1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: Dirty Birds. 2 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: What's up and welcome to another Atlanta Falcons podcast. I'm 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: your host, Will McFadden. I'm joined by Taron walk Taran. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: We're here to discuss your list of five defensive tackle 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: free agents that the Atlanta Falcons could consider if they 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: are in the market for defensive tackles. Yes, yeah, exactly, 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: it's free agency cycle. Well, we'll get to all of that. 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: But you know, the last time we were together on 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: a show was at the NFL Combine. It is now, 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: you know, a week since we came back from Indianapolis. 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: We're recording this on a Thursday. Do you have any 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: lasting impressions from the combine. 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: I can't believe it was a week ago. 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: I know, right, and it's crazy. 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: Uh wow. 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: I think the difference between last year's NFL Combine in 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: this year's NFL Combine is what stands out most to me. 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: Because last year it was so clear that it was 19 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: the talk was quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, And because the combine 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: comes before free agency, it was like, what are they 21 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: gonna do? 22 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Are they going to go through free agency? Are they 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: going to go through the draft. 24 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: So we had to look at both free agent and 25 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: draft prospects, and this year it's kind of like they're 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: at number fifteen, so it's not as high as they'd 27 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: probably like. But at the same time, it's a very, 28 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: very defensive heavy draft this year, so there are options 29 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: even in that area of the first round. So now 30 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: it's a completely different conversation in that we're looking solely 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: at defense rather than solely at offense. 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: Even though people did want an edge last. 33 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: Year, people have wanted to an edge every single year. Yeah, 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,639 Speaker 2: so you know that that never changes. 35 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: The conversation just changes. 36 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: You say, though, as high as they probably would have 37 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: liked in terms of the draft, I don't think they 38 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: want to be high in the draft. I think they'd 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: rather be picking at thirty two, right. 40 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: But it is hire's always better, that's true, you know. 41 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: But I if you're not like gonna win the Super Bowl, right, 42 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: go get the highest draft pick that you can get. 43 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: I understand that that is philosophy. Used to subscribe to 44 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: that philosophy, but I don't. We're not here to get 45 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: into all of that. 46 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: I sorry, open ready to It's it's. 47 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: A discussion that we're going to save because it's worth having. 48 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: It's I've got a lot of feelings on the topic, 49 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: but it was interesting hearing it wasn't quarterback, right, but 50 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 2: the Falcons kind of needs still line up really really 51 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: well with this particular draft class, And I think that's 52 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: kind of what my takeaway was is. Last year, you know, 53 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: the Falcons were talking quarterback, but so was everybody because 54 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: the draft had so many good quarterbacks. This year, Falcons 55 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 2: are looking defense. Guess what, the draft has a ton 56 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: of great defenders. So whether it is you know Shamar 57 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: Stewart who lit up the combine with his performance, or 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: you know one of the Georgia guys, or Mike Green 59 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: or James Pierce or a corner or one of these 60 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: you know safeties. When Nick emm and Worry was able 61 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: to do was incredible. Like, there's just so much fun 62 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: stuff to talk about with the draft, in particular on 63 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. So that's going to 64 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: be really fun for the Falcons and we will have 65 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: so much more draft talk coming in the next weeks 66 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: months leading up to the draft. So if you like 67 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: all of this, be sure to describe, subscribe, check out 68 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: our YouTube channel and follow along. 69 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: Butt And that's all, folks, that's all. 70 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: That's that We're done for today, in and out boom, so. 71 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: Even here to talk about the draft. 72 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: We are just beginning. We are just getting started with 73 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: free agency, which will kick off officially in a week marginally, 74 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: well for less than a week. It's crazy that it 75 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: is almost here. It definitely does defensive tackle. Tara and I, 76 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is really going to be 77 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 2: a position that is at the top of Atlanta's free 78 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: agency wish list, and yet we're going through each position. 79 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: So yet I was assigned the story. 80 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: You were assign the story, and like a true trooper, 81 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 2: you followed through. 82 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: So I understood the assignment. 83 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: Where do you start when you were thinking about who 84 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: would make sense for the Falcons? 85 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: Well, there is the massive disclaimer that the Falcons have 86 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: folks like Grady Jared, David on Mana, Ruca Rower Row, 87 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: and Brandon Dorla, so they have like both ends of 88 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: the spectrum when it comes to age and experience, so 89 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: that this isn't a position of need necessarily, but depth 90 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: is always good. 91 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 1: And that's kind of the argument here. 92 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: And so the first one I got into do do 93 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: do do scrolling because I. 94 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: Can't even remember what I wrote like a week ago, 95 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: which I really hope I say his name correctly. Javon Kinlaw. 96 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: You got it? Is that a hard name for you? 97 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: Everything is difficult on this Thursday. I got back from 98 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: Marty Girl yesterday. 99 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: That's that's fair. So I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna 100 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: ouch you. 101 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: But you fine got all right? I mean between the 102 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: combine and that like it. 103 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 3: It's been a busy off season already, both work and play. 104 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: Do you want this water? I have a water. 105 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Don't worry. It's like my fourth one day for you. 106 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: Hydration is key. 107 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: I picked him because he would be coming from the 108 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: New York Jets, which is where obviously Jeff Olbrick comes from, 109 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: and maybe, just maybe they can build on that foundation 110 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: that they started in only one season together here and 111 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: in Atlanta, because he is a former first round draft pick, 112 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: but he never really got going in the way that 113 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: people probably wanted or expected out of a first rounder. 114 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 3: But last season was his first entire full seventeen games slate, 115 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: starting and so, and he showed like the potential. He 116 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: showed like what maybe they would have wanted in his 117 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: rookie year, maybe even his second year. And so to 118 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: think that he can do that as recently as twenty 119 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: twenty four. What was to say they can't do it 120 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, And if Albert had a hand 121 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: in that, then maybe he's looking at him again. 122 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for sure, I remember when kin Law 123 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: was coming out of South Carolina and everybody really liked 124 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: him for some of the same reasons we're talking about 125 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart. Just this size kind of bowl in a 126 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: china shop, motor plays with tenacity, the production was all right, 127 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: you know, like you could quibble with it given the 128 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: immense physical ability, and it just hasn't manifested in kind 129 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: of the way that some people during the draft process 130 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: pointed to and said, yeah, he like, he looks great, 131 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: but where's the production. So he did get that this 132 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 2: past year with the Jets, obviously the Obrick influence, Like 133 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: you're hoping that that could translate over here in Atlanta 134 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: and only twenty seven years old. The Falcons have tended 135 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: to like some of these higher draft picks who maybe 136 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: didn't work out at their initial stop. So Javon kim 137 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: Law does make a lot of sense. Like I'm really 138 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: gonna be curious to see what his market is because 139 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: he is kind of coming off of that upswing a 140 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: little bit, right, Like it was his best year so far. 141 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: Now you're hitting the market, that's a good time. 142 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: So it is there a relationship play? 143 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: Yeah? 144 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: Like yeah, so maybe Jeff's got to get on that phone. 145 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: Maybe you get the inside track and say, look, you know, 146 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: we're not going to be offering you as much in 147 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: your one it'll be a little bit backloaded. But for 148 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: your career, Hey, we worked magic together. Let's let's get 149 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: it going one more time. 150 00:06:59,240 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: I like that. 151 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: I like your pitch. Who's your next guy? 152 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: I have bj Hill from the Cincinnati Bengals because he 153 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 3: has shown continuously that he's a reliable option and age 154 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: hasn't slowed him down. But at the same time, like 155 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: can they can the Falcons afford him? 156 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 1: Yeah? 157 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: He's he's chicky, chicky chickie, the most like proven kind 158 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: of probably still in their prime guy. 159 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got he would be like on a similar scale. 160 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: I think of Grady j and David on Yamata. So 161 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: do they want a similar one or do they want 162 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: a future one? If that makes sense? 163 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? 164 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: Like, because again, if if they're signing any of these 165 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: free agents, it's probably because they made the financial move 166 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: to move on from either Grady or David on Yamada, 167 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: it wouldn't make sense to you know, purely from a 168 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: roster building standpoint, it wouldn't make sense to like have 169 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: that at another defensive tackle when you already have him 170 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: on the rosters. So if you are looking at contracts, 171 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: can we kind of get a similar on field value 172 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: for a better contract. Then maybe this is where all 173 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: of this comes into play. And I think bj Hill 174 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: is the closest true replacement for one of those two 175 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: guys on the field. But what does the contract look like? 176 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: That would be the big sticking point here. 177 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: I feel like that's the caveat in all these conversations 178 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: right now. 179 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: It's like, Hmmm, would they like this guy? Probably? Can 180 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: they afford this guy? Probably not. 181 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: You guys want like a list just full of names 182 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: that like nobody knows. 183 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: Is that what you guys want to read? We could 184 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: do it. 185 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: We can make those lists. We could do it. 186 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: That's not they don't know them. I probably don't either 187 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: exactly why do they fit? I don't know they can 188 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: afford them? 189 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but bj Hill three sacks last year fifteen starts 190 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: like he's he's just perennially been a good pass rusher, 191 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: good run defender. He would make a lot of sense here. 192 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: But who is third on your list? 193 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: Bobby Brown? The third, third and third? There you go 194 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: from the Los Angeles Rams. More so because he's younger 195 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: and could be more of a like longer term. 196 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was the future part that you were talking. 197 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: Exactly like the last guy would be immediate and a 198 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: very similar situation to that of as we already said 199 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: Anyamada and Jarrett. This would be more of a future 200 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 3: thing where he can grow, develop even more and be 201 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: around for a bit maybe because he'll have players around 202 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: him like Ruca Rower and Brandon Dorles to grow with. 203 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: Yep, but a little bit older, still a bit older. 204 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's kind of what jumped out to me 205 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 2: when I when I saw this name on your list 206 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: was okay, yeah, he's it's the timeline. Which timeline are 207 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 2: you're operating in? Is it the Grady Jarrett David On 208 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 2: Yumata timeline? Probably not, You know that that window is 209 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: more moved on unless you're trying to in twenty twenty five, 210 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. We're all in, we're trying to win 211 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: you know that the Falcons could take that route, I 212 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: don't know if they will. So for that reason, Bobby 213 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: Brown is much more along the lines of Rooke, Brandon Dorles, 214 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: Zach Harrison, those types of guys kind of the next 215 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: wave of the future. And but he also has some 216 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: starting experience from his time out in LA so you 217 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: do kind of get the best of both worlds. 218 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: I feel like we don't really know what the mode 219 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: is right now because what makes it tough right Like 220 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: thinking back not to bring the combine up again, but 221 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: to last year's it was an in free agency was 222 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: like win now mode, and so you're doing these one 223 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: year splash deals that you think can impact right away, 224 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: whereas like now, you're not having these big proclamations as 225 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: much apart from like defense heavy or like we want 226 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: to fix the pass rush. There's sentences like that, but 227 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 3: it's not nearly as like bold italicized underlined. 228 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not like the overarching theme for what the 229 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: team is building towards. But I think part of that 230 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: speaks to the state of the roster as a whole, 231 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: where you know, offensively, in part because you have hit 232 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: your your first round draft picks for the most part, 233 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: they are in good shape the offensive line, which is 234 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: usually a key like for most teams around the league 235 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: at this time of year, I would say like ninety 236 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: percent of them are pointing to one position on your 237 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: offensive line saying like that's a major priority for us. 238 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: Falcons haven't had to do that the last couple of years, 239 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: which is a really true blessing that people need to 240 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: like be like so thankful for. But you don't have 241 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: that the quarterback position you feel good about right now. 242 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: So that is where it's like an off season, offseason thing, 243 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: and I think defense is just got the focus and 244 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: the spotlight on it. 245 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: It's a very very different feeling. But yeah, seas like. 246 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: Very rarely do you have the Jesse Bates offseason where 247 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: it's like we've got all of this money and we 248 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: can like overhaul one entire set, like we can do 249 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: the kitchen and a living room overhaul. Right Like Usually 250 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: it's just like we got this half bath that we're 251 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: going to like make some tweaks and upgrades too. 252 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Normally I'm the analogy person, Yeah. 253 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: And who would have thought I would have been like 254 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: home renovation coming from me, But yeah, that's that's where 255 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: we're at in our lives. 256 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: Aren't you redoing your kitchen soon? Yeah? 257 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: That's okay, that's where it came from. I'm telling her myself. 258 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 2: Let's go to the fourth person on your list. 259 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: My fourth one is Jaron Reid from the Great University 260 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: of Alabama, though that was many, many years ago. 261 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: I just had to plug it in there. 262 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 3: On the last podcast, you challenged me to find people 263 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: where like more niche and whatnot, So I was like, 264 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: all right, where are the Crimson Tide graduates? But I 265 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: also think Jaren Reid would be one of those veteran 266 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: presence presences. 267 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Where he doesn't. 268 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: I don't think you hear his name as much out there, 269 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 3: out and about in the streets whereas but like you 270 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: look at what he's been doing, and he's been consistent. 271 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: So I know you got into like the why he 272 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: fits with that story, and I was actually kind of 273 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: surprised you picked him. I was a little happy too. 274 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: I was like, whooh, okay here, I don't know. I 275 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: just didn't think you would pick Jaron Reid. 276 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: Who did you think I would pick? 277 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: Probably the first guy thought yeah. 278 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah again. 279 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: I I debated that he. 280 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: Was going to be my second, my second choice. 281 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: You picked Jaren. Okay, that's exactly why. I hope that's 282 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: that's the reason. 283 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: No, it it has I think a lot to do 284 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: with what we were just talking about with bj Hill 285 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: and Bobby Brown. It's like you get a little bit 286 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: of obviously more of the former with like the experience 287 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: and the veteran ness of it. But to me, it 288 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 2: comes down to you invested in Rouke and Brandon Dorless 289 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: and Braylin Trice who's coming back, Like they've got a 290 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: lot of people on the defensive line. We were having 291 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: this same discussion in training camp when we were looking 292 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: for roster cutdowns, just kind of being like, I like 293 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: a lot of these names, but I'm sorry, Lakale London, 294 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: like I don't know if you can make the roster 295 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: given just like how many people I like were We're 296 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: talking about Contavious Street and we're talking about James Smith 297 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: Williams and like those guys all made the roster, Like 298 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 2: they kept more players than I thought they were going to. 299 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: And so you kind of look at how full this 300 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: group is. They're going to want to get some of 301 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: those young guys some snaps. And so when I was 302 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: looking at like Bobby Brown or Javon Kinlaw. I was 303 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: just thinking about what timeline are you operating on, and 304 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: Jaron Reid fit the role of like he can come 305 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: in here, have more of a specifically defined role with 306 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: this team and be more of like that six man 307 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: off the bench coming in to do exactly what you 308 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: need him to do. To me, that's rushed the passer. 309 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: And if you had to move on from one of 310 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: your main stay like veteran into your defensive guys, who 311 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: are both very good pass rushers in their own right, 312 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: to me, that's the skill that you need to have 313 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: a plan to replace, and it's harder for you to 314 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: rely on Rouke or Brandon Dorles kind of like in 315 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: their first first years as full time starters in this 316 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: hypothetical scenario to provide that juice in the past. So 317 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: I would like have a veteran guy coming in still 318 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: fills that role of like I've been around the block, 319 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of things. Let me teach you 320 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: and seer you in the right direction, and then when 321 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: you need me, I'm coming in. But I'm not a 322 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: full time starter, And you could probably save a little 323 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: bit of money with them because he's older. 324 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: That makes sense. 325 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: That was kind of my thinking, was like having a 326 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: very clear vision for him as opposed to sure, if 327 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: I'm just like starting a team from scratch, like Javon 328 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: Kinlaw is probably going to be the guy because he's 329 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: twenty seven, former first round pick, big, strong, like all 330 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: the things. But for this team this moment, I'm going 331 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: John Reid. 332 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: What they would pick would say a lot about like 333 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: I want them to make their first free agency move. 334 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: It's way too soon. 335 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: They can't do that, like following all rules always yep, 336 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: but like the first one on that Wednesday, Thursday, Friday 337 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: of next week is gonna say so much that we 338 00:15:59,040 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: don't know right now. 339 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: It is going to be like I write, I think 340 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: I've got an idea of what their plan could be, 341 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: but I thought they I had an idea of what 342 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: their plan could be last year, like the year before that, 343 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: and every time I'm always nobody's ever one perfect. Right, 344 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: they make that first move and you're like, oh, okay, 345 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: now now it gets fun. Now we're seeing the vision 346 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: actually coming to life. 347 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I completely agree. 348 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: You had one in house pick, as we've been doing 349 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: for each of these kind of series and I like to. 350 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: Keep an in house pick just to throw those free 351 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: agents a bone too. For sure, I went with Eddie 352 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: Goldman solely because the Falcons love him. 353 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: I mean, he kills a nice role. 354 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: They tried keeping him around for how many years. I 355 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: just think the story and it's like persistence is key, 356 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: is my takeaway from Eddie Goldman's experience with the Atlanta Falcons, 357 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: because what they signed him, but then he retired, and 358 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: then he came back and they signed him, but then 359 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: it didn't happen. And then they signed him last year 360 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: and actually played and he did well. It was like 361 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 3: welcome back. So yeah, that's my roundabout explanation. 362 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: He's he is like the Falcon's own little like resident 363 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: Hallmark movie. Yeah, he just kind of we know I 364 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: love those. So he's stuck around. He's he's been really 365 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: determined and yeah, he he has filled kind of that 366 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: nose tackle role. Which was another reason why Reed stuck 367 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: out to me, was like he can. He's a bigger body. 368 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: He's like six pounds, but like Goldman's like three twenty five, 369 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: Like he's massive, and for the Falcons to have gotten 370 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: the production they did last year out of him on 371 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: the defensive line like that that goes a long way. 372 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: The best teams have usually players like that. The Eagles 373 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: didn't because they have just the craziest names on the 374 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball that you've ever heard of, 375 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: but most teams haven't. Eddie Goldman said, the fact that 376 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: the Falcons were able to find one last year you 377 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 2: know me, and that we probably have an exciting free 378 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: agency period ahead of us, because I do think Terry 379 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: Fono has been good at almost like when he's got 380 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: difficult circumstances to work with, he does better in those situations. 381 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see what they've got coming up. 382 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: But that is all we've got for you, Taran, thank 383 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: you so much for joining me. 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