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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifty seven,

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Speaker 1: Episode five of Dirt Dailies. I Guys Stay, production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Friday,

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Speaker 1: October seven. My name is Jack O'Brien a K. I

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Speaker 1: saw the first real Woodstock was a boomer in my prime.

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Speaker 1: Met your grandma in the mud was the summer of

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Speaker 1: sixty nine. That is courtesy of Johnny Davis. Just working

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Speaker 1: off of that bad mental image. We had discussing where

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Speaker 1: where the this generation of kids came from. And it's uh,

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Speaker 1: at least some of them must have been conceived that

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Speaker 1: the line started in the mud in the summer of

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Speaker 1: sixty nine. What stock. Anyways, I am thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined by a very special guest co host producer on

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Speaker 1: many great podcasts, great podcasts such as The Daily Za guys,

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Speaker 1: it's super producer Becca Roma. Uh don't have an a K.

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Speaker 1: But I'm happy to be here. Yeah, you are here

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Thank you so much. And Becca,

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Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by an organizer with Unite Here Local eleven in l

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Speaker 1: A who is and has been successfully fighting to win

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Speaker 1: material games for workers, immigrants, the unhoused, people of color,

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Speaker 1: young people, everyone who has been neglected by the city

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Speaker 1: of l A. He's currently doing that by running for

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Speaker 1: city council in l a thirteenth district, where he got

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Speaker 1: the most votes in the first round of the election,

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Speaker 1: upsetting a heavily funded incumbent. Please welcome to the show, Hugo.

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Speaker 1: So tell Martinez what's up? Thank you Jack, Thank you Becca.

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Speaker 1: Happy to happy to be here, happy to represent just thirteen. Yeah, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: excited the the election is coming up, the beginning of

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Speaker 1: what how many days out are we? We have thirty

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Speaker 1: three days last death. Yeah, how are you feeling? You

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Speaker 1: seem energized, you seeing everybody in the neighborhood, everybody because

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Speaker 1: I am District thirteen, and people seem energized, motivated. The

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Speaker 1: signs are showing up. I'm loving to see it. The

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Speaker 1: signs showed up on my yard. But yeah, it's exciting times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're very excited. Feeling good. We're locked in, were zoned in,

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Speaker 1: you know, just looking forward to election day. Nice. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we are going to get to know you a little

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Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our

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Speaker 1: listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. I

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Speaker 1: am going to ask you why why we should be

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Speaker 1: thinking locally when we're facing these massive global problems. I

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Speaker 1: don't I that's something I struggle with And I know

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Speaker 1: we come back to a lot on this show, is

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Speaker 1: you know, as we talk about these intractable, huge problems

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Speaker 1: that that is what we talked about a lot is

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Speaker 1: like that's where you can do stuff. But I just

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Speaker 1: want to hear hear your thoughts on that. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about jaywalking laws because that that was actually a

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Speaker 1: history I didn't know about. But is I think a

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Speaker 1: then outward ripples and not Now. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: And I didn't want to like get you on the

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Speaker 1: a big one that I think people want to know

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Speaker 1: we obviously want to talk about that and just get

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Speaker 1: you on the record on something incredibly stupid. The people

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Speaker 1: want to know, the people want to want to know.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's the first question you're getting at rallies

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Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something

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Speaker 1: from your search history is revealing about who you are? Well,

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Speaker 1: forward to election day for sure. Yeah, what's it? What's

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Speaker 1: But what is there anything new you're doing as you

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Speaker 1: I don't know when folks will hear this this episode,

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Speaker 1: momentum for last election day, and so I always say

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Speaker 1: it is your community and your support that will carry you.

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Speaker 1: Happens every single time. It's like you're getting close to

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Speaker 1: going to be the inflection point. Is this weekend? Nice?

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Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated? I went, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna name names because I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: respect for this taco spot, but it's it's it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a very delicious food that you eat, but it's

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Speaker 1: it was a little overrated. I was like, this is

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Speaker 1: let me just say that a taco does not have cheese,

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Speaker 1: or or or or a bunch of It's very decorative.

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Speaker 1: It was very delicious. But I would say, text mex

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Speaker 1: the as the Texan in the room, text mex tacos

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Speaker 1: That's the ingredient that you will not allow on a taco.

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Speaker 1: But what about like cohita cheese cheese? Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: like now that keep those which is different. Tacos does

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Speaker 1: think is underrated? As far as movies go, There's there's

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Speaker 1: one movie that I really really love, like the watches

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Speaker 1: over and over, and that's the movie Little Nikki. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I love that movie. It's in my top five I

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Speaker 1: never heard movie Becca's Very Young. Little Nikki is Adam Sandler.

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Speaker 1: seemed like the same thing was happening with Little Nikki. Right,

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Speaker 1: doesn't he do like a voice the whole time? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: change that seems insurmountable, a mainstream political system and mainstream

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Speaker 1: difference you saw between you know, how the bosses and

427
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Speaker 1: the powers that be in that instance treated you right

428
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Speaker 1: like once there was the possibility of of organization. Can

429
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Speaker 1: you talk about that story a little bit, Yeah, absolutely, so.

430
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Speaker 1: I was. It was my my last year at college.

431
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: I was a working student, so I worked this hotel,

432
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Speaker 1: this non union hotel job from high all the way

433
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: through high school and college and my senior year and

434
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Speaker 1: like getting ready to go to law school and I

435
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: was literally doing my use at prep course and I

436
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: had it books. I was going to take it in

437
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: June or so July and the union came to my workplace.

438
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Speaker 1: I said, you know, I want to want to organize.

439
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: I met with the organizer, you know, just to give

440
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: this story very quickly, you know, we we were doing

441
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: on this under secret, and finally came the day where

442
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: we were revealed ourselves right that we were organizing the union.

443
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: And we came in with like thirty five forty workers

444
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: demanding respect. And I was off that day, and so

445
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: I came and I did that and I left. And

446
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: then a few days later I came back to work

447
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: and I thought I was gonna get fired. And I

448
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh, they're gonna fire me. You know, I

449
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen. And it was quite the opposite, right.

450
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: The managers were like, what did we do wrong? You know,

451
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: how can we make it better? What can we do

452
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Speaker 1: for you? And for me, it was very clear because

453
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: I was always very outspoken as a worker, and my

454
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: managers would try to say things and I would be like, actually,

455
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: you know, the law says this, you know, because they

456
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: knew I was I was going to go to I

457
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: was going to law school. But it never changed the

458
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: way they treated because they understood, we have the power.

459
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: We have all right, we can write you up, we

460
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: can discipline you. You you know who cares, right, But

461
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't until we did this collective action that they

462
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: were freaked out. You know, they just they did they

463
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: just completely started respecting us. And so eventually we won

464
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: our first contract and you know, people didn't have health insurance.

465
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: Now they had health insurance. We had low wages, you know,

466
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: used to beg to get a cent raise, you know,

467
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: fifty cent raise. We're getting like we got dollar raises

468
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: for the first time, you know, and all these amazing things.

469
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, like collective power works, and

470
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: it was just so life changing for me. And I

471
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: think people that go through that experience it's sort of

472
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: like it's an awakening. It's like wow, like I you

473
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Speaker 1: can actually change the conditions that were that you know,

474
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Speaker 1: that are around his every single day. And so so yeah,

475
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: it became my lest calling. That's really cool. Yeah, And

476
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Speaker 1: I feel like that really does tie into like the

477
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, trying. We on this show, we try and

478
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, pay attention to the zeitgeist, and it does

479
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: feel like there is a just general waking up to

480
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: the reality of the situation that when corporate power has

481
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: nothing to oppose them, they are going to do things

482
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: that are bad for people, you know, and just good

483
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: for the bottom line if unchecked. So yeah, it is

484
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: definitely good to see that and hopefully you know, you

485
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: and everybody can kind of keep up, keep up that fight.

486
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Speaker 1: So I wanna, I wanna take a quick look, quick

487
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Speaker 1: trip into the past to look at something that I

488
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: had never thought about, but that was sort of a

489
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: local battle in the nineteen twenties that has really shaped

490
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Speaker 1: the world we live in, and that is jaywalking laws.

491
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Speaker 1: So this is in the news because California will soon

492
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Speaker 1: decriminalize jaywalking, the traffic violation, not the j Leno Tonight

493
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Speaker 1: Show segment, which should should be made illegal. I think

494
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Speaker 1: they should do it just a trade of that jaywalking

495
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Speaker 1: is illegal. This jaywalking is no longer, but the Freedom

496
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Speaker 1: to Walk Act will go into effect on January one,

497
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: and it's a good thing because jaywalking laws are I

498
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: think the legal term is fucking stupid. They disproportionately. They

499
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: also just give the police the ability to, you know, stop,

500
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Speaker 1: It's an opportunity for them to just stop people whoever

501
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Speaker 1: they want. It's more opportunity for the police to go

502
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Speaker 1: after marginalized and low income residents. Yes. So my question

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Speaker 1: with jaywalking laws specifically when because I feel like it

504
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: has been a colloquial like funny ha ha as like

505
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: a young adult growing up of being like, oh, you know,

506
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: you can get arrested for jaywalking, but you cross the street,

507
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: no one's ever bothered you, Like, are the reason they're

508
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: decriminalizing it now is because they are still actively picking

509
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: up people on the sides of the road, Like is

510
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: it that you can get arrested for being on the

511
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Speaker 1: side the road? Is it that you can be arrested

512
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Speaker 1: for just because I always think of it as like

513
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: you're crossing the sidewalk when it says red light, you know.

514
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: But now that I've been you know, kind of perusing

515
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Speaker 1: the dock, it seems to me that they can and

516
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: will target on house people often of jay walking, so

517
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Speaker 1: to speak. But really it's just because they don't want

518
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Speaker 1: them around, right, Yeah, I mean, so I think this

519
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: is in in California as an example of actual progress

520
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: and people recognizing that this has just been uh. In

521
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Speaker 1: twenty nine of illegal walking tickets issued by New York

522
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: police were two black and Hispanic people. So that makes

523
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Speaker 1: sense to me. And it's fucked up as a walking

524
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Speaker 1: city where or I mean, most people don't have cars

525
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: and most people can't you know, like they have to

526
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: get wherever they need to go. And that's crazy to

527
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: me to think that I could ever be ticketed in

528
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: a city like New York where everybody is fragrantly on

529
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: the street at all times, and and the laws actually

530
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: don't do anything to protect people like in the UK,

531
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: for example, jaywalking isn't illegal, but in eleven they had

532
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: half as many pedestrian deaths per one thousand people as

533
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Speaker 1: in the US. So I think it's like the question

534
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Speaker 1: that this raised to me is not like why are

535
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: they making this legal now? And more why why was

536
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: this ever a thing? Like how did this ever become

537
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: a thing that you that they can police and arrestue

538
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: based on like where you are walking and how you

539
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: are walking. It does begging the question of I don't

540
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: know if it was just offline conversations I've been having

541
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: over the week or also I feel like we were

542
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: talking about it when it comes to like the white

543
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: flight and the suburbs, and how suburbs are so designed

544
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: for you not to be like walkable. They're like walkable

545
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood, so to speak, but like if you

546
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: were to walk to the other neighborhood, you can't really

547
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: do that, like you need a vehicle. Like is it

548
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: also to police people in the suburbs so that there

549
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: aren't fragrant you know, people in those neighborhoods. You think,

550
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure there that is. It's used in

551
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 1: that way, like the police use any law as a

552
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: tool to you know, go after whoever they want to

553
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: go after. But it actually so before the nineteen twenties,

554
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: everybody could use the streets, which crazy concept. It doesn't

555
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: seem crazy to me, like it seems I really like

556
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: as somebody who is coming to the point, and you know,

557
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: my kids lives where I'm trying to you know, I

558
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: I lived in the suburbs and you know, not not

559
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: a big city like a suburb of Daton, Ohio, And

560
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: I my life was spent just like getting on a

561
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: bike and riding around in the streets, and like my

562
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: parents were just like, al right'd be back when when

563
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: it's dark, and like the the idea of my kids

564
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: just going out and being able to ride around on bikes,

565
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I have to like go to

566
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: an abandoned parking a lot to like teach them how

567
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: to ride a bike. And there's just so like it.

568
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't even and and even walking around our neighborhood,

569
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Speaker 1: you know, there's just so like the cars really own

570
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: the streets in most major cities. And this is all

571
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: the result of the nine twenties. So the thing that

572
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: happened was, you know, in the cars were basically seen

573
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: as a rich person's like hobby. They were like yachts

574
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: because they're so expensive, and they started running over mostly

575
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: children and elderly people in cities and the so the

576
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: cities at a local level like fought back. Cincinnati had

577
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: a big, you know referendum where they tried to make

578
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: it so that cars could not go over twenty five

579
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: miles per hour just at the like manufacturing level. They

580
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: were like, please, this is you're you're killing people. And

581
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: that resulted in the automakers kind of coming together, you know,

582
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: taking their own collective action and creating you know, affecting

583
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Speaker 1: these laws. And because there wasn't like collective action on

584
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: behalf of children and elderly people who just want to

585
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: be able to walk down like in their neighborhood, they

586
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: were able to slowly, over the course of a hundred years,

587
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: just like create the world that we have now where

588
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: it's very strict pedestrian controls. They invented jay walking. They

589
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: did like a marketing campaign. So jay used to be

590
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: a term for like hick like and so they everything

591
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: stems from a derogatory at some point. Yeah, so they

592
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: like created this marketing campaign and like they were there

593
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: were they like hired a Santa Clause at one point

594
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: to like heckle people for not walking legally. And in

595
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: the city like there they hired clowns to cross the

596
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: road and in some cases like ram them with cars

597
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: to make jaywalking seem foolish. Like there was this large

598
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: scale mass like culture brainwashing marketing thing that happened, and

599
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: it just slowly, over the course of a hundred years,

600
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: took hold to the point that I like never really

601
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: even considered the possibility of a world where you know,

602
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: my kids could just like go out and roam the

603
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: streets of l A on a bike and like be

604
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: safe from getting run over by a car like that.

605
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: That is, that is the status quo that we were

606
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: starting from. But because of the way that things operate

607
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: in in the US, because there was money to be

608
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: made by carmakers, there was a massive cultural or you know,

609
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: both cultural and political move by them over the course

610
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: of years to create the world that we have now

611
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: where you you feel like you're in danger of both

612
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: being arrested or getting hit by a car and it

613
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: would be your fault if you just want to cross

614
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: your street. Wow, this is incredible, incredible history you're you're

615
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: talking about because I think, I mean, it's it's funny

616
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: like when I grew just being raised and living in

617
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: the city, you just assumed the streets for the cars, right,

618
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: that's it, especially in a city like l A. Yeah,

619
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: Like LA is such a big car place. I grew

620
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: up in the suburbs of Texas, but my family grew

621
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: up in l A and New York, and I felt

622
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: very similar where It's like, in my very specific I

623
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: lived on a cul de sac by my parents purposely

624
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: picked a could stack house so that we could be

625
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: in the coldest sack safe and because they were worried

626
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: if we lived on like a house that was more

627
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: on the street part of you know, the neighborhood, that

628
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: we could get hit or whatever by just like biking out.

629
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: But like in the coldest sac at least people have

630
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: to like come all the way down there and see

631
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: people and slow down before they make the spin. But

632
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: I also have a Harvercraft mom, love you. You know,

633
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: she didn't let me out anywhere. She was hot eyed

634
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: at all times, yelling at people for driving too fast

635
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: at all times. And but yeah, I definitely grew up

636
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: in a place where I'm like I will until I

637
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: moved to a real city, or not even a real city.

638
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: I moved to Portland when I graduated college, and that

639
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: was the first time I was like, whoa, you can

640
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: like walk around in a city. You can like you

641
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Speaker 1: can like get from pointing to point b by your feet,

642
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Speaker 1: Like never knew what that was. Like. I always thought

643
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: I had to get a car to drive ten minutes

644
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Speaker 1: somewhere because it's just like simply was not safe to

645
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: like walk anywhere in Texas. Yeah, and it's it is

646
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: you know, the the stuff that when when we talk

647
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: about like acting locally, but like a lot of times,

648
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: the foe that you're operating against is power powerful and

649
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: either you know, national or international, you know, And so

650
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Speaker 1: that's just the the organizing on behalf of people and

651
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, the communication having media that isn't just straight

652
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: up controlled by these same you know, by the same

653
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: profit motive, like the the auto industry group that took

654
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Speaker 1: control of a series of meetings that were like meant

655
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Speaker 1: to discuss this problem was headed by Herbert Hoover, who

656
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: was then the Secretary of Commerce, to create a model

657
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: traffic law that could be used by cities across the country.

658
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: But due to their influence, the product of those meetings

659
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: was largely based off traffic laws in l a, which

660
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: had already kind of enacted the strict pedestrian controls. These

661
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: powerful people are acting on behalf of the most powerful

662
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: thing and in the country, which is the whatever is

663
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: going to make the most money, well the government, and

664
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Speaker 1: the government acts on behalf of whoever is going to

665
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: make the most money. You know, Herbert Hoover wasn't acting

666
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Speaker 1: on behalf of like the children who had lost a

667
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: sibling too because you know, somebody was racing around on

668
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: their horseless carriage. He was acting on behalf of the

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Speaker 1: you know, he was the Secretary of Commerce, so his

670
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: job was to act on behalf of commerce and and

671
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: that became you know, he became president so well, and

672
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 1: it's one of those things. I mean, it's a tale

673
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: as old as time in American history of like, well,

674
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: it's not gonna affect me because I have money. You know.

675
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: It's like those people in power and those very high

676
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: seats that pockets are lined by all these different you know,

677
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: head honchos and investors and things like that. At the

678
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: end of the day, they're like, whatever I do to

679
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: make a decision that is benefiting my pockets. I know,

680
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Speaker 1: even though it's abhorrent and it's going to hurt children

681
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: or whatever, they're not gonna hurt my children because I

682
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: have the money to fix this problem in my home,

683
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: which is so buck up. Yeah. Well, I find it

684
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: very interesting that people are starting to like deconstruct the

685
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: laws that were created over time and the facts like this.

686
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: I thank the Internet for this because you imagine, growing up,

687
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Speaker 1: all we had was Britannica in the library. So the

688
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: fact we have so much information. Now we can actually

689
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Speaker 1: dissect it and look at it. But I think the

690
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: very interesting thing is how, you know, sort of the

691
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: how sort of how white supremacy and like these laws

692
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Speaker 1: show up in the the sort of the policing. And

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Speaker 1: so I'm very proud that we did this in California.

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Speaker 1: You know, hopefully it would be a model for folks,

695
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: because you know it is they do target you know,

696
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Speaker 1: black and brown folks or working class folks. So yeah,

697
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean even super Producer put in the chat tupas

698
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Speaker 1: to the Oakland Police Department for ten million for stopping

699
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: him while jaywalking and choking him out for resisting arrest

700
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: like black and brown, no matter the pockets eyes. That

701
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: is absolutely insane. Yeah, and I think you're right that

702
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: we're starting a movement in the opposite direction. We're starting

703
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: to see movement in the opposite direction of people having

704
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: access to more information than they would have in the past.

705
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: When you know, in the nine twenties, like it's there,

706
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: there aren't like a bunch of like radical zines or

707
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, the radio shows were like brought to you

708
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: by Jared All and they were just like you know,

709
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: cowboys shows or some ship so yeah, hopefully, hopefully this

710
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: can kind of we can kind of continue this this

711
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: movement in this direction, and you know, small victories at

712
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: a local level today, Like could you know, if you

713
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: if you look at how different things went from the

714
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: nineteen twenties to the twenties where used to be people

715
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: could walk around and feel safe walking around, and when

716
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: you know, the ultra wealthy, we're running children, you know,

717
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: the the children of poor, underrepresentative people down in their

718
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: yachts like that, there was a backlash and and now

719
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: we live in a world where that that seems completely

720
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: out of out of bounds. Like maybe with this new

721
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: access to information and new movements at the local level,

722
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: like small victories now can create a future that is

723
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: unrecognizable to us a hundred years from now, in in

724
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Speaker 1: a good way. Yeah, absolutely, knock on wood. All right,

725
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and then we'll come back

726
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: and talk about the thing that I think everybody's really

727
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: wanting to hear. The away in on Mario's Dumper. And

728
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: we're back and yeah, so so there is a controversy

729
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: happening in the world of Mario. The first controversy around

730
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: this movie was that Chris Pratt Is is cast as

731
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: the voice of Mario. I'm still having a hard time

732
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: like imagining it, picturing it. I'm gonna go see it,

733
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: but I'm still uncomfortable. I need that it's to me

734
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: and he's should have been Chris Pine, right, Is that

735
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: what we're all saying. No, it's very strange, Like it's

736
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: funny to see the direction Hollywood has gone talking about

737
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: like changes over time that the original Mario movie was,

738
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: Bob Hoskins. I love the original Mario movie, like something

739
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: I watched a lot as a kid. But so this

740
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: is less in that traditional more in the tradition of

741
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: the Sonic thing, which Ugo. I don't know if you were,

742
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, paying attention back when Sonic released a early

743
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: trailer for the first Sonic movie and they gave him

744
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: like real, like two separate kind of smallish eyes, like

745
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: it was it was genuinely like frightening. Well yeah, and

746
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: they literally got so much backlash that they had to

747
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: like stop the release of the movie and push the

748
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: date back and reanimate and like re launch the movie.

749
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: That's how bad it goes. And I can see the

750
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: meeting where this happened, where they're like real animals don't

751
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: have one goggle eye like connected in the middle of

752
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: their head. And we're trying to bring Sonic into the

753
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: real world, and so you know, they created something that

754
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: looked more like an actual creature that might exist. It

755
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: just happened to look terrifying, and I think that might

756
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: be what's happening with Mario. But because there's this whole

757
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: new controversy where in the recently released poster Mario's but

758
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: is people are saying far less pronounced, it's just it.

759
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: It really looks like a what what an actual plumber's

760
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: body looks like. He's kind of like thick in the middle,

761
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: and then there's just not not nothing there. It's just

762
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: a kind of straight line down in the back. But

763
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: to me, this is not I mean, granted we have

764
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: not seen what Mario looks like from the front, this

765
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: isn't an egregious look to me as the Sonic one

766
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: that was. I dropped an image in the chat for

767
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: y'all to see the side by side of what the

768
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: original and it was in the trailer and then what

769
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: they animated it too, because it was like they got

770
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: so much yeah, terrified, but yeah, it's but I'm like,

771
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: he still looks cute. He still looks like cute little

772
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely like animated Mario versus like when

773
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: the live action Mario movie came out, Like, I'm glad

774
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: this isn't live action. I guess what I'm saying, because

775
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: like I do expect live action Mario to look like

776
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: the fixed image on the right of the stock, and

777
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: I would be upset if it was more of the

778
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: left right. Yeah, if he's just like got you know,

779
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: like gin blossoms on that point, I look more like Mario. Yeah,

780
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: which I have been Luigi for Halloween, so great. Yeah. Yeah.

781
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: I am of two minds of this, of this issue.

782
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: You know. I believe we should be body positive, yeah,

783
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: and to encourage all kinds of bodies. But then again,

784
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: I have a nostalgic connection with Mario, and I just

785
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: picture Mario with a with a butt. Yeah. And also

786
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: it's you know, there's plenty of fictional characters, like cartoon

787
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: and comic characters that don't have a butt, you know,

788
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: like that. It's they've had representation the sort of just

789
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, v shaped to a cartoonist degree superhero body

790
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: where there's like nothing going on in in the butt region,

791
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: and I have written many notes to the editor about this.

792
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: But Superman needs cakes too. But people are also pointing

793
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: out that one of his superpowers, like starting in Mario

794
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: sixty four, is a move called the butt stomp a

795
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: k the ground pound, which both terms sound way dirtier

796
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: than they should, but it involves him spinning in the

797
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: air and landing on his ass, and without the cushioning,

798
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 1: obviously he would shatter his hip bones. But logistically, logistically speaking, yeah,

799
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: like we we need he needs some padding back there.

800
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: But also just I I feel like in terms of

801
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: overall body positivity, we don't have that many characters that

802
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: are stacked back there in the cartoon world, so the

803
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: like I want him to bring bring the cakes backs

804
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: representation is important, and also I would like to I

805
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: now have been in Google Images looking at old images

806
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: of Mario, but I'm like, Mario is a thick king, okay,

807
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: and we're like, like, I want to see an image

808
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: of him from the front for this new movie, because like,

809
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: if they've slimmed him down, that's not the body of

810
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: positivity movement I'm looking for. I want my thick king back.

811
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that we're representing all types

812
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: of desirable cartoons, right, Like if they give Mario a

813
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: six pack like he needs a gun, I'm sorry, I

814
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: cannot have a six pack. That's not the Mario I know. Yeah,

815
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: and this isn't even the first time this year that

816
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: a Nintendo character's asset has come under scrutiny, and March

817
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: fans worried then update for Mario Kart Diminished Warriors, but

818
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: and I mean it definitely did if you if you

819
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: look at the side by side images. So I don't

820
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what they think they're doing over there, Nintendo,

821
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: but they're they're making a mistake. The only skinny character

822
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: allowed is Walluigi, right because he's literally a pencil that's

823
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: kind of his whole deal and acts now nourished. Yeah, alright, well,

824
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: I think we've solved this. Bring the cakes back, and

825
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: you know, if we have to start organizing locally about this,

826
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: then we will. Yeah, you've you've heard it, Nintendo, who

827
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: go such a pleasure having you? Is there is there

828
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: anything that you you'd like to kind of shout out

829
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: about about the campaign, about what you know that that

830
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: we missed While talking about Mario's butt, and other stuff. Yeah,

831
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: please uh speak, speak to what what you're fighting for. Yeah,

832
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean hoping to give working people a voice, you know, organized, organized, organized.

833
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: Every issue we talked about, whether it was starting at

834
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: the local level or taking back our streets, which, by

835
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 1: the way, streets for a group here in Los Angeles

836
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: is doing that fight as well, or if you have

837
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: strong issues about you know, someone's rear end. It's always

838
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: about organizing, organized, organized, organized, That's right, right, and and

839
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: uh yeah, you know folks have reached out. It's been incredible.

840
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: A few days ago, someone from from Massachusetts reached out

841
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: about how do I organize the union in my workplace?

842
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: And so, you know, always making myself available to put

843
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: more oxygen into the fire and so anything. Folks can

844
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: reach out to our instagram or website. Yeah, where can

845
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: people go to kind of find you and get involved?

846
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely so. Our instagram is on Twitter is my name

847
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: h U g O for f O R C D thirteen.

848
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: And our website is We'll Go for We'll Go, We'll

849
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Speaker 1: go dot com. There you go. And is there a

850
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: tweet or a work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh? Yes,

851
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: every Tuesday we do uh out Tuesday, it's me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a big foodie and so every Tuesday I go to

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Speaker 1: to be a food connoisseur for the district as well.

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Speaker 1: What's what's your favorite thing that you've had in the

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Speaker 1: over the course of of that journey. Oh so every

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Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday on Sunset right by the Sunset and

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Speaker 1: Ken Moore, I believe there's a pop up time market

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Speaker 1: take over the street and it's only two days a week,

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Speaker 1: but it's incredible, such amazing food, you know, brings a

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Speaker 1: lot of attention and foot traffic to the area, which

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Speaker 1: It's it's my favorite spot so far right now. Nice

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Speaker 1: that well, thank you so much for joining us. Becca.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Is there a tweet or

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Speaker 1: some work of social media you've been enjoying. Everyone can

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Speaker 1: find me at Beck's b e CCS, Ramos on all platforms.

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Speaker 1: You can find me at Meal Mundo's in Bushwick here

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Speaker 1: in Brooklyn every other Saturday. I'll be there this Saturday.

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Speaker 1: And a couple of tweets. I have one bye at

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Speaker 1: Piggy don't miss but I found it through the Instagram

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Speaker 1: like live comedy show hating on then um, but the

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Speaker 1: tweet is having a National Boyfriend's Day to the girls

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Speaker 1: who don't know if they're allowed to call him that

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Speaker 1: yesterday was National Boyfriend's Day. Shout out to mine. He

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Speaker 1: was mad. I didn't say anything, but I find that

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Speaker 1: tweet hilarious. It hit my core as a girl who's

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Speaker 1: been in a few situation ships myself. You're like U

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Speaker 1: hurt um. Then one from at Diva Lacey the scam Goddess.

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Speaker 1: She tweeted, I will be selling high vibrational fish plates

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Speaker 1: outside the ET Awards. It'll call back to what moms yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So that it was funny. I don't know if we

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Speaker 1: got that on Oh, it might have been. Yeah, off Mike,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about the scammers out there on the internet.

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Speaker 1: Life coaches. So yeah, there's a great video of one.

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Speaker 1: this other woman's life coach, and she's like shipping on

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Speaker 1: her plate that she was served and you're watching it

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Speaker 1: and you're like, huh, like I don't understand, Like to me,

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Speaker 1: it looks like yummi plate of food, and she's just like,

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Speaker 1: I would not let anyone put that on my plate.

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Speaker 1: And you're just like, I like huh. And she was like,

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Speaker 1: it's not vibrational, Like my plate is high vibrational, and

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Speaker 1: it's crazy, so amazing. A tweet I've been enjoying Puppy

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Speaker 1: Love tweeted accidentally told Amelia Badelia to slay everyone stay inside,

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Speaker 1: you know, as we're as we're doing the horror reboot

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Speaker 1: of Winnie the Pooh, maybe maybe we take a take

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Speaker 1: a look at Amelia Badelia also. But you can find

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Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find

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Speaker 1: us on Twitter at Daily Zyguys. We're at the Daily

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Speaker 1: Zygeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and

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Speaker 1: a website Daily zi guys dot com where we post

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Speaker 1: our episodes and our footnotes, but we link off to

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Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as

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Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Super producer Justin. Do you have a song that you

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Speaker 1: think people might enjoy? I do. This is a song

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Speaker 1: by a amazing artist called Now. She's from East London.

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Speaker 1: I recommended her music before. This song has a close

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Speaker 1: tie to me. It gives me the vibes of like

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Speaker 1: kiss from a Rose, but like a modern day version

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Speaker 1: of that where there's more modern production going on in

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Speaker 1: this but very very big song, huge emotions. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: if you want to check this out and have yourself

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Speaker 1: a good day after listening to some good music, this

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Speaker 1: is a life like this by now In a Oh

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Speaker 1: and you can find that song in the footnotes. Thank

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Speaker 1: you Justin. The Daily Ze Guys is a production by

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. For more podcast from my Heart Radio, visit

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Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio, up Apple podcast or wherever you

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Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows that it is going to

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Speaker 1: do it for us this morning, back this afternoon to

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Speaker 1: tell you what is trending and we will talk to

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