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Speaker 1: from Coast to Coast AM on iHeart Radio. As you remember,

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Speaker 1: I was working that first Sunday, as I do all

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Speaker 1: the time, and while I was on the air, producer

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Speaker 1: Tom dan Heiser got a hold of me and said, George,

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Speaker 1: is something going on in Las Vegas. There's some kind

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Speaker 1: anything about it? And I said, Tommy, we need a

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Speaker 1: little more information on that, and we have to verify something.

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Speaker 1: We really didn't know what was going on at the time.

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Speaker 1: So as he continued to check back, we found out

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Speaker 1: that the situation in Las Vegas was getting worse, that

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Speaker 1: somebody was shooting down at people. And originally we had

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Speaker 1: heard that two people had died and a dozen people

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Speaker 1: had been injured. Well, subsequently, as you well know, fifty

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Speaker 1: eight people have died and nearly five hundred people were injured. Today,

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Speaker 1: legal action following the mass shooting at a Las Vegas

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Speaker 1: concert picking up, with lawsuits filed on behalf of fourteen

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Speaker 1: concert goers, including some were shot or injured trying to escape,

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Speaker 1: and one woman who was so traumatized that she has

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Speaker 1: since mistaken the sound of rain for gunshots and she

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Speaker 1: just can't handle now. The person who apparently did all this,

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Speaker 1: and he's dead now, was a fellow by the name

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Speaker 1: of Stephen Paddock. He was up in a suite on

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Speaker 1: the thirty second floor of the Mantalais Bay in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: He was a heavy gambler and he frequented casinos throughout Nevada.

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Speaker 1: A couple of days ago, I got a phone call

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Speaker 1: from an individual and I'm only going to give you

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Speaker 1: his first name, John. He was a casino host at

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Speaker 1: a casino in Reno Nevada several years ago and was

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Speaker 1: the casino host for Steven Paddock. I'm bringing John on

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Speaker 1: the air now. John, thank you for joining us tonight. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're welcome, George, thanks for having me. A casino host,

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Speaker 1: of course, is hired by the casino to handle people

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Speaker 1: high rollers, because they want them to keep coming back

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Speaker 1: to the casino to gamble. Right, Yes, that's correct, And

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Speaker 1: this is one of the things that we do is

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Speaker 1: uh we uh. We're basically a glorified reservationist. We're a handler.

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Speaker 1: We basically make anything within reason. I would then a law.

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Speaker 1: We make anything happen for them that will entice them

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Speaker 1: to keep coming in. How were you assigned or how

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Speaker 1: did you get Stephen Paddock as a client at the Steve.

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Speaker 1: Initially Mary Lou which became Stephen Paddock's girlfriend. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: time she was working with our Players Club and would

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Speaker 1: sign people up that didn't have a player's card currently

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Speaker 1: then should be the liaison between them. The casino and

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Speaker 1: myself was he was he a nice guy? What was

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Speaker 1: he like to you? He was very very quiet, very

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Speaker 1: standoffish at first, and uh, you know I had several

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Speaker 1: Did he at the time? Yeah? He he he had

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Speaker 1: And just the way he played. His mannerisms were very

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Speaker 1: description that I could find for him. Did you like

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Speaker 1: him John as a person, No, not at all. But

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Speaker 1: of course you know he would put me in my

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Speaker 1: to somebody else if he has to to get what

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Speaker 1: that horrible night in October when this happened. You were

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Speaker 1: what were you saying? You knew something about You didn't

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Speaker 1: I did? I told my wife when this was going down.

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Speaker 1: rooms are, and I knew. I told my wife, I said,

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Speaker 1: they circulate through all the casinos. They only a small

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Speaker 1: do move around from casino to casino, of course, to

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Speaker 1: him to do this? Well, I've given this a lot

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Speaker 1: You know, I can't imagine these people to him were

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Speaker 1: that means almost nothing to me. Um, he has a

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Speaker 1: So when I thought about this, Um, if he hadn't

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what he did. Do you think

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Speaker 1: just it was so deflated, probably by not hitting any

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Speaker 1: jackpots that are substantial, um, and he needed to inflate

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Speaker 1: baffled looking for a motive for him. You've been approached

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Speaker 1: by the FBI, You've been approached by the major television networks,

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Speaker 1: Tell me why, Well, I can tell you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they've tried to get me to go on. They've they've

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Speaker 1: and you would treat me very fairly. Absolutely, That's why

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Speaker 1: remarkable story of your relationship with Stephen Paddock, the a

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