1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Hi. I'm John Void and I'm on a set in Burbank, California, 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the beautiful face of Ted Cruz. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: And this is Michael Knowles, who's the boss. We're on 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: Verdict with Ted Cruz. Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz. 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: As John just said, I'm Michael Knowles. It is so 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: good to be here because we're at a time of 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: great tension, lockdown, plague, riots. Everyone seems to be very tense, 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: and in this town in particular, it is so nice 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: to be among friends, including one of the great American actors, 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Academy Award winner, and more importantly, I would say, John, 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: great American John Voyd, thank you so much. Michael. Yeah, 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say. I usually say, I say 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: the man who did you know? Midnight Cowboy Coming Home, 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Runaway Train, and of course the great Anaconda yea. And 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: people laugh where they say that. And with two little 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: girls the National Treasures. I've got to tell you that 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: that is popular in the cruise household. Well, I'm very 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: pleased about that, because, as you know, I'm crazy about 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: your two gals. By the way, I do need to 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: ask the President the next time at the White House 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: if I can check on the resolute desk to see 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: if anything is hidden in Ah. Yes, you just kind 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: of wonder we could go in together. That'd be fun. 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: And you get our screwdrivers in full around. So this 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: is not the first time that you guys have met. Obviously, 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: Senator Cruise, you've spent a bit of time in Hollywood. John, 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: You've spent a lot of time in Hollywood, and you're 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: one of the few big Hollywood stars who has been 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: open about your political views, and increasingly so over the 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: past few years as we face these national problems. So actually, 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: the first time John and I met was twenty thirteen 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: and I was newly elected to the Senate and I 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: came to California to speak to Friends of Ape Yea, which, 34 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: as you know, was a group of conservative, libertarian, right 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: of center people and entertainment. And it was, you know, 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: it was a big crowd. It's probably four or five 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: hundred people came out and and I have never I've 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: never been in any other group where people were afraid, 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: like there was a rule no cell phones, no pictures, 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: and and and there were a handful of big stars, 41 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: and John was the most notable who was like open, 42 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: he was willing to be there, and John's a big 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: enough deal that it was like, all right, to hell 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: with it, I'm here and deal with it. But it 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: made a real impression on me that the people who 46 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: were there, the gaffers, the carpenters, the writers, the lighting folks, 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: they were terrified if someone got a picture of them 48 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: at that gathering, they'd be unemployable. And it was really 49 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, I sort of joked if we were at 50 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: a Satanist gathering that was murdering kittens, it wouldn't have 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: been more dangerous. Yeah. And that's look, I mean, you've 52 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: you've demonstrated a lot of courage to speak out in 53 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: a town and industry that it's not easy to do. Well. 54 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's look, we all know we're in a 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: very serious situation. It's an historic situation that I've been 56 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, born at this time and come to this 57 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: point where this country is being threatened in this way. Yeah. 58 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: I never would have been able to put that together, 59 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: but I but I saw the beginning of it anyway, 60 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the beginning of the open hostility in the sixties. Yep, 61 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: and uh and uh, and that that that had been 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: produced by a lot of work with the communist system, 63 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: with the KGB working overtime to try to infiltrate Now, 64 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: when did you start acting? How old were you when 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: you you started in the movie business. I don't I 66 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about me. I was, I was 67 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: a when I was a young fellow. Was I imicked 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: some of the things I saw on television and stuff 69 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: and wanted to make people laugh and all of that, 70 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: you know. So that's when it really started. And a 71 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: great wonderful comic actor by them of Sid Caesar was 72 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: somebody I went to school on and I had to 73 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: credit him with giving me the instructions because the stuff 74 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: that he did was so indelible. And we just lost 75 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Carl Ryder, you know, a couple of weeks ago, and 76 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: imagine cocon those guys, they were really wonderful and and 77 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: so that was the beginning. And then I really didn't 78 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: know I was going in that direction. I just was, 79 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, smitten with those characters. And and then later 80 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: on I made a serious effort to be an actor. 81 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: This was right before my senior year in college when 82 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: I realized I was working around with a book that 83 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: was a book of criticism for the British theater. And 84 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: I was looking and I'd earmarked all the work of 85 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Laurence Olivia, all the heroic roles of Laurence Olivia. And 86 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: I suddenly said, after three years driving people, mostly girls crazy, 87 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: asking what do you think I should be when I 88 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: get out of call? And and I said, I know 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: what I want to do. I want to be him, 90 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: Laurence Olivia. And that's that's where it started then. And 91 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: once I had made that decision, it was such a 92 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: relief that I knew what I would I could do something. 93 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: I was going to do this, and I knew I 94 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: would never I would never give up. I knew. I 95 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: knew at that moment that was it for me. And 96 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: probably that's true for you guys too, in some way, 97 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: that you get something you love and you know you 98 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: can put yourself to work at it, and that's it, 99 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: you know. And it's going to be difficult. I'm going 100 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: to have to start from scratch and and all of that. 101 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to have my ups and downs like everybody else. 102 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: And I certainly have had my successes in my failures, 103 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: and I've had long periods of time without enough money 104 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: and all of that, but I knew I wouldn't. I 105 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't for the decide. I knew I would go. That 106 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: was there a moment that was your big break? That 107 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 1: it was like a part you got Did you start 108 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: in theater or TV or movies or what was when? 109 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: When did you get started? Well, I these are just 110 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: you know. I worked on a play after I had 111 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 1: studied for two years in a professional class was Sansford Meisner, 112 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: one of the great great teachers, And then coming out 113 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: of that, I was just saying a prayer that I 114 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: would get some kind of a work where I could 115 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: test my abilities. And I got a role in A 116 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: View from the Bridge, which was a wonderful play by 117 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: Arthur Miller, and Arthur Miller was kind of producing it too, 118 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: and Dustin hof Huffman became the assistant to the director 119 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: because he knew Ulu Gross brought the director and Bobby 120 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: Duval was playing the leading role, and I was the 121 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: second lead. And Dusty and I got to know each 122 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: other before I ever saw any of his work as 123 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: an actor. I had heard that he was a genius, 124 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: but we got to know each other and we had 125 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: some fun. So you and I share something. I just learned, 126 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: which is we've both been in Arthur Miller play. So 127 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: in law school, I did the Crucival Wow and was 128 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: Reverend Paris, and all politicians are frustrated actors like like I. 129 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: In high school, I was convinced. I told my parents, 130 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm dropping out of school. I'm moving to Hollywood. I 131 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: want to be an actor. And and look, it's a 132 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: good thing. I went the path I did because I 133 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: didn't have the talent you had. I didn't have the 134 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: talent to make it. But I envy and love you 135 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: have said that before. I mean, there was a line. 136 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: They always say that politicians or politics rather is show 137 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: business for attractive people. I think that that ain't how 138 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: to go. Well, that's similar to that. Thanks for that. 139 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: Well you listen, you're you're plenty of talented. You both 140 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: are plenty of talented. And I was saying before we 141 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: started this thing that my son, James uh Is, James 142 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 1: Haven as he calls himself, is now working on human trafficking. 143 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: He's a very various student in that area and he's 144 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: helping out. But he's political, it's to some degree. But 145 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: he's crazy about you. He says, when this guy talks, 146 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: he says, that's it everything. Everybody listens to him, and 147 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: he said, and that's true. And the way you phrase 148 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: things and the way you prepare and you gather the focus, 149 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: nobody's better. You both raise an excellent point here, which is, 150 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: it does seem to be a lot of actors are 151 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: interested in politics and politicians are interested in acting. There 152 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: does seem to be a similarity in these two businesses. 153 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: And and I've always thought there was, like remember what 154 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Reagan said when someone asked, how can an actor be 155 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: in politics? And he said, well, how could someone in 156 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: politics not be that? How could they not be an actor? 157 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: And it's look, at the end of the day, you're 158 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: trying to communicate with people, and it one way or 159 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: the other. One of the frustrating scenes. Yeah, go ahead 160 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: just say, you know, a lot of conservatives we're not 161 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: doing a lot of communications. The whole point of this podcast, 162 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we're saying an assault on our whole country. 163 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: We're on our constitution, on our founding principles, and young people, 164 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean it makes you weep. The schools aren't teaching 165 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: the principles that built this country. And if we don't 166 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: explain them, how can we fault the young people for 167 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: not knowing they've been they've been getting that fed to them, 168 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, for more than a generation, several generations have 169 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: been brought up on common Core. And this is a disaster, 170 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: teaching against our country. And and they don't teach, they 171 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: don't teach history, well, they teach, they teach a sort 172 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: of fiction. I've noticed that actually reminds me of a 173 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: line from your acting teacher, Sanford Meisner, who famously described 174 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: acting as living truthfully in imaginary circumstances. It's very good 175 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: increasingly the history to school, this guy, thank you, But 176 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: increasingly it seems like the history we're being taught is 177 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: it imaginary circumstances. So I'll give an interesting My girls, 178 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: who you've met, that they are wonderful little girls. They're 179 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: nine and twelve. We were recently with two other friends 180 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: of theirs who are about the same age, and the 181 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: topic of Christopher Columbus comes up, and all four of 182 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: the girls are being taught in school that Columbus is 183 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: a genocidal maniac that murdered people. And and look, as 184 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: a dad, you're trying, you're trying not to be too 185 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: overbearing with your kids, and so i'd like, asked Caroline, 186 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: I say, well, okay, look, we have a federal holiday 187 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: in this country called Columbus Day. Do we typically name 188 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: holidays after psychopathic murderers? Like like, is there maybe another 189 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: side to this? And I'm not invested in defending Christopher 190 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: Columbus as the greatest person who ever lived, but I was. 191 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: But it's the degree to which our children are being 192 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: fed propaganda. Uh. And and you know, you see this 193 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: and the mobs that that that are tearing down and 194 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: attacking George Washington and Jefferson and Madison and Lincoln. You know, 195 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: they attack Frederick Douglas, the great abolitionist, and and and 196 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: they don't even know who he is, but if there's 197 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: a statue of him, he's got to be bad. That's 198 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: facing real insanity here, you know. But as I say, 199 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: they it's been this destructions as a source. And and 200 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: now it has many sources because there's there's Islamists, there's 201 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: there's originally Russian you know, Marxism, and now there's Chinese Marxism, 202 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: Chinese absolutely incourasions and uh and a lot of people 203 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: in the United States are really wanting so badly to 204 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: take down this president that they're falling in with anything 205 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: and there's just nothing but um, there's is a real 206 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: lack of compass morally, and they'll do anything and say 207 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: anything to get to power. So we're in we're in 208 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: a tough spot here. Now. Was there a time when 209 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: you saw Hollywood, when you saw an entertainment get get worse, 210 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: get get markedly more intolerant? Um? I mean, is there 211 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: a point that sort of stands out to your mind 212 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: as a shifting point or was it more gradual? Well? 213 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: She was? I mean, that's that's a good question, Ted. 214 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: I think the movies that I love, I was I 215 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: was raised at a time. I'm born in nineteen thirty eight, 216 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: and I was raised on the Golden Age movies, the 217 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: movies of you know, of Capra and then you know 218 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: all these great when they talk about actors and when 219 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: they say, John, you're a great actor. One of the fellas. 220 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: Look what it looks what we came from. I mean, 221 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: you know we had Bogard and Tracy and and the 222 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: Gable and Jimmy Stewart and all those fellows were you know, 223 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: I was going to school on those guys. And then 224 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: Marlin came along. Of course, at night we just threw 225 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: in with Marlin. But uh, and the gals at that 226 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: age fantastic performers, and all of a sudden, at some 227 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: point we felt, oh, we're a little we're more sophisticated, 228 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: we have more complex techniques to bring to them for 229 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you look at that 230 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: other stuff that was before. It's fantastic, But we lost 231 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:44,479 Speaker 1: what did they have in the Golden Age? Hollywood invented 232 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: the happy ending, the Hollywood ending. They invented it. Who 233 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: invented it? A group of Jewish people who were saved, 234 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: came here to save their lives and to build their lives. 235 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: They know what I have The ending is because they 236 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: were all people who were policies. We'd freed the world 237 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: from from from the evil of Hitler. I mean that 238 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: that was a powerful Oh you're bet your bet. But 239 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: the other thing is you see that in the Bible, 240 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: the Jewish people, at the end of every chapter you 241 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: have to end on a positive note. So if you 242 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: know if it's coming to the end, like if you've 243 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: read Isaiah and there's some bad stuff as being stated, 244 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: they're telling you that the future is going to be 245 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: pretty damn But then they go back and reiterate something 246 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: on the positive side. You know that there will come 247 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: a time when the so and so and end of 248 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: a change and uh, we've reached the land of Israel 249 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: or whatever. You see talking about movie grades, did you 250 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: get to know John Wayne? And what do you think 251 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: about the recent efforts to rename the airport. I mean, 252 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: there's a there's a real I think they should call 253 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: it u uh the Redskins. Listen, you know there's I 254 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: have I'm very close to the Indian community, and they 255 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: they'd love it that they have a football team. But 256 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: they should give the they should keep the name, and 257 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: they should give these guys, you know, seventy five off 258 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: of tickets or may give them tickets to every game. 259 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: A better deal would be cool, and then celebrate the natives. 260 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: I suppose this is the fear, though, is you had 261 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: this Hollywood ending that that you know that Hollywood invented 262 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: increasingly though it seems to me people don't like a 263 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: happy ending. People seem to That's that's what's happened. You see, 264 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: how did we It's a negative strain, uh, the because 265 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: it's a loss of it's the loss of a spiritual base. 266 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: Really We're meant to be happy. Human beings are meant 267 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: to be happy. God is saying be happy and enjoy. 268 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: Let go let God, do you know? And and this 269 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: is the way you approach problems. That's the way I 270 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: approach problems. I say, what are we doing? What am 271 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: I getting? All cooled down? Man? Just watch what happens. 272 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: Do the best you can. Celebrate the day, be grateful 273 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: for your gifts and the many gifts and stuff like that. 274 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: And that's that's a proper and positive way to be. 275 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: Like when you see I came into this group and 276 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: you can't see everybody, you can't see all the people 277 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: around here. We're all in a positive note. You know, 278 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: everyone's happy, we're cheerful, we're saluting each other, making each 279 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: other feel good, and we'll have a nice experience here. 280 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: And that's the way we were meant to be. And 281 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: we've lost that to some degree. We think we're smart, Alex, 282 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: we can be more sophisticated. We can and and Marlon 283 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: didn't help sometimes because he created this dark image and 284 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: it was so attractive that everybody wants to be dark 285 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: and mean, and you know what it was. But but listen, 286 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: Marlin was magnificent. Let's you know, I'll let you know 287 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm still crazy by Marlin Marlin. I'm crazy, but well. 288 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: And people communicate with storytelling. I mean, that's what's so powerful. 289 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: And and the left they've seized culture. They've they've seized 290 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: education K through twelve. They've sees colleges and universities that 291 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: they've seized journalism and movies. I love movies. I love stories. 292 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, when I was a kid, my dad, so 293 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: you and my dad are both both the same ajor 294 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: both eighty one, and my dad would tell these incredible 295 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: stories that I would just sit and listen to them. 296 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: And you think about the stories that are told now. 297 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I look at these protests are wherever you're 298 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: going to see another cop movie again? Can any of 299 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: all the great movies of heroes who are police officers? 300 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: Can they be told anymore? We absolutely do. And And 301 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: all right, let's take something like the great debate right 302 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: now in the country between free enterprise and socialism. You 303 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: look at the movies coming out of Hollywood. When's the 304 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: last time someone in business was portrayed as not a villain? 305 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: Like like, I'm actually happy when a small business owner 306 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: is not murdering kids. If they're just a crook and stealing, 307 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: that that qualifies for a positive portrayal. And what about 308 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: all of the epic stories of our nation, a people 309 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: with nothing who made it big. And that's that's why 310 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: people come to America. And well, you know there's still 311 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: the positive thing is there's still coming to America. That's 312 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: true the Neil Diamond song. You know they're coming to America. 313 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: And why because there's nothing else out there, fellas, And 314 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: anybody who wants to is listening to me, you kids, 315 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: you're listening to me. Why a says everyone who want 316 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: to come to America? Because the other side, this socialism 317 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: that people are saying is a good, good thing to 318 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: in jest and speak for has never worked ever, has 319 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: never brought about anything but misery and death. Yep. But 320 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: John on this every time, on this point on immigration 321 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: is I'm telling your kids, listen here. But this is 322 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: such a great point. People are still coming here. They're 323 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: coming here to this country so much more than to 324 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: any other country on earth. And yet it's this problem 325 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: you've identified, which is that people no longer have gratitude 326 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: for their country, for their family, for their God. It 327 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: seems like we're in more of an entitlement society than 328 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 1: a grateful society. People want us to be an entitlement society. 329 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: That's what the Democrat Party is selling. So oh boy, 330 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: and they have really sold out completely. I remember I 331 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: said this before, but there's a moment when via Ragosa 332 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: or a mayor who's a good guy by the way, 333 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: was asked to go out and correct the Democrat platform. 334 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: This was several beginning of the Democrat convention with par Obama, 335 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: I think, and and he was to send out you see, 336 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: as a sacrificial lab to to put God back in 337 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: the platform and to put the idea of Jerusalem being 338 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: the capital of Israel into the platform because they felt 339 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: they couldn't sell the tickets. Do you understand a lot 340 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: of votes won't go their way if that and that's 341 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: all they're interested and they care what it is. If 342 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: they you know, they would say anything in order to 343 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: get a vote. And they have anything three times the 344 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: delegates at that convention. That's right. So mayor goes to 345 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: so that's it. So all in favor of putting this 346 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: in the platform, say I and they go, they go, 347 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, and pretty good. And then and the Nays nay, 348 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: and they go yeah nay, And it was one was 349 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: more dominant, Nays were more dominant. And then he does it, 350 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: let's do that again. He could have used better acting. 351 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: Let me do that again. Uh, you understand what we're 352 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: saying now, zone zone. He says, the God been the 353 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: platform and put the capital of Israel is Jerusalem. Okay, 354 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: all in favor I I again the same sound and 355 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: nay nay. And you see the people that go and 356 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: have the ex throwing things. I mean there really is. 357 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: This is the beginning of that movement. I'm telling that 358 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: we saw in the streets right it's right there, yes, 359 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: And and then somebody walks up to him from long 360 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: this big stage all the way over to him sis 361 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,239 Speaker 1: and he goes he says, okay, we'll do it one 362 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: more time. Uh, all those in favor saying same thing, 363 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: same response, all those again nay, the eyes have it, ye, 364 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: thank you, And it gets off the stage well and 365 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: and and as you noted, that was to put God 366 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: back in the platform because they they'd removed it, and 367 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: three times the delegates denied it. And I have to 368 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: bet I sort of chuckled and wondered if there was 369 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: a rooster crowing somewhere. I mean, there is a parallel 370 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: for that. But but it is some of the early 371 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: beginnings in modern times of the anti Semitism, of the 372 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: anti Israel sentiment, of the anti American sentiment on the 373 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: far left that has been manifested, that are now manifested 374 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: in the mobs that that are burning our cities and 375 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: that are murdering police off exactly exactly. And it's you know, 376 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: and with the complicity and the support and the encouragement 377 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: of the media, And it's the media. Donald Trumps broke 378 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: in the media. I mean, remember the media used to 379 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: argue they weren't biased. They used to pretend they weren't biased. 380 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: They don't pretend anymore. I mean they hate him with 381 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: an unhinged quality. And I want to tell a story 382 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: about John. That's an interesting story. So John is careful, 383 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: passionate about our country, and passionate at risk to himself. 384 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: He's in a town, he's in an industry. We're speaking 385 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: out Carrie's risks. But but in twenty sixteen, as you know, 386 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: Michael I had a tough primary against h I think 387 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: that's a diplomatic It was we both went at each 388 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: other and he won. I lost. And after that happened, 389 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: John actually got on a plane. He called me and said, hey, 390 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: can I come see you at your house? And you 391 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: got on a plane. You flew to Houston and you 392 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: came over to my house. It was about ten o'clock 393 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: at night. I said, chirkya, come on over. I'm happy 394 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: to talk to you. And you went. You brought from 395 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: my girls a stuffed animals. I think there's stuffed rabbits. 396 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: And you sat in my living room for about an 397 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: hour and you were urging me at the time, saying, Ted, 398 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: you need to support Trump, and I wanted to see 399 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: Trump be conservative. I wanted to be more conservative, and 400 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: you were as earnest and you said, look, our country 401 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: is hanging in the balance. And that conversation, it was 402 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: powerful because it was from the heart. It was because 403 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: it was a plea, We've got to pull our country 404 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: back from the brink. And I did. I supported Trump, 405 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: I campaigned with him. But the fact that you flew 406 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: across the country to sit in my living room and 407 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: make that plea, this was not just type of tweet 408 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: and throw it out in the world. This was, by 409 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: the way, there were no cameras there. I mean, this 410 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: was a private interact. Told that story that first time 411 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: you've ever said it publicly. But you did it because 412 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: you can out the country. Yes, And I knew the 413 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: power of Ted. I knew it was important that we 414 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: can't lose Ted and uh. And I had seen I 415 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: had seen Ted with his um filibuster and I was 416 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: so impressed with it, and I listened to a lot 417 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: of it. He was like Jimmy Stewart, you know what 418 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this was as good as a movie. And 419 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: he was wonderful, really wonderful. And the statement he made, 420 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: regardless of whether he was able to sway everything at 421 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: that moment, was extremely important. He was making a stand, 422 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: he said. He was doing it with a smile, nothing, 423 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: not an angry statement. He was just saying, this is America, fellas, 424 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: don't lose it. That's the essence of what he was doing. 425 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: And I saw that, and I said, this, this guy's important. 426 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: And so I actually went out of my way to 427 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: say a lot of him. And then when this thing happened, 428 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: I knew. I talked to a friend friends of mine, 429 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I really want to go and 430 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: talk to him. Well, why did you do that? Call 431 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: him up he'll be you know, and that he said, 432 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: come on down and come on to spend the time. 433 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: And I spent time with Heidie and the children, and 434 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: I had a wonderful time. There's wonderful time, and we 435 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: were able to connect on that filibus run that on 436 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: that very moment you're describing. I know that didn't win 437 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: you a lot of friends in Washington. I think it 438 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: didn't make you mister popular in the Senate. It probably 439 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: won you a lot of supporters out here in the 440 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: rest of the country. But I see the same thing 441 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 1: with you, John, which is you've been outspoken, You've been 442 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: passionate about your views, not just on politics, but on 443 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: religion too, very unpopular in this town. And so that's it. 444 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: You see, it's the same thing. But but there's no 445 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: religion anymore. I mean, you know, I mean it's like like, 446 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: look at look at what our governor does. You say 447 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: you could march in the streets arm in arm, but 448 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: you can't sing in a church, that's right. I mean 449 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: it's crazy. You can break into somebody's you know, offices 450 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: and work and burn them down and turn over a 451 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: police car and you can't pray in a time of crisis, 452 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: people's character comes out, and on the left that there 453 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: is for too many elected officials a deep hatred of religion, 454 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: of religious liberty. And we've seen petty tyrants, whether it 455 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: is Gavin Newsom saying you can't sing in church, or 456 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: Bill de Blasio in New York City saying any church 457 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: or synagogue that meets, we're going to permanently close that 458 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: church or synagogue. And who the hell what what politician? 459 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: You don't have the power of the First Amendment. It 460 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: is fundamentally wrong. And that doesn't mean that there there 461 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: isn't government power to have reasonable common sense. You can 462 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: have a prohibition on large public meetings if there's a 463 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: public health crisis, that there's a long constitutional authority for quarantines, 464 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: for reasonable restrictions. What you can't do is single out 465 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: and persecute religious faith and treat it worse than everything else. 466 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: You can't say, if I agree with what you're saying, 467 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: it's okay, But if it's just faith, you're a second 468 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: class citizen and we're gonna come shut you down. You 469 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: look at Deblasio, the persecution that he's directed at the 470 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: Orthodox Jewish community. I mean it has been. It's very 471 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: revealing of of the antipathy for faith that the far left. Yes, 472 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah, this issue, Senator. I mean, you're obviously 473 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: in the political fight every day, you're in the fray 474 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: and John you're you're outspoken, and you've seen a lot 475 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: of this. You've you've you know, you've you've been you've 476 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: been one of the biggest actors in town for decades 477 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: and decades now you've seen things change. Are you looking forward, 478 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: hopeful for the country or less than hopeful? I'm an optimist. 479 00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm an optimist by I mean, that's the essential me 480 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: is it? After this? People who know you know that 481 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: this is true. But I feel we've been blessed with 482 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: this president. I feel that this man, I mean, you 483 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: look carefully at what he does day by day. You 484 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: can't think of another human who's above twenty four that 485 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: can handle this schedule and this kind of battle every day, 486 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: and the hate that's visited upon him that I mean, 487 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: it's unhinged. Yes, So, so what what he needs is us, 488 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: You know, he needs every pat on the back he 489 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: can get. He needs to see our smiles and our 490 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: lack of fear in the face of this too, because 491 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: he's leading the way with that in those aspects. And 492 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: so do we have the leadership, Yeah, we have the leadership. Yes, 493 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: we have the leadership. We have many brilliant people right now. 494 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: And I said at one point, I said, look, I 495 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: said the Democrat Party, and the Democrat Party is not 496 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: anywhere near it's not even an American party any longer. Unfortunate, 497 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: I have to say that it's they're not for America. 498 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: They're wed to something else. These guys are connected to 499 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: Marxism and to those countries that represent Marxism. It's serious. 500 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: So they're a torpedo against the ship of state. There's 501 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. But I said, you know, there's 502 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: no one on the other side, I said, Mark Levin. 503 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: I said, Mark, they don't have anyone of stature. There 504 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: are no statesmen, no one of stature. No one will 505 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: look what they've come up with as their as their candidate. 506 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: They've and they've gone through everything they can go through, 507 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: and that's what they came over. Anything. Pardon, he's in 508 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: hiding and he's not willing to take on the of 509 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: the angry. He's being told to hide. It's listen it's 510 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: it's all. This is all manipulated, it's all there's figuring 511 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: what how they can get him in now. On the 512 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: other hand, I told Mark Leman, I said, I can 513 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: give you fifty people of great stature right now, and 514 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: you can give me another fifty on top of that. 515 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: And I and I believe that. I believe we have 516 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: an army of great people. And if we are directing 517 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: ourselves toward helping this union restore itself, like guys like 518 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz, who knows what has been taken from the Constitution, 519 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: Mark Levin another one like that, we have to restore. 520 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: We have to go back to that essential the Constitution 521 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: and the and the Declaration of Independence and all of 522 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: the letters of our founding father and support of those things, 523 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: and the history of the decisions that were made by 524 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: the great people in Lincoln and Jefferson and Adams and 525 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: Jackson and all of these people right to the present. 526 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: They're great people right to the present. Okay, we have 527 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: a tremendous history that we can fall back on and 528 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: learn from and restore ourselves with. And that's what we 529 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: have to do. And people are hungry, I believe for 530 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: leaders who will defend America, who are proud of America, 531 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: who say I love our nation. And that doesn't mean 532 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: that you ignore our faults. That doesn't mean that you 533 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: don't try to move towards justice. You know, you look 534 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: at the great civil rights leaders, You look at it 535 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: at Frederick Douglas, you look at doctor King, where they 536 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: made explicit appeals over and over again to our founding documents. 537 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: You know, the Declaration of Independence began, you know, made 538 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: the majestic promise we hold these truths to be self evident, 539 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: that all men are created equal. And yes, we had slavery, 540 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: we had discrimination, we had that was the original sin 541 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: of our nation. But we were founded on a promise 542 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: of equal rights and equal justice for all. And and 543 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: I agree with doctor King that the arc of history 544 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: bends towards justice. But the left, they don't teach that, 545 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: they don't know that. They tear it down, that we're 546 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: an evil society rather than a society committed founded on 547 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: noble ideals. And we've had a long and at times 548 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: bumpy journey. I mean, we fought a civil war where 549 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand lines were lost to end slavery, and 550 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: and and and that you know, you reference the Obamacare filibuster. 551 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: You know, I think that was a moment where people 552 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: wanted someone to stand up and fight the president. The 553 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: best characteristic of President Trump is he's got a backbone 554 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: and he will stand and fight. And they're so we 555 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: need that. We need people who will defend America, who 556 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: will stand up and defend police officers who are your 557 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: bet heroic and keep saying you bet, you're going to 558 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: bet that's that's a good affirming line too. And this 559 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: is the strange thing. I hate to play Devil's advocate here, gentlemen, 560 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: but I'm looking around him seeing statues falling down. I'm 561 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: seeing the country riding. I'm seeing a whole young generation, 562 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: my generation go towards socialism. How do I get your optimism? 563 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: I mean, John, all of your peers in Hollywood, how 564 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: on earth do you end up being one of the 565 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: very few to defend our country and look with hope 566 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: on its future. I've had a lot of support in 567 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: my life. I've had a noble father, told stories, great storyteller, 568 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: just like your dad. And you know, I've been helped 569 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: and I've helped been helped by other people right to 570 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: this day, and I really rely on those friends who 571 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: tell me the truth and have straightened me out when 572 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: I've been out of line, and all of that stuff 573 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: that I've gone through, you know, and and that's where 574 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: I get my stuff. And also I'm a fellow who 575 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: says a prayer every day, many prayers, and I really 576 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: and I meditated, and I try to get there, you 577 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I try to get there. And 578 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: it's hard to meditate. People say it's easy, a true 579 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: prayer is hard to get to that tone where it's 580 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: really just talking. So so let me give you a 581 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: moment of optimism. We're in the midst of a year 582 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: unlike any other. We've got a global pandemic, we've got 583 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: the Great Depression, We've had race riots. On some level, 584 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: it's it's horrifying. At another level, look, I gotta tell you, 585 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: like like the shutdown we had in March and April 586 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: and May, in our family, there's never been a moment 587 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: that has been better. So if you were to ask 588 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: as parents, and it's it's it's it's hard to be 589 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: a parent. It's with our girls there I am again 590 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: the single big thing. If I could have prescribed what 591 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: our family needed more than anything else, it would have 592 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 1: been cancel every event, cancel every dinner party, cancel every playdate, 593 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: cancel every basketball game, cancel everything. Put all four of us, 594 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 1: Hidie and me and both girls in the house twenty 595 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: four hours a day with nothing but each other for 596 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: about three months, and we've never had so. Heidie and 597 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: I we began during the whole time of the COVID lockdown. 598 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: We did lunch every day with the girls and dinner 599 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: every day We've never done in their own lives. We 600 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: began doing something I've wanted to do for a long 601 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: time We've never done. We began doing a devotion at 602 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 1: night where we would read together. We would read three 603 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: chapters of the Bible each night and just start with three. 604 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: And I'd wanted to do that, but look, it's hard. 605 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: You're busy, you're on the road, everyone's doing something or else, 606 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: and we were all at home and I got admit. 607 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 1: The first week or two we did it, the girls 608 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: went nuts. They didn't want it. They wouldn't stay still. 609 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: They I mean, they were back and it's been a wonderful. 610 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: We just finished Second Corinthians, so we started, Matthew. We've 611 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: made it through Second Corinthians. They were actually in Glacians. 612 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: We're in Glacians chapter two right now. But it's been 613 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: every night and we have conversations. We live near downtown Houston. 614 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: Every night, Heidi and I would go for a walk. 615 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: We'd walk our dog at about sunset, and the whole 616 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: town we turned into Maybury. People were out. You couldn't 617 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: get close to each other, so you'd walk socially distanced, 618 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: and it was it was a beautiful thing, and it 619 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: was a reminder this is still a great country. I mean, 620 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: I point to that as a source of optimism. I 621 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: have heard so many people who say our families grew closer, 622 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: and that's a that's a wonderful thing. All right. Let 623 00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: me segue to a different topic, which is just the 624 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: world of movies. You worked with lots of actors. Is 625 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: there an actor like in all your time who you 626 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: were just like, Wow, that guy is incredible, that woman 627 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: is like like, who took your breath away? And I mean, 628 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: is there someone who stands out? Well? I have to say, 629 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, when I look at people, I just see talent. 630 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: I see everybody as unique. I see, you know, like 631 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: some people remember this a rab by the cold People said, 632 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: how can he was giving dollars to people all day long, 633 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: all day long, old man, and he said, how can 634 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: you do this? He says, well, I'm counting diamonds. How 635 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: can you get tired of counting dimonds? And he's talking 636 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: about human beings, the value of human beings and the 637 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 1: potential of each human being. I believe everyone has superpowers. 638 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: I believe everyone potential like that. So it's just a 639 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: matter of encouraging them and getting them to discipline things 640 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: and do things and think positively. All of that and 641 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: something comes out. You know. And I've worked and the 642 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: actors I've worked with, worked with great actors. Are there 643 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: people to stand out? Yes, all the people with the 644 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: movies that have been successful for me, Like starting with 645 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: Midnight Cowboy, nobody was better than Dustin Hoffman. Dustin Hoffman 646 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: is ah When they said he was a genius on 647 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: the set of of of the Arthur Miller Flay of 648 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: You from the Bridge, they were right. Who was a genius? 649 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: And we got along. We liked each other, and we 650 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: got along together. We were perfect for each other. We 651 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: helped each other, and we were laughed with each other. 652 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: We invented. Okay, that's that. And then every other one, 653 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, certainly with Burt Reynolds and Deliverance, Bert got 654 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: the role of his life one of the great movies 655 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: of all time. I mean it iconic. Yeah, and Bert 656 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: was sensational. It was his role. You know, when anybody 657 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: gets animated, when every individual has that kind of every 658 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: individual is just filled with potential. I remember I ran 659 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: a class for a couple of years. For a year 660 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: a year, I said I'll take over the class of 661 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: somebody's leaving and the teacher was leaving and they said, John, 662 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: would you take over class? I said, okay, And my 663 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: purpose in the class, I set as my purpose that 664 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 1: I was going to get every one of those kids 665 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: in that class, which about twenty four kids, to achieve 666 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: that moment where they took the class over where it 667 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: became their moment, their class when everybody walked to while 668 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 1: I was like wow. And I remember this one fellow 669 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: right down to the end, he couldn't get a last 670 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: the last class that I had, he broke through and 671 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: he was fantastic. And it was not that he could 672 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: do it every night, not that he went on to 673 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: have a great career, but that night he was a superstar, 674 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: a different question. Do you have a thought, is is 675 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: one harder than the other drama versus comedy or I 676 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,720 Speaker 1: mean they're both. Well, I've never done a real comedy comedy. 677 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 1: I've done some stuff that was funny, like in Holes 678 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: when I played mister Sarah. You know, it was a 679 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: funny character. And I have a pretty good sense of 680 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: humor and all in every role, like with Cowboy Midnight Cowboy, 681 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of humor in that. Yeah, And the 682 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: thing that actually sustains Anaconda is humor. That every line 683 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: I say in that movie is funny to me, right, 684 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: I love it. I love every lot. It's so it's 685 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: so crazy. So anyway, there's humor in the work that 686 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: I do, But I haven't done comedy. Comedy. I think 687 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: comedy is very specific. You know, it's a it's a different, 688 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: different aspect, different technique in a certain way. But we 689 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: have and we have people who are doing wonderful, wonderful work. 690 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: I grew up in the time when we had said Caesar, 691 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: as I said, Jackie Gleeson, I love Lucy Lucille. Ball 692 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: was a genius, and you know we had all these 693 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: rick regarded Oh yeah, he was, and he was quite 694 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: brilliant Ricky. So anyway, so it's Jackie Gleeson used to 695 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: they say, he didn't rehearse. He would have somebody else 696 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: read lines for him, and he had a kind of 697 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: photographic memory. But he was absolutely he knew what it 698 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: was and he knew this character so well, and then 699 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: he would come on and do it and they loved 700 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: it because that's why it was so spontaneous. That's why 701 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: the people were listening to each other. He had this 702 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: little cluster, you know, with Art Carney and the gal 703 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: was in Ardie Meadows. They were fantastic. But he came 704 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: on and they didn't know quite what He hadn't rehearsed it, 705 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: so he was just you know, he was going. He 706 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: was ready. You know. On the subject of comedy, there 707 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: are many jokes about politicians and actors, which I'm sure 708 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: we've all heard. They're very negative, but I am struck 709 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: by a positive version of it, which is that a 710 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: similarity between actors and politicians is they've got to be 711 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 1: concerned with truth, the truth about public policy, public philosophy. 712 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: Were getting in truth about a character truthfully and imaginary circumstances, 713 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: and you've got to like people you know this. If 714 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: you don't like people, you're gonna have a horrible time 715 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: on the campaign trail. If you don't like people, why 716 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: would you dedicate your life to building characters? You know, 717 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: that's the that's the bright side of good. And I 718 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 1: thank you very much. And I got to tell you, gentlemen, 719 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: I think you both exhibit the bright side of both 720 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: of those professions. And I wish we could go on 721 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: another five hours, but we'll have to just do it again, Senator, 722 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 1: next time you're in town. John, thank you so much 723 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: for being here. I'm Michael Knowles. This is Verdict with 724 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz. 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