1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast the Thought. Shokef with 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: us PhD, received her degree from the Israel Institute of 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: Technology and Social Organizational Psychology. Is also a full Bride alumni. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: She was profoundly transformed by a near fatal car crash 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: and simultaneous near death experience. A Drawing from the profound 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: insights of her after life encounter, she infuses the beauty 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: and wisdom gained into her roles as a mother, writer, teacher, 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: and healer. Guiding both of our own family and numerous clients. 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: Doctor Shokef invites parents to rediscover their soul's purpose and 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: shared agreements as well. The name of her new book 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 2: is called The Promise We Made. Who website is linked 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: up at Coast TOCOASTAM dot com. If hought, welcome doctor, 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: How are you doctor? Are you there? 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 3: Yes? 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: Hi there? How are you good? 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: Wonderful to be here? 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: Great? Well welcome? How are things in Israel these days? 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: We're hearing all kinds of stories. 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think, if I take a birth's perspective, things 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: are very sad, confusing, more chaos and alignments, and I'm 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: trusting my country and it's beautiful people of all religions 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: and all nationalities to find their hearts again, that we 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: would all together find our hearts again, remember how humanity 26 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: and make sure that all children, regardless of who they are, 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: weren't to have a roof, have food, have health, have education, 28 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: and can play around outside safely. 29 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, our hearts are broken with what we just heard 30 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: about those twelve children that just got killed. Horrible. 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, indeed it's horrible, and it's it's a war 32 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: that I sometimes feel is led by ancient contracts that 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: need to be resolved and let go of, and that 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 3: we need to not think of what happened, but think 35 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 3: of the now in the future and take responsibility all 36 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: of us and brings the change, which is very hard 37 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: when people are grabbing into old paradigms. But I think 38 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: there are a lot of people from again all nationalities, Israelis, Jewish, Arabs, Muslims, Christians, Jews, 39 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 3: Palastines that are holding a vision for a different reality 40 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: in the Middle East. So I'm holding to that dream 41 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 3: and praying for those who and sadly we know personality, 42 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: we have personal connections that have lost as well, just 43 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: praying for each one of them to be brave and 44 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: to choose forward and not revenge as we've been experiencing 45 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: all sides. 46 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: I mean, the worst that could happen is a full 47 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: scale war in the Middle East. We all pray that 48 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: that does not happen. 49 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: Yes, and it's fun do any good. It's not going 50 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 3: to take us forward, So yeah, I'm really praying it's 51 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: not going to happen. And we're focusing on cultivating inner safety, 52 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 3: an inner sense of luminous spiritual safety that holds us 53 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: in our walk and in our lives and do what 54 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 3: we can. 55 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: We are friends with Urry Geller. He's a great guy. 56 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: Do you know him out there? 57 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: Not sure? 58 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: No, I don't think the psychic mystic event spoons with 59 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: his mind. 60 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, so I've heard of him. I have 61 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: a friend who works with him. Don't know you personally, 62 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: good guy. 63 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: All right, tell us about your near fatal car crash. 64 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: Where did that happen? When did it happen? What happened. 65 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: About a little over thirteen years ago? My daughters were 66 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: still maybe my twins were thirteen months old and my 67 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: head older, and that day I brought her to her daycare. 68 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: My twins stayed home with my mom. It was only 69 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: day I was working at that time, teaching, and I 70 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: don't remember a lot from what happened before I took 71 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: my time. It was a really, really beautiful day, and 72 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: I have a memory of having a hard time turning 73 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: left into the main road from the small village where 74 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 3: the daycare was. And the next thing was the boom, 75 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: just the sense of the boom. I don't remember the 76 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: car coming towards me. I don't remember the actual crash. 77 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: The other car slipped to the right because it was 78 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: a wet day, and she tried to turn left and 79 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: turn in her turn left, she bumped into me. We're 80 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: actually very good friends now, but that's a different piece 81 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: of the story. And immediately I was out of my body. 82 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: But I was out of my body, not floating about 83 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: the car crash or seeing what was going on. I 84 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 3: was far away into UH And I mentioned that I 85 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: refer to today as the mention of cosmic love. I 86 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: think that's where we all not necessarily come from, but 87 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: that we're all passed through. That they mentioned when on 88 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: our way to Earth and on our way back. 89 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: To our homes and could you see your body a front. 90 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: Now. I didn't see my body. Only later when I 91 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: came back and I was coming in and out, I 92 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: could see the car. I could see the fire at 93 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: the front engine. I could see them taking care of me, 94 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: not even I didn't even realize it was me, But 95 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 3: that came much later, my first experience of just being 96 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: and in the luminous, shimmering light of love. I didn't 97 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 3: see my body. I didn't see the car. I didn't 98 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: understand or have any awareness that I was injured in 99 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: a car crash that I left my body where I was. 100 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: I knew I was somewhere amazing, beautiful, enveloping, accepting I've 101 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: never I didn't. I didn't have any memory of feeling 102 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: this way ever in this lifetime. And it was this 103 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 3: so it felt like a new place, but it was 104 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: also somewhere I knew I've visited before, and I know 105 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: and I think we all do. 106 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: Yees, did you see other beans there? 107 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: Yes? As I was, I was floating in this luminous 108 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: feather cloud, luminosity, shimmering light. I noticed I was floating 109 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: forward and that with me there were other beings that 110 00:06:53,960 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: were floating forward. And then there were other is that 111 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 3: came from the other directions and the others that came 112 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: from other directions. Some of them had a more humane form. 113 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: Some of them were really really luminous and long. There 114 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: was one that was very clearly more of an orb 115 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: of light than any any human kind of figure that 116 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: we can think of. And they were floating forward and 117 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: embracing those that were floating with me or before me, 118 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: were after me, and it was a beautiful, beautiful to see. 119 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: It was a loving encounter, like a welcoming group, like 120 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: a soul group. Guidance, I can assume which who they are, 121 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: based at what I saw, on what I know now, 122 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: and they would invelop those who are coming, and then 123 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 3: they would float forward with them, And that continuously happened 124 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: with those that floated with me and floated after me. 125 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: Only later I realized that these were souls that finished 126 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: their journey and their journey, and they were going back home. 127 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: Finished the journey. I mean, they died in this earthly plane, 128 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: and they were going back home, and they were welcomed 129 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: by beings, by soul that they would recognize and that 130 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: would make this return home comfortable. But I wasn't able 131 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: to float forward with him. There was like this invisible 132 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: barrier I could not cross, and in the first second, 133 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: no one was coming towards me, until at some point 134 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: I noticed one figure floating towards me, which I recognized 135 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: as my grandfather. 136 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: Was he there to help you? 137 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: He was there for to help me and to guide me. 138 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 3: It felt like the energy of my grandfather. That's the recognition, 139 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: that's the memory I carried. But then later on, as 140 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: I started to work with the abilities and the dimensions 141 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: that my ability to travel into other dimensions that opened 142 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: up in my new desk experience, I realized, I'm meeting 143 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: this frequency. You know, we recognize energy by frequency. I'm 144 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: meeting this frequency again and again and again. So sometimes 145 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: I wonder was it my grandfather or was it my 146 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: high guidance taking the frequency or the essence or pieces 147 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: that I would recognize as my grandfather so that I 148 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: would feel comfortable and trust and allow. And I was 149 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: taken after a loving encounter and uh, and that uh 150 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 3: confirmation that everything was okay and that I'm accepted and 151 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: everything is just love. An amazing, amazing meeting of connected 152 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: souls and with a telepathic communication. Because we don't use 153 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 3: words for a thought. It's like it's more of a 154 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: part of art energy exchange. He guided me to a 155 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: shimmering balcony. It's really really large balcony, white balcony, and 156 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: we most of the time we stood in the same spot. 157 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: So I don't know if like Earth moved below us 158 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: or the fashon he moved above, and I was just 159 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: guided to see every aspect of humanity that you can 160 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: think of. 161 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: How long in terms of Earth time do you think 162 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: you were out of your body? 163 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: So the estimat is around seven minutes based on someone 164 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: who didn't see the car crash happened, but arrived immediately 165 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: after that and was standing my buy me until the 166 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: paramedics came, and he said I was rolling my eyes, 167 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: barely breathing, that he was sure I was going to leave, 168 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: and that took about seven seven minutes until I suddenly 169 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: was able to answer his question. He was asking me 170 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: whether my babies were in the car with me, because 171 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: he saw the basis of the clicks and next at 172 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: the back seat, and he was afraid one of them 173 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: flew out of the car, so he kept asking and 174 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: I kept trying to answer him, but he did not 175 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: hear my answers. Once I came back, I tried to 176 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: answer him until I suddenly had a few seconds of 177 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: really strange clarity. Gave him my husband said, no babies 178 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: were in the car. Gave him my husband's phone number, 179 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: told him to call him to have him come. We 180 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: lived very close to the location of the car crash, 181 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: and I and then I left my body again usual 182 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: seven minutes. It felt like a few days of seeing 183 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: Earth and Earth and Earth and the goods and the 184 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: very very sad aspects of us humans being confused and 185 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: making really really unaligned choices. 186 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: Did did they take you to the hospital? 187 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, they called in a helicopter to take me 188 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: to the hospital because I had multiple injuries and I 189 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: had no chance of getting of making it otherwise because 190 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: drives with an avalanche would have taken too long. 191 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: As they took you away in the helicopter. Where was 192 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: your out of body moment at that time? Did you 193 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: follow the helicopter? Did you go back to your body? 194 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: By the time after the earthly seven minutes in which 195 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: I was seeing Earth on its elements, my guide, my grandfather, 196 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: clearly told me it was like a suddenly, Okay, we've 197 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: seen what you can absorb. That wasn't being said, that's 198 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: me adding it now. And now he said it's not 199 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: your time. You have to go back now. And it 200 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 3: wasn't a choice giving to me to stay in Thissmas 201 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: beautiful place, which I'd returned to later in many way, 202 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: in many other ways. And I fell back into my body. 203 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: And from that moment I fell back into my body. 204 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: I was coming in and out. And that's when I 205 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: had that less than a minute conversation with a man 206 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 3: that was standing by me until the paramedics came. And 207 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: that's what happened during the alic and during my stay 208 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: in the hospital, in the ice you, I was in 209 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: an induced comma. I was coming in and out, so 210 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: I was it was not possible to stay in my body. 211 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: You know, when we when our soul fills pain and 212 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: is stressed and it's not safer to be in the body, 213 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: we fly out. That a part of some of the 214 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: explanation for some of it out of body experiences. So 215 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: I was floating in and out, and some of those 216 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: pieces I saw, like what happened when they evacuated me. 217 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: But then I was really really strong painkillers and I 218 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 3: don't have a lot of memories from when I was 219 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: in the hospital and in the ICU and the induced comma. 220 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: I think I was reliving what everything that I saw 221 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: in those short, perthly minutes, but out of time, beyond time, 222 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: days of experiencing humanity. 223 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: Now, when you say that you have been back in 224 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: and out of your body since, then, do you ask 225 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: to project that will what happened? 226 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: So? At first I would. As I was recovering, I 227 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: was resting and resting and resting. I wasn't able to 228 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 3: do anything, eat, walk nothing. I was like a. 229 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: Baby physically physically, if what was wrong with you with 230 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: the accident? What happened physically? 231 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: A lot of broken bones all over my body. A 232 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: lot of internal organs that were wounded needed to be 233 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: taken out. They had to open a stoma because my 234 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: intention even testings were a mess that was later close. 235 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: My jaw was out of place. I couldn't talk for 236 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: it to eat, I wasn't able to walk, a lot 237 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: of internal injuries and broken bones, like a multiple injuries. 238 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: I was injured all over from from head to toe 239 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: all right. 240 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: Now back to these other experiences. 241 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: What in so I was? I was resting and I 242 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: think that what in distance. At the beginning were two things. 243 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: It was really painful to be in my body, so 244 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: I was getting away from it. And the other thing 245 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: that induced it was that like a maget that was 246 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: pulling me back to is this amazing, beautiful space I 247 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: just visited during the car crash, I was constantly not 248 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: in control. It was just happening going back there. Sometimes 249 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: it was just in my mind. Sometimes I felt that 250 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: actual projection and my body, and I could watch my 251 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: body and as I as time progressed, I learned to 252 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: control that. So if I had to go for a 253 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: medical intervention in the hospital, which I had a lot of, 254 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: I could lower the pain level by leaving my body 255 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: or by using that connection. I would really I was 256 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: focused into that luminous love that I visited, the mention 257 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: of cosmic love, and I would be there in my 258 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: energy and I wouldn't feel the pain in my body. 259 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: And I learned how to control that ability of coming 260 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: in and out. And then I noticed I mediate healing 261 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: for others, very small little things, and I decided to 262 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: study shamanic practices and tramanic tools. Dramanic tools opened the 263 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: door for shamanic journeying and brought a lot of structure 264 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: to what I was doing, and traumanic journeying and dramatic journeying. 265 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: We can journey. We expand our aluminus field without leaving 266 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: our body, which is amazing. We're present, we expand our 267 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: aluminus field, and we can tap into those amazing dimensions, 268 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: so I can go back there as many times as 269 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: I want to without leaving my body. 270 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: At one point, did you encounter extraterrestrials? 271 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: I think there are two times. First, in my first 272 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 3: visit during the near death experiences, not everyone was human. 273 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 3: It wasn't just souls that come to visit Earth and 274 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: dress and take that human form that we know from 275 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 3: our lifetime here. There were other beings as well, and 276 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: I remember watching them and feeling very very comfortable that 277 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: it's all that's who we are, you know. It's like 278 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: we see the difference doesn't have any meaning. Where we 279 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 3: all come here to a journey on Earth, and regardless 280 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: of where we come from, it doesn't matter. So that 281 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: was the first encounter, and a simple one. 282 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: Would you have had many? 283 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: The next one was not I did not meet anyone 284 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: on the earthly claim, but I have visited many other 285 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: dimensions and planets during using shamanic journey and using my 286 00:17:58,880 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 3: ability to travel the. 287 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: Osma, And you're still doing. 288 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: It where I met others? 289 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: Are you still doing it? 290 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 3: If I need to, I do that, Yes, if I'm 291 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: sent to for a healing for someone mediate healing, I 292 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: don't do that just for you know, just for exploration 293 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 3: or fun. I did do that for a while when 294 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: I was learning the map of the Cosmos and how 295 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 3: to travel and where to travel. But if I need 296 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: to go somewhere because I'm guided to as part of 297 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 3: mediating healings and New York. 298 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: I do listen to more Coast to Coast AM every 299 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: weeknight at one a m. Eastern and go to Coast 300 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: to coastam dot com for more