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Speaker 1: I'm Lance meadow Within In the next sixty minutes is

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Speaker 1: we'll continue to preview the upcoming opponents for the New

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Speaker 1: certainly cover an awful lot. And Paul, we got into

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Speaker 1: this a little bit on yesterday's program. We are inching

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Speaker 1: gearing up for the two thousand nineteen campaign. Indeed, that's

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Speaker 1: certainly enjoy yourselves when you come out the Giants practice.

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Speaker 1: into the two thousand nineteen opponents today the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 1: made some changes over the course of this offseason. Specifically,

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Speaker 1: get this third and twenty. He didn't say if we

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Speaker 1: get he said when we get when we convert this

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Speaker 1: third and twenty, then we're gonna run this plane. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna set him up this way, and then we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go over the top. That was high. Coach was as

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Speaker 1: an old sea. He always talked about in the past

436
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Speaker 1: ten and it was always about success. It was always

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Speaker 1: when we convert on this third and two, or when

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Speaker 1: we can convert on this third and nineteen, then we're

439
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Speaker 1: gonna do this and that, And that gives you confidence

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Speaker 1: as a player. And when you hear your coach, when

441
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Speaker 1: you your leader, and then seeing stuff like that and

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Speaker 1: put and and saying that the way he said it,

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Speaker 1: it gives you that confidence. So we were there and

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Speaker 1: tossident going into that that Viking games. I just didn't

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Speaker 1: know that I the outcome would be like that um

446
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Speaker 1: at the end end of the game. I just didn't

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Speaker 1: know that. Well, Lomas, before we let you go, and

448
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Speaker 1: you alluded to a little bit of this, the defensive

449
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Speaker 1: intensity in that game to shut down an electric offense

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Speaker 1: led by Culpepper and Randy Mawson. I'm sure a lot

451
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Speaker 1: of Giants fans remember the image of Jason Shorn's phenomenal interception,

452
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Speaker 1: But you know, what does it say about the opposite

453
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Speaker 1: facet of your team what the defense did to really

454
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Speaker 1: single handedly shut down one of the best offenses in

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Speaker 1: the league. Absolutely, Look, I got to get my guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, my guy, Keith Hamilton's the hammer man. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you what, man, I d line with him and

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Speaker 1: right hand guys up front and Jesse Armstead on the defense.

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Speaker 1: And now we just had so many guys. We had

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Speaker 1: a very good defense. I don't think I think if

461
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Speaker 1: this guy overshadowed because we didn't win the Super Bowl,

462
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Speaker 1: but we had a very defense that whole year long.

463
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Speaker 1: I mean I thought, I think our defense might have

464
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Speaker 1: been in the top ten um that whole year. So

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Speaker 1: we were very is very good on the decense side

466
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Speaker 1: of the bat. And actually basically the defense used to

467
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Speaker 1: tell us, look, all you guys got to do is

468
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Speaker 1: just burn the clock and not turn the ball over

469
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Speaker 1: and we'll win the game and stuff. So again we

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Speaker 1: knew we didn't have to do much of the offense

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Speaker 1: because we had a very very good defense that here too.

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Speaker 1: And I'm quite sure a lot of guys I'm for

473
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Speaker 1: getting off of that defense. But we had a phenomenal

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Speaker 1: defense that year. Well, Lomas, for what it's worth, I've

475
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Speaker 1: told you this before. You got ripped off of a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl vote that year because you should have gone.

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Speaker 1: You had a sensational year. You came in there with

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Speaker 1: Glenn Parker and Dusty Ziggler and Arnie. Of course he

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Speaker 1: signed the three of you guys before the season, and bingo,

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Speaker 1: the Giants were in the Super Bowl and you were

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Speaker 1: such a significant part of that. We appreciate you for

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Speaker 1: being part of our show today. Thanks so much. Lomas. Hey, hey, guys, anytime.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you all. Absolutely. That is Lomas Brown, former

484
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Speaker 1: Giants offensive lineman, Lions Radio Network color analysts kind enough

485
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Speaker 1: to weigh in on what to expect from the Detroit

486
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Speaker 1: Lions this upcoming season. As you heard from him, transitions

487
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Speaker 1: in terms of the front seven, a lot of former

488
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Speaker 1: Giants in the mix, some new faces in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: So just like the Giants are making a lot of changes,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see what Detroit brings to

491
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Speaker 1: the mix this year, and what I think you could

492
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Speaker 1: argue is one of the deepest divisions in the NFL

493
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Speaker 1: this season. It was also nice to reminisce a bit

494
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Speaker 1: about that two thousand campaign in which the Giants fell

495
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Speaker 1: short of the Super Bowl to the Ravens, but also

496
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Speaker 1: made mashed potatoes out of the Minnesota Vikings in the process.

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Speaker 1: That chap you must be hungry for lunch. I am

498
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Speaker 1: a bit yes, but we're only halfway home, so lunch

499
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Speaker 1: will have to wait, as we are going to transition

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Speaker 1: to another team that the Giants are facing this upcoming season,

501
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Speaker 1: and that is the Arizona Cardinals, a team that, similar

502
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Speaker 1: to the Giants, is also going through a great deal

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Speaker 1: of transition, a new coach, a young quarterback that they

504
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Speaker 1: took with the first overall pick, and to further breakdown

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Speaker 1: what to expect from the Arizona Cardinals this season, we

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Speaker 1: are now joined by Darren Herb and he's covered the

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Speaker 1: team for two decades and he now works for as

508
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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com. Darren, you got Lance Mettal Paul Tatino

509
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Speaker 1: with you here on Giants dot Com Big Blue Kickoff Live.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the time today. How's everything. I'm doing pretty good.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing very well? Thanks for joining us,

512
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Speaker 1: said obviously the first question we've got to ask it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that every show you've been on doing guest

514
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Speaker 1: spots begins with the whole Kyler Murray equation. What have

515
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Speaker 1: you seen from him thus far? I know, it's shirts

516
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Speaker 1: and shorts and they're not going to get into pads

517
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Speaker 1: and have pressure on the QB. And even though it's

518
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Speaker 1: light pressure during training camp, what have you seen from

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Speaker 1: him so far in terms of his adaptability as he

520
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Speaker 1: tries to make this adjustment to the NFL. You certainly

521
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: can see when you're watching them, even in this kind

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Speaker 1: of limited, uh circumstances so far that the dynamic kind

523
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Speaker 1: of athlete that he is and that he can be

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Speaker 1: on the field, and why they would be intrigued to

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Speaker 1: take him first over all and and kind of push

526
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Speaker 1: all their chips in the middle of the table for

527
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Speaker 1: a guy like this, obviously he's not as big as

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Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks and and that is something that

529
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Speaker 1: is bears watching as we go forward. But um, his

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Speaker 1: arm is amazing. Uh, you know, even for somebody as

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Speaker 1: as small as he is, he's he's got a rocket

532
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Speaker 1: and and he does throw an accurate ball. Uh. We

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Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of the speed part of his

534
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Speaker 1: game because of how you know, the offseason kind of works,

535
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Speaker 1: and because I'm not how to present sure how much

536
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Speaker 1: he wants to do that, Uh, as he's trying to

537
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: learn the game. Um, you know, clearly that's something that

538
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: will help his game and that's something that defenses are

539
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to watch. But uh, you know, Kyler absolutely

540
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: considers himself a pocket passer and somebody he's gonna be

541
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Speaker 1: able to be very effective back there. And I will

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Speaker 1: say that again, given the limited, limited circumstances that we've

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Speaker 1: been able to see him, Um, the idea that he

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Speaker 1: can work behind an offensive line, I've been impressed with

545
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Speaker 1: with how he's been able to do that, how he

546
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Speaker 1: can find his receivers. I do think Cliff Kingsbury's offense

547
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: ultimately will help him a little bit with that, but

548
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: he's been as advertised so far. Now, once we get

549
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Speaker 1: on the field and get other teams game playing against him, well,

550
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Speaker 1: we'll see how it turns out. But like I said,

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Speaker 1: I think watching him in the practice over the summer,

552
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Speaker 1: you absolutely can see why the front office and the

553
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Speaker 1: coaching staff wanted him. Well, Danren, you brought up the

554
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Speaker 1: offensive line and it's hard to overlook that faceted the

555
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: team given what happened last season fifty two times that

556
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks were sacked forty five times. Josh Rosen was sacked.

557
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Speaker 1: I know those are different quarterbacks. It's a new scheme,

558
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Speaker 1: it's a new offense. But what's the outlook of this

559
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Speaker 1: offensive line after all the struggles that were put forth

560
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Speaker 1: last season. Well, they have they have some optimism there.

561
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think anybody's expecting this to be

562
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Speaker 1: a great offensive line. Uh, but ultimately the key to

563
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: this line is going to be health. Um. You know there,

564
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Speaker 1: if they put out a Q Shipley at center, which

565
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: is still a very strong possibility as their starting center,

566
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: then four of their five projected starters are guys that

567
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: finished last year on injured reserve with serious injuries. Um,

568
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Speaker 1: they got shipped. They would have Shipley at center, who

569
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Speaker 1: was lost all season when he tours a c L

570
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Speaker 1: and training camp. A guy you guys are familiar with,

571
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Speaker 1: Justin Pugh, uh, suffered a knee injury and ended the

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Speaker 1: year on i R, as did left tackle d J. Humphreys.

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Speaker 1: And then they got Marcus Gilbert to play right tackle

574
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Speaker 1: from the Steelers in the trade and he finished his

575
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Speaker 1: year with the Steelers on IR. The only guy in

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Speaker 1: the starting lineup right now that was healthy with Jr.

577
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Speaker 1: Sweet the guard who they signed from Seattle. So you know,

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Speaker 1: health is going to be a big deal. And then

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Speaker 1: beyond that, um, yeah, they're gonna have to play better.

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Speaker 1: Pu is going to have to play better. How Freeze

581
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Speaker 1: is going to have to play better. Um. Everything I've

582
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Speaker 1: heard about Gilbert was when he was in the lineup,

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Speaker 1: he was pretty solid. It was just the question of

584
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Speaker 1: him staying healthy. So, uh, they have to have those

585
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Speaker 1: things come together. But um, I do think Murray will

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Speaker 1: help them in terms of his escapability, similar to what

587
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Speaker 1: we've seen with Russell Wilson making the Seattle offensive line

588
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: uh good enough over the years because of the way

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00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: he plays. And I do think Kingsbury's offense and the

590
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Speaker 1: way he schemes it up will have an impact there

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Speaker 1: as well. You know, every quarterback needs quality skill position players.

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Speaker 1: We know what David Johnson, Cheryls playing, guys like Larry

593
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Speaker 1: Fitzgerald have done. Their resumes speak for themselves. But but

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Speaker 1: I wonder besides their talents and their skills, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Murray coming into a very very very difficult situation.

596
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, the world is on his shoulders in Arizona,

597
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Speaker 1: being the number one overall pick like he is with

598
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Speaker 1: a very unique situation where his coach is basically married

599
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Speaker 1: him right now. I mean everything is riding on him.

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Speaker 1: How much can Larry Fitzgerald's leadership and maturity help a

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Speaker 1: guy like Murray as he tries to entertain this big,

602
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: very big step. Well, I think any time you can

603
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Speaker 1: have a guy like Lettery Fitzgerald in your locker room,

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's going to help him. I Mean,

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Speaker 1: fitz isn't the player he was seven or eight years ago,

606
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Speaker 1: but he still can make a lot of plays, and

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Speaker 1: I do think his stats will take a jump this

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00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: year again with all the circumstances related to the new

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Speaker 1: quarterback and the new offensive system. But you know, to

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Speaker 1: the bigger picture of of Murray and and having everything

611
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Speaker 1: on the shoulders, I mean, the reality is is if

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Speaker 1: you're getting picked number one overall to most of the

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Speaker 1: time a very bad team and you're a quarterback, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what happened. That's it. I mean, maybe a guy

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Speaker 1: that hasn't been in that situation, whether it's Baker Mayfield

616
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Speaker 1: or Cam Newton or whomever it might be. So um,

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Speaker 1: I think the one thing about Kyler Murray is he's

618
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Speaker 1: grown up as a h an athletic superstar. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's been the guy since he was a sophomore in

620
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Speaker 1: high school, starting for his varsity team and you know,

621
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Speaker 1: never losing games in high school and winning championships and

622
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Speaker 1: playing baseball. Being her first round pick. I haven't spent

623
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Speaker 1: a ton of time around him obviously yet, but from

624
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Speaker 1: what I have spent around him, he is he is

625
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: absolutely mentally uh tough enough to be able to deal

626
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: with the situation that doesn't necessarily translate exactly into success

627
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But I don't think he's going to

628
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Speaker 1: be hurt by the moment of being the guy. I

629
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Speaker 1: don't think that at all. We're talking with Darren Urban,

630
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: who covers the Cardinals for Hazy Cardinals dot Com, and

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, Paul brought up Larry Fitzgerald, but

632
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: I think also the other equation within the offense, Darren

633
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: is he is surrounded by a lot of young talent

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Speaker 1: that has potential and is up and coming. I mean,

635
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Speaker 1: you think about the receiving corps. Christian Kirk, who showed

636
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: some flashes last season, got hurt at the tail end,

637
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: and they just brought in Andy Isabella through the draft.

638
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Speaker 1: I mean, what's the upside in terms of the rest

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Speaker 1: of the core outside of Larry Fitzgerald in your opinion, Well,

640
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Speaker 1: I think there's a couple of spots. I mean, if

641
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Speaker 1: you're talking about the entire offense, I mean, I still think,

642
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: as you mentioned earlier, David Johnson is somebody who's going

643
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: to have to get back to the levels that he

644
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Speaker 1: was at a couple of years ago before he got

645
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: hurt in the Seen season opener and ruining that season

646
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: and then last year or quite frankly, uh, the coaching

647
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: staff struggled to figure out how to use David Johnson

648
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: correctly and it was totally obvious to everybody, and that

649
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: didn't play out very well for this offense at all.

650
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: So you need David Johnson to play. The receiving corps

651
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: is kind of a different situation. I mean, obviously you

652
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: mentioned fits and and Christian Kirk did out a solid

653
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: rookie year and they're expecting him to take a big

654
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: step forward, uh this season. But they drafted you know,

655
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: the three receivers, they drafted Andy Isabella and a Kim

656
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: Butler and key Shan Johnson. The new key Shan Johnson

657
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: and and so they're they're hoping that those guys can

658
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: take a step forward, but we all know the ups

659
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: and downs rookie wide receivers can have it, and and

660
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: being able to have them do a lot right away

661
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: maybe asking too much. And beyond that, you're you're you're

662
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: kind of hoping for some veterans to step up that

663
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: may or may not have done things in the career.

664
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: Whether it's a Kevin White, the former number one pick

665
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: from the Chicago Bears, who has been injured most of

666
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: his career, or you know, if it's a Farrell Cooper

667
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: or or whoever it might be. I mean, there are

668
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: some question marks that have to be filled in beyond

669
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and beyond David Johnson that are going to

670
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: be necessary for this team to take a significant step forward.

671
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: If I can go to a generic question about the defense,

672
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: we know they drafted Zack Gallen, who I like a

673
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: lot actually quite frankly coming out of college. We know

674
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: they added the sugs from the Ravens, who may or

675
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: may not have anything left on his tires. I I

676
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: don't know about that. But the gut punch when Patrick

677
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: Peterson gets himself suspended. Is that something they're going to

678
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: be able to navigate around during the first two months

679
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: of the season. How big a deal is that loss? Well,

680
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: it's it's a huge deal. I mean, if you take

681
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, arguably one of the best cover corners, I

682
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: don't even think that's arguably, it's just saying one of

683
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: the best of it. He is one of the best

684
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: cover corners in the league. And you take him out

685
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: for six games, that's a that's a gut punch that's

686
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: really really difficult to overcome. So you know how they're

687
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: going to work with that. We're going to see. Um,

688
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: you know, they were already going to start Robert Alfred,

689
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: the former Falcon, as the other cornerback. They did draft

690
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy with the first pick of the second round

691
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: out of Washington, and they believed he was the best

692
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: cornerback available in the draft. And you know, whether he's

693
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: actually starting in Peterson's place or they go with somebody

694
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: else and he's Murphy and as a Nickel will see.

695
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: But um, you know, they really liked the combinations with

696
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: Peterson in there. But without Patrick Peterson, there's there's gonna

697
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: be a hole. And and how advanced Joseph the defensive coordinator,

698
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: handles that. Um, I know he wanted to be super aggressive,

699
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: uh in terms of you know, man cover and and

700
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: and blitzes and pressure. But that's with Peterson in there.

701
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: And I don't know how much they're going to change

702
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: with Peterson out of there, but it's it's it's definitely

703
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: a hurdle. Now. See, he gets the six game suspension,

704
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: does Peterson. And that's relevant to the Giants because they

705
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: play Arizona in the seventh game on October here at

706
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: Metlive Stadium. So you know, I don't know exactly how

707
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: acclimated or how ready he's going to be, how many

708
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: snaps he even takes that first week back, or if

709
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: he's even ready to play that week, so that can

710
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: be of some interest, certainly to the Giants. Well, I

711
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: can tell you this Patrick Peterson, and you know, he's

712
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: talked a handful of time since this is engine has

713
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: come down, and every single time he's noted that his

714
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: first game back as a Giant, I promise you this,

715
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: I have no doubt in my mind he will be

716
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: starting in that game and be playing the whole time.

717
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: May Patrick won't let anything else, So I don't know

718
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: how well he's gonna play after having all that time off,

719
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: but he absolutely has that date circled in his head.

720
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: What did James Betcheck connection have anything to do with that?

721
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: You know, I you know, Bets Bets had a nice

722
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: run uh here in Arizona and they had a really

723
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: good defense in the in the time that he was

724
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. So uh, you know, I I think for

725
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: in that case, you know, Patrick coming back is just

726
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: the question. I mean, he's Peterson is is absolutely upset

727
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: that he you know, got suspended. Uh you know, he

728
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: understands why, you know, it's his mistake. Um, but he's

729
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: already itching to get back in the lineup. He's had

730
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: a very uh turbulent last nine to twelve months with

731
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: suspension and a trade request and all that things. And

732
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: I think he's somebody who would rather just get back

733
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: to the football part of it. And uh, that just

734
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: happens to be the starting point. Darren. You brought up

735
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: James Betcher, and clearly you've been following the team long

736
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: enough so you know what went on during his tenure.

737
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: But I know a lot last season was made of

738
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: the fact that well they brought in Steve Wilkes, he

739
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: runs a four or three defense. They were running a

740
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: three or four defense with Betcher and he just didn't

741
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: have the right personnel for the defense he wanted to run. Okay,

742
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: So now they make the change back to a three

743
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: four with Vans Joseph. Is it easy to say, okay,

744
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: now that they're back to a three four Darren, that

745
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: the defense should dramatically improve because it seems to be

746
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: the better fit with the scheme. I'm gonna say. I'm

747
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: gonna say they should be improved. Is there going to

748
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: be a dramatic improvement? Well, again, you know they're gonna

749
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: be missing their best cover corner for six games, so

750
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: that that is already a blow. But I do think

751
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: the guys that they have in the locker room, the

752
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: key hold overs from two years ago that were on

753
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: the defense last year, Corey Peters or a Chandler Jones.

754
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: You know these guys, even Hassan Reddick, who has been

755
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what he's gonna do ever since

756
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 1: he was a first round draft pick, and they moved

757
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: them all over the place because of all these changes

758
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: all the time. Um, I think they are going to

759
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: be better suited in the three four, and I think

760
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: there was a a certain side of release that they

761
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: were going back to it. I mean, I know last year, Um,

762
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: there was kind of a push and pull. I think

763
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: there was a thought that they were going to be

764
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: using there was gonna be more of a transition period,

765
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: let's put it that way under Wilkes to kind of

766
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: ease their way into the into the four three. And

767
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: it ended up being a little bit more dramatic. And

768
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: they just they did not do well at all, you know,

769
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: especially defending the run. Um they were they were a

770
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: complete sieve against the run. And and if they don't

771
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: find a way to you know, slow teams down running

772
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: the ball, uh, you know there it won't matter what

773
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: you know, alignment, they're going to be and so um,

774
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: but I do think there's a confidence in this locker room.

775
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: You know, considering that this team won only three games

776
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: last year, I do think that they've been able to

777
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: wipe that clean pretty well. I don't know if that's

778
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: because there was a you know, a coaching change, or

779
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're getting a dynamic quarterback, rookie quarterback

780
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: to put back there on offense. I don't know what

781
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: it is um but they don't act like this is

782
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: a team that you know, got battered around like they

783
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: did last year. So I think that's a good start.

784
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: But of course until we start playing games, and we

785
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: won't really know exactly how that's going to turn out.

786
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: What is the upside on Hassan Reddick, the former number

787
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: one pick who certainly got his share of headlines when

788
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: he came out in the draft. A lot of people

789
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: even thought he'd be a good candidate for the Giants

790
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: quite frankly as a as a stud linebacker. It's been

791
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: a little bit quiet for him and nearly going, hasn't it. Yeah,

792
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: And and there's multiple reasons for that. And part of

793
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 1: it is, you know, Hassan's taken a little more time

794
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: than people would have liked to kind of acclimate himself

795
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: to to playing linebacker when you know, he was rushing

796
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: off the edge of Temple a lot at the end.

797
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: But at the same time, his his situation was a

798
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: difficult one. He came in as a rookie, they're going

799
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: to use him as an inside linebacker, and then three

800
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: four and then in the fourth game of his rookie season,

801
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Marcus Golden, who you guys, are aware of uh towards

802
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: a c L and they decided their best case scenario

803
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: was to put Reddick out at outside labbacker in the

804
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: three four. So then all of a sudden, after spending

805
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: all the off season as a rookie and all training camp,

806
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: in the first part of the season learning inside, he

807
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: went back out the outside. And then well when that

808
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: season was over, Marcus Golden was coming back. Uh, then

809
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're trying to you know here,

810
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: trying to put Hasan Reddick back inside. And now all

811
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 1: of a sudden, or actually in the fourth three he's

812
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: technically still an outside linebacker, but it's a fourth three

813
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: alignment and and now he's back to being inside the

814
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: three flour. I just think Hassan has been asked to

815
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: do so many different things in such a short period

816
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: of time. It has not been conducive to him excelling. Now,

817
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: I know talking to Bill Davis, who's the linebackers coach, now, um,

818
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: you know, he's very, very optimistic that Hassan Reddick is

819
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: going to have a very good season because now he's

820
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: had enough time on the end at this inside and

821
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: the three flour that he's learned it well. Enough that

822
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: he's going to be doing a great job. And they've

823
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: got Jordan Hicks, a veteran who they signed from the Eagles,

824
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: as the other inside linebacker who's very smart, and they

825
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: feel like that combination really has a chance to shine

826
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: in the in the circumstances they have. Right now, we're

827
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: talking with Darren Irban, who covers the Cardinals for Hazy

828
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com. And Darren, we could have essentially brought

829
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: you down this program to also preview the Giants defense,

830
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: because I think you know about half the unit who's

831
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 1: been brought in to this team over the last two seasons.

832
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you a question because you

833
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: brought up Marcus Golden, and you know, when you look

834
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: at the Giant it's this season. I think he could

835
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: be an ex factor given the fact that he had

836
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: twelve and a half sacks before he tore his a

837
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: c L. And the Giants have moved on from a

838
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: number of their key pass rushers. And you know, you

839
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: referenced the torn a c L in seventeen and then

840
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: you got to see him in eighteen last year when

841
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: he returned. What did you see from when he got

842
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: back on the field that perhaps Darren Marcus could get

843
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: back to the level that he was at in two

844
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen this season. You know, I think I think

845
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: for Marcus, part of the key is what some of

846
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: the other guys are doing on the field. I know,

847
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: one of the reasons he was able to excel so

848
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: much in in uh in sixteen was the fact that

849
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: you got Chandler Jones on the other side. That doesn't

850
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: hurt a guy out comolutely, But um, I think, you

851
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: know what, Marcus is one of my favorite guys. I mean,

852
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: ever since he walked in the door. He's got it.

853
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: He's got a chip on his shoulder because he knows

854
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: he's not the body type that people expect to have

855
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: at that position. He knows that people don't always have

856
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: high expectations of him, and that drives him and all

857
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: he wants to do is be successful in the football

858
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: field for himself and for his family name. And I

859
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: just I'm rooting for Marcus Golden to get back to

860
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: where he was. He's he's the motor, and people want

861
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: to talk about the motor and the cliche of you know,

862
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: does this guy of a motor? He is the epitome

863
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: of a guy with a motor Now, he does have

864
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: some physical limitations and and that does that does hurt

865
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: him at times. But I do think, you know, if

866
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: he is to the point where he is completely healthy,

867
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming he is by now, UM, I have

868
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: no doubt that he's going to do everything in his

869
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: power to have that kind of season. Now, whether he's

870
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: got the guys around him, uh to really have it

871
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: all come together, We'll see what happens. But I believe

872
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: Marcus Golden can get back to that levels. We should

873
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: piggyback off of wood. Lance just asked you because two

874
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: other Cardinals are here. Antoine Bathet, of course, is expected

875
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: to be the giants starting free safety, and Olson Pierre

876
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: is also expected to be part of the defensive line rotation.

877
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: From what you saw them last year, what can Giants

878
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: fans expect, Well, I would say taking the ladder first.

879
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: I mean, Olsen was a guy who really flashed a

880
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: lot in twenty toy and I gotta get my years

881
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: straight twenty seventeen. Uh, and they had really high hopes

882
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: for him kind of moving forward, and I think he

883
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: was a guy who kind of got lost in that

884
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: four three three four switch. I think he's better suited

885
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: to be in a three four alignment and in some

886
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: of the things that people would want him to do.

887
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: And I do know that one of the reasons he

888
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: stepped up as a young guy that they were trying

889
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: to groom and be at someone. I mean, James Betcher

890
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: was here when that all was going on. So if

891
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: anybody knows what Olson Pierre can be and what he

892
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: should be, it's gonna be James Betcher. So I like

893
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: that combination for the Giants, Antomba say, great locker room guy,

894
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: so smart is going to is going to keep the

895
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: things in the locker room at the at the right level.

896
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: I mean last year, obviously they won only three games,

897
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: and this was a guy who managed to make sure

898
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: that everything doesn't completely blow apart. And I think there

899
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: was a chance he would still be here had the

900
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals not been able to get Dj Swyinger off of

901
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: waivers at the very end of last season. What's that happened.

902
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: I think they realized they wanted to get a little

903
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: bit younger in the secondary and they could do some things.

904
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: But I do think Antoine brings a heavy veteran leadership.

905
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he's obviously on the back end of his career,

906
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: he's not going to be making a ton of spectacular plays,

907
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: but he's very steady, and he's very smart, and again

908
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: he's going to help you in the locker room. And

909
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: that's something that James Betcher has brought to the forefront

910
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 1: Darren when he's talked with the media in recent weeks.

911
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: So I think that's already evident within the mix here

912
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: for the New York Giants. He's Darren Urban. He covers

913
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: the Cardinals for well over two decades as Cardinals dot

914
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: Com now works for Darren. Greatly appreciate the time the inside,

915
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate it, appreciate you

916
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: got it. That has Darren Urban weighing in on the

917
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. And you know, when you speak to somebody

918
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: who covers the Cardinals, Paul, it really puts the Giants

919
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: defense in perspective because you start to think about all

920
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: of the former players that are now on this roster.

921
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: And I thought it was very interesting what he pointed

922
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: out about Marcus Golden and the fact that what he

923
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: was able to see out of him in two thousand

924
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: eighteen that he thinks that he could get back to

925
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: the level. But here's to me the most important observation

926
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: that Darren brought and I had even hinted at this

927
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: on some of our previous shows. He had Chandler Jones

928
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: opposite him, and when you've got that other playmaker, Paul,

929
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: and that was one of the first things he pointed out.

930
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: It could do wonders for the other matchups that you're

931
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: gonna see on the opposite side of the field. Well,

932
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: there were two things I thought that really stuck out

933
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: from his conversation about those former Cardinals. The one about

934
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: Golden says, to me, he could be what Olivier Ronan

935
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: was when JPP was here. If he is the Robin, well,

936
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: then who's the batman? And and that certainly along the

937
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: lines of what you just said, becomes something to watch

938
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: because the Giants really need a batman and and we'll

939
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: see if Golden can fit into the cow correctly. Um.

940
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: The second part that that I thought was really interesting

941
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: what he talked about Olson Pierre, because this is a

942
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: guy who has had very limited playing time. Quite frankly,

943
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: if you look at his statistical resume, nothing jumps out

944
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: at you there. And the Giants picked him up as

945
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: a free agent in the off season, and obviously everybody

946
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: understands the James Betcher connection and you're like, okay, well whatever,

947
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, you don't know what to make of it

948
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: because there's not a lot of tape there and there's

949
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: certainly not a lot of stats there. But his comment

950
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: about how we talked with Wilma's Brown about Romeo Wilquara

951
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: and Devan Kara to the scheme didn't fit those guys.

952
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: They go to Detroit, they fit the scheme better. They flourish,

953
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: they produce, they become important parts of a rotation, and

954
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Wow, where did that come from?

955
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Well that what he said? What what are are our

956
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: urban said? About Olsen? It's got me intrigued about Pierre.

957
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: About Olson Pierre, he really has me intrigued about him

958
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 1: because remember in the spring workouts he was on the bike.

959
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: I believe he's coming off a sore back, and so

960
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: he didn't do anything during the minicamp and we're gonna

961
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: get our first chance to actually see him in a

962
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: Giant's uniform, or at least we expect to, once training

963
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: camp starts in a couple of weeks, and that's when

964
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: you're really going to be able to tell what he

965
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: could do anyway. Now, he certainly has the size, there's

966
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: no question about that. You look at him, he looks

967
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: like I got a president defensive lineman. He's a big dude. Okay.

968
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued now because of what he just told us,

969
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: thinking that maybe, just maybe it was the change in

970
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: the puzzle pieces and the scheme and the Cardinals that

971
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: forced him to get lost to the shuffle. And if

972
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: James Betcher is the guy who saw through all the

973
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: smoke in the haze, something that can really be good

974
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: about this guy in a three four, which is what

975
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: the Giants are playing. Maybe maybe the Giants found themselves

976
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: a sleeper here who could actually have more of an

977
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: impact on the defensive line than we think. Well, whenever

978
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: you can rotate defensive line personnel, I think it helps

979
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: anybody's cause. And the fact that he has familiarity with

980
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: Betcher doesn't hurt either. And I brought up when we

981
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: were talking to Darren Urban, and this is related to

982
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: what you're bringing up when you go from a three

983
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: or four defense for so many years, Because it wasn't

984
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: as if Betcher was there for just a cup of coffee.

985
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: You know, he was the linebackers coach. He became the

986
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator who had well established for him. We're talking

987
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 1: about many many seasons where at three or four defense

988
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: was always synonymous with Arizona. Then you make the change

989
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: bringing Steve Wilkes, who by the way, was also a

990
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: very well respected defensive coordinator. This is not necessarily anything

991
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: against him. He was in Carolina, they thrived, they had

992
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: a really good defense. But you're now having three four

993
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: personnel to adjust to a four three, and you know,

994
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: sometimes it takes more than a year for things to click.

995
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: And now of a sudden, they immediately moved from Steve Wilkes.

996
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: They part of ways with him. He's now in Cleveland

997
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: to go back to a three four, which means that

998
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: they didn't really, in my opinion, think things through that

999
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: clearly about how you were so established with a three four,

1000
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: you make the quick switch and now all of a

1001
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: sudden you want to go back to a three four.

1002
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you should have thought it a little bit more

1003
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: closely before you made that. And of course, as you're

1004
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: shaping your roster, this all has to be predetermined and

1005
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: and you know, and sometimes it actually takes you a

1006
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: year to make the change. Well, and that's why I'm

1007
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: kind of surprised that Wilkes gonna get another season. But

1008
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: that's I agree with you. So we will see if

1009
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: if Olson Pierre maybe turns out to be what Romeo

1010
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: Aquara was for the Lions, maybe he turns out to

1011
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: be that way for the Giants. Again, we didn't get

1012
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: to see him at all during spring workouts. He was

1013
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: on the bike, so maybe we should be keeping a

1014
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: little bit of a closer eye on him because that

1015
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: was a signing really that went under the radar. Well,

1016
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: you know what, it's reminded me of the conversation you

1017
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: and I had yesterday we were talking about sleepers on

1018
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: the roster and we actually did not bring him up.

1019
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: We were focused on so many other positions. He was

1020
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: a deep sleeper. But it does fit that bill again

1021
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: because now after what Darren Urban said and you think

1022
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: about maybe it's the scheme that he needed to return

1023
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: to so that he could now really spread his wings

1024
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: and makes you think about he could be a breakout

1025
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: player this season, let's see. Yeah, So that's certainly another

1026
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: player to keep close tabs on and just a review here.

1027
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: Paul brought it up when we were talking to Darren Urban,

1028
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna be playing the Cardinals Sunday, October twentie,

1029
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: So that's week seven here at MetLife Stadium, one pm

1030
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: Eastern kickoff. That would be the first game that Patrick

1031
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: Peterson his eligible to return from his suspension. And then coincidentally,

1032
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna play the Lions the very next week in

1033
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: Week eight, Sunday, October seven, also one pm Eastern kickoff.

1034
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: That game is on the road, and the Arizona game

1035
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: is gonna be interesting, not just because Peterson's coming back

1036
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: before we close up shop here, it's an interesting game

1037
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 1: because just think about this, by the time they played

1038
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Paul Arizona is gonna have I don't know

1039
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: when they're bias. I don't have the Cardinal schedule up,

1040
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: but figure they're gonna have at least five to six

1041
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: games a film out there, which I think is gonna

1042
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: benefit a team like the Giants, because I could see

1043
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 1: teams going up against the Cardinals early season having trouble.

1044
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: You don't know what to expect from Kingsbury's offense. It's

1045
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: the first few games of Murray out on the field.

1046
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a little guessing. I think by the

1047
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: time the Giants play Arizona, you're gonna have a little

1048
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: bit more of knowing maybe what to expect. I'm gonna

1049
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: go you one better. The Giants don't play the weekend before.

1050
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: They played ten days earlier in a Thursday night game

1051
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 1: against the Patriots, so they will have more than one

1052
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: week to study up to use a hundred of their

1053
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: concentration on Kyler Murray. In fact, they'll they'll probably watch

1054
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: the game that the Cardinals will play. It's going on

1055
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: on that Sunday while they're coming off of that Patriots game.

1056
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: So and that will be them home against the Falcons.

1057
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: By the way, so the Cardinals do not have a

1058
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: bye before they play the Giants. They'll have six full games.

1059
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: So when you talk about preparation, yeah, I don't see

1060
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: any excuses here. The Giants will have every opportunity to

1061
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 1: study the nuances of what Kyler Murray brings to the table.

1062
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: The reason I brought that up is simply because of

1063
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: the fact that I think if you're gonna play a

1064
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, especially with a new scheme and a college

1065
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: coach making the transition, I'd rather play them middle of

1066
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: the year, after the first quarter of the season, just

1067
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: because I think the more information you have better suits

1068
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: your defense. I have no problem with that sentiment. I

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Speaker 1: agree with you. So I think actually the schedule works

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Speaker 1: out to the advantage of the Giants this season, at

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Speaker 1: least from the perspective of that opponent. As far as

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Speaker 1: the Lions are concerned, they're bringing back the majority of

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Speaker 1: their personnel. But you know what, Daryl bevil is a

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Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator for that team. He's a veteran offensive cordin.

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Speaker 1: He was actually with the Seahawks for many seasons when

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Speaker 1: they went to the Super Bowls. But also, at least

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Speaker 1: you get some more film on maybe some of the

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Speaker 1: new wrinkles that the Lions are gonna bring to the

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Speaker 1: even though Golden Tate spent the first half of last

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Speaker 1: he's not going to be able to share any of

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Speaker 1: that well. But that's another great point because you think about, oh,

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Speaker 1: we have a player from that team. Hey, he's going

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Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, throw some clues out Now.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be able to help the corners know

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Speaker 1: some of the tendencies of the other wide receivers and

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford'm sure that I think will help. But the

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Speaker 1: scheme Bevil's not going to duplicate what Jim Bob cooters

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Speaker 1: and he will know the Lion secondary really well. So

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Speaker 1: that's another good point. So you know, those are the

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Speaker 1: types of things I think you need to take the

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Speaker 1: consideration as the Giants get ready for the two thousand

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Speaker 1: nineteen campaign. And that is gonna wrap things up for

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Speaker 1: us here on Tuesday's edition, a Big Blue Kickoff I

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Speaker 1: as always presented by Cora's Light. We're going to continue

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Speaker 1: to preview giants upcoming opponents the rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: The New England Patriots are going to be in play

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Speaker 1: tomorrow and then we hope to preview the Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers on Thursday, just to give you a taste of

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