It felt like the energy of my grandfather. That's the recognition,
Speaker 3: that's the memory I carried. But then later on, as
Speaker 3: I started to work with the abilities and the dimensions
Speaker 3: that my ability to travel into other dimensions that opened
Speaker 3: up in my new desk experience, I realized, I'm meeting
Speaker 3: this frequency. You know, we recognize energy by frequency. I'm
Speaker 3: meeting this frequency again and again and again. So sometimes
Speaker 3: I wonder was it my grandfather or was it my
Speaker 3: high guidance taking the frequency or the essence or pieces
Speaker 3: that I would recognize as my grandfather so that I
Speaker 3: would feel comfortable and trust and allow. And I was
Speaker 3: taken after a loving encounter and uh, and that uh
Speaker 3: confirmation that everything was okay and that I'm accepted and
Speaker 3: everything is just love. An amazing, amazing meeting of connected
Speaker 3: souls and with a telepathic communication. Because we don't use
Speaker 3: words for a thought. It's like it's more of a
Speaker 3: part of art energy exchange. He guided me to a
Speaker 3: shimmering balcony. It's really really large balcony, white balcony, and
Speaker 3: we most of the time we stood in the same spot.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if like Earth moved below us
Speaker 3: or the fashon he moved above, and I was just
Speaker 3: guided to see every aspect of humanity that you can
Speaker 3: think of.
Speaker 2: How long in terms of Earth time do you think
Speaker 2: you were out of your body?
Speaker 3: So the estimat is around seven minutes based on someone
Speaker 3: who didn't see the car crash happened, but arrived immediately
Speaker 3: after that and was standing my buy me until the
Speaker 3: paramedics came, and he said I was rolling my eyes,
Speaker 3: barely breathing, that he was sure I was going to leave,
Speaker 3: and that took about seven seven minutes until I suddenly
Speaker 3: was able to answer his question. He was asking me
Speaker 3: whether my babies were in the car with me, because
Speaker 3: he saw the basis of the clicks and next at
Speaker 3: the back seat, and he was afraid one of them
Speaker 3: flew out of the car, so he kept asking and
Speaker 3: I kept trying to answer him, but he did not
Speaker 3: hear my answers. Once I came back, I tried to
Speaker 3: answer him until I suddenly had a few seconds of
Speaker 3: really strange clarity. Gave him my husband said, no babies
Speaker 3: were in the car. Gave him my husband's phone number,
Speaker 3: told him to call him to have him come. We
Speaker 3: lived very close to the location of the car crash,
Speaker 3: and I and then I left my body again usual
Speaker 3: seven minutes. It felt like a few days of seeing
Speaker 3: Earth and Earth and Earth and the goods and the
Speaker 3: very very sad aspects of us humans being confused and
Speaker 3: making really really unaligned choices.
Speaker 2: Did did they take you to the hospital?
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, they called in a helicopter to take me
Speaker 3: to the hospital because I had multiple injuries and I
Speaker 3: had no chance of getting of making it otherwise because
Speaker 3: drives with an avalanche would have taken too long.
Speaker 2: As they took you away in the helicopter. Where was
Speaker 2: your out of body moment at that time? Did you
Speaker 2: follow the helicopter? Did you go back to your body?
Speaker 3: By the time after the earthly seven minutes in which
Speaker 3: I was seeing Earth on its elements, my guide, my grandfather,
Speaker 3: clearly told me it was like a suddenly, Okay, we've
Speaker 3: seen what you can absorb. That wasn't being said, that's
Speaker 3: me adding it now. And now he said it's not
Speaker 3: your time. You have to go back now. And it
Speaker 3: wasn't a choice giving to me to stay in Thissmas
Speaker 3: beautiful place, which I'd returned to later in many way,
Speaker 3: in many other ways. And I fell back into my body.
Speaker 3: And from that moment I fell back into my body.
Speaker 3: I was coming in and out. And that's when I
Speaker 3: had that less than a minute conversation with a man
Speaker 3: that was standing by me until the paramedics came. And
Speaker 3: that's what happened during the alic and during my stay
Speaker 3: in the hospital, in the ice you, I was in
Speaker 3: an induced comma. I was coming in and out, so
Speaker 3: I was it was not possible to stay in my body.
Speaker 3: You know, when we when our soul fills pain and
Speaker 3: is stressed and it's not safer to be in the body,
Speaker 3: we fly out. That a part of some of the
Speaker 3: explanation for some of it out of body experiences. So
Speaker 3: I was floating in and out, and some of those
Speaker 3: pieces I saw, like what happened when they evacuated me.
Speaker 3: But then I was really really strong painkillers and I
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of memories from when I was
Speaker 3: in the hospital and in the ICU and the induced comma.
Speaker 3: I think I was reliving what everything that I saw
Speaker 3: in those short, perthly minutes, but out of time, beyond time,
Speaker 3: days of experiencing humanity.
Speaker 2: Now, when you say that you have been back in
Speaker 2: and out of your body since, then, do you ask
Speaker 2: to project that will what happened?
Speaker 3: So? At first I would. As I was recovering, I
Speaker 3: was resting and resting and resting. I wasn't able to
Speaker 3: do anything, eat, walk nothing. I was like a.
Speaker 2: Baby physically physically, if what was wrong with you with
Speaker 2: the accident? What happened physically?
Speaker 3: A lot of broken bones all over my body. A
Speaker 3: lot of internal organs that were wounded needed to be
Speaker 3: taken out. They had to open a stoma because my
Speaker 3: intention even testings were a mess that was later close.
Speaker 3: My jaw was out of place. I couldn't talk for
Speaker 3: it to eat, I wasn't able to walk, a lot
Speaker 3: of internal injuries and broken bones, like a multiple injuries.
Speaker 3: I was injured all over from from head to toe
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 2: Now back to these other experiences.
Speaker 3: What in so I was? I was resting and I
Speaker 3: think that what in distance. At the beginning were two things.
Speaker 3: It was really painful to be in my body, so
Speaker 3: I was getting away from it. And the other thing
Speaker 3: that induced it was that like a maget that was
Speaker 3: pulling me back to is this amazing, beautiful space I
Speaker 3: just visited during the car crash, I was constantly not
Speaker 3: in control. It was just happening going back there. Sometimes
Speaker 3: it was just in my mind. Sometimes I felt that
Speaker 3: actual projection and my body, and I could watch my
Speaker 3: body and as I as time progressed, I learned to
Speaker 3: control that. So if I had to go for a
Speaker 3: medical intervention in the hospital, which I had a lot of,
Speaker 3: I could lower the pain level by leaving my body
Speaker 3: or by using that connection. I would really I was
Speaker 3: focused into that luminous love that I visited, the mention
Speaker 3: of cosmic love, and I would be there in my
Speaker 3: energy and I wouldn't feel the pain in my body.
Speaker 3: And I learned how to control that ability of coming
Speaker 3: in and out. And then I noticed I mediate healing
Speaker 3: for others, very small little things, and I decided to
Speaker 3: study shamanic practices and tramanic tools. Dramanic tools opened the
Speaker 3: door for shamanic journeying and brought a lot of structure
Speaker 3: to what I was doing, and traumanic journeying and dramatic journeying.
Speaker 3: We can journey. We expand our aluminus field without leaving
Speaker 3: our body, which is amazing. We're present, we expand our
Speaker 3: aluminus field, and we can tap into those amazing dimensions,
Speaker 3: so I can go back there as many times as
Speaker 3: I want to without leaving my body.
Speaker 2: At one point, did you encounter extraterrestrials?
Speaker 3: I think there are two times. First, in my first
Speaker 3: visit during the near death experiences, not everyone was human.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just souls that come to visit Earth and
Speaker 3: dress and take that human form that we know from
Speaker 3: our lifetime here. There were other beings as well, and
Speaker 3: I remember watching them and feeling very very comfortable that
Speaker 3: it's all that's who we are, you know. It's like
Speaker 3: we see the difference doesn't have any meaning. Where we
Speaker 3: all come here to a journey on Earth, and regardless
Speaker 3: of where we come from, it doesn't matter. So that
Speaker 3: was the first encounter, and a simple one.
Speaker 2: Would you have had many?
Speaker 3: The next one was not I did not meet anyone
Speaker 3: on the earthly claim, but I have visited many other
Speaker 3: dimensions and planets during using shamanic journey and using my
Speaker 3: ability to travel the.
Speaker 2: Osma, And you're still doing.
Speaker 3: It where I met others?
Speaker 2: Are you still doing it?
Speaker 3: If I need to, I do that, Yes, if I'm
Speaker 3: sent to for a healing for someone mediate healing, I
Speaker 3: don't do that just for you know, just for exploration
Speaker 3: or fun. I did do that for a while when
Speaker 3: I was learning the map of the Cosmos and how
Speaker 3: to travel and where to travel. But if I need
Speaker 3: to go somewhere because I'm guided to as part of
Speaker 3: mediating healings and New York.
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