1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from how 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to podcast. I'm 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: editor Candice Skison, joined by staff writer Jane McGrath. Hey, though, Candice, 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: so today we have an email reply from a listener, 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: and this one is from Andy Hartman, and he wanted 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: to know something about the Spanish American War, which I 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: thought was a really good excuse because it's always been 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: one of those, you know, mysterious corners of American history 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: that you know, you sort of skipped over in history class, 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: and I wanted to know more about it. So he 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: asked about the dates regarding the Spanish American War, because 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: there's a monument in Sacramento, California that he's seen that 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: gives the dates as eight to nine two. But if 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: you look at the dates in history book, you'll notice 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: that the Spanish surrendered in so it's just four months long. Exactly, 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: it was, It's quick. John Hayes said, it was a 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: splendid little war. Short. Yeah, and there are a couple 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: different answers. But before we go into that, we should 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: we should talk a little about the war itself and 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: things that led up to it. Exactly give you guys 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: awesome background. So what's significant about the Spanish American War 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: is that it was based on the United States response 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: to rebels in Cuba who had been oppressed under Spanish 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: colonial rule for a long time. And there had been 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: some uprisings before, but finally there was enough guerilla action 26 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: going under their leadership of um well of many people, really, 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: but Jose Martie was really incindiarian and really got the 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: forces fired up. And what else is significant is that 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: the United States didn't just learn a helping hand to Cuba, 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: but by doing so really established itself as one of 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: the great imperial powers of the world. And in the 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: United States that were anti imperialists, so we're pretty ticked 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: off about this. So we see that it leads to controversy, 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: just not not just on the battlefield, but also in 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: ideology and politics too. That's right, knew back on the 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 1: age of exploration, which is really like when Spain gottled 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: these territories in the first place, it was before the 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: United States emerged. Obviously, the United States was kind of 39 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: result of this age of exploration, so Spain had gotten 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: it was really one of the first and most powerful 41 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: countries to start colonizing places in the Americas in particular, 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: so they they got all these powers, but by UM 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, they had lost a lot of these lands. Uh. 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: Cuba was one of those places they still held on 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: to um, although there was lots of unrest there. As 46 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: CANDUs was saying, there's the ten Years War between eighteen 47 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: sixty eight and eighteen seventy eight UM ten years long, obviously, 48 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: where the Cuba fought for independence and basically lost. And 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: on the treaty, Spanish tried to promise, so we'll give 50 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: you more powers and we'll give you more autonomy, but 51 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: it didn't really work out the way they wanted, and 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: by eight there was still violence breaking out and Sarah 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: Spain had control over Cuba, and they also had control 54 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: over Perrica, the Philippines and Guam, and something interesting was 55 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: happening at this time. And if you think about these 56 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: different island nations, you'll note that they're not all in 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: the same corner of the sea. They're they're pretty disparate. 58 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: And President McKinley actually had a military advisory named Alfred 59 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: Tiamahan who was saying that your nation is only as 60 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: strong as its navy is, and so it was important 61 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: to have different naval stations throughout the Caribbean and other 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: parts of the oceans around the world. And um he 63 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: even advocated for building a canal across the Isthmus of Panama, 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: which eventually happened, but not quite yet. And so the 65 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: United States thought, huh, this is a pretty good idea 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: and sort of an auspicious turn of events. Cuba was 67 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: asking for the United States help and throwing off Spain's power, 68 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: and the United States was thinking, how can we throw 69 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: ourselves at island nations and increase our our naval strength, 70 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: And so all of this came together in a perfect 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: storm of the Spanish American War, that's right, And so 72 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: public sentiment was was very geared towards getting Cuba free 73 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: and so um a lot of people were arguing, we 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: should get involved, we should get involved, and nothing actually happened, 75 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: um for real, until the explosion of the main Now, 76 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: the USS Maine was was a American ship that was 77 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: sorry used to say United States ship that was sent 78 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: uh towards Cuba to help look after American interests, their 79 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: US interests. So it mysteriously exploded one day February and 80 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: it killed all the members on board about more than 81 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: U S soldiers. I believe no one really knows what happened. 82 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: To this day, no one is exactly sure what happened 83 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: with the explosion. At the time, it was kind of 84 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: assumed that Spain was responsible and not everybody believed this. UM. 85 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: President McKinley launched uh UM an inquiry into what happened, 86 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: and nothing was very conclusive, and by the nineteen seventies, 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: actually they looked back on it in forensic evidence showed 88 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: that it was probably a result of a believe the 89 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: coal bunker UM there was a mistake there and something 90 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: went wrong and exploded. But again, that's one of those 91 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: cases of you get a big and tall and balden 92 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: headline on a newspaper and you're going to get a 93 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: lot of rallying support from the public, and the public 94 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: screens loudly enough. Typically the president has to respond in 95 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: some way. And what's interesting about press generated during the 96 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: Spanish American War, or actually right before the Spanish American War, 97 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: is that there were two competing newspapers at this time, 98 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: and the men behind them, William Randolph Hurst and Joseph Pulitzer, 99 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: they wanted to get their copies sold, and so you've 100 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: probably heard of yellow journalism, and this comes from the 101 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: idea of embellishing stories and creating untruths about what was 102 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: going on in the world at that time, and in 103 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: Cuba is a perfect place to make splashing news like this, 104 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: and so supposedly Hurst even told one of his reporters, 105 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: you furnish the pictures, and I will furnish the war, 106 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: because the newspapers were receiving pictures of Cubans who had 107 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: been put into concentration camps and and other outlets, and 108 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: they were being tortured supposedly about Spanish and they were 109 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: awful images. But when he sent reporters over there, there 110 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: wasn't actually a whole lot going on, So there wasn't 111 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: much of a story to write. We knew that there 112 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: were injustices, but we couldn't exactly, you know, put our 113 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: hands on what was happening and how the United States 114 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: should help because it was still unclear. And so the 115 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: newspapers were able to create the story themselves and get 116 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: people involved. And shortly after the main and this cry, 117 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: remember the main US Congress drafted a declaration of war 118 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: against Spain. That's right, and Hurst is really interesting also 119 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: because he not only sort of made up these stories, 120 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: he capitalized on this um yeah, imminent war as much 121 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: as he could. And Hurst actually made a card game 122 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: called War with Spain, and he started a fund to 123 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: build a main memorial um dedicated to the USS Main 124 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: and he actually offered a fifty thou dollar reward for 125 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: anyone who could solve the mystery of the explosion exactly. 126 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: And um, when war was all out called, like you said, 127 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: Candice Um, he actually referred to it as the Journal's war, 128 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: as if he he started it himself. Here briss I'll Italia. 129 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: But it worked. It worked. It got a reluctant United 130 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: States into war with Spain. And you know, I quitted 131 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: John Hay earlier saying it was a splendid little war 132 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: was just four months long and and really that's how 133 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: it went. I mean, there were these U. S. Troops 134 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: who started getting shuffled out the different island nations that 135 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Spain still owned. And the Cuban campaign was one of 136 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: the dirtiest and most awful because the troops that got 137 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: sent were so it equipped to deal with the conditions there. Um. 138 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: They sent one of the first black uh infantries to 139 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: Cuba to fight. This was shortly after the military had 140 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: been somewhat desegregated. They were moving towards desegregation, and they 141 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: found there was not adequate food. They were given really 142 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: heavy roolen uniforms and obviously it's way too hot in 143 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: Cuba for that, and the fighting was just pretty bloody, 144 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: and the troops were outnumbered against the Spanish troops, and 145 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: so victory for them really came on the seas because 146 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: the Spanish navy was very, very poor compared to the 147 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: state of the art ships that the American troops had. Yeah, 148 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: and adding to the food problem, um, there was also 149 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: problems with the actual food. Soldiers were complaining about it 150 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: and they said the beef tasted horrible. And there was 151 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: this scandal that broke out in the US at the 152 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: time that they were eating in balmed beef and somebody 153 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: said this word and it caught fire and people are like, 154 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: what the heck is that um? And that turned out 155 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: to be a rumor, I believe, But basically the they 156 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: think the heat of like the Cuban summer um made 157 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: it so the the meat did not last very well 158 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: and they were not eating very well over there in 159 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: Cuba anyway, So and a lot of them contracted yellow 160 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: fever and other diseases from being in Cuba and being 161 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: exposed to these conditions. And numbers that I've heard range, 162 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: but they approximate that fifty four hundred died in the 163 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: Cuban campaign, and of that only about three d eighty 164 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: if these deaths were actually due to battle and combat 165 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: with the Spanish forces. So if you can imagine, that's 166 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: what was going on. And one of the more interesting 167 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: parts to me at least, and some people say they're 168 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: sort of overrated, but it's fun to imagine, you know, 169 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt on a horse, you know, as a rough rider. 170 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: The rose Riders came in and this was a very um, 171 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: very sort of appropri of men, everyone from artists to 172 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: very wealthy men to politicians. And Roosevelt at that time 173 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: I felt that he had to do something to help 174 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: out with the Cuban campaign. And so they all got 175 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: together and they rode on their horses, and the African 176 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: American soldiers from the ninth Cavalry were very instrumental in 177 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: helping them to take the battle at Kettle Hill, and 178 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: they were able to outmaneuver the Spanish again, even if 179 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: they were outnumbered. That's right, and that's probably what made 180 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: this war so quick. Um. One of the major battles 181 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: we should mention, uh, the first battle that happened in 182 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: the war was happened actually not in Cuba or near it. 183 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: It happened all the way over the Philippines, uh, in 184 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: Manila Bay and Admiral George Dewey basically it was Teddy Roosevelt. 185 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, he was involved with the rough writers, 186 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: but before that he was actually giving out orders um 187 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: uh too for Admiral George Dewey to bring his squadron 188 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: over to Hong Kong to get ready to go to 189 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: the Philippines. And when do we actually got to the Philippines, 190 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: it was it was basically hands down victory for the 191 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: United States, and that really set the tone for the war. 192 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: I think it did. It did because there was that 193 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: chain of success, you know, once the United States had 194 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: won enough victories in Cuba, and then once they started 195 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: winning more victories and the Philippines, everyone was was happy 196 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: because they could see, you know, at the beginning of 197 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: the end. And a really key figure from the Philippines 198 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: was Emilio Aguinaldo and Um. He was very very excited 199 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: about the prospect of the Philippines gaining independence from Spain. 200 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: And along with the Filipinos, there were about eleven thousand 201 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: US troops that came along to help about Aguinaldo and 202 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: he actually declared independence from Spain on behalf of the 203 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: Philippines and Um he was able to commission the U. 204 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: S troops to help him out and whence they were 205 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: to declare victory there. The United States moved on to Guam, 206 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: but then things got kind of messy when when Spain 207 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: eventually surrendered, they were like, okay, you've got us. You 208 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: know you're Guam. Now we can we can easily see 209 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, Puerto Rico is next and we're gonna be 210 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: losing all of our territories. So they agreed to sign 211 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: a peace treaty. But then a Glenado got upset because 212 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: now the United States was in a position where it 213 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: could have control of the Philippines, and he thought, well, 214 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: who are these men I was fighting alongside, and even 215 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: the Antio period anti imperialists getting too excited and speaking 216 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: too fast. Even the anti imperialists in America were saying, 217 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: who is America anymore. Our nation had been founded on 218 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: the precept of freedom from tyranny and freedom from imperial powers, 219 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: and now we've become one of them ourselves. So it 220 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: was a really big struggle that went up to the 221 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: Supreme Court about how to disseminate these lands the US 222 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: had gained. Yeah, and uh, it's a controversial issue even 223 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: to this day because, um, you could make the argument 224 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: and they did at the time as well, that uh, 225 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: the countries that they is liberated from Spanish rule, uh, 226 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: needed to get on their feet now and are we 227 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: gonna just let them be? And like what would happen 228 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: if anarchy ensues or whatever? Like, they don't have a 229 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: very stable transition, and maybe we should stick around and 230 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: try to make that work. Sounds like a pretty familiar story, 231 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: doesn't it a lot of connections to the day today, 232 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: of course, And so that was the ultimate question, what 233 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: do we do with these territories? So the U. S. 234 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: Supreme Court ultimately made a couple of decisions. Uh, perto 235 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: Rico I was incorporated, the Philippines remained unincorporated, and the 236 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: Cubans were allowed to write their own concerts here shen 237 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: but the United States was still allowed to send troops there, 238 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: and ultimately Cuba became a protectorate of the United States. 239 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: That's right. And this was principally because of something called 240 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: the Teller Amendment, which was attached on to the permission 241 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: that Congress gave McKinley. When they originally said yes, go 242 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: ahead and use whatever you can to go protect Cuba 243 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: and liberate them from the Spanish. Uh, they attacked on 244 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: the Teller Amendment to say, when you're done liberating the Cubans, 245 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: you need to leave them alone. And there were of 246 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: course like provisions that like, okay, you can make sure 247 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: it's stable there. But but by nineteen o two, the 248 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: US mostly had left there and they had relinquished their 249 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: military government control over Cuba by that time. I said, 250 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: this brings us back to the question of the monument. 251 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: I found one book called Lies Across America by James W. Loewen, 252 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: and he points to this idea to where some monuments say, 253 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: like like Andy Hartman, our listener said that they give 254 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: the dates of the war from eighteen ninety eight to 255 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: nineteen o two, And he claims this is because it's 256 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: actually looping in the War of the Philippine American War 257 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: American War where the Filipinos wanted to ask the Americans 258 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: after the Americans else did the Spanish, and that didn't 259 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: settle or stabilize until nineteen o two. And so I mean, 260 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I if I agree with Lowen 261 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: on this point, because you could also say that the 262 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: monuments are looping in the idea that Cuba wasn't exactly 263 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: left alone until nineteen o two. But at least it's 264 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: an attempt at nswering that question. It's true, it's true, 265 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: But either way, I think the monument is wrong. Yeah, well, 266 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: maybe we'll take about collection and gout there and fix it. Anybody, 267 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: anybody at all? I'd like to go to California. I 268 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: know I could use it right now. It's sort of 269 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: cloudy and gray in Atlanta these days. 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