1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, The Stock Mover's Report, 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: your roundup of companies making moves in the stock market. 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Harnessing the power of Bloomberg data. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: Let's take a look at some stocks on the move today. 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: I'm Tom Keen with Paul Sweeney and Bloomberg's Lisa Mateo. 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning. Yeah. I'll try my best, So 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: I'll start with the Intel ticker i NTC the share. 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: There you go. 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 3: You got the sound effects too. In the little und 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 3: shares have been up as much as four percent. So 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: here's what the deal sources selling Bloomberg. Intel approached Apple 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: about an investment in the company. They also talked about 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 3: how to work more closely together. Still in the early stages, 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: might not even come to an agreement. But it's not 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: just Apple. They're saying that they're talking with other companies too. 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: But the thing is is that Apple was a longtime 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: customer of Intel, but it switched to its own in 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: house processors the past few years. So the Apple chips 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: are now produced by Taiwan Semiconductor manufacturing. But they're saying that, 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: you know what, the Apple is likely to stick with 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: their own. 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: I'm a living breathing example of this. My main computer 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: at home is what's called a twenty nineteen Intel NEC 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: and it was back before Taiwan Semi yep and all that, 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: and it's all it's not at obsolescence yet, but you know, 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: you know where they could, I mean you've been. It's 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: when Dana Iives goes, that Ludlow goes and they do. 28 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: They stand on stage and do the touchy only thing. 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: They won't let me in. They said no ties allowed. 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: But Lisa, seriously, they they're switching over and right now 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: they have a plan to phase out the computers like 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: I have at home. Don't tell missus Keith. 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 4: And look at the I mean this Intel stock. Let's 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: put this into perspective. This stock was in the doghouse. 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: It was for years at so for the past five 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 4: years compounded and your return of negative seven percent per year, 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 4: this year the stock is up to fifty five percent. 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 4: So it feels like it has suddenly caught the AI 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 4: tailwind that it's so desperately needed. And I well, the 40 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 4: government's in for teen center and Videa's in for five. 41 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 4: Maybe Apple's going to be in saw me. This is 42 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 4: their time to shine. Soft Bank so maybe maybe maybe 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: this tike brings them in from the wilderness, the tech wilderness. 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: Next we see. 45 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: Okay, Oracle, we'll go there, O r C, stayeverye are 46 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: you're lucky? I'm not going quantum. Okay. SO shares are 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: down as much as three percent. It comes after they 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 3: kick off one of the biggest bond sales of the year. 49 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: So this was eighteen billion dollars US investment grade bonds. 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: This came out yesterday. So it's ramping up spending right 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 3: that we've been talking about it to meet those needs 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: of all the AI boom. SO sources are saying demand 53 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: peaked at nearly eighty eight billion dollars. So they're issuing 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: dead in six parts. That includes a rare forty year bond. 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: So what can the proceeds right from this sale be 56 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: used for a few things? Okay, you got capital expenditures, 57 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: few future investments or acquisitions, other general corporate purposes. But 58 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: the thing is Oracle begun to fulfill these massive cloud 59 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: infrastructure deals with customers like open Ai, customers like Meta. 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: So over the next several years, Oracle there's projected it 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: has been hundreds of billions of dollars to rent and 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: power down. 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: Look at this year I brought there. I literally stopped 64 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: a shade yesterday. But the number I had at the 65 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 2: time was a printed fifteen gazillion yes, say upside you 66 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: just said eighteen gazillion. Ye Oh, seriously, Paul knows more 67 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: about this than I do. They literally make five. 68 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: Phone calls right, yeah, this is a fly by. 69 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: Call called blackrock. 70 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: They called JP Morgan, what called existing holders and say 71 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: do you want to top up? Here's what's happening here 72 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: in fiscal twenty two. 73 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: You gotta live in the New Jersey shore to say. 74 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: Top up, top up. 75 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: That's literally what I say. It's a top up called 76 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: you want top up your position? Fiscal twenty two four 77 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: and a half billion of capital expenditures this year thirty 78 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: five billion capital. So that their negative free Cashel because 79 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: they're saying we're just throwing money against his AI think 80 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: and hope for the best. 81 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: My favorite screen, folks, for those of you were the 82 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: terminal in the car, the WACC screen. Tom Sekunda told 83 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: me about this. Let's pretty good. Way did average cost 84 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: to capitol screen? Oracle. Lisa's like, why are we doing this? 85 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 4: Oracle? 86 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: Ready? Thirteen percent long term debt one percent, short term 87 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: debt blended fourteen point one percent eighty six percent equity, 88 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: so they got that's a lot of bonds compared to 89 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: the other mag five six, seven eight, but still way 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: below like Ford Motor. You know, right, others do we 91 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: beat that to death? 92 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: We did? 93 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: Is there something to say, don't you do quantum? 94 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: I'm not doing quantum? 95 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: Toothpaste? 96 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: Hell to CarMax okay, k MX. It's been down as 97 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: much as thirteen percent, all right. So they had big, 98 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: big Ernie's for share sales shortfalls in the second quarter. 99 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: The reason why it looks so big compared to last 100 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: quarter the previous quarter, people rushed to get cars because 101 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: they were trying to get ahead of the twenty five 102 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 3: percent riffs on the imports from April. So that's the 103 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 3: reason why the tick down now. They also had losses. 104 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: If you look at the loan side of the business, 105 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: Carmack's Auto Finance, their income decreased more than eleven percent. 106 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: Their provision for loan losses was one hundred and forty 107 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: two million compared to one hundred and twelve million in 108 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: the prior year. Second quarter, but it's starting to affect 109 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: other stocks like Carvana. 110 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: The Stock Movers Report from Bloomberg Radio. Check back with 111 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: us throughout the day for the latest roundup of companies 112 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: making news on Wall Street and for the latest market 113 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: moving headlines. 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