Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Speaker 1: Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
Speaker 1: TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to
Speaker 1: a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Speaker 1: Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Domez.
Speaker 1: I auditioned every rapper from biggiees Balls to Tupac, and
Speaker 1: I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help
Speaker 1: transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Speaker 1: Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons to name a few. I
Speaker 1: also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
Speaker 1: I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
Speaker 1: I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
Speaker 1: acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
Speaker 1: that room.
Speaker 2: Now I know.
Speaker 1: I know actors want to get the job. I get that,
Speaker 1: But being remembered by a casting director that is powerful.
Speaker 3: And now it's time for meditation of the day. Ask
Speaker 3: and it shall be received. Ask and it shall be
Speaker 3: received by God. There's a promise whatever religious belief that
Speaker 3: you have. There's a promise in Christianity Baptist that says
Speaker 3: ask and you shall receive. It doesn't say ask, negotiate,
Speaker 3: ass compromises, says ask, which is your part?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: You ask, I want to travel the world and you
Speaker 3: receive it. In that time space of you asking and
Speaker 3: the receiving, that's when you.
Speaker 2: Got to be patient. You got to take a breath,
Speaker 2: You got to distract yourself, distract yourself by seeing what
Speaker 2: it is that you ask for in present day. Right.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to tell you guys this because I
Speaker 3: believe in my heart this is happening. But for Christmas
Speaker 3: this year, I want to be in San Francisco. I
Speaker 3: feel like I want to be home for Christmas right now,
Speaker 3: cold weather, maybe just the fog, Me and the fog
Speaker 3: and the family. Right December, I'm going to be in
Speaker 3: San Francisco for Christmas.
Speaker 2: I just asked.
Speaker 3: Now I'm going to be patient with the process that's
Speaker 3: going to lead me to receiving, which is being in
Speaker 3: San Francisco for Christmas.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 3: I will ask, I will be patient, I will see
Speaker 3: the signs, I will breathe and trust.
Speaker 2: That I will receive Before we get started.
Speaker 3: I like to remind everyone to go to Krackical Network
Speaker 3: to view seasons one and two of my show Inside
Speaker 3: the black Box that I co host with the great
Speaker 3: Emmio Award winning Joe Morton. Look out for news on
Speaker 3: season three soon. Welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with
Speaker 3: me Tracy Moore, and today I am your guest. I
Speaker 3: want to have.
Speaker 2: A conversation with actors today. I want to.
Speaker 3: Have like a real one on one, honest, brutally honest
Speaker 3: in some cases, conversation with you today. Now, I'm going
Speaker 3: to give some of you who don't know my background,
Speaker 3: the edited version.
Speaker 2: Of my background. But the edited version of my background.
Speaker 2: I started in casting.
Speaker 3: I started out in the mid to late eighties and
Speaker 3: during that time there weren't a lot of African American
Speaker 3: casting directors in New York and Spike Lee definitely had
Speaker 3: the lockdown on my favorite casting directors and friends, Tracy Runsi,
Speaker 3: Tracy Villar, and Wins Sinclay. Now, I just want to
Speaker 3: give you a little bit of my background for those
Speaker 3: of you who don't know.
Speaker 2: I started in his industry as a casting director, and I.
Speaker 3: Didn't know in nineteen eighty six eighty seven what a
Speaker 3: casting director was. There were no books on casting directors, schools, nothing,
Speaker 3: And I used to go to the Drama Bookshop back
Speaker 3: then when it was on Seventh Ave knew between I
Speaker 3: think it was forty eighth and forty nine Street, but
Speaker 3: I used to live there, Oh my god, my favorite place.
Speaker 2: And there were no books there.
Speaker 3: And no one had any information on how to become
Speaker 3: a casting director. So I met these casting directors in
Speaker 3: Brooklyn that were working with Spike Lee. Robbie Reid was
Speaker 3: the casting director at that time and she had working
Speaker 3: with her Tracy Vallar, Tracy Rumsey, and Winsimson Player.
Speaker 2: And I remember one of the things that I learned
Speaker 2: very early.
Speaker 3: In my casting career that no one taught me was
Speaker 3: you know, never like go in somebody else's lane. If
Speaker 3: there's a casting director that works with the specific director,
Speaker 3: you don't want to send your resume, you know, to
Speaker 3: the production manager or the director or the producer, because
Speaker 3: someone's there and you expect them, right. So I was
Speaker 3: very young in my career, but Robbie Reid was at
Speaker 3: forty eight years and a mule with Spike Lee. But
Speaker 3: I would call to ask about like I started out
Speaker 3: as most casting directors as an extras casting director, which
Speaker 3: means that you'd cast all the background in the scenes
Speaker 3: in TV and film.
Speaker 2: Commercials as well. And so.
Speaker 3: Spike had a lot of extras, and specifically in Jungle Fever,
Speaker 3: he had a lot, a lot of extras in this
Speaker 3: one big I think it was.
Speaker 2: A crack house scene.
Speaker 3: And at that time, I would call and ask to
Speaker 3: see if I could subcontract. And what that means is
Speaker 3: that I would see if, like maybe Robbie would hire
Speaker 3: me to bring in like, let's say, fifty actors out
Speaker 3: of three hundred.
Speaker 2: You know, just to start a relationship.
Speaker 3: And if I had to do it for free, I
Speaker 3: would do it for free, but to start the relationship, right,
Speaker 3: So Robbie ended up calling me and asking me to,
Speaker 3: you know, past some backgrounds and some background actors.
Speaker 2: And I was so excited to do that.
Speaker 3: And that's when I worked with casting director Winsome Sinclair.
Speaker 2: And Winsome was.
Speaker 3: So she, oh my god, like very strong, very confident.
Speaker 3: I felt very comfortable knowing that, you know, she knew
Speaker 3: what she was doing. And I learned a lot from
Speaker 3: Winsome and over the years, I started working with Winsome
Speaker 3: becoming friends. You know, we all do panels and film festivals.
Speaker 3: We actually wrote a book with our dear friend, doctor
Speaker 3: Joyce Berkshire, who's also been on the podcast, and it's
Speaker 3: called Women Behind Mic And whenso wrote a chapter, I
Speaker 3: wrote a chapter, and I recently spoke to her. It
Speaker 3: was like March. It was very cold, I remember that,
Speaker 3: and we weren't There was a big event that they
Speaker 3: were happening for the book at the Apollo Theater and
Speaker 3: Whins wasn't coming, and I wasn't going either. So I
Speaker 3: called her up to just let her know I wasn't
Speaker 3: going either because it was cold. And you know, some
Speaker 3: of you know I had this alleged arthritis and sometimes
Speaker 3: it acts up. In that day it was acting up,
Speaker 3: so I knew I wasn't going to get to Harlem.
Speaker 3: I remember the takeaway like when I hung up, was like,
Speaker 3: I just because she lives in Atlanta, I don't like
Speaker 3: the fact that a lot of my friends can unity
Speaker 3: my sisterhood. We're all moving apart away Twinkies in the Carolines.
Speaker 2: So it's like you just when you get that time
Speaker 2: for real, for real, to tell people that you love them.
Speaker 3: And just let them know that, like it's a charge,
Speaker 3: just a life charge.
Speaker 2: And I felt like Whins knew how.
Speaker 3: I felt about her. And oh my god, the other thing.
Speaker 2: She had these great parties, you guys, great parties at
Speaker 2: her house and queens during the summer. Oh it was
Speaker 2: just so much fun. But I am sharing all these
Speaker 2: memories and moments with you because unfortunately we lost Whins
Speaker 2: Sinclair casting.
Speaker 3: Director, producer extraordinaire, giant Empress this week and a lot
Speaker 3: of the I started reflecting. A lot of us all
Speaker 3: came up together at the same time, and a lot
Speaker 3: of people today are standing on our shoulders. And I
Speaker 3: love the fact that whensome myself, Twinkie. We are all
Speaker 3: giver backers, and that means that if someone was interested
Speaker 3: in learning how to cast, we pass on that information.
Speaker 3: I was very blessed to train Twinkie. Twinky has gone
Speaker 3: on to work with others Leslie and Green, so we're
Speaker 3: a community, we are a sister and it is just
Speaker 3: such a very sad time. At the same time, I
Speaker 3: just felt like I want to continue to say her name.
Speaker 3: I want to continue to tell stories because that's what
Speaker 3: keeps giants alive and their spirits.
Speaker 2: A lot.
Speaker 3: Just a beautiful human being, beautiful human being with two sons,
Speaker 3: small sons, and I just want to send out love
Speaker 3: and light and angel angel wings to her family and
Speaker 3: her friends who everyone.
Speaker 2: You know, we're all talking to each other and just
Speaker 2: you know, talking about our moments and sharing our moments
Speaker 2: because it makes your heart feel good, you know, just
Speaker 2: it sues the soul for a man.
Speaker 3: So today's show is dedicated to my friend, my sister
Speaker 3: win some sing player, and I also want to share
Speaker 3: a very special show that we're going to be working
Speaker 3: on for Winson.
Speaker 2: So that's where I started casting.
Speaker 3: And in learning a lot of lessons because no one really,
Speaker 3: you know, taught me all the protocol, all the roots.
Speaker 2: You know, some things you do have to learn on
Speaker 2: your own.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't change anything about that experience or that journey
Speaker 3: because I did. A lot was poured into me, and
Speaker 3: I pour a lot into others as well, so it
Speaker 3: becomes a full circle.
Speaker 2: So I take casting very seriously.
Speaker 3: I am so grateful that I have something inside of
Speaker 3: me that is not challenged when.
Speaker 2: I have to. Well, back in the live time, we're
Speaker 2: not live as much, but when I started casting, we
Speaker 2: were one hundred percent live and then being live. You know,
Speaker 2: it's a different energy. You know, it's a lot of
Speaker 2: movement and things like that.
Speaker 3: I missed live because it's also a direct connection with
Speaker 3: the actors as well and a little more personal.
Speaker 2: Right, But we have to get that from Zoom because
Speaker 2: that's where we are today. So today I wanted to
Speaker 2: have a conversation with.
Speaker 3: You guys, because this business changes all the time. But
Speaker 3: there's a change that's happening that I thought was a
Speaker 3: glitch in the system. And then I started getting other
Speaker 3: submissions like this, and I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whah, whoa.
Speaker 3: I need to speak to you yet.
Speaker 2: Right then I called, I called.
Speaker 3: Twinkie Bird, and I said, twinky Bird, I'm helping out
Speaker 3: a friend of mine, excuse me, actually a friend of ours,
Speaker 3: and I have some spirited actors that are auditioning and submitting,
Speaker 3: and have you come across this issue?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And the issue that I was speaking to her about
Speaker 3: was the fact that actors. Someone has said something has
Speaker 3: happened on TikTok online.
Speaker 2: Ig. I don't know what has happened, but something is
Speaker 2: happening where actors are submitting without a reader. I want
Speaker 2: to say that again, because I want to be very clear.
Speaker 3: Actors are submitting auditions without a reader.
Speaker 2: So what does that look like for a casting director?
Speaker 3: Okay, it looks like you are looking into the camera
Speaker 3: reacting from Oh, this is what I was going to
Speaker 3: tell you. I apologize. I want to come back to this.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, I'm very grateful.
Speaker 2: For the fact that something is instilled in me where
Speaker 2: I can watch auditions the same lines over and over
Speaker 2: and over and over again. I don't get bored, I
Speaker 2: don't get frustrated or challenge.
Speaker 3: I just remember from day one of casting that I
Speaker 3: said to myself, the next one, the next one.
Speaker 2: So I'm always looking for the next one to come
Speaker 2: into that room and live and blow me away. And
Speaker 2: now on zoom blow me away.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I just wanted to say that, all right,
Speaker 3: So I'm going back to the zoom. So what we
Speaker 3: see as a casting directors, we see you reacting and
Speaker 3: even though I know the lines, I'm still expecting to
Speaker 3: hear them so that I can see your reaction. Because
Speaker 3: your reaction is so on it's not authentic to me
Speaker 3: because no one's talking. Like absolutely, I saw seven tapes
Speaker 3: nobody was.
Speaker 2: Talking the actors were sitting in a chair and just
Speaker 2: reacting and listening.
Speaker 3: I don't even know how to describe to you, guys
Speaker 3: what that looked like, but it was absolutely positively no, No,
Speaker 3: don't ever do that.
Speaker 2: Don't ever not not have a reader. It makes no sense.
Speaker 3: And you are actually not giving me anything of what
Speaker 3: I need, right, So as a casting director, I need
Speaker 3: to see some sort of and it's zoom. We have
Speaker 3: verbal right, because it's not like we do a wide
Speaker 3: shot and catch the two of you in the scene.
Speaker 2: It's just you isolate. Right. So I'm listening to the lines.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing you react authentically to what is being said
Speaker 3: to you. I'm seeing versatility. This is what I want
Speaker 3: to see. But this is what i'm seeing, right, I'm
Speaker 3: not seeing that when you don't have a reader. I'm
Speaker 3: seeing you in your head thinking about the lines, when
Speaker 3: to react. It's a lot, it's too much. It's very distracting. Please, actors, do.
Speaker 2: Me a favor. There may be some short cuts.
Speaker 3: There may be, but I'm really imploring you to not
Speaker 3: take them. It's not helping your auditions. And I'm going
Speaker 3: to be so.
Speaker 2: Honest with you guys, because this just happened this week
Speaker 2: when actors. When I got the clue that actors were
Speaker 2: doing their auditions without a reader, I probably gave them
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty seconds right when all they did not
Speaker 2: have a reader. My attention was so distracted. It was
Speaker 2: I am in your head, I hear your thoughts, I
Speaker 2: see your actions, and you are not giving me the character.
Speaker 2: And you're also giving me characters.
Speaker 3: Because now you're now you have to know or at
Speaker 3: least kind of know the reader's lines so that.
Speaker 2: You can react from it. It's so annoying. This has
Speaker 2: got to stop. This has got to.
Speaker 3: Stop you guys, this is this is not good. You
Speaker 3: must you must have a reader when you audition unless
Speaker 3: and I've never seen this, but unless a casting director
Speaker 3: puts in breakdown.
Speaker 2: Do not have a reader. You have to have a reader.
Speaker 2: I cannot emphasize this enough. You. Your audition is about you.
Speaker 2: It's about you. As a casting.
Speaker 3: Director, I am being paid a salary to at first,
Speaker 3: in the beginning, do a pre screening of the talent
Speaker 3: that I would recommend to the director and the producers
Speaker 3: I think are the top choices in what the director
Speaker 3: is looking for.
Speaker 2: Right in zoom we go through a lot of tape.
Speaker 2: You guys a lot, a lot, a lot of teams.
Speaker 2: I just have to call out so many things because
Speaker 2: it wasn't like this audition was in the breakdown service
Speaker 2: like we ELSA and I know enough actors that you know. Literally,
Speaker 2: I have a rolodex in my fourth rent of my
Speaker 2: brain of actors and pictures and resumes are constantly flowing
Speaker 2: through them, so we know actors. That's not the issue.
Speaker 3: My challenge in the last couple of days and looking
Speaker 3: at tapes has been one when you say you're an actor,
Speaker 3: you want to be an actor, you're training to be
Speaker 3: an actor. My expectations are that you are also inclusive
Speaker 3: of what means to be a trained, working actor. You're
Speaker 3: also handling your business. I saw a tape today. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be honest. I'm to be honest because I'm telling
Speaker 3: you all the truth. I saw a tape this morning.
Speaker 3: This actor was sitting in it looked.
Speaker 2: Like an antique chair, like a mahogany chair. Pulled the
Speaker 2: chair up.
Speaker 3: He was in front of the dresser that had a mirror,
Speaker 3: and then in the back it looked like it was
Speaker 3: like a blue couch situation and blankets and pillows, and
Speaker 3: then there was an end table.
Speaker 2: That had some stuff on it in paper. You guys, seriously,
Speaker 2: do not waste casting director's time.
Speaker 3: What job have you ever in your life applied for
Speaker 3: that you did not have the information about the corporation?
Speaker 2: You didn't have information about the job titled.
Speaker 3: The role, the protocol you went to school for it.
Speaker 3: It's something about acting that people just like, I just know,
Speaker 3: I don't need to take the glass.
Speaker 2: I don't need to know the protocol. I don't need
Speaker 2: to know.
Speaker 3: Tools, things that I need to bring along to the party.
Speaker 3: Nothing acting, I just know. Well, you do any need
Speaker 3: to trip, any need to know? You need to invest
Speaker 3: in a blue gray green screen so that I don't
Speaker 3: see everything in your back ring. You need to make
Speaker 3: sure your sound. The worst thing is the sound. You
Speaker 3: need to make sure your sound is gray. And most auditions,
Speaker 3: I would say ninety nine percent of auditions you're standing.
Speaker 3: You're standing, So unless it's specifically.
Speaker 2: Asked for, you are standing, and you don't You don't
Speaker 2: need a table in front of you or a desk.
Speaker 3: Or anything like that. Okay, these are all in the
Speaker 3: last couple of days. These are videos that I have
Speaker 3: seen from actors, and my expectation is so hot because
Speaker 3: I do teach and I train, and this is the
Speaker 3: other thing to you guys, you have to work on this.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you. I can't stress it enough. You
Speaker 2: have to work on your comprehension.
Speaker 3: You have to work on the ability to read sides
Speaker 3: pages of a script, sides, not slides.
Speaker 2: As an actress told me yesterday, read the sides. Okay.
Speaker 3: After you read the sides, you have to be able
Speaker 3: to comprehend, to understand what you read, so you could
Speaker 3: have a conversation with yourself or someone else to just
Speaker 3: get all this stuff out right. You're purging, right, You're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: So I see she's not happy in her man marriage,
Speaker 3: and she's frustrated because she thinks her husband's having an affair.
Speaker 3: But he's not having an affair because in the scene
Speaker 3: here before my scene that was sharpeyed out, I looked
Speaker 3: under the sharpie and read everything and saw he was
Speaker 3: talking to his friends saying, she's.
Speaker 2: Accused of me of having an affair, and I'm not
Speaker 2: having an affair.
Speaker 3: So you start talking stuff through reading everything inclusive of
Speaker 3: the action. This is another thing too, someone's out here saying.
Speaker 2: Don't read the action, just read the dialogue. That's wrong,
Speaker 2: that's absolutely wrong.
Speaker 3: That's wrong because action can give you insight into how
Speaker 3: to deliver a line, because they may say the reaction
Speaker 3: she fell to the foe and sobbed.
Speaker 2: Okay, well you have to say that line in a
Speaker 2: way that she's going to fall to the floor and sob.
Speaker 3: But you have to read the action. There are no
Speaker 3: short cuts. You will be shortchanged. Do the work. What
Speaker 3: job do you go to? And you know nothing?
Speaker 2: But you cool? You cool.
Speaker 3: You will always have a level of nervousness. Always that
Speaker 3: you want to be able to control the nervousness.
Speaker 2: Talk to the nervousness, Tell the nervousness.
Speaker 3: To chill for a second. Come along, nervousness. It's always
Speaker 3: going to be there. But when you are secure in
Speaker 3: what you know, don't matter. When you know that you
Speaker 3: know that, you know that, you know that, you know
Speaker 3: you know, there's a there's a confidence, there's a swag
Speaker 3: that goes with that.
Speaker 2: Know what you know. Train you're not able to train.
Speaker 2: Get a book. Read a book.
Speaker 3: That's a part of the comprehension too. Get books on acting.
Speaker 3: Read and then comprehend. Talk to yourself, Talk to you
Speaker 3: fellow Thespians, about this great book I read about acting.
Speaker 3: It talked about this and this and substitution and all
Speaker 3: of these things.
Speaker 2: One of them.
Speaker 3: You can read my book Spirited Actor Principles for a
Speaker 3: Successful Audition.
Speaker 2: By treating more.
Speaker 3: On Amazon and authorss dot com, you can do something,
Speaker 3: and especially in twenty twenty four online TikTok YouTube.
Speaker 2: Do your due diligence on who you're training with. You
Speaker 2: have to.
Speaker 3: You want to work with someone who is current, who
Speaker 3: is relevant, who knows all the changes and the movement
Speaker 3: in this industry.
Speaker 2: You know there are a lot of people at different.
Speaker 3: Schools that have not worked in years and their teaching
Speaker 3: and it's great as long as you stay current and
Speaker 3: relevant to We're not doing live auditions anymore now we
Speaker 3: transition to zoom.
Speaker 2: All of those things. Do your due diligence.
Speaker 3: On the people that you work with, because this is
Speaker 3: the other thing too. When I started The Spirited Actor,
Speaker 3: and I didn't have a title for my company, my classes,
Speaker 3: and I was just trying to figure out something that
Speaker 3: felt warm and because cozy and fuzzy and also made
Speaker 3: you feel good about yourself, yourself, like you, not the
Speaker 3: character you right, And what the spirited actor represented to
Speaker 3: me was so many things. The patient actor, the challenge actor,
Speaker 3: the parent actor, the competent actor, all of those things,
Speaker 3: and all of those things. I've mixed it up and
Speaker 3: it felt like the spirited actor. The spirited actor embodies
Speaker 3: all of these things. That's what the spirited actor is.
Speaker 3: And so in making you feel good, you want to
Speaker 3: make sure that the people that.
Speaker 2: Lay their hands on you.
Speaker 3: And their knowledge are really doing you right and are
Speaker 3: really making you feel good about that choice that you
Speaker 3: made in because you've.
Speaker 2: Got to be vulnerable, like you know training. I can't
Speaker 2: believe that twenty eight minutes just ran by.
Speaker 3: I was getting ready to look at my notes and say,
Speaker 3: I pray I have something else, and Andy are you know?
Speaker 3: Andy are engineer extraordinary? Just alerted me that now I
Speaker 3: probably have three minutes. So I'm going to just summon
Speaker 3: like this man because I'm being so honest with you
Speaker 3: guys today, please get a reader.
Speaker 2: If you are talking to your.
Speaker 3: Fellow thestane and they say you know you don't need
Speaker 3: a reader, tell them. Tracy Moore said, yeah you do,
Speaker 3: Yeah you do. And until somebody. I don't know, I'll
Speaker 3: always use the reader.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't get it. It makes no.
Speaker 3: Casting director, entertainment business sense to me.
Speaker 4: Period.
Speaker 3: All right, So you must have a reader, you must
Speaker 3: have the right equipment, and you must must must must train.
Speaker 3: What job do you go to and you know nothing
Speaker 3: about the job or your role?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: Elsa Lathan just came on. That means that we have
Speaker 2: some questions from some actors. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hey, Also, thank you for those teams today, Tracy. Those
Speaker 4: are so important, so important. So today we have two
Speaker 4: actors on with questions. We have miss Taekwanda Johnson. Welcome, Taekwanda,
Speaker 4: if you can come on camera. Hey, hey, we hen me.
Speaker 4: And we have mister key On Williams. Welcome back. Keon.
Speaker 4: How are you.
Speaker 2: Hey, key On?
Speaker 4: Hey, Yeah, you can help me. Okay, So your questions
Speaker 4: up first, Taekwonda, what's your question?
Speaker 5: Your first?
Speaker 6: The question I have is.
Speaker 7: I remember you saying and I'm probably giving order to you,
Speaker 7: so tell me if I'm talking too much because I
Speaker 7: have a tendency do that.
Speaker 6: You said something about.
Speaker 7: Reading every every day fifteen minutes. And also I think
Speaker 7: you said talking in the mirror being a wirro and
Speaker 7: talking in the mirror. And my question is what advice
Speaker 7: do you give us actors who struggle with who struggle
Speaker 7: with some type of learning this, Like for me, I'm
Speaker 7: dyslexic and so reading can be an issue for me
Speaker 7: sometimes and so I try my One of the biggest
Speaker 7: struggles of me doing self tapes is I will do
Speaker 7: five million takes just because I want to make sure that,
Speaker 7: like the pacing is where it needs to be. So, like,
Speaker 7: what is your advice for like us who struggle with
Speaker 7: like reading and you know.
Speaker 3: So the first thing I want to do is take
Speaker 3: struggle out of her vocabulary because it you're going to
Speaker 3: keep creating that. I want to give you something else, right,
Speaker 3: So the first thing I want you to know is
Speaker 3: that there are a lot and when I say a
Speaker 3: lot of actors who have that condition or you know issue,
Speaker 3: it's I know someone who their eyesight is really super
Speaker 3: bad that they have to read with a microscope. I
Speaker 3: mean magnif.
Speaker 2: Idea of the hand, Yes, magnifying glass. I'm drinking.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not right, Okay, a magnifying glass. And
Speaker 3: you know, so I'm saying, like I know a lot
Speaker 3: of things that actors have, but I know that it's
Speaker 3: also possible because they're working actors and nobody knows.
Speaker 2: So I'm not educated in that aspect.
Speaker 3: So there has to be something that can be done
Speaker 3: because it has been done and.
Speaker 2: It can and used to be done.
Speaker 3: And then I also I know as a casting director
Speaker 3: back in the day live auditions things like that that
Speaker 3: an agent would ask for additional time and they never
Speaker 3: had to tell us why, but I would always grant them.
Speaker 3: So you can take a little more time, right, And
Speaker 3: of course when you have a conversation with an agent,
Speaker 3: you want to say.
Speaker 2: That so that that's always known.
Speaker 3: And the other thing is don't take more takes than
Speaker 3: you would have when if you were in a live room.
Speaker 3: So you really shouldn't take more than three takes. And
Speaker 3: you're not the judge. It doesn't matter what you think
Speaker 3: unless you're the executive producer director, So you have to
Speaker 3: think from a perspective. Am I doing my best as
Speaker 3: opposed to what it is that we want? You're never
Speaker 3: we don't even as casting directors, we don't even.
Speaker 2: Know because some directors don't articulate. Will Does that help? Absolutely? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 4: Thank you, awesome, thank you, thank you. What's your question, sir?
Speaker 8: My question, Hey, how's it going? So my question is,
Speaker 8: you know, my history is more so on the voiceover
Speaker 8: side of things, So you know, play, I do animation,
Speaker 8: I do voiceovers, things of that nature. If for somebody
Speaker 8: that's a voice actor that's looking to transition into, you know,
Speaker 8: doing more on camera work besides taking classes and practicing
Speaker 8: and homing on the craft, what's one thing that you
Speaker 8: would suggest, because I think sometimes we get stuck in
Speaker 8: like that whole voice, that big voice world.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what's one? Have you seen that in the past?
Speaker 8: And if so, what's what's one that you would give
Speaker 8: to a voice actor such as myself?
Speaker 2: Well, what I want to say first is that you
Speaker 2: have to you have the power through your voice to
Speaker 2: convince people to buy, sell, go back to school with
Speaker 2: your voice. Right.
Speaker 3: So it's just like models. Models have no words but
Speaker 3: their reactions. I got to get that, Ralph lawrenceher right.
Speaker 3: So I'm saying that you have a tremendous power that
Speaker 3: hasn't been seen yet in front of the camera. So
Speaker 3: my suggestion to you would be to play in student
Speaker 3: film area, specifically NYU Columbia because they have budgets, and
Speaker 3: not so much budgets to pay.
Speaker 2: You, but budgets for a great equipment. And they it's
Speaker 2: a small it's a very small intimate set, which will
Speaker 2: give you a nice transition into the bigger sets because.
Speaker 3: The only thing that changes is the show, not the protocol.
Speaker 3: So you'll have all that and then you'll be able
Speaker 3: to because and then also are you on Actors' Access?
Speaker 5: I am yes, good, So keep.
Speaker 3: Looking at those breakdowns. And who are you signed to
Speaker 3: for voiceover right?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 5: I'm with DPN Talent.
Speaker 2: Do they have a legit section?
Speaker 5: They do? Yeah?
Speaker 2: TV and film? Ye?
Speaker 3: Okay, So I like, I know a lot of people
Speaker 3: who have agents with innovative artists John Buckwall voiceover Right.
Speaker 2: And so because you have such a great.
Speaker 3: Record and relationship with them, you just ask them if
Speaker 3: they would be willing to walk you over to the
Speaker 3: legit and they would do that.
Speaker 2: They believe in you. You're doing this.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, DPN doesn't I don't think we do. I
Speaker 8: don't think we do. I just signed on with them.
Speaker 8: I was with Ky Marble okay.
Speaker 3: Okay, So then it's about working on getting a legit
Speaker 3: agent but you know, just for you to get some
Speaker 3: you know, to really see the protocol established right on
Speaker 3: and and and NYU sets.
Speaker 2: And you know Columbia, you know, I mean you've got
Speaker 2: the Martin scarseses inspite donating, you know, and they get
Speaker 2: equipment on Friday.
Speaker 3: They don't have to be back till Monday. So it's
Speaker 3: not like a real shoot and run thing. I used
Speaker 3: to cast for m YU and Columbia students because they
Speaker 3: really teach.
Speaker 2: Not I not negating any other schools, this is my experience,
Speaker 2: but they really teach the real protocol of the set.
Speaker 2: They really instill that in those those kids. So you know,
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, all they need is money, and you
Speaker 2: know they get that's why they do shoot features and
Speaker 2: stuff and get acknowledge over there. So but yeah, that's
Speaker 2: that would be my thought.
Speaker 3: But sit in your power too, Keon, because the fact again,
Speaker 3: welcome back to the Spirited Action Podcast with me Tracy Moore,
Speaker 3: And here we go. We are at class in session.
Speaker 3: So we have co executive producer Elsa Lathan coming on
Speaker 3: to tell us what's going on.
Speaker 4: Hey, Hello, how are you? I'm good man, good good,
Speaker 4: good good. So today's class in session. We have back
Speaker 4: Miss Taekwonda Johnson. Welcome back to Taekwonda. Hello Rie, and
Speaker 4: we have that mister Keon Williams, Welcome back Keona. So
Speaker 4: today's scene is trying to keep a secret. Written by
Speaker 4: Randall Holloway. Interior Kevin Bedroom Evening Located in the middle
Speaker 4: of a dense forest. Tate and Harry enter a dimly
Speaker 4: lit room, exhausted from their last group session.
Speaker 5: Man, I really love the tranquility here.
Speaker 6: It's nice, but you don't send something off about this place.
Speaker 5: What do you mean?
Speaker 7: Everyone here seems strange, all the paintings and the artwork, and.
Speaker 6: What kind of place is this?
Speaker 7: I know you said you wanted to come here for therapy,
Speaker 7: but something doesn't feel right.
Speaker 8: Hey, for once, just trust the process. You always struggle
Speaker 8: with accepting things when they don't go according to your expectations.
Speaker 2: Excuse me.
Speaker 8: This retreat is beneficial for us. We've reached a point
Speaker 8: where we can openly discuss our problems.
Speaker 6: I didn't want I want to come to the middle
Speaker 6: of nowhere to discuss our marital issues in front of strangers.
Speaker 8: Listen, everyone is here to learn from each other so
Speaker 8: we can all heal.
Speaker 5: And honestly, just move forward.
Speaker 6: I don't want to do this. You made the decision
Speaker 6: to have an affair with your coworker.
Speaker 5: Hey, why haven't you had sex with me in almost
Speaker 5: a year.
Speaker 6: I don't want to do this.
Speaker 8: Whenever I try to make love to you, you just
Speaker 8: back away like I'm not here, like I'm invisible or something.
Speaker 6: I just want to go home to our kid. It's
Speaker 6: that too much to ask for.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 8: Honestly, I was lonely. I didn't want it to happen.
Speaker 8: What it did, It just happened. It's just so fast.
Speaker 6: I don't feel connected to you anymore.
Speaker 4: Kate walks past Harry and begins to open the closet,
Speaker 4: which reveals a wedding ring on a chair with a
Speaker 4: handwritten note next to it.
Speaker 6: Did you write this?
Speaker 2: Harry?
Speaker 4: Harry snatches the note, reading it aloud.
Speaker 5: To death to death door's part.
Speaker 2: Did you write that?
Speaker 6: I told you something is seriously wrong. We need to leave.
Speaker 4: A loud thud resonates from the back of the closet,
Speaker 4: causing Kate and Harry to jump in fright, what was that?
Speaker 6: Did you hear that?
Speaker 4: Kate rushes towards the door and tries to open it,
Speaker 4: but it's locked.
Speaker 6: It's locked, Harry, the door is locked. We're trapped.
Speaker 4: Suddenly, the room plunges into darkness and Kate screams.
Speaker 6: Harry, where are you?
Speaker 5: I'm right here, Kate, full my boss, brab my hand.
Speaker 6: I am grabbing your hand.
Speaker 5: No, you're not.
Speaker 2: Scene you Wow, bravo. Okay, so let me start first
Speaker 2: by saying, excellent cold read, because I know that this
Speaker 2: was cold and you guys did a really super great job,
Speaker 2: which tells you that you're doing the work outside.
Speaker 3: Now Taekwonda, I definitely recommend fifteen minutes, but my expectations
Speaker 3: are more per day, like a couple hours.
Speaker 2: But fifteen minutes is a good start for actors. Read
Speaker 2: aloud every single day, pick up anything beautiful.
Speaker 3: The other thing was, I really believe you're relationship.
Speaker 2: I really believed your marriage.
Speaker 3: And when you said to your husband that he decided
Speaker 3: to have an affair with this woman in the office
Speaker 3: like Keon, I was so mad at him. I was
Speaker 3: so mad at him because I understood why you're mad
Speaker 3: at him, because he doesn't take accountability in the dialogue.
Speaker 2: Like you have me a year.
Speaker 3: Women and men sleeping together two totally different psychological situations,
Speaker 3: so I understand.
Speaker 2: Why she is in sleep with you for a year,
Speaker 2: which means y'all need to give some help.
Speaker 3: Which is great because that's the problem y'all are young.
Speaker 3: So but he doesn't take accountability. He's not connecting the dots,
Speaker 3: like I'm not sleeping with you because I'm still hurting
Speaker 3: for the fact that you slept with someone.
Speaker 2: Else outside of our marriage. So that felt so real
Speaker 2: to me. And then just in the escalation, because we
Speaker 2: do have expectations in an audition tape, but you know,
Speaker 2: incorporating the action. When you read the sides the first
Speaker 2: time and you read everything, you know what's gonna happen, right,
Speaker 2: So like if it says, you know, the husband grabs
Speaker 2: her by the shoulder and shakes her, you know, until
Speaker 2: she vibrates or whatever, then you're not gonna wait for
Speaker 2: that opportunity to happen, and then you're gonna bring it
Speaker 2: into the line. You know you're gonna have a reaction.
Speaker 2: So just make that include the environment more, know your environment, more,
Speaker 2: know these pizzy out physical things that are getting ready
Speaker 2: to happen, so that it doesn't look contrived when they happen.
Speaker 2: He slaps her, I told you to stop talking to
Speaker 2: me like that. You talked about about mother.
Speaker 3: Like it's it's flawless fluid. But other than that, I
Speaker 3: thought you guys did a great chat, really great child.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, beautiful maybe proud that you guys.
Speaker 2: Read so well. I was like, they're doing it. See
Speaker 2: it works. Okay, all right, well we come back. Thank
Speaker 2: you Elsa for the great actors too. That's great.
Speaker 4: Absolutely welcome breach out Randall.
Speaker 2: Great scene he wrote me in the Spirited Act of Class.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. So when we come back with
Speaker 2: the Spirited Active Podcast with me Tracy Moore, I am
Speaker 2: going to sincerely give you love. That's timing, Jim, give
Speaker 2: us your love. Welcome to Kudos Corner. Kudos Corner is
Speaker 2: where we celebrate actors, we support them, and we just
Speaker 2: love on them. This week's Kudos Corner puts the spotlight
Speaker 2: on spirited actor Sean. Sean has co starred in The Equalizer,
Speaker 2: Bronx SIU, and To Live and Die in Bedstide. He
Speaker 2: has also starred in the Place, The Inconvenient Conversation, Checklist
Speaker 2: and Sometimes It's Those in April. Most recently, he filmed
Speaker 2: a role in Brainfest, a new project starring Darren Dewick Henson.
Speaker 2: Kudos to Sean Ment and now it's time to give love.
Speaker 3: Not everything is a shortcut, like it literally takes ten
Speaker 3: months for a child to be born, not mine. Things
Speaker 3: take a time. Things need to grow and mature. It
Speaker 3: doesn't happen when you want it to happen. But I
Speaker 3: tell you, when it does happen, it's always the perfect
Speaker 3: time for it to happen.
Speaker 2: You have to be patient. Understand that. Okay, if it's
Speaker 2: not happening today, it's going to happen. Don't think that
Speaker 2: it's not not going to happen. Why would you think
Speaker 2: that you can ask for anything and in that asking,
Speaker 2: after you ask for whatever it is that you want,
Speaker 2: give it that time from the asking to the receiving
Speaker 2: and trusting the process and believing that you have and
Speaker 2: seeing yourself with it.
Speaker 3: Seeing yourself travel the world. But actors, there are no shortcuts.
Speaker 3: Do the work, do the training.
Speaker 2: Don't make decisions about this business without consulting experts and
Speaker 2: professionals who work in this business.
Speaker 3: There are no shortcuts. You will be shortchanged. Do the
Speaker 3: work and trust the process.
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