1 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: It's twenty one degrees in Jacksonville's eight in Bolton six 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: and killed there. This is TILL Talk, the official Jacksonville 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: Jaguars UK and Ireland podcast, presented by Gallagher. I'm Jay Lawrence. 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: As far as I'm aware, still no relation. He's Key 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Ram sur And hello. 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: Key, Hello Ja. Why do you say, as far as 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: you know, what. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: Do you think? I don't know. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: There might be some you know, it might be some 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: sort of news you know that we are related. 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. JP Shadwick is here, Hello JP. 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 4: I am not related, but it's nice to be with 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 4: the guests. 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 3: That's definitely not related. The Jags have a new head coach. 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Duval Liam Cohen loaves to get through today. Unsurprisingly, 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: this is probably the busiest episode we've ever had, actually, 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: and we're going to hear from the head coach's first 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: press conference a bit later on in the podcast. We 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: would update the rest of the news out of Jacksonville 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: and the Jags UK HQ two, but of course we'll 21 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: start with Coach Cohen. All right, just bear with me, 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: you two, okay, So we'll get to you in a second. 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: But I feel like we just need to go through 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. This month in a nutshell, the 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: jag was fired head coach Peterson kept on GM. Trent 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Boalki interviewed prospective head coaches. Liam Cohen was in the frame, 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: looked like though he was going to be staying in Tampa. 28 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: Jacks then fired ways with Boalkie. Cohen signs Tampa's upset. 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: Jack's happy, Trevor Lawrence happy is He's got a young, 30 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: offensive minded head coach. Jack's now looking for a new GM. 31 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: Tony Basselli's going to be helping that. And as no 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: till talk goes by without Brian Thomas Junior love he 33 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: is in the probi as he should be all along. 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: I think we can agree with that and nominated for 35 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: a Rookie of the Year JP. 36 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: Have I missed anything? 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 4: I think you covered it all. I mean, that's a 38 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: lot to get through there. It was a wild forty 39 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: eight hours. I'll give you that, because you know, the 40 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: news came down that Liam Cohen and backed out of 41 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: or taking his name out of the running for the 42 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: Jaguars head coaching job and was going to take a 43 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 4: lucrative number down in Tampa to stay as the offensive 44 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: coordinator and it wasn't long after that that the word 45 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: came on, okay, the Jags have parted ways with Trent Balkey. 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 4: And then it wasn't long after that the tea leaves 47 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 4: started coming together that this thing's still open and and 48 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: Liam Cohen is still interested in coming at least talking 49 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: to the Jaguars again. So that all happened within a day, 50 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 4: and in the next day here he is as the 51 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: head coach. And it's a quick turn. But you know what, 52 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: you only get, You might only get one opportunity as 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: a head coach, and to go through this process, right, 54 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 4: I mean, if things all of a sudden went sour 55 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: in Tampa Bay, for example, in the next year or 56 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 4: two offensively and for whatever in or out of his control, 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: like the he might not be in the mix a 58 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: lot of places again. So this was the time to 59 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 4: strike while the iron was hot, at least for Liam Cohen. 60 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: And from the outside looking in, we'll hear from him 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: a little bit later. Of course, you have to go 62 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: do it. It's a head coaching gig in the NFL. 63 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: It's in the same state you're in. It's got a quarterback, 64 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: They've got some players on this roster there are some holes. 65 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 4: So for Liam Cohen, a thirty nine year old guy 66 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 4: up and coming in the league, it's a good place 67 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: to really set down some roots. 68 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't a Tampa Bay Buccaneers podcast, so 69 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: we don't need to worry about how they're feeling about anything, 70 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: but from a JAG's perspective, from a Jags fans perspective, 71 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: JP as well. 72 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm coming out of it feeling quite. 73 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: Pleased because it feels like this is and in fact, 74 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: Shad Khan said a few weeks ago that he was 75 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: one of the things that he was most disappointed with 76 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: is how predictable the Jags were, And I mean, it 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: just feels like he's gone out to and got somebody 78 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: that is looks tailor made to be able to change that. 79 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: You know, what helps predictability, though an unpredictability is a 80 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: running game, and that's the Jaguars didn't have. So you 81 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: can be a whole lot more unpredictable when you have 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: balance and they don't know what you're gonna do. So 83 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 4: there's some of that that goes with it too. And 84 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: just the way, yes that the Tampa Bay offense improved 85 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: year over year he came in last year and it 86 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 4: was a group that was like twenty third in the 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: league and yardage per game in twenty twenty three and 88 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: didn't score the ball a lot, like twentieth in the league. Well, 89 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 4: this year they finished top five in both rushing and passing, 90 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 4: the only team in the league to do that. And 91 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 4: you know, it was his first year actually calling plays 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 4: full time in the NFL when he was the OC 93 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 4: at LA with the Rams, Sean mcvays calling the plays. 94 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: He's kind of just crafting it up. So that's that's 95 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: that's huge for the way he can turn some things around. 96 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: Curious to see what he does with the personality has 97 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: and what his mindset is moving forward for you know, 98 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: the needs moving ahead is we talked a lot about 99 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: you know, up the middle on defense, on the offensive line, 100 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 4: big people, all these things. Does he have that same mindset. 101 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: I think that'll be a big thing to hear in 102 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: the press conference, you know. But he's a guy that 103 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 4: came up through that tree. That's the hot tree right now, 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: the McVeagh tree. There are now four head coaches in 105 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 4: the league that worked under Sean mcvaigh, So it's kind 106 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 4: of how it goes. Sometimes you get a hot head 107 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 4: coach in McVeigh who's won a Super Bowl and everybody 108 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 4: wants a piece of that, right, and the Jaguars have 109 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 4: a piece of that now, and let's see if he 110 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: can kind of create his own tree. That's the next 111 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: step moving ahead for Liam. 112 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: Kahn JP TLS. What's it fifth season gonna be next season? 113 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: Seeing what Liam Cohen did with Baker Mayfield last season, 114 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: do you feel like this is a good fit and 115 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: potentially some course correction is going to happen next season. 116 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 4: That had to be a big piece of the interview process, right, 117 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: I mean, if not the first question, but I'd say 118 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: the top three questions. 119 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 5: Right. 120 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: I'm not in the process clearly, but if you're paying 121 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: the quarterback fifty million dollars a year, that's gonna be 122 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 4: high on the priority list of what do you think 123 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: about him? How do you get him better? And I'm 124 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: sure he had all the right answers, it sounds like, 125 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 4: so we'll see. I mean, you've got to get in 126 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 4: the room and work together. You know, you can hear 127 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 4: about each other and watch Bucks games all you want, 128 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: but it's a personality thing too, because you're in the 129 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 4: room with this guy for twelve hours, and you got 130 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 4: to figure out an offense that works best around Trevor Lawrence. 131 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: I think that's probably what he'll do. It's not going 132 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 4: to be just a plug and play offense. Okay, what 133 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 4: is Trevor like? What does he do well? And a 134 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 4: lot of people will say this, but it's really hard 135 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: to execute that and build the offense around what Trevor 136 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: is comfortable with and does best and then get him 137 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 4: better in those places where he's lacked a little bit. 138 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 4: So I think Liam's got the ability to go do that. 139 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: We'll go see if he can go do it. 140 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: Let's just go through that foty eight hours and JP, 141 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: because you know, a lot happened in that forty eight hours, 142 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: probably one of the more dramatic things in any head 143 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: coach seuch that you can think of for any team recently. 144 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, take us through that, and 145 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: take us, you know through what you know Shad Khan 146 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: would have been thinking at that moment. 147 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: I might have been thinking, like, wait a minute, why 148 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: is another guy backing out? Like I bet that's what 149 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 4: he was thinking, right. Johnson goes to the Bears and 150 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: then was he you know what he have come here? 151 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: Who knows, right, I don't know all the things. Yeah, 152 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter anymore, right, But Cohen interviewed and then 153 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 4: took his name out, So okay, that's not trending the 154 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: right way. He just don't know behind closed doors how 155 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 4: those interactions truly went, and you might not ever really 156 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 4: find out, you know, but it was clear that another 157 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: change was needed, and Shad Khan left that door open, 158 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 4: by the way in that press conference right after the 159 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: season that hey, if some some coach comes in here 160 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: with a different plan or an idea, I'm all here. Basically, 161 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: I'm paraphrasing. He didn't say that, that's my line, but 162 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: and then he stood up to it, so I got 163 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: I don't who knows if Li and Cohne even presented that, Hey, 164 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: I got a guy and we got a thing. You know, 165 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 4: here's the system we should do. However, it changed pretty 166 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: quickly after that, so you can put those in whatever 167 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: order you want, but it feels like that's the order 168 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 4: of operations, and bang, all of a sudden, Cohens listening again, 169 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: and I'm guessing the number probably went up to this 170 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: is professional football. It is about the money and I'm 171 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 4: gonna guess mister Kahan decided, Hey, you know what, let's 172 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 4: let's let's phoney up a little bit here and go 173 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 4: get our guy. 174 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: He actually released his statement. Let me read a bit 175 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: of a statement from Jackson and and Shad Khan. Actually, 176 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: I'll just read the first line to repeat my message 177 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: earlier this week. I'm deeply committed to building a winner 178 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville. 179 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: This is a positive step. 180 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 4: Do you know what? 181 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: I was following the head Coach Tracker and two names 182 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: that were coming up a lot that made me really excited. 183 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: One was Ben Jonson, one was Liam Cohen. And Ben 184 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: Johnson didn't work out, that's all right, Let's see how 185 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: he gets on at the Bear. So that would be fun. 186 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: Liam Cohen, I think that is exciting. I loved what 187 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: he did with Baker Mayfield and the Bucks, and I 188 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: think bringing that energy, that experience to Jacksonville, I think 189 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: it would be fun to talk about positive things over 190 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: the next podcasts rather than what we've been talking about 191 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: the rest of last season. So yeah, dude, I'm excited. 192 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: One thing about the head coach Tracker though, JP. Two 193 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: questions for you your interview for head Coach didn't come 194 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: up on head coach tracker and why did you turn 195 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: the position down this time? 196 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: Sources say that I was not even close to the mix, 197 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: so that. 198 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: Goes to beardy. They said to Beardy, right, and that's 199 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: why you got rid of it. Like next time, I'm 200 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: not going to just. 201 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna have once betten twice shy. 202 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 6: Right. 203 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know the whole list of guys that 204 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 4: you saw come in and talk the first wave, you know, 205 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: like half offense and half defensive mindset, and of course 206 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 4: on the defensive guys, you're like, okay, who's your offensive 207 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 4: coordinator going to? Because we just talked about the first 208 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: question is the quarterback? So yeah, I'm sure they had 209 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: to go through some of that. And let's now they've 210 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: got the offensive guy in and let's let's see what 211 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: his answer is of who's gonna call plays. I'm guessing 212 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 4: that he probably wants to call plays. But he's also 213 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: never managed a team on the field, So for a 214 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: first time head coach, you're gonna have a lot of 215 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 4: new things that surprise you and are like, wait a minute, 216 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: this is a whole lot more than I bargained for 217 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: in terms of time away from football, away from the 218 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: x's and o's, doing media obligations, meetings with players. I mean, 219 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 4: all these things you really haven't had to do before 220 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 4: as a coordinator or a play caller. Now all of 221 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 4: a sudden, you're managing the whole operation. So there'll be 222 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 4: probably a little bit of a learning curve with that. 223 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 4: But I'm sure he's been told what do you expect 224 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 4: from some folks who have kind of helped them all? 225 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: Are you're a fan? 226 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 7: Right? 227 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: You put in our WhatsApp group that you like this? 228 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 8: Right? 229 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm a fan. 230 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: I think that you know, back to what I said earlier, 231 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Shad Khant said that the offense, you know, the team 232 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: was predictable and he wanted to change that up. And 233 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we are now several years, 234 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: as you brought up earlier into Trevor Lawrence's career, and 235 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: we can all sit here and say that he is 236 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: a talented player, and we agree that he's a talented player, 237 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: but we can all sit here and also say that 238 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: we feel like he hasn't shown his full potential on 239 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: the field. So what do you do in that situation? 240 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: You know, we've spoken about this at length. You need 241 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: to make sure that the situation is as perfect as 242 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: it could possibly be to get the talent out from 243 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. And if that means getting somebody like Liam Cohenen, 244 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: then I think that's a that's a great thing. The 245 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: only thing I would say at JP, and you mentioned 246 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier on, is that he's had 247 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: a year calling plays. He's spent two stints in Kentucky. 248 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: You know, he was in with the with the Rams 249 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: as well. Are we going all in on a on 250 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: a small amount of type A great? 251 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 4: It's a great question, right. I mean, there's not a 252 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: lot of Uh, there's not a lot that's to you know, 253 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: all these young guys are hot and upcoming coaches. Well, 254 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 4: there's a reason they don't have a lot of film 255 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: out there now. He's had a lot of time in 256 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 4: LA under mcvagh. I mean, he was the assistant wide 257 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: receivers coach in eighteen and nineteen and they had some 258 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: really good receivers those years that he was helping coach. 259 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 4: And then in twenty was the assistant quarterback coach. Got 260 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: a little more involved that year, went to Kentucky. As 261 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: you mentioned in twenty one, as the OC and the 262 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: quarterback coach. I'm sure he was calling plays there and 263 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 4: then back with the Rams where you you know, you're 264 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 4: in the room with McVeagh every day as the offensive 265 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: coordinator in twenty two and it's a tough year because 266 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 4: you know, the quarterback got hurt and that was his 267 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: first run with Baker. Oh, Baker Mayfield's here, okay, cool, 268 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 4: and then they got connected then with back Kentucky. It's 269 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: just how it goes sometimes, like you don't know that 270 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 4: there's no direct line on these careers in the NFL, 271 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 4: and well, there's gonna be one for a little while now. 272 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: If all things go well, he's sticking around here for 273 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: a number of years and if you keep winning, you'll 274 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: be here as long as you want to be here 275 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: as the head coach. 276 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: You mentioned as well that there's there'll be a learning 277 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: curve which is expected. You wonder whether he'll try and 278 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: preempt that a little bit by getting some experienced coordinators in, 279 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: some experienced coaches, people that have been there, have done 280 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: it before. Have you heard anything about that. Can we 281 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: expect some you know, experience. 282 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: Sense to surround himself with experience, right? 283 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: It would make it would make sense, you think. However, 284 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 4: still I'm gonna guess from the outside looking in and 285 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: still not talking to him in person as of this conversation, 286 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 4: he's gonna be calling the plan and be the guy 287 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 4: that's yeah for sure. Right, So okay, that's one thing. 288 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 4: Now to your point about the defense, Yeah, it was 289 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 4: kind of the feel that Doug Peterson I think had, 290 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: or the idea that Doug Peterson had, Hey, let's get 291 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 4: an experienced coordinator on this side so I don't have 292 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 4: to go over there as much. It didn't work out 293 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: like that, but that was kind of the idea last season. 294 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 4: So what does that mean moving ahead? I think that's 295 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: probably a good call on the defensive side. He needs 296 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: somebody who's done it before you can just kind of hey, 297 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: go to your side of the building. We'll see you 298 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 4: on Sunday basically, and see you on the practice field. Now, 299 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 4: he's again like we're talking about the learning curve. It's 300 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 4: in games. It's decision making, it's you know, two minute drives. 301 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 4: When are we calling time out? When am I challenging? 302 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: Who's telling me to challenge? Like all these things as 303 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: a first time head coach, it's just a few it's 304 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: a long list. You got to figure out the operation 305 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: of that. So this is the time he's gonna get 306 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 4: a staff in and they're gonna figure all those things out, 307 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: and it might take a little bit of time time 308 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: in game, and this preseason will be huge for that. 309 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: In games that truly don't matter and the wins and losses, 310 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 4: how do we operate? What's who's on the headset with me? 311 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 4: What am I? What are we doing? Who's telling me 312 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: to call time out? Who? You know what? What if 313 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: we're on defense and I'm in an offensive meeting, like, okay, 314 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 4: do I need to How do I balance my time 315 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: on the sideline? So all that's in play. I think 316 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 4: that's why this preseason, this offseason is so huge for 317 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: a new head coach. 318 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: I just think the whole thing is is exciting. I 319 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: think it's exciting that he managed to take, as you 320 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: mentioned a little bit earlier on the Bucks, from you know, 321 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: a middling offense to one of the best in the league. 322 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield as well, who himself. You know, he's had issues, 323 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: He's bounced around the league. Lest remember he's bounced around. 324 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: He was with the Panthers, briefly was with the Rams. 325 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: With the Bucks, he's been able to prove himself as 326 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: a good starting option, and that's what we want to 327 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: see with the Jags, don't we. 328 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 4: It also helps that we have a Hall of Fame 329 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 4: receiver out there throwing to too and Mike Evans, right, 330 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: I mean, he got some He had some part about. 331 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior a second. I was like, someone's going early. 332 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: I'm not comparing them yet. However, you might dynamic playmaking 333 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 4: guy or two or three around you, and he had 334 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 4: some of that in Tampa, right, And Okay, when you 335 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: have that going with a play call and to go 336 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 4: with it, that's the combination. 337 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: He's the guy that really, I mean, Trevor Lawrence hopefully 338 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: is going to be you know, pleased with the appointment, 339 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: but Brian Thomas Junior is the guy that's going to 340 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, this might work out quite well for me. 341 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean no doubt about that, because I mean, 342 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: think about this offense last year and what was going on, 343 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: and he's still getting they didn't throw in the football 344 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 4: the first half of the season, Yeah, and he still 345 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: goes over it that. 346 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: The numbers considering that fact are super impressive. 347 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: So when you have actual a functioning offense with that 348 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: guy healthy and playing well. Look out. I think there's 349 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: there's big, big things ahead for Brian Thomas. 350 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: In fact, what talking about Brian Thomas Junior. No that 351 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: we you know, we speak about him quite a lot. 352 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: Let's be fair. 353 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: Whilst we're talking about him, he's had a bit of 354 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: recognition over the last couple of weeks as an e JP. 355 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, got the nod as the first alternate 356 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 4: to go to the Pro Bowl in Orlando. The Pro 357 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 4: Bowl games there's not an actual game anymore, it's flag 358 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: football and things. However, he was the first alternate. Say 359 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 4: Flowers was injured so unable to play for Baltimore, so 360 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: you could argue he should have been one of the 361 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 4: top four anyway statistically, but it's tough for a rookie 362 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: to crack that, especially in Jacksonville. You know, Jay Flowers 363 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 4: and the Ravens are out there all the time, all 364 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 4: these things. So I wasn't as upset with that as 365 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: a lot of people might have been. That he was 366 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 4: out to begin with, but being the first alternate, there 367 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 4: was a pretty good idea he was going to get 368 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: in anyway. But good for him, it's a fantastic rookie season. 369 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: And with that, he's a finalist for the AP NFL 370 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: Offensive Rookie of the Year. I don't know if we'll 371 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 4: get it. Jaydon Daniels probably's gonna get in my opinion, 372 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: is the hell of a year for the quarterback for Washington. 373 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 4: But I mean you can't argue with the numbers that 374 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: Brian put up. It's a great honor and I guess 375 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 4: he'll be at the NFL Honors when they award that, 376 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 4: as my guess. So good for him to be in 377 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: the spotlight and get at least some recognition for what 378 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 4: was a really tough year around Jacksonville. So good for him. Man, 379 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 4: it's only it's only going to go up from here, 380 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: I hope for Brian Thomas Junior. 381 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: Well, one thing, right when when Shad Khan let Doug 382 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: Peterson go in his statement, he was talking about looking 383 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: for a head coach that shared his huge ambition for 384 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: the Jaguars, and I have to say, when you hear 385 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: Liam Cohen talk and when you see what he did 386 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: last year with the Bucks offense, I think that word 387 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: ambition comes to mind for me and I like this match. 388 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: Yes, Liam Cohen. We've spoken a little bit about the 389 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: coaches as well. We haven't really spoken much about the 390 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: GM the GM search. 391 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: Is there anything that you can tell us about that. 392 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 4: There's really not much right now. I think they want 393 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: to get through from what I understand, they want to 394 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: get through the introduction of Cohen. 395 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 2: Do you think Liam Cohen has any input on this jpe. 396 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 4: I bet he'll have a little. He'll be in the conversation, 397 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 4: as my guess. But I think they're gonna take their 398 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: time too on this. I don't think this is a 399 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 4: two days and done. They still have to go through 400 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: rooty rule process with general managers as well, so there's 401 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 4: gonna be all that in play. But they're gonna get 402 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: the best candidates they can. They're gonna talk to them all, 403 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: give them all a fair shot like they did this time, 404 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 4: and they go from there. But I don't think they're 405 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 4: gonna rush to get a guy in here by Wednesday, 406 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: you know, and run the general manager role. It's gonna 407 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: be a little bit of a process again, and they'll 408 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: make sure they have the right guy and the right 409 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 4: combination of people in the building to get that done. 410 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: So nothing has of right now. I think they want 411 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: to keep this as clear as they can early in 412 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: the week for Liam Cohen and lift him up as 413 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 4: the new head coach and he's the guy that's running 414 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 4: the show and get. 415 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 3: Have a staf want to wait too long ago? Will 416 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 3: I JP? 417 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: Because you know the draft is isn't too long away. 418 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 4: It's coming up. Yeah, thanks for the reminder. It's Clock's ticket. 419 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 4: We're less than a month away from the combine, right, 420 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 4: So yeah, now the scouting staff's in place, The interim 421 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: GM is still here in Ethan Wall, like he's running 422 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 4: all those things like that. The only person that's gone 423 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 4: is Balky, right. Everybody else is still in place doing 424 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 4: their job. So in theory, whoever comes in as a 425 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: general manager, which Ethan Wall will probably be in that 426 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: mix as well because he's the interim, he'll probably get 427 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: a conversation. At least whoever gets that role, we'll have 428 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 4: a staff in place already and get through the draft. 429 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: That's that's how different it is in the scouting and 430 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: the coaching clocks. In the cycles, right, most of the 431 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 4: scouts contracts are through the draft, and then there's a 432 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: whole huge change in scouts and personnel people after the 433 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 4: draft usually every year in the NFL, whereas coaches are 434 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 4: like right after the season, you know, so that you 435 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: want the staff in place, that the people who have 436 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 4: the institutional knowledge of what's going on in college football 437 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: and have already scouted players for multiple years and have 438 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 4: a database and all these things going on. You need that. 439 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 4: You can't just black everybody at one time because that 440 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 4: you might have the data in front of you, but 441 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: you don't know what it means, right, So so we'll 442 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 4: see what happens. But that's that's kind of the cycle. 443 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 4: In the NFL with the scouts, you have a staff 444 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 4: in place. Work is still going on, Scouting is still happening. 445 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: They're going to go to Pro Days with or without 446 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: a GM, and at some point they'll have a GM 447 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: to run the show. 448 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: JAP, thank you for thank you for joining us. I 449 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: just want to end on this line from from Liam 450 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: cong will hear from him shortly. As head coach of 451 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, I will hire first class coaching staff, 452 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: establish a distinctive and effective brand of football on both 453 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. 454 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: That's what gets me the most exciting. I think that's 455 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: what gets. 456 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 4: Distinctive that's that's that's big an identity, not have an 457 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: identity last year. That's exactly what that means. So whatever 458 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: that identity is, just have one and stick to it. 459 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: JP wonderful as always, Thank you so much for joining us. 460 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 4: All right, guys, Thanks Keith, Thanks Jay, appreciate you guys. 461 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're here from New Jacks head coach Liam Cohen. 462 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: Shortly but over the last few weeks since the last episode. 463 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: Actually key, no surprises. The Jacksonville Jankus have been announced 464 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: to play in London in the twenty twenty five season. 465 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: In fact that there are another couple teams as well, 466 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns the New York Jets. Will find out 467 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: the opponents in the next few months. But if you 468 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: are already thinking about it, first of all, don't blame you. 469 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 3: It's already on my mind. To be honest. 470 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: We actually have an exclusive Jacksonville Jankus London hospitality package 471 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: as well, to mention to you. You can enjoy a 472 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: champagne reception, street food style buffet stations, make another noise, 473 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: oh okay, too far, and unlimited that's what you're going 474 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: to get. And unlimited beer, wine and soft drinks. For 475 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: three hours pregame and during halftime. 476 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: So are you going to enjoy the game if you're 477 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: drinking unlimited beers and wines for the three hours before? 478 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: I'm sure you can. I'm sure that's the challenge. Reserve 479 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 3: for four or more guests. 480 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: Private tables come with halftime drinks and snacks, a match 481 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: day program, and post game savories. The Art Hospitality package 482 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: also offers exclusive NFL entertainment and live music. Register now 483 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: at seat unique dot com and experience the ultimate luxury 484 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: game day that seat unique dot com. Key, it's not 485 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: It's not bad, is it to already be thinking about 486 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: the Jags coming back to London? 487 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: No, and now that you're mentioning that package, that sounds 488 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 2: pretty pretty good as well. No, dude, I mean as 489 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: soon as as soon as we leave Wembley, I'm thinking 490 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: about thinking about Wembley. 491 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: Okay, let's say from coach then showe. 492 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: He sat down with Florida and NFL media for his 493 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: first press conference as JAG's head coach. 494 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: This is what you have to say. 495 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 9: As I said last week, this is a moment of 496 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 9: a lifetime. I want to thank people along this way 497 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 9: in terms of the process to get here, Tony Kahan, 498 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 9: Tony Bisselli, Mark Lamping, and Ethan Waugh. I genuinely thank 499 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 9: you for your honesty and trust throughout this process. I 500 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 9: owe a great debt of thanks to a lot of 501 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 9: the coaches that I've gone through the process with and 502 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 9: given me opportunities to. 503 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 8: Coach, because that's what I love to do. 504 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 9: Todd Bowles in the Tampa organization, Sean McVay and the Rams, 505 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 9: Mark Stoops at Kentucky, Mark Whipple at UMass, my alma mater, 506 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 9: Phil Estis at Brown, and Don Brown, who is my 507 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 9: coach as a player in a towards me in this profession. 508 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 9: They were all great football minds, but one thing they 509 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 9: had in common was leadership. And that's what this is 510 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 9: all about. It takes complementary football at all three phases 511 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 9: to be great offense, defense, and special teams. How do 512 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 9: we want to play the game? And that's fast, fundamentally sound, attacking, 513 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 9: situational masters, and tough both mentally and physically. You see 514 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 9: players in the room right here, guys that I've had 515 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 9: conversations with already. 516 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 8: It will always be about you. Always. It is players 517 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 8: over plays. 518 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 9: How do we make this as much about the players 519 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 9: and making this about bringing. 520 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 8: Out the best in you. That's what this is about. 521 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 9: Jacksonville, the community, du All, this has to be collaborative. 522 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 9: I want it to be as collaborative as possible for 523 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 9: us to go to the next level. 524 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 8: I cannot thank you guys for this moment, sad. 525 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 9: You just made a dream absolutely come true and we're 526 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 9: gonna work our tails off to bring championships to Jacksonville. 527 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 9: Thank you so much, and we're ready to get to work. 528 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 7: Thank you. 529 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: Who's got the first question today? 530 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 10: Gene, congratulations, welcome to Jacksonville. Before I get to forward, 531 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 10: thinking about your opportunity here, could you just briefly go 532 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 10: over last week a lot of reports that you were 533 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 10: going to stay in Tampa for a substantial pay raise, 534 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 10: then you changed your mind decided to interview here. Could 535 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 10: you talk a little bit about what made you change 536 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 10: your mind and was there any in any way any 537 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 10: misgivings in your mind about changing your mind, not about 538 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 10: pursuing a head coaching opportunity. 539 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 9: The opportunity to coach in Tampa was a phenomenal one 540 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 9: to get my feet wet in the NFL as the 541 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 9: offensive coordinator, and I thank them so much for that opportunity. 542 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 9: As you continue to do more research and gaining more 543 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 9: information as you go, it started to become more clear 544 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 9: with every hour that this was an opportunity that you 545 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 9: just can't pass up for so many different reasons, and 546 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 9: you ultimately want to do truly what's best for you 547 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 9: and your family, and that's what this came down to. 548 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 9: I will always love and remember those guys in Tampa, 549 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 9: my players, those guys, love them to death. But this 550 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 9: is an opportunity to also go and do it with 551 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 9: some new guys, right, and to go reach and touch people, 552 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 9: because that's what coaching and teaching is, and that's what 553 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 9: this opportunity is all about. 554 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 7: And extremely thankful for that. 555 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 9: But head forward, head and eyes up, and we're moving forward. 556 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 10: Just to be clear, was that did this have anything 557 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 10: to do with the change in the front office structure. 558 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 9: This was completely about an opportunity to work for an 559 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 9: owner and a group of people with a group of 560 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 9: players that needed some help. And that's what coaching is, right, 561 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 9: That's what coaching is all about, is trying to go 562 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 9: help people and be around people. 563 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 7: So no, that was not the factor. 564 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 10: Okay, beyond the opportunity to develop a quarterback like Trevor. 565 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 10: What is it most that excites you about this opportunity? 566 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 4: Right? 567 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 9: You see this place, Look at this right now, right, 568 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 9: look at this the community, what we're doing in the future, 569 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 9: the opportunity to be a part of something different. 570 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 7: Right, Let's be honest. This is different. That's awesome. 571 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 9: That's exciting for me and for my family to truly 572 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 9: be a part of something different, to go impact and 573 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 9: influence football players and people and staff. 574 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 7: That's what this is all about. 575 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 9: It's about trying to be a part of change and 576 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 9: improvement and go try to go do something different and win. Right, 577 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 9: Winning cures a lot. Winning cures a lot, and that's 578 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 9: the goal. 579 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 11: Well, I am welcome to Duval Rick Blue with not 580 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 11: a two point five FM and ten ten XL. Been 581 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 11: a lot of speculation, but we haven't heard it from you. 582 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 11: You will be calling offensive plays. 583 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 9: Yes, Rick, absolutely, we'll be calling football plays. 584 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 11: How important is it for stability? 585 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 7: You know? Stability? 586 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 11: Now with Trevor, this will be the fourth different play 587 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 11: caller as he gets ready for his fifth year. With 588 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 11: just a perfect scenario for you, as far as you 589 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 11: know what you've seen so far in his four years 590 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 11: and where you believe. 591 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 7: You can take him. 592 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 9: I was telling Trevor this the other day that I've 593 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 9: watched him play, you know, live as a freshman in 594 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 9: high school. 595 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 7: It was Beauford High. 596 00:29:54,840 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 9: School against Carol Wood Cartersville. Excuse me, sorry, I was 597 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 9: in the South, Joe. I was in Georgia. 598 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 7: Man, that's all I knew. And I was seeing this freshman. 599 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 9: In high school play the position at a high level, 600 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 9: standing tall, making throws, delivering, and I walked out of 601 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 9: there like, man. 602 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: This guy's this is different. 603 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 7: I had no idea who he was. 604 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 9: And then you fast forward to now, Right, how do 605 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 9: we make Trevor Lawrence in this offense as dynamic and 606 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 9: explosive as we can be? Right, We've got to build 607 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 9: it around him as well. Right, We've got to make 608 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 9: every part of this about improvement, and he will be 609 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 9: a part of that process. 610 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 7: He's earned that, right. 611 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 9: I cannot respect his toughness and mentality and work ethic 612 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 9: more than I do already from afar and this will 613 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 9: all be about Trevor right now. 614 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 12: Dimitrius Harvey with the Florida Times Union of Liam just 615 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 12: you were able to be here in Jacksonville during training 616 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 12: camp during joint practices. 617 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 7: I'm curious what you. 618 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 12: Were able to learn about maybe the team a little bit, 619 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 12: and then obviously the facilit and all that. 620 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 9: Great question to me, tris that was a huge opportunity 621 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 9: for me to see this. I walked through these halls 622 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 9: and oh my, this place is awesome. 623 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 7: And you start to see it. 624 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 9: And then during the course of practice those few days, you're. 625 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 7: Obviously competing against the defense on. 626 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 9: One side of the field, and I kept hearing oohs 627 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 9: and ahs on the other side, and you start to 628 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 9: you go back and wash the tape and you see 629 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 9: them throwing the football and VTJ going down the field 630 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 9: and these guys making plays, and that was cool to see. 631 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 9: I got an opportunity to talk to Josh heinz Allen 632 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 9: that day. I got an opportunity to talk to Luke 633 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 9: Fortner that day. Guys that I had had a you know, 634 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 9: relationship with, if you will, Those were all little parts 635 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 9: of this right where you got you have an opportunity 636 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 9: to look back and say, man, that thing's got a shot, right, 637 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 9: and that that gets you excited. And I think that 638 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 9: that was the beginning, as you mentioned, of really looking 639 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 9: at this as the opportunity that it became. 640 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 12: I'm curious too, you sort of touched on, but just 641 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 12: from what you've seen from Afar about Trevor and the 642 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 12: rest of the team, what do you sort of make 643 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 12: of it? You know, heading into this sort of new chapter. 644 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 9: I've mentioned this to the guys, this isn't a four 645 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 9: win team. Yes, that is the the record, but this 646 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 9: is not a four win team. 647 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 7: Okay, how do. 648 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 9: We go from winning games to not losing them? I 649 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 9: think that that's something we've got to address, and that 650 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 9: is got to be in our veins, in our DNA. 651 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 7: The culture of winning. 652 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 9: I've learned it from the Los Angeles Rams and from 653 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 9: a ton of other great organizations on how to go 654 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 9: win football games, and so I think that that's something 655 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 9: that it has. We have to start as a team, 656 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 9: as a group and show how we're going to go 657 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 9: do it. 658 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 5: Hi, Liam, nice to meet you, me O'Brian tentonxl A 659 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 5: lots of good How are you? A lot's been made 660 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 5: about going back and forth between college and the pros. 661 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: I know you've spoken about it before. 662 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 5: How you feel play calling, getting those reps that was 663 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 5: what was paramount, That's why you moved back and forth. 664 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 5: If you could just describe the last four or five 665 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 5: years going back and forth and perhaps how strategically, maybe 666 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 5: even this has set you up for this opportunity here today. 667 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 7: That's a great question. 668 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 9: The foundation of my career started in college and locker 669 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 9: rooms in Maine and Brown and UMass, places that, let's 670 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 9: be honest, don't have a ton of resources. So you 671 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 9: learn kind of your DNA as a coach in some 672 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 9: of those places, right, And then in the last few years, 673 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 9: you get an opportunity to go coach in the National 674 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 9: Football League, which has been the dream. Then you make 675 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 9: a decision that ultimately was a little dicey at the time, 676 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 9: I'll be honest. You go back to a place where 677 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 9: you just had success and had a great opportunity to 678 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 9: be at, but that was all done to go call 679 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 9: plays again, right, And that was the experience that I 680 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 9: kind of missed that year in LA. Knew why I 681 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 9: was going to take that job, but ultimately probably underestimated 682 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 9: some of the the leadership that goes with calling plays 683 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 9: and truly running. 684 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 7: The show on offense. 685 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 9: Things have changed in the landscape of college football, right, 686 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 9: That's we all know that. And when you start to 687 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 9: have a young family. Things change, your priorities change, and 688 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 9: the National Football League does provide a little bit more 689 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 9: of an opportunity to be a father and a husband 690 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 9: and a friend. And that's kind of why we've done 691 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 9: the back and forth for the last few years. But 692 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 9: I'll be in the NFL hopefully for a while. 693 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 13: Dan Hickin tend to XL and CBS. Mister con Liam, 694 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 13: Welcome to Jacksonville, Sean. I'll start with you as you 695 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 13: form this front office reports that you used Tony Boselli 696 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 13: helped you out, and the coaches starts with you in 697 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 13: the forefront. Is there a role for Tony going forward 698 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 13: in the front office or now. 699 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 14: Well, you know we are going to have a position 700 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 14: and you know, we're checking with the league what the 701 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 14: rules are, what we have to follow, and you know, 702 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 14: and then we'll ticket from there. 703 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 6: Okay, Mike Rocker with ESPN, Liam, who has sort of 704 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 6: been the people that have really influenced you in the 705 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 6: way you call plays, the way you kind of design 706 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 6: your offense, and you know obviously work with Sean McVay. 707 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 6: So would you consider yourself part of the Sean McVay tree. 708 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 9: Definitely, Yeah, I think It starts off with him, my 709 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 9: dad right here in terms of the mindset. 710 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 7: He was a play caller. 711 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 9: He was an offense offensive you know, designer, you know, 712 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 9: and he always instilled the players overplays mentality. And then 713 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 9: you go to Brown with Phil Estes to you mess 714 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 9: with Mark Whipple and then continue to go and then yeah, 715 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 9: I think getting to the rams in with Sean that 716 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 9: was where I learned. 717 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 7: Truly the game. 718 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 9: I think in a lot of ways right got my 719 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 9: if you will, PhD in coaching and learned at a 720 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 9: different level to be around him, the Kevin O'Connell's, the 721 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 9: Zach Taylor's, those guys, the Matt Lafleurs. To be around 722 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 9: them to see how they operated. This is the way 723 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 9: I would like to do things. You're always going to 724 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 9: have your own twist on it, but I'm proud to 725 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 9: say I'm in the saw McVay tree. 726 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 15: Brent Martineau from CBS forty seven, Fox thirty Action Sports Shock. 727 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 15: How much does what is a head factor into how 728 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 15: you viewed this because obviously you have this year, but 729 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 15: it's a limited capacity inside the stadium in twenty six, 730 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 15: no home games in twenty seven, new stadium in twenty eight. 731 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 15: Was that a part of the equation for you when 732 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 15: you're looking at this job. 733 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 9: I've actually looked at that as an exciting part of 734 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 9: this honestly. You know, my wife been in the military, 735 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 9: born in the Philippines, moved all over her childhood. I've 736 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 9: moved around a lot throughout this process and throughout. 737 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 7: My career here, so we're kind of used to that. 738 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 9: Honestly, we embrace that and to try to bring home 739 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 9: wins to Jacksonville. 740 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 7: That is important to protect our home turf. 741 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 9: It's going to be a little bit different, it's going 742 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 9: to be a little complicated over the next few year years. 743 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 9: But if we don't embrace that, then we have no shot, 744 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 9: right if we can go start to build something that 745 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 9: people are really proud of over these next two years. 746 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 9: In year three, wherever we're playing, we want people to 747 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 9: come and then to go into this next one that 748 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 9: we're coming into. I mean, sky's the limits. So that's 749 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 9: something that we're excited about. 750 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 15: Is that a mentality, by the way, to embrace even 751 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 15: the London games and how much do you embrace the 752 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 15: idea where this team has played and at times played 753 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 15: well over there. 754 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 7: My wife's favorite city. You know, it's a great place. 755 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 9: It's something cool, unique, different that ultimately, like I mentioned before, 756 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 9: that you want to be a part of You want 757 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 9: to be a part of change. You want to be 758 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 9: a part of something unique, and that's what this opportunity 759 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 9: does present. It isn't the norm. Nothing about this has 760 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 9: been the norm. But that's really cool. That's really cool 761 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 9: to be a part of that, and we're excited about it. 762 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 3: Liam once again, congratulations. 763 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 12: How do you assess the lines of scrimmage here and 764 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 12: where do you guys need to get better? 765 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 9: I think we would all you know, agree that it 766 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 9: needs to improve, right. I think that when you look 767 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 9: at first and foremost the offensive side of the ball, 768 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 9: you know you want that unit and that group, it's 769 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 9: the first thing when you break the huddle that the 770 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 9: defense sees. I want that to mean something. We want 771 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 9: that to mean something. 772 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 7: And it will. And that's a mentality. 773 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 9: That's personnel, that scheme, that's technique, that's fundamentals, that's attitude. 774 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 9: That's something that we need to make sure we instill. 775 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 9: And then on the defensive side of the ball, I 776 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 9: think we all know that we've got some talented dudes there. 777 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 9: We've got some guys that really go how do we 778 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 9: continue to ensure the inside? But we got three We've 779 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 9: got multiple guys up front that can do some good things. 780 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 9: We've got to put them in a position to be successful. 781 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 7: That's our job. The guys are there. 782 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 9: We can continue to add in that room, right, add 783 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 9: multiple different positions as well. 784 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 7: But that's where it starts. 785 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 9: As you mentioned, to go and playoff games and to 786 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 9: go do it, you've got to be able to run 787 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 9: the football and stop the run first and foremost. 788 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: I hate to finish the podcast on a sour note. Then, yeah, 789 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a few weeks since our 790 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: last podcast. We did we did confirm, all right, we 791 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: did confirm that at the end of the last podcast 792 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: that I did win the prediction standings, and therefore I 793 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: would be being sent something that belonged to you, a 794 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: bit of Jags merchandise. Now, I could have gone with 795 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: the rare bespoke Jags artwork that you've had made, but 796 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: I actually quite like you, would quite like you to 797 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: still be a friend, So instead I chose the Trevor 798 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,919 Speaker 1: Lawrence bubblehead. 799 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 3: I've been checking the post. 800 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: I've been scrutinizing the guy that the postman who, by 801 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 1: the way, coincidentally, where's a jags hat? 802 00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 3: Just saying yeah, saying it looks an awful lot like me, Yeah, 803 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 3: there's nothing. I'm got anything me. 804 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: I am still waiting for this and I don't want 805 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: this to be a situation and I feel like this 806 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: could be where it comes. August thirty first, So just 807 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: before the start of the new season, at the. 808 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 2: End of the last podcast, I sought some legal advice 809 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 2: that was a verbal agreement, which is not legally binding. 810 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 2: And if you know, as my nun always used to say, 811 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: I blame the postal service, I haven't sent it, Jay, 812 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 2: I will send it this week. It takes me more 813 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 2: than a couple of weeks to say goodbye to Mini 814 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 2: trev forward slash Julia. We've had a long time together. 815 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 2: It's a long, painful goodbye and one day, he she 816 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 2: they will be yours. Be patient? 817 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 4: Are you? 818 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: I just imagine that you're just sleeping next to it 819 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: every single night to say goodbye. 820 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 3: I mean I was before. 821 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: I agree, all right, So what you're saying is is 822 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: by the end of February, by the next podcast. 823 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 3: It will be in my possession. All right, Yeah, that 824 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 3: is a that is a legal binding agreement by the way. 825 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I tell you what I will send in the post. 826 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 2: I'll send a legal contract in the make it official. 827 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 3: I will not be sending it back. Key. 828 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: Look forward to speaking to you again in a few 829 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: weeks time. It's been a dramatic last few weeks. Actually, 830 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: I don't know what the next few weeks has got 831 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: to hold. 832 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 3: Hopefully, yeah, exactly. 833 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see, won't We speak to 834 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,439 Speaker 1: you in the next few weeks. 835 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 3: We'll be back at the end of February. 836 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: Till Talk in partnership with Gallagher has been a shooting 837 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: sharp production for Jacksonville, Jaguars UK and Ireland. 838 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 3: Go subscribe on your podcast on YouTube as well. We'll 839 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 3: see you in a few weeks time.