WEBVTT - The Family Stand (Part 2) 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.040 Quest Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.880 Hey you guys, you know we were having too much fun, right? 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:09.200 You know it's fun when we're just going all over 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.280 the place. This is one of the most random, non 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:17.000 sequitur Quest Love Supreme episodes ever, probably even crazier than 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.040 the dess in Mirror episode. I will just say that 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.920 we're just going all over the place, and it's so informative, 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:29.120 so entertaining, and so hilarious. This just might be my 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.400 favorite episode of Quest Love Supreme ever. Yes, I'm going 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:35.920 on record, Jimmy jam I might have to break your heart. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.519 You might be number two. This is probably one of 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.879 my favorite moments on this on this whole experience of 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.160 bringing you guys information. So, without further ado, this part 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:51.159 two of the Family Stand episode on Quest Love Supreme. 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.920 So we were on you. I'm sorry where you're ruly 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:03.080 rude interruptions like that? Um yeah, So I mean what 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.040 she said she said something that we we definitely should acknowledge, 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.600 which is, you know, Jimmy giving her the heads up 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.480 on a certain someone. Thank you for getting giving me 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:17.240 the heads up on Oh wait a minute, what happened 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:23.280 her solo recording which one Sanctuary album that Yeah, what happened? 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:28.640 Oh god? So what you left? You left? Well, I'm 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.560 not saying Maryland, Bob and Sylvia, but just to return 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:36.800 to them. Wasn't your solo project on? Okay, how what 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:42.200 time do we have? So? Um? Are we going to 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.880 be crying out to the story? Probably? No, No, it's 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.120 actually kind of funny when I look back. Was it 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:53.600 funny then? But so I was of course. So so 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:58.040 as a group with Atlantic, they were signed as producers. 0:01:58.160 --> 0:01:59.840 It was going to be a producer's album, but then 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.560 he decided to make it just us. So then they 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.000 had to sign me in an inducement letter, right, so 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.800 I was signed separately. They were committed to five albums. 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.440 I was only committed to three albums. And after that 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.920 third album, we we saw that the label wasn't gonna 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.360 give us any real love, right. It was like they 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:22.160 were treating like do do so, so you know, we said, look, 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.720 let's just let's just take you someplace else. Your you, 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.560 your your deal was up. Let's go do basically fam 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.600 saying someplace else but just under your name. Okay, So 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:35.320 because I was free and that was fine, and so 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.359 I remember the meeting with me and our and our 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:45.519 manager Abby with Sylvie ruin and uh he Sylvie ruined Thal, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.920 So just let us sit for us. I gotta I 0:02:49.919 --> 0:03:06.919 gotta rep fante like you, he's crazy. I love it 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.920 that she's like original, she tells me the the whole time. Well, 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:15.000 so we're in the meeting and Abby's explaining to her. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.200 So basically, we're here because Sandra's deal is up, and uh, 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:20.919 we just want to let you know that you have 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.320 first right of refusal, so you could, you know, pick 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.359 her up a solo artist or she's going someplace else. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.200 And she was like, no, that's not true. That's not true. No, 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.800 that's not true. And he said, but it is. No, 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.240 that's not true, that's not true, but it is. That's 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.079 when this one on for like three or four times. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:38.240 She picks up the phone calls business affairs. Uh huh, 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:42.400 slam the phone. Now, oh she was mad. So she 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.320 was mad as hell. And then she was just like, okay, 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.120 she was tight, man, she was tight. So we we 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.320 we exited the room, right, we just exited because she 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:56.200 was whoa We left and that was fine. She was. 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.560 This is when she was still you know Atlantic, right, 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.600 I mean attic can swear questions. Can I ask the 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:08.280 question though? So when you tell a label exact, a 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:16.000 label exactly, thank you, I'm black. Um, when you tell 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:21.279 a label exactly that was scary as fun, right, I'm 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:25.200 telling you this is the best episode ever. When you 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.320 tell them, look, can we can you let us go 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.400 because you know you ain't doing that for us? Okay 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.720 that it was a hostile thing. No, you can't say 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.839 it like that. Wrote the most humbling letter ever. Jimmy 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:46.400 like Jimmy Ivy was crying at the end like that, sir, 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:50.200 you have all these platinum mars, like just at all? Right? 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.560 But why why the need to hang on? Yeah, it's 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.560 a whole egg on the face thing for some people, 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.279 and there's a there's an ego issue with some folks. 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:03.320 But if they so the fear of you having success 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:07.359 on another it would be egg on their face. Yeau. 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:09.960 I couldn't make it work, but they could. Now that 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.120 makes me look like I was I was the failure 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.280 and not the artist. So okay, let me just give 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.799 come and try to cut to the chase. So no, no, no, 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:21.440 it was a long version. So we we leave. This 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.599 meeting was over. Okay, I'm free and clear, and she 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.600 was obviously not gonna give me, you know, the first 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.480 she wasn't gonna try to pick me up herself because 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.280 she was pissed. And uh so we go do our 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.600 little searching. We're talking to Sony, We're talking to Epic, 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.880 We're talking like, you know, a little little bidding war 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.719 going on. I wanted to go with the lecturer, the 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.960 boutique label because they love black women. They had a 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.000 Needa Baker, they had Tracy Chapman, he had Natalie Cole, 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.520 they had they had need to with me. It was 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.720 like I can't think about they had like so many 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.920 It was thick with just big black women, voices class 0:05:51.960 --> 0:06:00.320 now black women he loved. He loved voices. Man. So 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.600 he was like, he was like, you know, he wasn't 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:06.919 offering the most money. I know. This story is about 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:11.560 the go to Rory laughing. Oh stop, okay, see you 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.240 see what you see? What's this story? So so so 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.440 Bob Kress is like dope, and he's like, I've got 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.160 like a nine and a thousand dollar budget, which is great. 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.560 Back in the day, he sent me we had finished 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.120 the album Albums in the Can, sent me to Jamaica 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.440 to do the photo shoot. I'm in the limo on 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.479 the whack on the way back from Jamaica. Get a 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.880 call from Michael Lago, my my A and R at 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.560 the time. First it was Carol Chisman and Michael. He said, 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.960 did you hear what happened? I said no. He said, 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.359 Bob kras now stepping down. And I was like, oh damn, 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.200 because I do you know what? It's cool albums in 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.680 the can you know we we just finished the shoot 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.920 boom And he's like, you know who took his place? 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.480 I'm like, of course, I don't even know. He stepped 0:06:53.480 --> 0:07:09.360 down and he said, he said, Sylvia, run lecture. I 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:16.000 didn't little bit more. You gonna go done. I felt 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.080 like by the time she got there was only left over. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:24.160 So where is that? What was that meaning? Right? So 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.960 then I wrote her a letter that was going something 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:36.560 see ye my brother, get I'm looking to you now. 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:44.800 See I wrote her a nice lettuce in her candle. Girl. 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.840 That was like a girl, Hey, you know this is 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:49.680 times less to like women are like you know, this 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:53.960 is a woman. I tried my best. She would ever 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.720 beat you with her. I tried to y'all listen, yo 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:01.040 said a letter and a candle and and so I 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:02.560 was like, okay, I figured she was just you know, 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.200 I said, I'm I'm glad to see you here. Let's 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:16.360 sit down and let's just you know, wut sister. She 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.720 was like, you come on and let's sit down and talk. 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.320 So I was like, okay, yeah, so go and sit down. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.560 Oh my god. Her eyes were on fire. So there 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:34.959 she was. She was. She let me talk and we 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:36.760 played the music some more because she had already heard 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.599 the album. She's gonna play it for me, so I 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.120 played it. She was milking this ship. Let me tell 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.880 you something. She was milking, you know, her milking it. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.920 Eyes was just like watching me right and while we listening, 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:51.520 I'm trying to just be cool, you know. I'm like, 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.920 you know, I'm trying to be I'm trying to be 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.800 all aesthetic. I was like waving incenses ship that I 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.640 bought the whole shebang with me, and so we listened 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.520 to share. She was like, um, you know, I just 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:09.880 don't think this is for us. I just don't hear 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.000 anything for this isn't really where I want to go 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:16.600 with the label, you know. Oh so she just skotta say, 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.240 you know, by you know, just like, no, this is 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.839 we're not going to do this, And I'm like, but 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.120 if their album is kind of already done, she was like, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.599 h yeah, I'm not going to release it, you know, 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.559 but am I free? Are you gonna let me go? 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:37.240 Or she was like, UM, well, we'll talk about that later, 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.360 but for sure, we're not going to do anything with 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.400 this record. We're not going to be releasing it. She 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.520 said that like twelve times. She loved that so much. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.160 She read it was like it was like it was 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:53.040 like Paul Mooney like get Teeth White. She was like, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.120 we're not going to release your Albom. We're not gonna 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:56.760 release ther Adom. We only one one one. We're not 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.920 going to release your album. The Race album, Paul, one 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:05.120 of my favorite albums of all time. Yo, man, wait 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:09.520 wait wait, ladies and gentlemen, I want to tell you 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:15.240 that when the idea of me having my own podcast 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:20.960 was introduced, this is my dream, like I'm never going 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:26.559 to have this high again. Every story. Yeah, this is 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:35.760 my crackheads. I don't know if you'll get Sylvia. Actually 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:41.560 I actually seen it recently. All these recently she comes 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.800 to her artists still come to the Tonight show and 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:45.240 this is what and I said this to her and 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.800 actually I met this. This is the thing about silvian 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.360 Us and them really because as you said when we 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.720 opened introduction, we all kind of we're a different group 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.560 of kind of individuals groups in the context music against 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.920 you whatever, and the thing on a certain on a 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.640 on a deep level, I think she really really got 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.400 who we were and us really dug the music. However, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.199 when she had to go out into the world of 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:14.640 those R and B promotion departments, they were like, what 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.080 is this ship you we get but they don't get 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.839 seven of those? Or what's this rock? What you know? 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:25.760 So yes, so they would have it means that they 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:31.200 would have to use elbow grease, well, yes, and figure 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:35.959 out the actually to work. Yeah, that's not it. I 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.320 mean the thing literally every time it's funny, I want 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.079 to hear these songs, and they might the little kids 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.840 here that they hear like invoked songs and they sound dope. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.520 Before Ghetto Heaven came out, we heard they showed us. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.320 She said this, we don't have this news. The other 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:51.640 actors come out the same time and she played the 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.520 video and I'm like, oh, who's who's this group? And 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:58.160 then I heard hold on to Your Love and so 0:11:58.280 --> 0:11:59.760 the video I'm like the first time, I was like, 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:07.959 I was like, oh, because I heard that the track 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:13.079 is and they look hot and yeah they put it 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.199 seemed like every time we put out a record in 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.200 Vote came out two weeks before, so Invote came out 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:24.679 right let yes, yeah it came so that came out 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.959 right before ghet O Heaven. So when getting happened we 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.280 had a chance to go number one, it was like 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.080 really where you know, it's kind of like the funking 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.480 the Road where careers divide. But there was a there 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.560 was a song we had out on that album called 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.480 the Samurai Fall that kind of should have been a 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.640 number one kind of r B ballid hit, but it 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.920 came out two weeks after something else they didn't vote 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.240 and put out. It was like, and I think Sandra 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.480 knew somebody at the label when we're going through the 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.280 whole story, but they but as I remember correctly, they 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.200 were like, yeah, you know it was fine. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.560 he would have been fine if he got the record 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.480 to But anyway, it did will in his deal time, 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:11.760 Yeah it did. SiGe Carolina was popping. It probably went 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.559 to number four just like the size of his personality. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.480 You don't know what actually I saw the videos anyway 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:40.480 that's going on the area automatic. I don't know these guys. Yea, 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.439 what is your sign? Because you deal really well with 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:47.080 these two really matter. Yeah no, no, he's always like Okay, 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.839 there didn't go He just slides and like or something. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.320 But still I love that you guys, at least now, 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.880 are really putting up the appearance that you love each other. 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.439 We do do, No, I know you can't think you 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:08.199 can't take this chemistry w so for this particular situation. Like, 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:12.400 I don't believe in a true democrat. I believe in 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.839 the idea of a true democracy. And I've said this 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.480 on many episode before. Yes, like I like to think 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.240 that the eleven of us have say or whatever, Like 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:24.600 what do you think? What do you think? What do 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.640 you think? You know, like everyone from the the leader 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.120 to the minion, the last member of the group to 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:35.400 get at it. But how do you guys decide? Because 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:40.320 the thing is that you you guys are also kind 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:45.200 of a dinosaur in terms of the fact that groups 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:51.160 we're starting to become extinct by the early nineties. But 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.320 you know, so by the time you guys come along, 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.760 there's like maybe nine black bands left on a major 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:01.840 label as opposed to seventy or a hundred and seventy 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:08.200 twenty years ago. So how do you guys make decisions? 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.720 How do you guys establish a song? How do you 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:15.360 guys Like I'm not asking, like who's the alpha? Is 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:20.280 this thirty three and the third equally? Or we trust 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.520 and love each other so much on the and series 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.320 gonna deep level that we each have things that we 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.680 kind of say, kind of kind of kind of takes 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:32.160 the lead on a very organic, organic way. I mean 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.080 the biggest Jeff and I almost kind of like what's 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.880 Elton John? And um we never we never we never 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.160 really had one major fight except who should be except 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.040 Greg Anthony when he was a point guard of the 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.240 next fight. Yeah, because we know he was the greatest 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:53.440 point except for me. I said, great, Anthony is a 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.000 great defensive player, but he can't shoot. But anyway, but 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.360 eventually shot when he got to the grizzly. I had 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.960 a joke bo but I'm not gonna say yeah, I'm 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.240 not gonna say that what I had to do with 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:11.240 the rest, But anyway, um dog, I got a lot 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.320 of favorite references. But I like Greg Anthon, he's a 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:20.120 great guy. But um um it was jokes, jokes, uh no, 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.160 but yeah. But but we respect each other's opinion and 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.120 there's like different areas that each of us kind of 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.640 just like, you know, in my specific situation, I know that, 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.440 and I know that Trek will probably say like, no, 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.600 it's fifty one you and forty nine me. But in 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.440 my eyes, I'm like, well, I'll slave over a song 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.480 all night, and but if he can't write to it, 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.000 then it's not getting on the album. And I know 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.080 the true answer is, well, you guys should be in 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:47.400 the room at the same time. No, no, no, no. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.720 But I kind of like working by myself because I 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.840 had weird hours and I want to get all my 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:59.120 ideas out some therapist becautic things. So is collaboration just 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:05.000 a myth or no, I mean a frustrating compromise. Now 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.520 it's it's harder than it was when we all because 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.600 now he's here. I'm in the Netherlands and he's in California. 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:15.280 Got you moved out to you now live in the 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:21.359 Netherlands now three right, two thousands two. I've known you forever. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.760 I know I mean it's yeah, I've been there. I've 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.240 been there for I come. I've come back and forth 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.080 so much though. That's why that's why your shoes is 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:35.639 so dope. Don't question? Do you? Of course you like 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:41.320 it better? I don't know, like, actually, well, yeah, it's 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:45.920 a better country for health care, better health care, better 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.520 syst No, it's not free, but it's it's good, and 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:53.720 it's reliable and it's you know, it's no bullshit right now. Yeah, 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:59.240 kind of approctimate y'all. So the interview in the Natlands 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:03.679 proctim how long did it take you to nail the language? 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:07.080 Six months? Six months? No, because I mean because of 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:12.360 classical training, you know, I learned, isn't Italian, German, Russian 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:17.760 and French? So languages come easily. I've learned that when 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:22.399 you unlock the sixteenth gene key of your mind of 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.119 the fifty of them, what book did you just read? Right? 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.159 I'm sorry, I live the gene keys every day. So 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.399 it's just that you can. It's teaching you how to 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.720 retain how your subconscious can retain information, but your sub 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:42.000 conscious mind blocks you from from taking it. Like if 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.159 everyone in this woman has the power to play like 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.879 rock montin off right now if they wanted to. But 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:56.920 it's your your faith, and oh I can't learn, no doubt. 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.959 But I'm an American. So even with all of our 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.760 terrible nous and you know, and and madness and crazy, 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:11.879 I miss America. So about I think the well, the 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:17.320 small things a lot, the shared the shared history and 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.400 the things that we can talk about, even like references 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:25.240 of jokes. If if if if I say, if I 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.760 if I reference uh my show, everybody knows I'm talking 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.200 Aboutie Murph fall out AUNTI fall out of step and 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:32.359 I say it over there, they look at me like, 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.040 you know, you know what I mean. So it's like 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.960 you have to like really gotta you gotta talk like 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:46.200 very precise and just direct. They're very blunt and and uh, 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.680 you know, their jokes are not my jokes, and my 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.040 jokes aren't there jokes, and my my history is not 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.680 their history. So even though you run into black people, 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.440 are not saying black people, I don't gonna say, do 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.560 you order your hair products off Amazon? Or I don't 0:19:57.600 --> 0:19:59.160 do no none of the hair shop over there about 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.119 bo So how you can you just care? Please? I 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.560 got order products here. I come here often enough to 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:11.960 take you backs over there. I'd be like, oh yeah, 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:17.600 because hair and you're black hair and you're I'm getting 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:26.240 here though, who never mind, that's that's generally seriously gonna 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.800 beat my next hustle. I'm gonna have. I'm gonna open 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.840 up a hair studio or hairs because they needed that. 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:36.560 You girl needed your girls. My girls. Yeah, they hair. Yeah, 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:39.280 I get all their products and stuff like, yeah they 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:42.360 got they got that, you know that other kind of here. 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:49.320 Oh okay, you just need a little bit of water, 0:20:51.400 --> 0:21:00.480 put a little bit of bright good cooking. All right, 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:05.760 They're good, They're good straight all right, right now, I'm 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:08.920 going wait, we still didn't get to the point of 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.840 the story. What was the storry? What did Jimmy jam 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:19.240 warn you about? Oh? My god, I totally does all 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:23.880 the time. No, he told I remember when I first uh, 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:28.879 when Prince told Warner Brothers that he had heard my 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.240 Sanctuary album, and like, how do you? How do you 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:34.400 think that to this day? Don't know how you, Prince 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:40.680 Jimmy Prince. I was like, how do you? So She's like, 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:42.159 I don't know, But he says he listens to it 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:45.680 every morning and he has to work with you. I 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.200 was like, what, wow, dope. So before I actually met him, 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.359 was I think it was an ASKAP award show or something, 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:54.680 and Jim and Jam and Terry Louise were there, and 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:56.320 I was like, oh my god, you know, guys, guess 0:21:56.359 --> 0:22:09.719 what I'm gay work with Prince Man. They were like, yo, 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:18.760 gets funny episode. It was like watch your bassis, watch 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:22.399 your back, just watch your back. I was like, well, jeez, 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:26.639 that sounds very bitter. Why are they saying that? No? Okay, 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:30.240 but I found out, didn't I found out because you know, 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:32.919 you know, everybody knows was a nice guy with us 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:38.960 when he hung out with us, hanging out nice he 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:43.199 was with us. Prince Prince looked, you know, ship man. 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.480 I did one interview in the BBC and they asked 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.320 me to tell truth and I did and the Prince 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:57.800 his name called me, huh what's his name? Oh? Kirk 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:04.159 Kirk right, that's right right, calling out like that. It 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:08.399 wasn't even Kirk, It was just the legions of the 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:14.080 same for me, right. Yeah. I was like, dude, seriously, 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:19.360 slow your role because first of all, you don't even 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:22.440 know when okay, fuck you? So like, you know, I 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:24.359 told her truth? You believe what you wanta believe, but 0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:29.680 back yeah, so you know, so I'm vaguely aware. So 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:34.560 basically over the soul Sanctuary song that was on Emancipation. 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:39.880 Five songs off that record, he took five, So wait 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.200 what else? There was one that ended up on Shocks 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:45.880 Come to My House album. He gave me your legs. Yeah, 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.359 I'll never open my legs yet. And then his motherfucker 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.040 telling me, He's like, yeah, we're gonna have to change 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.479 the titen on that because that's the one who gave 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:55.680 me credit on. And he was like, well that in 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.399 the Sanctuary. I say, why, I said, because you know, 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.919 a woman shouldn't be saying. I'm like, I said, right, 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:05.639 you wrote head right. But he was a Jehovah's witness 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:08.200 at that point, so he was I was so like, 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:13.679 I was so like that, like fifteen year ago, Prince, 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.159 I want to work Yeah, nineties six to two thousand 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:21.800 four that that that that was that period and I 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.120 was messing with him, and you know, he was all 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:26.800 in that that mode and I was. I remember the 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:30.080 very first time I met him, I came to the studio, 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.520 I had like you, I was just in the still 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:34.920 my crystals, and you know, I said my most and 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:37.440 he must have thought that was some juju. You know, 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:40.920 that was all like against everything the witnesses was about. 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.480 You know, minute, that's the first time you met him. 0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:45.520 What are you talking about? We met him in uh not. 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.119 I mean, I mean as far as to work with, okay, 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.200 but I mean I mean he was a big family 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.280 stand fan. I love you. I'm going to say that 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.240 I too used to laugh at all crystal carrying people. 0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:04.320 But you know I see you right now. Yeah, yeah, 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.840 it's just start using those crystals for theodorant. That's usually 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:11.280 I don't do that. I don't do that. I don't, 0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:16.200 I don't. I don't every using the secret everybody has. 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:21.800 I just don't because I've seen, you know, the term. 0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.240 As as for me and my house, we will serve 0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:28.600 the Lord. It ain't my house no more. You need 0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:29.920 to tell her to get Some times they made like 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:33.280 a charcoal john at it's a little bit stronger. I mean, 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:40.399 I'm using charcoal, twocaste, charcoal soup. Come on, come on, sorry, 0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:43.720 this girl once year she used the pebble. I told you, 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.119 like for the deodorant, the pebble, Yeah, I told her. 0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:54.040