1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Two thousand seventeen Pro Bowl Vote is here. It's time 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: to vote for the NFL's best players to earn their 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: spot at Pro Bowl or the best meets the next 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Help your favorite player earn a coveted spot on the 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl roster today at nfl dot com slash Pro 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Bowl Vote and now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks. What's up, everybody? DJ? Bucky here moved 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: the sticks and Buck. Interesting week of NFL action culminated 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: by a couple of just goofy, I would say, goofy 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: primetime games with the Seahawks and the Cardinals no touchdowns 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: ending in the tie, and then you had the Texans 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: kind of slopping around the field against the Broncos and 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: brock Osweidler's return. Just kind of a weird, weird way 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: to end the week. But there were some really good 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: games tucked in on Sunday. Yeah, there's some good games. 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I even actually think the Sunday night game was a 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: pretty good game just from a defensive standpoint, watching those 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: teams go toe to toe. I think obviously we should 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: talk about the charges in the Falcons because maybe the 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: charges a back on track and as Atlanta becoming a 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: team that some t people thought they were the Dolphins 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: being hotter, the Patriots rolling like they customarily do, but 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles playing the Vikings. Because I know you really 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: plugged into the Eagles. How surprised were you to see 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: that defense rise up and uh I kind of dominated 26 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: the game? No, I mean I wasn't too surprised. I 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: mean I don't remember. I know I picked the Eagles 28 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: to win this game. I remember the point that I 29 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: made didn't really come true. I thought that, uh, I 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: thought their defensive front would play well against the Vikings 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: offensive line. I thought they'd be fine there. I thought 32 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: maybe the screen game on offense could get rolling for them. 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: But Minnesota kind of sniffed that out. In Minnesota's defense 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: played great. I mean, the special teams was the difference 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: in the game. Both defenses were outstanding. Buck. But to me, 36 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: the player that's maybe the most underrated player on the Eagles, 37 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: one of the more underrated players in the league is 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Brandon Graham. Remember when when they took him and it 39 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: was JPP and had all that early success. I'm begin 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: to when we look back at the longevity and the 41 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: whole history of a career brand of Graham. I think 42 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: might end up having a more impact there than JPP 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: over the long run. Well, absolutely, And that's why it's 44 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: a it's a long process. That's what can make these 45 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: hard judgments on players too soon. In the process, he's 46 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: got to found his role. He obviously is a nice 47 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: fitness defense for Jim Schwarz. They've done a great job 48 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: put him in left defensive end and passed for a 49 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: situation that allowed him to hunt the quarterback. He's active, 50 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: he's aggressive, he's everything that he was in Michigan. The 51 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: big thing I believe a lot of evaluators struggled with 52 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: his size. He's not necessarily the prototypical sized defensive end, 53 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: but he's definitely effective in the production that he put 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: on in college. If we're seeing him continue to be 55 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: able to put that up as a pro, yeah, lots 56 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: of leverage there. And I thought the interesting thing when 57 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: you look at the UH that game on tape Buck 58 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz, we talked about it forever. Rush for right, 59 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna rush for and get after him with that 60 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: for We're gonna cover up with everybody else they were. 61 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: He was blitzing off the bus at Sam Bradford everywhere. Obviously, 62 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: you know that sometimes when you're privy to information. They 63 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: went against him in preseason, in camp, every day in practice. 64 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: You gotta get a feel for what disrupts and bothers 65 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And Jim Sworts obviously has some of that intel. 66 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: They came after him. They knew he wasn't mobile, he 67 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: was sitting duck in the pocket, and they knocked him 68 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: around a little bit and caused him to really struggle 69 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: and not get comfortable. And so Sam Bradford had been 70 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: playing well to that point, but Jim Schwartz obviously unleased 71 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: the game plan that threw him off. Uh, threw him off. 72 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: And then we'll see if other teams trying to copy 73 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: their game plan because the Vikings can't run and their 74 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: offensive line is having problems. The best way to do 75 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: it is absolutely attacked the quarterback. Yeah, I mean, it's 76 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: getta interesting to see the Vikings going forward. But if 77 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: they don't get leads and they got to play from behind, 78 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: what do you do? You can't do anything because they 79 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: can't run the football, they can't control the game, and 80 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford can't turn it over. And I think if 81 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: you're the Minnesota Vikings. You have to be careful on 82 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: how you building your offensive game plan. And I know 83 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: you have some success with Sam Bradford. It's easily to 84 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: get tempted and seduced by the fact that he was 85 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: throwing the ball really well. But they have to be 86 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: a team that is committed to run the ball. And 87 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer was right to call out his offensive line 88 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: because if a soft upfront, they can't play the kind 89 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: of football that they want to play there. I mean 90 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: there's differencely being soft and not being any good. They're 91 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: not any good up front on it. You can't be 92 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: any good ants off. Yeah, they're both bad, bad combination. Um. 93 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: A couple other games won't jump into you mentioned. They're 94 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: the Bills and the Dolphins. Dolphins haven't rolling up front 95 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: with their offensive Linebuck Pouncy being in there, I think 96 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: he's best center in the league. He's been outstanding. Touns 97 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: is playing great next to him. I know you had 98 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: him in your your top ten for your rookie update. Um, 99 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: and then uh and Brandon albertson night job do you 100 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: want James on the left on the right side at 101 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: right tackle has played much better. So they have an 102 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: identity now and it's amazing with these quarterbacks. And we 103 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: can get into Osweiler here in a minute, but Ryan 104 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: Tannehill all of a a sudden playing better because they have 105 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: some balance in there, and they're a run heavy team 106 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: right now. You know, I think so much is made 107 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: and part of it is because wein UH a fantasy 108 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: football era where we want to see the quarterback throw 109 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: for three hundred yards, but every quarterback is not built 110 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: to do that and give their team the best opportunity 111 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: to win. I believe the Miami Dolphins have discovered that 112 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: by running the football with j Gi Ryan tann the 113 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: Hill as much better as a complimentary weapon on that offense, 114 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: meaning he doesn't necessarily act as the driving force, but 115 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: he makes a couple of players in the passing game 116 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: that allows them to stay balanced. But the team runs 117 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: through the running back and jig I and Jigi in 118 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: the last two games has proven that he can be 119 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: a dominant player. When you have back to back two 120 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: of your games, things that put you in UH the 121 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: same company as a Ricky Williams Earl combah O. J. 122 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: Simpson says a lot about your talent. The Miami Dolphins 123 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: now need to ride that bell count see if he 124 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: can kind of get them over at hump. The way, 125 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: I was trying to think of explaining this sort of 126 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: analogy for what you just said, because I've always said 127 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: there's there's very few quarterbacks you win because of you know, 128 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: I win, you win at courtment because of the ways 129 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: players planning, and then there's quarterbacks you win with, you know. 130 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: So the analoge I got here is there's trucks and trailers. Right, 131 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: eventually they can both get where you want to go, 132 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: but one's pulling the other. Yes, And I think there's 133 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: very few quarterbacks that fall on that truck category. There 134 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: category absolutely the um and and that's the thing. And 135 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: I think I think it's funny because people take offense 136 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: to when we call quarterbacks game managers or whatever. I 137 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: think trucks and trailers is a nice little I think 138 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: boys behind the glass. I think we have a video 139 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: to do the quarterbacks are gonna break them down. Trucks 140 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: and trailers, Yeah, because there's something to that. And and 141 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: it's not disrespectful to call the quarterback a trailer because 142 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: all quarterbacks are depended upon the weapons around them to 143 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: actually succeed at the highest level when it comes to 144 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: winning championships. With Ryan Tannehill and a couple other guys, 145 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: you have to have the other pieces in place. I 146 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: think they're why receiver Corps is nice. I think they 147 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: have a couple of nice players. We haven't seen Vante 148 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: Parking necessarily do what we expected him to do, but 149 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry Kenny Steels being able to push the ball 150 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: down to the field and do some things. The running 151 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: back Jedgi has given him that, and then the offensive 152 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: line is coming together. Now Ryan Tannehill is able to 153 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: be comfortable, and she should be able to play like 154 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: the guy that we were expecting him to play, not 155 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: necessarily be the lead horse, but he can be a 156 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: nice implement to what they have already established. You mentioned, 157 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: uh briefly about the Chargers and the Falcons. Before we 158 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: get to the bad with the Falcons. How about some 159 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: good with the San Diego Chargers. We've mentioned it on 160 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: here numerous times. Philip Rivers one of the most underrated 161 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: underrated talents in the league. He's made Tyrolle Williams looks 162 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: like t O out there in this office. Tyrrelle Williams 163 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: and Dontrell and then those two guys on the outside, 164 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: they playing with undrafted free agents and having success with 165 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: those guys, And it's something that he's always been able 166 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: to do no matter who you put on the outside, 167 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: he finds a way to be successful with those guys. 168 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: Antonio Gates is no longer the player that he was, 169 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: but in a critical situation where they needed it most, 170 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: he went to Antonio Gates and Antonio Gates delivered. And 171 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: So when I look at the Charges, and I know 172 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: that a lot has been made about their record in 173 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: the start, I think they're nel sitting there three or four. 174 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: I know there are a couple of games behind the 175 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: leaders in the n f C West, But what I'm 176 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: seeing is a team to just gaining confidence, a team 177 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: that has already played their division opponents. Well, if they 178 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: can get this game against the Denver Broncos and get 179 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: the forum for at the midway point, I think you 180 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: have to think about them being a team that can 181 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: make a run at a play spot. And when you 182 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: look at their I R list, the fact that they 183 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: don't have Keenan Allen, they don't have Jason Jason Barrett 184 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: and some of the other guys, I mean, all those 185 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: guys on the fact that they're still in the mix 186 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: is a testament to the talent that they have, but 187 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: also the coach and what they've been able to do, 188 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: no question. And then you flip it over to the 189 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. Look, Vick Beasley, that's your guy, buck, I 190 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: gotta give you your They moved and they finally put 191 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: him in a right spot. He's beginning to kind of 192 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: come around. They put him in left defensive and he's 193 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: taking advantage of right tackles and we have seen the 194 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: spotty offensive tackle played, particularly on the right side in 195 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: the league. Vic Beasley is beginning to find a way 196 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: to use the speed and quickness to affect games. And 197 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: he's had six acts, so you can't say enough about them. 198 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: But the Atlanta Falcons have to find a way to 199 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: play complimentary ball. The defense is still not up to snuff. 200 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: The offense has to, in essence, find a way to 201 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: score all the time. Like I know, they got thirty points, 202 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: but it's just not enough. They have to get more 203 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: points to really help their defense out. And the look, 204 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: the Falcons did have trouble blocking somebody. I'm not gonna 205 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: tell you who he was, you know, but he might 206 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: have said this when he lined up at the line 207 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, you can't block me. I'm good. I'm like 208 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: really good, Joey Bosa. Look, Joey Bosa has been a 209 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: nice addition to that defensive line. Melvin Ingraman once side, 210 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa on the other side. But already we're seeing 211 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa has been the move around guy. He has 212 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: already clearly established himself as a number one pass rusher 213 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: on that team. And because he can get home, he 214 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: can change the game, particularly in the late stages when 215 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: if they have a lead, they can close it out. 216 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: You like to talk about these guys being closers. He 217 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: is a guy that can close and finish games. And 218 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: the San Diego Charges have to be excited about what 219 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: they have, all right. Letna see if uh I that 220 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: will be on the same page. Here a camp for 221 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa that I have. I'm gonna just give you 222 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: a hint of my comp Okay won a Super Bowl. 223 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: It's retired, retired now no longer playing, recently retired. Within 224 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: the last he's he just got. He's in the Hall 225 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: of Fame and last couple of years Kevin Green. I 226 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: like what you're thinking of. Kevin Green just won a 227 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Not straight straight hand. I see a little 228 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: straight hand with him. Tell me explaining hand. Straight hand 229 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: could play outside. You could kick him inside if he 230 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: he right tackles, have no no, no shotting technician with 231 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: his hand absolute plays with power, no question and and awareness. 232 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the more underrated things, is 233 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: a scout. When you're watching these defensive you know that 234 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: bad that's a bad out because when you think about 235 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: straight hand, kind of body typer are similar as well. Yeah, 236 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: because stray hand wasn't uh a speed explosive Russia. He 237 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: was kind of a technician, a grind it out, figure 238 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: out how to do it, but one with his hands 239 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: consistently found a way to do it and put up 240 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: high sack totals and times. And so that's not a 241 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: bad like you like that one. I do like that. 242 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: And anytime we can cross the racial barrier there, that's 243 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: the nicest comparisons. Bonus points. That's a nice comparison. You 244 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: went right for Kevin Green, see what you did there, 245 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: because you just hit all the fame. So it threw 246 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: me off. I was like Kevin Green, like who just 247 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: went into the hall. So I was trying, you know, 248 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: because I think Westling had tweeted out that he saw 249 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: some gags. Maybe his hands had said, Gastonel hit up, 250 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: Mark Gastone. I mean, that's going way back on the 251 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: way back machine, way back machine, Mark Gastonough. I got 252 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be a white guy. I know, 253 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: how about Maco Straian. That's a good comparison. So that's 254 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: what I had there on Joey Boss. All right, Buck, 255 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through some tape stuff that I that 256 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: I watched this morning Andrew Luck, and we have a 257 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: video out there if you guys want to check out 258 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: debating who would you rather have, Andrew Luck or Russell Wilson. 259 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: A really fun conversation to have there. But watched Luck 260 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: in this game against UH Tennessee, Buck, I thought he 261 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: played really, really well. And somebody that, look, he's been hit. 262 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: We've seen the stats. We've discussed it, how many times 263 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: he's been hit, the sacks that they've given up. When 264 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: I watched him, they run more seven step drops, and 265 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: they are in all the dink and dunk era football, 266 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: they are seven step. They are pushing the ball vertically 267 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: down the field. Actually thought they held up pretty well 268 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: in protection even when they're in the gun. He's take 269 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: in a full five So for those of you you 270 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: don't know, if you if you pay attention, watch guys 271 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: win the shotgun. A lot of it is just catch 272 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: rock and throw or you're gonna catch it, take a 273 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: three step, balls out. He's in the shotgun taking a 274 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: full five step prop. That is a lot to ask 275 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: of your offensive line to hold up for that long. 276 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: It is a lot to ask for your offensive line. 277 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: And it's funny. We were talking about Ryan Tannehan the 278 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. Adam Gay said, if you're not playing in 279 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: a ten yard bucks, you're asking your quarterback to get killed. 280 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: And so we all have a fascination with these deep plays, 281 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: these big balls, trying to find these explosive chunk plays. 282 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: But in today's game with the offensive line, and you 283 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: can't do it. And so part of the reason Andrew 284 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: Luck has struggled is not only necessarily been the talent 285 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: of the guys around him, but it's been the coaching 286 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: staff asking him to do too much by trying to 287 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: extend and have these long plays. I know they have 288 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: speed on the perimeter. But sometimes when you have speed 289 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: on the perimeter, you can create the explosive plays by 290 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: playing more horizontally then vertically. Maybe they can scale it 291 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: back a little bit and find a way to get 292 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: their guys active and protect the quarterback by going a 293 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: little more Deacon dunk as opposed to home room ball. 294 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: I know that they didn't get a hundred yards in 295 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: this game like they did last week, but I thought 296 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: they ran the ball just gonna be effective, and they've 297 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: been affected with Frank Gore lately. They actually some play 298 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: action stuf where you actually saw them pulling linebackers and 299 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: safeties up, so you know he and Luck played great. 300 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: That counted five drops in that game, Buck, so you 301 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: had those throws in there and they've been banged up 302 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: a three yards. I think they get mon Creep back 303 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: this next week. I heard I just read that he 304 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: was gonna be practicing, so they've been back in the 305 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: mix that that'll help him. And then the the the gosh, 306 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: I think it was the basketball player swoop. Oh, yeah, 307 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: you had a couple of nice You had like fifty 308 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: yards receiving, So he did a nice shot filling in 309 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: for him. But what I'm getting at real quick here 310 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: to sum this all up with the Colts, we say 311 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: it every week. You know, I don't shovel any dirt 312 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: on this team. That nobody's going away from him. I mean, 313 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: we can get into brock auswil or now if you want, 314 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: but uh, I don't know that. And they had blew 315 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: a two touchdown lead against the Texans, should have won 316 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: that game. And now the Texans gets just smashed by 317 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: the Broncos. So I think they're I think they're a 318 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: game out. I think they're a game out of game 319 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: because I think they're a game out because they would 320 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: have and tied if they to one last week. So 321 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: I ended up dropping him two games back. But let's 322 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: jump into that real quick. In that game, Broncos Texans 323 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: not surprised. We both picked the Broncos to win this 324 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: game at home. But what are your thoughts on Oswiler 325 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: and it struggles My thoughts are Broncos, while it looks 326 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: like a rookie when you have only fourteen stars, you 327 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: have to kind of treat him as a rookie even 328 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: though his pay, they would say that he's something more 329 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: than that. And I think if you're inside the building 330 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texas. You gotta ignore what you pay him, 331 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: like what you paid him as the cost of doing business. 332 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: Now you have to look and see what is the 333 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: best thing that we can do to help him have 334 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: success with what we have around him. They have speedy 335 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: playmakers on the outside. They have a number on receiving 336 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. You have will full of you have Broxton Mill, 337 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: you have Jailing Strong, You have guys that can make 338 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: players in the passing game. You don't necessarily have a 339 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: dominant tight end, but you do have a running back 340 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: in Lamar Miller that she would be able to offset 341 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that you need. Brock Oswhalle. It 342 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: just has to understand who he is and what he 343 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: is and play within the structure of the offense and 344 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: not try and do too much. I feel like he 345 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: feels depressure to justify or validate why he's being paid 346 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: as a sixteen million dollar quarterback. Whatever. The money's in 347 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: the bank. Now, you just have to play and win games. 348 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: They win enough games people want to talk about the contract. 349 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: They just need to get back on track and find 350 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: a way to win games. And on defense, I see 351 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: a team that is really beaten up in the secondary. 352 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: Saw a lot of guys come off the field against 353 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. They need to get healthy, get those 354 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: guys back, play good defense so they can play complimentary ball. 355 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: The main thing they wanted to accomplish is to get 356 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: into the tournament and go a little farther than they 357 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: went last year. They need to do that. They can 358 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: do that, but they have to help Brock Oswelder. Can 359 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: we slow down one thing, by the way in this game, 360 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: and that's the Trevor simmeons some great young quarterback. Can 361 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: we can we dispel that notion? And oh, you know 362 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: he's so much better than Brock. Look, I saw Brock 363 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: Osweller have all kinds of success in this Gary Kubiak system. 364 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak turned Matt shop into parenty top tier passer 365 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: just average, made him a two or three time Pro 366 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: Bowl Average is the day is long, Bucky. This offense 367 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: might be the most QB friendly offense in the league. 368 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: You want to find out if the guy can play quarterback. 369 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: Pull out clips of third and ten plus where everybody 370 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: on the planet knows you're passing, and the stretch boots 371 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: and all that stuff ain't there, and layups underneath and 372 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: throwing hand garnades down the field to your talented wide 373 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: receivers can't get you. Gotta play real quarterback in those situations. 374 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: I just I'm not buying that they might win a 375 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: super Bowl with him because they're so good on defense. 376 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: But I'm not buying that he's some great young prospect 377 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: that that's the reason he got benched at Northwestern. There's 378 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: a reason. I think every situation is different. Did Denver 379 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: Broncos have a unique situation where they've really done a 380 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: great job of building up their defense, but on offense, 381 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: they have found some playmakers outside uh to Marrius Thomas, 382 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: he may backs. Uh, they have backs in DeVante Booker 383 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: and c. J. Andrews a fullback they're using. And so 384 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: the system allows you to play with You talk about 385 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: a trailer like he's he's a trailer. He's a small trailer. 386 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: He's not even he's a trailer on the back of 387 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: the pickup, not even a big, big trailer for you, Rick, 388 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: But he's been effective and as long as he avoids 389 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: the turnovers, they can win games. And so it will 390 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: be interesting over the next couple of years. Knowing what 391 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: is coming down to college pipeline to see how many 392 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: teams shift gears in terms of the a team building, 393 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: uh philosophies when it comes to building around a quarterback 394 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: or building the other stuff and plugging in a guy 395 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: that can just play winning football at the position. My 396 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: one thing real quickly on Ostwiler after watching the tape, 397 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: a couple of things made some poor reads so as 398 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: bad as some of the throws where the reds were 399 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: concerning to me, miss some miss some uh some reads 400 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: there had some opportunities, didn't take advantage of pocket awareness 401 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: is something that can improve. I think some of that's 402 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: confidence related. He tried to bail out a couple of 403 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: times in there was room to climb up in the pocket. 404 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: They're not very good up front that I've never seen 405 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: a double knee blowout on one play that was tragic, awful, 406 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: awful to see that um and then he just missed 407 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: some throws, so uh, you know, look, they've got a 408 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: way to go there before they get on the same page. 409 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: One guy that I'm gonna talk about on on a 410 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: TV buck quiz, Rodgers, how about him by Buccaneers that 411 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: he he ran all over the forty niners. And when 412 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: you watch the tape, it's fascinating because they played a 413 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: lot with three tackles, so they're getting Gostar chairless as 414 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: their third tackle, putting them in there. So they're playing 415 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: with three tackles and then two tight ends. It looks 416 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: like the darnedest thing you've ever seen. When you see 417 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: all those dudes stretched out. It's like watching Stanford what 418 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: they're doing there, and they had no answer for it. 419 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: And then over a hunting yards again, they've had success 420 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: running the football the last couple of times we've seen 421 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on the field. They beat the 422 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers by running the ball, which is Rogers run 423 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: a really downhill at the Panthers and and and having 424 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: a lot of success in between the tackles. And then 425 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: against San Francisco forty running the ball once again, when 426 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: you run the ball, you alleviate and take something to 427 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: pressure off Jamis Weston. And maybe early in the season 428 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: Dirt Cutter was asking his young quarterback to do too much. 429 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: But what I'm seeing from them when it comes to 430 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: Jamis Jamis has a comfort level with Mike Evans. He's 431 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: finding them in critical situations. He's throwing the ball up 432 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: to him and they're having success. But it's all predicated 433 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: on the run game. The Atlanta Falcons have let the 434 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: tamp Bay Buccaneers back into the mix in the NFC South, 435 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: maybe because they found a running game solution, and especially 436 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: when Doug Martin gets back, maybe the Bucks have found 437 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: a recipe for success by being able to run the ball, 438 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: spilled the defense and get selected plays from Jameis Winston. Yeah, 439 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a theme we see right these quarterbacks. 440 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: You find a quarterback that's struggling, I'll find you a 441 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: running game. It isn't very good. It's just it is 442 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: what it is. I wanted a homework assignment. And guys 443 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: behind the glass, you jump in on this as well. 444 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: And then, uh, if you're listening, send us tweets and 445 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: let us know who you would recommend for this team. 446 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: I want to put a team together. Buck all right, 447 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: where we use this phrase all the time and scouting 448 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: bad body, good player, right, you use that. I'm sure 449 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: you use it a bad body. Yes. When I was 450 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: in Caroline, we had God Jermaine Wiggins who played tight 451 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: end all Hall of Fame, bad body, good Players, terrible body, 452 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: Donald Penn, bad boy, good player. Danny Shelton for the Browns. 453 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: I didn't watch him this week, but he's played really, 454 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: really well this year. He's been a good football player, 455 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: bad body. So I think we need to create a 456 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: starting lineup offense defense of our bad body good player team. Now, 457 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't just have to be a guy that's that's 458 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: that's heavy or overweight. It can be like a real scrawny, 459 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: skinny guy. I would say Cole Beasley. I mean, he's 460 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: in great shape, but he's you wouldn't look at him, 461 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: say it is a guy that kind of reminds me 462 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: of a kind of funny body, but playing well at 463 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: the position. Not necessarily what you would draw up when 464 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: we're looking for wide receivers. Bad body, good player. See 465 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: that that's a that's a good one to have. Who 466 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: else do we have? Buck off the top of your 467 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: head you can think of? If we really think about this, 468 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: I think we'll come up with a with a really 469 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: good list of guys. What do you got Vince wolf 470 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: Fork bad body. I think another guy that would fit 471 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: into that would be maybe Eddie Lacy. Eddie Lacy, bad body, 472 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: good player, good player, good player, but like not a 473 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: great player. Good player, the worst of body, the more 474 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: he comes more to the average player than good player. 475 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking through. Who's going to be our quarterback? Uh oh, 476 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: I got one, Sam Bradford. It's a bad body, yeah, 477 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: not not necessarily almost knockknean, very very skinny, bad body, 478 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: good player. You know Jamis before we got in shape. 479 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: He's a shape now, so we can't can't use it 480 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: one more? Yeah that I think that's probably your best 481 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: one because I'm looking what about Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger, Yeah, but 482 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: I don't he's just he's a big dude, big bone. 483 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's got a bad body, though, I 484 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: don't know since his rookie year. Okay, I feel like 485 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: he's getting a ton of light. Yeah at he's he's heavy, 486 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: But I don't know if I'm gonna go totally bad 487 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: body on him yet. What are the positions do we 488 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: need here? Tight end? Who's our Jermine Wiggins is a 489 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, great patriot? Who else? Buck? Anybody? We 490 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: got to find a tight end, and we do need 491 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: to find a tight end. Let's see what my tight 492 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: end a heavy tight ends you know right now, Antonio 493 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: Gates would be that guy. Oh you think he's going bad, 494 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: but have an old old heavy can't really move the 495 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: way he used to. Still good player, but if you 496 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: saw him like that, even on that last kiss, like 497 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: his shirt flew up and you can kind of see 498 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: like his compression shorts and back fat and stuff like that. 499 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: But he still makes plays. He just doesn't move to 500 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: he used to because his body's not what it was. Right, 501 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: My new Molly unit was a good one. Right, he's 502 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: nicely done out of the bullpen back there. That is 503 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: a nice one. That that is nice. That's a nice one. 504 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: You said, golden tape for one receiver. Can we think 505 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: of another receiver, another receiver that is is kind of weird? 506 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: You know who has a funny looking body a Sean 507 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Calvin Benjamin on me. Oh, Calvin Benjamin is actually 508 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: a nice that's nice. Yeah, let's put him Inelvin Benjamin 509 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: because he is big. He is big, like he looks 510 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: like his little face is squished his helmet. So yeah, 511 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: we go, we go. There, we go Calvin Benjamin and 512 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: go didn't Those are those are wide receivers are running backs. 513 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: Eddie Lacy is definitely our running back. We need a 514 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: full back. Fullback, mean, we can always use a fat 515 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: fullback anywhere. We can always use it. I gotta thing, 516 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: this is something we need to really Yeah, you know 517 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't bowl. Well, maybe that's why the Carolina Panthers 518 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: are shrugged. There had a couple of bad bodies over there. 519 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: Oh you know who's you know who's a defensive tackle 520 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: for our bad body good team? Nick Fairly m he 521 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: didn't have a skinny lower legs and kind of a 522 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: belly belly. Vince Wolfock was also in there because he 523 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: has is a big we can go, well, we'll go 524 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: with our two dts will go, Will Fork and fairly 525 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: defensive ends who's kind of a heavy defensive end have 526 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: not necessary you know who. It just looked funny because 527 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: we even talked about like Brandon Graham is not necessarily Yes, example, 528 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: let's see who else I mean, Dooomerville's got is. I 529 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: mean it's just a different look as an edge rusher. 530 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: He is. But and then it depends on if you 531 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: get good to real sugs or bad sizzle. Sometimes sizzle 532 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: can be a little heavy in the trunk. Yeah, sizzle sizzle. 533 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes you can get us at one of those guys. 534 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: We take one of the ravens again. Know, if you're listening, 535 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: please send us, send us some recommendations here well no, 536 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: no pun intended will flush this out. Yeah, we're supposed 537 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: some time working on this one. Have body, good player. 538 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna work that for Thursday. All right, Buck, let's 539 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: get out of here. We gotta go do some TV. 540 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: We did we we do have to see something. But 541 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: before we do, real quick college picks baby who who 542 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: Who's second week in a row, second week climbing back 543 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: in it a bad week? Man. I saw you tweet. 544 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't even respond that the Arkansas Armory game really 545 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: really hurt me because I picked Arkansas whoopee suky and 546 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: they got a blish. I don't think I was only one. 547 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: I think I was the only one that ended up 548 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: going with Yeah, J, you went I have the stature 549 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: thank you from from Kent. So this week, d J 550 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: you went nine and two, Sally went eight and three, 551 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: Kent went seven and four, and Bucky you were last 552 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: in six and five. But Bucky goes bold. See Bucky 553 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: can go on a swing, he can go higher Yeah, 554 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: I was. I was a caboose. I need to come 555 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: back this week. I'm gonna focus a little more more, 556 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: even read up and study a little bit like I've 557 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: been going off to cuff. I need I need to 558 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: study a little more. Do you guys want the overall records? Oh? No, 559 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't actually, but I'm coming. I'm making a comeback. 560 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: You are coming back, so Kenson first sixty and twenty three, 561 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: then Bucky second, three games back, Sully's third fifty six 562 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: and twenty seven, and then DJ your fourth. But you're 563 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: only nine, so to back a third place, man, I'm 564 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: three games back. You were in first place for a minute. 565 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: We'll do our picks. By the way, make sure you 566 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: listen to our Thursday episode. We'll do our picks Bucky. 567 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: Prior to this last week, the most embarrassing thing in 568 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: my entire life. I was trying to think of it. 569 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: Probably two moments. I'm gonna give them to you real quick. 570 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: Sixth grade softball game, the sixth graders versus the teachers, 571 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: playing first base of jeans, a little snug, go for 572 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: the go for the uh. The stretch ripped the jeans 573 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: just right down the middle. It pained me. I had 574 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: to leave the game because I had to go home 575 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: and get a new prayer of jeans, and we lost 576 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: to the faculty. It's very disappointing. It was very embarrassed. 577 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: That was previously number one on my list. Number two, 578 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: probably after we sold our house in Baltimore. Um, I no, no, 579 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: I take that back. It's when we bought our house 580 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. So I wasn't really big. I didn't know 581 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: how this whole thing works. I've been working like crazy, 582 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: and my wife said, we gotta go to the closing, 583 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: so we gotta get ready to go. So I had 584 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: taken a day off at work, which as hard as 585 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: a young scout, came days off to go take care 586 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: of this. So I go to the house to help 587 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: move in, and this guy doesn't have his stuff moved out. 588 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: So we go to closing. I thought closing with just 589 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: our realtor some bank people and I need to sign 590 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 1: some documents. So I walk in and they go, hey, 591 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: how's how's everything going, And I go, it's been going great. 592 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: If the seller we'll get their crap out of my house, 593 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: I can't move in and he get the guy sitting 594 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: at the tickles, Yeah, that'd be my crap. This is 595 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: got uncomfortable. So those previously my two most embarrassing moments. 596 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: They have been replaced because I lost to Dan Helly 597 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: and fantasy football this week. Oh no, egregious. I don't 598 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: know how I show my face out in public? How 599 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: did you lose? Maybe the worst fantasy football manager in 600 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: the history of fantasy football, Dan Helly, and I lost 601 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: to him. How did you lose? I don't know? He 602 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: had like he started, Jack Doyle for crying out loud. Jack, 603 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: it has been a player ate my killed me. So anyways, 604 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: that was That was my weekend. Oh that's a bad one. 605 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: All right, we gotta go do TV alright, roll the music. 606 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for checking out Move the Sticks. We'll be 607 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: back on Thursday with a new episode focusing on college 608 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: and we'll touch on some big NFL games. Until then, 609 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: we'll see you later. Thanks for downloading Move the Sticks 610 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, go to 611 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: NFL dot com Slash Podcasts