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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast will be prepared for invasion.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's the Around the NFL Podcast Now. I'm Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal alongside a couple of heroes, Chris Wesley and Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know where is our normal host? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right, Dan Hansis. He can't be with us today.

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Speaker 1: We had our halftime review. If you happen to listen

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Speaker 1: to wednesday show, that was on Wednesday, So you know

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Speaker 1: Dan's taking some time away right now. What happened in

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Speaker 1: this halftime review We're not supposed to talk about a

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Speaker 1: company policy. All everything that goes on in that room

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Speaker 1: is confidential, and my review got delayed. This means that

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Speaker 1: you guys could be without me on Sunday mine when

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Speaker 1: fund This is what you dropped a disturbing footnote right

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Speaker 1: here at the top of the show. Well, it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be a surprise. You haven't seen Dan all day. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. We got a lot to get to. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to us, thank you very much for

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Speaker 1: downloading and putting comments on iTunes, and hopefully you guys

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Speaker 1: have been watching us a little bit on NFL now,

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Speaker 1: and I guess without any uh hold on Greg before

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Speaker 1: we dive into the games. Now, Chris, I know you're

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Speaker 1: paired with Greg tonight on what I like to call

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Speaker 1: the the B team to cover Thursday night football, the Bills,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Let's get to you guys to get your

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Speaker 1: comments on that. Thank you, Mark the eight teams here,

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Speaker 1: forget the B team. We're the best crew going because

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Speaker 1: we get into these Thursday night games even when they're

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Speaker 1: not so great. In this game, the Bills and the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins was looking at least compelling for about three quarters

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Speaker 1: before the Dolphins pulled away in the fourth quarter. They

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Speaker 1: wind up winning twenty two to nine. They're six and four.

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Speaker 1: Bills are five and five, looking like they have a

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Speaker 1: pretty impossible path to the playoffs. At this point, Bills

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Speaker 1: they got a couple of weeks before they get there, though.

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Speaker 1: and at least he stay relevant and you can get

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Speaker 1: the seven and five. But it's hard to see right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle Orton is better than n J Manual was,

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Speaker 1: But he's still Kyle Orton, and we talked about it

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Speaker 1: last week, and I don't I think he had another

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Speaker 1: very poor game here tonight against Miami. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: my main takeaway from both teams tonight is that the

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Speaker 1: Bills have two backup quarterbacks, no starting quarterback, and no

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Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen first round draft pick, so they're

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Speaker 1: stuck with Kyle Orton. N J Manual was their quarterback. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we knew that they're five and five, and they're

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Speaker 1: actually a little better than I expected. Orton's on balance

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Speaker 1: Like what more could he ask for? I think them

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Speaker 1: going eight and eight this year is a win. I

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Speaker 1: assume it's a win enough for Doug Moron to keep

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Speaker 1: his job. But the Bill's defensive line tonight was neutralized.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Miami got the ball out of Ryan Tannehill's

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Speaker 1: another difference to this game turned on Dan Carpenter's missfield

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Speaker 1: goal and then two very questionable calls by the referee.

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Speaker 1: Look at West as a homer now because he had

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Speaker 1: of the worst calls I've ever seen it. It fails

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Speaker 1: any common sense rule and the past interference. You heard

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Speaker 1: Dion Sanders after the game called it horrendous. That's true.

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Speaker 1: There were a couple of questionable calls. The safety that

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Speaker 1: It gave the Dolphins a twelve nine lead late in

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Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon, who played really well in the second half

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Speaker 1: at the Sammy Watkins, who then ran one way on

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Speaker 1: Tannehill was good. He wasn't great. It was kind of

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Speaker 1: the games. Let's start with Philadelphia and Green Bay. And

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Speaker 1: for the top three games of the week in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: for between the Packers and the Eagles? Well, I'm still

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Speaker 1: not every quarterback. Maybe Eli Manning wouldn't be good in

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Speaker 1: And I think the Packers have gotten better each and

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Speaker 1: Matthews aid inside linebacker experiment couldn't have gone any better.

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Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez said this week that ha ha, Clinton Dix

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Speaker 1: England and Indie and Applis. They faced a couple of

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Speaker 1: I picked the Lions to win because of the quarterback change.

428
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: I don't think Arians will change his offense. I think

429
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: he'll continue to attack down the field. When I see

430
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: Stanton play what I see as a guy who doesn't

431
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: move the chains. You're gonna have big plays, but they're

432
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to have a ball control offense

433
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: in anyway. It's complete percentage just not been good this

434
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,719
Speaker 1: season at all. Even with Palmer there, they were kind

435
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 1: of an erratic big plays and then a lot of

436
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 1: three and outs or six and outs. I think the

437
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: only way the Cardinals win this game. And I chose

438
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: the Lions along with west Mark. You chose the Arizona Cardinals.

439
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: Sorry for both of you. Sorry Dan did as well.

440
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick chose his Lions. No surprise there. I think

441
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 1: the way if the Cardinals can win this game, they

442
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: win it just by blitzing like crazy. Todd Bowls the

443
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: number one blitz team in the league. Stafford. When when

444
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: Miami blitz them in the second half and the second quarter,

445
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: they didn't do anything. Last week for about two and

446
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: a half quarters, Stafford really struggled with Blitz. That's their

447
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: ticket to win, But I don't think it's gonna have

448
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: a fund up. All right, Let's move on to the

449
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: rest of the games. And this is time of the

450
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Speaker 1: week where we single out the men who chose to

451
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: be men this week and go out on a little

452
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: bit of a limb, not play it safe like Sessler

453
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 1: does every week. By the way, have the second most

454
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Speaker 1: hero picks in the group, So how about Pipe. Yeah,

455
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: I had to I had to do because your facts.

456
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: You're the only one in this group right now without

457
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 1: a hero pick, or at least a potential for a

458
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 1: hero pick this week. And let's start with Chris Wesley.

459
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: Oh just to friend your hero. Did I like his mood?

460
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about this segment after your introduction.

461
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about Chris Wesley's ridiculous pick of

462
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, because I wish we could go back and

463
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: call up the tape of Chris Wesley calling the Tampa

464
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers the worst team in the NFL week after week,

465
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: including last week. I believe Chris Wesseling defend your hero well,

466
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: I have more confidence in Josh McCown than I do

467
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: and Robert Griffin right now, I think he's the better

468
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: quarterback in two thousand sad and depressing statement. I thought

469
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: it was funny that one of the Buccaneers it's just

470
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: depressing to hear that, and I'm like, it's it's your

471
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: defense has been hijacked by the host here. I thought

472
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: it was funny. On Twitter today, one of the Buccaneers

473
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: sites tweeted that the Bucks are very wary of Robert

474
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: Griffin because he is the first duel threat quarterback they've

475
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: played all year. I thought that was precious the Bucks

476
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: that they still consider him a dual threat when he

477
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: clearly can't run that fast anymore. You sit down in

478
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: the news room today, you thought he ran a four

479
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: nine forty At this point, that's a little much. He's

480
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: not dynamic in any way anymore. I kind of I

481
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: disagree to the point that he didn't play poorly in

482
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 1: his first game back. He had to. Is he beating

483
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: linebackers to the to the corner anymore? When he I

484
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: agree with you on that he not showing his the

485
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: same speed that he used to. But do you disagree

486
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: that he played pretty well against the Vikings. He had

487
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: two really bad throws and they became in big spots,

488
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: but he wasn't terrible. I think that's how low the

489
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: bar is now. Did he played a mediocre game and

490
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: people thought he played very well. I thought I thought

491
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: McCown played better last week than r G three did

492
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: against the Vikings. Well, McCown was. Some of the stuff

493
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: we didn't like about Glennon was he'll get hot for

494
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: a couple of throws. You know, he played. He played

495
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: well in the second half against Cleveland for much of it,

496
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: but then he'll do some inexplicable stuff. For the most

497
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: part McCown last week, that was all removed. He he

498
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: also down the stretch, A lot of quarterbacks wouldn't have

499
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: finished that game. He played an incredible, credible pain. I

500
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: think they've got a veteran that can give you some

501
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: consistency down the stretch. But these are two totally lost teams.

502
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: Gruden today basically said they are because Gruden said every

503
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: so much needs to change about the team that he's

504
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: coaching right now. And I really think you're right about

505
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: r G three and one their area too, that the

506
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: energy around that quarterback might be his bad it's not

507
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: his fault necessarily to we to what degree, we don't know,

508
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: but I can't think of a pastor that has the

509
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: worst sort of energy around him right now that the team,

510
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: you don't even think the team wants to play formness.

511
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: De Sean Jackson cracked me up during his appearance on

512
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: Fox during their bye week, and you know, they brought

513
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: up the quarterback issue and he he wanted he didn't

514
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: want to say anything that killed r G three, but

515
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: he's also just an honest, with enough guy that he

516
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: didn't bother to sugarcoat things too much. And he just

517
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: talked about how well, you know, guys in the locker

518
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: room when they found out RG three was coming in

519
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: over Colt, there was a certain feeling there, and you know,

520
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: that was a certain feeling and I had to stand

521
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: up and talk to the guys and tell him, you know,

522
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: calm down, that's not up to you. And then they

523
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: asked him, well, who do you think throws a better ball,

524
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: which was a good question to ask. Kirk Cousins. You know,

525
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: McCoy or r G three and d Jacks are just

526
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: like Kirk Kirk Cousins. That's why it's not not promising.

527
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna switch my pick over to the Bucks

528
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: right now. You're not allowed to do that. I can

529
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: see why you would, though, He's convinced me. Could Mike

530
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: Evans uh I defended my hero. Yeah, he did a

531
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: good job. Could Mike Evans win Offensive Rickie of the Year?

532
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: Yes he could. He's on fire, really good. Yeah, he's

533
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: He liked outstanding against the Browns a couple weeks ago.

534
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: I thought Vincent Jackson had his best game and over

535
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: a month last week he looks healthy, had a lot

536
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: of big catches on the sideline where he was winning

537
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: one on one battles. This isn't the same offense that

538
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: it was a few weeks ago. The Bucks offense, Mike

539
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: Evans and Vincent Jackson are playing great together in the

540
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: same defense. I expect I expect them to be bad.

541
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: That's why I took the red. I look at the offense.

542
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: There is some hope because what they brought himccownt in

543
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: to do was to deal with a bunch of tall

544
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: receivers that he succeeded in Chicago with. But it was

545
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: a titan in a wide receiver that were rookies and

546
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: maybe now, you know, Evans especially is found as sea legs.

547
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: Maybe this one and eight start has a few wins

548
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: down the stretch. I'm not sure what we're getting excited

549
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: about the Bucks because they made to keep it within

550
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: ten against Atlanta at home, and that was a good result.

551
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: I think we see certain plays from Evans in the

552
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: offense that are promising. I'm just talking myself into this pick,

553
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: that's all. Let's just say I'm feeling a little bit

554
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: better about my hero pick. You know, the people of

555
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: Tampa say that we don't give them a lot of credit.

556
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: We just spent twelve minutes on them. You know the

557
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: Buccaneers in history, they rode the seas, and so did

558
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Whoa Rosan Tall? You picked the Vikings against

559
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears on Sunday. I need you to defend

560
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: that choice. Do I even need to sign me up? Baby?

561
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: You know, when you can get a hero pick potential

562
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: against the team that just set a record set by

563
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: the Rochester Surgeons or whatever, what was it, the Rochester

564
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: Jefferson's and that's a historically bad tire fire going on

565
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and I get a hero pick for the

566
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: frisky Viking team Teddy Bridgewater good look at defense. I'd

567
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: love in this one. The Red the Rochester Jefferson's were

568
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: disbanded the following year. I believe. Do you think that

569
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: we should do that to the Bears? You give up

570
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: fifty points to Bridgewater and the Vias, and we should

571
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: at least have a relegation system. I think a number

572
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: of decision makers could be disbanded from the Bears. I

573
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: I think so too. And this is I guess it's

574
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: not an important game for the Bears, but it's a

575
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: dangerous one because they're at home there three and six.

576
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: Have they won a home game? No, not since last December.

577
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: They haven't won a home game yet this season. The

578
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: Blackhawks have won at Soldier Field more recently than the Bears.

579
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: And and they're playing and they're playing the team that

580
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: on paper they should be, or that that had much

581
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: lower expectations. That's one reason I don't feel I feel

582
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: very good about this because couldn't that seem be really

583
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: ugly if it's ten three Minnesota in the second quarter,

584
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: just the crowd, it's for me, it just feels like

585
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: a game where obviously, like ent of the country is

586
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: going to pick against the Bears because of what they

587
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: saw a couple of days ago, and the NFL season

588
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: is whacky enough where it's like, no, they're just gonna

589
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: win this game, like seventeen sixteen on the last second

590
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: field goal, and it's like, oh wait, they're the home team,

591
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: and they have a lot of talent that's not produced

592
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: anything of late. The Vikings aren't world beaters. I am

593
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: less than thrilled that Greg is getting the hero pick

594
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: on this game because the Bears are awful. The Bears, well,

595
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: their defense is the Vikings should have Teddy Bridge rog

596
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: of his best day of the year. Yeah, I think so.

597
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he played pretty well in that first start

598
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: against Atlanta, and Atlanta and Chicago remind me a lot

599
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: of each other on defense in that they're terrible. There's

600
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: no pass rush, there's not much the like the fans

601
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: in the country actually did choose the Bears with you guys.

602
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: But I get a hero pick hop hoping that the

603
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: Vikings get to five and five. Now, let's move on

604
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: to the rest of the slate, and let's let's go

605
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: to New York this week. Talk a little forty Niners Giants.

606
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: We all took the forty Niners in this game. Mark

607
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: any temptation to take the Giant Yeah, because you know

608
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: they when they've been good on offense, which has not

609
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: been often, But in the games that they've been victorious,

610
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: they've looked really promising and put up a lot of points.

611
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: And looking at what Odell Beckham did last week against

612
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman with him draped all over them all all game,

613
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, yes, there's something about the Giants,

614
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: especially in the passing game, that there's some promise. But

615
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 1: I had to go with San Francisco because this is

616
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: their season. To me, I mean, if you lose this

617
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: then you're just one of these teams that's starting to

618
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: fall fall away in the NFC, and they are the

619
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: better team. I don't know if I don't know what

620
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: I feel about San Francisco. I guess I need to

621
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: see more. Like I didn't watch that game against New

622
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: Orleans and thinks, Okay, you know, their problems are solved.

623
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: It's not like the passing game has been consistent at all.

624
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't particularly consistent in that game. I don't think

625
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: winning in New York again the Giants is necessarily an

626
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: easy game. Giants have the NFL's worst defense. They're a

627
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: bad team. I don't think they really are right in

628
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: terms of yards. I don't think they're as bad as

629
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: some of those others. They have some weapons there. They

630
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: played better than his numbers last week. He converted a

631
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: lot of key third downs despite four drops by in

632
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: Kwoon Bolden and a couple of other drops, and basically

633
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis and Michael Crabtree don't show up. I want

634
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: to see if because you know, so Seattle ran for

635
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty yards franchise record on the Giant.

636
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 1: That's part of where this yardage thing is coming up.

637
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: That was outrageous on the ground. But in San Francisco,

638
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: if they can run the ball, that's who they want

639
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: to be. Can they get this done? They tried to

640
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: last week. They tried. Everything was power formations, a lot

641
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Speaker 1: of gore. It got back to kind of what I

642
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: said the week before that you can want to do that,

643
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: but you have to do it well. And they weren't

644
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: really considering they were playing the Saints. They in the

645
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: first half, but they couldn't run it in the second

646
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: half when they needed to write. They ended up you know,

647
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: they got a hundred forty four yards. I guess I

648
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't slight them at all that most of that came

649
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: in the first half. Frank Gore ended up with eighty

650
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: one in that game. I just think they gotta get cars.

651
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: I hate to say this, but I think they gotta

652
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: get Carlos Hides. Look at you burying the inconvenient truth.

653
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm not burying him. But it's just surprising to me.

654
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: It's twenty three carries for Gore and four for Hide

655
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: and whenever Hides in there. I mean, he's got more juice.

656
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: There's that. That's like me saying the Ravens need to

657
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: play Marlon Mores, Steve Smith. Yeah, I don't Hi. It

658
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: has been overall not overwhelm. He looked good last week.

659
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: He looked really good. I just think he's got juice.

660
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean he has a total of nine carries over

661
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: the last three weeks, which just doesn't seem enough. And

662
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: in over those three weeks, you know, he's averaging over

663
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: five yards per carry for for what it's worth, on

664
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Speaker 1: those nine carries. I think you gotta get him the ball.

665
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: I think you're right, Mark, this is kind of a

666
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: game that they can't lose. And and something will end

667
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: up talking about a lot over the next few weeks.

668
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: It's just how many wins it's gonna take in these

669
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: two conferences, because this is a loaded year and I

670
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna sneak into the playoffs at all.

671
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: Moving on to Houston and Cleveland this week, Mark, we

672
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: talked about levels of concern. What's your level of concern

673
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: for the collectively high? I think because you know, I don't,

674
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Speaker 1: I don't. Cleveland took care of business in Cincinnati whenever

675
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: there's a divisional game like that. I think that plays

676
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: into the occasional we know you so well, once we

677
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: get rolling, we can we can just romp over you.

678
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: They were gifted with Andy Dalton's you know it wasn't

679
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: it have nothing to do with what they were doing

680
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: on defense, But Andy Dalton laid the egg of all eggs,

681
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: and you've got it. I think that the guinea pig

682
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: in this game because they're gonna deal with Ryan Mallett,

683
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: whether you like him or not. They don't have a

684
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: lot of film on the guy. There's no concept of

685
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: how he'll how the offense might change behind him, and

686
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: then on on their own offense. Clowney looks like he'll play,

687
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: and no one seemed clowney and walk together outside a

688
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: week one for a limited amount of snaps, and so

689
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. There's a couple of

690
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: X factors here. It's the kind of game that does

691
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: concern me from Cleveland's angle. Remember the scene in Swingers

692
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: the Diner the next morning when yes, I saying you're

693
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: all growns up, and you're all growns up. Look at

694
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, all grown up. They have a trap

695
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: game on their schedule. Well, and they had one with

696
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: the Jaguars and they they fell down hard, they stumbled,

697
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: and West thinks they're gonna get trapped. That shot at

698
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: craft Mark Seessler's back. Oh it's not, because I almost

699
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: number one. Let's start with Arian Foster, right, He's a

700
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: game time decision miss practice again on Thursday. That's a

701
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: crucial enough piece that it could cause me to change

702
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: my pick. Arian Foster is right up there with DeMarco

703
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: Murray as far as who's playing the best at running

704
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: back in the NFL this year. He's been phenomenal. Alfred

705
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: Blues doesn't get it going for you. Alfred Blue does

706
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: not get it going well. It's about no team runs

707
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: the ball in terms of more carries per game than

708
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: Houston right now. I think there one or two. It's

709
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: and and they've got it. They've had success doing that

710
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: week after weeks. So I don't whether it's Mallet or

711
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: not that maybe this keeps saying that he's got a

712
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: strong arm. Well, you also have to throw it accurately,

713
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: and that's been his issue. Ryan Mallett's first career start,

714
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: the battle of Brady's backups in this one, Brian Hoyer

715
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: and Ryan Mallett former teammates. I mean, this is the

716
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: lot of backups some teams that couldn't get Tom Brady,

717
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: so you get the next thing. He'll be starter at

718
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: quarterback this year, Ryan Mallet. That's already more than a

719
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: year ago, which it was a high number even a

720
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: year ago. Mallett to me is a crazy That's why

721
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take him. That's why I wouldn't take the

722
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: Texans because to me, taking Mallett in his first start,

723
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: I have very low expectations, like I don't know if

724
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett's going to be any better than Zach Menberg.

725
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: It helps Cleveland to Sean Gibson looks like he might

726
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: not play. That's bad for the Browns, like he's he

727
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: leads the league in interceptions, and they probably won't have

728
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Cameron again. You know, it's the same thing last week.

729
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: You've got obviously no Josh Gordon, no Cameron. Andrew Hawkins

730
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: might play, but he's still banged up to some degree.

731
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: They're not healthy, They're not They're not that good. I

732
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: like the Browns. I think they have a magic to

733
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: them and I root for them. But to me, these

734
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: are two teams that are closer than they really are,

735
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: like different. I think they're kind of too mediocre eight

736
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: to nine win teams, and the Browns might be able

737
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: to get more than that because they're playing above their heads.

738
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: But it's not a game where I think, oh my god,

739
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: if the Browns lose, it's a catastrophe by any means

740
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: that that like they should win because their talents so much.

741
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: But it's almost like the Niners game in the a

742
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: f C, where if you fall to six and four,

743
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: then drop another one you've got You've got to almost

744
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: keep pace here with the conference that probably is going

745
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: to put a bunch of twelve eleven teams into the playoffs.

746
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: I'm not we said, Yester, how much for ten gets

747
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: you there? No right now? Whoever loses, you know, if

748
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: you're five and five, I think you're twelfth in the conference.

749
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: I mean that's what the Texans are right now. Even

750
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 1: if they won this game, they're gonna be eleventh or twelfth,

751
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: which is I mean, that's just a lot of teams

752
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: to try to pass Johnson back on the radar this week?

753
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: Why is that predicting a big game? I don't like

754
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: that one. Ryan Mallett to me, is an enigma. I

755
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: can't say he's terrible, and we don't enough people I

756
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: respect have said he's he can be a good quarterback

757
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't roll it out. And I don't think

758
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: that you can predict quarterbacks by preseason. We've seen Brandon

759
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: Wade and light it up, and we've seen good quarterbacks

760
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: too poorly in the preseason. So I'm to me, this

761
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: is an anticipated game. I want to see how Mallett does.

762
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: Also an enigma right now. The Seattle Seahawks passing attack,

763
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: this is a good one. Seahawks go to Kansas City.

764
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: Thought about putting this up at the top of the show,

765
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: but it's not quite as good as those other three.

766
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: It's intriguing because it's two teams to me that are

767
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: so different than what you expected before the season that

768
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: you just should forget about your expectations of what they

769
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: you thought they were after one week. Kansas City's offensive

770
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: lines not killing them. They've been able to adapt. And

771
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: Seattle's defense is good, but it's not last year Seahawk's defense,

772
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: like until proven otherwise, they're a good defense, they're not

773
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: a dominant defense. That scares me a lot. Do you

774
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: think that's crazy? Mr Mark Sessler? No, I mean I

775
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: look at Seattle and covering the past couple of weeks

776
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: in the office, Richard Sherman, who has been, you know,

777
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: perhaps the game's best quarterback last year, no question. He

778
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: has been a guy that quarterbacks haven't had a problem

779
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: throwing towards. They haven't shied away from them. Last year

780
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: he would automatically like in the NFC title Game, took

781
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: away a third of the field Kaepinnick didn't even look

782
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: over there. That hasn't been the case. And I think

783
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: the Cam Chancellor loss is a big issue for them.

784
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: And Maxwell's back now, but he was out for a

785
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: big chunk of time with the Chiefs, though, who I

786
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: think they believe. They still have not thrown a touchdown

787
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: to a wide receiver all year, so it's not necessarily

788
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: something that's going to help them in terms of a

789
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: big vertical game. At this thing. That still comes down

790
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: to Kansas City running the ball and getting Travis Kelsey

791
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: involve the stuff that's gotten him here. If you like

792
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: wide receivers, is the wrong game for you? Who's the

793
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: best wide receiver in this game? I guess it's Dwayne

794
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: Bow Doug Baldwin. Can we call Travis Kelsey a wide receiver, alright,

795
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: then he's the best? Mike Mayock said this week, he

796
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: pulled a bunch of general managers, a bunch of offensive

797
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: cording or defensive coordinators and coaches, and they nominated Travis

798
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: Kelsey for the most underappreciated, most underappreciated player in the NFL.

799
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: Is he underappreciated on his own team? It seems like

800
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't get as much playing time as he could have.

801
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: That could change this week. Anthony Fasano is in danger

802
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: of missing the game. Kelsey would certainly see an up

803
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: kicking snacks snaps. Then the Chiefs are a good home team.

804
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: Seattle's three and two on the road this year. I

805
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: don't think all these teams that are in the mix,

806
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: every game is important. They if they want to win

807
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: the division and if they want to have home games

808
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, they need to pull off some tough

809
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: road wins along the way because they have a lot

810
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: of tough road games coming up. Seattle has to play

811
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: Kansas City, they still have to go to Arizona, you

812
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: have San Francisco. I think that's a really tough matchup.

813
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: I took the Chiefs in this game. Dan Handis was

814
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: right there with me on the Chiefs. Both of you

815
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: guys took the Seahawks. I'm gonna hang with Seattle for

816
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: a couple more weeks and just assume they're gonna win

817
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: every game. And I've gotten I've got well, I've gotten

818
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of those wrong in terms of picking these games,

819
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: that's all. And you know this one's gonna get my

820
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: attention if they don't take this home. Yeah for me.

821
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: All these people who tweet me and say that I

822
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: hate their team, you know, and I called him boring, Well,

823
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: I do hate your team because they're boring. Chiefs are boring.

824
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't like watching them, so I'm picking against them.

825
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: How about you? How about you get the Arrowhead crowd

826
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: going on Sunday? You have Justin Houston and Tom Balley

827
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: and they're making Russell Wilson run around and he doesn't

828
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: know what to do, and they're getting going. How about

829
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: Alex Smith throws the ball past ten yards far re quest.

830
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: That's that's not gonna happen request an exciting football. He's

831
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: more of a running quarterback. Maybe that's I think Alex

832
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: Smith a very good quarterback. He's just not fun to watch. Yeah,

833
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: so as a fan of the game, I mean, I

834
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: don't have to be unbiased here. I'm completely biased. He's

835
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: a boring quarterback to watch. Well. Last note, Marshawn Lynch.

836
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: Last two weeks started with the Raiders game, and last

837
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: week has looked like a different guy. We'll find out

838
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: if that happens again. Also looking like a different guy

839
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: last week, Andy Dalton, he looked like me out there

840
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: or something. He looked like an amateur. I'm just saying here,

841
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of some bad quarterback. I

842
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: think that was an excellent analogy. Okay, uh Andy Dalton

843
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: this week now instead of playing the Browns. He's got

844
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: to go to New Orleans. I think it was like

845
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: not even a real human being, Like if you slice

846
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: them open, like milk and stuff would have float out

847
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: like one of those androids, an alien like Andy Dalton

848
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: was not a real individual last week, that I mean,

849
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: but he's you know, he killed them single handedly. Andy

850
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: Dalton last week or Trent Edwards most weeks, check down Trent.

851
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to come up with what they like.

852
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: How low did he go here? Was lower than that

853
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: where I'm saying people could have were begging for Jason

854
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: Campbell to come on the field. I'm I'm a fan

855
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: of bad football, and there was a point where, well,

856
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: you know, I like the really ugly quarterback matchups now

857
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: and then there's there's a time in a game where

858
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: it flips to the point where it's so ugly that

859
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: it's beautiful, that it's fun. And Andy Dalton's performance it

860
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: was it was too bad that the Browns were playing

861
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: that ruined it. It was kind of to that point.

862
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: It's fine for me, But do you think he just

863
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: bounces back and is normally any Dalton again or really

864
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: a mark? And Dan and I met up after this

865
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: game last Thursday night, because Mark was very happy about

866
00:42:54,200 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: the Browns a good should have a see how it goes.

867
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: And Dan actually glad I found this out before year

868
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: halftime review. And Dan actually compared Dalton to the butt

869
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: fumble game for Sanchez that this is a rubicon well,

870
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: and Dan also yesterday which I think he might have

871
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: been right about this, that he's so streaky that he

872
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: could bring it back around and have a couple of

873
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: good games a row. But the Bengals dropped this. Suddenly

874
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: you have to look at that team in wonder does

875
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: the team come back. I don't think that's a playoff team.

876
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean I haven't for a while, so I guess

877
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: nothing they've done is changed me off of that. Their

878
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: schedules rough right, they have to play a lot of

879
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: road games. The Saints haven't convinced me that they're some

880
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: jugger not in waiting either. I was a little disappointed

881
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: by Sean Payton last week and his aggressiveness. I done

882
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: that a couple of times this year, right didn't he

883
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: do that? It was against Dallas he didn't go for

884
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: a fourth down. And then in this game, mark Ingram

885
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: is running so well and they have a third and

886
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: two in forty Niners tear Doran overtime, they throw the ball. Okay,

887
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: that's questionable. I figure at that point they're playing for

888
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: two downs and then they punt. Aren't These aren't the Saints.

889
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: That's kind of a telltale sign though, that he's not

890
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: that confident in their offense. Well, and you bring up

891
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: West's stable of boy member Mark Ingram, and if Terence

892
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: West can run for ninety four yards on the Bengals,

893
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: Ingram can run for a hundred and ninety four, well,

894
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: we all put that past him. We all took the

895
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: Saints in this game. I think any Dalton will bounce

896
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: back and just be normal, just because every time we

897
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: think it bounced back to sub mediocrity, bounce back to

898
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: mediocrity to the Dalton scale, to the middle of the pack,

899
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: because every time, every playoff loss that he has, we think,

900
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he's never gonna come back from this.

901
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: He's the worst player, and it's like, okay, and then

902
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: he's there is president for this in Cincinnati. Kenny Anderson,

903
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: I believe season opener or two at a two point

904
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: eight passer rating got pulled from the game for Turk

905
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: Schoner who took the Bengals onto victory that game. Then

906
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: Ken Anderson came back in one m VP that year. Well,

907
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: Dalton will not be doing that part of it. But

908
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: we I think as football fans, we all have to

909
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: root for no Saturday afternoon Bengals playoff game, right, even

910
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: Bengals fans have to say, enough is enough of that experiment.

911
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's an annual holiday in the NFL. We

912
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: all get to watch the Bengals get beat on the

913
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: first Saturday of the play Um. Yeah, you know who

914
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks that are better than Turk Schoner? How about that?

915
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: This Turk Schonert? Even who is that? Who's Turk Schoner?

916
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: Was one of the better backups of the night? You

917
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: are having a professional day? That was Yeah, well I

918
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: haven't even completed it right here. Matt Ryan and Cam Newton,

919
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: those are two quarterbacks better than one of the stinkers

920
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: of the of the week. Though, in terms of the matchups,

921
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: this is such a good week of games that Atlanta

922
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: Carolina sticks out as a game that's not too intriguing,

923
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: but it does actually matter for playoff positioning in the

924
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: worst division that we've seen since the NFC West in

925
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: two thousand ten, Lanta would be in first place by

926
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: you know, one o'clock Pacific, So I don't think so.

927
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 1: I was thinking about Greg's premonition that we at least

928
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: one of these teams, probably two of these teams that

929
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: we ford will come back to. Honest well, they'll make

930
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: a sweat as all I said. It's not even a premonition,

931
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: it's just the odds we've I was thinking about teams,

932
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: the falcons of the team. I think that will make

933
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think their offensive line actually played

934
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: pretty well last week, for the first time in a while.

935
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: They've made some changes to undrafted center Stone looked pretty good.

936
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: They put Schroeder at right tackle. He's been better deep

937
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: offensive line knowledge. I'm just they're playing better. They're starting

938
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: to get a little pass rush. I think Massaqua has

939
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: been much better. Bab And has been good. I think

940
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 1: they could get a little frisky. And they're running into

941
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: a Panther's team with Cam Newton for an odd number

942
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: of reasons, playing some of the worst football he's played

943
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: in a long long time, and yet you chose the

944
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: Panthers in this game. Yeah, because this is too in

945
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: my opinion whether or not they could rise up to

946
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: win a terrible division. One of them. This is, this

947
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: is a pair of bad football teams, and I'm gonna

948
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: take the home team. I'm not going to pick the

949
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: Panthers again until Ron Rivera starts playing his best running back. Wow,

950
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: they've won one game since what week two? Right? The

951
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: Panthers one game since week two? Well, the Falcons themselves

952
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: just snapped a five game losing, right, And so we're

953
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: looking at a couple of nobody's here. It's a three

954
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: and six team versus the three six and one team.

955
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: But I think whenever you're trying to, like answer who

956
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: could be dangerous, you always got to go quarterback. You

957
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: always gotta go with Julio Jones. Uh. I chose the Falcon,

958
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: So did Dan and Wes. Kevin and Mark both took

959
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: the Panthers. The fans around the country were with you.

960
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: Kevin and Mark enjoy winning the weekly pick them situation.

961
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what your guys objective is. You're tied

962
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: with me? Huh, well not after this week. I don't

963
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: even know what to say from this nonsense. Uh. Moving

964
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: on to Denver and St. Louis, you just mentioned Sean Hill.

965
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: That defense that Sean Hill is going to be playing with.

966
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: The Rams defense is playing very well. They get to

967
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: go home after a couple of weeks on the road,

968
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: and they get an extremely tough matchup against the Broncos.

969
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: There any reason to think they can keep this game close.

970
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: The Rams defense, as much as you've been trying to

971
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: build them up, they're not nearly as good at what

972
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: they do as the Broncos are on offense. You make

973
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: it sound like I've been on some campaign. You have

974
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: been to the newsroom talking about the Rams defense. Watch

975
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: them play. I mean, Aaron Donald's good, Robert Quinn's good.

976
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: After that, come on. You know what I like is

977
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: that the season changes so many different times, Like even

978
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: week week five to week nine is different than the

979
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: next four weeks. And you know, teams can get better

980
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: and worse. Chris, and you've got to get out of

981
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: your old thinking about this Rams defense because there are

982
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: different defense right now. They're one of the best three

983
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: or four defense in the league. That's not true. Why

984
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: why is not? Why is that not true? They're explosive.

985
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: Their safeties last week played great. I forget McDonalds. J

986
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: McDonald had like an incredible game, and then E J. Gaines,

987
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: there's a name for you at Cornerball have the same

988
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: conversation after this game exactly because Denver one one thing

989
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: that doesn't change is Denver, you know, regularly dropping a

990
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: flood of points during one of the quarters of this game.

991
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: And then you're suddenly saying a Ram's offense that seems

992
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: to be a paint by numbers operation where Brian Schottenheimer

993
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: gets creative for sixteen scripted plays to start the game

994
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: has to keep up. It's not going to happen. Are

995
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: you saying? Easy equivalent of an artist who draws balls

996
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: of yarn and save face clowns. That's what you're saying.

997
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: And I agree with you. Do your kids do paint

998
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: by numbers? They into drawing and all you have two boys?

999
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: Yes there. Art comes in different ways. It's not happening

1000
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: in books on pages. It's on the walls or the

1001
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: floors of our house. It's very enjoyable. Boys will be boys.

1002
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: They did some sort of drying at my daughter's pre

1003
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: school this week. You know what you're thankful for or whatever,

1004
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: and they were supposed to draw, and my daughter, Ellis,

1005
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: she drew carrots. She said she was thankful for carrots.

1006
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: It's like, what kind of kid is a fan of

1007
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: vegetables like that? I was like, I gotta take her

1008
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: out and have some more fun. Carrots to the best

1009
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: that you can come up with. This is what happens

1010
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: when we start talking about the ram Tell her she

1011
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: can come out with uncle Chris's house and play cornhole again.

1012
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: Well we did. Yeah, that was fun. She she liked

1013
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: that she talks about Chris. She you're at the age,

1014
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, she's three, where they have they don't know

1015
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: really the difference between like Chris and my brother, so

1016
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: like they I think she thinks Chris is in our family.

1017
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: Well he is in your world family. Yeah, I would

1018
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: an uncle to my children. It's very marked answer. Uh,

1019
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,479
Speaker 1: do we have anything left to say on the old

1020
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: broncos this is gonna be I feel bad for anyone

1021
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: to pick the rams in this. In our situation, we

1022
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: did not, Uh, none of us took the rams. I

1023
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: I disagree. I think I'm you know, I think it's

1024
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: going to be a very close game. I'll just put

1025
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: it that way. And it wouldn't it wouldn't surprise, it

1026
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't be that crazy if they shocked the world so

1027
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: so funny. You were killing Sean Hill in August and

1028
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: September and now you're well, you're right. Sean Hill is

1029
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: not the reason why. I just think their defense is great.

1030
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: They're at home, and is their defense even better than

1031
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: the Broncos defense. I think they're right there. I think

1032
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: they're probably better. Well, one of them is facing Sean

1033
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: Hill and the other one's facing Peyton Manning. Uh, they're

1034
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: both definitely better than the Raiders defense. The team. The

1035
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: tone in your voice just suggested that Chris All Chris

1036
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: one one. He's now one in seventeen on the year. Uh.

1037
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: The Raiders who got trashed by Denver last week go

1038
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: to San Diego. I feel like the Chargers haven't played

1039
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: in forever. I haven't won in forever. It has it

1040
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: has been a while. The team of a t L

1041
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: the Sandy Superchargers, trying to get us back excited against Oakland.

1042
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: They do have some reinforcements coming though. Don't you think

1043
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: that makes a little bit of a difference. Ryan Matthews

1044
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: makes them a lot more fun to watch, I mean,

1045
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: brings them back to what they wanted to do to

1046
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: start with. This season talk about you know, I was

1047
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: mentioning that season changes as it goes. I mean, this

1048
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: Chargers team felt like a totally different team as they

1049
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: were heading into the by than they were the first

1050
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: five or six weeks when Rivers was playing so well.

1051
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: Rivers slacked off, but the offensive line really slacked up.

1052
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: And I don't really know. I think that I don't

1053
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: know what to make of the defense either at all.

1054
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is the key there. Rivers

1055
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: had three straight mediocre game, well, one horrible game. Brandon

1056
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: Oliver couldn't run the ball because there were no holes.

1057
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: The offensive line was the problem. And then on defense,

1058
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: they went from not allowing twenty one point in any

1059
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: game allowing thirty one points a game. They haven't been

1060
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: as aggressive on defense when I went to that mythic

1061
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys Chargers free. Just so you start talking about this one,

1062
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: well we've brought this up a thousand times, but I

1063
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: talked to Antonio Gates after and one thing he said

1064
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: was it annoyed him to constantly to hear, Oh, Philip

1065
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: Rivers is reborn and he's having a revival and has

1066
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: to do with his plays, Like, look, we got our

1067
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: offensive line together that is all the change. He was

1068
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: complimenting Rivers by saying, it's all that changed. Forget everything else,

1069
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: all you nerds, you don't know anything. We just got

1070
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: a line that can protect them. And when that's not happening,

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00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: he comes back to earth and the whole offense comes

1072
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: back to it. But they also last year, we're holding

1073
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: the ball for thirty eight minutes a game down the

1074
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: stretch when they were winning. I like that Antonio Gates

1075
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: used his opportunity to talk to you, to serve up

1076
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: verbo wedgies to all the nerds out there questioning quarterback. Yeah,

1077
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: it was interesting. He would seemed very irritated with the scribes.

1078
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: As football fans, we have to relearn this every time

1079
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: a really good quarterback goes through a funk, that it's

1080
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: always the surrounding town when yeah, when you know they're

1081
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: really good, if when they're established, and I think that's

1082
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: fair like sometimes like a guy like Ryan Tannehill, for instance,

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00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: I think if he had the best offensive line in

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00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: the league, we would talk about him as really good,

1085
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: but it would probably be a mirage. It would probably

1086
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: be more about the line, because no one goes up

1087
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: and down based on the week more than Tannehill. Rivers,

1088
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: on the other hand, can do pretty well even when

1089
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: you're sending some pressure at him. When we when I

1090
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: mentioned some reinforcements, I knew I knew there was a

1091
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: couple coming on defense. Melvin Ingram expected to play and

1092
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: have a major and he's been out since Week two.

1093
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: He's been on short term and Manteo is expected to

1094
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 1: return for this case. I actually think it's really big

1095
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: because their linebackers were so bad. I've watched the Charges

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00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: a lot, unlike you guys actually liked the team of

1097
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: a t L and I don't don't and they're terrible.

1098
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean they're inside linebackers, their whole linebacker groups terrible.

1099
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: So Teo is okay. One of those problems with their

1100
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: linebackers is that the guy they gave twenty eight million

1101
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: and guarantees to, Donald Butler, has been missing tackles all year,

1102
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: and Dwight Freeney, who started this season like a house

1103
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: on fire, has been very quiet over He's been very

1104
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: quiet over the last months. He is out indefinitely still.

1105
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: You know, the one game that where I thought Oakland

1106
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: and especially Derek Carr played at his best was this

1107
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: other Chargers game they played the first time, he really

1108
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: looked to finally have kind of made some sort of

1109
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: jump to the next place. He was making reads, he

1110
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: was the wide receiver group was making big plays all day.

1111
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen again. But this isn't

1112
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: a great defense right now. I think this is a

1113
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: terrible spot for the Raiders. I think the Chargers are

1114
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: a legitimately good team that are going to be right

1115
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: in the playoff mix to the end, and they're gonna

1116
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: be ready for this game and they're gonna crush the Raiders.

1117
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be like the first game Pittsburgh,

1118
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: Tennessee Monday night. We're gonna wrap up our show with

1119
00:55:54,440 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: the old Steelers and Titans. Oh Man, Zach Mettenberger, National

1120
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: Television West couldn't happen soon enough. You you seem to

1121
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: be just very angry with my idea that Mettenberger was

1122
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: okay last week. He wasn't okay. I don't think you

1123
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Speaker 1: can have a quarterback who goes eight of nine possessions

1124
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: in a row three and out, and a lot of

1125
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: them were his fault. Though we talked, we just talked

1126
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks and penalties they had. They tried to run

1127
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: the ball too much. But a quarterback who's fine gets

1128
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: a first down once in a while, that's not fine.

1129
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: He's been All the Titans have done has shown that

1130
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: they should be playing locker if he's healthy. Mettenberger, I

1131
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: went and had to do a story about him today,

1132
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: and all these people were tweeting at the beginning of

1133
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: the last game, Oh, he looks sensational. Was he did

1134
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: hit on five fifteen yard or more passes out of

1135
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: the gate, But then Baltimore put pressure on him and

1136
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: everything started to change. I question for you, Greg, if

1137
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: they if they believe in the guy, why are they

1138
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: running the ball three times in a row. Because they're conservative,

1139
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: they're hyper dull, but they're trying to press Sanky. To

1140
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: me is the bigger problem in the running game. There's

1141
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: nothing special about Bishop sank and terrible so they yeah,

1142
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean I was excited. No, he's not. I mean

1143
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: I was excited about him coming into the year, but

1144
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: it just shows I know nothing about college prospects until

1145
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: you see him, so none. I generally try not to

1146
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: have an opinion until they play in the NFL. There's

1147
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: nothing special about him. I mean, there was a couple

1148
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: of plays near the goal line last week at the

1149
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: beginning where I just thought eight out of ten starting

1150
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: running back score on that play. They get through that

1151
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: arm tackle and it's just like he just kind of

1152
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: fell down at the one. It's like, that's seven points

1153
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: because Sean Green ended up coming in because they didn't

1154
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: trust Sanky. Green fumbles at the goal line because he's

1155
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: Sean Green, and suddenly you know, that's a big, big

1156
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: moment in the game. That was my major red flag

1157
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: for Bishop Sanky and August when I watched him in

1158
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: the preseason, He's not getting through arm tackles. It doesn't

1159
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: have something about him. It's like, oh wait, there's something special.

1160
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: Even like watching like Derek McKinnon and a couple other guys,

1161
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: you see little flashes moments where you're like, yes, I

1162
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: get it, put him in there, let's see you can do.

1163
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't see that with Syanky. Mattenberger. I thought played

1164
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: as well in that game as Joe Flacco did. I mean,

1165
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: he made about the same amount of mistakes, He made

1166
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: the same amount of nice throws. You could see why

1167
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: at least they put him in. He's got a nice

1168
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: arm and he has the capability to throw like a

1169
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: twenty five yard deep out that not a ton of

1170
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks do. But he was not very aware of the pastors.

1171
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: She just stood there forever like he's not afraid of it.

1172
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: But he's not even aware of it. Wait till he

1173
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: meets James Harrison, who somehow has been pulled out of

1174
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: a somehow well, I mean, I don't know. This guy

1175
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: went away for long enough and I couldn't. I don't

1176
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: know where he came came from. Not happy to see

1177
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: him again, and he's going to destroy this guy. One

1178
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks biggest jobs is to make game changing plays.

1179
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco hits Torry Smith for the game changing touchdown.

1180
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: Za Bettenberger had no response. That's part of good quarterbacking.

1181
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: If if the Steelers are as good as we think,

1182
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: they'll come into this game in the role. But if

1183
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: the Steelers are like we've seen over the course of

1184
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: this season, if they continue to act basically how they've acted,

1185
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: this will probably be a tricky game for them. If

1186
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: you were because they've stunk against bad teams. They have

1187
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: a secret weapon. What who used to coach the Titans?

1188
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: Mike Munchek is the Steelers offensive line coach. Great, he's

1189
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: got he's got the key to beat in the Titans.

1190
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: What is the key? Just show up, hey, look at

1191
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: the roster. I mean, well, yeah, I mean the key

1192
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: is that Munschack built one of the most bland, unwatchable

1193
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, and of that roster is still there.

1194
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: They've got the secret. Their secret weapon is Tennessee actually

1195
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: has two wins on the year. Pittsburgh only loses and

1196
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: has stink bombs against teams with no wins or one

1197
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: win like the Jets and Bucks when they play the

1198
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: Titans are too good for them to have a Lettsburg

1199
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: has to go in and drop a mega hammer. I

1200
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: expect they will, but they have been a tough team

1201
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 1: to figure out this year. Uh this week, however, it's

1202
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: not tough to figure out. Who did a great job

1203
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: with this podcast. Mark Sessler wins the day. Chris, you lose.

1204
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: Now that is not fair and your view is coming up.

1205
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: We saw what happened. That's how my style would be

1206
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: if I if I did host, I would declare a

1207
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: winner at the each one too. You know foment uh,

1208
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: you know consternation discussed amongst all night scoreboard here. I

1209
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: don't mind being called we all. We all won today.

1210
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone is still listening. Uh. We joked about Dan

1211
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: of course at the top. He will be back, thankfully

1212
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: in his host chair where he should be on Sunday

1213
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: night when we do our big time recap show. Until then,

1214
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: for Chris Wesseling, Mark Sessler, TD. We got Zack back

1215
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: there behind the glass as well. I'm Gregg Rosenthal. We'll

1216
01:00:50,560 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: see you Sunday