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Speaker 3: Using will be luck.

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Speaker 4: For?

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Speaker 5: It's time to beat? Oh? Yeah right, it's a little

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Speaker 6: Get ready, You're about to get invaded by the best

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Speaker 5: They used to give us awards for this.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to Morning Combat Monday No Friday, Friday, January tenth,

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty five. My name is that BBC with that

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Speaker 6: Bdan Campbell. The man next to me will defile your

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Speaker 6: porcelain even mid show. His name is Washington, dc'son Luke,

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Speaker 6: Thomas and Luke. We are in the throngs of winter here,

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Speaker 6: kicking off the new year. Obviously we're throwing our our cares,

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Speaker 6: our thoughts, our concerns to those battling wildfires.

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Speaker 5: In the Greater LA area.

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Speaker 6: But how the hell are you doing on the East

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we have well, I won't say the opposite problem.

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Speaker 7: We don't really have any problems at all like that.

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Speaker 7: But we're still digging ourselves out of snow because the

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Speaker 7: So everything is just frozen to the goddamn ground. But

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Speaker 7: you know what, as you indicated, those fires, man, they're horrific.

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Speaker 1: They're horrific, and they're tearing through.

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Speaker 7: I know a lot of people think it's because it

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Speaker 1: It's a stating. So we certainly send all of our

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Speaker 5: No doubt about it. Whether you're out of power or worse.

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Speaker 5: Please be safe. We're going to get through this together.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna have a great show for you though, just

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Speaker 6: the same because guess what, guys, MMA is back this weekend.

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Speaker 6: The UFC is back at the Apex. It's drn Heboss too,

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Speaker 6: It's Fight Night Fever. We're gonna get into it with

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Speaker 5: How are you, sir? I'm doing good.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good this morning. Guys, how are you great?

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Speaker 5: Thank you very nice. MK had a top of your

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Speaker 6: I think that's it, because we got big things to

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Speaker 6: I mean, why did we start late? People were like,

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Speaker 6: I meant Volkoff above Gone. Volkoff and Gone fought recently close.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dude, Volkov got screwed. Gon didn't win that fight.

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Speaker 7: I don't give a fuck what those judges said. You

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Speaker 7: Folkov won that fight. Volkov was better on that night,

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Speaker 7: it just seems really weird that they can't get this

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Speaker 5: I don't think they want to, dude.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he got skipped the shit out of in

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Speaker 6: even if that was for entertainment purposes, or to reward

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Speaker 6: Poeton for constantly bailing them out, giving him an action

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Speaker 5: I mean whatever.

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Speaker 6: But hey, more in photocom I'm sure we got to

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Speaker 7: If they make the fight at heavyweight between Poeton and Volkov,

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Speaker 8: Pereira minus two hundred, Volcan plus one seventy five.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 5: Bold?

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Speaker 8: Maybe I don't know. Did you didn't give me enough

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Speaker 5: But Luke, I gotta start off with this.

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Speaker 1: This is a really interesting one.

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Speaker 7: You note about the changes in weight, right, So she

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Speaker 1: At one twenty five. Right.

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Speaker 7: So to your point, she's had much greater success obviously

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Speaker 7: it's a natural questions like why is McKenzie during fighting

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Speaker 7: Amanda Hebas Again, it wasn't exactly like they were on

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Speaker 1: It's kind of.

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Speaker 7: A meeting again to like as a measuring stick of like,

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Speaker 7: where are we in all of this?

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Speaker 1: Where are we with you guys? Where are each of

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Speaker 7: They're both thirty one years of age, by the way,

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Speaker 7: there's been weight class changes for Amanda Hebus, but she's

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Speaker 7: Where are we with this division? Where are we with

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Speaker 7: with with a lot of what's coming on, what's going?

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Speaker 7: Let's put them back together almost six years later and

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Speaker 1: I saw to get the matchmaking here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, they're both very popular fighters, too charismatic,

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's quite right to call them very popular.

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Speaker 6: All right, Maybe I'm focusing too much on the personalities.

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Speaker 5: So it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 6: And darn did say this week that she has focused

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Speaker 6: so we'll see it. She comes in Durn ranked number

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Speaker 5: Luke, is it weird to you at all that Dern,

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Speaker 5: Rebus and not hebos.

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Speaker 7: Let me ask you a question. Do you think that

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Okay, now I'm returning the favor. Do you believe she

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I really don't know.

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Speaker 6: I just think it's a fun topic that people really

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Speaker 6: All right, let's show the picture here. So Mackenzie Durn

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Speaker 6: to Mackenzie Durn talking about how Mac is helping her

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Speaker 5: I'd be the biggest service dog I've ever seen.

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Speaker 9: I'm curious why you felt the need to bring you

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Speaker 3: Ah yeah, he's like security and emotional you know, emotional support.

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Speaker 9: So it's more about keeping things familiar, right, keeping the

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Speaker 1: I don't have much confidence.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'll be clear, like to the extent she

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Speaker 7: You would have seen progress some time ago that would

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Speaker 1: So could she win? Yes? Might she win?

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Speaker 6: Hebos plus one sixty for durn so Luke obviously the

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Speaker 6: central uh, you know, the piece of business from a

440
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Speaker 6: strategy standpoint, And darn said it herself at Media Day

441
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Speaker 6: this week. She said, obviously, I'm not hiding here. My

442
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Speaker 6: plan is to take Ebos down and work her on

443
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Speaker 6: the ground. She talked about really putting in the time

444
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Speaker 6: on takedowns and really looking to evolve in that area.

445
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Speaker 6: Does he Boss, as the betting favored here, have the

446
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Speaker 6: ability to keep this fight on the feet and do

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Speaker 6: you think he Boss could get the better of the

448
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Speaker 6: striking if that's the case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, in their first fight, let me go

450
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Speaker 1: back to it here very.

451
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Speaker 7: Quickly, if I may, when Amanda Hebos fought her. But

452
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Speaker 7: the first of all, Amanda Heboss has only ever given

453
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Speaker 7: up one takedown in a fight. Now, that's happened a

454
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Speaker 7: couple of times, but never more than one. That's the

455
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Speaker 7: most she's ever given up. When she fought Mackenzie during

456
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Speaker 7: the first time, she took two takedowns and gave up none.

457
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Speaker 7: I absolutely think she has the ability to take it

458
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Speaker 7: to the ground a lot of times. I mean, we

459
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Speaker 7: know the story, right, this is this is the frustrating

460
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Speaker 7: part about Mackenzie Durn. She overruns position, she over commits,

461
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Speaker 7: she walks right into stuff, and heboss has a decorated

462
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Speaker 7: judo background. In fact, the first takedown that she got

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Speaker 7: on during the first time they fought was Durn kind

464
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Speaker 7: of rushing into position and then it was a let

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Speaker 7: me think again, it was a harai guoshi. She got

466
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Speaker 7: her with and then threw her right over the top

467
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Speaker 7: and landed on top.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 7: How much you want to do that, because once you

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Speaker 7: get there, it's a very different ballgame. But you know,

471
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Speaker 7: the take, the one I'm trying to make is the

472
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Speaker 7: takedown is really going to be a function of what

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Speaker 7: kind of performance he boss turns in and she has

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Speaker 7: I think eighty five. I'll look it up here in

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Speaker 7: just a second. Yeah, actually, I can tell you now

476
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Speaker 7: her overall takedown defensive rate aman to Heboss, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 7: eighty five percent.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty strong. It's very good.

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Speaker 7: So like, could Mackenzie Durn get her down? Yeah, But

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Speaker 7: Mackenzie Durn's takedown accuracy is a whopping sixteen percent, and

481
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Speaker 7: even that's a little bit. I mean it's just abysmal.

482
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Speaker 7: So it guess what I mean, Like, could it happen?

483
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Speaker 7: Of course, of course, and if it does, he Boss

484
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Speaker 7: cannot hang with her on the ground. That's the reality.

485
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Speaker 7: But like, there's just so many gaps in Mackenzie Durham's

486
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Speaker 7: game that like it's like, I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 5: She's addressing it, though.

488
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Speaker 6: I liked her her sit down with the media this week,

489
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Speaker 6: she said, look, I've got an issue with sort of

490
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Speaker 6: drawing drama.

491
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Speaker 5: Into my life.

492
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Speaker 6: She also admitted in the past that as soon as

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Speaker 6: she gets hit with a big punch, she gets that

494
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Speaker 6: red feeling where she just kind of loses control the

495
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Speaker 6: game plan and just wants to come back brawling.

496
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Speaker 5: But to be fair, Luke on the flip side.

497
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Speaker 6: And even though I don't think you can fully hold

498
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Speaker 6: the first fight in its terms and the results in

499
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Speaker 6: terms of how this one will be not just because

500
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Speaker 6: it's so many years later, but let's be fair. Dern

501
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 6: readily admits she shouldn't have come back that early from pregnancy,

502
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Speaker 6: wasn't in her normal great shape. She's in tremendous conditioning

503
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 6: shape the last few fights. So I think we're gonna

504
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Speaker 6: see a different story. But that same theme applies to Dern.

505
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Speaker 6: I think it also applies to Hebos. They too quickly

506
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Speaker 6: get off of their game plans. They love to fight,

507
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Speaker 6: they love the brawl. They've got, you know, a tough,

508
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 6: recuperative nature to themselves. Maybe this comes down not as

509
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 6: much of a sloppy brawl, but who can be more

510
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Speaker 6: composed and stick.

511
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Speaker 5: To the game plan.

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Speaker 6: We do have sound long on Luka if you could

513
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Speaker 6: throw the second sound of Hebos talking exactly about that,

514
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Speaker 6: really trying to focus. I'm listening to her coaches and

515
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Speaker 6: she's noticing a difference when she does that.

516
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Speaker 10: Sometimes Ni, as athlete, I just think with my heart,

517
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Speaker 10: like okay, let's go, let's go. But sometimes I need

518
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Speaker 10: to think with the brain like you did three year,

519
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 10: three fights in less than one year. So hecovery, hicovery,

520
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Speaker 10: not just the body, but the technically let's get better.

521
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Speaker 10: And I learned that I need you listen the coaches

522
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Speaker 10: and my brain too.

523
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Speaker 5: So look, part of that recovery she was mentioning was that.

524
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 6: Her team forced her to take her father Barllo, her

525
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Speaker 6: father Marcelo, with the greatest Father's Day tattoo ever, by

526
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Speaker 6: the way of Emily Whitmyer getting choked out, you know.

527
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Speaker 1: This is a tattoo for vio Letta. I don't know

528
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Speaker 1: if you know that I've ever explained that I did

529
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Speaker 1: not know that this is this is a tattoo for

530
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Speaker 1: vio Letsak. I took that's a true story very quickly.

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Speaker 1: I took h there.

532
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Speaker 7: They found coins in Colombia from pre Columbian history, like

533
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Speaker 7: old old like centuries old money, and I took the

534
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Speaker 7: design from it and I put it on a letter

535
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Speaker 7: V and I put it here.

536
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Speaker 1: So this is for her.

537
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Speaker 7: So I'm not he ain't the only dad getting tattoos

538
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Speaker 7: for his daughter. I want to be clear about that.

539
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Speaker 6: Well, I was gonna say, you just triggered me to

540
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Speaker 6: now want to interview him with a translator so I

541
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Speaker 6: can show him your father daughter tattoo and see if

542
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 6: he clowns at the same But in all seriousness here

543
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 6: for Hebos. Look, I think this is the right mindset

544
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Speaker 6: to have when she does stick to that game plan

545
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 6: and fight a little bit more focused in Conservatively, she's

546
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Speaker 6: a very good athlete, she's tough, she's got a good

547
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Speaker 6: striking game, so this will be very interesting, Luke, as

548
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Speaker 6: will the stakes. I mentioned the rank six and eighth

549
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 6: coming in respectively during Ranked Higher, but this division is

550
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 6: going through some changes here. Wayley only fought once this year,

551
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 6: Suarez didn't fight at all. Finally we're going to see

552
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Speaker 6: the two of them in early twenty five in a

553
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Speaker 6: title fight. But the rest of this top ten is

554
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 6: in almost a transitional point. If you had to argue

555
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 6: who was the next highest rngked most deserving title challenger,

556
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Speaker 6: it might be Werner Jangi Robo, who's on a nice

557
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 6: win streak. But Luke Janji ROBO's last two losses came

558
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Speaker 6: against Mackenzie Durd and Amanda Hebos, So you do have

559
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 6: to wonder whether this is a sneaky number one contenders

560
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 6: fight in hiding, And we do have Amanda Hebos talking

561
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Speaker 6: about this this idea that if either one looks great

562
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 6: on Saturday night, maybe they can get the next call.

563
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Speaker 4: If we do see the belt change, do you think

564
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 4: that Walley deserves a rematch or would you like to

565
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: see somebody else get that nod first?

566
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 5: Should the belt change hands?

567
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Speaker 10: I think you move the category, eh, Willie Zang? If

568
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 10: she wins, I'm.

569
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Speaker 5: Here, don't rematch is steatly?

570
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Speaker 10: No, No, there is other girls well.

571
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Speaker 4: Speaking that you mentioned, Werna's name got mentioned. You know,

572
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Speaker 4: I feel like she's been waiting around for a while.

573
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Speaker 4: If she was, do you feel that she's deserving to

574
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 4: get the winner of that match or would you do

575
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 4: you rather see that this fight with you and Mackenzie

576
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 4: is the is a contender bout?

577
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 10: I think she needs to wait this fight because we

578
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 10: both deserve that too.

579
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: Awesome.

580
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 5: Look, here's the question I gotta ask about this.

581
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Speaker 6: Not only did janderob have recent defeats to the two

582
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 6: of them, but Jenjeroba's got a more impressive win streak

583
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 6: of late. He Bos says, yeah, I should slide in

584
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 6: and get the shot. Dern actually said this week that

585
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 6: she thinks the winner of this fight on Saturday would

586
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 6: need one to two more wins to deserve.

587
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 5: A title shot. Would it be fair to janjer Roba

588
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 5: if the winner got the pass.

589
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 7: In this case, no, neither of these women deserve a

590
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 7: title shot, not with this win or even the next one.

591
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 7: This is a fucking absurd I mean, it's a relevant

592
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 7: conversation to have for the reasons you articulated, but it's

593
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Speaker 7: also kind of observed the rank six and eight and

594
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Speaker 7: even I mean BC, Like, even if they were to

595
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 7: win or get a title shot, you're gonna pick any

596
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 7: of them to give Joan Wi Lee a tough fight,

597
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 7: like she's gonna beat the living fuck out of both

598
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 7: of them.

599
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 5: I mean again, Twarez may win the title first.

600
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Speaker 7: Luke, Okay, don't no, I understand, but I'm simply saying,

601
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 7: imagine it was Jong Way Lee, like, get the fuck

602
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 7: out of here with this like that is nonsensical.

603
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: No to me. Again, this is to me a bit

604
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: of a moment where the Ultimate.

605
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 7: Fighting Championship is looking at what they have in this division,

606
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 7: making some plans for twenty twenty five, and then asking

607
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 7: both of them, where are you two headed? And I

608
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 7: think this will give a bit of a clarifying answer.

609
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 7: I don't think it's exactly like we need a title shot.

610
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously they want to create contenders as best

611
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 7: they can. But that's not the most pressing thing. The

612
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 7: most pressing thing.

613
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: Is are you going to turn into something? That's really

614
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: the question.

615
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 6: I feel like you're about to tell me that your

616
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 6: prediction is that they fight to a sloppy not following

617
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 6: their game plan, but exciting draw in neither advances further

618
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 6: in the rankings.

619
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Speaker 7: Does that sound Does that sound like a deeply unlikely

620
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 7: possibility to you?

621
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Speaker 5: I mean it could be. Why don't you tell us

622
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 5: what you think will happen?

623
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Speaker 1: Kebas should win, should being the operative word here again.

624
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Speaker 1: During is dangerous on the ground, not a soul on

625
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 1: that division can hang with her whatsoever? I mean, they

626
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: can neutralize her maybe, but they can't. They can't go

627
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: move for move with her. That's really not gonna work.

628
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 7: But on the feet, dude, she takes risks because then

629
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 7: she's durable and all all these things make her dangerous.

630
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 7: But they make her hit a ble, they make her vulnerable,

631
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Speaker 7: they get her out of position.

632
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Speaker 1: I she should she dangerous dog, a dangerous opponent, but

633
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: eminently beatable. That is the way I would consider her.

634
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 5: Dude, I'm gonna do it. I'm going to do it.

635
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Dern here. I don't look. I already

636
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 5: predicted she'd Oh thank you.

637
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 6: I already predicted she'd have like another split year, you know,

638
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 6: one win, then step up and get a loss, and

639
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 6: we'd be in the same position. But Dern is almost

640
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 6: It hasn't been every other fight like he Boss win loss,

641
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 6: win loss. There's been two losses in a row, but

642
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 6: then bounce back.

643
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 5: But there is Almos.

644
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 10: You know.

645
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 6: It's not necessarily comparable to the Rosnami unis every fourth

646
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 6: fight theory that Pat Barry has that actually kind of

647
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 6: matches up. But I feel like she is due as

648
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 6: good as he Boss is, And even though she's better

649
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 6: at one fifteen, she's not a finisher.

650
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 5: They both love to get lured into brawls.

651
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 6: I wonder, I wonder here if DRNK can do enough

652
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 6: to get the decision. But also, Luke, I wonder, even

653
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 6: though I fully agree with what you said about neither

654
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 6: one really deserving it here, Dern's gonna get the title

655
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 6: shot if she wins. I know it, and you know

656
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 6: it too, Luke, Okay, deal with it. She will, especially

657
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Speaker 6: if Suarez beat Wili. They're gonna do Suarez versus.

658
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Speaker 7: Dern and you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, if Suarez wins,

659
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Speaker 7: it's a different ballgame. I'll admit to that because you know,

660
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Speaker 7: it kind of works putting Dern and Swarez together because

661
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Speaker 7: in part, you're daring Swarez to take her down, you know, which, again,

662
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Speaker 7: could Suarez take Durn down like like.

663
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Speaker 1: Taking candy from a baby.

664
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Speaker 7: I don't think there's really any issue with that, but

665
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Speaker 7: once it happens, and then then it's a very different ballgame.

666
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Speaker 7: I agree, I agree that if Suarez wins, it changes

667
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Speaker 7: the complexion. I just think that this is I think

668
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Speaker 7: half of Mackenzie Dern analysis from people is just wish casting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's just.

670
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Speaker 7: Or you wish for her to be able to really

671
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Speaker 7: settle into our expectations of her.

672
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Speaker 1: And again at times she does. At times you're like,

673
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Speaker 1: write that right there, that's what I was looking for, But.

674
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Speaker 7: It's so fucking few and far between that it's like,

675
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Speaker 7: are we actually building a sustainable ladder to development to

676
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Speaker 7: get there? And that's the part what I just don't

677
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Speaker 7: really see the evidence for. I hope you see. I

678
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Speaker 7: hope that you are. I mean, it's quite genuinely, I

679
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Speaker 7: think it's better for MMA if stars break out. Twenty

680
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Speaker 7: four was a good year for ta Porio, It was

681
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Speaker 7: a good year for Poetson. It was a good year

682
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Speaker 7: for a couple of people bluckly blah blah blah. But

683
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Speaker 7: like we didn't get like a bunch of star power

684
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Speaker 7: built Poton being kind of the exception in to Porio

685
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Speaker 7: to an extent as well, but even then just not much,

686
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Speaker 7: not much was moving, especially in the women's game. Kayla

687
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Speaker 7: Harrison came around, but was like star power generated no

688
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Speaker 7: So like we we it would be good for women's

689
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Speaker 7: MM if durn won and then had a match up

690
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Speaker 7: with you know, Tatao Scores or whatever.

691
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Speaker 1: So I hope these things happen. I'm just just a

692
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: lot of wish casting, I see it. I don't know.

693
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Speaker 6: Speaking of the other side of analyzing Dern's fights and

694
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Speaker 6: people focusing too much on the inappropriate side, did you

695
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Speaker 6: see al Jamain Sterling and his fiance put out a

696
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Speaker 6: one hour podcast yesterday ranking the hottest UFC female fighters.

697
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Speaker 5: I'm not doing a bit.

698
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Speaker 1: It was a fucking hour, Yes it was. Who's the

699
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Speaker 1: audience for that?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

701
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Speaker 6: In the entire horned up the audience, you know, I

702
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Speaker 6: mean obviously.

703
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Speaker 7: You know, I could not imagine I could not imagine

704
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Speaker 7: doing something like that.

705
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Speaker 1: That's that's I was shocked.

706
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Speaker 5: I thought it was a joke.

707
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Speaker 6: I thought it was like someone you know, did a

708
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Speaker 6: did one of these memes that made it look like it.

709
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Speaker 5: I clicked on it, like what were like?

710
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Speaker 1: How were they? What was the criteria?

711
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Speaker 8: Like?

712
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Speaker 6: You know, I skimmed it for like a grand total

713
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Speaker 6: of about sixty seconds because it was but it wasn't

714
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Speaker 6: like over the top provocative. It was just like, oh,

715
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Speaker 6: she's really cute. Yeah, I like the way she does

716
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Speaker 6: her hair like that.

717
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Speaker 5: Oh yes.

718
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Speaker 7: Once again, when people have bad impressions of MMA and

719
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Speaker 7: who likes it, they're entirely justified.

720
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Speaker 1: So just remember no.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: All right, Le's let's quickly look at the rest of

723
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Speaker 6: this Carter Colemane event is a welterweight till well not

724
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Speaker 6: overly sexy, but the all action Santiago Ponzinibbio will be

725
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Speaker 6: a minus one forty two betting favorite against the plus

726
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Speaker 6: one twenty Carlston Harris.

727
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Speaker 5: The odds are close. It could be a banger.

728
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Speaker 6: I don't think the stakes are high, Luke, how would

729
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Speaker 6: you rank this matchup, and really the card in general

730
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Speaker 6: in terms of depth and entertainment.

731
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Speaker 7: Fact, there are interesting parts of this card, which I

732
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Speaker 7: know we say more generally, but I actually can articulate what.

733
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Speaker 1: They are if you want against that in just a moment.

734
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Speaker 7: This comin event, and I'm going to be as clear

735
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Speaker 7: as I possibly can be with the audience.

736
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Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about this comin. Yeah, I

737
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Speaker 1: mean great.

738
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Speaker 7: So I don't have anything against Santiago Ponzinibia, I don't

739
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 7: have anything against Carlston Harris. It'll be as exciting probably

740
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Speaker 7: as long as it lasts. It means nothing. It takes

741
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 7: us nowhere, it doesn't signify anything. I don't give a

742
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 7: fuck about this one.

743
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 6: Well, Luke Ponzi is thirty eight, he's lost two in

744
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Speaker 6: a row, four of his last five and five of

745
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Speaker 6: his last seven.

746
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Speaker 1: Who to I mean sorry, I'm not trying to be

747
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Speaker 1: a dick, but I don't. I don't care. I don't care.

748
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Speaker 5: Harris is thirty seven and coming off a knockout loss.

749
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Speaker 5: So yeah, it is. It's a Apex special for us

750
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Speaker 5: here I had twenty twenty five.

751
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Speaker 1: But there are gems on this card. Can we talk

752
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: about them?

753
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 5: I would love to.

754
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Speaker 7: Okay, So first of all, you can actually give a

755
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Speaker 7: bit of a nod to the Cesar al Mada fight

756
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Speaker 7: with Abdul Razzak al Hassen. I think there's something to

757
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Speaker 7: be said for him al Mada six and one kind

758
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Speaker 7: of coming up a little bit in the middleweight circuit,

759
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Speaker 7: But that's really not the one that I'm focused on.

760
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 7: There are three other fights I would say that I'm

761
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Speaker 7: most focused on. Number one. How about Chris Curtis taking

762
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Speaker 7: on Roman kapol Off. We had a bit of a

763
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Speaker 7: weird thing where he was accusing them of spying on him.

764
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 7: Turn out there was nothing to that. But forget all

765
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Speaker 7: that Chris Curtis has said doesn't want to lose two

766
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Speaker 7: in a row. I've talked to Chris Curtis privately about,

767
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Speaker 7: you know, some of his you know, what are the

768
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 7: strengths and weaknesses of his fight style? Right, And one

769
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Speaker 7: of the things that I think is one of his

770
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Speaker 7: strengths is actually his body punching. But I don't know

771
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Speaker 7: to what extent that actually translates into judges understanding what

772
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Speaker 7: he's doing, but and how much impact he's actually having. Also,

773
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Speaker 7: I think cage cutting has been a bit of a

774
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 7: pro for him. He can do it, but just doesn't.

775
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 7: And copy Loov has limits but is a hard nosed,

776
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 7: in your face striker. He's going to want to operate

777
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 7: more at kickboxing range. And then obviously Chris Curtis is

778
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 7: going to because he wants to touch you to.

779
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: The body, is going to be a lot closer with

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Speaker 1: his fists.

781
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Speaker 7: So what I mean is in terms of distancing, this

782
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 7: is a really really interesting fight about who's going to dominate,

783
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 7: what space and what they're going to be able to

784
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 7: get off. I also think that Copylov is a bit

785
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 7: more of an explosive striker than a guy like Curtis.

786
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 7: Curtis will more of a setup kind of not exactly volume,

787
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 7: but more rhythm striker. That's a really really interesting, fun

788
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 7: and potentially very violent middleweight clash.

789
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: Love that one.

790
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me just show you what the odds there.

791
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 5: Chris Curtis plus two hundred.

792
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 6: He has just one win in his last five, a

793
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 6: couple losses in a no contest, but copy Lov minus

794
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 6: two forty five and look, he's won five of six,

795
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 6: with the only loss being the submission to Fluffy Hernandez,

796
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 6: So he's certainly rising at the moment.

797
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then Fluffy Hernandez is getting chewed up a

798
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 7: little bit before. He just took over copy loov is

799
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Speaker 7: fucking dangerous man. He's a hard nosed guy, really.

800
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 5: Really Russian hammer. Right, let me put it in the cupboard.

801
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, So that's one to pay

802
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 7: attention to. People have written this is true, and what

803
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 7: I'm about to say is very true. People have written

804
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 7: me about this next guy, Austin Bashi thirteen and oh,

805
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 7: coming off the Contender series. He's taken on Christian Rodriguez.

806
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 7: Christian Rodriguez, recall, is the guy that upset the apple

807
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 7: cart against the Habsburg.

808
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Speaker 1: What's his name?

809
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Speaker 7: L Yes, yes, Chewie, I forgot about Jewey, Yes, the

810
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Speaker 7: chewee Wee's guy. Yeah, Bashi thirteen and oh. This will

811
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 7: be his full on UFC debut. I had multiple people

812
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 7: write me about this kid, saying, whatever you think about

813
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 7: people coming off the Contender series, look out for him.

814
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: One was a training partner of his.

815
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Speaker 7: One was another guy who just was a big It

816
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Speaker 7: seemed like it seemed like a booster, but both of

817
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 7: them were over the fucking moon about him. Apparently he

818
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 7: can wrestle. He can do great jiu jitsu, apparently he can.

819
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 7: He's got a big punching power as well. Like he

820
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 7: seems to be somebody who who's got a significant amount

821
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 7: of promise. But as we saw, Christian Rodriguez is nobody

822
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 7: to take lightly. So that's a really fun, interesting contest.

823
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 6: So that's Bashie a minus two seventy favorite against the

824
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 6: plus two to twenty Christian Rodriguez. Long, I'll look quickly.

825
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 6: You're usually high up on these undercard guys. Is is

826
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 6: Bashie somebody that you've been looking at?

827
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Speaker 8: So I also, like Luke, have been hearing a lot

828
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 8: of hype about Bashie, did a little deep dive on

829
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Speaker 8: his opponents. He fought a guy last year who was

830
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Speaker 8: fifteen and thirty three. I mean, who were we fighting here?

831
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Speaker 1: Okay, but if you're fighting on the regional scene, bro,

832
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: that is part of just what happens, right.

833
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 8: But I took Sea Rod here, and I also took

834
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Speaker 8: Chris Curtis in the last fight Dogs all day.

835
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you know what, I'm not making any

836
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: claims about the betting.

837
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 7: I'm just telling you which fights. I like Bashie Rodriguez

838
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Speaker 7: fucking love this fight. Another one you really got to

839
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 7: pay attention to that is actually very very important here

840
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 7: b see much further down the list is going to

841
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Speaker 7: be Jacoby Smith, a de former Division one All American

842
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 7: I believe, nine to zero undefeated, taking on a guy

843
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 7: by the name of Preston Parsons. Parsons obviously has fought

844
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 7: in the UFC before. Jacoby Smith also coming off of

845
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 7: the Contender Series where he won in the second round

846
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 7: via ground and pound. He looks to be the real deal.

847
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 7: He has interesting ways to snatch guys off of their base.

848
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 7: He can take the back, very athletics, seems to be

849
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 7: very naturally gifted, like some guys have good Division IE

850
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 7: wrestling styles but they don't quite translate over to MMA.

851
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 7: He looks like he's got it all lined up and

852
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 7: ready to go. But again, taking on someone who is

853
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 7: not wet behind the ears, a guy who's not nearly

854
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 7: twenty fights in the game. That's a fun one to

855
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 7: pay attention to if I can. And then lastly BC

856
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 7: another one that is kind of worth keeping your eye on,

857
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 7: maybe just as like a fun ass banger.

858
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: Alert bang it.

859
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 7: Puna Hale Soriano taking on Eroshmetish. Yeah, yeah, dude, those

860
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 7: two are gonna kill each other.

861
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 6: Shut down the Dirty Bird violently in that first round

862
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 6: stoppage of Tim Mean so he's a minus two eighteen favorite.

863
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 6: The Serbian Euros medic, but we know Poona Haley can bang,

864
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 6: so yeah, yeah, I certainly have that one circled as well.

865
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Speaker 7: And then also Victoria du To Covid taking off Atima

866
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Speaker 7: Klein probably some fun. There's another's So there's some lother

867
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 7: ones too. You could point to Marco Tulio or u

868
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Speaker 7: Twelo Tulio. I'm not trying to say his name. He's

869
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 7: pretty good on this. He's taken on Ehre Potieria. So

870
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 7: this is what I mentioned. Like, there's a couple of

871
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 7: ones you could pick the ones I like. I like

872
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 7: Curtis Coppolov. I like the debut of Jacoby Smith, I

873
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 7: like the debut of Bashie. Pay attention to those for sure.

874
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 6: I wonder if Euros is gonna need a medic after

875
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 6: this fight, you know what I'm saying?

876
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, Oh yeah, you're you're worse than Osama bin Laden.

877
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 5: Look last chance on this undercard?

878
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 6: Anything else we should be looking at while we listen

879
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 6: to your podcast on Saturday.

880
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 8: I feel like Luke ran through him, c Rod and

881
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 8: Chris Curtis and my dogs of the week.

882
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: Otherwise I got a long parlay on the main card.

883
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 6: Tune it oh, No, no one does more betting and

884
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 6: bong analysis like.

885
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 5: Long Island and Luke Nocita. So shout out to.

886
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: The big the intersection between bong's and and MMA betting.

887
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: Right there it is.

888
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 5: Let's go to topic number two.

889
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 6: And it was a New York Times report this week

890
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 6: that seems to be bringing more understanding to that elephant

891
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 6: in the room in boxing in some form mixed martial arts,

892
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 6: and that's ZUFA boxing, the idea that Dana White, UFC

893
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 6: and parent companies TKO and Endeavor could add boxing to

894
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 6: the TKO landscape, which includes of course UFC WWE and

895
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 6: increased interest in grappling in the new year. And now

896
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 6: this the report from the New York Times says that

897
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 6: TKO and the Nation of Saudi Arabia are planning to

898
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 6: combine with an announcement coming in the next few weeks.

899
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 6: They're collective forces the money from Saudi and of course

900
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 6: the organization, intel and execution of the UFC to launch

901
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 6: a boxing Prospect League Now, according to the report, this

902
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 6: would not be big name fighters champions, It would be

903
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 6: young prospects. Maybe so they can control the payment, you know,

904
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 6: the salaries. We can speculate on that. But Luke, if

905
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 6: you remember the msg UFC pay per view with John

906
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 6: Jones and Steepe in November and Yasir Al Rumayan, if

907
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 6: I'm pronouncing that the governor of Saudi Arabia's Public Investment

908
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 6: Fund was precariously sitting next to Trump and Dana had

909
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 6: a big face on camera and those big moments by

910
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 6: the cage, John Jones dancing for Donald Trump. So we

911
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 6: thought that could be a precursor to something. According to

912
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 6: this report, TKO could earn thirty million per year from

913
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 6: Saudi and management fees, and then significantly more in hosting

914
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 6: fees for fight cards that take place in Saudi, up

915
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 6: to twenty million per card. They're also has plans for

916
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 6: cards to be in the US, across Europe and possibly

917
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 6: other Arab nations. No comment yet from TKO UFC whether

918
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 6: this is happening, but we knew something was happening, Luke,

919
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 6: We don't know the network. Although the story did speculate

920
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 6: that TKO could look to bundle UFC with boxing as

921
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 6: part of their new TV deal. Finally, it seems like

922
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 6: we see what they're planning.

923
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 5: Will it work? Will you care? What are your thoughts

924
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 5: about this?

925
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely gonna pay attention.

926
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 7: You've got important power players inside of sports and frankly

927
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 7: sports and frankly, I mean, it's not exaggerationing on the

928
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 7: Saudi Arabian side, like world governments being involved. I don't

929
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 7: know how you could at least not pay some attention

930
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 7: to that if you are in this business working, right,

931
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 7: I mean, you just kind of have to see what

932
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 7: this is going to be about. Once again, BC, it's

933
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 7: one of these things where it's like we only got

934
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 7: a few details. There hasn't been been an announcement. We

935
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 7: have to have some kind of a measured response. So

936
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 7: a big part of me is kind of just going

937
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 7: to say, let's just see what they do, right. But

938
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 7: I guess I would have two things that I'm going

939
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 7: to look at first, to what extent is this partnership

940
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 7: going to be designed in some kind of way to

941
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 7: circumvent the ALI Act. Now here's what I mean by that.

942
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 7: When I say circumvent, I don't mean break the law.

943
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 7: That's really not what I mean. What I mean is

944
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 7: the UFC understands the ballgame. If you're going to operate

945
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 7: in any individual territory, you have to play ball by

946
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 7: the rules, and sometimes that can mean having relationships with

947
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 7: the people who make the rules so that the rules

948
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 7: are a little bit more favorable. But you got to

949
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 7: obey the rules. I give the UFC credit, they don't

950
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 7: really fuck around with that. So they're going to obey

951
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 7: the rules. But the question is where are they going

952
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 7: to put this product, how who is going to be

953
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 7: in control of it, where is it going to be staged,

954
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 7: what are going to be the relevant regulatory authorities in place?

955
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 7: And to what extent are they going to operate with

956
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 7: inside or outside the boundaries of the Aliact. I don't

957
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 7: know the answers to any of these questions, but it's

958
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 7: something I'm paying attention to.

959
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: Please.

960
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 6: I will say this as much as that that would

961
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 6: should be a concern because that that that the ALI

962
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 6: Act is there for a reason in boxing, although maybe

963
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 6: it was there more to prevent promoter somebody from trying

964
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 6: to be a promoter and manager at the same time

965
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 6: for a fighter which is competing interests. But al Hamon

966
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 6: kind of laid the blueprint when he launched PBC in

967
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 6: twenty fifteen on how to do this legally. Don't forget

968
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 6: when he did launch PBC in twenty fifteen, he got

969
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 6: sued by all the other big time promoters who are

970
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 6: saying the same thing. You're violating the ALI Act. You're

971
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 6: trying to build a monopoly. Because al had time buys

972
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 6: on all the major networks to sort of push back

973
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 6: his competition. But what al did was just have a

974
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 6: stable of promoters that work for him, even though he's

975
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 6: technically the one calling the shots. Couldn't Dana just use

976
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 6: Tom Loffler like he's doing in the Calum Smith Calum

977
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 6: Walsh excuse me experiment right now in terms of just

978
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 6: bringing on promoters. So he's, yes, I guess, sort of

979
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 6: managing the fighters and doing the matchmaking. But I don't

980
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 6: feel like that's something that is a thing anymore.

981
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 5: Am I wrong?

982
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what

983
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: they're going to do. I genuinely don't know.

984
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 7: But these are people like again, I always say this, like,

985
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 7: why is Dana White involved in power slap? Is it

986
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 7: because he actually thinks slapping is all that great. I mean,

987
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 7: he might, I don't know, But part of it is

988
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 7: because it's largely unregulated. These are guys that think that

989
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 7: the problem with boxing is that there are regulations in

990
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 7: place that make people have to share power. To what

991
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 7: extent are they going to operate in this within those

992
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 7: confines or are they going to tox They're going to try

993
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 7: and to operate beyond those confines, again under a different

994
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 7: regulatory scheme that is more favorable, not breaking the law,

995
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 7: just finding a place that is more favorable to their interests.

996
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 7: I don't think it's an idle consideration to at least

997
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 7: have that. But the second thing I think is actually

998
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 7: a little bit more interesting, which is they're making it

999
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 7: a prospect show, and folks are like, oh, okay, well

1000
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 7: they're not trying to sign you know, Canelo, they're not

1001
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 7: trying to sign Bud Crawford, they're not trying to sign

1002
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 7: too Fimo Lopez. So this is you know, like to

1003
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 7: what extent they're going to have a footprinted boxing? But like,

1004
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 7: let's not be naive about this. Why would they be

1005
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 7: signing prospects For a lot of reasons. One is they're

1006
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 7: going to be cheaper, but also in case any of

1007
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 7: them turn into pay review stars, you can lock them

1008
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 7: up with deals very early. Consider what the Ultimate Fighters

1009
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 7: model was exactly. Find guys early on, ready to take

1010
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 7: some risk, ready to accept a different kind of opportunity,

1011
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 7: who are looking to level up, and then get them

1012
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 7: in a deal for an exorbitant amount of fights at all,

1013
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 7: you know, fairly low price, and then call it a

1014
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 7: six figure deal. I don't know if I'm going to

1015
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 7: give them a six figure deal BC. That's another point

1016
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 7: I'm trying to But the point I am trying to

1017
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 7: make is you get guys before they are expensive, while

1018
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 7: they are cheap, and then hold them into this long

1019
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 7: contracts and that's where the Aliact comes into play. Okay,

1020
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 7: but the length nature of the contracts that the ALI

1021
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 7: Act is least intended to prevent.

1022
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 6: No, in that regard, You're right, and that's still very

1023
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 6: a viable situation. I just meant that everyone sued alt

1024
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 6: him and then he got cleared in every court case,

1025
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 6: and they're like, no, he's doing it the legal way. Look,

1026
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 6: it is exciting for all the reasons you mentioned the

1027
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 6: idea of bringing some level of organization obviously on the

1028
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 6: smaller scale with the prospects and sort of ingrading them

1029
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 6: through or whatever in terms of into the UFC style,

1030
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 6: which I guess in theory would mean smaller pay. But

1031
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 6: I think also, Luke, you know, Saudi in general is

1032
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 6: gonna have to figure out if they're going to be

1033
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 6: in boxing for the long run, how to make money

1034
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 6: and make the finances sustainable.

1035
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 7: Right, yes, fine, Does TKO or the Sovereign Wealth Fund

1036
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 7: look like people that are hurting for cash?

1037
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 6: No, nor do they look like people that care fighters

1038
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 6: are making a certain amount.

1039
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 7: You're talking about the biggest entity in combat sports and

1040
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 7: Saudi money, Like, holy fucking shit, if anybody can afford to,

1041
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 7: uh you know, put a little extra steam on it,

1042
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 7: it's it's them too. Uh yeah, I understand obviously, even

1043
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 7: if they got involved, they would want it to be

1044
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 7: financially profitable. And again that's where it goes into getting

1045
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 7: the prospects not full on automatic contenders.

1046
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: But like, dude, you how many times can you listen

1047
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: to the rhetoric.

1048
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 7: Of Dana Why talk about how bad boxing is and

1049
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 7: how it's broken and blah blah blah, and then see

1050
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 7: he wants to get into it, but with someone else's money.

1051
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: And then also at the prospect level, like you know,

1052
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: I think you can't.

1053
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 7: We cannot impugne everyone's motives, but we cannot be naive

1054
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 7: about it either.

1055
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 5: Well, this does confirm everything.

1056
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 6: Mark Shapiro of TKO has been saying in interview business

1057
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 6: interviews that they would only get into boxing if it

1058
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 6: was someone else's money, if they were brought in as

1059
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 6: like a manager consultant to run the operation. Look, as

1060
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 6: a boxing fan, also a journalist, also a broadcaster, but

1061
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 6: as a boxing fan, I am excited long term to

1062
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 6: see what this could be. If there's an ultimate fighter

1063
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 6: type you know, boxing equivalent here. I mean, look, this

1064
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 6: model does work twenty years ago, the Contender Season one,

1065
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 6: Sergio Moore, I mean it worked, right, I mean there

1066
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 6: is an idea of presenting the sport a certain way

1067
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 6: that connects with people.

1068
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 5: Could we what if they match aggressively?

1069
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 6: What if there's an incentive like there is in the

1070
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 6: UFC to get knockouts in battle? Could this be something fun,

1071
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 6: you know, to add to the boxing landscape. It is

1072
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 6: interesting to see what.

1073
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 5: It will be. So we'll see if the report is true.

1074
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 6: I've always said if Dana ends up coming into boxing,

1075
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 6: it can't be the way he thought it would be

1076
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 6: back in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, when he was wearing

1077
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 6: the Zoofo boxing shirt and thinking he's just gonna walk

1078
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 6: in and become a major player. Right, It's not that

1079
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 6: easy to have that level of control. But starting at

1080
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 6: the grassroots level, this is interesting. So we're all going

1081
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 6: to be watching to see what happens. Luke quickly though,

1082
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 6: same week though, that Dana White was added to the

1083
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 6: board of directors at NETA. So it's not just being

1084
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 6: best friends with Trump, I mean TKO in general. With

1085
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 6: the connections to the Saudi government, the connections to the

1086
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 6: U s government. This is gangster, the way they've set

1087
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Speaker 6: themselves up to push their own interests forward in about

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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I mean, you know, I just I cannot

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Speaker 7: believe the the enormous amount of punishment and reputational harm

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Speaker 7: Dana White had to suffer for exchanging blows with his wife. Remember,

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Speaker 7: he told us not to defend him, so I won't,

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Speaker 7: And he told us like he was gonna have to

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Speaker 7: live with the scarlet letter of shame for this boy.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I could use some of that.

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Speaker 7: If it puts me on the board of a company

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Speaker 7: with a market cap of one point five fucking trillion dollars,

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Speaker 7: I could use some of that.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Well, I wouldn't encourage you to take on some because

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Speaker 6: I did a wonderful city thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm simply saying, if if that's the punishment for bad acts,

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Speaker 1: just give me the punishment. I want the punishment to

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Speaker 1: be fair.

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Speaker 6: You do have two marriages, your your romantic one and

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Speaker 6: your editorial one with me, So maybe we get to

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Speaker 6: a point if we could say, because you know people,

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Speaker 6: it was like, Luke, if we get to two hundred

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Speaker 6: thousand subs, will you told me an embarrassing story or

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Speaker 6: show me your naval tattoo? What about if we get

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Speaker 6: to five hundred thousand mk sums you and I getting

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Speaker 6: a power slap one on one in Meadow Larks Studios,

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Speaker 6: and that's that's slap in your your editorial life.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, then we can use that to be on

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Speaker 7: the board of like I don't know, uh TikTok, if

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Speaker 7: they don't get fucking shut down or something.

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Speaker 6: Behind here it is loosely related to this was a

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Speaker 6: brunch boxing report Wednesday that ESPN may not be done

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Speaker 6: with boxing altogether and may not be done with Top Rank,

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Speaker 6: a report that the two r N talks to possibly resign,

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Speaker 6: although in the report was ESPN wanting Top Rank to match.

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Speaker 5: Make a little bit more aggressively.

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Speaker 6: So it will be interesting to see, Luke, there's a

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Speaker 6: certainly an argument to be had for the future of

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Speaker 6: boxing and you know, the US or North America in

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Speaker 6: general to have you know, ESPN still be a power

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Speaker 6: player in this.

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Speaker 5: So that was encouraging to see.

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Speaker 7: Definitely, I mean, do think about it if they're gone.

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Speaker 7: If ESPN were to be gone from boxing, there'd be

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Speaker 7: no major broadcaster in the United States showing boxing anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane. That's never happened literally in the course

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Speaker 1: of my life, neither yours, and.

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Speaker 6: I mean outside of Amazon Prime doing the PBC pay

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Speaker 10: Here and there.

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Speaker 7: I know, okay, that's not nothing, but that's not like

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Speaker 7: a traditional sports broadcaster. I mean, it's sort of a

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Speaker 7: very new thing and it doesn't like, I don't know

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Speaker 7: if there's not a lot of muscle behind it, like

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Speaker 7: it airs it, but they don't do like a lot

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Speaker 7: of promotion on the deal. That's scary, dude, It's really

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Speaker 7: fucking scary. I mean, boxing had this insane twenty twenty three, so.

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Speaker 1: Did we then? And then it all came crumbling. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I'm staying on ESPN. Whether it's the top rank or

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of things that will develop over the

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Speaker 6: next six to eight months. We'll see what happens, Luke.

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Speaker 6: Playoffs we don't normally talk about in combat sports unless

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Speaker 5: But the playoffs are here in the National Football League,

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Speaker 6: your Washington Commanders are making noise. What are we thinking

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Speaker 7: And in fact, the last time that the Commanders were

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Speaker 1: I could be high. I'm not. I can't. I can't recall.

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Speaker 7: But the point I'm trying to make is it's Jayden

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Speaker 1: But Jade Daniels.

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Speaker 5: Crown is his. That's who we all know. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Hey, let's go into topic number three. What was the

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Speaker 6: last time the UFC was in Seattle, Washington? How about

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Speaker 6: two thy thirteen for a UFC on Fox card headline

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Speaker 6: by Demetrius Johnson in a flywhite title fight with John Moraga.

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Speaker 6: That's a long ass time ago. We got a pretty

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Speaker 6: good fight Night card coming to Seattle February twenty second,

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Speaker 6: former two division champion Henry Sejudo in the main event

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Speaker 6: against Sonya Dong in a five round vandam Wait till

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Speaker 6: And in the Colemane in the same division there, Dominic

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Speaker 6: Cruz will return from a two year layoff to take

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Speaker 6: on veteran Rob Faughn, and just yesterday, Don Cruse told

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Speaker 6: ESPN MMA that this will be the final bout of

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Speaker 6: his career. So long Island, Luke, if you can throw

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Speaker 6: to the full fight card, Luke Thomas for a fight

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Speaker 6: night card here in Seattle.

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Speaker 5: This one's pretty loaded.

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Speaker 6: How excited are you for the announcement of this doubleheader

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Speaker 6: and some of these tasty matchups like Brendan Allen, Fluffy

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Speaker 6: Hernandez and Michael Kiessa versus Garimbo there underneath?

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Speaker 7: All right, So the Shuto versus Song fight, we'll talk

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Speaker 7: about that in just a second and more detail. But

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Speaker 7: it's I think a good fight. I think Song and

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Speaker 7: Don is gonna win that one pretty cleanly. I don't

1240
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Speaker 7: hate Rob Font versus Dominant Cruz, but like Dominant Cruz,

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Speaker 7: this is indicated it's his last fight. Why is he

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Speaker 7: fighting Rob fucking Font. He should either be fighting another

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Speaker 7: legend or somebody who he can set up as like a.

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Speaker 1: Future guy in the division. I just don't understand that one.

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Speaker 7: The Barbosa Garcia fight, I'm you know, I don't have

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Speaker 7: a strong feeling about Alan versus Hernandez is a rematch

1247
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Speaker 7: from their LFA days.

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Speaker 1: Love that one.

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Speaker 7: A tough fight for Alan, but a good opportunity to

1250
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Speaker 7: get one back if he can. Blades versus Kuniev. You know,

1251
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Speaker 7: Blades getting back to action, and Michael Kisa shouts to

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Speaker 7: Big Mike. We like him taking on Grimbo, who you

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Speaker 7: know is coming off that devastating loss in his last contest.

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Speaker 1: Some of the other ones, Kuti Lab is a bit

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Speaker 1: of a madman.

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Speaker 7: You have Silva from I Believe the Fight Nerds, which

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Speaker 7: is fun fuck it and dou Latov. I don't know

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Speaker 7: what to say, you know, the rest of these, I

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Speaker 7: don't have a strong opinion of one way or the other.

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Speaker 5: Interesting.

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Speaker 6: I don't hate the card, certainly, there's some good, you know,

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Speaker 6: star power on there, to say the least for a

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Speaker 6: fight night card. I like that they're going back to

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Speaker 6: a city they haven't been to in a while and

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Speaker 6: they're bringing it. Luke, They're not They're not putting out

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Speaker 6: Speedvac versus ty Burra three. So I'm down for this,

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Speaker 6: But you can ask questions about the exact choices of this.

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Speaker 6: So first let's hear from Henry Shudo who likes this

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Speaker 6: matchup with Song You Dong and he thinks he can

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Speaker 6: finish mister Favors boy.

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Speaker 9: I think I think I'm gonna save that for the fight.

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Speaker 9: But I personally like this fight. I have a good

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Speaker 9: game plan set in place for a guy that's that

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Speaker 9: is about ten years younger than me.

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Speaker 1: Song is a tough opponent and I like it.

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Speaker 5: But I just I can see myself stopping this duke tomorrow,

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Speaker 5: I really can.

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Speaker 9: I think it's a fantastic You want to know the truth,

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Speaker 9: the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. He's gonna

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Speaker 9: need a lot more than he's gonna need a lot

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Speaker 9: more than a fortune coick.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you so, Luke Thomas right there, uh.

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Speaker 1: A fuck kind of comments, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That's the power for podcast.

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Speaker 6: Shout out to that, Luke, What do you think about

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Speaker 6: this matchup from the idea of where we're at for

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Speaker 6: each in the bandamweight division and you know, so who

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Speaker 6: does the celebrity fighters?

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Speaker 5: So is this a fight that gets him back into

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Speaker 5: contention if you can get the win?

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 7: It is, despite his dumb ass fortune cookie comment there, Yes,

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Speaker 7: yes it is, Yes it is.

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Speaker 1: I actually do think it is.

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Speaker 7: Song You Dong is limited in certain ways, but I

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Speaker 7: would say at this point, battle tested, powerful, still getting better,

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Speaker 7: has it. I don't think he's peaked, and so he

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Speaker 7: represents something that you know, if so Whodo can get

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Speaker 7: a win over a guy who's like strong in that particular.

1300
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: Way, yeah, I think it.

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00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 7: I mean it's not like the best win to be

1302
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 7: the most relevant, but you're asking, does it reintroduce him

1303
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 7: into the division in a more relevant way? Absolutely, any

1304
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 7: kind of win like this over somebody who is not

1305
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 7: the top of the division but credentialed and respected.

1306
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: One hundred, no doubt about it.

1307
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1308
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 7: Again, the thing is, if he got the win, that'd

1309
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 7: be great, but the reality is he would still have

1310
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 7: to build from there, which is why I'm skeptical that

1311
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 7: he can. In fact, I think I think songa Doong

1312
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 7: wins this one, but it would be good for him,

1313
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 7: It would be good.

1314
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 5: Yes, Your Dong's twenty seven.

1315
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 6: Now, he's two and two in his last four with

1316
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 6: a stoppage loss against Cory Sandhagen by submission, and then.

1317
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 5: Of course he lost to Payota Yan. This part of

1318
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 5: Jan's two fight.

1319
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: Coming back Hagen lost was a cut though, which which

1320
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: is fine. I don't take it away. Okay, sorry, but

1321
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: I think he got.

1322
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 7: I think he I think I'm pretty sure long Look,

1323
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 7: did I get that right? I think he was cut

1324
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 7: against Cory san Haagen, if memory serves. Sorry, I was

1325
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 7: busy with something else I were.

1326
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go, early odds here Long Island Lucas

1327
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 5: sharing with us. Is that so Hudo plus.

1328
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 6: One eighty underdog at age thirty seven your dong minus

1329
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 6: two ten, Luke, s Hudo.

1330
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 5: I mean I he came close against al Jo.

1331
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 6: I thought I thought, if he had started a little

1332
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,479
Speaker 6: bit faster that he maybe could have won that title bout.

1333
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 6: But he's lost his last two, and they directly after

1334
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 6: a three year absence from the octagon. It was the

1335
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 6: split decision against Sterling and then of course the unanimous

1336
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 6: decision lost to Morob in February.

1337
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 5: Like, is it still there for him? Luke? Is it

1338
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 5: still possible? Or is he older?

1339
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 6: Celebrity fighter makes fun matchups with anybody, can main event anytime.

1340
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: Is that what we're at to talk about, Suhudo? Yeah, yeah,

1341
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: I personally think it's a rap.

1342
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he I understood why he sat out

1343
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 7: when he did, and I truly mean this. I understood

1344
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 7: the motivation behind it. I think the motivation I don't

1345
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 7: really have any issue with at all. He felt like

1346
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 7: he wasn't getting what he deserved and he didn't want

1347
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 7: to play that game anymore.

1348
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: Okay, fair, I don't really have a problem with that.

1349
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 7: But from a tactical decision, did it did it result

1350
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 7: in what he wanted? Apparently not? Apparently didn't get him

1351
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 7: very close at all. I think in that particular sense

1352
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 7: it backfired pretty badly. And now he's trying to make

1353
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 7: up for lost time. But you know, you're nearly thirty

1354
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 7: eight years old at one hundred and thirty five pounds,

1355
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 7: good fucking luck, you're gonna need it.

1356
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 5: Do you agree with me? In to Hudo's longtime coach,

1357
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 5: Eric Albera, seeing the captain, who I had on my

1358
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 5: personal channel a couple months ago, and he admitted to

1359
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 5: he said, look that that huge gap that Suhudo took

1360
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 5: off in his prime when he stepped away. Yes, it

1361
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 5: allowed him to sort of seek.

1362
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 6: Out interest in his personal life to to you know,

1363
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 6: get married and all that stuff, but he stunted the

1364
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 6: growth that was possible considering the run he was on.

1365
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 6: Do you look back at the Suhudo journey and have

1366
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 6: those same questions of what could have been?

1367
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: Or no, I do? I do?

1368
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 7: Do he when he beat TJ and then he beat

1369
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 7: Dominic Cruz and you know everything in between, Dude, he

1370
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 7: was doing amazing shit. He looked incredible and like, remember,

1371
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 7: you got to understand something. When Suhudo first got into MMA,

1372
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 7: there was obviously a ton of high Olympic gold medalist.

1373
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 7: He was a fuck up, like he was missing weight,

1374
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 7: you know, he was just there was a lot of issues.

1375
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 7: People he was surrounding himself were weirdos.

1376
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: You know. He wasn't sure if he was going to

1377
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: really pan out. And then he got beat by Demetrius

1378
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 1: the first time, and you're like, damn, and he got stuck.

1379
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: Remember he got beat up real good.

1380
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 7: You're just like, I don't know if he's going to

1381
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 7: turn into something, and then he did, and then he did,

1382
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 7: and then he sat out right in the middle of it.

1383
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 7: It's like, you know, again, I don't impugne his motivations

1384
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 7: for wanting to sit out. I think those were pure

1385
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 7: and real and genuine, and I respect that. I'd really do,

1386
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 7: but a as a tactical decision or a strategic vision.

1387
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 5: It was.

1388
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: It was da from the moment he did it. So yeah,

1389
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: let's go to some.

1390
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 6: Sound here from Dom Cruse, who was looking for that

1391
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 6: final bout of his career and he wanted the hudo rematch.

1392
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 5: But according to Dom, Henry said no, no, no, let's

1393
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 5: hear it.

1394
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 11: Whether they're not giving me, Henry won't take that fight.

1395
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 5: He just won't.

1396
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 11: So they just put him on the same card with me.

1397
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 11: Uh And which is it? Which is funny to me?

1398
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 11: Selby did that? Like I didn't know that they were

1399
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 11: going to put us on the same card. But you know,

1400
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 11: Selby knows what he's doing. And you know, I don't

1401
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 11: know why Henry wouldn't rematch me. I really don't.

1402
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: Why do you think he won't take the fight?

1403
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 11: I mean, the only thing I could think of is

1404
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 11: I kind of right with my words. Really ers to

1405
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 11: him a lot, and he probably doesn't want to go

1406
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 11: through that again. It is the only thing I could

1407
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 11: think of.

1408
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 5: But I mean, we're going to fight at the end

1409
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 5: of it, so he might I figure he might like that,

1410
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: like the end of the day.

1411
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 11: Whatever I say, whatever he says, it doesn't it's watered

1412
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 11: off the ducks back for me, like, nobody has the

1413
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 11: power to offend me but myself. So there's nothing that man,

1414
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 11: that little man could say to me to make me

1415
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 11: not feel one way or another. So I think that's

1416
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 11: the only reason he didn't want to take it was

1417
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 11: just the talking the banter, because what else would there be.

1418
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 11: I'm one of the most well known guys in the division.

1419
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 11: We have history, there's a story there. We both come

1420
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 11: from Arizona, and like, there's a lot there. So the

1421
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 11: only thing I could think of he just didn't want

1422
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 11: to deal with the talking the banter.

1423
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: I guess.

1424
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 5: Luke Cruz is thirty nine years old. The former champion.

1425
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 6: Of course, did fight so Hudo the first time in

1426
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 6: May of twenty twenty in a bantamweight title bout.

1427
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 5: And he was stopped in the second round.

1428
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 6: It just seems to me like so Hudo still thinks

1429
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 6: he's in title contention and felt he can get nothing

1430
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 6: from this. But would you have preferred so Hudo Cruz

1431
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 6: two or whatever?

1432
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have.

1433
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 7: I get why again, if Henry I think mistakenly, but

1434
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 7: if he does believe a title shot is possible in

1435
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 7: twenty twenty five, it does make sense to not fight

1436
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 7: a guy you already beat, right, I understand that. And

1437
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 7: by the way, like you know, I know, I know

1438
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 7: Cruise disputes the stoppage, but I don't. I think the

1439
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 7: stoppage was clean. So I sort of get why Suhudo

1440
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 7: is taking the path.

1441
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: That he gets.

1442
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 7: I just think it's a bit of a mistake because

1443
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 7: I think Song of Don is probably likely to win.

1444
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 6: Was that the fight where Cruse said Keith Peterson smells

1445
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 6: like bitches and hooge?

1446
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think or did I just add all three

1447
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: of those where he turned him into no nonsense Keith

1448
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: Peterson into all nonsense?

1449
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 6: A Cruise a underdog at plus one thirty five against

1450
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 6: the minus one fifty five Font, they're around the same age.

1451
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 6: I don't hate that. Also, another big layoff will be

1452
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 6: snapped from Cruise.

1453
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 5: We got a graphic to throw to.

1454
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 6: It's been an injury plague career, even though he's fought

1455
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 6: through it and become one of the greatest, you know,

1456
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 6: in contention for the greatest in his division's history.

1457
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 5: This will be a nine hundred and twenty four.

1458
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 6: Day layoff, which is the third longest of his career. Dude, Luke,

1459
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 6: you got to look at that and just obviously give

1460
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 6: him credit for being an inspirational, motivational psychopath and always

1461
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 6: pushing through. But imagine what could have been for this

1462
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 6: guy without that injury.

1463
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 7: I remember I interviewed him maybe not quite ten years ago,

1464
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 7: maybe seven or eight years ago, and this was when

1465
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 7: he was in the middle of dealing with his plantar.

1466
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 7: I think it's a plantar for shitas or you have

1467
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 7: the pain and the inflammation on the on the essentially the.

1468
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: What part of the foot is this? I forget? But

1469
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: what he was having to do to deal with it

1470
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: was botox the bottom of his feet to numb them out,

1471
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1472
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 7: He has just been plagued. Forget all the acls and everything,

1473
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 7: and then the cadaver tissue that didn't take and all

1474
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 7: those problems. That was bad enough, but there was a

1475
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 7: series of all these smaller ones along the way too,

1476
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 7: where he had to really struggle to get around, He

1477
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 7: had to really struggle to get through.

1478
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: And so it really impacted his career.

1479
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 7: But you know, in the end, even with all of

1480
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 7: that holding him back, he still did pretty goddamn well,

1481
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 7: really well to that extent, so he persevered. Maybe it

1482
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 7: did limit him, maybe it changed the trajectory of how

1483
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 7: things would have gone, but on all they still went

1484
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 7: pretty goddamn well.

1485
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1486
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 6: Indeed, Barboso will be an underdog minus or plus one

1487
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 6: forty five against the minus one seventy Garcia and also,

1488
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 6: courtesy of DraftKings Allen a plus two seventy underdog against

1489
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 6: the minus three forty Fluffy Hernandez. So I'm all in

1490
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 6: on this card. We'll see that in February. Let's go

1491
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 6: to topic number four, Luke, I feel like all we

1492
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 6: do is talk negative about the PFL, even though I'm

1493
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 6: fired up for this Usmann, der Maga Metov Paul Hughes

1494
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 6: battle on January twenty fifth. But the news we have today,

1495
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 6: first broke by al Zulino, is that PFL is cutting

1496
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 6: their one million dollar tournament prize in half for twenty

1497
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 6: twenty five on Crowned also reported through sources that PFL

1498
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 6: is expected to remove its tournament points system and become

1499
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 6: more of a traditional Grand Prix style. Here's the tweet

1500
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 6: from al Zulino, who accessed a copy of the new

1501
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 6: PFL contracts, and you can see that bonus amount cut

1502
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 6: in half.

1503
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 5: Luke Don Davis's schedule to face the Music.

1504
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 6: By the Way a second time with MMA Fighting's Mike

1505
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 6: Heck in a town hall where that seems ill advised,

1506
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 6: but maybe we'll get more answers on this. And as

1507
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 6: you can see on the screens, Zulino also reporting that

1508
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 6: title challengers in PFL will receive a fifty thousand dollars

1509
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 6: bonus for on top of their purse for showing fifty

1510
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 6: more if they win, and champions will receive a one

1511
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars bonus on top of their purse and

1512
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 6: one hundred more if they win.

1513
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 5: So the ladder here are good developments.

1514
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 6: The cutting the one million dollar thing in half of

1515
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 6: a tournament structure that no one believes is actually healthy

1516
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 6: for them does not seem like a good development.

1517
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 5: How do you react to this?

1518
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 7: And they also announced they're gonna have elbows for all

1519
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 7: PFL fights. I mean, I I.

1520
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: I don't actually mind it. I really don't.

1521
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 7: I mean that not the one getting paid, so of

1522
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 7: course it doesn't affect me in that way. But I

1523
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 7: i'd says for folks who understand, like, if you had,

1524
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 7: however many fights to win the tournament, you didn't get

1525
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 7: a million on that night. Whatever the remainder was to

1526
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 7: get you to a million, they paid. So if it

1527
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 7: was like seven hundred eight hundred grand to get you

1528
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 7: to a million, they would pay that, which of course

1529
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 7: is a significant amount of money, but it's one million

1530
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 7: for the season, it's not one million on that night.

1531
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 7: And now they're cutting that down to whatever. I mean again,

1532
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 7: they're they're gonna be saving millions doing this is basically

1533
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 7: the way to understand this. So I understand it in

1534
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 7: that particula. I mean, just ask yourself, what's happening here right, Like,

1535
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 7: what was the last time a I want to say fledgling?

1536
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 7: But non you know, the UFC can cut down their

1537
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 7: cost and there's really no concern because of the way

1538
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 7: in which their business is constructed and how much of

1539
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 7: the industry that they own. But if you're not that

1540
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 7: and you're beginning to slash costs, just ask yourself why

1541
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 7: that might be.

1542
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, BC like, while I.

1543
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 7: Understand that cost saving is important, I don't think it's

1544
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,799
Speaker 7: really the end of the world, especially if they changed

1545
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 7: and expand their product to beyond just these tournaments. That

1546
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 7: know what it really asked for and this like confusing stuff.

1547
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 7: The rumor that you indicated was that they're gonna get

1548
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 7: rid of the point system that they had that what do.

1549
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 5: You mean can you explain that to us what that means?

1550
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: What do you mean going from.

1551
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 6: The point system to the traditional Grand Prix style? Can

1552
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 6: you put that into Layman's terms?

1553
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 7: Basically, like how they're doing before it was like oh,

1554
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 7: if you get a win and you finish, you get

1555
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 7: X points. If you lose, you get it, and then

1556
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 7: adding it up and then having this convoluted system that

1557
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 7: people had to follow to see who would advance, and

1558
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 7: then sometimes you got like really weird ass matchups, which

1559
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 7: is very different than the Grand Prix, which is just

1560
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 7: win in advance, Like that's fucking it, just win in advance,

1561
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 7: and of course people fall out and then injury.

1562
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: Replacements have to happen. That does exist too. There no

1563
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: system moves without flaws, but it's just much more straightforward

1564
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: and simple.

1565
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 6: So it is a single elimination because if they go

1566
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 6: to a single elimination tournament and do it belatour Grand

1567
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 6: Prix style, I'm in on that's that's a development.

1568
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 7: That's I don't know if they've I don't know if

1569
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,560
Speaker 7: they've confirmed single elimination, but I believe you're gonna go

1570
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 7: Grand Prix. I don't know how else you do it.

1571
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 7: I mean, there is another way to do it, but

1572
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 7: I suspect that they will. But this is the one

1573
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 7: I want to make me see, Like, this is what

1574
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 7: the PFL is doing. It's like it's twenty twenty five

1575
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 7: and you're just now bringing your product up to the

1576
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 7: level that Belatore was, however, many years ago and they

1577
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 7: went out of business, Like you're just now allowing elbows

1578
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 7: in concert with the sort of modern way in which

1579
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 7: we understand MMA fights to take place. You're finally getting

1580
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 7: rid of that goofy ass point system that didn't add anything.

1581
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 7: Like you're finally getting to a system that fans recognize more.

1582
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 7: In other words, I'm like, it's taken them years just

1583
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 7: to get to stat his fucking quo with the way

1584
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 7: in which they present their products. And on top of that,

1585
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 7: they're slashing some of these costs that they have. And

1586
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 7: it's like, I don't mind the slashing of the cost

1587
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 7: to be leaner.

1588
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. I don't mind.

1589
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 7: I don't mind any of these changes necessarily in a vacuum.

1590
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 7: BC Like, they're all good in a sense, but they

1591
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 7: just signal a promotion that is behind that doesn't understand

1592
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 7: what they're doing, that doesn't understand the fan base. We've

1593
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 7: been over this a million times. It's a financial instrument.

1594
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 7: It's not really a fan focused kind of entity. And

1595
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 7: that's why to me, it's taken them so long to

1596
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 7: bring this product to a level and with a rule

1597
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 7: set that fans can easily adopt and understand. It's like,

1598
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 7: you're just twenty twenty five, you're just now getting to this.

1599
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: Holy shit, man.

1600
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, it's gonna be bussy TV with the popcorn

1601
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 5: for me?

1602
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 6: When when Don Davis goes back on Mike's Mike Hexs Show,

1603
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 6: even though Mike Hek is not a predatory, you know, interviewer,

1604
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 6: he's going to make him answer for a lot of

1605
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 6: the things people are talking publicly.

1606
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,919
Speaker 5: Do you think this is ill advice by Don.

1607
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 6: Or an opportunity to reset the MMA public's understanding of

1608
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 6: what PFL is trying to do.

1609
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 7: They definitely want to reset understanding, which again I don't

1610
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 7: think is necessarily a bad thing, but I'm when did

1611
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 7: PFL debut however many years ago, what was it so

1612
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 7: for folks who forget, the PFL was built out of

1613
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 7: the skeleton of World Series of Fighting. Okay, that's where

1614
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 7: it comes from. And I think this happened in like

1615
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 7: the after twenty fifteen or so, I want to say,

1616
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 7: twenty sixteen ish, twenty seventeen or.

1617
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: Something like that.

1618
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 7: Someone can correct the record. When the first PFL event

1619
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 7: was Luke long Islan luc could you.

1620
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 5: Look like eighteen?

1621
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: I think eighteen something like that. Eighteen. Yeah.

1622
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 7: Under the previous leadership of PFL, I got offered a

1623
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 7: job to do a head of pr there. I don't

1624
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 7: know if I've ever told you that. What Yeah, back

1625
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 7: at twenty eighteen, I turned them down. I turned them down,

1626
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 7: But it could have been you and.

1627
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 6: Don Davis right now you could have been like telling

1628
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 6: him what works and doesn't work?

1629
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 7: Right now you can, well, thank god I didn't take

1630
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 7: that job. But although I do appreciate the gentleman who

1631
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 7: offered it to me, who moved on to do other things,

1632
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 7: he's no longer with the company. But the point I'm

1633
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 7: trying to make is, you know, the lessons that they

1634
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 7: learned to bring their product to the point that it's

1635
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 7: going to be in twenty twenty five. I'm glad they

1636
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 7: learned them. These are improvements. It didn't need to take

1637
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 7: this long. All of the things that we know now

1638
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 7: we knew in twenty eighteen, and yet they still went

1639
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 7: through with them, and like decided to learn the hard way,

1640
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 7: the entire fucking way through. This is what I mean

1641
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 7: about like the guys not being fight guys, Like they

1642
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 7: have an impossible job to compete with UFC, Like good

1643
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 7: fucking luck. I don't think it's even really possible. But

1644
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 7: then you have to make good decisions on top of

1645
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 7: it in order to get there, and they've been slow

1646
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 7: to make those two. So I want to be clear.

1647
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 7: I think that the things that they're doing are setting

1648
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 7: themselves up much better than the things that they have done.

1649
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 7: But ask yourself what it means that it took them

1650
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 7: this long to figure it out this late in the game.

1651
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, the only thing that matters is if

1652
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 6: they do figure it out. This I mean, really to

1653
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,560
Speaker 6: be fair, so this is their last years. In a

1654
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 6: lot of way, it's their last close up opportunity to

1655
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 6: do big.

1656
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 5: I like some of the changes. I'll give him that

1657
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 5: credit and dude. I love this.

1658
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 6: January twenty fifth, card I had usmander Maga Medov on

1659
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 6: my personal challenge.

1660
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: Made some news with that shit.

1661
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he was.

1662
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 6: Cocky as as f dude, basically completely dismissing Paul Hughes's

1663
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 6: chances whatsoever and continuing the you know, f con McGregor,

1664
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 6: I'll smash him too.

1665
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 5: So interesting chat.

1666
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 6: You can check that out and we'll be talking about

1667
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 6: that fight in the next few weeks. Let's go to topic

1668
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 6: A number five. Jai Opataia is coming on in boxing,

1669
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 6: the IBF cruiserweight champion who's already put together some title defenses,

1670
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 6: two big wins over former champion Myris Brightis. On Wednesday

1671
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 6: morning in broad Beach, Australia on his own, he made

1672
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 6: the fourth defense of his title with a fourth round

1673
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 6: knockout of David Nika, the New Zealand Olympian. Let me

1674
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 6: let me say first of all, my ignorance, IM call

1675
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 6: him an Australian Olympic and in all week Luke, it

1676
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 6: wasn't really about this fight per se, because Nico ten

1677
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 6: and zero was in an Olympia Olympic medalist for New

1678
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 6: Zealand and did come in and fight balls out action

1679
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 6: style from the opening bell, but this is more of

1680
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 6: a continuation chat about Opataiah rising and big fights being

1681
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 6: on the horizon for him.

1682
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 5: They went back and forth. Opataia even got hurt at

1683
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 5: some point.

1684
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 6: In this, but when he delivered the boom in round

1685
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 6: four with that brutal left hook, Niko was out cold.

1686
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 6: And now we're talking about super big fights for the

1687
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 6: twenty nine year old of Samoan descent, the Southpaw in Opataia,

1688
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 6: power in both hands, a good athlete, a warrior mentality. Luke,

1689
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 6: we may have been a little late to the party

1690
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 6: on this show outside of the US in terms of

1691
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 6: recognizing him, but he's here. Turkey loves him. He's got

1692
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 6: Eddie Hearn promoting him. What were your thoughts on Opataia's

1693
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 6: blowout here after it started off being a back and

1694
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 6: forth affair.

1695
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 7: Here's how you know how good it was. Now everyone

1696
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 7: is asking if he's the guy to beat Usik, which,

1697
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 7: by the way, I have to tell you I find crazy.

1698
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 7: I don't think he's at all the guy to be Usick.

1699
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 7: I think that's fucking ridiculous. However, However, the run he's

1700
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 7: putting together the performance he had polishing this guy for

1701
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 7: what inside four right, BC?

1702
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 5: Something like that.

1703
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 7: Dude, he looked good. He has he If you're coming

1704
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 7: on BC, you better fucking come on. Well here he comes. Yeah,

1705
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 7: he's on his way and beginning to make you reimagine

1706
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 7: what's possible at a weight class where I don't think

1707
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 7: it's the same as it was when Usik and Britus

1708
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 7: were there. I don't think that's really at all, quite fair,

1709
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 7: that was a unique blend of Really it's a special

1710
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 7: moment for that division, which is historically not not necessarily

1711
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 7: all that strong, but here he is trying to reconstitute it,

1712
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 7: and with the performance like that, people are now asking

1713
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 7: beginning to ask questions about what's possible.

1714
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: That tells you the kind of impact he's had. It's

1715
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: been a big one.

1716
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 5: Yeah. Look he's got one of four belts a cruiserweight.

1717
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 6: But Gilberto Zerdo Ramirez, Golden Boys on him, Well, we've

1718
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 6: never been. But to be fair, he actually looks better

1719
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 6: at cruiserweight than he did as a sixty eight title holder,

1720
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 6: as a relevant light heavyweight. Remember he brought that forty

1721
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 6: four to no record into that Bevall fight.

1722
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 5: He's got two or four belts.

1723
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 6: This is a hell of a unification fight that seems

1724
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 6: natural to be next, and Eddie Hearn seems to be

1725
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 6: lining up Usik. I don't want to throw to the

1726
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Speaker 6: interview because it is a dizone broadcast and they'll probably

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01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 6: make us pull down the episode. But Eddie Hearn came

1728
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 6: on there and basically said unification next, and then this

1729
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,799
Speaker 6: is the guy to be Usick. Look, Eddie Hearn's promoting,

1730
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,759
Speaker 6: but still if Turkey wants it, Luke and he snaps

1731
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 6: his fingers looking read season you gotta fight, you gotta

1732
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 6: fight tough, tough opponents. So I wonder if we're gonna

1733
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 6: see Opataia against Usik sooner than you think more to

1734
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 6: come on that. Let's start to Opataia quickly talking about

1735
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 6: that fact that he did get rocked in this fight

1736
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 6: against Nika.

1737
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 5: Look, you tell me first, did you feel that backhand?

1738
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, ah, definitely, by if you're gonna help me, like

1739
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 12: on top of the head and it's sort of just

1740
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 12: like sort of fuzzz and then you just come back

1741
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 12: to you and you're like, oh ho you shake.

1742
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: And then it oh no, keep your hands off.

1743
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 5: Some love that Okay, It's like a Tasmanian devil there.

1744
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 5: It was great.

1745
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 6: We also have a pick, Luke, of your boy Vulk,

1746
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 6: who showed up in broad Beach on the Dezonne broadcast

1747
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 6: to show a little bit of support for someone.

1748
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 5: I mean, there's the pick with Eddie Hern's Sky Nicholson.

1749
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: Vulcan. Excuse me, Vulcan is not that tall.

1750
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 6: Not that tall at all, not that tall at all.

1751
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 6: I mean Sky looks to be in heels there. But

1752
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 6: it looks like Joe Rogan right there.

1753
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have seen both in person. I I think

1754
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 7: Vulk is shorter and all right, I think, but I'm

1755
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 7: not sure about that. Actually, I think he's shorter.

1756
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: I think he is.

1757
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 5: Well, those are our five topics right there.

1758
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 6: Let's hope we get Opataia a Zerdo next and he's

1759
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:54,759
Speaker 6: gonna go to heavyweight.

1760
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 5: Luke, it's coming, It's gonna happen.

1761
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 7: So, oh wait, a bit of breaking news. Can I

1762
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 7: get the breaking news thingy Long Island, Luke. The jingle,

1763
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 7: among others, says, quote no truth to the rumor of

1764
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 7: Pereira Pereira versus Volkov zero?

1765
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 5: Move on who said that? Kevin Ioli, Well, he has

1766
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 5: connections Luke.

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01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, one more time, no truth. This is exactly what

1768
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: the rote. No truth of Panta versus Volkov zero. Move on.

1769
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 6: All right, Well, it was reported by you know, a

1770
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 6: bunch of outlets, including Forbes and The Mad.

1771
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: Reported by a bunch of outlets. It was repeated by

1772
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of outlets. That's not the same as reporting.

1773
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, so it's out there. Ioli says it's false.

1774
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 6: We'll listen to Big keV I. Guess you know he

1775
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 6: does have Dana on speed dial.

1776
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 5: So there you go, right there.

1777
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 6: All right, let's quickly get in and out of our

1778
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 6: final topics. We give you that email address or our

1779
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 6: final segments. Excuse me, we give you the email address

1780
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 6: every week Morning Coombat at gmail dot com.

1781
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 5: You see it on your screen.

1782
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 6: Your chance to contact the show Dead wrongs, fancy of missions,

1783
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 6: send Mikey a pic of your piece. Just kidding on

1784
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 6: that last part. The first one we got is our

1785
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 6: opportunity to take the stand. Maybe we said something wrong,

1786
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 6: Maybe you called this out on it. You better come correct,

1787
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 6: you better bring time stamps. This one's called did wrong

1788
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 6: do We have an intro? Tell me we have the intro.

1789
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: Look at the private chat. Hey, it's twenty twenty five.

1790
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 1: We got to get that shit fixed like this. It

1791
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: enough enough with the bullshit. You know what I'm saying.

1792
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 5: Number one here is from uh Mahaalow. It's your boy, dass.

1793
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 5: Luke say it. Say the jack.

1794
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 7: Yas back up on that ass and give these motherfuckers

1795
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 7: a blast from the past.

1796
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 6: So I'm talking about uh Dad, says the Loha again

1797
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 6: Dons on Friday show at twenty one minutes and ten seconds.

1798
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 6: In discussing the least talented UFC champions of all time,

1799
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 6: LT mentions Dave Manet, saying that Manet was a former

1800
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 6: quote bantamweight champion for a.

1801
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: Very well he was middleweight. I didn't mean that, Fox,

1802
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: Sorry about that.

1803
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 5: LT.

1804
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 6: Back when Dave Manee won the inaugural middleweight title at

1805
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 6: US SEE thirty three in two thousand and one, the

1806
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 6: UFC didn't have the one three fan misspoke fuck face.

1807
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 7: I mean, he's right, I said that then that's wrong,

1808
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 7: but I yea still have you ever seen the phil

1809
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 7: Baroti ko of Dave Manet. Yes, yes, that's one of

1810
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 7: the most brutal fuck KOs you'll ever see in your life.

1811
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 6: That says, not sure how Mane and one thirty five

1812
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 6: are connected in your brain. But hope you aren't getting

1813
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 6: washed before our very eyes looking forward to all the

1814
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 6: new content.

1815
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm definitely getting washed before your very eyes.

1816
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 6: But yeah, Daz is becoming sort of the on budsman

1817
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 6: from a dead wrong stance.

1818
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: We need it, we need do you do you?

1819
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 6: Does that make his ranking in Hawaiian mm A higher?

1820
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 6: I mean, I think number one we've got we have number.

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01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: One, Max Max Holloway. Yeah, it has to be.

1822
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 6: Number two is probably, Uh, what's that guy's say, telvin

1823
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 6: Ky Papa.

1824
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: Probably Yeah, he's up there.

1825
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 5: Then you've got Governor Penn.

1826
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 7: No, he's pretty, No, No he's no, he's dude. He's

1827
01:20:53,280 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 7: got multiple allegations and lawsuits against him for wait, I

1828
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 7: need to be careful about that.

1829
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 5: I'm not a show.

1830
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 7: But he's got multiple lawsuits from former romantic partners against

1831
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 7: him active. I think he's one and.

1832
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 6: Two at the Lava Shack too, and did have the

1833
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 6: UFC record for consecutive losses until Ferguson he.

1834
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: Goes Yancy Maderos on that list, we'll put.

1835
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 6: On Yeah, Kai Kameca's tattoo on Taite's the Pineapple princess.

1836
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 5: You know, we got a few people.

1837
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 6: Shout out to Dad, shout out to telvin Key Papa.

1838
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 6: Imagine if telvin Key Pappa's highlight of his week was

1839
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 6: like to wash Dad said, said his name.

1840
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, if we can provide that

1841
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 5: for people. Luke all right, I hope. So we're here

1842
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 5: for Oh, let's go to number two. This is from Kevin,

1843
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 5: he says.

1844
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 6: Hey, guys on the twenty twenty five Prediction show, BC

1845
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,719
Speaker 6: said Arnold Allen went two and oh in twenty twenty four.

1846
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:50,759
Speaker 6: Luke then reiterated that as fact. Brian then read Mostar's record,

1847
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 6: stating that Mozart b Allen recently. Uh, Mostart b Allen

1848
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 6: in twenty four and Allen only won one fight, so

1849
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 6: he's one in one our YouTube brain, damn.

1850
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 7: Yes, the answer is yes, yes, yes.

1851
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 6: Our last dead wrong comes from dazz Mahallo Baby, this

1852
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 6: guy's all ull bags. Yeah Aloha. Donks at thirty one

1853
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 6: minutes and fifty five seconds. In discussing flyweight Mohammed Mukayev's

1854
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 6: potential return to the UFC, lead LT posits that Makaye

1855
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 6: have quote isn't.

1856
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 5: A threat to a Morab or an Umar correct LT.

1857
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: Because yeah, fuck me.

1858
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, so any threat would be toward Pantosia.

1859
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 5: I'm guessing LT misspoke, but he is still dead wrong.

1860
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. He's right.

1861
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 7: I do misspeak a lot. I mean, David A one

1862
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 7: thirty five is a fucking crazy ass one.

1863
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 6: Considering people think this this segment is unnecessary, but it

1864
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 6: calls us out and I love when it's I.

1865
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 1: Don't think it's unnecessary at all.

1866
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 7: I mean, sometimes it can get a little pedantic, but

1867
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 7: in general it is important.

1868
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that.

1869
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you very much.

1870
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 6: Our final segment is your opportunity to send in your artwork,

1871
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 6: pictures of your significant other in our tight T shirts,

1872
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 6: or maybe just some weirdness.

1873
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 5: This one's called fan submissions. You've got Mayl fures.

1874
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 6: Ash shot out the gaffney Jim Pierre on that one.

1875
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 6: One half of the main card minute. Let's go to Rusty,

1876
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 6: he says, longtime subscriber, first time submitter, been repping for

1877
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 6: years from the center of Canada's frosty capital of Winnipeg.

1878
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 6: We've been We've been going to Cuba for years. The

1879
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 6: locals always want my MK merch, but I refuse to

1880
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 6: give it up American donks missing out on the Cuban life.

1881
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 6: The wife hates you, guys because I'm always tuned in

1882
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 6: while she's blathering on about something or other, and I

1883
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 6: pretend to pay attention. MK for Life mf RS. And hey, Luke,

1884
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 6: the Latin booties are rich here, my son. It's a

1885
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 6: sight to behold. Peace Fight Nerds. It's Rusty and Lil Bird. Luke,

1886
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 6: I've never seen that T shirt that he's rocking right

1887
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 6: there there.

1888
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: I've never seen that T shirt either. I didn't know

1889
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: he did that shot up.

1890
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 8: I think a special edition Saint Patti's shirt that you

1891
01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 8: guys had.

1892
01:23:58,760 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: There was a few of.

1893
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 5: Them, Luke, what do you think of old Rusty and

1894
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 5: Little Bird?

1895
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 8: Here?

1896
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 5: Bring an MK to Kuba. I'm in on that, you know.

1897
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's I think it's lovely. But Winnipeg

1898
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 7: wouldn't want to live there.

1899
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 5: No, No, he just sent his wife to hell too

1900
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:11,600
Speaker 5: in this.

1901
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 6: I guess she doesn't listen to our show, but shout

1902
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 6: out to the lovely couple just the same, all right.

1903
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 5: Maybe Bill and Jenner are still out there in the RV.

1904
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 6: If you're out there, God bless you guys. Okay, let's

1905
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 6: go to number two. This is Saoul, the real one,

1906
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 6: the guy who's up on the roof changing lives, Happy

1907
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 6: New Year. Came home from work and the wife had

1908
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 6: a craven for some crab legs.

1909
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 5: I had King Crab, a.

1910
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 6: Real peaches delight, great way to start off twenty five

1911
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 6: and she even paid MK All day man.

1912
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 5: This guy Sawool is all Man, Luke Allman.

1913
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not a big king crab guy, are you No?

1914
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 6: No, No, I don't mess with any crabs.

1915
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:51,839
Speaker 1: You also have the palette of a toddler.

1916
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 6: I mean, well, you know, come on, I mean, I'm

1917
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 6: not gonna go I don't you know I do whitefish, Luke.

1918
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 6: But you know I grew up hate and seafood. Then

1919
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 6: I came around to whitefish. I don't go too deep

1920
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 6: into the How are you.

1921
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: From New England and you hate seafood?

1922
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, because my mom hates seafood and was forced to

1923
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 6: eat it.

1924
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:10,919
Speaker 5: They had a rule in her house growing.

1925
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 6: Up, you eat it all, and the only way you

1926
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 6: can get out of eating it all is if you

1927
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 6: throw up. So like, she was forced to eat a

1928
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 6: lot of gross fish, unseasoned that she hated and it

1929
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 6: permeated into me.

1930
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's a do you.

1931
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 1: Eat sushi California rolls.

1932
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 6: You know, I've done the big time sushi with Crista

1933
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 6: Blasio at the big time steakhouses and stuff or big

1934
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:31,879
Speaker 6: time places.

1935
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 5: But it's all right, not my thing.

1936
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not a raw fish guy per se,

1937
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 6: but uh, I'll do a good whitefish.

1938
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 5: Look, that's fine. Okay, give me some crab cakes. That's

1939
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 5: you know, that's fine.

1940
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: Hey, Maryland crabcakes pretty fucking good.

1941
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 5: Yeah. Give me some clam chowder New Englan clam chower. Yeah,

1942
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 5: come on, come on.

1943
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 1: Clam chowder is all right too.

1944
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on sal Wool always backing us

1945
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 5: everywhere he goes?

1946
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 7: I mean, he's the man. I mean, he's absolutely one

1947
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 7: of the most real rock ribbed Fight MK fans that

1948
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 7: we have, and we wouldn't be where we are without him.

1949
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 5: Thank you, Swell for your service. Let's go over to Ryan.

1950
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 5: He says, here's a fan submission for Friday show. L

1951
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 5: O L. This is what came out of Luke on

1952
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 5: Monday Show when he took off.

1953
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: Good lord, the reality is that's not nearly big enough.

1954
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that's the problem.

1955
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:18,520
Speaker 5: Disgusting.

1956
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 6: We have more from Ryan, He says, here are some

1957
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 6: funny cree pictures I posted to the Morning Combat Reddick

1958
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 6: community page. Uh, there's me in my own prison right there.

1959
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 6: That looks like the final scene of blurir Witch Project,

1960
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 6: doesn't it.

1961
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 5: That's great?

1962
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: You know I've never seen that movie.

1963
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 5: Oh well it's too late now, you know.

1964
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: Oh the hot dog in the pocket is.

1965
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 6: Oh god, when you are with me, yes, look at

1966
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 6: that human clay cover with.

1967
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: Lt he's a pretty good Actually, he's a well done Luke.

1968
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 5: This cream thing started as a joke and it makes

1969
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 5: Alan w very upset. I want to set the record

1970
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 5: on that.

1971
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 6: But have you come around like I have to go

1972
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 6: from nostalgic joke to you know what, I still need

1973
01:26:59,040 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 6: a little creed in.

1974
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 5: My life day to day.

1975
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: No, I'm not brain damaged.

1976
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 5: All right, Luke. Hat's white people? I mean, it's just unbelievable.

1977
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 7: We've got okay white people. Most of the guys I

1978
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 7: listened to in my fucking music are white. But like,

1979
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 7: I don't understand why people like it's it's it's the

1980
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 7: same thing with Sweet Caroline. You don't actually like that song.

1981
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 7: You just like to sing it when you're drunk, which

1982
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 7: is the same thing as Creed. It's not actually good,

1983
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,719
Speaker 7: and you know it's not actually good, but when you're drunk,

1984
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 7: it's kind of a silly thing to do.

1985
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: Just say that rather than being like Creed is back.

1986
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 5: No, here's the thing.

1987
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 6: If you came of age while Cream while Creed was

1988
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 6: hot in high school, yeah, here's the asterisk. And you

1989
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 6: grew up in an absolute dirtbag factory town and didn't

1990
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 6: know better than Creed might be the soundtrack of your

1991
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 6: lowest years.

1992
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 5: And that's the truth.

1993
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 7: I was living in an apartment in Marietta, Georgia when

1994
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,560
Speaker 7: fucking Creed hit it big. It wasn't like I was

1995
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 7: living up on the big time.

1996
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: Bro.

1997
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 7: They suck ass and people who like them suck ass,

1998
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 7: and you can suck my ass.

1999
01:27:58,680 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: How about that?

2000
01:27:59,160 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 4: Wow?

2001
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 5: If he got Scott's stap on the show, would you

2002
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 5: give in for that?

2003
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: Would you do a threesome with him like Kid Rock did?

2004
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 5: Oh?

2005
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 7: Oh, my friend, I have a new Google search for you,

2006
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 7: Scott snap kid Rock threesome? Yeah, I have fun with

2007
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 7: that one.

2008
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 6: I only know about that time Scott's staff got drunk

2009
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 6: in the in the lobby of a hotel and started

2010
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 6: crossing the line with the members of three eleven and

2011
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 6: talking bad about their wives, and then they all beat

2012
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 6: them up there.

2013
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,440
Speaker 5: I was like, that's a great story, Nick.

2014
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 7: Actually I didn't know that one. That's even better Omaha style.

2015
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 7: He will put these fucking knuckles on yea huh.

2016
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,879
Speaker 6: That'll close out our fan segments for the day. Reminder

2017
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 6: more we got I'm sorry one more from an unknown center.

2018
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 5: Thank you for the reminder.

2019
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 6: Here's our final fans over of the week live Filatio

2020
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 6: suck it bit?

2021
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:49,600
Speaker 5: Okay, nice a little bit, Luke, right, you know.

2022
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 7: Dude, we got to talk about the two ways this

2023
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 7: story really gets fucking jack off and everyone's face and

2024
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 7: it's completely legal.

2025
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 5: Look, should that be our new intro for Friday show?

2026
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 7: So that is the official Friday intro. I don't give

2027
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 7: a shit what anybody says. That's the best thing I've

2028
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 7: ever seen.

2029
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 6: That What if we play that every Friday leading into

2030
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 6: d MS and fans of what about that?

2031
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm cool with it? If you know, yeah, then we

2032
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: should give that to Jake and let him remix it

2033
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 1: a little bit and then turn that into the thing's.

2034
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 5: An actual dix in it? Probably all right?

2035
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 6: Look, final question related to three eleven not the band.

2036
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 6: Do you think the fires in LA could potentially move

2037
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 6: the event next Saturday out of the into it Dome

2038
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 6: and away from that area.

2039
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 7: I'm being told by people who live there that they're

2040
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 7: not very close. And yeah, I mean, I don't know

2041
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 7: enough about the LA area or exactly how the fires

2042
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 7: are spreading to have any informed commentary.

2043
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:00,080
Speaker 5: Wasn't that an inglewood.

2044
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 6: Which is in the flat section near the airport near

2045
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 6: the water as opposed to the hills with the fire.

2046
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 7: Yeahs again, that's my basic understanding. But what I'm told

2047
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 7: is that the venue is pretty far away from the fires.

2048
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 5: Okay, so okay, interesting stuff.

2049
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 6: Final reminder there are a great partner DraftKings Sportsbook, and

2050
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,400
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2051
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 6: Playoffs So just a reminder here that to download the

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2055
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 6: we talked about the big matchups the Washington Commanders, there

2056
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 6: in a close matchup. A reminder that all lines are

2057
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 6: are subject to change, all betting lines, but we've got

2058
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:50,719
Speaker 6: some banger matchups there go Commanders this weekend. Maybe maybe

2059
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 6: our fan should put a little cheddar on your team,

2060
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 6: what about that?

2061
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 1: I hope.

2062
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 7: The problem is I don't even know if I can

2063
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 7: stay up and watch the game because I have to

2064
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 7: get up at the ball Sat crack of dawn on

2065
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 7: Monday to get up and go to New York. And

2066
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 7: I don't really want to do the show on four

2067
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 7: hours of sleep.

2068
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes.

2069
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 6: All right, All all betting lines and odds are subject

2070
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 6: to change, but as of right now, your Commander's and

2071
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 6: I go in there at Tampa Bay plus three on

2072
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 6: that spread Luke plus one forty five on the money line.

2073
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 5: Interesting stuff over there in Washington.

2074
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 6: Download the DraftKings sportsbook app right now five dollars, our

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2076
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Speaker 5: Please bet responsibly and remember the crown is yours. LT.

2077
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 6: Any final messages here as we head into the first

2078
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 6: fight weekend for UFC of the new year.

2079
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 7: No, I'll be doing a post or I'll be doing

2080
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 7: a watch along for I think most of the main

2081
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 7: Card just because not because it's a great card, but

2082
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 7: just because it's the first one, you know, just to

2083
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 7: kind of ring in the new year. And then we'll

2084
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 7: have a great Monday show and then we'll set ever

2085
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 7: anything up for next weekends. UFC three eleven should be great.

2086
01:31:58,200 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, we may have a big surprise next week.

2087
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 5: We'll see. Okay, we'll see.

2088
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see.

2089
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 5: We'll see what's happening Long Island. Look, the main card

2090
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,440
Speaker 5: minut is going to be hot and ready this Saturday.

2091
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 8: Or what I actually, I got plans this weekend, so

2092
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 8: I will not be live, but I do have Luke's

2093
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 8: shocked but uh Luke, everyone can tune into your watch

2094
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 8: along now.

2095
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: Do have s breakdowns out guys?

2096
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 8: You can go check those out and yeah, thank you

2097
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 8: very much.

2098
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 6: There get some main Card minute merch there at the

2099
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 6: website as well.

2100
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 5: I got this.

2101
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 6: Fantastic coozie over here. You know, you don't see Luke

2102
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 6: Thomas wearing a main Card minute.

2103
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 1: Coozie at all.

2104
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 5: That's what I'm talking about.

2105
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gave me one. I think got through it

2106
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 1: in the trash.

2107
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 5: I bet you did. On the way out.

2108
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 6: Remember what happened to gave you that really expensive wine

2109
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:38,719
Speaker 6: bottle from France and you were like, yeah, fuck that guy.

2110
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you know, who knows what he did

2111
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:45,679
Speaker 7: with that ship?

2112
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 6: You know, you know he may have been at Epstein

2113
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 6: Island at one point, but David Appleton's a good soul

2114
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 6: underneath it all. All right, that's the show for this week, folks.

2115
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 6: Take care of yourselves, enjoy the fights. Follow us on

2116
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 6: our social channels. There that you can see our YouTube

2117
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 6: channels and life and subscribe. It does help us go

2118
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 6: a long way. We're on the road to not just

2119
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 6: save in this show, but save in your soul, one

2120
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 6: episode at a time. Take care, brush your hair. Until then,

2121
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 6: that's LT ONBC. That's Long Island Luke, and we are

2122
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 6: out of here.