1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined alongside as always by Wes Hodkowitz. 3 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau 4 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Field and West. We're here to review a twenty two 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: to nothing victory for the Green Bay Packers over the 6 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills in Week four Sunday at lambeau Field. Proves 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: the Packers to to one and one at the quarter pole. 8 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: But with this one, you might as well start with 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: the defense because anytime there's a zero on the scoreboard 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the game, that's a pretty good day. 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: First time at lambou Field since two thousand nine, first 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: time period since two thousand ten Halloween at the New 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 1: York Jets, and nine to zero victory for the Green 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Yeah, that was a shutout without a touchdown 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: by the offense as a matter of fact, and it 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: was very interesting. Mike. Obviously you wrote about it for 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: your game story. I wrote about it for our locker 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: room report. A lot of guys mentioned afterwards. Actually, Kyle 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Fraker was the first one to bring this up after 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: his three sack game this past week. I should say 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: even I think it was actually on Saturday, Mike Petton 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: sat down all of his defensive players and he put 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: up a slide for them, showing them the breakdowns of 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: their production and points allowed per quarter and just the 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: drastic difference between where they were in the first and 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: where they've been in the third, and kind of reiterating 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: to the guys with the main point being, you can 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: do this. You can play a full sixty minute game 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: without mistakes. You've done it in quarters, why not do 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: it for sixty full minutes. Certainly, playing against Josh Allen 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: helped the young rookie quarterback for the Bills. Things did 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: not go well for him on the day and the 33 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Packers were able to take advantage of it. Though, And 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: I know I got a lot of comments people saying, well, 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what you expected the Bills. This 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: is the team they were other than that that game 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: against the Vikings. But the thing is, Mike, is so 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: often we want to throw teams, we want to throw 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: coordinators under the bus after a rough performance. When you 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: play well against an opponent you're supposed to beat, that 41 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: comes with the territory. That's a part of the process. 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: So when you look at the weight of a season 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: in sixteen games, there's going to be those instances. And 44 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: for the Packers, and credit to Mike Petton and his guys, 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: they were able to take advantage of that, and you know, 46 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: really were the number one reason why the Packers were 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: able to get out of there with a win because 48 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: the Bills did not score any points. And when you 49 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: look at you mentioned Josh Allen. Obviously, what I saw 50 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: out there and as I as I always remind everyone, 51 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: I am no XS and OS expert when it comes 52 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: to this stuff. But what I saw out there was 53 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback to me who was dropping back in the 54 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: pocket and he wasn't sure what he was seeing, and 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: whether it was the the guys up at the line 56 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: of scrimmage dropping into coverage, whether it was the back 57 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: end covered switching to different coverage patterns man versus zone 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: after the snap, whatever it was that was going on, 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: I don't think Alan could quite decipher. He wasn't entirely 60 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: sure what was out there. And when he's not sure, 61 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: then the passes aren't accurate because because the confidence, the um, 62 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: the belief that everything is the way it should be, 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: it's not there. And so then so then you have 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: some wild inaccuracy. He ended up less than fifty completions, 65 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: turn the ball over three times, two interceptions, also got 66 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: stripped by Kenny Clark was sacked seven times. His passerating 67 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: ends up thirty six point three total yards for the Bills, 68 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: mostly thanks to losing sixty plus yards and sacks. Total 69 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: yards for the Bills a hundred and forty five yards. 70 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: That's the fewest total yards the Packers have given up 71 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: in a game since down in Tampa Bay when they 72 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: held the Buccaneers to just a hundred and nine. So 73 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: a really solid all around defensive performance. This isn't one 74 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: of those Factral had a great game with three sacks. 75 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: But even with that, with a couple of those coming 76 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: at the end, this isn't one of those where you're 77 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: saying this one guy for the Packers just went off 78 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: and had this amazing day. I thought as a unit, 79 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: as as a group, these guys played solidly. We talked 80 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: about it last week. It was time to put together 81 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: a four quarter game, and they did that. Yeah, and Jr. 82 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: Alexander comes up with a big interception there. Uh and 83 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: and certainly it was a bad to throw by Josh 84 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Allen there at the twenty. He gets pushed out of 85 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: the pocket by Reggie Gilbert. He has Blake Martinez kind 86 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: of breathing down his neck and he throws this in 87 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: advised ball into the end zone. Alexander makes the play, 88 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 1: but you have to make that play. That took points 89 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: off the board. He returns it out. Yeah. That that 90 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: that's just a terrible decision by Alan. It clearly falls 91 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: in the category of a rookie mistake. I mean, I 92 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: know things weren't going well, but it's thirteen to nothing. 93 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: If you get a field goal there, if you just 94 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: throw the ball away, kick the field goal, it's thirteen 95 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: to three. Year down by ten on the road, you 96 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: know the game is not over. He throws that interception, 97 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: the Packers get another field goal the other and it's 98 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: sixteen nothing at halftime. You're in a much bigger hole. 99 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: And as Mason I asked Mason Crosby about this the 100 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: game after the game too, not only being able to 101 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: turn the tide there and get them off the board 102 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: in the last minute of halftime, being able to march 103 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: down the field and set up a fifty two yard 104 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: field goal for Mason Crosby. When you're getting the ball 105 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: going into the second half, that's really demoralizing for a 106 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: team to to be able to have to weather that. 107 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: But then ha ha, Clinton Dix also makes his third 108 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: straight interception in three straight games. You look at the 109 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: past rushing packages claim Matthews got to the quarterback, there 110 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: were no flags thrown, which actually I say that facetiously, 111 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: but some of the guys even said Matthews even mentioned 112 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: to a couple of hits on Matthews or on Aaron Rodgers, 113 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: not that he wants to see his quarterback get hit, 114 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: but he said he agreed with it. It was good 115 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: to not see the laundry flying. And I think as 116 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: the Packers the game war on, they got more comfortable 117 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: in their assignments. The pressure packages were where they needed 118 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: to be. They started getting contributions from Jermaine Whitehead as 119 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: a blitzer, Blake Martinez got a sack, the it was 120 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: all across the board for the Packers. And as to 121 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: original point, when you get that many different people contributing, 122 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark had a force fumble and recovery late in 123 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: the game, it's it's gonna lead to good things. And 124 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: the Packers they've been waiting for a performance like this 125 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: were from beginning to end, they stitched together a complete 126 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: showing six three and outs. I believe it was seven 127 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: if you count them just giving up at the end 128 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: of the game after factors last sack. It was. It 129 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: was a type of performance I think that group needed. Yeah, 130 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: and you mentioned the no laundry on the field, and 131 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't just not getting the roughing the pastor calls, 132 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: but with the past interference and defensive holding and the 133 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: stuff that the Packers were troubled without in Washington, it 134 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: was really good to see that those penalties weren't happening 135 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: even happening either. And I'll say this with regarding the 136 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: roughing the pastor stuff. We saw what Antonio Morrison did 137 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: when he got a free rush up the mill and 138 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: I saw the same thing when we were kind of 139 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: finishing up our website coverage late in the day towards 140 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: the end of the Oakland Cleveland game. Hit on Oakland 141 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: quarterback Derek Carr. What you're seeing rushers doing now they're dropped. 142 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: They're just gonna drop the shoulder and drill the quarterback 143 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: in the mid section and they're not going to wrap 144 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: him up. They're just gonna use their shoulder to knock 145 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: him down because then you can't get the falling on 146 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: top of him and this and that or lift and 147 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: scoop and all these other calls we've been seeing. So 148 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks are gonna take I think they're gonna potentially 149 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: take some harder hits because defenders don't want to wrap up. 150 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: So another thing that falls under unintended consequences potentially of 151 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: this rule. Will see how that develops. But for the 152 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: Packers to get seven sacks, I actually went into the 153 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: week saying this is not a week you have to 154 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: sack the quarterback a whole lot, keep Josh Allen in 155 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: the pocket, don't let him run. They ended up doing both. 156 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: He didn't get away to run and they also sacked 157 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: him a bunch. Yeah, Kyler Factrol. Another question I asked 158 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: after the game to him is how much of an 159 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: emphasis was that for them? And that really sounded like 160 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: it was their biggest primary objective after seeing what Alan 161 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: had did with his feet, and ultimately I think that 162 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: game against the Vikings we've talked about a numerous times now. 163 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: They got a couple of turnovers they capitalize on those turnovers. Offensively, 164 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo had a really good drive to start the game, 165 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: and from there Josh Allen just kept moving the chains 166 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: with his feet and doing what he had to do 167 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: to keep the ball in the Bill's hands. The Packers 168 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: didn't allow them to do that in this game. He 169 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: had five carries, I think, for nineteen yards all told, 170 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: and Shady McCoy didn't become a big you know, part 171 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: of this thing. They were able to keep uh, Chris 172 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: Ivory and check out he went off for whatever it 173 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: was the eighty or ninety receiving yards last week. All 174 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: in all, the Packers did exactly what they needed to 175 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: do to win this game. And I think if nothing 176 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: tells you more about the week to week nature of 177 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: this thing. The Packers entered the game twenty three in 178 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: total defense. They were six by the end of the night. 179 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's not just Green Bay either. 180 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: That shows you across the league how much things can 181 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: flip this early in the season. Mike McCarthy said it 182 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: last week. You don't really know what you are until 183 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: you get through that first quarter, until you get through 184 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: maybe those first five or six games. I'm not saying, 185 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, the Packers gotta put together another strong performance 186 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: next week against Detroit, but at the very least, it 187 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: showed these guys what they're capable of when everything comes together. 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Okay, offensive 197 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: side of the ball A good start for the Packers. 198 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Two touchdowns within the first I believe nineteen to twenty 199 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: minutes of the game, but then they couldn't find the 200 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: end zone after that, settled for some field goals, had 201 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: a couple of turnovers here and there. Aaron Rodgers clearly 202 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: not happy with the way the offense performed. Mike McCarthy 203 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: trying to stay a little bit more upbeat and saying Hey, 204 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: of course, we know we have things to work on. 205 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: You know, there, there's there, There always are, and it's 206 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: always great to work on things after a victory as 207 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: opposed to after a loss. But Packers had to play 208 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: without Randall Cobb. If there's one thing that stood out 209 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: to me in this game, it's what we talked about 210 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: last week. You wrote about it as well with regards 211 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: to the running backs. This three headed backfield a hundred 212 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: and eighty three yards from scrimmage. If you combine the 213 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: rushing and receiving yardage of all three guys, boy, you 214 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: take that any day of the week. Yeah, And I 215 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: think time Montgomery was a big part of this thing too, 216 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: because you don't have Randall Cobb available in the slot. 217 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: So the Packers actually, I thought ransom concepts that helped 218 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: not only get the ball in Montgomery's hands, but allow 219 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: him to make plays in the open field. I go 220 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: back to that forty three rd catch, which ended up 221 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: being the longest play from scrimmage of the day. He 222 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: motions out lines up in the slot, finds a soft 223 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: spot in that secondary of Buffalo catches, it brings it 224 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: up field forty three yards. Explosive play, Packers get moving. 225 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: You look at Aaron Jones his first play, checking in 226 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: right away, same exact game plan is last week, right 227 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: where you had Jamal Williams start, you had Time Montgomery 228 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: come in. Third series, goes to Jones. Jones gets the ball, 229 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: h back. Gotta give a lot of credit to to lane. 230 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: Lance Kendricks opens the lane there with being able to 231 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: seal off the linebacker, and once you give Aaron Jones 232 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: two free steps, he's off to the races. Gets thirty 233 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: yards on that another seventeen office screen Jamal Williams. Although 234 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: if you look statistically, I don't think it's gonna jump 235 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: out to you. I thought, especially in the first off, 236 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: was very important for moving the chains. I get it. 237 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: You want to feature guys, you want guys to get 238 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: twenty touches a game, but that isn't the way the 239 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: league has gone right now. You need to have multiple 240 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: options to be able to keep guys on their heels, 241 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: keep defenders not knowing what your next move is gonna be. 242 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: I thought the Packers executed that brilliantly. Yeah, and the 243 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: fans continue to ask when you see the explosiveness of 244 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: a player like Aaron Jones, they continue to ask why 245 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: is he not getting the ball more? Why is he 246 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: not getting the ball more? Okay, against Washington, his first 247 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: game after the two games suspension, he touched the ball 248 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: seven times. Yesterday he touched at twelve times, eleven rushes, 249 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: one reception. I can see his workload continuing to increase here. 250 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: But as we continue to say, this is about the 251 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: long game. This is about still seeing on explosive dynamic 252 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones at Thanksgiving and beyond, hopefully setting yourself up 253 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: for a playoff run, not just Okay, we're going to 254 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: hand in the ball twenty to twenty two or twenty 255 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: five times a game and then hope he holds up 256 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: for the next three months, when let's be honest, as 257 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: a rookie his he didn't hold up. So all of 258 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: this is part of the equation here, not to mention 259 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: the production you did get from Time Montgomery and the 260 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: reliability you get between the tackles from Jamal Williams, whose 261 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: numbers I think would have looked better if not for 262 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: those carries at the very end of the game when 263 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: the Packers were just trying to run the clock totally. 264 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: And the other thing too might to remember think about 265 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: the last two times the Packers truly featured a running back. 266 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: It was Eddie Lacy in two thousand, thirteen and fourteen. 267 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey ran like a bowl those two seasons, but 268 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: he also ran hurt, basically down the stretch of both 269 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: of the thirteen I think was the year we end 270 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: up having the high ankle sprain, and he just pushed 271 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: through it because of his running stone, his ability to 272 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: absorb that contact. You want to have those guys right, 273 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: you want to have them healthy for late in the season. 274 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: The Packers did not get that benefit last year. Just 275 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: seemed like when one guy was up, another guy happened 276 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: to be down. They're trying to extend this thing. They're 277 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: trying to make sure that they have those matchup problems 278 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: for defenses to really have to hone in on in 279 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: the second half of the season. Aaron Jones off to 280 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: a great start seventeen carries for I believe a hundred 281 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: and seventeen yards or some thing like that on the season. 282 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: They want more of that, but they also want more 283 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: of that through the next twelve games of the year. Yeah, 284 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: also a lot of questions about Aaron Rodgers postgame comments. 285 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: Fans are wondering what was he being critical the head coach. 286 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: He didn't sound like he was happy with the game 287 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: plan or the play calling or something like that. There 288 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: was definitely some frustration in his voice with some of 289 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: those issues. I want to hear what Mike McCarthy has 290 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: to say later today after which will be after the 291 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: taping of this episode, and perhaps we'll get into that 292 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: discussion more later in the week. But I will say 293 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: this about the message that Rogers was sending. I think 294 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: in some ways he's a little tired of the narrative 295 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: of how inspiring he's being by playing on the knee. 296 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: It's a month into the season now. I think Aaron 297 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers is sending a message that things need to switch 298 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: a little from inspiration to execution, and this offense needs 299 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: to execute more consistently and and find the rhythm that 300 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: it needs for Aaron Rodgers, even with a bad knee, 301 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: to still be at his best. Yeah, because I think 302 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: you've seen him be able to move the football yesterday. 303 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: They had for nothing to sneeze that in an NFL game, 304 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely very important to have that aspect of it. But 305 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: you also want to turn those points into touchdowns. You 306 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: want to turn that production into touchdowns points on the scoreboard, 307 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: and I think that was probably the biggest takeaway. Although 308 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: they did move the ball, they again had to settle 309 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: for some field goals. They again, you know, had some 310 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: opportunities where they just didn't quite hone in on everything 311 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: when they got into gotten into the scoring territory. To 312 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I actually thought the offense responded 313 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: pretty well considering they lost. They didn't have Randall Cobb 314 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: for this game, and as I mentioned in our pregame periscope, 315 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: there's just nobody that replaces him. They actually they did 316 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: some stuff that they do with Cobb, with Davante Adams 317 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: work in the slot a little bit, but for the 318 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: most part, you just don't have another player like that 319 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: on your roster. And then you also lose Geronimo Allison 320 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: late in the game and he's off to a really 321 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: good start ends up being diagnosed with a concussion. So yeah, 322 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: for the Packers, depending on what happens here with Allison 323 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: and Cobb, you have to feed Adams, you have to 324 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: feed Jimmy Graham, who did get his first touchdown with 325 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: the Packers. Those are your primary playmakers. I think that's 326 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a big focus for them here, trying to 327 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: make sure that they feed those mouths, because give Davante 328 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: Adams a lot of credit. Eight catches for eighty one 329 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: yards going up against Tradavious White, a very talented young cornerback, 330 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: and Adams still found ways to get separation on fourteen targets. Yeah, 331 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: and hats off to the guys in the trenches here 332 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: for the Packers too, because going into this game, we're 333 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: talking about Mohammed Wilkerson and Justin McCrae as two significant 334 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: injuries in the trenches here for the Packers. On the 335 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: offensive line Byrone Bell filled in just find no issue. 336 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: Nobody was even talking about it. And the same thing 337 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: on the defensive line with Dean Lowry his snaps going 338 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: up when the Packers were in those three defensive line packages. Obviously, 339 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, over the long term, it's hard to replace 340 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: a guy like Mohammed Wilkerson who is on injured reserve, 341 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: and it doesn't sound like we'll be seeing him again 342 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: this season. But at least the early returns, the Packers 343 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: didn't look any different upfront in terms of defending the run. Yeah, 344 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: they didn't. They actually defended really well, I think it 345 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: was fifty six total yards, and that's including the nineteen 346 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: scrambling that they got from Josh Allen as well. Yet, 347 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark, I'm curious to see how they handle this 348 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: because I think I don't know the exact stats in 349 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: front of me. Actually, you know what, I can look 350 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: it up. He played a lot again, and that's sort 351 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: of been the path for him so far this season. 352 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: Yet snaps out of the eighty one. All told, he's 353 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: been a bell cow for them in the middle, certainly 354 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: Dean Lowry jumping in there. But on the offensive line, Mike, 355 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: I thought they had a whale of a ball game 356 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: Byron Bell moving in there. Brian Bloggett got a little 357 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: nicked up for a second, but stayed in the game. 358 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: I thought played well at that right tackle position. And 359 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: for my money, and I'm not Larry mccare and he 360 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: knows the stuff a lot better than I do. I 361 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: thought David Backyard was exceptional in this game. Obviously, we 362 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: know what he does as a pass blocker and all 363 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: pro in that regard, but he's getting down the field 364 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: with his athleticism, taking on you know, linebackers and defensive backs, 365 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, being able to make sure you get a 366 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: hat on a body. And Jerry Hughes the Buffalo defensive end. 367 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: He was the guy who changed that game in Minnesota. 368 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: The previous week. We didn't even hear about Jerry was 369 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: yesterday and that that's that's a huge credit to David 370 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: bat He's playing like the all pro that he is. 371 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: Two sacks and obviously you know you can go and 372 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: diagnose those and make of it what you will, but 373 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: a hundred forty one yards on the ground, and that's 374 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: exactly the target that you're looking for. Tip your captain 375 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: Byron Bell, as you said, he's a veteran. He's been 376 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: through the wars there in the trenches. I think he 377 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: looks great as a guard. I've always liked him as 378 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: a guard. Certainly he gives you the flexibility at tackle, 379 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: but I think that guard position really suits him well. 380 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: He was getting downfield on some screen opportunities. Looked like 381 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: the guy had been playing in that scheme all this summer. 382 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: He looked like he was a guy that could be 383 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: counted on in that spot. Yeah, I agree with you. Well, 384 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: before we go today, West, a quick look at where 385 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: things stand in the NFC North at the quarter pole here. 386 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: Everybody has four games in. The Chicago Bears on top 387 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: at three and one. They're on a three game winning 388 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: streak after the Week one loss here at lambeau Field. 389 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Packers next at two, one and one, the Minnesota Vikings 390 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: at one, two and one, and the Detroit Lions lose 391 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: on a walk off field goal by the Dallas Cowboys. 392 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: So the Lion are one and three, the Packers opponent 393 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: next Sunday in Detroit. I'll say this about the Bears. 394 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: I said it after the Week one game here when 395 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: we saw Matt Naggie and that offense with Mr Drabinsky, 396 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: I said, if they start attacking and throwing the ball 397 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: down the field and True Whisky starts getting that part 398 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: of the game figured out, watch out for this offense. 399 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: And boy, they really attacked the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And 400 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: I'll say this, looking at the highlights, those guys were 401 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: so wide open down the field. It was as though 402 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers came out with a defensive game plan to 403 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: take away all of the horizontal college like stuff that 404 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: I had talked about. They it was as though they 405 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: weren't even prepared for True Whisky to push the ball 406 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: down the field and his receivers were just wide open 407 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: the entire first half. They got out to a huge lead, 408 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: absolutely demolished the Buccaneers at Soldier Field. Chicago. Bears are 409 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: three and one and that right now they are the 410 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 1: talk of the NFC Nors and it's funny too much 411 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: because you look at what they're doing with Terri Cohen 412 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: now too. It all was sort of reminds you a 413 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: little bit. You know, Creem Hunts a different player, but 414 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: just reminds you of those those running backs and the 415 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: guys that you know, they were able to make into 416 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: huge playmakers during his time with Andy Reid in Kansas City. 417 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: Had a phenomenal game yesterday, hundred and twenty one yards receiving, 418 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: Taylor Gabriel fitting in really nicely with that offense. Allen 419 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: Robinson got a touchdown. So, yeah, you have to respect 420 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: the Bears. And the other thing that's really interesting too, Mike, 421 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, you can perseverate. I think that's been a 422 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: word you and I've been throwing around lately. You can 423 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: perseverate on what happened in the second half against uh 424 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: and even the last, you know, thirty minutes against Minnesota. 425 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: You can talk about the slow start against Washington. Depending 426 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: on how this year works out for the Packers in 427 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: the NFC North, the final thirty minutes of that game, 428 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: which Chicago, could have huge ramifications for the season if 429 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: if the Packers continue to, you know, go upon this pace, 430 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: if the Bears continue to find ways to get those victories, 431 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: if they get Mitchell Robinsky more confidence. A game like 432 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: that is going to go a long way in that 433 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: young man's confidence being open it up with six touchdown passes, 434 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: three fifty four yard It's it's gonna be very interesting 435 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: because all those games we talked about all the time. 436 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: Division games have huge ramifications for your season. Packers coming 437 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: back to beat the Bears, man, that could be one 438 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: to follow once we get to week seventeen, Yeah, no 439 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: question about it. With that, we will call it a 440 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 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