Speaker 1: June five, two thousand and eight, TD Bank North Garden, Boston,
Speaker 1: mass was six minutes forty nine seconds left in the
Speaker 1: third quarter. Kobe Bryant hits a shot and puts the
Speaker 1: Lakers up four over the Celtics. Paul Pierce goes down,
Speaker 1: clutching his right leg. This is the Wheelchair Game. I
Speaker 1: like the change of their voices. Hello, and welcome to
Speaker 1: Games with Names presented by win Bet. I'm Sam Morrell
Speaker 1: and I'm Julian Edelman, and we are on the search
Speaker 1: for the greatest games of all time. Today's episode The
Speaker 1: Wheelchair Game Boston versus LA two thousand and eight NBA
Speaker 1: Finals Game one and our guest the Truth Paul Piers
Speaker 1: for thoughts in the games, like what's your gut reaction
Speaker 1: and memories you were? I mean, this was a Kent Still.
Speaker 1: You were kent Still. You were there. You became friends
Speaker 1: with these guys later later, But were you at any
Speaker 1: of these games? I was, I thought I was at
Speaker 1: this game. I was actually at the next year one.
Speaker 1: Next year was I wasn't at this one. This is
Speaker 1: what do you think when you think of this series.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a pretty epic It's Boston in
Speaker 1: LA the most historic NBA rivalry. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: remember getting excited for the whole Boston LA. I wasn't
Speaker 1: really in the Boston world yet. I was still like
Speaker 1: a Bay Area kid in Ohio, but I always remembered
Speaker 1: this was like the first year of the like the
Speaker 1: Big Three team. They brought over Ray Allen, Paul Pierce
Speaker 1: was there, and then they got Kevin Garnett, Like this
Speaker 1: was like the first super team. And they did it
Speaker 1: through trades, like you think about the Miami Heat. Lebron
Speaker 1: and Bosh signed with the Heat. Yeah, they made I
Speaker 1: mean this was like Al Jefferson and some other stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm jack. You could look up the total package was
Speaker 1: Al Jefferson and stuff for Garnett, and then it was
Speaker 1: like Jeff Green, Delonte West and something for Ray Allen.
Speaker 1: I mean they they did it through the front office exactly.
Speaker 1: But I just I remember I was always a Ray
Speaker 1: Allen fan because he got game great movie. You know
Speaker 1: what I saw in the theater with my mom and
Speaker 1: during the titty scene she put her hands over my eyes.
Speaker 1: Did you did you give one of these? Did you like,
Speaker 1: did you like open her eyes like her hand? Thought
Speaker 1: about it, but like, what am I gonna fight with
Speaker 1: my mom's fingers to see titties? It was like a
Speaker 1: great movie, great movie. One of my favorite Spike Spike
Speaker 1: Lee joint unbelievable. But Denzelze Denzel is one of you
Speaker 1: could hoop apparently. I mean, I think in the original screenplay,
Speaker 1: something I read once was that it was supposed to
Speaker 1: be eleven zero in the one on one game Jesus
Speaker 1: Shuttles were versus Denzel, and then Spike Lee was like shit,
Speaker 1: Denzel's kind of good, so they made it like eleven
Speaker 1: to three or something. They had to give him some respect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got it. I mean it's Denzel, He's one of
Speaker 1: the goats. Yeah, but uh yeah, dude. This is just
Speaker 1: like a cool ass game series because it just has
Speaker 1: the tradition of basketball, even if you weren't a big
Speaker 1: basketball person. You know about the Celtics and the Lakers.
Speaker 1: So I was just excited to see it. I mean,
Speaker 1: you think of the names going through the years. It's
Speaker 1: like Walt versus Bill Russell, Magic versus Bird, you know,
Speaker 1: Kareem versus Parish. You know, now you have a new
Speaker 1: era Kobe versus you know, Pierce Garnett, Allen, all these guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many big names in this series.
Speaker 1: It's augasol lamar Odom, lamar Odom. I loved it. This
Speaker 1: was pre Kardashian. We all have to look that up.
Speaker 1: He was still good. So I'm gonna guess it was
Speaker 1: pre Kardashian's pre Kardashian. Yeah, you know, there's something about
Speaker 1: that Kardashian vagina that just sucks the power out of
Speaker 1: out of star athletes. I don't know what. I've never
Speaker 1: been there, I don't know. But let's go back to
Speaker 1: June two thousand and eight. On this day, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite TV shows became a movie and it became
Speaker 1: the number one movie. What was a Sex and the City?
Speaker 1: Are you a Sex in the City? Head? Nah? But
Speaker 1: I would watch it. It's fun. I loved it. I mean,
Speaker 1: like that made me want to live in New York.
Speaker 1: Got to live in New York. Anytime I walked around here,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is like Sex and the City. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So this is not what
Speaker 1: I expected from Julian Edelman, and I love it. Love
Speaker 1: Sex and the City. It's a good show. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've already we've already established. I love rom coms and
Speaker 1: Sex and the City r so like I'm big. I
Speaker 1: like that stuff. If it's if I'm on the road
Speaker 1: and Sex and the City comes on like TBS or something,
Speaker 1: I'm pumped. I'm secretly pumped. But I met the actress
Speaker 1: Christin Davis who plays Charlotte when I was in like
Speaker 1: maybe eighth grade. I walked into a diner with my friends.
Speaker 1: We were in our JV basketball uniforms, and I said,
Speaker 1: I know you from Sex and the City and she goes,
Speaker 1: you're too young to watch that show. And I said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: then how come I know your husband came get hard
Speaker 1: got a huge laugh in the diner. She she gave
Speaker 1: me like all right, and you know, and that's when
Speaker 1: you is that when you first thought, like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be a stand up comedian? No, probably I think
Speaker 1: she gave me a giggle. She was like all right,
Speaker 1: she was. Do you think you had a shot because
Speaker 1: you made her laugh. I was in eighth grade, so
Speaker 1: probably not, but you know, you best believe that was
Speaker 1: that was for the spank bank. Later you're like, I
Speaker 1: gonna laugh at a Christian day. I knew that was
Speaker 1: the best. I get hey now, eighth grade. That's I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you miss all the shots you don't take. But I
Speaker 1: should have gone for it, dude, you miss all the
Speaker 1: shots you don't take. We had a moment what if
Speaker 1: what if a thirteen year old me just like went
Speaker 1: for it and she was like, please leave me, Please
Speaker 1: leave me alone. It kind of reminds me. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, remember blank check? Did we already talk about it?
Speaker 1: I remember the movie a little. I remember I saw
Speaker 1: it as a kid. Yeah, blank checked. The guy like
Speaker 1: little Macintosh kid was hitting on the hot cop, undercover cop,
Speaker 1: and I always thought that you had a shot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I used to love that. That
Speaker 1: that that lady, she was so beautiful. Yeah, well what
Speaker 1: actress was that? Who is she? I don't she was
Speaker 1: in a couple, but uh also, you got jack. Was
Speaker 1: that Karen Duffy? It could have been car Yeah. And
Speaker 1: she had short hair, yeah, she just and she was
Speaker 1: she was real cool. Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: She was like had that little cool personality where like
Speaker 1: she was always comforting and I don't know, I was
Speaker 1: in love with her. That was That was definitely like
Speaker 1: I always had adult crushes always, yeah, always, And I
Speaker 1: also Jack, who who are you guys? Who are you?
Speaker 1: Who are your guys? Who are your guys? Will obviously
Speaker 1: know who are your crushes? When you were like a
Speaker 1: kid actress? Who is the fingers the figure skater? I
Speaker 1: always had finger skater. He got ahead of the fantasy
Speaker 1: and not Nancy Kerrigan. Tara Lepinsky was that. I don't
Speaker 1: know why had She was like our age. I was
Speaker 1: in eighth grade. I remember I loved her. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Tara, if you're listening, check how small this shirt
Speaker 1: is and it works it where he can pull it
Speaker 1: off because he's shredded speak. I mean like, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: get on this shirt. Okay, we need I needed to
Speaker 1: get something Boston. He send out all our other Sam
Speaker 1: Sam too, Yeah, to go out and get me some.
Speaker 1: He gets me a sized medium. So I'm over here
Speaker 1: getting choked out right now in the shirt. But it
Speaker 1: looks good. You look good, thanks. You look like you
Speaker 1: could be chopping some lumber in the in the gene shorts.
Speaker 1: You look shredded. Dude. Hey, just trying to push along, buddy,
Speaker 1: give me another. Julian Edelman childhood crush, childhood crush. I
Speaker 1: loved Cameron Diaz in The Mask Classic Loved You. That
Speaker 1: was her first movie. Yeah, first movie. I loved her.
Speaker 1: Who are your question crushes? That's so I can think
Speaker 1: about mine? Denise Richards for sure. I remember I did.
Speaker 1: I did it. I did someone's show once and he goes,
Speaker 1: who are you? Who are your crushes? And I said
Speaker 1: Denise Richards, Jennifer love Hewitt, And then we went to
Speaker 1: break and he goes, fuck them both. I won't say
Speaker 1: who it was, but I was like, wow, He's like,
Speaker 1: I want you to keep going. I was like, I
Speaker 1: mean Jesus, yeah, I also what it was funny. I
Speaker 1: loved Mariah Carey. Yeah, she was beautiful. And then I
Speaker 1: got to meet her. I went backstage at a concert
Speaker 1: when I was like in eighth grade and I was
Speaker 1: like literally up to her breast, like in height, and
Speaker 1: I remember taking this picture and she's that tall. No,
Speaker 1: I was just that small. I was a little kid.
Speaker 1: I was like a little last kid. It was like
Speaker 1: eighth grade, like four eleven, four or eight or something.
Speaker 1: And got to meet her and it was like the
Speaker 1: happ like I was like so stars. I was like
Speaker 1: like a little boy, just blushing, like hey, Mariah, how
Speaker 1: are you do you? Would you still head it? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, Lollipop was the number one. I know what.
Speaker 1: I think that's a yes, Mariah, Come on, games with nams.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going, allR Let's keep it going. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm taking us down a terrible direction here. This week
Speaker 1: in sports? How old is? How old is my carriage
Speaker 1: jacket on? Old enough to know the game, young enough
Speaker 1: to still care, I'd say, I'd say it's worth the shot.
Speaker 1: She's got to be in her fifties. She's fifty three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she said, but she's a hot fifty three. But
Speaker 1: I bet you she's still very beautiful, very beautiful, very attracted.
Speaker 1: So the Red Wings this Week in Sports beat the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Penguins four to two in the Stanley Cup Finals. Sorry, Kyler.
Speaker 1: The Big Brown failed to capture the Triple Crown after
Speaker 1: coming in dead last at the Beaumont Stakes, the Belmont
Speaker 1: Belmont Stakes, Belmont. I'm still right here, isn't it? The
Speaker 1: Belmont's right now? I'm not a horse guy, you know what. Actually,
Speaker 1: I've been to the Belmont. It's fun. Yeah, I've been,
Speaker 1: but it's just not my thing. It's the longer race, right,
Speaker 1: that's the longest one, Jack, isn't that? I think that's
Speaker 1: the longest race out of the triple crown. So it's
Speaker 1: all we it's hard to get that last one because
Speaker 1: it's like a sprint, like I don't know, mile and
Speaker 1: a half mile and a half longest one, I believe,
Speaker 1: I don't know. What are the ridiculous trends of this
Speaker 1: time in life? Two thousand and eight, BlackBerry messaging? Remember
Speaker 1: that a PM? Yeah, I remember it, but I was
Speaker 1: I had a razor. You're a razor guy. I was
Speaker 1: a razor kid. You threw it out the ears are
Speaker 1: with the Patriots. It's a beard drive. Yeah. I realized that.
Speaker 1: I realized that that's a Are you a stand up comedian? No? No?
Speaker 1: I quit? Yeah, me too. I quit after Christen Davis
Speaker 1: didn't have sex with me. When I was a child. Uh,
Speaker 1: razors were cool. Those were cool. You know what it's cool?
Speaker 1: But the razors is there were like a power phone.
Speaker 1: It was back in the day when when you got
Speaker 1: off a call, you'd be like, all right, bye, yep.
Speaker 1: You don't even have to stay by. You could just
Speaker 1: do this. You just flip it. That's a power move.
Speaker 1: It is a power move and it looks sleek, you know.
Speaker 1: I had the black one like that was like the
Speaker 1: cool one, and then the iPhone came out probably this
Speaker 1: year or the next year. When was iPhone? Two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven five June twenty ninth, two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. Are Blackberries even still around? Yeah,
Speaker 1: my agent still has one. Really, don yee a BlackBerry?
Speaker 1: They still have a black The last time you saw
Speaker 1: a BlackBerry, it's been a while, but people loved it.
Speaker 1: Everyone loved their BlackBerry, like business people love their BlackBerry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why do they love them so much? The messaging I
Speaker 1: think it was the typing for Yeah, the time was
Speaker 1: actually do you know what, because that's back in the
Speaker 1: day when it was hard. You had a razor that
Speaker 1: took like twenty minutes to send a fucking text, Hi,
Speaker 1: I love you? Yeah done. Yeah, it was a while
Speaker 1: I was wait, actually longer than that. I was. You
Speaker 1: couldn't sex back in those days. It would take too long, no,
Speaker 1: especially if you're a premature ejaculator. Yeah. That and then
Speaker 1: also like it would take you like thirty two minutes
Speaker 1: to upload a jpeg. That's true, and they were bad
Speaker 1: quality terrible. If you have like a titty pic, you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's you. You look like
Speaker 1: the woman from the Ring. I don't know who the
Speaker 1: hell this is. But two thousand and eight, a lot
Speaker 1: of election stuff that summer. Sarah Palin said she could
Speaker 1: see Russia from her house. Shoutout, Glenn Rice. We have
Speaker 1: on the wall who apparently had sex with her? Did
Speaker 1: he's that's Jack. You might have to get on this.
Speaker 1: I believe Glenn the same college or somethinghere. I think
Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's Nail and Palin. That's interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's big, I mean big, if true. Would she did?
Speaker 1: She didn't become the vice president? No, no, no, she
Speaker 1: lost that one. John McCain, I'm sure did not like her.
Speaker 1: I think he had a lot of momentum and then
Speaker 1: he brought her on board and she said a lot
Speaker 1: of dumb shit. Politics. Yeah, dude, never talk politics. No politics,
Speaker 1: absolutely no politics on this show. What were you doing
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight? You were Kent State? Ken
Speaker 1: State was my last year? Yeah, my last year at
Speaker 1: Ken State. I was I was actually looking at firehouses.
Speaker 1: I was gonna go be a fireman. U if the
Speaker 1: draft didn't work. Wow. I went to Cincinnati, Ohio, met
Speaker 1: with a firehouse chief and uh kind of shadowed them
Speaker 1: nice and and that's what I was doing. Firemen are
Speaker 1: brave as hell. Man. Yeah, I thought it was just
Speaker 1: kind of cool. It's my my friend's husband's the fire captain.
Speaker 1: He's a badass. I love it. I just wanted to, like,
Speaker 1: get on that big old truck. You would have looked
Speaker 1: cool as ship on that truck. Dude just yoked up.
Speaker 1: Were you would have been so yoked throwing the hose
Speaker 1: over your shoulder? What were you doing? I was in college.
Speaker 1: I was handing out flyers, uh to get on stage
Speaker 1: in New York City. I was handing out flyers in
Speaker 1: the street. I was I was doing a lot of like, hey,
Speaker 1: live comedy. You guys want to see some live comedy.
Speaker 1: And then sometimes they would then I'd go on some
Speaker 1: of those shows, so then they'd be I'd be like,
Speaker 1: great lineup tonight, and then those people would be in
Speaker 1: the crowd and they'd be like, who you're on the show?
Speaker 1: Fuck you? So they were furious. Uh, and now look
Speaker 1: at you. Now, look man, now look at you. I'm
Speaker 1: with I'm sitting next to Super Bowl MVP Julian I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting next to future Netflix special Sam Morrell. I
Speaker 1: mean Jesus Crime, and you look at it just like that. Life,
Speaker 1: life changes, life comes you fast. Man. This two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight Celtics team sounds like my sex life coming fast. Yes,
Speaker 1: applause in the room. I got an applause. Yomi Yomi's
Speaker 1: Yomi's been coaching me up because you know we're new
Speaker 1: at this. You know, I'm new at this. I don't
Speaker 1: have any fucking podcasting experience. But you're doing great. No,
Speaker 1: but yeah, thank you, thank you crushing it, dude. But
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta gotta take everyone's everyone's opinion and
Speaker 1: and coaching. And I'm just trying to improve day to day.
Speaker 1: I got to stop with the Patriots stuff. I mean
Speaker 1: Patriot like, hey, let's improve today, Let's do good here.
Speaker 1: Let that attitude is what's going to take you to
Speaker 1: the top of the iTunes charts as well as uh Spotify. Yeah, Spotify,
Speaker 1: Let's take over dude, iTunes Spotify. Uh. The Celtics this
Speaker 1: year were sixty six and sixteen, first in the East.
Speaker 1: I mean they were on fire. Coach by Doc Rivers,
Speaker 1: Doc to us one he came and talked to our team.
Speaker 1: Loved Doc. Doc's a legend. We'd always have like legendary
Speaker 1: people or head coaches or business leaders, or they would
Speaker 1: come and speak to the whole team in like the offseason.
Speaker 1: Doc gave an unbelievable presentation to us, talked about winning
Speaker 1: and what he believes in and uh actually speaking of this,
Speaker 1: Kobe came and spoke to us too, really, which was
Speaker 1: honestly one of the most He was one of the
Speaker 1: most interesting humans I've ever heard in that climate, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He just you could tell through
Speaker 1: the way he prepared, the way he like, he read
Speaker 1: a lot of books. He always he was very He
Speaker 1: knew like a bunch of languages in six languages. I
Speaker 1: think I don't know flew in new six languages. He
Speaker 1: just he was so interesting and like his attention to
Speaker 1: detail and his and his question asking, like he'd ask
Speaker 1: us questions so then he could take it to where
Speaker 1: he was going next in whatever he wasn't playing anymore.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you could just tell that guy was
Speaker 1: a fierce fucking winner, you know, like just Ia the Tiger,
Speaker 1: He'll fucking rip your heart out and like would do
Speaker 1: it over and over and over and over again just
Speaker 1: to show you you're not better than like that's the
Speaker 1: kind of and it like you felt that when he spoke, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it was. That was one of the That
Speaker 1: was one of the coolest things, one of the coolest
Speaker 1: people that came and talked to us before a season.
Speaker 1: But let's get back. They drafted Kendrick Perkins twenty seventh overall.
Speaker 1: Perk He's on ESPN, great great pick. He really filled
Speaker 1: out the middle. He was a tough guy. KG and
Speaker 1: Perkins next to each other were tough as nails. By
Speaker 1: the way, assistant coach on this team, the defensive mastermind,
Speaker 1: my man coach Tibbs, Tip Tom tib Though, KG and
Speaker 1: ray Allen. They got this year best defensive rating in
Speaker 1: the league. KG was easily the defensive player of the year,
Speaker 1: one of the best ever. And the names on this team,
Speaker 1: you know, Im Pierce, Ray Allen, Garnett, Rondo, Perkins, Eddie House,
Speaker 1: James Posey and the Lakers. Then we go to the
Speaker 1: Lakers record was fifty seven and twenty five. They finished
Speaker 1: first in the Western Conference. Obviously coached by the Phil Jackson,
Speaker 1: who's like the mind massager of people that we all
Speaker 1: have heard over the years. He's kind of he kind
Speaker 1: of he's kind of like a no. I would say
Speaker 1: Pops more like Bill or Who's Bill? I think Bill
Speaker 1: is closer to Pop. I think Popovich. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the Spurs and the Patriots have some like cultural similarities. Yeah, boring,
Speaker 1: boring all for one. Yeah, just when amazing systems and
Speaker 1: obviously Pop and Belichick or two of the best ever.
Speaker 1: But I always liked seeing like the background things on
Speaker 1: Phil how he was like he would always take like
Speaker 1: the out of the box approach to everything, like hey guys,
Speaker 1: let's like do yoga today and like work on our
Speaker 1: mental being. You'll get you Like weird books, yes, and
Speaker 1: there were always books that were like this is about
Speaker 1: a Navajo tribe and they'd be like, can we just
Speaker 1: fucking play the game? What are you? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: But I like that Phil was like this odd dude.
Speaker 1: He was, you know, very zen and he uh this
Speaker 1: was weird because I remember a few years prior so
Speaker 1: he left the Lakers after the three p and he
Speaker 1: comes back. He also trashed Kobe in his book and
Speaker 1: then was like all right, I'm back now, and You're like,
Speaker 1: what the hell, what the hell you just trash Kobe
Speaker 1: in your book, but now that but they became good again.
Speaker 1: Clearly a master at managing egos, that's what you would say.
Speaker 1: And winning heals everything. So yeah, I mean the Jordan
Speaker 1: Pippen teams with Rodman, the you know, Shaq and Kobe,
Speaker 1: and then the next the next step was you know,
Speaker 1: Kobe Gasol buying him a lot, a lot of names
Speaker 1: on this. It's pretty crazy that the only place Phil
Speaker 1: couldn't win in is New York. He won, He won
Speaker 1: championships here as a player. He as a player, but
Speaker 1: like when you get into the coaching and like the
Speaker 1: upper division depart minute, like it's it was bad luck.
Speaker 1: You can't even bring in the best coach of the
Speaker 1: history of the game to get you. Well, he was
Speaker 1: in the front office. He was sleeping at the at
Speaker 1: the practices. You'd be watching, you'd see him on ESPN
Speaker 1: and he'd just be like asleep at a practice. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you got him on camera sleeping, What the fuck is
Speaker 1: going on? Yeah, I always will love Action Jackson, Phil Jackson,
Speaker 1: the legend, but uh yeah, he was not the right
Speaker 1: not the right pick for I think he was kind
Speaker 1: of half in on that job half and got paid
Speaker 1: big money. Yeah, big money. All right, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: in Florida. Hit me up when you need me. So
Speaker 1: this game was Lakers with the number one seed in
Speaker 1: the West, Celtics with the number one in the East.
Speaker 1: The Celtics won this four to two in six games.
Speaker 1: And this was a classic game. It really you know,
Speaker 1: Pierce goes out in the wheel is in, he carried off.
Speaker 1: It was so dramatic. I was like, is this the
Speaker 1: thought he was getting helicoptered off? Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: thought I was watching Platoon. This is crazy. We lost
Speaker 1: a lot of good men out there, and Paul Pierce
Speaker 1: was one of them. After I saw this, but he
Speaker 1: comes back in the wheelchair. It was very you know,
Speaker 1: very dramatic. Or he leaves in the wheelchair. He comes
Speaker 1: back walking obviously, sprinting, sprinting, sprinting, and they're cheering like
Speaker 1: crazy in Boston, going hard any and he hit some
Speaker 1: huge buckets. Ray Allen hit some huge buckets. They were
Speaker 1: down right, they were down for Paul Pierce comes back momentum.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot there's a lot of speculation.
Speaker 1: Did he poop his pants? Did he shit his pants?
Speaker 1: That's what people I know. People are going like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? There's talk that he might have
Speaker 1: pooped his pants, But then I was looking at every
Speaker 1: angle when they were carrying them off and stuff. That
Speaker 1: would have been a hell of a play job, sell job.
Speaker 1: He could have been wearing tight undies though, and they
Speaker 1: could have caught it in maybe white white, but maybe
Speaker 1: it ducked. Maybe a turd ducked out and it was
Speaker 1: captured by the by the pants and it didn't leak out.
Speaker 1: Now I'm telling you from it experience. As a you know,
Speaker 1: professional athlete, you drink so many electrolytes, like to keep
Speaker 1: the fluids in sure that you're getting Hershey squirts, you
Speaker 1: know you're not getting You're not getting full, just turds
Speaker 1: that are fucking like thick, healthy turds. You're getting a
Speaker 1: little squirty action. Have you ever pooped your pants? No?
Speaker 1: I have not pooped my pants. I have not, ah
Speaker 1: not in the game. I may have sharded once, I
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, maybe where I don't know. I'll give you
Speaker 1: a poop a pants story if you can't come, I
Speaker 1: got I got one. You got first grade school bus
Speaker 1: midtown traffic, couldn't hold it in, had to go. I
Speaker 1: was you ship your pants? My pants on the school bus?
Speaker 1: And I remember one of the I just said, I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't last any longer. And I just went. And
Speaker 1: I remember one could go there was no way he
Speaker 1: really went. Another could touch my butt and he goes,
Speaker 1: he's not lying. It was brutal. You know, if I
Speaker 1: was there, I would have shipped my pants too, just
Speaker 1: so people. Really, you would have Billy Madison, Billy Madison,
Speaker 1: do you have new pants? Is cool? They're like no.
Speaker 1: They would have been like, it's not, it's not. Peing
Speaker 1: is okay, but too messy, It's too messy. The things
Speaker 1: we remember, do you remember Paul Pierce in that wheelchair?
Speaker 1: The Big Three? The Lakers Celtics rivalry renewed, and of
Speaker 1: course the game six kg yelling out anything is possible? Incredible. Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean things we may have forgotten. The Celtics tried
Speaker 1: to loure Reggie Miller out of retirement to join this team.
Speaker 1: They did have some og vets they at Eddie House,
Speaker 1: Scott Pollard, Sam Sam Cassell, shout out j Brown too.
Speaker 1: Lakers added Paul Gasol mid season. Paul Gasol was Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer phenomenal player. Is he in the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame yet? He will be if he's not. Mark Gasol
Speaker 1: was part of the trade for people they didn't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think they knew it was going to be
Speaker 1: Mark yet. I think was a pick that turned out
Speaker 1: to be Mark. Is it savage to be traded for
Speaker 1: your brother? I mean, I'm pretty sure Doc traded his son.
Speaker 1: Didn't he trade his son out of him? Succession level? Shit?
Speaker 1: You trade your own son and then you better win
Speaker 1: the championship if you trade your son. I think my
Speaker 1: dad could trade me. Really yeah, if I wasn't producing,
Speaker 1: my biological father released me already. Hear that. I know
Speaker 1: it works great, Dad's it worked out great for me.
Speaker 1: What do you got, Jack? Yeah? Doc Rivers traded Austin
Speaker 1: Rivers from the Clippers to the Wizards in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: Some cold blooded shit. Hey, you gotta do what you
Speaker 1: gotta do, what's best for the team. Okay, son, you're
Speaker 1: you're dead weight. You're going to the Wizards. Uh. The
Speaker 1: Gaming Corner presented by win bet so the prop bet
Speaker 1: how many times can we get Paul to mention Brian Scalabrini.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. What do you think too? It's
Speaker 1: he was like twelve man on that team, but he was.
Speaker 1: I mean, Scalabrini was fun as hell. We all love
Speaker 1: the videos of him fucking up dudes who say they
Speaker 1: could beat him one on one and then seeing how
Speaker 1: good an NBA player is and Scal just fucking them up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's always around Boston. Can you think two is a
Speaker 1: good number? Yeah, we could do. I mean I don't.
Speaker 1: I think you'll probably call him like a different nickname
Speaker 1: like scal That's fine. Yeah, I mean we can get
Speaker 1: him to mention him twice, that's good. How many times
Speaker 1: can Julian say? Ain't that the truth? Can we go
Speaker 1: three on that? What do you think? What do you think? Three? Four,
Speaker 1: four five, twenty five? Two point five? Two point five?
Speaker 1: All right? I think said twenty five, Like, man, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a bad interview. Ain't that the truth?
Speaker 1: At a certain point to just go can you stop
Speaker 1: saying that? Ain't that the truth? Before we hear from
Speaker 1: our guest Paul Pierce, let's take a quick break, and
Speaker 1: we're here on games with names presented by When Bett
Speaker 1: and we're joined by my partner in crime, literally, figuratively,
Speaker 1: in every kind of way you can think. Paul Pierce,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming, Thank you for coming. On. What's up,
Speaker 1: my boy? What's going on? How you been man? I'm
Speaker 1: just out here lounging in this good California eighty degree
Speaker 1: weather son. Yeah, I mean, I know, I miss it already.
Speaker 1: It's fifty and rainy here in New York. Fifty and rainy.
Speaker 1: It's not that bad. Come on, it was York slander
Speaker 1: on this pod. It wasn't too bad. It wasn't too bad.
Speaker 1: We can have two Boston sports legends and you have.
Speaker 1: Have you trash in New York on this podcast? Come on,
Speaker 1: as you can see he's in New York. We always
Speaker 1: go trash New York exactly. You did enough to me
Speaker 1: as a Knicks fan, Paul, Come on, I mean, Boston legend,
Speaker 1: ten time All Star, NBA Champ Finals MVP, most importantly
Speaker 1: born in the Bay. Yeah you Bay baby kid. I
Speaker 1: am too. Grew up in Inglewood, went to Kansas Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year in ninety eight, ten time All Star, Yeah,
Speaker 1: NBA Champion Finals MVP. His numbers hanging in the Rafters
Speaker 1: at the garden they call him the truth? Is that
Speaker 1: the best nickname in the NBA? You think I think
Speaker 1: it is. It's got to be up there. There's some
Speaker 1: good ones, though. The answer is pretty good. The answer magic, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Larry Legend. But look, it's not easy to get a nickname.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody don't got one. If you got a nickname,
Speaker 1: that means you're doing something right. I had to give
Speaker 1: myself a nickname. They call me the Squirrel because I
Speaker 1: like squirrels. So hey, hey, hey, hey, what yeah crazy?
Speaker 1: We got Paul. So you guys are literally partners in crime,
Speaker 1: which you glossed over. But you did both get arrested together, right, No, well,
Speaker 1: technically it was a citizen citation arrest. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can't even hood slide anymore. Starts getting hood should slide.
Speaker 1: I mean, Paul was right there. This I would alwin Paul,
Speaker 1: do you remember it? Duh? I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 1: That was the weakest hood slide ever. You didn't even
Speaker 1: make it all as I was like, you like slid
Speaker 1: and then stopped in the middle. I was like, oh nah,
Speaker 1: it was my jeans. There was no slide. There was
Speaker 1: too much friction. I couldn't. Just like in the movies,
Speaker 1: they clearly whax those cars. They're wearing like some kind
Speaker 1: of nylon pant, me wearing straight jeans. Go over there
Speaker 1: and I kind of stuck. Homeboy gets out of car,
Speaker 1: waves down a cop. They start hemming me up. Paul's
Speaker 1: over there. Paul had my back. Though Paul had my back,
Speaker 1: He's like, nah, he get off. He didn't do shit,
Speaker 1: He didn't do shit. Nah. Look it was Look, first
Speaker 1: of all, it was like, all right, we were speck
Speaker 1: at a restaurant doing Remember it was a stick up
Speaker 1: or something. It was a robbery. Yeah, And it was
Speaker 1: like we were stuck at a restaurant, couldn't leave, and
Speaker 1: they were already like twenty five cops like right there anyway,
Speaker 1: were the cops that just hit pumped to meet both
Speaker 1: of you. It was like, uh, I look, I thought
Speaker 1: it was nothing. Dump. I was just like, ah, but
Speaker 1: if you had to I think if you had to,
Speaker 1: if you had to land at the slide, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been nothing. But since you scared and stopped, it
Speaker 1: was a thing. That's probably exactly what it was. But
Speaker 1: what he's failing to tell you is we were on
Speaker 1: our way to leave and we couldn't leave the place
Speaker 1: for two and a half hours. So what did we do.
Speaker 1: We just drank tequila all night long. We get done right,
Speaker 1: we think we get out of it scot free. We
Speaker 1: go back to the house. We're over here like, it's
Speaker 1: not on TMZ, it's not out. We're having the best
Speaker 1: night of our life. We go out and we're playing
Speaker 1: one on one basketball at SOHO house. People are over
Speaker 1: here like, what's going on. We're having the times of
Speaker 1: our life. Wake up in the morning to three hundred
Speaker 1: text messages from my agent this that it was welcome
Speaker 1: to the club. Uh, you know, I had my one
Speaker 1: Internet moment, welcome to the club. Hey, I started the club.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Paul versus you and
Speaker 1: basketball is not a fair No, it wasn't. It wasn't
Speaker 1: he was he was. It was bad out about that.
Speaker 1: We're like, no, we're like in the kitchen doing moves
Speaker 1: on each other or something. Remember we were doing that
Speaker 1: at Soho. Remember, like in the middle of the place,
Speaker 1: dunking on like uh, like the the chandeliers and stuff.
Speaker 1: People are sitting here like, is that Paul Pierce and
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman playing basketball without a basketball in a restaurant.
Speaker 1: Uh so, Paul, we want to talk to me. And
Speaker 1: this is like the year the Big Three came together.
Speaker 1: This was kind of like, in my lifetime, kind of
Speaker 1: the first super team. You know, like people we'll talk
Speaker 1: about the Celtics and the sixties being a super team,
Speaker 1: but this was like you were a franchise guy. KG
Speaker 1: was a franchise guy. Ray was a franchise guy. You're
Speaker 1: all kind of around the same age ish, right like
Speaker 1: around thirty ish. We all kind of as a Knicks fan,
Speaker 1: I hated the Celtics, but I respected all you so
Speaker 1: much for just carrying franchises and being loyal to those franchises.
Speaker 1: Like these were trades, These weren't free agency things. We're like, well,
Speaker 1: how jacked up were you to go from the worst
Speaker 1: team in the league to being like, oh shit, we
Speaker 1: have championship hopes. Man. You know, that was an interesting
Speaker 1: summer because we had the worst record and it was
Speaker 1: just like my career was in limbo. It was like,
Speaker 1: I gonna get traded. What are we gonna do? We
Speaker 1: up for the number one pick, and the number one pick,
Speaker 1: as you all know, uh should have been the Ramt,
Speaker 1: but it was Grand Odin and I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, the subjects are headed in a different direction.
Speaker 1: I'm in like my eighth or ninth year and in
Speaker 1: the middle of a re build, and you know, things
Speaker 1: just we did get the first pick, then the trade
Speaker 1: was made, but for Ray. Then we traded for Kevin,
Speaker 1: and it were just like whoa. It happened so fast
Speaker 1: that it was just like, you know, it was like
Speaker 1: going from a Corolla to a Ferrari night I like those,
Speaker 1: unless Corola wants to sponsor this, in which case your
Speaker 1: cars are awesome as well. But uh no, dude. I
Speaker 1: remember watching that being like, oh, the Celtics are gonna win.
Speaker 1: I remember just thinking like I know, when when stars
Speaker 1: come together, but like you guys fit well together, like
Speaker 1: when Lebron and Wade one reason together dogs every one
Speaker 1: of them were dogs. But when Lebron and Wade go together,
Speaker 1: like they both kind of are like they do kind
Speaker 1: of similar things, you know, whereas like Ray's just this
Speaker 1: great shooter, You're this great scorer. KG is an anchor
Speaker 1: who can score like you. Guys all kind of fit
Speaker 1: different needs, right right. That's why it was like The
Speaker 1: perfect Storm was what we call it. We call it
Speaker 1: the perfect Storm. We had other nicknames that people didn't
Speaker 1: know about. We were not only the Big Three. We
Speaker 1: were called the Holy Trinity. We were called the Perfect Storm.
Speaker 1: So these are nicknames that went under the rug. But
Speaker 1: everybody just chose to use the Big Three the Holy Trinity.
Speaker 1: Can you explain that to two Jewish people please? Right here? Oh,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Half a star of David bab Okay,
Speaker 1: that's half, but uh so, I mean that team was stacked,
Speaker 1: and then you have role players added, guys who are
Speaker 1: like killers, like little young Young Rondo, who's you know,
Speaker 1: a killer? James Posey, Eddie House, big Baby, Tony Allen,
Speaker 1: Tony Allen. People forget damn. He was another one, y'all.
Speaker 1: If we had had a team fight with anybody in
Speaker 1: the league, Perkins, we would have beat everybody up. See dogs,
Speaker 1: And that's and that's a perfect that's a perfect team
Speaker 1: for Boston, you know, just a tough town, you know,
Speaker 1: not that doesn't need to be like bright light, you
Speaker 1: know Broadway shows. Give us like a Celtics game, a
Speaker 1: Patriots game, a Bruins game, Go get a hot dog
Speaker 1: at a socks game. You know, it's just different in Boston. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just different. Man. I was just talking about somebody
Speaker 1: the other day. I need to go to a SOCE
Speaker 1: game and give me one of those one of those
Speaker 1: Italian sausages right there right outside thirty. Dude, I miss
Speaker 1: That's That's what I miss already so much, just being
Speaker 1: around the city. It was a dope city. How do you?
Speaker 1: How do you transform though? Born in the Bay, grew
Speaker 1: up in La huge Lakers fan as a kid, and
Speaker 1: then you become probably one of the biggest pieces of
Speaker 1: one of the the Boston Celtics. Like you're you are
Speaker 1: in the rafters, you are a goat of the Celtics. Like,
Speaker 1: how did when you first got there? What were you feeling? Like?
Speaker 1: Were you mixed emotions on this man? It was like
Speaker 1: it was real mixed emotions because but one, I didn't
Speaker 1: even work out for the Celtics. It was just like
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be in the top five Celtics.
Speaker 1: Wasn't even on my radar. But then it was just
Speaker 1: like they picked me, and I was just like, man,
Speaker 1: it's hard. You know, you you're happy to get drafted,
Speaker 1: so you in the draft room and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm about to be one of the top picks, and
Speaker 1: you're like you're you're happy where you go. But for me,
Speaker 1: when I got picked by the Celtics, it was like
Speaker 1: happy to get drafted. But then it was just like huh.
Speaker 1: It was like uh, it was like almost like that
Speaker 1: fake smile. It was like like what like what just
Speaker 1: happened kind of moment, But because it was just like, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm really gonna find out who my friends are really,
Speaker 1: who gonna really come to the game, and where that
Speaker 1: Celtic jersey being at all my friends are from La.
Speaker 1: You know who's gonna ride or die with your boy
Speaker 1: Pete Peete. So that's when I really found out who
Speaker 1: my true friends was. Did you lose a lot of
Speaker 1: those friends or did you have some day ones? And
Speaker 1: I invited one of my voys to the Laker game,
Speaker 1: right he rolled up in the Kobe jersey. Man, he
Speaker 1: came into Kobe jersey. I could not believe that. That's rough.
Speaker 1: I put him rock in the front wrong, like what,
Speaker 1: oh man, come on man, what are we doing? Thats
Speaker 1: messed up? Oh man? I never gave him any more.
Speaker 1: Tevus to a game. He can't, he's gone, he's banned. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up with you know obviously Kobe, you got any
Speaker 1: crazy competitive stories of that of that series against him, Man,
Speaker 1: Kobe is always like to call certain people just hand made.
Speaker 1: It was he was different. It was just like you
Speaker 1: couldn't shake him. You couldn't rattle them, if you notice,
Speaker 1: in that series, and they got pictures of this since
Speaker 1: these times me rodn Per getting his face talking ship
Speaker 1: to him and like he's just looking like with this
Speaker 1: real stoic look, like who are y'all? Like, what are y'all? Who? Like,
Speaker 1: what have y'all done? Like? And it was just like, dude,
Speaker 1: you cannot get him out of his game. But then
Speaker 1: like being away from him, away from the game of basketball,
Speaker 1: where I you know, I had a chance to be
Speaker 1: around them quite a few times. Either a total different person,
Speaker 1: you're not. You know, him and Kevin are similar because
Speaker 1: you look at Kevin and people are intimidated by him
Speaker 1: and you see this guy, sweating person and competitive. But
Speaker 1: then off the court, man, it was some of the
Speaker 1: nicest people you want to be around. And it's just
Speaker 1: like it's amazing how they flip the switch from the
Speaker 1: basketball person to this to walk around, you know, Dad,
Speaker 1: in between it's in between the lines, you know, And
Speaker 1: those are the greats. Those those kind of guys had
Speaker 1: to create stories in their head or or manipulate their
Speaker 1: mind to get the best kind of play. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I get that. That's how mommies, you know, Tom, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: you don't have to be mad at the kid in
Speaker 1: eighth grade that started over you in basketball. I think
Speaker 1: you're doing but you do because that's still mad about it,
Speaker 1: and he he still will probably try to fight this
Speaker 1: guy or compete against the sea. And you see Jordan's
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame speech, He's like, still mad at dudes
Speaker 1: where were Like, you're Michael Jordan, you did okay. But
Speaker 1: it's what fuels the greats, I think is like you
Speaker 1: hold on the ship, you know. Similarities in the two
Speaker 1: and those are the grades of the Mount Rushmore of sports.
Speaker 1: And they share a lot of exciting characteristics. They do
Speaker 1: the same, They share a lot of the same characteristics
Speaker 1: to women. I date, they can't get over things there
Speaker 1: uh no. Uh but uh so this I have to
Speaker 1: say as a hoops fan, just as someone who loves
Speaker 1: and respects basketball players. I'm happy that it seems like
Speaker 1: you guys patch stuff up with Ray Allen. That was
Speaker 1: just it bummed me out as a sports fan because
Speaker 1: left us bro Yeah, left us. It was a tough breakup.
Speaker 1: But you know, as we all know, time hills wounds.
Speaker 1: And I'm happy that he was able to tend kg's
Speaker 1: retirement ceremony and uh we can do it in front
Speaker 1: of our national crowd and they can see that. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, the beef is over. You know we did
Speaker 1: something special together, and uh we'll always be faundly. But
Speaker 1: but you know what I love about Boston sports, you know,
Speaker 1: like me and and l and you know Big Poppy
Speaker 1: is just like when you play in Boston, it's like
Speaker 1: we family because we all go to each other games,
Speaker 1: we all support each other. I don't really see that
Speaker 1: in other cities. I think, you know, especially La people
Speaker 1: go to the case to be seen. It was just
Speaker 1: like my spot one of them out. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: so it's like we've known each other for years and
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's like something about the board Boston
Speaker 1: sports family. It's like one big family. For example, like
Speaker 1: me and me Paul knew of each other We probably
Speaker 1: saw each other at events and stuff, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: until I got arrested when we bonded. That was when
Speaker 1: we really bonded. Recreate this in Boston because no Boston
Speaker 1: cop is going to touch either of you. Now, that's
Speaker 1: how you recreate it can't but you can't. But so
Speaker 1: let's let's shift to this game. Game one. We know
Speaker 1: it is the wheelchair game. We know it is Paul
Speaker 1: leaving the game incredible. There's a lot of story. Are
Speaker 1: you smiling? Maybe you might have heard some of the rumors, Paul?
Speaker 1: Why are you smiling? Paul? It was an iconic moment,
Speaker 1: you know. So you know, people don't have their various
Speaker 1: stories about it, and that's fine. People are going to
Speaker 1: create their own narrative. Do you think the pooping the
Speaker 1: pants rumor helps or hurts the mythos of the of
Speaker 1: the series? I mean, they trying to put a black
Speaker 1: mark on it. Everybody, come on, So I looked at
Speaker 1: every TV angle that you possibly could. You guys were
Speaker 1: wearing the white unis okay, And as a professional athlete,
Speaker 1: I know we have to has so many electrolytes that
Speaker 1: when you ship there's gonna be some squirting, so you
Speaker 1: would have saw a squirt mark. He did not ship
Speaker 1: his fucking pants, Guys, his pants. He hurts me, and
Speaker 1: then he miraculously came out and fucking scored and won
Speaker 1: the game for him. We're gonna watch this like the
Speaker 1: JFK tapes to make sure this didn't happen. But no
Speaker 1: around and on the ground. If I did, like who
Speaker 1: does that, wouldn't that be kind of disgusting. I'm glad
Speaker 1: that we were clearing this up. Okay, this is coming
Speaker 1: from him, guys. He would not lie to me. No,
Speaker 1: the only shit that I did was on the Lakers exactly.
Speaker 1: You come back and you guys are down for right,
Speaker 1: so you come back in the game down for What
Speaker 1: are you thinking? Man, I'm just feeling the energy from
Speaker 1: the crowd. You know. I get to the back, I
Speaker 1: put the knee brace on my knee is kind of loose,
Speaker 1: and the diagnostis the injury was a straight maniscus. We
Speaker 1: can clear it up, which it was for the whole series,
Speaker 1: and you know people do that in sports, but then
Speaker 1: you can still play on it, especially gentlemen. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's the finals. I'm like, I might not ever
Speaker 1: get this opportunity again. I'm coming off, I'm feeding off
Speaker 1: the crowd, and I'm like, I need to get back
Speaker 1: in this game. Because if you notice, I didn't even
Speaker 1: sit down when I came back. I went like straight
Speaker 1: to the straight to the score table to check right
Speaker 1: back in and the dreddler was there, and I was
Speaker 1: just like, I gotta be out here, and you know,
Speaker 1: then Rondo got me going, we got we got the ball,
Speaker 1: pushing it on the brake, I'm open from three. I
Speaker 1: just was like, I was just like, I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: it ride. And then the momentum just shifted, and h
Speaker 1: that was an amazing feeling, because you know, they were
Speaker 1: they were a tough team. When you got Kobe Bryant,
Speaker 1: the all time great, one of the greatest to ever
Speaker 1: do it on one side, and everybody knows when you've
Speaker 1: got a player of that caliber, anything happened, you know.
Speaker 1: And we're in Boston, so we can't lose at home. Man,
Speaker 1: come on to the Lakers and they, you know, gasol
Speaker 1: owed them. It is a tough LA team that you're
Speaker 1: going against. Do you think this shifted the momentum for
Speaker 1: the whole series? Like you coming in, it seemed like
Speaker 1: you guys had so much momentum after that. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because like when I rewatch it, it's like, if I'm hurting,
Speaker 1: I'm out for the series. You got to understand. Out
Speaker 1: of the when I went down, the air out of
Speaker 1: the building left. So it's like, dang, if Paul Pierce
Speaker 1: is done for the series or out for any amount
Speaker 1: of time, the chances of us being the Lakers goes down.
Speaker 1: And so when I come back, that momentum to be like, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's out there, he's playing, he's not injury. We got him,
Speaker 1: We were back, We're back forming bull Tron. Man, it
Speaker 1: gave the city and the fans so much of a
Speaker 1: lift to know that I was going to be back
Speaker 1: and I was out there that it just carried over
Speaker 1: for the rest of the series. Yeah. Well, Paul, we
Speaker 1: have a note here that you refer to yourself as
Speaker 1: the Rodney Dangerfield of basketball. Did this put some respect
Speaker 1: on your name after this? Ain't that the truth? Yeah? Man,
Speaker 1: just no respect, you know, and that's all good. Hey,
Speaker 1: everybody came where you know, you know, some of us
Speaker 1: got to wear the black hat, and I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, Paul, haters are gonna hate. Players are
Speaker 1: gonna play. Like Taylor Swift said, you just gotta shake
Speaker 1: it off, shake it off. You know it? Man? Man,
Speaker 1: I love y'all set up in there. Man, what y'all got?
Speaker 1: What's on that won? Right? We got everything. We need
Speaker 1: a picture of you. If you sent a signed jersey,
Speaker 1: we'll fucking put you right right up here. Look, look,
Speaker 1: we need to put that picture of me you from
Speaker 1: that night Jack Sam, can we get that done? We
Speaker 1: are definitely going to put that up there. I love it.
Speaker 1: It's you. Remember that though that we thought we got
Speaker 1: away Scott Free. No one knew it. What was what
Speaker 1: was the big ticket? Like as a motivator like I
Speaker 1: just as a spectator, his energy just seemed insane. He
Speaker 1: just seemed like a dude I would want to go
Speaker 1: to war with. Was he just amazing in huddles? I
Speaker 1: mean not only huddles, but I'm talking about practice. Right
Speaker 1: when you come to practice, I know all the young guys,
Speaker 1: but if KG walk into the locker room, we better
Speaker 1: not see none of the young guys sitting down at
Speaker 1: the locker. They better be in the way room. They
Speaker 1: better be either in the training room or on the
Speaker 1: court getting some pre pre practice shots up. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Well, eating a loud for no lolly gagging,
Speaker 1: and and it was just like, man, let me tell
Speaker 1: you this one story. So this is pre season. The
Speaker 1: season after started, so KG, everybody's in town like September.
Speaker 1: We all playing pickup games and one of the rookie
Speaker 1: didn't have his shoes, so he looking around. He grabbed
Speaker 1: a pair of KG shoes right, and he balled in
Speaker 1: them for the pickup game. So KG gets to the gym,
Speaker 1: he like, where are my shoes at? And I'm looking like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: no the rookie didn't put him back. Oh this is
Speaker 1: gonna be bad. Man. Let me tell you that was
Speaker 1: the worst year for this guy. And then I think
Speaker 1: he eventually got traded. I mean he was on K.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be on KG bad side. That's
Speaker 1: a like, don't grab somebody else's shoes because it's a
Speaker 1: lot of guys wear the same size, but don't grab
Speaker 1: at G shoes And he come in looking for them
Speaker 1: and you got them on, Like, come on, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Isn't this the National Basketball Association? Don't we have like
Speaker 1: shoes galore in our locker? Rooms. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This rookie. I don't know what he thought. He just
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna grab KG shoes like anybody kgs
Speaker 1: Why that's like basically like taking Deebo's chain, just ganking chain,
Speaker 1: saying nah, that's that's not gonna happen. I remember we
Speaker 1: were together and he facetimed KG and I can't really
Speaker 1: I don't remember what he said, but I just remember
Speaker 1: the feelings I had. I wanted to run through the
Speaker 1: fucking phone like he motivated me where I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go do something right now, like let's
Speaker 1: go fucking I want to play basketball. I don't even
Speaker 1: know how to play basketball, but I'll fucking go play
Speaker 1: with this guy. No, it's on it's on the record.
Speaker 1: Taking KG shoes is the equivalent of killing John Wick's dog.
Speaker 1: That's basically where we're at. Straight up, you just don't
Speaker 1: do it. Absolutely not so so this series, like when
Speaker 1: you win this series, because I mean, we're talking about
Speaker 1: this game, but it's really this series, because this was epic.
Speaker 1: This was I mean, you think it's good for basketball
Speaker 1: to have the rivalries. And I remember after that championship.
Speaker 1: You said you feel like the best player in the league.
Speaker 1: And what I mean did you feel that way where
Speaker 1: You're like, was that just like talking ship? Did you
Speaker 1: really think like I, I feel like I can play
Speaker 1: with anybody? Was your confidence just like? Up here? Man?
Speaker 1: Come on, Hires, you just come off a playoff series
Speaker 1: where you go total toe with Lebron, you beat the
Speaker 1: bad boys Pistons, and you go total toe with Kobe?
Speaker 1: How you post to feel? How you? I agree, Kobe
Speaker 1: all time deep ist? I mean, how do you post
Speaker 1: to feel like? I just beat up Hawk, the Hawk
Speaker 1: and thrower in the in in one year? What I'm
Speaker 1: sposed to feel a lot the way you feel? For sure,
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, I'm like when people saying, like, what
Speaker 1: is he talking about? Man speaks truth? You want to
Speaker 1: call him the truth and the truth. Hey, we got
Speaker 1: a picture Red our bock up here. You got my
Speaker 1: man Red up there? Yeah? You got you were around
Speaker 1: him right early in your career. Yeah, I gotta be
Speaker 1: fictioning Red man, cool guy. You know, we always knew
Speaker 1: Red was in the building. Cigar smoke, you know. And
Speaker 1: I sit in the locker room, I put my socks
Speaker 1: on I'm getting ready to warm up and while you
Speaker 1: start smelling the cigar, and I'm just like, okay, Red
Speaker 1: is here. He was the only one in the NBA
Speaker 1: I was allowed to smoke a cigar indoors. You watching
Speaker 1: that Showtime Show or the Have you seen that at all?
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it yet. I've been hearing about it.
Speaker 1: You've been watching it. It's pretty fun. It's fun. You'll
Speaker 1: probably love it because it's you know, that's your generation ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to check it out. I've been waiting for
Speaker 1: it to end so I could just kind of like
Speaker 1: binge watch it. But I heard it some good stuff
Speaker 1: in there. I heard it's entertaining. It's entertaining. It's entertaining.
Speaker 1: Some liberties are taking I think they do Jerry West
Speaker 1: little dirty. But then Jerry West saying he'll take this
Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court is exactly what Jerry West and
Speaker 1: that show would have done, so he's got to not
Speaker 1: say that. But uh, but they do Jerry West a
Speaker 1: little dirty in the show. Jerry's a legend. You can't
Speaker 1: you can't do him dirty like that. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: worth a watch. Yeah, I gotta check that out. So
Speaker 1: red Aarbach. Any other early Celtics memories, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I remember those early days. I loved watching you guys
Speaker 1: with Antoine Walker and Kenny Anderson. Those were fun teams.
Speaker 1: Or any memories of those teams, Oh man, I loved
Speaker 1: playing with that team. Antwine, me and Twine Man. People
Speaker 1: forget that me and him used to shoot threes like
Speaker 1: they shoot now. It was like Twan used to shoot
Speaker 1: ten threes a game and people was like criticizing them
Speaker 1: for but I'm like, that's the norm now, That's what
Speaker 1: the big men are doing though, And he's my favorite
Speaker 1: quote from an Twine was like, well he said when
Speaker 1: they asked them, why do you shoot so many three
Speaker 1: poin and as you know what he said, because they
Speaker 1: don't have four pointers. After after, you guys, go beat
Speaker 1: these dudes up and beat l A, Boston l A.
Speaker 1: How was the celebration? I was a parade. The parade
Speaker 1: was lit. I remember, uh we were where was we at? Man?
Speaker 1: We were having drinks and the champagne. And I remember
Speaker 1: getting on the dug boat and were riding around the
Speaker 1: city and I had a cigar and I don't I don't,
Speaker 1: I would never I don't think I was smoking cigars
Speaker 1: at the time, and I just remember like I got
Speaker 1: a hairbrush and I went back into the dug boat
Speaker 1: and threw up like it was crazy, but it was
Speaker 1: that was that was that was a time right there. Man.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's nothing like going around the city. You
Speaker 1: see people hanging out the windows street lands. Oh man,
Speaker 1: So you guys pretty much revolutionized. You guys are the
Speaker 1: original super team. Well you' it's arguable that that's you
Speaker 1: guys are the reason Lebron did it, right. Yeah, Unfortunately
Speaker 1: we started something crazy and then as you see after
Speaker 1: that Lebron that you've seen the Golden State Wars, they
Speaker 1: took it to the next level with super teams. They
Speaker 1: went super super team on everybody. Yeah, we started a trend.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think you know, the balance of
Speaker 1: power is back, but you know, we we we started
Speaker 1: a trend at the time that it was like, wow,
Speaker 1: what did we create in the NBA? What did we do?
Speaker 1: But it was fun. It was fun when their favorite
Speaker 1: players played together were what that looked like? And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm happy that I had a chance to
Speaker 1: play with two all time greats. You guys are kind
Speaker 1: of like social media you know, you guys invented something.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh, this is great. We get to internet
Speaker 1: with friends from twenty years ago. And then also we
Speaker 1: give people that have an opinion. Everyone gets an opinion now,
Speaker 1: and everyone's gonna hate on you and everyone, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you guys are, but they didn't
Speaker 1: get you guys didn't get the hate for I think
Speaker 1: other reasons. I think like you guys had all kind
Speaker 1: of carried franchise that weren't winning on your own, and
Speaker 1: I think people wanted to think it is the way
Speaker 1: we came together was different. You know. It was to pray,
Speaker 1: you know now it was like, oh, I'm a free agent.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go play over there with them. We lest
Speaker 1: create our all ours kind of like had to be manufactured,
Speaker 1: you know, it had to be organically done. It was
Speaker 1: just like everybody else was just like put together. They
Speaker 1: had the pieces that they just put together and went
Speaker 1: over here. Oh they were given they were given kg
Speaker 1: no help in Minnesota at all. I mean watching him
Speaker 1: play at that intensity on a team where they just
Speaker 1: weren't giving him weapons was tough to watch. You know,
Speaker 1: how would you guys been nowadays? What me and Kevin,
Speaker 1: how would this team do in this generation? Oh man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna crush this era. Come on, man, we got
Speaker 1: the shooting, we got indoors, we got inside gay outside game,
Speaker 1: my game perfect with this Asda's Kevin and SODA's Ray. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm watching Ray, watching Ray do some of these shots.
Speaker 1: He didn't shoot the volume of threes that you see
Speaker 1: guys shooting out. Neither of you. It was a different game.
Speaker 1: But like if you guys were jacking threes, I totally agree.
Speaker 1: I think this team would be so good in the
Speaker 1: modern embody. We would adjust with this error because we
Speaker 1: all was you know, Ray was really good through poet shooters,
Speaker 1: because shoot. By the time I went out into my career,
Speaker 1: I was fourced all time at three pointers base, which
Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't know, and Ray was was first.
Speaker 1: So if you want to talk about playing in this
Speaker 1: are we would have did just fine. You could. I
Speaker 1: just always remember I would always go to the games
Speaker 1: and see Paul playing sit on the court, and he'd
Speaker 1: always just have the nastiest grimey finishes guy on him
Speaker 1: and wond them. Then he started talking that shit, give
Speaker 1: a fucking give one of these to the crowd, crowds
Speaker 1: going pee pee pee. It was just you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't see. I don't see the emotion from the
Speaker 1: players like that. No more, man, I don't s I
Speaker 1: like when you know, you know, when guys getting all
Speaker 1: getting the crowded too. It the crowd feel that they
Speaker 1: feed off of that. Everyone. John Moran seems like he's
Speaker 1: bringing some of that energy back. He plays with a
Speaker 1: lot of energy. I think, who are guys that are
Speaker 1: you watching now? Who you're like? Oh? I like that
Speaker 1: dude a lot. He would have been great in my error?
Speaker 1: Who are dudes like that? Man? Giannis ante tacunpo? He
Speaker 1: is straight mean the way he dunck on people in
Speaker 1: the flexes, muscles and just be looking with that ground.
Speaker 1: He'd be like, whoa holdroll vic Bella, he's me. He
Speaker 1: can play in the air. He monster too. That euro
Speaker 1: step Yeah that's unreal. Who anyone else? Let me see,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, of course, Lebron he can play in
Speaker 1: any era. Went tough, but like that intensive we talked
Speaker 1: about the intense think about with young Westbrook, him young
Speaker 1: with Oklahoma City Westbrook, Yeah, that was different. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about how disrespected he got this year. I
Speaker 1: feel like he really got. He was made the scapegoat
Speaker 1: for Los Angeles. I don't think it was really fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's he looking for a scapegot. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that that's the blank for this.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Westbrook is an
Speaker 1: all time great player, don't you remember top seventy five,
Speaker 1: and so you know La always looking the point that
Speaker 1: they had, always got to point the finger at somebody.
Speaker 1: So he was the scapegoat exactly. Well, Paul, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Man. Anything we missed about
Speaker 1: this game before before we wrap up, anything about this
Speaker 1: series that you want to add before we go, And
Speaker 1: last confirmation, it was not a shit guys. It's not
Speaker 1: all you fucking people in here. Everyone in this we
Speaker 1: had a hope, We have a whole We have like
Speaker 1: a little stand of people. They're always here talking about like, hey,
Speaker 1: I think penned so I'm like, nah, he would never
Speaker 1: sh his pants. It's Paul Pierce. Man. Everybody just mad
Speaker 1: that we beat they you know, favorite team, that song,
Speaker 1: you know, Boston, we wanted that, We wanted the more
Speaker 1: hated sports cities anyway, because we win so much. So
Speaker 1: you know that's just what it's gonna be. And I'm
Speaker 1: cool with that. Everyone can't be winners. Yeah, come on now,
Speaker 1: you know it's but the NIX will rise again. Uh,
Speaker 1: not in our lifetime, buddy, Not in our lifetime, Paul,
Speaker 1: I gotta hit you up when I get out there.
Speaker 1: I'll be out there soon. We gotta get up. We
Speaker 1: I mean, we always say it. Can we fucking do
Speaker 1: this now? Or what? Have some dinner, some breaks, hang out,
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Thank you, appreciate you man, Thank you man,
Speaker 1: Thanks for doing this always love. Always hit me up
Speaker 1: if you ever need anything. All right, my boy? All right, bro,
Speaker 1: he's wow. Paul Pierce legend, no filter there, he's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's awesome. The truth. I knew it was gonna be
Speaker 1: a great interview when he rolled up with a hookah.
Speaker 1: That's the hookahs. Probably why we failed on the prop bets,
Speaker 1: because we were probably distracted by the swag to come
Speaker 1: on here pool side with chocolate mint hookah. I mean
Speaker 1: chocolate mint more of a great mint hookah. I got
Speaker 1: myself great mint. Great men. I don't know why, but
Speaker 1: when you go like, I got some friends and they're
Speaker 1: from like Europe, and people from Europe love hookah, yeah,
Speaker 1: or like Israel, a lot of hookah like hookers are
Speaker 1: there there hookers? Yeah? No, yeah, I did, but they
Speaker 1: always mix a fruit with mint and it actually it's
Speaker 1: pretty good. It's pretty good. Not gonna lie that. It
Speaker 1: takes me back to when I had a fake ID
Speaker 1: or even pre fake id'ed. That was like the place
Speaker 1: that wouldn't card you to get booze. Yeah, who's classic,
Speaker 1: And I mean that's like a power move to have
Speaker 1: it in your house. I got. I got a couple
Speaker 1: of hookahs. You have hookah at home. I had a
Speaker 1: friend that's we houkahed one time and they sent a
Speaker 1: me a hookah. It's a badass hookah too. It's just
Speaker 1: a fun thing to have around, like to socialize with.
Speaker 1: People love it. You get your own little hose. Everyone
Speaker 1: has their little cap so we keep it COVID friendly.
Speaker 1: You get to mix up different like flavors. You try
Speaker 1: to explain how you got COVID to your wife. It
Speaker 1: was from a hookah. I got it from a hookah.
Speaker 1: What was that we failed to get Paul to mention
Speaker 1: Brian Scalabrini at all. That was that was on us.
Speaker 1: Did we get did we get? They? Ain't that the truth? Jack?
Speaker 1: I think we ended up under we only had two
Speaker 1: and a half or two? Yeah we had two? Yeah
Speaker 1: that's weak. Who was Was this the beginning of the
Speaker 1: Super Team era? I'd say absolute? Yeah, I mean this
Speaker 1: is what started at NBA. Danny Ainge, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: you think of him, he was. He was a good
Speaker 1: GM for Boston. I like Danny Age. I got to
Speaker 1: hang around him a little bit when I was with
Speaker 1: the Celtics for a while. You could just tell he's
Speaker 1: a competitive guy. Does anything. He's an old school guy
Speaker 1: that like probably it took he had to go to
Speaker 1: the long road, the herd. He was just always like
Speaker 1: a tough You could just tell whenever he was talking
Speaker 1: to guys he was competitive. You know, would you remember
Speaker 1: anything he said to you? He was. He was always
Speaker 1: kind of you know, trying to feel me out on
Speaker 1: how we did things in New England, you know, and
Speaker 1: and sometimes you know it'd be it wouldn't we wouldn't
Speaker 1: see eyed eye on something, and he would, you know,
Speaker 1: he could see that he was like competing while while
Speaker 1: we were talking about him, like oh dude, thank you
Speaker 1: for letting me be here. But that's just kind of
Speaker 1: guy he is. He's competitor. Yeah, you get that with
Speaker 1: some of these old school guys in a winner. He
Speaker 1: was a winner, a winner from his playing days. Cool
Speaker 1: to get to do it with your old with your
Speaker 1: old franchise. I will say, we didn't mention this, but
Speaker 1: getting Garnett for what he shipped out that was a
Speaker 1: little That was a little gift from his old teammate
Speaker 1: Kevin McHale who was the GM in Minnesota. That was
Speaker 1: not an even That was insane that they got Kevin
Speaker 1: Garnett for like Al Jefferson and some moving parts, you know,
Speaker 1: but hey, it worked. You got to keep those relationships tight.
Speaker 1: He kept them tight. But favor is owed. It was
Speaker 1: he owes him a favor. I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: but this was Kobe's revenge era. Following this series of
Speaker 1: Lakers going to win the two thousand and nine and
Speaker 1: ten finals. This is the Kobe Gasol partnership. This is
Speaker 1: that started. And you know, so I think the Lakers
Speaker 1: won the following year against Orlando and then they beat
Speaker 1: the Celtics, so there was that rivalry popped off again.
Speaker 1: So I thought I was at the winning one. Actually
Speaker 1: I was at the losing one, damn, So maybe I
Speaker 1: maybe I cursed him. No, dude, no, it was Uh
Speaker 1: probably won't be allowed back over at the garden. As
Speaker 1: long as you win one, the experiment works. I think
Speaker 1: I think it's this is one of some many sports romances.
Speaker 1: Obviously KG and Pierce, Kobe Gasol, Julian and Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: We got a bromance. We do, but it's you know,
Speaker 1: relationships have their up and downs. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if we're at a high right now. He's playing still,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm podcasting your money. Your my new bromance. Dude,
Speaker 1: I'm honored. This is I'm gonna make Pop and Tim Duncan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a bromance for sure. There are Pop coach.
Speaker 1: Pop's a legend unsung hero. KG had twenty four in
Speaker 1: Game one, largely just a monster in the final. You know,
Speaker 1: KG is the defensive anchor, just tenacity. Yeah, he just
Speaker 1: brings an attitude that not on my court, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Oh yeah, like a beast. He's he's
Speaker 1: we were talking about. He's one of those guys that
Speaker 1: like visualize the ship, like to type him up, like
Speaker 1: he'll he'll take some ship from back in the past
Speaker 1: that happened to him, and he'll he'll explain it to himself.
Speaker 1: Right before a player or a game. You'd see him
Speaker 1: over hitting the posts and stuff. You remember, that's what
Speaker 1: the grades do. They're like, this guy fucked my mom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mess him up. Remember remember the what was
Speaker 1: that movie? Uh, the water Boy? Yes, water Boy, but
Speaker 1: also like what was another one? It really really sucks.
Speaker 1: That's how you psych yourself up. You gotta psych up,
Speaker 1: gotta psych up. Yeah. Right, the way you talk about
Speaker 1: ray Lewis and his motivational speeches, I kind of see
Speaker 1: that in KG straight war dance guy, but his war
Speaker 1: dance like he just fierce. He's a teammate you want
Speaker 1: he's like that, you know, like we always had like
Speaker 1: the like the Willie McGinnis, the tough guy that kind
Speaker 1: of keeps things in order. After hearing that story about
Speaker 1: you know, the rookie taking his shoes like that ain't happening. No,
Speaker 1: that was amazing. I got some stories we'll get we'll
Speaker 1: get we'll get McGinnis on here and we'll get some
Speaker 1: real good stories out of him. We'll save that for
Speaker 1: the future about him regulating the locker room. But that's
Speaker 1: definitely what Katie did Taul Pierce's underwear. I mean that
Speaker 1: he what he could do was just sell an underwear
Speaker 1: with skid marks on it and makes so much money.
Speaker 1: I'd buy him. I'd sniff him, dude. Now, would it
Speaker 1: be like a perfectly like symmetrical like skid mark or
Speaker 1: would it be like like it's a real skid mark.
Speaker 1: You take a baby, Ruth, you leave it out for
Speaker 1: an hour in the sun, you smear it. You're making
Speaker 1: money on eBay. Some Boston lunatic is buying this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's definitely donated the proceeds to Saint Jude's or something,
Speaker 1: and that way you're a hero. No one's talking about
Speaker 1: Paul Pierce poop in his pants, are like this guy
Speaker 1: mass General or mass General is amazing guy. Hey poop
Speaker 1: and all. He didn't poop it, though he wants to
Speaker 1: lay that out there, he did not poop. And we
Speaker 1: did some forensic looking at this, yes I did. I
Speaker 1: looked at every angle. Like I said, we brought an experts.
Speaker 1: We spent thousands of dollars trying to get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of this and we have he did not. He
Speaker 1: did not poop, right, Jack didn't. Didn't you do an
Speaker 1: intense study on this. No poop found in the undies.
Speaker 1: No poop found in the undies. When it comes to Jack,
Speaker 1: you know, we did. We did talk about this picture, Sam,
Speaker 1: can you or here we go, Kyler. We got this picture,
Speaker 1: the infamous amazing, the infamous night me ray or me
Speaker 1: paul in Dola. We'll leave it at that classic we got.
Speaker 1: We gotta get down the wall, we gotta put it.
Speaker 1: We'll hang it up. So that looks like the start
Speaker 1: to have like a Hangover movie right there. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was start. Looks amazing. Waking up to about five hundred
Speaker 1: text messages from people you don't always want to hear from. True. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not good, not good, but it was good. It's learning,
Speaker 1: learning experience. You gotta wear you gotta wear non friction
Speaker 1: pants if you're gonna do a hood slide, right, non
Speaker 1: friction pants. You can't have jeans. I need some polyester
Speaker 1: or something. Let's get someone sending some polyester to the
Speaker 1: Games with Name Studio. So Julian can do the classic
Speaker 1: the way Jackie Chan does in the Rush Hour movies.
Speaker 1: He just jumps over the Oh he makes it look badass.
Speaker 1: You know. He does all his stunts too crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's known for acting. I think he's acting.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I love Jackie Jane. He's a good actor,
Speaker 1: but he's you know, but he's like great, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: like that's what he's known for. He's gotta do with stunts.
Speaker 1: He's amazing at the Do you ever see like the
Speaker 1: old Police Story movies are insane? Yeah? That's like, didn't
Speaker 1: they say on one of Jackie Chang got beat up
Speaker 1: by Bruce Lee? What? Yeah? On like Isaac is there
Speaker 1: is there something on that? Or he may have been
Speaker 1: an extra on a on a Bruce Lee movie? True? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. I think it's fully true. Wow, But I
Speaker 1: don't know, jack do we forget anything? We? Uh? Jules,
Speaker 1: you corrected yourself. You were at the twenty ten finals
Speaker 1: and the KG trade Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Theo, Ratliff,
Speaker 1: Sebastian Telfair and two first round picks in two thousand.
Speaker 1: That's nothing, though, get to first round picks. You got KG.
Speaker 1: That guy is a he's a mortgage the future. That's
Speaker 1: that's a fair trade. I don't think. I mean KG
Speaker 1: is he's a franchise game changer. Who did they get
Speaker 1: with those first picks? That's a good question. A look
Speaker 1: that that will explain, that'll really tell the tale. But
Speaker 1: I don't think Starberry. No, that was way before I know.
Speaker 1: But you remember that team that was That was Starberry
Speaker 1: was pissed that KG got paid and wanted out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got the fattest contract in the in the NBA.
Speaker 1: They were such a tandem. Yeah they were. They were.
Speaker 1: I mean they were awesome together. They were on the
Speaker 1: hoop it Up game together, Yeah, they were. They went back.
Speaker 1: No you or what was that NBA jams? Oh that's
Speaker 1: a good NBA jam team? Yeah, it was him, and
Speaker 1: I think it was him and Shrubberry. You need someone
Speaker 1: quick and someone who can block shots. You got. Those
Speaker 1: are the two right there. But wasn't it also Penny
Speaker 1: and Shack? I think was it? I think because those
Speaker 1: were old games, those were fucking class nineties. I was
Speaker 1: always the Starks and youing guy that those were my two.
Speaker 1: I was always a created player guy, were you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would do creative player and I'd make my guy
Speaker 1: with the wolfhead and I'd have my number. I would
Speaker 1: have twenty one at the time when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: because I love Dion Sanders, and I'd always named my
Speaker 1: guy Jay Dog. And that's only because my brother used
Speaker 1: to call his his guy Jay Dog, and I always
Speaker 1: thought it was pretty cool. Jay Dougs, I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: calling you Jay Dog. You remember that was like a
Speaker 1: thing in the nineties. You just that the letter and dog.
Speaker 1: It worked. Looks like they picked Ricky Rubio and Johnny Flynn.
Speaker 1: Ricky Rubio draft had Steph. Yeah, well, Ricky Rubio had
Speaker 1: some good years. He's still pretty good. But Johnny Flynn,
Speaker 1: Syracuse guy. I remember that he had a high They
Speaker 1: took him over Steph Curry if I remember correctly, that's correct.
Speaker 1: Not a good pick. Yeah, no disrespect to Johnny Flynn.
Speaker 1: Terrific college player. Steph Curry's top twenty all time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: could be lower, could be lower, I mean, but when
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, he will be lower. But
Speaker 1: I mean he's revolutionized the game. Fucking Do you know
Speaker 1: Steph at all? We've met a couple times at the SPS. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's such a just a great guy. He's amazing. He
Speaker 1: does it right, you know, he's great man on great
Speaker 1: man off family man. But he's like a Matthew Slater type. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just a great dude. Yeah, he can't. He cannot root
Speaker 1: for those guys. It's hard not to. I always I
Speaker 1: tend to go for the underdog in the NBA, and
Speaker 1: they just are always you know, the pick, they're always
Speaker 1: just so they're so good. I get that, But it's
Speaker 1: like you guys, I mean, when you sustain greatness. It's
Speaker 1: like the Patriots. It's hard to root for a team
Speaker 1: that's that's just a well oil machine like they are.
Speaker 1: And it's similar, you know, yeah it is, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's just when you when you see the individual accolades.
Speaker 1: Because I I was a Warriors fan growing up my
Speaker 1: whole life. Like the Bulls too, because we weren't really
Speaker 1: that good early nineties nineties. We had some good teams
Speaker 1: and fun teams run TMC. You had the Tim Hardaway,
Speaker 1: very well mulling teams. Those are pretty cool. Those were fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know when they got when they became super team,
Speaker 1: super duper team. Yeah that's what what did what did
Speaker 1: Ray call them? He said they were or Paul I
Speaker 1: keep on calling him we talked about ray Lewis and
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to cut some of that Warriors Celtics Finals.
Speaker 1: Who do you root for? I gotta go to Celtics
Speaker 1: right now, right just because I once once they went
Speaker 1: super duper team. I moved to Boston and once you're
Speaker 1: in that that town, you know, you're always rooting for everyone.
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're rooting for the Socks, You're rooting
Speaker 1: for the Bruins. You want to see the city do well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know I've and that. That was like
Speaker 1: I experienced basketball. I didn't go to like Warriors games
Speaker 1: growing up. It was a little far. We were really
Speaker 1: football baseball guys family. You know, I started going to
Speaker 1: Celtics games, like I started going to basketball games a
Speaker 1: lot when I went to Boston. So that's when I
Speaker 1: kind of learned to like love a team or like
Speaker 1: a team, you know what I mean? Do you root
Speaker 1: for the guys? And then they let me in so
Speaker 1: and they've been so gracious to me as an organization.
Speaker 1: Shout out to my girl McKenzie. She's always hooking me
Speaker 1: up with awesome tickets, Like, you know, they let me
Speaker 1: in that in you know, when I was suspended and
Speaker 1: then let me use their facility. So I'm a Celtics guy.
Speaker 1: Who do you ever sit next to, like any Boston
Speaker 1: legends of those games? A little Wahlberg, a little Damon
Speaker 1: Casey Affleck, what do we got? No? Usually go teammates,
Speaker 1: you go teammates. You know, it's kind of it's like
Speaker 1: a it's like a chemistry thing. It's a bondage. You
Speaker 1: got to do some stuff. Bondage. Yeah, you know, bondage.
Speaker 1: It's like bds M. Yeah, it's like you know that.
Speaker 1: What uh? I remember I was at a Knicks game
Speaker 1: once with my friend Anthony DeVito and we're sitting behind
Speaker 1: Tracy Morgan and it was nick Celtics, and for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: Michael Beasley for the Knicks just went off. He had
Speaker 1: the game of his life. For the Necks, he like
Speaker 1: already eight the next one, And every time Michael Beasley scored,
Speaker 1: Tracy Morgan would just turn behind to us and go,
Speaker 1: real animals eat meat. And we were like, hell, yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: just hyping us up. Tracy Morgan don't know what he
Speaker 1: means because I think there are you know, there's omnivores
Speaker 1: out there. But it was, you know, I was all in.
Speaker 1: I love the new thing modern day athlete going plant
Speaker 1: base that isn't would you have ever done that? Or no,
Speaker 1: you're too much of a foudy. I'm a foodie, but
Speaker 1: when I was playing, I would I would limit like,
Speaker 1: I would eat all like the plant based stuff, and
Speaker 1: I would just add protein to it. But I like
Speaker 1: the taste of that earthy, earthy taste and it does
Speaker 1: give you good energy. But you know, we I think
Speaker 1: we had two vegans on our team when I was there. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well Tom's got that that now a healer diet though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he still eats meat, yeah, I think, or not
Speaker 1: or fish or chick. I don't know. I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe he does, maybe he is anything anything else.
Speaker 1: We left out jack Yeah, real quick, we got Phil Jackson.
Speaker 1: We talked about his time in the next front office.
Speaker 1: He ended up winning. He actually won in seventy and
Speaker 1: seventy three as a player. The Paul Pierce KG trade
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn ultimately ended up getting the Celtics Jason Tatum
Speaker 1: and Jalen Brown, Kobe Bryant. We talked about his languages.
Speaker 1: Spoke Italian, Spanish, English, and a little bit of Mandarin,
Speaker 1: Mandarin Jesus and then was Kobe was an incredible guy.
Speaker 1: He's like a renaissance man. He was, and you felt
Speaker 1: that when he spoke, like when he spoke to our
Speaker 1: team when I you know, I told us about that.
Speaker 1: We talked about that earlier. But I mean that's Mandarin.
Speaker 1: I'm more of a Cantonese guy. Remember Wayne's World. Zang excellent.
Speaker 1: His girlfriend was Cantonese, right. I always remember Zang was
Speaker 1: excellent because he always excellent. Waynsworld is so good? Oh,
Speaker 1: such a classic? Holds up? Just rewatch it? I did.
Speaker 1: I watched it recently. Damn Carrera was the comedy celler
Speaker 1: Ones and Uh I got a picture with her. I
Speaker 1: had a horrible haircut, but UH still got the pick.
Speaker 1: Uh didn't happen. She was he didn't get the pick.
Speaker 1: She was so nineties, all these classics true lies we
Speaker 1: talked about before. I mean, let's like she's in some
Speaker 1: banger nineties movies. Man, I always wanted a Licorice. Oh,
Speaker 1: the Spencer, the Spencer Badass and the Garth Mobile. You
Speaker 1: gotta let's score this thing or name let's name the game.
Speaker 1: It's the wheelchair game. I think we can't call it
Speaker 1: the poop game. Now that we've done all this detective work,
Speaker 1: I think we gotta go wheelchair game. It's gotta be
Speaker 1: wheelchair game, the poop game. That sounds like a really
Speaker 1: bad porn genre, the poop game. Uh, what's your porn genre?
Speaker 1: My probably milf? How about you? I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, it's like, it's like cereal cereal.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you want Coco puffs, sometimes you want fruity pebbles.
Speaker 1: Star Power either way, no matter what, it's bad for
Speaker 1: you is the point we're making here. Uh, stay, let's
Speaker 1: score it, Steaks, Let's score it. NBA Finals. It's game one, though,
Speaker 1: so I think you know you can't go. I mean,
Speaker 1: are we doing the whole series? Are we doing game one?
Speaker 1: Game one? Game one? So? I think steaks are like
Speaker 1: you're at home, so the stakes are high, but it's
Speaker 1: just game one. It's not the super Bowl. Where's yeah
Speaker 1: seven seven seven, This is like first quarter of a game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: star power is high as hell. I go, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean this is this is like a nine to nine
Speaker 1: point five. Because you've got Kobe Gasol. I think there's
Speaker 1: at least five Hall of famers in this game, right,
Speaker 1: could be not to mention Phil. So that's six. Is
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers in the Hall of Fame as a coach?
Speaker 1: Maybe no, probably not borderline, but he's still he's still
Speaker 1: a star. Definitely had some star Park. I mean Kobe
Speaker 1: in there. He's Kobe's star. Yeah. Gameplay, it's a good game,
Speaker 1: and forth, back and forth. They were down when Pierce
Speaker 1: came in. The energy. I mean, you got to go
Speaker 1: at least eight, age five, I think, right, yeah, lower,
Speaker 1: you're going lower, all right, I mean maybe eight eight? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go eight. Name the wheelchair game. I mean, geez,
Speaker 1: how mad are like you know, the Handicapped Olympics for
Speaker 1: US US right now because they do this all the time.
Speaker 1: You know, I've played with some of those handicapped basketball
Speaker 1: guys and the really brutal. They're really good. But those
Speaker 1: guys are like tough man. They're banging and stuff. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's brutal. And they can they can shoot
Speaker 1: with like running star. It's incredible there. Their strength is
Speaker 1: so impressive of like upper body in it. It's fuck.
Speaker 1: It's insane how shredded they are, dude, you but it
Speaker 1: just it looks they're they're like, it's a rough game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when they're up and there like eight para athletes, parathletes,
Speaker 1: it's amazing, it really is and inspiring. So name name is,
Speaker 1: we got, we got. We gotta dock it a little
Speaker 1: because you know we're team Handicap seven Olympics. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: go seven. What's that a grand pretty good score? Here
Speaker 1: were seven eight seven eight seven five Yeah, it's pretty
Speaker 1: good ce plus yeah seven nine yeah, yeah c plus.
Speaker 1: It's a good game. Good game. But it wasn't It
Speaker 1: wasn't like a game set, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean the theatrics. We got to reserve the highest
Speaker 1: scores possible. Theatrics were there for sure. In Boston, La.
Speaker 1: You gotta give it like the stakes are big because
Speaker 1: those two franchises hate each other, I think. But I
Speaker 1: think we scored it right. I think we definitely did well.
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