1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: dot Com, the Radio plus Mobile Act and on your radio. 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash from Bloomberg World Headquarters. 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pellet. A record today for naz DAK up 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: eight points to fifty two eighty three. The Dow in 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: SMP lower stocks little changed, holding their records as investors 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: debate the direction of Federal Reserve monetary policy after mixed 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: economic reports. 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That's the focus 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: of Fashion to Figure. It focuses exclusively on women's plus 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: size clothing and related accessories, and here to tell us 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: more is the co founder and chief executive Michael Kathleen. Michael, 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: thanks for coming in, Thanks for having me here. Tell 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: us a little bit about your background and how you 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: came to create Fashion to Figure. Well, it's it's a 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: bit of a mixed combination of um wanting to continue 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: a great legacy that my family started in intern of 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: the last century when my great grandmother, owned by the 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: name of Lane Bryant, created special sized clothing and really 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: pioneered the category bringing fashion to the figure. Are our 29 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: company name really draws its history from a famous quote 30 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: of hers which was never asked a woman to conform 31 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: their figure to fashion. Always bring fashion to the figure. 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: And when I was at in graduate school, I saw 33 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: a great opportunity to kind of modernize the retail experience 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: or the shopping experience for this consumer, and so my 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: brother and I literally started the proverbial single store that 36 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: we ran ourselves every day for a year and a 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: half and a decade later, we now sell our our 38 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: very contemporary fashion product and five channels, um our own stores, 39 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: digital marketplaces online at Fashion to Figure dot Com, through 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: wholesale partners, and through new disruptive um subscription box companies, 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: and really what we do is provide up to the minute, 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: very fast fashion trends across a very contemporary on trend 43 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: lifestyle that people can really forget about being special size 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: or size related. They're really getting access to the latest 45 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: fashion that that really anybody would deem as contemporary. Now 46 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: your background, you worked at Lazard, Your brother Nicholas was 47 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: previously at Sacks. What was it like going from the 48 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: banking industry into the retail business that already Well, it's 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: very it's very different. I mean, I think working on 50 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: wall streets very different than main street. And I think 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: in our case, um my brother and I brought a 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: great combination of skills, his with the retail background in 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: mind with more of a finance background. I don't think 54 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: that either of us would be here without the combination 55 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: of those skills coming together. But for me, it certainly 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: was an adjustment. But it's much more rewarding work now 57 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: with all the people that work inside of our business 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: being really both our customers and our employees who we 59 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: call ft F family members, seeing how real hard working 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: people are out there in shopping malls across America and 61 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: shopping and consuming American products and you know, really creating 62 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: the economy. It's very different to be out there among 63 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: the people and serving them than it is behind a 64 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: desk in Rockefeller Center and analyzing reports. Now you mentioned customers, 65 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned your employees. Tell us about your vendors, because 66 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: that makes you a slightly different retail company in that 67 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: you don't create the products yourself. You work with I 68 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: guess over a hundred vendors to bring those products to market. 69 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: We actually do create the product ourselves. Basically, we Um. 70 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: We bring hundreds of styles across basic dressing and casual categories, 71 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: so that our customers literally every time they come to 72 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 1: our website or every time they come to our store 73 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: can see a new dress, a new top. They can 74 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: always get a basic item of any need or or 75 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: in any for any area of their life in a 76 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: different color, in an updated, you know, style or contemporary trend. 77 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: We create all that stuff with our own designers, and 78 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: we have terrific um manufacturing partners all across the world. 79 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: They can manufacture things anywhere from four tough you know, 80 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: sixteen weeks for us and get a very fast flow 81 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: of product to the floor, so that our customers always 82 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: see that newness, that freshness of fashion. At fashion and 83 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: Figure dot com, for example, you'll see new things there 84 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: every single day and you'll rarely see an item more 85 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: than you know, sixty five dollars. Where you mentioned the 86 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: price point and I just want to offer detail right 87 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: dresses around fifty dollars, tops around thirty five dollars, in 88 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: jeans retailing for about forty dollars that we we think 89 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: that what our innovation in the market has been has 90 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: been to offer very up to the minute trends at 91 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: a quality and price point that is has a combination 92 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: of that fashion, quality, price point, speed of flow that 93 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: is not matched anywhere in the large size market. We 94 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: think that we're the fastest moving assortment of on trend 95 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: fashion at a quality and price point that our customers 96 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: can have so they can always feel great with us, 97 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: looking great and really with up to the minute items 98 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: across any of these channel and touch points that they 99 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: have with us. Now, while we started as a store business, 100 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're very much into the every aspect 101 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: of the new economy now, whether it be a box 102 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: subscription partner that we have, whether it be our own store, 103 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: whether it be you know, digital market places or third 104 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: party brand of vendors or any of that. What's your 105 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: estimate for how big the marketplace is for plus size fashion. Well, 106 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: it's a very fast and dynamic run market today, UM 107 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: and I think this is one of the opportunities which 108 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: is why a lot of people are jumping on the 109 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: bandwagon or you know, dusting off the kind of UM 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: brand story of businesses and vertically expanding into the spaces. 111 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: Because it's about an eighteen billion dollar market for apparel 112 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: in today's in the US economy. Today, it's about seventy 113 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: million women in the United States economy, depending upon how 114 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: you slice the numbers that are wearing above sized fourteen, 115 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: so it's really one in three women in America. So 116 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: really to call it a specialty market is a bit 117 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: of a misnomer. Having said that, there's a real paucity 118 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: of suppliers and retailers serving that market, and that's why 119 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: many people are entering in the market today, whether it 120 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: be teen retailers, whether it be department stores, whether it 121 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: be online startup companies or others. So a lot of 122 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: people going into this market and you know, I know 123 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: it's a little counterintuitive for us to say, but we're 124 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: happy that our customers have more choices. Um, you know, 125 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: we're really a terrific fashion option for them at a 126 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: compelling price and value. Now, Michael, just last point where 127 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: I know you're raised about four hundred thousand dollars from 128 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: Angel investors. I believe to your first store when we started, right, 129 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: We've raised significant amounts of money after that, and we're 130 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, we operate in eight states today with our 131 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: own stores, a global website, third party marketplaces, subscription box partners, 132 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: and traditional wholesale partners. So we've come a long way 133 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: since that first story that we borrowed one or dollars for. 134 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: I want to congratulate you and thanks very much for 135 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: coming in and telling your story. Appreciate being here. Look 136 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you soon. All right. Michael Kaplan is 137 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: the chief executive and the co founder of Fashion to Figure. 138 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 1: This is taking Stock. I'm pim Fox, my co host 139 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: Kathleen Hayes, Thank you for listening. Our producer Sam Lenga, 140 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: our engineer Reggie Basil. Coming up Bloomberg Law. This is 141 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg coming up Bloomberg Laws. Brought you by Bentley University. 142 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: What do Rebooting America's oldest ski shop and crunching numbers 143 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: at Vista Print have in common and m B a 144 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: from Bentley University that prepares graduates to innovate and lead 145 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: because business is everywhere, Prepare here