1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Mark Vanderman. John 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Harris with you from Indianapolis, NFL Scouting Combine as we 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: are deep in it now. We have been here since Monday. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: It's been great to be a part of this NFL extravaganza, Johnny, 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: and it really is an extravaganza. We're gonna get AFC 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: South voice Mike Keith from the Tennessee Titans in here 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: a little bit later. J. P. Shadrick, who covers the 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Jags so well, and college football at large, and man, 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: this is such a confluence of college football pro football 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: football in general. The league year hasn't even started yet, 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: but you feel the buzz super Bowl well in the 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: rear view mirror. But it wasn't that long ago. It 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: feels like, hey, everyone's O and O. Let's go for 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Yeah, no doubt. And this actually was 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: the site of the National Championship. College National Championship here 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: George and Alabama played just a few a few hundred 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: yards over that way. So it's been interesting to see 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: some of those Georgia players kind of walking through here 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 1: with a little bit of a little bit swagger. I mean, 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: those Georgia players are. It's interesting. One of the things 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: that stood up to me Mark on Friday, Jamari Sawyer 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: is a it's a taw We played tackled Georgia, probably 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: gonna play Garden the league. And I really like him 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: as a player. I mean, he's on harrisone Hunt. I 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: think he's in the sixty region and they played that 26 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: game on January tenth. The Senior Bowl was the next week. 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: He went to the Senior Bowl and did everything the 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Then he comes here to Indianapolis and he's 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: one of maybe a half of the offensive lineman, maybe 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: not even half, maybe the third. He's one of a 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: third of the offensive linement that did the bench press. 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: And it just got me thinking about the desire to compete. Yeah, 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: and I know scouts talk about that, and I know 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: sometimes a lot more is made of it. Oh, this 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: guy chose not to compete, he chose not to do this, 36 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: he chose not to do that. This guy's not running 37 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: because oh, people don't want to know these not fast 38 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: or whatever the case might be. Did you see a 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: guy like that? And I heard Jordan Davis earlier today 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: nose tackle say I'm doing everything, Bro I'm doing everything, 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm testing, I'm doing everything, and you just love to 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: hear that. But when you hear it coming from like 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: one particular university, you know what, I think? I kind 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: of like the Georgia guys. Is it safe to say 45 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: this though, that if you don't lift, it's not really 46 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: gonna hurt you. But if you do lift, it'll probably 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: help you, especially if you do halfway decent, right, and 48 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: they're not looking for you to break a record, but 49 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: they want to make sure that you have some functional strength. Yeah, 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: functional strength. Good way to put it here in the 51 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: bench press arena, which is just a few feet from us, really, 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: as you might hear some microphone sound coming your way 53 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: or our way from there, suited up as they'll get 54 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: another group in here to lift. By the way, Salier 55 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: is he on the Vandermeyer one hundred, I think he 56 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: would be. Yeah. I think you very well would the 57 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: Vandermeyer one hundred. By the way, folks is people who 58 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: do well in press conference settings. Johnny is a Harris 59 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: one hundred, but I have started the Vandermeyer one hundred 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: and by the Thomas Booker defensive lineman from stan First, 61 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: he's going to rate very high in the Vanderber one hundred, 62 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: all right, no doubt about it. I talked to him 63 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: about Davis Mills and about their weird COVID season when 64 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: they had to bolt from northern California, and he had 65 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: a lot of cool things to say about Davis Mills. 66 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: I've got him at one sixty two in the Harris 67 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: two hundred, so well, if he's there to average out 68 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: the number of the Harris two hundred and then the 69 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: vander Meer one hundred top ten rating, I mean that 70 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: puts him really high. But I don't think they do 71 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: it that way. They don't. But he's pretty good football player. 72 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: He's an interesting guy at three hundred pounds. I don't 73 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: know what his official measurement has been. I've not seen 74 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: that can kind of play anywhere from a five technique 75 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: in a three four to a three technique, could play 76 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: with the nose if you need him too. He'd be 77 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: a guy, wouldn't be all that upset about the Texans 78 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: drafting and bringing him here. Smart dude, pretty thick, quicker 79 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: for a three hundred and three pound guy. So I'll 80 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: see what his measurements are, but I think he would 81 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: be I think it would be a nice fit. Day three, 82 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: you find a player of that caliber and that would 83 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: be awesome having an opportunity. Haven't haven't talked to him, 84 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: but just seeing the players, like I it was weird 85 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: because they're pretty much on schedule here, like if there's 86 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: one thing to combine, kind of like the ncable A tournament, 87 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: it is on time. Fifteen minutes after the game is over, 88 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: you're sitting in front of the media doing a press 89 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: conference at the ncable A tournament, your interviews at nine o'clock. 90 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: You're there at nine o'clock. Well, it was about nine 91 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: eighteen and the defensive linement had not come out, so 92 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: it was weird. It was like, wow, this is odd, 93 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 1: and there was this throng around Aiden Hutches just waiting 94 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: for Hutchinson to come on out. His dad having played 95 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: at side Fair. It was pretty interesting to listen to him, 96 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: not a not a. I mean, he's he's grown up 97 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: in the spotlight, so he gets it. He is not 98 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: cave on Thibodeau. I listened to Thibodeau for a little while. Thibodeau. 99 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: Thibodeau does not care. He will say what's on his mind. 100 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: He was sitting there talking about the New York Giants interview, 101 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, the Giants were putting me on 102 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: the spot, and they were trying to said it in 103 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: such a way that it got the follow up question, 104 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: and uh, he said something about they were hard on 105 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: they were hard on me, they were hard on me. 106 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: And so then I'm assuming it was a Giants beat 107 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: writer or whatever asked the foll up question. What were 108 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: they asking He's like, well, you know, they were just 109 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: trying to see if I was real, And it's just 110 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: the way that he went to. Botto was like that 111 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: dude is going to be gold on the mic. And 112 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: then he said, oh no, I want to be Joe 113 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: Deveon Clowney two point zero. So he wants to meet 114 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: Joeveon Clowney two point zero. And there's a lot too unbacked, 115 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: a lot like which a lord, Yes what he's a 116 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: run defender? Yes? Yes, do you want a double digit sacks? 117 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to slam j D for that? Look, health, 118 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: you should wish for better health than JD, especially year one, well, 119 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: a lot of years really come out, must be honest. 120 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: Here heck of a player and contributed to the Texans 121 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: actually having the number one defense in the league in 122 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. How about that here. I mean, if came 123 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: on Thibodeau has a year like that. I mean, I 124 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: just they Clowne got painting with that brush at beating 125 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: number one. He had to hit for the year before. 126 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: He just became a sensation. And if JD could have 127 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: just played, if JD wasn't the number one pig and 128 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: did what he did for the Texans and he played 129 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: those first two years, he could have been healthy. I 130 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: think things are completely different how he's perceived. I watched 131 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: that man. You and I both watched that man just 132 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: terrorized teams. Yeah, I mean Philadelphia twenty eighteen. Yeah, he 133 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: was the best player in the field with all Stars 134 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: and all pros all over the place. Clowney dominated that game. 135 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: He dominated that game. But the thing about Jadevia was 136 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: he chose when he wanted to do it. He chose 137 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: the days and you could see it. And it wasn't like, oh, okay, 138 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: I'll do this day, not that day, but you could 139 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: just see it. And I saw it in front of 140 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: and hopefully Cavon has learned that lesson. In this league, 141 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: you don't pick and choose if you want to be 142 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: a superstar, you show up twenty four seven, three sixty five. 143 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad to see the NFL is finally doing what 144 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: I've been asking for and suggesting for years, which is 145 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: run those forties in prime time, making a spectacle. And 146 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: last night certainly was with scorching fast times. Now, when 147 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: you're watching out NFL network, the first time you see 148 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: is unofficial, and they corrected some of the times later. 149 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: But one thing I found shocking. I wasn't in the 150 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: bowl for this. I was watching on the monitor, but 151 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: you were in the bowls and you said they don't 152 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: show the time. They had fans there last night, Right, 153 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: they don't show the time in the stadium. Correct what 154 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: you have to show the time. There's no reason not to. 155 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: I cannot think of one single reason. If the fans 156 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: at home are seeing it, you should be able to see. 157 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me. I found a little 158 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: work around with that one, although it was like a 159 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: twenty second pause. But I went on my streaming service 160 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: and I got the NFL network feed because they would 161 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: show you the time, so I would watch a guy run. 162 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: And it's interesting after you you know you do this 163 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: for a while, and you understand why scouts that have 164 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: done this for a while they can sit there. And 165 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: I ask Nick that question last week. Do you sit 166 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: there and watch a guy running, go, Okay, that's a 167 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: for six or that's a four seven, guess the time, 168 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, you kind of guests the time, so you 169 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: kind of have an idea. And so Calvin Austin, five 170 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: foot eight, one hundred seventy pound wide receiver run in Memphis. 171 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: He runs his first forty and I just remember thinking 172 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: he ran it, and the fans in the stadium don't 173 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: know what the time is, but the fans he's running 174 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: towards the fans, and the fans for one of the 175 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: few times they started clap like they like cheered because 176 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: they knew I watched those like I knew two well, 177 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: I went to my steamering service. I waited another twenty 178 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: seconds four three two. Oh man, that's smoking. And they 179 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: ran those times all night. Now. Taekwon Thornton from Baylor 180 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: ran an unofficial four two one and went back and 181 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: found the official time. It's four two eight. Now four 182 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: to two eighths is nothing to scoff at. I mean, 183 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: of course not nothing is crazy. Fact it's definitely scoff at, 184 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: but seven tenth or seven one hundreds off, Yeah, that's 185 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: it happens. And it happened to Chrystal Lave. He ran 186 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: four to six. His official time I think was four 187 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: three eight. It was was off, significant, way off the 188 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: key with Thornton was the all time best time is 189 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: John Ross's four point two two and Thornton's an official 190 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: at four point two one. It was like, did he 191 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: just do it? So you're all waiting for the official times. 192 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: Either way, the receivers scorched the track on Thursday night, 193 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: scorched the track and it was amazing to see how 194 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: fast And I got to thinking about that later on Mark. 195 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: Those used to be times that DBS ran. Yeah, it's 196 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: a different game. DBS ran those times because players were 197 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: going over. Defensive backs were going over. Players with that 198 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: speed were going over to defense. Now in college, in particular, 199 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: they're staying on the offensive side of the ball, those 200 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: offensive playmakers. Offensive eight coaches like no, no no, no, no, no, 201 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: we're not winning this thing with defense. We're gonna put 202 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: this fast guy, We're gonna put him in a slot 203 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: and he's gonna run by a quarter playing safety and 204 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna go catch football for a touchdown, and he's 205 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: gonna do that a lot. So that's why you see 206 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: these these times in these forties. It's unbelievable. Sky More 207 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: four four one from a Western Michigan you know, Chris 208 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: Lava and Garrett Wilson went four three six, four three eight. 209 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: My goodness, Calvin Austin went four three two, Wan L. 210 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: Robinson four one. I mean, these dudes were flying last night. 211 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: And how about this one. This is a guy that 212 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: I love, and I saw him in twenty nineteen. I 213 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: think it was the first time I saw. I may 214 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: have seen him in twenty eighteen, but I saw him 215 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen for sure, because I'll study in Trey Lance 216 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: and Lance on corks a deep ball early in one 217 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: of the games. I was studying, maybe at Jacksonville State, 218 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: and he launches one, and this number one seems to 219 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: come out of nowhere, and I'm like, yo, I mean, 220 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: we've seen enough. I've seen enough games. I'm like, Okay, 221 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: that dude can run. So I look him up at 222 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: His name is Christian Watson. He's from Plant High School 223 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: in Tampa, Florida. He's a track guy from Tampa Florida, 224 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: gets no offer from any of the Florida schools, takes 225 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: an offer North Dakota State sets the thing on fire. 226 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: At the Senior Bowl, he was outstanding. Mark checked this out. 227 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: Six foot four, six foot four and an eighth two 228 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: hundred and eight pounds he had, He has ten plus 229 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: inch hands, He ran a four three six thirty eight 230 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: and a half inch vertical, and he had the best 231 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: broad jump amongst the receivers eleven. What's his name again, 232 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: Christian Watson? All right, so how does he get through 233 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: the Florida schools? Exactly? That happened? Exactly that's embarrassing. Was 234 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: he one of those guys like Jacoby Jones who went 235 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: to college at like five eight and shot six two 236 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: sixty three. It might have been, I mean it might 237 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: have been, but there's so many fast athletes in the 238 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: state of Florida, and then some get painted with this 239 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: brush of oh, this is the five star guy, this 240 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: is the four star guy, and those and then at 241 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: universities kind of fall into that, and so a guy 242 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: like Christian Watson falls through the cracks and he's like, Oh, 243 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: I'll go to the Kokota States FCS Power. They'll play 244 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: on television. Thank my family can see me play in Tampa. 245 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: That dude may have made more money in the last 246 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: month with his performance as Senior Bowl. And this performance 247 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: is a combine. I got him in the I got 248 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: him in the sixties when I put it, when I 249 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: sent in it in, and he was one of my 250 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: regrets because I'm like, I think he should be higher. 251 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna end up higher and maybe 252 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: all the way into the at least the mid thirties. 253 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: But man, he was outstanding. It's just incredible what he's 254 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: done all right here at the combine. Can we start 255 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: the name dropping segment? Now, let's do it all right? 256 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: Name dropping segment three two one. Here we go. And 257 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm being facetious here, but this something about the fans 258 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: being here in the Bowl. That's nice, right, But I 259 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: think the really exciting thing about the combine is who 260 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: is here. And you don't get to see everybody. If 261 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: you're a fan, we do. It's great for us. We 262 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: can relay it to you, so moving this event. So 263 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: much of this event, it's just who you're around because 264 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: it's a working event. It's a convention of swords for 265 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: the entire National Football League and Johnny the people we've 266 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: run into just in the halls of the convention Center 267 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: and around town, and you think about all the former 268 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: Texans employees and this, you know everyone's gonna say, well, 269 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: a lot of former Texans employs. Listen, every team has 270 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: a lot of him, a lot of former employees. You know. 271 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: We always talk about how the Texans can claim Lafleura 272 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: and Sala and all these guys. Well Washington can claim 273 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: those guys too. When you have that going on around 274 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: the league, you get my drift. I mean, I was 275 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: talking to Jeff Jonia. We had him on the show 276 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: yesterday of the Bears, and you can imagine in his 277 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: twenty years with the Bears, all the former guys they have, 278 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: and but we talked to him about Lovey Smith. But 279 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: seeing folks like Charles London and Mark Lubick, who a 280 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know he's the son of Sonny Lubick, 281 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: the former Great College coach, the Lake College coach, but 282 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: TJ Yad's Anthony Weaver. I mean, the list goes on 283 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: and on. Yeah, I mean, it's incredible to just to 284 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: just be here and see people and then of course 285 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: to put faces with yo, names and faces you see 286 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: on a podcast. You might see a guy. You might 287 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: see a guy or a woman on a podcast and 288 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: go oh. And then you see that person in live 289 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that's such and such from you 290 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: know PFF, or that's somebody from the athletic And then 291 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: you get to see those people that with relationships you've 292 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: built up over the years and talked to it, and 293 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: then you start talking to people and you realize, oh, man, 294 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know you knew that guy. So mine mine 295 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: was the other day with Max Stark's former Pittsburgh Steeler. 296 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: It was we had a long range in conversation because 297 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: I coached against Max when he was in high school, 298 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: and so I told him that story about coaching against him. 299 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: I also told him the story of no. Max is 300 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: six eight three forty five as a junior in high 301 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: school and he falls a little late on my quarterback 302 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: who was six foot one hundred and sixty five pounds 303 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: My quarterback, My quarterback, I got a little mad about it. 304 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: Took the ball through at Max. So we shared a 305 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: number of stories. He does a podcast with Clint s Turner, 306 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: his cousin, his trap Jay Travis Johnson and so we 307 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: talked about the game, the famous game of the roof 308 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: being open against the Steelers and he played in that 309 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: game where the black that was bad. That was two 310 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: thousand and five. Yeah, it's just two week two at home. 311 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: And hey see we thought that, hey, the Steelers in 312 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: their black uniforms would would get hot. Yeah, well they 313 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: got hot in the field. They got hot in the 314 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: wrong way and the way you don't want to see 315 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,239 Speaker 1: them get hot. All right, Coming up on the program, 316 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: Mike Keith Voice the Titans will have JP Shadrick of 317 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com to talk about the Jags and the 318 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: entire AFC South and AFC and NFL and all of it. 319 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: It's coming up Texans Radio. It's Texans Radio at the Combine. 320 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermarin, John Harris with you, and let's visit with 321 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: our friend Mike Keith, voice of the Tennessee Titans, who 322 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: does a lot of other things as well. And it's 323 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: just so great to catch up. Here we are again. 324 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: We're together. Yes, we're together, and that's the nicest thing. 325 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: It's great to see everybody. It feels like we're we're 326 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: almost at a reunion in a way because we didn't 327 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: get to see each other for so long. It was 328 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: nice at the senior bowling. It's been really nice here too. Yeah, 329 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: you were down at the senior well, Mike, you and 330 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: I had a chance to catch up, but you got 331 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to the broadcasting game for Westwood won. It's a 332 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: little different experience because Mark and I've talked about this. 333 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: We've done the fourth preseason game together, which a lot 334 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: of times becomes like a sports talk show as opposed to, Hey, 335 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: it's third and nine, here's the play, etc. How was 336 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: that game with all the different prospects and players, because 337 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: you were doing with Pat and Jim from serious excent, 338 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: it was very strange because so many guys left on 339 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday. The prospects, the play prospects left after 340 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: they had shown well in practice. Their agents said that's enough, 341 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: you're gone, And so we didn't know exactly who was 342 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: going to play, and that was a bit that was 343 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: a bit odd because it's like, oh, yeah, so and 344 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: so's not here, and they certainly didn't want to publicize 345 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: that for you know, because some of the better names 346 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: left the game. But the game turned out great. Jim 347 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: Miller and Pat Kerwin are fantastic. Both just so incredibly knowledgeable, 348 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: and it was so much fun to work with them, 349 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,359 Speaker 1: and it was just it was a really really good experience. 350 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: It was scary, yeah, because I didn't know exactly how 351 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: we were gonna do it. They told me, they go, oh, 352 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: we'll just show up and go, And that's not exactly 353 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: how we roll, isn't Mark, Not all the time you 354 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: have to though, sometimes you have to. I had to 355 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville this year when I got there sixty five 356 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: minutes before kickoff because of the Southwest pilots problem. Yeah, 357 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: and uh, that was terrifying. And then I realized I'd 358 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: picked up the wrong briefcase and I brought I had 359 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: brought none of my notes for the Jags game for 360 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: the jagame. Fortunately it was Titans Jags, so I knew 361 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: both teams pretty well. Second one it was an one, 362 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: but that was the weekend all the pilots called off 363 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: and so they canceled every flight out of everywhere. I 364 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: have nightmares about that. Wait, do you have the play 365 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: by play nightmare of? And I have this one. You 366 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: know how people have recurring dreams of you get to 367 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: the final exam. You haven't been in class all semester. 368 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: I have that one. I have I can't get to 369 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: the booth and kickoff is about to happen. I have 370 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: that one a lot relatively. Yeah, where I can't the 371 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: elevator is not working, or my booth is I can't 372 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: see the field from the booth. That do you have 373 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: stuff like I said, yes all the time? Or I 374 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: don't know who's playing. Yeah, I've been asked to call 375 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: a high school game and I get everything wrong and 376 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: parents won't be dead. Oh, parents in high schools whole 377 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: he smokes. Oh, it's tough, Michael. Ryan Tannehill, I'm sure 378 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: there's a question that you've probably gotten nationally, probably what 379 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: you get locally. What is the what is the future 380 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: for Ryan Tannehill in Tennessee And what's the feeling about 381 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: Ryan locally? For Ryan Tannehill, Ryan tannehill' is the Titans quarterback. 382 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna be the Titans quarterback barring something unforeseen, knock 383 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: on wood, He's gonna take the first snap on September eleventh, 384 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: And that's the way it is. Um. There are a 385 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: lot of reasons why, but the number one reason is 386 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: the Titans are thirty two and sixteen with him behind center, 387 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: didn't have a great twenty twenty one, he did not 388 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: have a good game against the Bengals. There's no doubt 389 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: about it. He made a bad choice at the end 390 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: of that ball game. But the sample size is such 391 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: and where we've been at the quarterback position in the 392 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: years what seven, eight, ten years before that, almost dating 393 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: back to Steve McNair. Although Matt Hasselbeck had a good 394 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: year for us, but our quarterback play killed us for 395 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: years because they were either unavailable, or they didn't play 396 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: well enough, or I mean, you name it. He has 397 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: given us stability and John Robinson is not going away 398 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: from that. He's got to play better. He's got to 399 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: get back to twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, Ryan Tannehill. He's 400 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: got to take care of the ball better. We got 401 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: to help him more. But you guys saw him in 402 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: the last game of the season. He won the game 403 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: for us because the Texans are on a roll. If 404 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: we don't go down and score right there to make 405 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: it twenty eight eighteen, we're losing that ball game. We 406 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: have lost every bit of momentum. Davis Mills has got 407 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: our number. You guys have seen that movie before, when 408 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: when you take your foot off the gas, it's hard 409 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: to get it back on. And the Titans had totally 410 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: taken their foot off the gains. They lost it that 411 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: they are losing that football game if not for the 412 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: play the quarterback makes, which people forget he's being sacked. 413 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: He throws a guy off his back, somehow gets out 414 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: to the right, completes a forty yard pass, takes the 415 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: team down for a touchdown, and then makes the plays 416 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: in the last drive to keep the ball so Davis 417 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: Mills doesn't get it back. The bottom line is, that's 418 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: why he's going to be the quarterback going forward, because 419 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: he has done that for us consistently in forty eight games. 420 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: I had blot that one out, I know. And this 421 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: is why I love this game, because I have heard 422 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: obviously your called mark of that play and I've heard right. 423 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: And it's just interesting to listen to the two different 424 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: versions of the same play those perspectives, because it's knife 425 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: to the heart to us, sure, and for you guys, 426 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: with all that's on the line that day, had to 427 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: have it. You had to have it. And he somehow 428 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: gets out of it, and then not only gets out 429 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: of it, he then throws it up to field and 430 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: it's it's just the dichotomy of the two calls, which 431 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: is what to me, that's really cool. The point what 432 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: I was not meaning to rub it in. I'm just 433 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: saying that's forgotten right now because of what happened in 434 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: the playoff game. Yeah, John Robinson and Mike Vrabel are 435 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: not forgetting right, and so Ryan's gonna be the quarterback. Yeah. No, 436 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: it's a great point you bring up because number one 437 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: seed on the line. If you don't get that, I mean, 438 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: my gosh, then you'll be talking about that game instead 439 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: of the playoff game. And when that changed the narrative, 440 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: because I always think it's interesting in this league. You 441 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: could take nothing for granted. You're playing a Texans team 442 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: that hasn't won. You know, they won four games going in. 443 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: Look at the Jags and the Colts. You never have 444 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: to apologize for winning the Jags and the Colts. Colts 445 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: would have, could have, should have obvious beating the Jaguars 446 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: get into the postseason. They didn't. But the Titans did 447 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: their job. The difference was quarterback play. The difference was 448 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: the Titans quarterback play in Houston and the Colts quarterback 449 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: play against Jacksonville, and in those moments, you've got to 450 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: have that guy. Ryan's got to play better. There's no 451 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: doubt about it. Ryan knows that it's a It's a 452 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: different time and at a completely different scenario as we 453 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: move into twenty twenty two. But the reality is they're 454 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: not going to panic just because there's a reaction of 455 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: a certain way. Mike. Offensively, there's no Derrick Henry for 456 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: a good majority of that season. Defensively, that was a 457 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: completely different nude. And I went into twenty twenty one going, now, 458 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: I believe it when I see it. We've been talking 459 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: about Titans defense for a while and then you went, 460 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: oh boy, that defense is different. What are the needs 461 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: for this team in twenty twenty two, Ryan solidified a quarterback, 462 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: getting Derek back healthy. He'll say those two things happen. 463 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: How do John and Mike them build this team with 464 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: what they've already got? Great question, because from our standpoint, 465 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: the challenge is going to be how do they negotiate 466 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: the cap stuff? Over the next few weeks, Titans are 467 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: gonna have to make some moves to figure out the 468 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: cap thing. What they do will largely determine the direction 469 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna need to go in terms of needs. So 470 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: when you've had some success, and you know this with 471 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: the Texans winning the division four times, is you get 472 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: at those points where you have to make the hard calls. 473 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: John's gonna make the hard calls and so there will 474 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: be people who depart and then they will have to 475 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: figure out exactly how they do that. Now, on the surface, 476 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: taking that out, that's the correct answer. But just the 477 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: overriding Titans need tight ends and don't have any tight 478 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 1: ends under contract. None, none right now. Now they can 479 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: get one or two back and there'll be someone free agency. 480 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: The draft looks good for that. Probably gonna need help 481 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: in the offensive line because they're gonna have to be 482 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: moves made in the offensive line in order to free 483 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: some money. It's gonna happen. So you've you've got that. Defensively, 484 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: I think they're looking for pass rushers. What you saw 485 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: and the reason this defense was better. You run what 486 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: Mike wants to do. You better have edge guys. Well 487 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: guess what they had edge guys. So they're trying to 488 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: resign Harold Landry bud Dupree will have a full year, 489 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: but they're gonna want a young guy or two to 490 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: put into that mix. And you're always looking for corners. 491 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean we've we've played corners over the last two years. 492 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: I mean we started a couple of corners in a 493 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: game against Patrick Mahomes that weren't on the team five 494 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: days before. So you know, you just got a stock 495 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: up on those guys. Absolutely, yeah, there's no doubt. I mean, 496 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: the defensive backs, it's like left handed pitching in baseball, 497 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, absolutely have to have it all right. So 498 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: what do you think of what the Jags did in 499 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: hiring Doug Peterson and where they're headed? Great higher, great high, 500 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: perfect higher for the quarterback, guy who's had experienced, guy 501 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: who's one guy who's lost so he knows what this 502 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: game is NFL guy. It's my whole question about Urban 503 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: Meyer is could he handle losing? Turns out? The answers no, 504 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: because that's I mean, that's what this league is all about. 505 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean, to use the baseball analogy, you've got to, 506 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: you know, handle the seven times you don't get a 507 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: hit in order to get the hit in the three 508 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: other at bats and be a three hundred hitter. Handling 509 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: failure is part of this where all our thirty one teams, 510 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: at least you're sitting here right now thinking we didn't 511 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, the year wasn't great. Only one 512 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: team has great. You can have good, but you only 513 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: one team has great, and you've got to handle it. 514 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: That's what Doug Peterson will do for them. I don't 515 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: think they're that far away. I didn't think they were 516 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: that far away last year. I didn't think they handled 517 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: what they had very well. When we saw them both games, 518 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 1: you were kind of left scratching your head some unlike 519 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: what we saw with David Culley and what we saw 520 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: with the Texans, when they played very well and they 521 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: were competitive, there were points that Jacksonville was like, boy, 522 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: this doesn't make a lot of sense, right, what's going 523 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: on here in Jacksonville. So I think the Doug Peterson 524 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: higher is excellent. So the three of us get a 525 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: chance to see the Innneapolis Colts twice a year. We 526 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: lost to him this year. They had our number this year, 527 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: for sure, Titans had their number this year. Carson Wentz 528 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: presumably not the answer, Mike, Giving what we know about 529 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: the Colts, what would you do if you're Chris Ballard 530 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: and Frank Wright at the quarterback position. Million dollars. I 531 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: don't really want to give them any advice. They're listening, 532 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: keep keep Carson, Um I try to trade for one 533 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: of the veterans, I would get out there. I would 534 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: offer them whatever it took for Russell Wilson. I would 535 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: offer the Texans whatever it took for Deshaun Watson. I 536 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: would be Yeah, that's a non starter for me. Okay, 537 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: I understand it. But I understand it's a non starter. Um. 538 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: So I asked this question so I would be right 539 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: in the middle of that in order to try to 540 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: get because listen, that's a real that's a really good 541 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: football team. They were they when he wasn't beating them, Yeah, 542 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: beating them. And that's the whole thing is when he 543 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: was taking care of the football, because like it was 544 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: interesting against us. The first game he was hurt, he 545 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: played on a bad ankle, and so throw that out. 546 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: That wasn't fair. The second game when he was playing, well, 547 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: they were kicking our tails. But then he made mistakes 548 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: and it and it beat them. And that's the whole 549 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: thing is they just it's almost like they need Frank 550 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: Reich at quarterback. Keep it just keep it between the digits. 551 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Tannehill would be perfect for them right now. 552 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor with the that's that's what they that's what 553 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: they need at this moment. So the answer question, or 554 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: the follow up question to that is how good is 555 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: that team? If they have a guy of that, They're 556 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: real good. They are. Really they're really salty on defense, 557 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean really salty. The running backs, the real thing, 558 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: the offensive line. They've spent a bunch of draft capital, 559 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of money on it. I mean, that's a 560 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: really good football team. They don't have the capital to 561 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: make a good deal though, since they don't shift their 562 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: one away for Carson Wentz. My god, that's the extra 563 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: kick in the teeth is if they do this and 564 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: say goodbye to him, they're out fifteen million dollars and 565 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: they're out there one and they were out of three 566 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: from last year to go nine to eight, and you're 567 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: not going to get anything back for him really substance, well, 568 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: his contracts. It's interesting with his contract. Of course, they've 569 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: got to make a decision five days into the league 570 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: year or else they owe him everything. It's so they're 571 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: they're on a time crunch. But if they could trade. 572 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: It's a very friendly contract, you know. That was one 573 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: of the things is for the next three years, they 574 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: would have owed him just seventy two million dollars and 575 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: he would have been just thirty two at the end 576 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: of the contract, meaning if that had worked, it would 577 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: have been a home run. It would have been a 578 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: grand slam. My Keith, voice of the Titans joining us. 579 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about new stadium prospects in Nashville. 580 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: It's interesting because that's just gotten out that the discussions 581 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: have changed. I mean, what they got into is our 582 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: stadium was built. A lot of the h ok facilities 583 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: were built almost identical. Cincinnati was one, Tampa was one, 584 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was one. They were all kind of the same thing. 585 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: Our land acquisition was about forty percent of the cost. 586 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: The stadium cost one hundred and sixty two million dollars. 587 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god. So they so they had to get 588 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: it there, get it up, get it going, because you 589 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: can't build the bathrooms now, for one. So what they 590 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: wanted to do they had a really great plan and 591 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: they've got a really great plan to develop the river front. 592 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: They were going to spend about five six hundred million 593 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: to redo the stadium because everybody likes the location, YadA, YadA, YadA. Yeah, 594 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: well they get into it and it's going to be 595 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: a million two to do what they thought was gonna 596 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: be six hundred million. A billion to excuse me, I'm 597 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: not used to saying billion one point two billion dollars 598 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: instead of six hundred million. Oh baby. So now they're saying, Okay, 599 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: if we're gonna spend that, why don't we go ahead 600 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: and do something in the front parking lots closer to 601 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: the interstate and then we can keep playing in Nissan Stadium. 602 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: So let's investigate that. That's what's happening right now. And 603 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: is that close enough to the river to develop the river? Oh? Absolutely, 604 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: it gives them more to develop when you would knock 605 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: down theoretically, when you knock down Nissan Stadium at that point, 606 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: then there would be more development closer to the river, 607 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: which the mayor likes very much. Okay, So Nashville, since 608 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: I've been in the league and been you know, I'd 609 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: never been to Nashville until I've started doing Texans games 610 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: at Tennessee. How has Nashville changed in your opinion over 611 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: the last twenty years? Well, it's a cosmopolitan, metropolitan, top 612 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: twenty five national city. And that was the vision that 613 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: the mayor had when he brought the Titans in and 614 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: he brought the Predators in and he did some various 615 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: things with industry. That he did is he thought, because 616 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: of our location, like we drive from here four hours, 617 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: we can fly anywhere out of Nashville. Basically you can 618 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: get anywhere in the country out of Nashville in essence, 619 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: in four to five hours, and you can fly internationally now. 620 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: And so I mean, it's just it's crazy for somebody 621 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: who's from there. I mean, Nashville wasn't as big as Memphis, 622 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: and now Nashville Dwarf's Memphis, And it's really just hard 623 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: to believe from the mindset. Mike, you're not talking about 624 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: this at the Senior Bowl, and I've been after Mark 625 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: telling him that he's got to see this. But you 626 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: were involved with the documentary called More Than a Game, 627 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: I think is what it is called, and it's about 628 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: the legendary voices of the Southeastern Conference, and it is 629 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: it's every emotion. It's funny, it's informative, it is emotional. 630 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really a great project. Hey, how did 631 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: you get involved in that and be what did you 632 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: think of the final product when it was done? And 633 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: see how much does the voice that Texans have to 634 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: see that? Well, I think he loves the craft as 635 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 1: much as I do. I think he would enjoy it, 636 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: even if he doesn't know those people as well as 637 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: I do, because I grew up with them. Kenny Chesney's 638 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: production company did it. That's Tackle Box Productions. They had 639 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: an idea for it. It was largely based on my 640 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: mentor John Ward at the University of Tennessee, and they 641 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: wanted to kind of take Larry Munson at Georgia and 642 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: John warden Tennessee and show how different they were and 643 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 1: yet how beloved they were and how good they were 644 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: at their jobs. And yet they found all these other 645 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: characters kay Would Ludford at Kentucky, Jack Crystal Mississippi State, 646 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: multiple announcers on Auburn and Alabama, and different people, different places. 647 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: And so we got to talking about it and I 648 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: kind of got involved. I was not a I was 649 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: not a producer or anything like that, but I did 650 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: help them with some ideas and things like that because 651 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: I knew these guys and I think what they put 652 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: together was really a lot of fun. Yeah, it was great. 653 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean it just it just spoke to how much 654 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: a voice of a team and the passion for that team, 655 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: and however it's disseminated well, and how different and how 656 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: different everybody is. It's a lot of personalities, and it's 657 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: a lot of styles and no one style is right. 658 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: UM's It's really really a cool thing. Yeah, I'm fascinated 659 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: with the history of radio and this this might be 660 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: self serving, but as far as play by play goes, 661 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: I really believe the NFL is the number one thing, 662 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: not only because of the sport, but because of NFL 663 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: films and the way our calls are put on the 664 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 1: highlights that you see every week. And I just saw 665 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: the mashup for the teams playing in Europe and they 666 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: use all the local play by play guys Dave Pash 667 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: and Gene Deckerhoff and the rest of the guys cannons. Yeah, 668 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: and I think it's uh, I think a father cannons 669 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: in Europe, but bring the cannons. Well. When I see 670 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: what happens over the years with the location of certain 671 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: radio boots and things like that, that obviously bothers me. 672 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: But it's a tremendous situation to be in. Right. Well, 673 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: you know, it was always the baseball guys, and I 674 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: think the difference you've hit it on the head. The 675 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: difference is films, films and social media kind of makes 676 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: rock stars out of announcers now, whereas before it was 677 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: all the baseball guys. It was always all the baseball guys, 678 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: and now it's it's quite different. So we're lucky to 679 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: be a part of this. Yeah, I think the baseball 680 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: thing and what the younger folk don't understand is that 681 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: there was a day when the baseball games weren't on television, 682 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: right most of them, and you would listen to the radio. It. Yeah, 683 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: we got that. We got the Cubs and the Braves 684 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: where I lived, and that was it. And otherwise you 685 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: listened on the radio, or you watched Monday Night Baseball 686 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: or Tony Kubeck and Joe Gil on Saturday after exactly. Mike, 687 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for being with us, Thanks for having me. 688 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: There's Mike Keith, voice of the Tennessee Titans. One more 689 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: segment for the week here at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, 690 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: and it's with JP Shadrick. National College football voice and 691 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: also works for Jaguars dot Com. Our visit with him 692 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: next Tom Texans Radio, final chapter from Indie for us 693 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: here on Texans All Access. But we have plenty more 694 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: on the Texans App and podcasts and articles and videos 695 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: and all of it coming your way on social media 696 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: on all these platforms that we have like tick talk, Snapchat, Facebook. 697 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,479 Speaker 1: Don't make me list them all, make me introduce JP 698 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: Shadrick please, who works for Jaguars dot Com also does 699 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: play by play for college football nationally. And here's our 700 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: visit with JP. It's nice to be here in Indianapolis 701 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: finally on Friday. It's I know, I missed the big 702 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: show earlier in the week, had some other stuff going on, 703 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: and good to get in for I haven't been in 704 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: here in like four years, so to see people again. 705 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: I normally don't travel during NFL season, so I'm in Jacksonville, 706 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 1: so seeing faces out on the road like you guys. 707 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: It's great. JP. It's been a whirlwind for not only 708 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: the Texans but for the Jags. Yes, Urban Meyer experienced 709 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: the last at all about three and a half months, 710 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: maybe longer. The Doug Peterson experience seems like it's a 711 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: much smoother ride. What say you? A few weeks into 712 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: his tenure, the interactions we've had with Doug have been 713 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: incredibly positive. He's just a warm, open person, I think, 714 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: first of all, and I think you have to be 715 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: careful with him in our role on Jaguars dot Com 716 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: and Jags Media and Radio of not over asking because 717 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 1: at least in the past in Philadelphia, he never said 718 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: no to those kind of things. So he's open to 719 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: a lot of different ideas and things about covering the team, 720 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: which from our perspective is fantastic. From a football perspective, 721 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: the guy has done it at every level he played. 722 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: He was a backup for two Hall of famers and 723 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: Marino and Farv obviously went through the ranks as a coach, 724 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: was a high school coach for a few years, and 725 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: then worked his way through Andy Reid system and here 726 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: you go. He's got a Super Bowl ring to go 727 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: with it. But he also has that personality, at least 728 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: so far that I've seen, he doesn't have to go 729 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: prove it to you, like you know that he has 730 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: success and he knows what it's supposed to look and 731 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: feel like, but he doesn't have to flash that ring 732 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: all the time. It's just a sense of calm around him. 733 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: He had his coaching staff hired in two weeks because 734 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: he had started that process back in November for even 735 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: though there was this job going to be opening it, 736 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: you know whatever, just in case. So the worry was, Hey, 737 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna be behind. Maybe No, he's just fine. Everything's fine, 738 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: everything's calm. And I think that's calmed the owner's mind too, 739 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 1: because now they're not going to hire an executive vice 740 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: president after seeing him on the job for just a 741 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: little while here. Yeah, it sounds kind of like the 742 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: Texans situation with Levey Smith, where you just feel sort 743 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: of stabilized with the whole thing and you have a 744 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: veteran coach in there to run things. J. P. Shadwick, 745 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com with US Trevor Lawrence year two with Peterson, 746 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: this could be a problem around the AFC South for 747 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: the rest of us. So what do you make of 748 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: what the offense is going to look like with Peterson 749 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: at the Helm? Now you know what it feels like, 750 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: you're about to feel pay for years hopefully we've been 751 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: dealing with it for decades now. It's he needs some 752 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: help around him obviously to throw the football too. First 753 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: of all, I mean there's been so much inconsistency receiver 754 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 1: the last few years, not just last year with Trevor, 755 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: but that's an overall issue for the Jags. And then 756 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: you got to protect the guy. So that's the question. Hey, 757 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 1: are they going to be able to figure out something 758 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: with Cam Robinson or then draft David Neel or is 759 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: it going to be a defensive draft. That's all talk 760 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: for the next month and a half. I think here 761 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: and Dug talk about it. They're not scared to go 762 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: back and look at that college tape a little bit 763 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: more than I think Urban and that previous crew was 764 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: wanting to put in there a little more of the 765 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: read option uses legs mobility. I don't think they're scared 766 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: of that as much. I think the last crew was 767 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: scared of him just getting ripped and lit up, and 768 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: they didn't use that a whole lot. But it's his 769 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: comfort zone. He needs a little bit of that to 770 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: mix it up. And at times when they played in 771 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: that scheme last year, from time to time he was successful. 772 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: He got some. You don't want to do it all 773 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: the time. So I think there's so many cooks in 774 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: the kitchen now Trevor. But it's all gonna go back 775 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: to Doug. He's gonna be able to filter all that out, 776 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 1: get Trevor's input on it as well, what he likes 777 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: and doesn't like. I think you're gonna see a mix 778 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: of a few different things, and a lot of that 779 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: might go back to the clips that looked too JP 780 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: not at number one potentially, and maybe it is at 781 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: number one. What's the biggest need for the Jaguars going 782 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: into twenty twenty two and beyond. What's the biggest need? 783 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: Is it someone for Trevor to throw the football too 784 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: and have that consistent wide receiver weapons, it somebody to 785 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: protect him or is it somebody making plays on the 786 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: defensive side, which you know Josh has made a few plays. 787 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: I mean Josh intercepted Josh Allen intercepted Josh Allen last year, 788 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: which was a cool moment. Had they gotten enough from 789 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, They got enough from Caleb and Chason. Where 790 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: is the biggest need in your opinion on this team? 791 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: To your point on Josh Allen, that was his best 792 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: game and arguably the best game of his career when 793 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: he had the interception, he had a sack, He had 794 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: a fumble recovery off Josh Allen against the Bills in 795 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: a nine to six win. That doesn't happen often in 796 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, but you're the team that beat the 797 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: Colts six nothing a few years if you got that right, 798 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: So we are that team. We can win, you know, 799 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 1: a shootout six nothing. We can do that. So that's 800 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: one thing, Jason. I don't think he's lived up at 801 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: the expectation. Obviously as the first round pick. He was 802 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: twentieth overall. He just hasn't a been on the field 803 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: a lot. B when he's out there, just doesn't have 804 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: that explosion finished at least. Yeah, maybe he can still 805 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: grow into it, don't know. I think the biggest need 806 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: to answer your question, though, is a consistent outside deep 807 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: threat at wide receiver. Number one receiver DJ Chart could 808 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: be that guy. He's a free agent coming up. It's 809 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: nineteen million dollars to franchise him. That's a lot of 810 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: cash for a guy who's wouldn't gone to one Pro 811 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: Bowl and he had a broken leg last year. So okay, 812 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: beyond that, I mean this because you don't hasn't been 813 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: consistent catching the football. I had a bunch of drops 814 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: last year. Hasn't been able to prove that he can 815 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 1: separate down the field. Marvin Jones Junior was a nice addition, 816 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: but he's going into year eleven. Yeah, he's not gonna 817 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: explode past anybody. He's a great too. He's gonna catch 818 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: the football. Yeahs two. I don't know that he is 819 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: a even a solid one, but he's a tremendous two 820 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: possession guy. A guy you're a third down, you need seven, Okay, 821 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna run eight. He's gonna catch it. It's he's 822 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: gonna have a catch. He's gotta catching like a hundred 823 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: and something straight games like it's ridiculous. So you know 824 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: he's gonna be there. But they don't have that playmaker. 825 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: And you look at the Chiefs, you look at the Bills. 826 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: They got guys that can outrun anybody and get open 827 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: at any time, and that's really the biggest need at 828 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: number one overall. I don't know if they can do 829 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: that though, considering the prospects that are out there this year, 830 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: but hey, number thirty three overall, you can partlay that 831 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 1: and move back up into the bottom of the first 832 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 1: and get your hopefully a pick of some good wide receivers. There. 833 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 1: There's J P. Shadreck Jaguars dot Com and Touchdown Radio, 834 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: national college football radio guy. That's gonna do it for 835 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: our combine radio shows here from Indianapolis. But we'll have 836 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,240 Speaker 1: plenty more to talk about next week, plenty more audio 837 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: from this week videos on Houston Texans dot com and 838 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: the Texans App. Have a great night, everyone, and go Texans.