1 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Hello Colts fans, and welcome back to another episode of 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: the Two Minute Drill Podcast. I'm Amanda Foster, and this 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: week I'm joined by Colts Coordinator of Radio Production Casey. 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: Valier full title bringing the D have to I. 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Introduced Lara Overton last year with her full entire title, 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: So now I gotta do it for you. 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it things, Yeah, of course. 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: So Casey, you and I have been working together on 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: our Instant reaction podcasts. You've been hosting them with Bill 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: brugsp after the preseason games this year, and it seems 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: like you and Bill have always ended up talking about 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: the roster and the construction of the team. So I 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: figured now would be a great time to have you 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: on this podcast because the Colts just cut down the 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: roster from ninety one two fifty three guys on Tuesday. Yes, 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot to talk about, a lot of names 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: to get through. So thinking that I'm going to just 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: go through position by position, I'll read out the names, 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: you and I will talk about takeaways, surprises lack of 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: surprises for some groups, and then we'll kind of go 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: from there. 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely works for me, all right. 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: So got to start with quarterbacks. 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: Obviously you've got three Daniel Jones, Riley Leonard, Anthony Richardson Senior. 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: Kind of what we expected. 26 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: Riley showed out in the Bengals game, yes, last preseason game. 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: I think that kind of solidified the emergency third quarterback role. 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: But there seemed like there wasn't really a question if 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: they were going to have someone or not. 30 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: Right, So that that's kind of been an area, especially 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 3: you know, for the majority of Chris Ballard's time here 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: with the Colts, but definitely within Shane Steichen's tenure here 33 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: is keeping three quarterbacks. So I think we kind of 34 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: went in with that being kind of the baseline, expecting 35 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: it to be three quarterbacks. Early in I think we 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: all thought there would be more of a competition battle 37 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: for that third spot between Riley Leonard and Jason Bean. 38 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: But Ryley Leonard kind of grasps that early in camp, 39 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: clearly solidifying the you know, the kind of the reason 40 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: the Colts went out and selected Riley in the draft. 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: They liked him, they targeted him, and by all accounts, 42 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: he had a really good training camp. I think there 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: were those typical rookie ups and downs that you're going 44 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: to see but I thought in game situations, he looked 45 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: like a guy that was kind of, you know, I 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: know this term is very you know, used a lot, 47 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: but kind of a gamer. 48 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: You know. 49 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: It was like you see him make a couple mistakes 50 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: in practice, and then the game time comes around and 51 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: those mistakes kind of go away and he's able to 52 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: move the ball down the field. Especially, yes, call me 53 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: collected that. I mean that last game against the Bengals. 54 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of times you look at that 55 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: final preseason game as what it is. It is a 56 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: lot of twos and threes taking on twos and threes, 57 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: threes and fours, and it's these guys, you know, they're 58 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: fighting for their NFL livelihood. Some of them are the 59 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: young guys, you know, trying to earn a roster spop. 60 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: And then some of these guys are guys that are 61 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: really trying to grasp onto that last opportunity to play 62 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: in the NFL. So you don't get what you would 63 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: typically see in a week one as far as competition goes. 64 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 3: But I think what you saw out of Riley Leonard 65 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: in that game, he looked pretty poised. He looked like 66 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 3: a guy that the moment wasn't too big. And we're 67 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: talking about a guy who played in a college football 68 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: national championship game a year ago. So yeah, with you know, 69 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: everybody is watching every single game you play on Saturdays, 70 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 3: so we didn't think he would be the moment would 71 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: be too big for him because he's played in big moments, 72 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: especially as a senior in college. Every game was seemingly 73 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 3: a big moment. But I thought he looked really, really good. 74 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: And this is not the discredit what Jason Bean put out. 75 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: I thought Jason Bean went out and played pretty well. 76 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: You know, he currently is not on the practice squad, 77 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: but he's a guy that this staff knows, so you know, 78 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: don't be surprised that at some point you kind of 79 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: see Jason Bean being back bounced back and forth with 80 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: the Colts practice squad. But then, you know, you talk 81 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: about the guys one and two. We knew Daniel Jones 82 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: won that quarterback competition, so you knew he was going 83 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: to be the starter heading into the week, you know, 84 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: against the Dolphins coming up next week. But then we 85 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: heard from Chris ballor this week about the growth that 86 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: Anthony needs. 87 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: To take like we've been hearing, right, and that's. 88 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: Exactly where it is is. It was just reaffirming the 89 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,119 Speaker 3: fact that the staff's not giving up on Anthony. There 90 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: are still areas he needs to grow, and this is 91 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: one more opportunity for him to really learn, you know, 92 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: kind of what it takes in the classroom and all 93 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: of that stuff, and trying to maximize every opportunity that 94 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: he gets, whether that majority is going to be as 95 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: a scout team guy or taking those mental reps. So 96 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 3: you know, that's kind of where we are at quarterback. 97 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: But you know, I thought you mentioned, you know, with 98 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: Ridley Leonard at the top, you know, him being that 99 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: third quarterback, I think you really solidified that option there 100 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: as quarterback three on this roster. 101 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, a very athletic, very mobile quarterback room as a whole. 102 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: And that is one thing too that really does help 103 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: because you don't have to change the playbook. All three 104 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: of these guys are very similar builds. Now, Anthony Richardson 105 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: is a different athlete from anybody that plays the quarterback position. 106 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: I mean he is, you know, he's the guy you 107 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 3: create and Madden when you want to have this freak 108 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: of player, and that's Anthony Richardson. But for the most part, 109 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: all three of these guys can give you very similar 110 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: types of playback there, so that that playbook it stays 111 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: the same with all three of them. 112 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: Yep. Now so running backs again, not a whole lot 113 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: of surprise with this when we've got three of them. 114 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Dj Giddens, Tyler Goodson and Jonathan Taylor. Yes, Khalil Herbert 115 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: did not make the fifty three man roster. Not necessarily 116 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: a surprise, he's but he was hurt, yeah, most of 117 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: training camp and then thought of having just the way 118 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: that this roster shaped and shook out, having four running 119 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: backs didn't seem like it was going to be a 120 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: likelihood kind of from the gig go on. 121 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, and with with a with a running 122 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: back room like the Colts have. You know that Jonathan 123 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: Taylor is your bell cow. Yes, so it also that 124 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 3: when he comes to roster construction changes a little bit 125 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 3: of the way that you feel, especially with that thought 126 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: of keeping four running backs. When you have a guy 127 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: like Jonathan Taylor who's going to get so much work, 128 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: it's hard to think about keeping three additional guys outside 129 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: of that, and I thought Dj Giddens, you know, he 130 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: looked every bit the part you know there's still some 131 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: areas you want to see him grow. But I think 132 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: early on we saw Tyler Goodson really you know, cement 133 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: his place on that depth chart and he he kind 134 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: of separated himself from Khalil Herbert. Now with Tyler Goodson, 135 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: he has that elbow injury that he's kind of been nursing. 136 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: We haven't seen him back out of practice at all 137 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 3: this week. Now heading into Week one, we aren't sure 138 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: what his status is going to be. But you talk 139 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: about Khalil Herbert, he's a guy that's on the practice squad, 140 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: And same with Ulysses Bentley, who had a really good 141 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 3: training camp in preseason for this Colts team. I think 142 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: he was a very good player that the Colts were 143 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: able to grab and keep on their practice squad to 144 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: kind of watch him grow because he's a guy who 145 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: I think they saw a lot of promise. So when 146 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: you head into that Week one game, right now, you 147 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: have two healthy running backs, I would assume you're going 148 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 3: to bring somebody up if Tyler Goodson's not able to 149 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 3: be ready to go for Week one, and that gives 150 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: you some options. When you talk about Khalil Herbert and Bentley, 151 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: both guys that have been within that group, they know 152 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: what this offense looks like. But all of that in 153 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: saying you know what you have in Jonathan Taylor. So 154 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: when you look at roster mechanics, I think three running 155 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: backs makes total sense because of what twenty eight can do. 156 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a guy that you give him. Twenty 157 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: eight carries a game and he's fine to do that. 158 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: So therefore it limits what you need as far as 159 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 3: behind him goes. 160 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you talk about reliability, now we go to 161 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: the wide receivers, which is the same room that we 162 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: had last year, yes with Josh Downs, Ashdulan, Anthony gold 163 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: Ad and I Mitchell, Alec Pearce and Michael Pittman Junior, 164 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: which are at a lot of a's and p's yea 165 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: in that group in a lot of different ways. But 166 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I mean we know what nicolets know. Everybody knows what 167 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: they have in this room because it's the same room 168 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: from us here, and everybody just continues to step up their. 169 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: Game, right, And that's an area where I thought it 170 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: was going to be as shock as we were going 171 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: to get, and clearly that's the way it kind of 172 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: shaped out. But I do think that we do need 173 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: to have a conversation about how difficult it was for 174 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: some of those guys to get cut. We heard Chris 175 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: Ballard talk about Lakwan Treadwell being a really really tough 176 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: guy to cut because of everything that he does. He 177 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: totally is that vet, that guy who is, you know, 178 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: trying to maintain his status as an NFL player. He 179 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: does everything right, he works hard, so that one was 180 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: a really hard cut, and I think coleman Owen we 181 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: didn't hear Chris Ballard say it, but I would assume 182 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: that was a very challenging cut because coleman Owen was 183 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: everywhere ye throughout camp, throughout all the preseason games. He 184 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: did everything he could. And coleman Owen is on the 185 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: Colts private squad, so I was very incited to see that. 186 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: And he also shows you what he can do as 187 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: a returner guy too, So you know, if there is 188 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: an injury in that return game, whether it's dueling, whether 189 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: it's Gould. I think, you know, Brian Mason and company, 190 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: they would feel pretty good at what they have in 191 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: a guy like coleman Owen. But no, the wide receiver room, 192 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: it goes chalk kind of expected. You knew those six 193 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: guys were all going to be, you know, guys that 194 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 3: are going to contribute. But I do think we had 195 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: to mention the kind of camp and everything that both 196 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: Lookwan Treadwell had and coleman Owen. So it's it's gonna 197 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: be fun to kind of see coleman Owen's growth as 198 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: he you know, continues into this this journey. He's an 199 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: undrafted rookie free agent. He's a small guy out of Ohio, 200 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: but you know, last year in college football he had 201 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: twelve hundred receiving yards, was you know, top ten in 202 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: all of the FBS. So this guy has been able 203 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: to play at a pretty high level. I mean, the 204 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: MAC it's still a Division one school, so you know 205 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: it's one of those things they're seeing if he can 206 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: continue to make those jumps into the NFL game. 207 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: Right. Moving on to tight ends now again, a little 208 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: bit a tough cut with Joloannie Woods, but it's not 209 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: necessarily a surprise when you look at you've got four 210 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: and do you want to have five? Probably not in 211 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: Moley Cox, Will Mallory, Drew Ogletree, and Tyler Warren, and 212 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: it kind of came down to Mallory and Woods, and 213 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: Mallory had. 214 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: A fantastic camp. 215 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 3: Yeah he did. 216 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: He just flat out he had a really good camp. Yeah. 217 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: And part of it too. And I'm not saying this 218 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 3: is you know, the end all be all, but this 219 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: staff did not draft Jeloannie Woods, Shane Company, Shane steike 220 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: In in the offense. This was one of those guys, an 221 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 3: incumbent if you will, and then missing the last two 222 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 3: years for Jolanni made it a really really tough curve 223 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: to get over top of your Drew Ogle Trees and 224 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: your Will Mallory's. But I do think we have to 225 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 3: tip the cap because Jolannie Woods did everything in his 226 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: power to make it a very, very tough, tough decision. Now, 227 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: Chris Ballard did draft Jelanni Woods, and he's the one 228 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: that has to give those you know, him and Shane 229 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: steke can have to make those hard conversations. And I 230 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: think it was and clearly his play were rewarded as 231 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: he was claimed by the Jets, so he gets to 232 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: continue being on an active roster. And it's it's one 233 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: of those things that for all of us here who 234 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: have known what Jelannie Woods is all he's about It's 235 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: a tough one because we loved him as a guy, 236 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: loved him inside that locker room. You saw some really 237 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: good things with him in accult uniforms. You were hoping 238 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: you continue that. But when you talk about the depth, 239 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: essentially you from last year's roster, you take Kylon grantson 240 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: and you just replace him with Tyler Warren and then 241 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: the other guys are still there in Mo, Drew and 242 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: Will and I think it's a really deep room and 243 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: I think you really started to see that. Yeah, the 244 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: up and down play of what the tight end room 245 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 3: was last year you really saw during training camp. But 246 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: that group can still produce. I think, you know, people 247 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: are you know, not necessarily they're overlooking Drew, Drew Mallardy 248 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: trying and Will Mallory. But I think those guys prove Yeah, 249 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: and that's understandable, especially when you have Tyler Warren, I 250 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: get it. I mean Tyler Warren is you know, he 251 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: is the number one tight end on this room and 252 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: there's nothing that's going to change that. Yeah, But I 253 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: do think that the Colts do have some pretty good 254 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: depth in those guys that aren't named Tyler Warren or 255 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 3: Mohally Cox, like we go out and get the job done. 256 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: Tight end. 257 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: It's like there was kind of the realization of, oh, 258 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: I can go out and catch a ball right too, 259 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: and oh I can do that and this and that 260 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: because they're also getting it seems like more opportunities right 261 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: than the offense to do that because of Tyler being 262 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: there and kind of opening it all up just overall. 263 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: So last group in the offense, this is the long one, 264 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: so we can move through it a little bit more 265 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: quickly and not touch on every single name because the 266 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: offensive line, we've got nine guys. Yeah, so Tanner, Borderlini Macknzalvez, 267 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson, Danny Pinter, Bernard Ryman, Braden Smith, Luke ta Nuda, 268 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Travis, and Dalton Tucker. A lot of guys, A 269 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: lot of guys guy, but not a lot of surprises. 270 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: No, I don't think there was. You know, if you're 271 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: looking at surprises, maybe Luke Tanuda just because he's not 272 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: like that household name as far as the Colts go. 273 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: But when you have the injury to Blake Freeland, it 274 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: opens up the need of having another tackle And honestly, 275 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: you talk about the nine guys, it was an area 276 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: that I thought we could potentially see a claim in 277 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: just because depth on both the trenches is something that 278 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: Chris Ballard loves and you can never have too much 279 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: offensive line depth. But I do think you also get 280 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: a little bit of that versatility that you typically see 281 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: defensively with guys that can play inside and out. Mackenzoalvez 282 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: does if you ultimately get into a pinch where multiple 283 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: tackles are going down, he does have that flexibility and 284 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: he has played at tackle. I'm not necessarily saying that's 285 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: you know, what they're trying to do because he is 286 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: slotted in there as your right guard, he's your starter, 287 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: but he does have some of that tackle experience, so 288 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: there is kind of that versatility with what he can do, 289 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: so you know, when it comes to offensive line, I 290 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: think that was pretty chalk is you know what I 291 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: thought it would be. We had the competition early in 292 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: camp between Borderlini and Pinter at that starting center spot. 293 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: Borderlini took a good grasp of that pretty early. Yeh, 294 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: Pincher had an injury, but I were glad to see 295 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: him back, yes, because he does also off you know, 296 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: he can play guard and sinner, so it's good to 297 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: have anything position flexibility, and especially with Dalton Tucker too. Yeah, 298 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: both of those got We saw Dalton Tucker take some 299 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: snaps at center, so you know, they're trying to get 300 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: everybody versed inside that interior and the exterior. But I 301 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: think offensive line is pretty chalk. 302 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 303 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: Well, and similarly, moving to defensive line now felt like 304 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: it was pretty much as we expected. More names at a, 305 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: Tommy at a bare Yep, DeForest Buckner, Samson, ebicom Neville Gallamore, 306 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: Eric Johnson, the second Layoutu Latu Taekwon, Lewis quitdy Pey, 307 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: Grover Stewart, and J. T. 308 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: Twoey Moloau. 309 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: Tim Smith initially made the fifty three man and then 310 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: was waived when the Colts claimed linebacker Chad Mumma off 311 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: waivers yesterday. So if anybody's looking at the initial fifty 312 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: three man post from a couple of days ago, that 313 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: has no changed. But other than that, so now we've 314 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: got ten defensive lineman. 315 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then that's you know, you talk about that 316 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: initial The thing that did kind of you know, raise 317 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,119 Speaker 3: my eyebrows a little bit was six defensive tackles. Yeah, 318 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: so now it's five. But that is something that I 319 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: thought was going to be a little interesting, But I 320 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: think ten guys up there is probably right at that 321 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: number that I thought it would be. I was thinking 322 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: nine or ten, and I think you got to really 323 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: tip your cap to Eric Johnson. Eric Johnson was a 324 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: guy who was you know, he was with the Colts 325 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, spent a couple of years 326 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: with New England. A late signing here ultimately, and you know, 327 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: some of those guys, it's really really hard when you're 328 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: signed so late to kind of crack your way into 329 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: the end of the lineup. But he really had a great, 330 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: great training camp in preseason, led the team in tackles 331 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: during the preseason, typically not something you see out of 332 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: a defensive tackle. But I think Eric Johnson is kind 333 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: of the guy that when you look at the growth 334 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: that this team really needed defensively, I think Eric Johnson 335 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: he kind of steps off the page. You jumps off 336 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: the page at me a little bit for making the 337 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: most of his opportunities and really forcing the issue on 338 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: we cannot have this guy on this roster because he's 339 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: making his way into that and you know, depth defensive 340 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: tackle has been a key an area they've been looking 341 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: for because you know what you have in Buck and Grove. 342 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: Those are two guys you don't worry about. But when 343 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: you sign a Neville Gallimore, you also need some additional help. 344 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: So guys like Ada Tomoladabarre making that jump and Eric Johnson, 345 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: you know, those are big key things for this defensive line. 346 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: So it's been a really good group to see them 347 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: kind of grow, especially interior, because outside you got a 348 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: lot of guys that can get after the pastor. I 349 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: think they really have a good group, but interior was 350 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: kind of the question mark. But I think they really 351 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: did a good job. 352 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. 353 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: So now linebackers I mentioned Chad Mumma comes off waivers 354 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: from Jacksonville. We've also got Joe Bachi's at You're Franklin, 355 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: Cameron mcgron, and Shigu Aloubi. Some makes five linebackers now 356 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: on the roster, and again felt like all four of 357 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: the guys who made the initial fifty three man were 358 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: it was to be expected. Yeah, I mean, Joe Bachi 359 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: and Sire Franklin went out there and Joe knows Lou's defense, 360 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: which does a lot for him. But mcgron impressed, he 361 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: had a lot of run with the ones as well, 362 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: and Schegu had some good flashes in camp as well. 363 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you also can kind of throw in. I'm 364 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: not sure what the roster move will be, but Jalen 365 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: Carli is on IR so he kind of filters, you know, 366 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: he mixes in there with that linebacker group depth. As 367 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: you know after week four, I think that's when he's 368 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: able to come off IR. So when he gets back 369 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: into the mix, that adds another piece. But you talk 370 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: about Chad Muma also the guy they were able to claim, 371 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: but ultimately with the lou Anarrumo defense, it's going to 372 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: be different than what you've seen in years past, So 373 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: that need for linebackers on defense changes a little bit. 374 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: But the biggest thing that we talk about as special teams, 375 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: and that's where a guy like Chad Muma and Shaghulubi, Yes, 376 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: they really offer big time help and contribution on special teams. 377 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: That's kind of where they're going to make their hay. 378 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 3: So when you look at Bachi, you look at Franklin, 379 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: and you look at Macgron, those are probably going to 380 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: be the three guys as you see most on defense. 381 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 3: When it comes to linebackers, but yeah, definitely those those 382 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: back couple guys in the linebacker room that is really 383 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 3: good special team's depth. And I know that Brian Mason, 384 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure that Chadmuman was a guy that he saw 385 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 3: what he has done. You know, he's been playing in 386 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: Jacksonville key special teamer for a couple of years, so 387 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 3: I'm sure Brian Mason has some experience with that. 388 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, in speaking of lou Anrima's defense, we know 389 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: how much he likes his cornerbacks, and so we got 390 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: to talk about the cornerbacks. So we could do a 391 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: whole episode on just the cornerbacks. So we'll try to 392 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: consolidate because there's been a lot of changes to this 393 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: room even from the beginning of training camp. But the 394 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: fifty three men roster has Mickey Blackman, Jonathan Edwards Xavier 395 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: and Howard Jaylen Jones Canning more of the second intravarious word, 396 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: with Blackman and Howard just recently joining the team. Blackman 397 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: joined he was signed or we acquired him from the 398 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: Vikings in a trade Monday night, and then the roster 399 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: was put in place on Tuesday, right, and then Howard 400 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: arrived just a week or so ago. Yeah, and then 401 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: Edwards is an undrafted free agent, and then you've got Jones, 402 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: Moore and Warren who were expected. Juju Brnce was waived 403 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: has since been picked up by the Miami Dolphins. 404 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: Yes, ironically, yeah, so yeah. 405 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 3: No, And it's one of those things where it has 406 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: been a very fluid group. We went into I think 407 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 3: we all went into training camp thinking that was the 408 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: deepest area, yes, and that included Juju Brints, Jayalen Jones, 409 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 3: Justin Wally. So, Justin Walley goes to I R the 410 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: rookie who was having a really good camp at that point, 411 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 3: great OTAs and then you get the injuries and that 412 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: is Jalen Jones, Juju Brince. So then it kind of yeah, 413 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: so it emphasized that need of maybe we need to 414 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: go outside the building and really, you know, add some depth. 415 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: I think Jonathan Edwards you mentioned it, he really proved 416 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: throughout OTAs and everything that you know, he can be 417 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 3: a guy that early on, I remember the question was 418 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: a wow, who's this guy out here? Starting It's like, oh, 419 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 3: well it's just because they got injuries. Well, he really 420 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 3: proved that, you know, he could be a guy that 421 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: they could really count on. So I think Jonathan Edwards 422 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 3: was a guy early on they targeted, and clearly he 423 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: continued to kind of peauk their interest because he's a 424 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: guy who makes this initial fifty three man roster, an 425 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: undrafted guy, spend some time at Indiana State, then he 426 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: was at Tulane. So Jonathan Edwards bit tip of the cap. 427 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: But you talk about the changeover Kenny Moore Jalen Jones, 428 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 3: the only two guys from a year ago. Sammy Womack 429 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: was claimed by the Titans, Juju Brent's claimed by the Dolphins. 430 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: So a lot of those guys is going to be 431 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: a very new secondary when you're looking at this team 432 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: come week one. But if you look at the resumes 433 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: of Sharvarius Ward, Kenny Moore, Savi and Howard we throw 434 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: in the safeties in buying them, it is it's a 435 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: who's who in the secondary and the coltside. I mean, 436 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: there's a really good chance that if you can get 437 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 3: these guys playing, you know, all on the same page 438 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: and playing at a high level, it could be a 439 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: very dominant secondary for his colts time. 440 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: It's a new secondary and it's a new defense. Yes, 441 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: with lou So that kind of comes with the territory 442 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: in a sense of he's going to go out and 443 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: get the players that he feels our best for his schemes. 444 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: And that's a great way to put it, because I mean, 445 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 3: clearly he's got a vision and that vision was kind 446 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: of upheld by everybody who's making those roster decisions on 447 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: this is what I'm looking for, and that's clearly one 448 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 3: thing that Lou identified and wanted to make sure that 449 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 3: he could kind of mold this defense to look and 450 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: have his own characteristics, and that's kind of what we're seeing. 451 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see what this team looks 452 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: like when Week one rolls around, because I mentioned the 453 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: linebackers how different they're going to look inside this loose scheme. 454 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: It really puts a heavy emphasis on that secondary, you know, 455 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 3: corners and safeties being on the same page and everybody 456 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: knowing where they're supposed to be. So it's going to 457 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: be really interesting to see what happens week one. 458 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and you mentioned safety. So we've got cam 459 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: Binham and then nit Cross, Daniel Scott and riding Thomas 460 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: the second and I mean great for Daniel Scott after 461 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: his game and Sincy and the injuries that he's been 462 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: through the last two years to crack that roster and 463 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: earn the earn the spot and take advantage of the 464 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: opportunity that he got. 465 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's one of the things when you 466 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 3: look at how hard it is to maintain in the NFL, 467 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: especially how hard it is for Daniel Scott to me 468 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 3: in in the NFL, because you're coming off back to 469 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: back season ending injuries that don't even. 470 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: Happen it can out of before camp. 471 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't. This was his first ever training 472 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: camp for the Colts because he had an achilles and 473 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: an acl before camp even started his first two years. 474 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: So he was able to make the most of it 475 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 3: because I mean, ultimately he starts rightfully so on the 476 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 3: depth chart a little lower because they just haven't seen him, 477 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 3: so you didn't know what you have. But I think 478 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 3: he was able to in a couple games during the 479 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: preseason really show what he can do taking advantage. You know, 480 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: Hunter Wohler was a guy who really earned a nice 481 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: spot what looked like to be a team but then 482 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: he's got the little list Frank injury that's going to 483 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: keep him sideline for the year. But you know, what 484 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: Daniel Scott made the most of his opportunities, and I 485 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 3: think what you saw from his game in Cincinnati, there 486 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 3: were a handful of things you really really like. So 487 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: that safety depth it may not have the most you know, 488 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: robust experience behind cam buying him. I know Nick Cross 489 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: is a you know, one year starter, if you will. 490 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: He had a little bit of starts early in his 491 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 3: career but then was sidelined. So ultimately, from a you 492 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: know experience, it's not a whole bunch of experience, but 493 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 3: I think you really like what the guys can offer. 494 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: And Rodnie Thomas has played at a high level too, 495 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: So you've got four guys that you feel pretty comfortable 496 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: with inside that safety room. 497 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 498 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: And then last group, we're almost done. 499 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: Specialists. 500 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: We kind of knew where this one was going. Luke 501 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: Rhodes and Rigoberder Sanchez have been here for ages. Yes, 502 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: and then Spencer Schrader won the kicking competition a couple 503 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: of weeks ago in training camp, and that's that. 504 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: This is your group, Yes, that's it. 505 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing you wanted to see you 506 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: wanted to see where Schrader, you know, his consistency, Yes, 507 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: And The biggest thing that if you look at what 508 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: Matt Gay did last year, it was from forty nine 509 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: yards in. He was pretty locked in, but the struggles 510 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: came from fifty plus. So you want to be able 511 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: to see Spencer Schrader be able to have that longer 512 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 3: leg because that's kind of the way of the NFL now. 513 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: I mean, some of these guys it's like clockwork going 514 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: out and knocking down a sixty yard field goal. It's nothing. 515 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 3: So you want to be able to have that in 516 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: your bag. When Shane Steikin's driving down the field, you 517 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 3: need three points it's a fifty five yard or well. 518 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: We've felt pretty comfortable with Spen Strader, and I thought 519 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: there was some up and downs early on in camp, 520 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: but I think he really kind of settled in, especially 521 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: during the preseason. He looked the part. So yeah, I 522 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: think you feel really good about those three for sure. 523 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: Yep. 524 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 2: So done with the roster. 525 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: We made it through. 526 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: We did it. 527 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: Last thing we got to talk about today because the 528 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: news came out earlier today, is team captains. 529 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 2: Yes, got five again. 530 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: They were voted on by the players, announced by Shane 531 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: Stike and earlier DeForest Buckner quantin, Nelson Zayer, Franklin, Kenny 532 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: Moore of the second and Daniel Jones yep. So it's, 533 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, the biggest one here that I think people 534 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: are talking about wondering about, which is not necessarily a surprise. 535 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: Is Daniel Jones, right, just arriving in the building not 536 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: that long ago compared to the rest of the guys 537 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: on in that group, especially as captains who have been 538 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: here for a long time. 539 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: But he is the certain. 540 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: Quarterback and everybody has talked about for multiple weeks now 541 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: his consistency, his work ethic, how early he gets in 542 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: the building, and the amount of respect that he's earned 543 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: from his teammates. We heard from DeForest Buckner earlier today 544 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: in the locker room and for multiple other guys too, 545 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: just how much, like how good of an impression he 546 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: has given everybody around him in terms of being a 547 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: leader on and off the field, right that they believe 548 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: that this is a guy who is a good captain. 549 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: And he was a captain in New York for many 550 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: years as well, so he has this experience and it's 551 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: not like he's just being put on that spot because 552 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: he's the quarterback. 553 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 3: And I understand that that narrative. It makes sense because 554 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, he's the quarterback, he's got to be 555 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: a camptain. But no, and I do think that you 556 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: brought up a bunch of really good points because that's 557 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: been one of the things that has not ever gone unnoticed, 558 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: at least by me inside that locker room. That's what 559 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 3: everybody is saying about Daniel Jones is how impressed they 560 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: have been. He's the first guy in, last guy out. 561 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: He holds everybody. 562 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: Can you hear that from a guy like Tyler Warren 563 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: who other people say is the first guy. 564 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: Last guy out. 565 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 3: So it's been you know, and it's not just offensive guys. 566 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: You're hearing this from, you know, the whole team. This 567 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: is the defensive guys have noticed as well. So I'm 568 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: not at all shocked that Daniel Jones is one of 569 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: those guys that is a team cap in here and 570 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: the other guys. I mean, if you have a problem 571 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: with that, you haven't been you haven't been paying attention 572 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: to this team because I think that you know, Zaire Franklin, 573 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 3: he has been easily probably the biggest leader on this 574 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: team for the last five years at least. Kenny Moore 575 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: is another guy who day in, day out, that's whatever. 576 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 3: And then Buck and Q. They may might be the 577 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 3: most vocal guys, but they lead by example and you 578 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: follow when those two are are doing anything. So not 579 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: at all a shock there. But yeah, Daniel Jones, I 580 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: understand it from the outside looking in, but this is 581 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: a guy who has he has done everything it takes 582 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: to be a quarterback in the NFL, and part of 583 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: being a quarterback you kind of have to take on 584 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: being a leader, being that team captain, you have to 585 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 3: do all that stuff because I mean it's the toughest 586 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: job in sports. Yeah, I mean, I don't care what 587 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 3: sport you're playing. That that's where it is. So not 588 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 3: at all surprised with Daniel Jones and the other guys. 589 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: As you said, you just go ahead and pencil. Those 590 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 3: are not pencil, you go right them in and sharpie. 591 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 3: Before the season, that's right. 592 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: Now, Well, we're getting closer and closer to week one 593 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: that we are about time. 594 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 3: I need to talk about some actual things that we've seen. 595 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 3: You know, preseason is great because we actually had some footage. 596 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: But now we're like, all right, let's make some stuff 597 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 3: that really counts. We're ready to go. 598 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and we're we're getting there next week, full 599 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: steam ahead. That's right against the Miami Dolphins. But for now, 600 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: that'll do it for this episode of the Two Minute Drill. 601 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: As always, be sure to subscribe to us by Indianapolis 602 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: Colts Podcasts and keep up with all the latest on 603 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: colds dot com. 604 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: Casey, thanks so much for joining me. Appreciate you having me. 605 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: I've been a man of foster. Thanks so much for 606 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: tuning in, and we'll catch you next week.