1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: It's our one on this Tuesday, Dan and the dan Ets, 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show, Fritzie's here, Seaton, Marv Paul Ye, yours truly, 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: and of course the backroom guys, Reggie Miller a little 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: bit later on, and Ross Tucker will stop by. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: Phone calls. 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: Always welcome the eight seven to seven three DP Show audience. 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: You listeners did a wonderful job yesterday. The callers are 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: always right. As Fritzie had to pay off a bet 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: with Seaton. 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Good 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: morning if you're watching on Peacock or the NBC Sports 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: Network or listening on our great radio affiliates around the country. 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: We still have some head coaching openings Bills Brown's Cardinals Raiders, 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: and I'm guessing that probably some coordinators who are in 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl might be in line for one or. 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: Two of these jobs. 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: We'll come up with a Player of the Day, poll 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: question and stat of the day as always forthcoming. You know, 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl used to mean something. You know, down 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: through the years you were a Pro Bowl player, that 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: was a big deal. Maybe not as much now because 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: you get a lot of guys who don't want to 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: play in the game, and being a Pro Bowl player 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: helped out your Hall of Fame resume. But there's not 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl game anymore. But there was value being 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: a Pro bowler. Now you want to be an All Pro. 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: But if you're a Pro Bowl player, okay, it looks 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: good on your resume and that does factor in for 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame resume. But between injuries, players opting out, 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: Super Bowl participants skipping the trip, the Pro Bowls turned 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: into a game of musical players because you got to 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: fill the rosters here. Now once again, there's no game. 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: There's activities. You're a Pro Bowl part participant in activities. 38 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: You know, Tyler Huntley got in a couple of years ago, 39 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: Mitchell Trubisky, and now Shudor Sanders is in the record 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: books as a. 41 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl quarterback. 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't have a problem if Shaudoor Sanders is 43 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: in the Pro Bowl activities category. Here, these are games 44 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: that are being played. This is a business decision by 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: Peyton and Eli Manning. Why not put him in there. 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: People watch, They'll watch Shadoor Sanders. I hope the NFL 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: takes me up on what I've put in front of 48 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: them for years now. If you're going to do activities, 49 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: have a Pro Bowl roster and there's only one quarterback 50 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: in the NFC and one in the AFC, that's it. 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 2: But you do get that designation on your resume Pro 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 2: Bowl quarterback, or if you want to do two quarterbacks, 53 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: or you do two players at each position. They're not 54 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: going to be playing in a game, but you get 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: that resume designation that you wear a Pro Bowl quarterback 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: if you want to do it. But why not just 57 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: have a lineup for the NFC in AFC they're not 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: playing in a game, but you give them that designation 59 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 2: because everybody else you're a participant in Pro Bowl activities, 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: and even put an asterisk by those Pro Bowl participant. 61 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: But should or Sanders, you'll bring eyes to it. You know, 62 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: I'm not tuning in to see somebody be great. It's 63 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: more of, you know, some fun activities that Peyton and 64 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: Eli have. Okay, tug a war, I'm sorry, It's it's 65 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: not like I go man he is a great tug 66 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: of war guy. 67 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: That's a god one tug a war. 68 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Paulie, this is such an easy fix that you've 69 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: been saying this. We've been saying this for years. There's 70 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 4: the Pro Bowl honor your name to the Pro Bowl 71 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: in late December, and it goes on your resume, and 72 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: then the Pro Bowl games are an activity, and then 73 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 4: you can participate or not participate. But like you said, 74 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 4: Tyler Hunley, it's in football reference, he's less as a 75 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: Pro Bowler. He was two for two as a starter, 76 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: two and to another starter. He had two touchdowns and 77 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: made the Pro Bowl. 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to fill out the roster. That's all 79 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: this is. 80 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: And it used to mean something, and I know back 81 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: in my day it meant something, but then you started 82 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: to get quarterbacks who opted it out. I remember Dan 83 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: Marino said, you know, I don't want to play played enough, 84 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: but you do want that designation that you are a 85 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl quarterback. 86 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, seton. 87 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 88 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 6: I think part of the thing that maybe we're having 89 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 6: a hard time with is that these types of all 90 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 6: star games that were always trying to fix every three months. 91 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 3: Have outlived their usefulness. 92 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 6: They don't they don't mean anything anymore because they don't 93 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 6: mean anything because they used to be special. To see 94 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 6: what would happen if these players all played together. Well, 95 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 6: now there's free agency in every sport. We see that 96 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 6: all the time. There is no uniqueness to it. 97 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: Well, there is no game anymore, but it's just you're 98 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: designated as a Pro Bowl Shdor Sanders. Fifteen years from now, 99 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: we can look back at his resume and go, man, 100 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: he made a Pro Bowl. And I think that's what 101 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: bothers people of. He made a Pro Bowl and then 102 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: this guy made X number of Pro Bowls. Vince Young 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: made two Pro Bowls as an alternate. 104 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 6: Yes, but I think the problem is is that we 105 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 6: focus on the Pro Bowl and not All Pro. If 106 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 6: we did more to recognize how special the all Pro 107 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 6: designation was, nobody would care about the fan vote. 108 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: Well, we don't have an all Pro game, but we 109 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 2: do have Pro Bowl game. Now, we have Pro Bowl 110 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: games activities. Therefore, we speak about it more because oh, 111 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: somebody got added to a roster. Somebody's not going to 112 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 2: be a you know, Drake may can't play. He's not 113 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: taking part in the Pro Bowl festivities. 114 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 6: Right because having an actual and actually valuable player participate 115 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 6: in these events is crazy. Yes, why in the world 116 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 6: would we risk those knees for these events. 117 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: Stat of the Day brought to you by p America, 118 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: the official trading cards of this program. First Hour brought 119 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: to you by tire Rack. 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You want your biggest personalities. 129 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: You don't want name recognition in there, and Shador Sanders 130 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: certainly has that. All right, You see, what's poll question 131 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: going to be first hour of the program? 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: First hour? Poll question? Which wins more games, gut feeling 133 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: or analytics? Oh no, okay. 134 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: We had Mark Schlereth on yesterday, former NFL offensive lineman, 135 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: and he really doesn't like analytics. This is what he 136 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: had to say from yesterday's show. Yeah, Dan, you know 137 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: it's really funny. I get into arguments because I hate analytics. 138 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: I hate all analytics people. I don't like nerds, and 139 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: I always get into this with guyys. 140 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 7: You like the two point conversion play and we got 141 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 7: to go for it on fourth down and all this stuff, 142 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 7: and you know, you get the sample size of data. 143 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 7: But hey, man, if I haven't blocked your defensive front 144 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 7: all day long, right, that data changes. If my guards 145 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 7: can't handle your three techniques, if my tackles can't handle 146 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 7: your defensive ends, then we need to change. 147 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 5: Like that. 148 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 7: Math doesn't work. Math has never made a tackle. Math 149 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 7: has never blocked anybody. Math has never done any of 150 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 7: that stuff. 151 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: Okay, we posted this yesterday on social media. I got 152 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: a lot of reaction, and got a lot of reaction 153 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: from the people who actually are the analytic nerds. According 154 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: to Mark Schlareth, Michael Wilbon has been banging the drum 155 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: against analytics for a long, long, long time. I understand it. 156 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: I mention this before. Back in the late sixties, my father, 157 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: working in computer science, came up with probability. It wasn't 158 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: called analytics, but he was working at the University of Dayton, 159 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: and he was trying to help the coach at the 160 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: time turns out to be Sean mcvay's grandfather, and he's 161 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: trying to give him information of what happens when this 162 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: team has the ball here in this situation, so probability, 163 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: and he was feeding information into a computer, giving out 164 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: the probabilities to the head coach. So it's been around 165 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: a long, long long time. It's just we started to 166 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: call it analytics, and I think that bothered people almost 167 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: as if oh, you're better than us, Oh you're smarter 168 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 2: than us. Oh you went to Harvard, Oh you went 169 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: to Stanford Weathery just looking at the game. Same with baseball, 170 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: same with basketball. The analytics say shoot the three. The 171 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: math says shoot the three. Baseball, go for a home run. Okay, 172 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: there's data, and people have spent a lot of time, 173 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: years and years and years to come up with the data. 174 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: Now do I side towards gut, Yes, because gut is 175 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: in the moment. If I go into a game and 176 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: I go, hey, if we get fourth and four inside 177 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: the ten, we're going for it. 178 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: Okay. 179 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: And I do believe, you know, with Sean Payton going 180 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: for it on fourth down and in the moment I 181 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: said just kick the field goal. He's getting a lot 182 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: of blame because of that, but I think the analytics 183 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: show from what I was told, the analytics say go 184 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: for the field goal. There he went against analytics. So 185 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, and once again I haven't followed it 186 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: that closely with the analytics, but there were a couple 187 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: of reports that said Sean Peyton went against the analytics. 188 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: Kick the field goal, but in the moment, backup quarterback. 189 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: And then you had analytics experts who said, wait, you 190 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: don't think we factor in that it's a backup quarterback 191 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: or the weather or I don't know how it changes 192 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: snow oho storm comes in. How do you change the 193 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: analytics to give that information to the teams in real time? 194 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: So now all of a sudden, I got a backup quarterback. 195 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: I got an offensive line that can't protect my quarterback. 196 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 2: The Patriots defense is a whole lot better than we thought. 197 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: I got snow, I got wind, And you're gonna tell 198 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: me in real time that you're going to come up 199 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: with analytics. There I understand going into the game. Hey, 200 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: we're not going to go towards Christian Gonzalez third and long. 201 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: We're not going in his direction. Okay, but what if he's, 202 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: you know, got a banged up ankle or something. Maybe 203 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 2: he's limping a little bit. Maybe my offensive line isn't 204 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: as good as we thought against their defensive line. We 205 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: don't have the time to be able to throw deep. 206 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 2: Like it just feels like there's so much it's a 207 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: fluid topic, and I think that we get we kind 208 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: of get bogged down on Oh, analytics says, here, let 209 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: me look at my sheet. I can look at that sheet. 210 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: It's like when you know Tony and Larusa did this. 211 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: You know this smartest man in baseball history or so 212 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: I'm told, hey, we got this matchup. The analytics say this. 213 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: All I know is they're managers who get fired because 214 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: of analytics. You know, go back to Tommy Lasorda with 215 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 2: a gut instinct to put Kurt Gibson against Dennis Eckersley 216 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: that analytics would have said, are you crazy? But Tommy 217 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: brought up Kurt Gibson against one of the greatest closers 218 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: of all time and he hits a home run. So 219 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: there's a gut feeling that should be attached to this. 220 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: I understand analytics, and I'm fine with it. I just 221 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: don't like when I see a coach look at a 222 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: piece of paper and go, we're going for it. 223 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 3: Yes. Part of the. 224 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 6: Reason that I think people don't like analytics is because 225 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 6: we only notice them when it doesn't work. And the 226 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 6: reason that we don't focus on it when it does 227 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 6: work is because coaches take credit for the brilliance. No 228 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 6: coach has ever been like, hey, coach Gutsy called again, 229 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 6: Yeah you know, I just well, I looked. 230 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: At the sheet and that's what it told me to do, 231 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 3: so that's why we did it. No coach is ever 232 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: going to say that. 233 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 6: Instead, they're going to give you forty five seconds on 234 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 6: what a genius they are for You're right, I did 235 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 6: do that even though they really looked at the sheet 236 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 6: and it said go for it or don't go for it. 237 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: But when it's wrong, it's like. 238 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the analytics did it, so yeah, well 239 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: that's when I dialed up something. You know, when you 240 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: go with your guts feeling, we dialed analytics is always 241 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: really because it's. 242 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 6: Gotten you to the AFC title game so far, the analytics. 243 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 6: But no, no, I can't do whatever, Yeah, Pulley. 244 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: Going back to the fourth and one, we did this 245 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 4: post yesterday and a few different people who worked in 246 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 4: analytics broke it down and they said it was a 247 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: medium recommendation, not a heavy recommendation to go for the 248 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 4: field goal. They said it was really close. The odds 249 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: of you making the fourth down were like sixty four percent. 250 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 4: Your odds of you converting the field goal was ninety 251 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: five percent, but then your win rate when you convert, 252 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 4: and there's a lot of details, but they said it 253 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: was a mild or medium recommendation, which means is almost 254 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: a coin flip. Now, it wasn't like you must do this, 255 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: the analysts say you must do this. It was more like, 256 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 4: just over fifty percent, you should do this. Yes, Todd, they. 257 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 8: Have other responsibilities, but to me, a head coach manager 258 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 8: largely has to do with decision making or decision making abilities. 259 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 9: So why don't we just have some kind of machine. 260 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 8: Like we're going to do with balls and strikes If 261 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 8: a coach is just going to rely on what they 262 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 8: spit out in a computer, and that's a big role 263 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 8: of a coach or manager to make decisions, and you're 264 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 8: basing it on non human things. Then what's the point 265 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 8: and just have. 266 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: Some They called a timeout. John Payton called a time 267 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: out to talk about it. Here's the thing I don't know, 268 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: and maybe somebody in analytics can help us, and that is, 269 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: if you have data on a fourth and one inside 270 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: the fifteen, doesn't the defense have the data that you 271 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: have on fourth and one inside the fifteen? 272 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 10: Right? 273 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: Don't they cancel each other out? And then it comes 274 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: down to gut But I I'm out for exploring these things. 275 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 2: I'm not a math guy. My father was, but I 276 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: still think there's value to it. I think that sometimes 277 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: it can be we hold on too tight to it 278 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: with the analytics. I think you've got to coach a game. 279 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: And in that moment, Sean Payton should have kicked the 280 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: field goal. I don't care what analytics said. I would 281 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: have called a better play is what I would have called. 282 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: It was a terrible call because I don't want my 283 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: quarterback rolling right. So now I've cut off half the field. 284 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: The Patriots obviously knew what was coming. They got two 285 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: defenders who came in Scott Free and it was going 286 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: to be intercepted, almost intercepted. So aside from the two 287 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: defenders who came in and the who was going to 288 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: intercept it. I guess it was a good call, guest Hud. 289 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 8: At the risk of sounding ignorant, do these coaches in 290 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 8: their ears in the limited time that they have unless 291 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 8: they call time out on every play they're getting some 292 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 8: kind of feedback or it's just select situations about going 293 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 8: for two or kicking a field goal. That's a lot 294 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 8: of information while you're trying to manage everything else. 295 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: To be told, no, you're not. 296 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: Analytics is part of your playsheet. Analytics will will give 297 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: you all of that information that you you have it 298 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: before the game. It's not like in the moment because 299 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: even then you're discussing this and you can say, what's 300 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: the analytics? Say I would say to my team, what's 301 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: the analytics? And then they would say all right, and 302 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: you look at your flip chart. 303 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 8: If that doesn't count for every situation someone gets hurt 304 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 8: during a game or weather changes, you know, you can 305 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 8: only do so much preparation with all the highlight of 306 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 8: different colors that you see them holding and blocking their lips. 307 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: With hey, it's your coach, you made the stupid call, no. 308 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 9: Believe me, and they lose my three points of cause 309 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 9: math on I. 310 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: Uh analytics, polly check and see if there's a woman 311 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: named annalytics all over it. Yeah, just you know she's 312 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: probably yet having people. Man, I hate analytics. What did 313 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: I do to you? All right, well, settle on a 314 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: poll question here. Mike McCarthy will be sworn in as 315 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: this Steelers next head coach, and we will play the 316 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy cliche game as well. Now, I think the 317 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: press conference is going to be at two o'clock, so, uh, 318 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: we're just gonna have to guess what we think his 319 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: first cliche will be. And Seaton said that he wanted 320 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: to go first. We'll take a break. Yeah, he won 321 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: the coin toss. Yeah, he won the coin toss. He'll 322 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: get the first cliche out of Mike McCarthy's mouth. We'll 323 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: take a break. We're just getting started. We're back after 324 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: this Dan Patrick Show. 325 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 326 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six AMSI on 327 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 328 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 11: Hey it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. 329 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 11: Would mean a lot to have you join us on 330 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 11: our weekly auditory journey you're asking, what in God's name 331 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 11: is the Fifth Hour? I'll tell you it's a spin 332 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 11: off of it. 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Coming up a little bit 342 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: later on today, we will play the Mike McCarthy cliche game. 343 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 2: I didn't even know it was a game until Seaton 344 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: came in and he goes, I know the first cliche 345 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: that Mike McCarthy is going to utter when he gets 346 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: in front of the media today. We'll have that for 347 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: you coming up here in a moment. I don't know 348 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 2: if anyone nobody else has cliches, because I didn't think 349 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: of it. 350 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: I'm not well versed on Mike McCarthy cliche. 351 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 6: That's why we're trying to figure out the first, not if, 352 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 6: but which one of these will be the first. You 353 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 6: can't be in football this long without being a hardcore 354 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 6: cliche guy. 355 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: Now, isn't he a football like? 356 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: He's not a football He's a football guy. 357 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: He's a football guy, a football guy. 358 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: Tom Pelisero, NFL insider for the NFL Network, was on 359 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: the Rich Eisen Show and he likes that the Steelers 360 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: have hired Mike McCarthy. 361 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 12: There's a lot of different reasons to Rich to Mike 362 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 12: McCarthy is the new Steelers head coach. But I'm gonna 363 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 12: point out one that has not been talked about enough. 364 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 12: These Steelers have ranked twenty third or worse in yards 365 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 12: per game on offense eight years in a row. Eight 366 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 12: years in a row they have had a bottom third offense. 367 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 12: And I know that the Steelers dynasties have been built 368 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 12: around playing really good defense and being aggressive on that 369 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 12: side of the ball, but you do need to be 370 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 12: able to score points. You need to need to be 371 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 12: able to do that in the NFL. And if you 372 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 12: look at Mike McCarthy's track record everywhere he's been. Bill 373 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 12: Kauer said this on CVS the other day. He's elevated offenses. 374 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 12: He has elevated quarterbacks at various different stages in their career. 375 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was very passionate. 376 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: I was watching the NFL Insiders on NFL Network last 377 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: night and he went even further talking about Mike McCarthy 378 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: and thinks it's the right hire. I know that we 379 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: look at the Steelers blueprint, it's where you got to 380 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: get the young coordinator, defensive coordinator in his mid to 381 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: late thirties, and he's going to be there for twenty years. Well, 382 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: the Steelers have to change things up a little bit, 383 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: and the offense has to get into the modern era, 384 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: and it feels like that they're always dragging behind the 385 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 2: defense is dragging that offense into a playoff Berth. I 386 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: don't know if Aaron Rodgers is going to come back. 387 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: By all accounts, felt like he was really well liked 388 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: by his Steeler teammates, his relationship with Mike McCarthy. 389 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: Maybe that's on the mend. 390 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: Maybe Mike goes I can have Aaron as a band 391 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: aid quarterback, they still have to find another one eventually. 392 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if Will Howard at Ohio State can 393 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 2: play as an NFL starting quarterback. But you might have 394 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 2: something there. You already know what you have with Mason Rudolph, 395 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: but if you bring in or bring back Aaron Rodgers, 396 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 2: it's not the worst case scenario. You just need to 397 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: upgrade your offensive style philosophy, and you've got to be 398 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: it used to be. If you got a top fifteen 399 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 2: defense to go along with a great offense or vice versa, 400 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: you could have a magical season. A lot of these teams, 401 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: you want to make sure that you're getting in the 402 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: top fifteen. You might have a top five offense, but 403 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: if you have a twentieth ranked defense, you could be 404 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: in trouble. It's getting that balance that's what you're looking for, 405 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: or at least as close to that as possible. And 406 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 2: for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Mike McCarthy uh from the Pittsburgh area. 407 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: As we've been told. 408 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: Many, many, many times, he's just a football coach, is 409 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: what he is. And UH seton the cliche. The first 410 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: cliche that Mike McCarthy says today is what I believe. 411 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 6: It's going to be something involving a rich tradition of 412 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 6: football history. He's going to be speaking about the Steelers 413 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 6: organization and talk about why wouldn't I want to coach 414 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 6: at such a prestigious organization with a rich tradition of 415 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 6: football history. 416 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 3: Something like that. Okay, so rich tradition is the key. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 417 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 3: football history. 418 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 6: Something about their history being one of the most iconic franchises, 419 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 6: A rich tradition. 420 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: Rich tradition, Yes, anybody else have a cliche, Marvin. 421 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 13: He's going to say something to the effect of upholding 422 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 13: the standard that the Steelers have set. 423 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: That's good one. Upholding the standard. That's a good one, Paul. 424 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: Those two could go back to back in either order. 425 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: Mmmm. 426 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: God, those are off the board already. I gotta go 427 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 4: to my second tier. 428 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: Todd, do you have one. 429 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 8: I jotted down a few sentences. If you'll humor me, 430 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 8: we take just a couple of seconds. But it has 431 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 8: to do with the number seven, if you want me 432 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 8: to It's less a cliche, more of what I think 433 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 8: he'll say specifically. 434 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm well aware that. 435 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 8: Anything short of bringing the Super Bowl title back to 436 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 8: this great city and its fans is unacceptable, and I 437 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 8: can assure you that I will do everything in my 438 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 8: power to do just that. If my math is correct, 439 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 8: the Steels organization has won six championships. That being said, 440 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 8: my new favorite number is lucky seven. Hold on tight 441 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 8: to your terrible towels, because I assure you we're about 442 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 8: to go on a wild, exciting ride. 443 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: Okay, that's his speech. I'm I was looking for a cliche. 444 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 9: Lucky seven. Okay, it's all about lucky number seven, seventh title. 445 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 3: Yes, my word will be culture. We're building a culture 446 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 3: football culture. That's a good one, that's a great one. 447 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: I'm thinking this is a hard work in city and 448 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: we're going to be a hard working football team. 449 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, are you thinking about the phrase blue collar? 450 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if blue collar comes in, but well, 451 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: hard hat. I know what it's like grow up in 452 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: this city. 453 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: There are hard working people, and we're gonna be a 454 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: hard working football team. 455 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: Yes, Ton, he. 456 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 9: Knows better than to refer to dream jobs. 457 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 8: You have to being with the Packers and Cowboys too, 458 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 8: you know, very popular organizations with you know legends. 459 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 9: You can't, you know, crap on the former. 460 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 8: Teams that you coached for by saying somehow that the 461 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 8: Steelers are better than experiences being Green Bay and Dallas 462 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 8: as coaches. I'm just curious if he goes there in 463 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 8: any way. 464 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: Is that a cliche toime? We're doing the cliche game. 465 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 2: I already, Yeah, you're screwed up the cliche. 466 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: This is just my speech. 467 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 9: I was doing a follow up point on the topic 468 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 9: of what he what he's going to refer to. 469 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: But we're doing cliche and I. 470 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 9: Don't have a cliche. I guess that's the best way 471 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 9: to say. Yeah, that's that's that's what you're getting at. Yeah, 472 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 9: I have no cliches. 473 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if he brings he can't bring up dream 474 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: job because he was with the Elbows and the Packers, right, 475 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: that's right. 476 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 9: You can't play up the don't I don't think you 477 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 9: could play up a big deal. 478 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: Okay, So he won't use that. 479 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 8: Not that is a topic or a cliche that he 480 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 8: will not use that my game of the antonym. 481 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: Oh the antonym, not say game. 482 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 8: What are some of the things he won't say? 483 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: Yes, I do like Todd. 484 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 6: I think we sort of drilled down on one point 485 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 6: with Todd that he was going to bring up a 486 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 6: seventh ring. Is that that was the point of the 487 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 6: speech before. 488 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, and then I worked around it with sentences. 489 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: That's a pretty good one. 490 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 8: Got to be something off of the fact that they've 491 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 8: got six titles and everybody's been waiting for the seventh 492 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 8: for so long. 493 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: And now he didn't want to put that much pressure 494 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: on him himself. 495 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 3: No, no, no, what. 496 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 9: Are the expectations in Pittsburgh, Mike McArthur? 497 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: You know what, We're going to have a winning record 498 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: and we're going to win our playoff game, first playoff game. 499 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: That that, let's set the bar a little lower than 500 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: very upset. 501 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: We've got a winning record. You just fired that guy 502 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: for that reason. 503 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're going to win a playoff game and 504 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: all we do is we play football. 505 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 3: That's crapping your pants and changing your shirt. Dan, Sorry, 506 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: it's just football. 507 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 2: Maybe he says that, Maybe that's his cliche. Hey me 508 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 2: replacing Mike Tomlin, It's like crapping your pants and changing 509 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 2: your shirt. 510 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: We're gonna playing football. We're playing football in here, hardworking football. Yes. 511 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 13: Steelers fans don't want to hear that, especially when Mike 512 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 13: Rabel just took a four win team to the super 513 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 13: Bowl and Mike McDonald yamobi there, they're going to the 514 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 13: super Bowl. Also, they don't want. 515 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: To hear that. 516 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: Okay, but I don't think he's going to be saying. 517 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a turnaround like Rabel had a turnaround. 518 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: Steelers made the playoffs. 519 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 13: Which is why the expectations are going to be even higher. 520 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think he says super Bowl, super Bowl. 521 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 8: Yes, I think he has to or at least allude 522 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 8: to that. He coached the team that's known as Title Town. 523 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 8: The reason he's there is to win a super Bowl, 524 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 8: nothing less. If that's his motto for lack of a 525 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 8: better word, that we're gonna make sure we win at 526 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 8: least one playoff game. 527 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 9: No one wants to hear that. 528 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: I was joking, Dan, you were being serious. Okay, don't 529 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 3: try to backtrack now, don't backtrack now. 530 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: You said it just a football coach, that's all. Football coach, 531 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 2: that's all. Uh coach, what do you? What are your plans? 532 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers? Aaron Rodgers football player. And you know if 533 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 2: he once come back, we're going to talk about that 534 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: because we're hard working city, you know, hard working football team. 535 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 14: Yes. 536 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 13: Does he say something to the effect that he matches 537 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 13: the attitude of this city. 538 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 3: It's pretty good? 539 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: Is this round two? 540 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: Well? 541 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 6: I think it's a free for all though, what the Heck, 542 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 6: it's just we're just going crazy right now. 543 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 3: Who knew that Mike McCarthy was this quotable. 544 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 6: Throwing and evaluate the roster while we're at it. You 545 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 6: can't really make those decisions right now. We have to 546 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 6: evaluate the roster. You can't say that when you're being introduced. 547 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 3: You can't. You can't introduce and be like, you know, 548 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: people are going to get cut. 549 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, the best eleven guys on the field. 550 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 3: Kind of what Christian Syracuse, Hi, Chris, what's on your 551 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: mind today? 552 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 13: Hey? 553 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 15: Thanks? 554 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 14: Dan? 555 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 15: Hey, maybe I think he uses the term dream job 556 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 15: in the context of I'm a Pittsburgh guy, I'm one 557 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 15: of you, and a couple of things to throw at you. 558 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 16: You know. 559 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 15: A possible spin off segment off the popularity of the 560 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 15: Dan Patrick Show Callers Always Right segment, Maybe Dan knats 561 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 15: are always Right segment. It could be Dan add on 562 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 15: in that crime crime against the back Row, or maybe 563 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 15: even some callers James and Virginia can explain why he's 564 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 15: so down on his commanders, or Shane Irving can explain 565 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 15: why he's so optimistic about his cowboys. And also a 566 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 15: lot of people are wondering why the last two years 567 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 15: Brian Flores continues to be passed over for head coaching jobs. 568 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 15: I think his pending lawsuit against the NFL is a 569 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 15: really big factor, maybe the only factor. 570 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: Thank you Chris Scott in La. Hi, Scott, what's on 571 00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 3: your mind today? 572 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 5: Hey, I'm the analytics thing that's really been driving me nut. 573 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 5: You know, if you look at baseball, you have one 574 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 5: hundred and sixty two games. They're the ones who started analytics. 575 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 5: If you look at the playoffs structure, they don't follow 576 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 5: the analytics. Even the Blue Jays as last year, if 577 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 5: we're bunning when the analytics said, don't bunt, because it's 578 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 5: people act differently. In the playoffs football seventeen games the 579 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 5: analytics include playing the Tennessee Titans or the Vegas Raiders. 580 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 5: As your analytics tell me, there's no analytics that has 581 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 5: a backup quarterback who hasn't played in two years in 582 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 5: the championship game in the snow. You're telling me they 583 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 5: have enough data points to come up with the analytics, 584 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 5: No zero chance. So that's what I think some of 585 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 5: these coaches need to start paying more attention to is 586 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 5: get away from this football or to cought up. They're 587 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 5: trying to catch up with baseball one to sixty two 588 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 5: versus sevent teams A big difference. 589 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Scott. 590 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you make a decision and the value of 591 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: that decision considering the number of games you have in 592 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: football as opposed to baseball. 593 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 16: Yeah. 594 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 6: See, I think the thing that we're though, as you've 595 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 6: brought up rightfully, so which I guess I wish we 596 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 6: had brought up yesterday, but just so I make sure 597 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 6: that we have this correct while we're killing analytics, is 598 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 6: that Sean Payton went against the analytics when he should 599 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 6: have gone with the analytics. Yes, correct, He should have 600 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 6: listened to the analytics in that moment, yes, but instead 601 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 6: he went with his gut feeling. 602 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: Yes. 603 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 6: So when we're looking at there couldn't possibly be enough 604 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 6: data points to know if this backup quarterback who hasn't 605 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 6: played in two years could do it right, That's why 606 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 6: you probably should have gone with the analytics that said 607 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 6: don't do that. 608 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: Yes, right, yes, But also your opposition has your data, 609 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: don't they. If I'm coming up with analytics, it's not 610 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: just for my offense, it's for my defense. What would 611 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: analytics tell me in that situation? Going against the Denver Broncos. 612 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: And can you update it to factor in Jared Stidham? 613 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: Can you factor in impending weather conditions? Like That's what 614 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how you can factor that into real 615 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: time analylytics. Hey, look, maybe somebody can help me with that, 616 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: because I know some people. They commented on Mark Schlaret saying, 617 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: of course we factor in all of these things. 618 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: Well, how do you do that? 619 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: How do you do that if you know their defensive 620 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: line is better than yours in the moment, but didn't 621 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: realize that maybe going into the game, or we roll right, 622 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: this makes the most sense in that situation? Why and 623 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: does the defense know Jared Stidham is going to roll right? 624 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: He's obviously not rolling left. But that's what I'm trying 625 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: to understand. If you have information, chances are they have 626 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: somebody who's doing the same thing. And I think that's 627 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: what I'm trying to I'm trying to be fair to analytics. 628 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: I understand it. 629 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: I just don't know if it's Hey, don't tell anybody, 630 00:30:53,760 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: but our analytics say this. Shu Dylan in Orlando, Hi Dill, 631 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: what's on your mind? 632 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: Hey? 633 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 10: Dan? 634 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: Hope you can hear me? 635 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 16: All right? 636 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 14: Two quick things. One about Todd one about football. First 637 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 14: of all, I want to say that even though I'm 638 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 14: a big Beatles fan, I think Holland Oaks is definitely enjoyable. Also, 639 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 14: Padana panton Public, totally okay. And as a Raiders fan, 640 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 14: I want to do your opinion on my first two 641 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 14: draft picks I think the Raiders should do. First of all, 642 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 14: they should do for Nanda Mendoza, I think you could 643 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,479 Speaker 14: work really well with action Jenky and say. I think 644 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 14: they should draft Isaiah World be authentic, tackle a Orger. 645 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 14: I think you'll really help the line. Thank you, God blessed. 646 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: All right, all right, thank you Gil. If I'm the Raiders, 647 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: I'm on the clock, but I'm on the phone. I 648 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: want to talk to teams and we got to get better. 649 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: Now. 650 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: You might be passing up John Elway here or Andrew Luck, 651 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: but I at least have to listen because in this 652 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: draft where there's only a couple of quarterbacks who are 653 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: first round worthy, and it might only be two maybe 654 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: three with Shambliss, but you know, that value of that 655 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: number one pick just went up incrementally just because lack 656 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: of you know, talent at that position. If you got 657 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: somebody to overspend and they gave you two first rounds 658 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: and maybe two first round picks next draft. Okay, as 659 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: long as you trust your front office and you could 660 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: utilize those picks. 661 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: You're not winning anything right now. You're not in that. 662 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 10: Man. 663 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 2: We could turn it around, just like the Patriots. You're 664 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: not close to doing that. First of all, you got 665 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: to get a head coach. You know you're gonna have 666 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: a head coach and you're gonna have a first year quarterback. 667 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: That is a bad recipe first time coach, because Mike 668 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: Rabel coach before at a very very high level, and 669 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: Drake May was there one year and then Mike takes over. 670 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: Yes, uh, if Tom Brady's. 671 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 8: All in on Mendoza and he tells the rest of 672 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 8: the front office, I don't want to hear about two 673 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 8: first round picks, nine first round picks. He's our guy, 674 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 8: who're taking him? Is there anyone that has that kind 675 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 8: of power or the courage to tell Brady, no, we're 676 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 8: for this, for this opera, We're not going to take Mendoza. 677 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: What do you think? 678 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 8: I think that ultimately Brady is going to say, if 679 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 8: he's that in on Mendoza, they're going to go with 680 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 8: what Brady wants. 681 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: Well, this is why you hired Tom Brady. You brought 682 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: him in and gave him part of the team. I'm 683 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: not bringing in Brady and then not listening to him. 684 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: And if he says, hey, I feel really strongly about 685 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: and if you get an offensive coordinator, if if Tom 686 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: decides to hire the guy that I feel like he 687 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: was kind of telling us he was going to hire 688 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: Clinton Kubiak offensive coordinator, then all right, you know you start. 689 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 3: I just want continuity. 690 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: You want your your head coach, your offensive coordinator, and 691 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: your quarterback, because if you don't have continuity, it's really 692 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: hard for that quarterback to develop. And if you have 693 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: that for Mendoza, you're gonna, you know, bulk up the 694 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: offensive line because if you don't, it doesn't matter. 695 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: I don't care how good you are. 696 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: As I pointed out numerous times, Patrick Mahomes without a 697 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: really good offensive line, was average in the Super Bowl, 698 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: twice below average in the Super Bowl. One of the 699 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: greatest quarterbacks of all time. You have to have an 700 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: offensive line. 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That was 714 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: his four hundred and eighth career victory, moving him into 715 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: twelfth place on the NHL's all time list. 716 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 3: Play of the Day. Play of the. 717 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 2: Day brought to you by Brought to you by RK 718 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: zero Proof, world's first zero proof spirits, the patented warm molecule. 719 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: You get that same feel, zero alcohol, all the cheers, 720 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 2: no regrets. Tried at RK A r KAY zero Proof 721 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: dot Com. Seaton update the poll results, Please. 722 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 6: Which wins more games? Gut feeling or analytics? Right now, 723 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 6: seventy percent of the audience say gut feeling. Okay, I 724 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 6: think that depends on whose gut we're talking about. 725 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 3: But sure, Tony in California. Hi, Tony, what's on your mind? 726 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 3: Hey guys, good morning, Good morning. 727 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 10: So so Dan, I'm not. 728 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 16: Charles Barkley, but I played blackjack like once a year, 729 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 16: and if you go into casino, they will give you 730 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 16: a card with analytics, Tony, exactly what to do at 731 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 16: the exact right time, and you know, but that's based 732 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 16: on five thousand hands or something. It's like the regular 733 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 16: season to postseason. But if you have one bet for 734 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 16: a thousand bucks, but you will get the ire of 735 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 16: the table, not following the book of analytics. But if 736 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 16: you have one bet, just just do what's right in 737 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 16: that moment rather than you know, something based on five 738 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 16: it's a regular season to you know, NFC championship game. 739 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: I appreciate that, Tony. Yeah. 740 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 2: I played blackjack one time and my wife was going 741 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 2: to go do something and she said, why don't you 742 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 2: play blackjack? And I said, I don't want to gamble, 743 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 2: and I was looking for a five dollars table. If 744 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 2: they would have had a dollar table, I would have 745 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 2: been fine with that. But there was the last person 746 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 2: on the table and it was a nightmare because everybody's 747 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 2: strategy wise. Okay, you hit on this, you don't hit 748 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: on this, and got to this person at the very end, 749 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: and you're just going just stay like, don't hit, don't hit, 750 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: don't I'll take one more card bust that would have 751 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: busted the dealer. And I think I lost eighty dollars 752 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 2: in a about five minutes because my wife came back 753 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 2: and she said, how'd you do? And I go, I 754 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 2: lost it? Oh, all of it. I go, well, eighty dollars. 755 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: But it was you know, somebody, everybody was playing the 756 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: analytics and then the person at the very end, was 757 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 2: it they were going on gut feeling? 758 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 9: Yes, Todd, So is it better to play like roulette 759 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 9: a study? 760 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 8: We have to rely on what other people's decisions are 761 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 8: when your money's in. 762 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 2: I don't want to play any of that stuff. It 763 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: drives I don't enjoy winning as much as I hate losing. 764 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 2: And I won when I gambled on football, I did win, 765 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 2: but it drove me crazy because A I couldn't watch 766 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 2: the game and then be anytime I would make money, 767 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: it'd be like, well okay, but when I lost money, 768 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: it was like. 769 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 3: Drilled me. Woe. 770 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Paulie, I've always heard that You're never supposed to 771 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 4: buck analytics playing black check because the house never does. 772 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 4: They stick to it wire to wire. And if you 773 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 4: buck analytics, you're removing any type of closure you can 774 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 4: get on the ass. 775 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I get that. Robert in San Antonio, Hi, Robert, 776 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 3: what's on your mind? 777 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 17: Good morning, gentlemen, five eight and a soft two twenty. 778 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 17: I just wanted to make a comment about McCarthy going 779 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 17: to the Steelers. I'm a long law I'm a long, 780 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 17: diehard cowboy fan, and nothing would bring me great joy 781 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 17: to see McCarthy win a Super Bowl with the Steelers. 782 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 17: He's already won it with Green Bay and seeing Jerry 783 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 17: Joe getting stuck to one more time would be an 784 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 17: embarrassment and I would love every bit of it as 785 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 17: a mean cowboy fat. 786 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Robert, Boy, it's got a payne 787 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 2: Jerry Jones. See Robert Kraft go into another Super Bowl? 788 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: What is that ten for him? Eleven eleven super Bowls. 789 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 2: He's not in the Hall of Fame yet? 790 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 3: Uh. Colin in Texas, Hi, Colin, I. 791 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 10: Damned in morning? 792 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 3: Good morning six two two hondo. 793 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 10: So surrounding the Mike McCarthy cliches, I think the real 794 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 10: cliche here is Todd Fritz not delivering a cliche. Or 795 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 10: maybe it's a bit of irony. I don't know the 796 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,479 Speaker 10: lines blurred there. Anyways, suck at Denver, suck it back 797 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 10: corner pocket. 798 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 3: Thank you, Colin. Yeah, see that is true. Todd didn't 799 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: give us a cliche. No, he gave me a speech. 800 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 6: He gave a speech with uh without any cliches in it. 801 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 2: Interesting, well, the he gave us the lucky seven like 802 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 2: seven super Bowl for the Steelers. 803 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 6: That's very specific to this one situation where less cliche. 804 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 3: Lee in New York, Hi. 805 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 5: Lee, and thanks for taking my call. Yep, Hey, you 806 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 5: can talk about analytics. 807 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 3: This morning now. In Denver. Both they know analytically that 808 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: there's bad weather coming. 809 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 10: You can take all the points you can before that 810 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 10: bad weather gets there. 811 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 3: That's what I've been saying. Yes, and Todd didn't know 812 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 3: this either. 813 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think the weather was a I don't 814 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 2: think that that was a big deal talking about leading 815 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 2: up to the game, although both teams knew that there 816 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,399 Speaker 2: was the possibility for bad weather coming in there. 817 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 3: I just would have thought, take is whenever you. 818 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 2: Can get points, get points again in New England's defense 819 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 2: is really good, and I think you got to factor 820 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 2: that in as well. And you got Jared Stidham, and 821 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 2: maybe you're reducing your playbook a little bit because of 822 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 2: a backup quarterback. I said it the time. I understood 823 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: Sean Payton was going for the kill too early, in 824 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 2: my opinion, because they go up two touchdowns at home, 825 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 2: maybe bad weather and that defense. In his mind, we're 826 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: going to win, We're going to the super Bowl. I 827 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 2: get it. I just think that he was too aggressive 828 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: too early. Ross Tucker's going to join us coming up 829 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 2: hour two, Reggie Miller stops bying the final hour Dan 830 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 2: and The Dan ats Dan Patrick Show