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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson and Matt the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Dominoes are starting to fall across the league. We're also

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Speaker 1: starting to see some veteran cuts. Yeah, good point. And

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks were one of those teams that the

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Speaker 1: same day that they make go ahead and make the

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Speaker 1: trade of of Russell Wilson. Well, they let a pretty

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Speaker 1: good linebacker go as well. Bobby Wagner is now on

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Speaker 1: the open market. If you sign him, it doesn't hurt

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Speaker 1: your comp equation. I very much believe that other than

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Speaker 1: league since ray lewis Um. I also will concede that

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Speaker 1: last year he started to show some age, But I

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Speaker 1: I mean's still a really quality player. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: and I have talked about Bobby Wagner. My hunches. Some

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Speaker 1: people who have asked what the Steelers will be interested

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Speaker 1: in him, I've gotten that question. Tend to have plenty

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Speaker 1: four hours, you know, and my answer would be quite possibly,

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Speaker 1: because here's what here's what I'm thinking on this. You

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Speaker 1: he gets to come in and be You've got You've

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Speaker 1: got some investment there in terms of again draft picks

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Speaker 1: with with Devon Bush, wouldn't it be nice for Devon

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Speaker 1: Wagner for a year. That's what I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: is you can potentially would get better at both off

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Speaker 1: makes Bush a better player just by teaching a mentoring him,

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Speaker 1: being around him. You know, potentially that would be a

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Speaker 1: double whammy. Um, I don't know what Wagner would want. Um,

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Speaker 1: And Jerry Doolack and I talked about this a lot

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Speaker 1: which he is. But I also think it would be

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Speaker 1: him for eight He's made eighty four point seven million

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Speaker 1: Every year when they have they there's always a poll

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Speaker 1: to me, these guys who are released are way more attractive.

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Speaker 1: some some draft capital for guys that you lose. Right,

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Speaker 1: those third, fourth, fifth round compis are gold, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so I heard I was listening yesterday they're going

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Speaker 1: It's funny you we and I you know, I've been

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Speaker 1: I can already write the script where Steelers will sign

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Speaker 1: and Steeler nations will start filling up our mailbox and

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Speaker 1: calling in saying why are they being cheap? Why aren't

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Speaker 1: what I'm worth for you? Okay, yeah, sure you certainly can't.

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Speaker 1: There's also this there's a cut off there for the

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Speaker 1: And that's almost like a second wave of free agency,

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Speaker 1: All these other teams are being aggressive. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: defensive line. Well, you don't do that if you make

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Speaker 1: probably lose free agent that would have apt you know,

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Speaker 1: that quarterback market, but then still be potentially interesting because

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Speaker 1: the teams in now in front of them in the

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Speaker 1: and Denver seats being filled are big. Yeah, those are

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Speaker 1: a trade, if Jimmy ends up in New Orleans, now

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Speaker 1: they're off. Now they're off the table. So everybody's saying

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Speaker 1: the Steelers at the trade up to get a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: they might just follow to you. They might just fall

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Speaker 1: mm hmm. I think that's possible. Like, do we know

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Speaker 1: that Seattle or Carolina is willing to invest six or

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Speaker 1: seven on a quarterback, you know, instead of Cross or

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Speaker 1: Penning or an amazing edge rusher or you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? Do we know Seattle or Carolina is gonna

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Speaker 1: be willing to use the top ten pick on any

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Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks? And if not, and the Saints have

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Speaker 1: Jimmy and Washington as wins, and Denver has got their guy,

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of land mines before. And there's

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Speaker 1: some interesting dynamics here as well. Like Teddy Bridgewater has

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Speaker 1: played in New Orleans, has played in Carolina? Is he

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Speaker 1: likely to resign with one of those teams? Probably not

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Speaker 1: are there or they're they're unlikely to resign him. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you threw his name out there, because I

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Speaker 1: hope I don't end up eating these words. He's my

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Speaker 1: least favorite Steeler option of all the possible, Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't love him, check check down Teddy to me, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather change for Jimmy. I'd rather do anything we've

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Speaker 1: brought up than that. At the same time, could he

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Speaker 1: be your caretaker quarterback while you get what he is,

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Speaker 1: while you get one of these rookies ready, Absolutely his

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Speaker 1: name should be Teddy Bridge over troubled water, because all

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Speaker 1: he is is a bridge. Teddy Bridge the gap at

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Speaker 1: quarterback exactly. And he may do that his whole life,

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Speaker 1: and he may get spent a year or two year,

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Speaker 1: a year or two there and bridge things. I just

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Speaker 1: think you could do better than that. That. I hope

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Speaker 1: that's I would I would hope so um you know,

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Speaker 1: but that certainly could be a possibility for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: We could be sitting here a week from now and

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Speaker 1: they've signed Teddy Bridgewater, They've agreed in terms of Teddy Bridgewater.

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Speaker 1: I think it's possible, and it scares me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Not that to be the end of the world. I

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Speaker 1: just think you could do better. But if your defense

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Speaker 1: is great, he fixed the defense, and you, you know,

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Speaker 1: do some you know, you make your running game better.

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Speaker 1: I mean if he's he didn't have to sign a

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Speaker 1: six million dollar deal for me. You know, it would

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Speaker 1: have to be cheap. Yeah, really cheap. It would have

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Speaker 1: to be cheap, just because the difference between just say,

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Speaker 1: some people know why I'm saying this is he was

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Speaker 1: a second round pick for a reason. He's small, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a great arm, he's not aggressive, but he's

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Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. I'm not killing the guy. But Winston,

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Speaker 1: Trabiski and Mariota and even when you know there's a

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Speaker 1: chance they resurrect their career and live up to the

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Speaker 1: the ability that they have, Daniel Jones as well. I

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Speaker 1: just think of those five, probably none of them hit,

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Speaker 1: but maybe one or two do and go on to

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Speaker 1: have really good starting careers. Where Teddy the book is written,

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Speaker 1: you know what he is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want the book that I already know what

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Speaker 1: happens at yet and it's just kind of average. It's okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton esque. Yeah yeah, that's not Yeah, that's not

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Speaker 1: where you want to be. But again, if you think

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Speaker 1: the problem is you don't know that you're gonna necessarily

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Speaker 1: get Let's say Malik Willis in the draft. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you just sit there at twenty, so then if

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Speaker 1: you all of a sudden now you get to live

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Speaker 1: with this guy. I don't mean to speak for you,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's pretty clear you and I are

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Speaker 1: enamored more and more, especially post combine with non quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: at twenty, more than we were a week ago. Davis.

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Speaker 1: You know, like there would be somebody really good there

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Speaker 1: that you'd love to have. It's not a quarterback. That

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Speaker 1: being said, I don't think I've talked about this on

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Speaker 1: the drive yet. I'm sorry to really like Ridder. I

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Speaker 1: think like if we do a triple take the next

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Speaker 1: time around on quarterbacks, I think Ritter is gonna be

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Speaker 1: my two. I'm not sure what I what we don't

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Speaker 1: like about this guy. I mean, he gets better every year.

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Speaker 1: He takes his team to wins a ton of games.

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Speaker 1: Pretty darn good at the Senior Bowl, but no one

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Speaker 1: really quite talks about him. Really good at the Combine.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievably conscientious, smart, hard worker, mature. I know he misses throws,

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Speaker 1: but every year he's missed fewer, and some of that

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Speaker 1: I think is just his overstriding, which could be corrected

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Speaker 1: or at least improved, I think, and in the meantime

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Speaker 1: when he learns he can run to get himself out

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Speaker 1: of trouble. You know, Like, I think Ritter is pretty

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Speaker 1: darn good, and I didn't think that a month ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like the guy. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I like him as two of is my second best

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Speaker 1: quarterback in this draft class, I understand that. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: starting to be pretty enamored with him. Okay, Well with that,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take another break when we come back. Daniel Jeremiah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Top mcshae posted his post combine. These box

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Speaker 1: are changing pretty quick. They're gonna have to change a

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Speaker 1: little bit here. Let's let's take a look at what

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Speaker 1: what Todd came up with coming out of this. I

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Speaker 1: think there's there's some differences here coming out of the

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Speaker 1: combine from what we saw a pre combine. But we'll

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