Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up.
Speaker 2: How are you doing there?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. Uh, what's your name, cowboy?
Speaker 2: My name is Julian, but you can call me Jude
Speaker 2: bro Jude Jude.
Speaker 1: You sent me a message and you said, I'm thirty
Speaker 1: one and I want to talk about being a jigglo.
Speaker 1: For those who don't know a jiggalo. At first, I
Speaker 1: thought it's a juggalo. A juggalo is is someone who's
Speaker 1: a fan of the insane clown posse. But a jigglo
Speaker 1: is a male prostitute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh yeah, yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Hey, I mean you you're the one who said you
Speaker 1: are one, so I'll tell you.
Speaker 2: What I am. I mean, you know, I definitely do
Speaker 2: sex work for a dollar bill and it's it's fun,
Speaker 2: it's enjoyable. But recently I came to the conclusion that
Speaker 2: I can do it because any connections with people. Mm
Speaker 2: hmmm mmmm. So for two and a half months I
Speaker 2: made like six k and uh. Then I got to
Speaker 2: the point where I was like, man, I think I'm
Speaker 2: doing this for the right reasons, but I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm doing for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get into that. What's well, let's start, well,
Speaker 1: what are the what are the right reasons in your
Speaker 1: in your opinion.
Speaker 2: Money money, that's on the right reason to do text work?
Speaker 2: I don't see if any I mean, if you have
Speaker 2: a kink, which I do many of them, but for
Speaker 2: the most part is literally just because of money. If
Speaker 2: I you know, my car broke down, I live in
Speaker 2: the middle of Maine.
Speaker 1: So and then what are the wrong reasons? As you say, oh.
Speaker 2: It's definitely like you know, possibilities of std people getting
Speaker 2: like hurt when you grow a room, or you know,
Speaker 2: you get robbed, catch your situations, you know, people doing
Speaker 2: gnarly things around you. So it gets cool.
Speaker 1: It's good though, is can I ask you that is prostitute?
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to are You're not supposed to say prostitute?
Speaker 2: I think I think so like un aliveing is a
Speaker 2: new thing. So it's like prostitute. And you know, I
Speaker 2: mean I am a prostitute, a male prostitute. I didn't
Speaker 2: know how to word it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean as we Well, I you're I'm
Speaker 1: asking you because you're you are, so I don't know
Speaker 1: what you prefer.
Speaker 2: Yes, sair No, Well, I mean it's cool. I just
Speaker 2: needed to talk to somebody outside of who I know
Speaker 2: because I live in Maine and I don't have any
Speaker 2: family here. So for the most part, it's literally like
Speaker 2: just me and my dog. Logis nice.
Speaker 1: Nice, that's cool. So how did you How did you
Speaker 1: get into this?
Speaker 2: I actually was I was on Reddit trying to search
Speaker 2: for a kink of mine that I enjoy doing, and
Speaker 2: her husband hits you up and asked me if I
Speaker 2: want to come see his wife. I said uh, but
Speaker 2: he slaked out, and two weeks later he hits him again,
Speaker 2: and this time he has another girl he wants to
Speaker 2: actualssit me up with. But I'm already talking to said
Speaker 2: girl on Messenger, like we were already playing the hook
Speaker 2: up and everything. So I sent her a picture that
Speaker 2: he sent me. I was like, bro, this is and
Speaker 2: she was like, yeah, what's up? I said, oh my,
Speaker 2: oh my. So so it ended up her coming through
Speaker 2: on a Thursday, and that was about total September twenty fifth,
Speaker 2: k third, and then September twenty fifth on I was
Speaker 2: be in a.
Speaker 1: Interesting So do you mainly service service women?
Speaker 2: That's all I serviced there?
Speaker 1: Oh you only service women?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, m yeah, So if this guy. It's a
Speaker 2: particular guy enjoys to see I'm a man of color.
Speaker 2: You could say I have pigment on the skin, so
Speaker 2: he enjoys seeing me with them.
Speaker 1: Whoa, oh, so these are guys with so these these
Speaker 1: these are guys I think they're like, Okay, yeah, So
Speaker 1: you get mainly hired by men with cuck fetishes who
Speaker 1: want to see a black guy have sex with their wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: Wo and now is it? And it's the guys that
Speaker 1: are hitting you up mainly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, Nine times out of ten, the females doesn't
Speaker 2: even want it, doesn't have any like desires to go
Speaker 2: find a big black man to get picked down by. Instead,
Speaker 2: they husband goes out and doesn't sing. And I mean
Speaker 2: they're really nice people too. I mean I've had some
Speaker 2: come pick me up, bring me like a six pack
Speaker 2: of beer while we're driving back to the house, freaking
Speaker 2: I have two Can I say the green leaf choking
Speaker 2: green leaves? There? Okay? Cool? But for the most part,
Speaker 2: they're really freaking nice guys. The only word part about
Speaker 2: it is when he's standing in the corner. That's when
Speaker 2: I'm like kind of throwing off a little bit, you know.
Speaker 1: But aren't the guys Like, isn't the whole thing is
Speaker 1: that they're paying you to sit in the corner.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. They can do that.
Speaker 2: They can do anything they want really in the corner.
Speaker 2: It's just to lead up to that's pretty awesome too.
Speaker 2: But just them in the corner sometimes gets in my
Speaker 2: brain like this, ain't it?
Speaker 1: Now? How often is this? Is this the woman's idea
Speaker 1: and she'll call you and be like, hey, I want
Speaker 1: you to have sex with me while my husband watches.
Speaker 2: Zero? Really like none, It's definitely more of a mindset
Speaker 2: of than man wanting to give up his property type
Speaker 2: stuff in my point of view. But what do I know?
Speaker 1: Okay, well, how do they tip like when you talk like,
Speaker 1: how do they typically feel about the arrangement in general?
Speaker 2: They really they really are actually pretty open, pretty honest,
Speaker 2: like literally tell me what they would love me to do.
Speaker 2: Their wife, They really asked me, Hey can you set
Speaker 2: her out for me? Can you do this?
Speaker 1: I met, I met, I met, I met the wives.
Speaker 2: Oh they love it. Oh when I show up, I'm
Speaker 2: actually I'm not a good looking guy. I'm okay, you know,
Speaker 2: but I'm also living Maine, so it's not really like
Speaker 2: a very big pool to choose them. So it's even
Speaker 2: take up here. Mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I assume if people are paying you for
Speaker 1: sex that you're you're a you're a you're a good
Speaker 1: looking guy. How tall are you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Six three?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Okay, let me know when you're free.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Now, it's I'm actually like, I'm just a
Speaker 2: kink in Maine. I'm actually just a bull. It's kind
Speaker 2: of cool, and it's brand new for me. I was
Speaker 2: in a relation of five years before this, and she
Speaker 2: just left me in August. Hush fellow just left me
Speaker 2: in August, and I've been doing solo dollo for since then.
Speaker 1: And really, so your your ex girlfriend? How did she
Speaker 1: feel about your profession?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I didn't talk to the profession until she
Speaker 2: left in August.
Speaker 1: And oh really, so here you're still very new to this.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I've been doing kink thing for for a
Speaker 2: long time. I just happened to get paid.
Speaker 1: For it now, Okay, all right, do you are you
Speaker 1: like trying to pursue like, like an actual relationship. And
Speaker 1: in addition to the world we're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually I am as funny story. You actually talked
Speaker 2: to her like two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Wait, I spoke to your girlfriend?
Speaker 2: Yeah he did.
Speaker 1: Who who was she?
Speaker 2: Uh? Lisia? She was no. I can't know what she
Speaker 2: talks about though, but uh she said she got to
Speaker 2: talk to you, and I was like, oh, let's dope.
Speaker 2: And then today we're watching the streams as they call?
Speaker 2: But is that cool? Oh?
Speaker 1: Do you remember what we talked about?
Speaker 2: Baby? What do I talk about? Sorry?
Speaker 1: I live in because if I were her and I
Speaker 1: was calling this show, I would have I probably would
Speaker 1: have talked about how my boyfriend is a jiggielow.
Speaker 2: That's what I told her. I asked that. She asked, what, babe,
Speaker 2: I can't hear? Come here? Oh Dix and sex addiction?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, yes, yes, yes, yes, I remember. I remember. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think we put that in the bonus episode. Well, okay, so,
Speaker 1: so Jude, how does she well, how does she feel
Speaker 1: about well? Okay, so yeah, how does she feel about
Speaker 1: your profession?
Speaker 2: Now? Oh? Because of her, I'm actually kind of stopping
Speaker 2: it because I can't get out of my head that
Speaker 2: she's somewhere that I'm not and we play together, so
Speaker 2: it's not like it's the whole entire it's a job.
Speaker 2: At the same time, it's now affecting my home life
Speaker 2: and I'm not cool with that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Now may I ask, oh, how much do
Speaker 1: you get paid to have sex with these people?
Speaker 2: Two hundred dollars a front and then money as you.
Speaker 1: Go, money out so you they you get, you get,
Speaker 1: you get tipped based on performance.
Speaker 2: But a yeah, but a baseline is too fifty there?
Speaker 1: Okay? Can I ask what's the most amount you've gotten
Speaker 1: off of one? Uh one?
Speaker 2: Well, one time it was a weekend. It was a weekend.
Speaker 2: I got twelve dollars for the weekend. Nice two days,
Speaker 2: it's like forty eight hours.
Speaker 1: And how do these people not like like you don't
Speaker 1: need to plug your website or anything, but just in general,
Speaker 1: like how do they how do they find you?
Speaker 2: They just find me. I don't I don't put my
Speaker 2: ads at there and sell anything, guys asked, and then
Speaker 2: I just say, hey, but I as well as that
Speaker 2: I also do this for that.
Speaker 1: So have you ever showed up and you're talking to
Speaker 1: a couple and you can just tell that like that
Speaker 1: that this relationship is Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. When they're streaming saying thank you, Jude, I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, yeah, you guys are that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can get that part in
Speaker 2: your relationship to be like, yo, I want this big
Speaker 2: black man some be you down real quick and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna enjoy it in my hand. I'm like, dog, I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't even do that, but I'll do it for you.
Speaker 2: I'll get paid for it, no problem.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Would you ever pay a fat white guy with
Speaker 1: a small pianist to have sex with girlfriends?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes I would. I mean I'll say to see
Speaker 2: it happen for sure? Why not? I mean we can
Speaker 2: get we get to get costs and everything.
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh god, no, no, no, no, I wasn't talking.
Speaker 2: I thought you're trying. You know.
Speaker 1: I was not talking.
Speaker 2: About me.
Speaker 1: Or I mean maybe I was, fuck it, but anyway, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, So Jude, Yes, so you said so, you
Speaker 1: said you'll you'll go in there and there'll be couples
Speaker 1: who are fighting with each other like they're screaming, and
Speaker 1: they'll you'll get involved in the fight.
Speaker 2: I mean, that'd be cool. Ever done before. But no,
Speaker 2: they don't do that. Kind of stuff I wish they did.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, do I any more? That's cool? I
Speaker 2: can do that, do you?
Speaker 1: But do you ever get because I okay. So, so
Speaker 1: the like the escort experience or like the stripper experience,
Speaker 1: like the sex worker experience, it's a lot of it
Speaker 1: is also just like like talking right, Like there's the
Speaker 1: sex part and then there's like the the girlfriend experience,
Speaker 1: like do you ever get out the boyfriend experience? Like
Speaker 1: what's what's that pay for?
Speaker 2: So the guy that first me, he pays me the most.
Speaker 2: He's says, you females, but there's a there's some chances
Speaker 2: that I go snack, uh cut for like cux flies
Speaker 2: for money, hotwives for money. So when it comes down
Speaker 2: to like the boyfriend, that's pretty much what the guy
Speaker 2: that Samy was wanting. I was going to places around
Speaker 2: Maine and showing off women and uh he through clothes,
Speaker 2: would you say, like a very revealing clothes and uh
Speaker 2: for each pass they complete it, I complete it. So
Speaker 2: he pretty much was testing me to see what I
Speaker 2: can dom the girls to do or not to do.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm sorry, so so I you so you're walking
Speaker 1: so a guy pays you and then you and.
Speaker 2: You can I send you a photo of my of
Speaker 2: the what you call it?
Speaker 1: What do you want to No?
Speaker 2: No, no, I mean I could do that too, no problem,
Speaker 2: but no, it's the it's the account that, uh, the
Speaker 2: guy is going to just show you how much he
Speaker 2: paid me to so so off.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, you can send me a photo of this thing.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, so so okay, So oh you get paid.
Speaker 1: So a guy pays you to like take his wife
Speaker 1: on a date, right, what you're.
Speaker 2: Saying, many many, many women? Not many? Okay, I spent
Speaker 2: five in the past two months, but it was like
Speaker 2: I was total those five. It was like every single week,
Speaker 2: like three times a week. It was a business. So
Speaker 2: it's like literally working. I got skinny because I was
Speaker 2: working out so much.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is okay, you sent me Okay, you just
Speaker 1: sent me a picture of a receipt of seven of
Speaker 1: six thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's over the past from September twenty fifth until November,
Speaker 2: like the last week of November or something like that.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Oh man, And I don't know what to do with
Speaker 2: it because I don't deserve it, Like I don't deserve
Speaker 2: to be this person because I had nothing.
Speaker 1: Now do you ever have you ever fallen in love?
Speaker 1: You ever caught feelings? You ever with with a client?
Speaker 1: And you're start.
Speaker 2: To uh no, I I have very low empathy and
Speaker 2: pretty much no empathy. So really, I mean, I love,
Speaker 2: I love, but I just don't love like everybody else
Speaker 2: would love like I don't feel happiness. Most of the time.
Speaker 2: I feel angry, But at the same time, I'm always cheerful.
Speaker 2: I'm always like, have you go lucky? Quote unquote? But
Speaker 2: deep down inside, the only thing I got his angry.
Speaker 1: Interesting. What have you ever spoken to a real therapist
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 2: Uh? No? I did? I mean when I was like fourteen,
Speaker 2: But then the dude started asking me questions that I
Speaker 2: thought was ignorant, So I just left their position. I
Speaker 2: have a very bad problem with people telling me what
Speaker 2: I should have should not do.
Speaker 1: What kind of I mean? You, look, you we can
Speaker 1: talk about we can we can talk about the fun stuff,
Speaker 1: or we can talk about this off if you want.
Speaker 1: But what kind of ignorant questions was he asking you?
Speaker 2: Oh? Well, see, for me, every question to me can
Speaker 2: be ignoranto because let's just super fuck I am, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: But no, ignorant questions for me is like, so, why
Speaker 2: do you feel this way? What's going on with that? Like,
Speaker 2: but this is when I was fourteen. I was dumb
Speaker 2: in the head and I was really angry at the
Speaker 2: world in general already, So those questions of me back
Speaker 2: in the day were meant absolutely nothing besides that you're
Speaker 2: just trying to get under underneath my skin. So m yeah.
Speaker 1: So I mean when you say that all you have
Speaker 1: is anger, is that something that you well, how old
Speaker 1: are you now?
Speaker 2: I'm thirty one, sir?
Speaker 1: Okay? And then does that something you still like feel
Speaker 1: very deeply?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I really have to just tell Alicia
Speaker 2: sometimes girls love. Today's just going to be an angry day,
Speaker 2: so I apologize or I just don't say anything at
Speaker 2: all that day.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Do you like, do you feel like you're actually versus looks?
Speaker 1: Do you feel do you feel like you gotten any
Speaker 1: better like controlling it over the years?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, I've even one point my whole life.
Speaker 2: I used to go to a hardcore shows though, and
Speaker 2: so down and like pits, So m hm, that's how
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 1: You're in your You're in your hulk wearing a sweater
Speaker 1: era of angriness.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, that's that's one hundred percent when I heard yo,
Speaker 2: fact pretty cool. Actually I might do that absolutely.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean does any I don't know. I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope. Now see now I'm self conscious that I
Speaker 1: am also asking you ignorant questions. But I'm curious anyway.
Speaker 2: I'm older now I called you, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like you you here, give me your your voice that
Speaker 2: apparently helps a lot of people out. Man. I appreciate
Speaker 2: what you do. Like Alicia is the one that got
Speaker 2: me on to you, bro, and everything's been listening. You're like, man,
Speaker 2: you actually pretty smart.
Speaker 1: Gee, So do you like does that? I mean? Does
Speaker 1: anything give you happiness?
Speaker 2: You have?
Speaker 1: I mean you've got a girlfriend, I've got six thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: got a dog.
Speaker 2: You know, that's it them. I don't need much in
Speaker 2: my life. I live in this town called Lagrange, Maine.
Speaker 2: It is there, seriously, population twelve hundreds and freaking I
Speaker 2: literally live in b f e of b f e
Speaker 2: m up Here. It's just either you do drugs or
Speaker 2: you go to work. I haven't just do my art
Speaker 2: and go to work quote unquote not really works, of course.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, do you it just like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's again it sounds like, I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't really need that much in life, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got so so well. Okay, so you told me
Speaker 1: now you're you're you're gonna go straight. Now you're gonna
Speaker 1: do as hell.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm gonna still be kinky. I'm just not
Speaker 2: gonna do with the money anymore. The guy ruined the
Speaker 2: king for me, you know, like he was just making
Speaker 2: it so much like he would literally text me non
Speaker 2: stop over and over and over and over and over
Speaker 2: and over again. Now but I broke stop. I can't
Speaker 2: perform for you. You want me to do this? And the
Speaker 2: third end, still pick up the phone, bro just give
Speaker 2: me a go pro strap it to me and call
Speaker 2: me fucking Sally. Let's go.
Speaker 1: That's a that's definitely a package you got to offer
Speaker 1: on your website.
Speaker 2: I mean I was trying to tell him. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: put a ring camera in my room. We're good, we're golden.
Speaker 2: You just pop and pop out whatever you want.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? What do you what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do for money?
Speaker 2: Now? Uh? Probably go over to men. You know, just
Speaker 2: push the game over. You know, maybe now it's kidding now,
Speaker 2: I'm actually trying to sell my artwork and everything like that,
Speaker 2: but you know, we're not gonna plug that again. I
Speaker 2: was gonna do that myself. I don't really even tell
Speaker 2: my art really, but I don't want to be. At
Speaker 2: the beginning of the year, I was working on a
Speaker 2: very big trucking company doing body work, and then all
Speaker 2: my own time fell apart completely. It went fround, having
Speaker 2: everything from my car, my TV, my PS five, my
Speaker 2: fucking female at the time, having absolutely nothing with a dog.
Speaker 2: It's been it's been a hell of a good year.
Speaker 1: How did you and Alicia meet?
Speaker 2: Jeez, that is actually pretty funny. So she may have
Speaker 2: been living in a sober living house with the girl
Speaker 2: I was seeing at the time already and kind of
Speaker 2: like met through faced with dating randomly and then met
Speaker 2: up one night, and then that night she was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it, you ain't seeing her no more.
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, though, Okay, I'm going to pretend
Speaker 1: like I sort of understood what you just said.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, So Alisha was living in the same house
Speaker 2: that a girl that already dating was living in hm,
Speaker 2: and they didn't and I didn't know that at first,
Speaker 2: and then out of nowhere, Alicia says, hey, I live
Speaker 2: sent in touch. I was from That's the good right now.
Speaker 1: I think there's a Seinfeld episode about that, right where
Speaker 1: like Jerry's Yeah, well, I mean, I don't think it
Speaker 1: takes place in a sober living home. But it's like,
Speaker 1: I think Jerry is like dating a girl and then
Speaker 1: he like wants to date her roommate instead. Am I
Speaker 1: is there a Seinfeld episode about that? I think there is.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it went well for.
Speaker 2: You, know, I mean it actually I actually ended up
Speaker 2: having through some of them.
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like everything goes well for you, Jude.
Speaker 2: No, dude, I mean, so that's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: don't know why, though it shouldn't because that the universe
Speaker 2: does not give give gifts. She definitely beats you up
Speaker 2: with a stick first, and this time around it seems
Speaker 2: like she she doesn't. She actually likes me. I'm like, word,
Speaker 2: thank you, miss the universe. You're the ship.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, Jude, I don't know what you're
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what your life has been like
Speaker 1: or what it is that's occurred that or any just
Speaker 1: any whatever whatever it is that makes you, you know,
Speaker 1: feel this way. But I mean, I you know, I
Speaker 1: hope I definitely understand feeling like you don't deserve any
Speaker 1: good things in life. And I I'm no expert in
Speaker 1: unlearning that, but I hope that you're able to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting better at it, as I mean, for me,
Speaker 2: it's more like a prideful thing. I don't feel like
Speaker 2: a working man. But I put my dick in somebody's wife.
Speaker 2: So it's just I think, I just I guess my
Speaker 2: story to somebody that actually would first of all be
Speaker 2: intrigued or therefore just like not giving you advice about
Speaker 2: what I'm doing, just actually just listening for exact and
Speaker 2: be like, you know what, it's pretty awesome, But Loki,
Speaker 2: how do you feel about it? That's that's all? Oh
Speaker 2: that I need an a therapist costs playing way too
Speaker 2: much money. I don't have eb T. You know, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Thanks ya.
Speaker 1: You see, you should see if you can find a
Speaker 1: therapist that will give you free session in exchange for
Speaker 1: having sex with his wife. You think, so, oh what
Speaker 1: gonna say? Oh yeah, what kind of before we go
Speaker 1: what kind of art do you do? I'm curious.
Speaker 2: I do street arts, sir?
Speaker 1: Oh, cool like graffiti? Yes, sir, you're like Banksy I
Speaker 1: wish man.
Speaker 2: That dude is a legend. I mean, people say that
Speaker 2: I'm really good at what I do, and I think
Speaker 2: all my should is garbage. So either way, my ship's up. Son.
Speaker 1: Do you have a tag? What's your like? What do
Speaker 1: you tag as?
Speaker 2: S A? S Oh? Yes, say so standfort somehow, always standing.
Speaker 1: Out, somehow, always standing out. Okay, Well, if I'm ever
Speaker 1: in uh Maine, Maine's one of the states I've never
Speaker 1: been to. If I'm ever in Maine, I will look
Speaker 1: at I will look at the under the underpasses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never had a reason to go, but I've heard
Speaker 1: it's nice.
Speaker 2: Hey, they will love you here if you do a show. Listen,
Speaker 2: you got a lot of yours from Maine itself.
Speaker 1: Bro for real, brol Okay, I'll try to make it
Speaker 1: up there.
Speaker 2: Oh, can't I say one more thing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: For sure?
Speaker 2: For you, he Alicia, I love you. You're pretty cool.
Speaker 2: And uh, I've seen my two s. I can go
Speaker 2: and walk in the room. But as well as Maine's
Speaker 2: actually not as bad as everybody think it is, like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell us from a person's color. Don't believe
Speaker 2: what you hear on the TV and news about society
Speaker 2: not that bad guys? Is maye?
Speaker 1: Are you saying, like, is Maine known for being like racist?
Speaker 2: I mean low key they say it is, and I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: I live in a country, country bro, and they ain't
Speaker 2: talk to me. No, but I'm also six food two
Speaker 2: seventy five if you're fuck around and find out. So
Speaker 2: it could be that, or because I've heard story that
Speaker 2: people like the first Kukux fan march was in Milo,
Speaker 2: which is only twenty miles away.
Speaker 1: Fan really see, I guess I associate like I'm the
Speaker 1: I associate like hardcore racism with like the South, so
Speaker 1: like Maine is the most northmost so I never thought
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I live in Virginia Beach, Florida, Japan, Bwam, Texas,
Speaker 2: and Mi Zuri. So I've had a life of wonders.
Speaker 1: Nice man, Well, keep doing your thing. I hope you
Speaker 1: find whatever you're looking for in this universe, and I
Speaker 1: hope that you feel as though you deserve it. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: waxing philosophical here, but I don't know if anyone deserves anything.
Speaker 1: I think you, I don't know if anyone deserves That's
Speaker 1: why I don't feel like I don't you know the
Speaker 1: whole like well, you know the whole like you're supposed
Speaker 1: to be like positive, positive affirmation of like I deserve happiness,
Speaker 1: I deserve this, I deserve that. I don't like I
Speaker 1: have trouble feeling like, well, why does anyone deserve anything?
Speaker 1: But you can all you can also say that about
Speaker 1: negative stuff, right like because you can apply that thinking
Speaker 1: to like, oh, I don't I I don't deserve to
Speaker 1: be unhappy because why if no one deserves anything, then
Speaker 1: why would I deserve negative stuff?
Speaker 2: Exactly Like for me, I think the world I have
Speaker 2: bad tattooed on my forearm, and people like what's that for?
Speaker 2: And like, does everybody in the world has bad juju
Speaker 2: with them at all time? No matter what? I just
Speaker 2: happen to wear mine on my sleeve so I know
Speaker 2: it's always there.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, good luck, gak bless you take care of
Speaker 1: manless ye take care of man. I think I found
Speaker 1: myself A new theme song. No let me see if
Speaker 1: do I have any post call thoughts. I don't know
Speaker 1: yet the whole idea of like uh I've played I've
Speaker 1: played around with the idea of affirmations before, not any
Speaker 1: I've never played around with any like I deserve such
Speaker 1: and such affirmations because I really don't. I really don't
Speaker 1: feel like I don't know if anyone deserves anything. And
Speaker 1: you could say that negative or positive, right, because like,
Speaker 1: I have so many fucking privileges in my life. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm born in a I was born, you know, not
Speaker 1: a struggling, super hard and in a third world country
Speaker 1: or anything like that. You know, I can eat food
Speaker 1: and sleep in a bed every night. And it's like,
Speaker 1: do I like deserve those things anymore than the people
Speaker 1: who don't have them? I don't think so, uh, But
Speaker 1: I had I shouldn't like hate myself for any privileges
Speaker 1: that I have in my life, and I should I
Speaker 1: don't think I should actively feel as though I deserve pain.
Speaker 1: But I do have trouble accepting the idea that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, any I for some reason am entitled to
Speaker 1: some kind of a goodness in my life. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff is kind of random, like
Speaker 1: when anytime, like I don't know, if you like, see
Speaker 1: somebody struggling on the street or something, it's really I
Speaker 1: always anytime I see that, I'm like, there's no there's
Speaker 1: no real reason why I'm me and they are them.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's because I cosmically deserve to eat
Speaker 1: food more than anyone else. So I have trouble with
Speaker 1: that affirmation. But I don't know. Uh, yeah, whatever, it's cool.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful. It's cool I get to eat food and
Speaker 1: live and stuff.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Some people died when they were like fourteen,
Speaker 1: and I didn't did I did they? Did they deserve death?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Did I deserve life? Not just probably just as much
Speaker 1: as they deserved death. Like, no, you know, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just a gecko talking into a phone.
Speaker 4: Hello, Hi, Lyle, how are you?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 1: I'm good. What's your name?
Speaker 2: Good? I'm Mac Mac.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Mac? Oh?
Speaker 2: Not much.
Speaker 4: I've been a long time listener, long time watcher. I
Speaker 4: have a couple of things that I could talk about
Speaker 4: if you want.
Speaker 1: I would love to hear these things.
Speaker 3: Tell me the things, right, Okay, Well, I'm a lesbian.
Speaker 4: My last relationship ended pretty spectacularly. If you'd like to
Speaker 4: hear about.
Speaker 1: Us spectacular really quick. How do you feel about that
Speaker 1: Rake line where he's like, you said, you're a lesbian girl,
Speaker 1: me too?
Speaker 4: Do you not like that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty funny, honestly, because I agree women are.
Speaker 1: Awesome, cool, cool, cool cool. You said, ended spectacularly. Now,
Speaker 1: a spectacle can be good or bad?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Is it a good spectacle or a bad spectacle?
Speaker 4: I mean a little bit of both, I guess. To
Speaker 4: start it off, we were together for like eight years
Speaker 4: since high school, and she was always bisexual and whatever.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 4: She was the bipolar maniac who had convinced me that
Speaker 4: she was friends with dudes that she was actually fucking.
Speaker 4: She moved me into her new boyfriend's house. I paid
Speaker 4: their bills, no idea, no clue.
Speaker 1: Really she got you. She like conned you into moving
Speaker 1: in with her and this guy that she was fucking
Speaker 1: and paying her bills. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So they met at work and then she introduced
Speaker 4: me to him as a friend, and then their friendship
Speaker 4: kind of evolved into them canoodling on the back burner
Speaker 4: and yeah, she can miss me one day, Like, hey,
Speaker 4: our leis is going to be up soon. We can
Speaker 4: move in with my friend to save some money. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, cool, whatever, and then you know, we
Speaker 4: go on our merry way. I had an inkling something
Speaker 4: was going on, but whatever. Then a few months down
Speaker 4: the line, he comes home fucking wasted and still's beans
Speaker 4: but he's the secret boyfriend. So that was pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, So how did you react to that information?
Speaker 4: I like to tell people that I could have either
Speaker 4: committed a double homicide or I break both my hands.
Speaker 3: So I broke both my hand.
Speaker 4: You yeah, yeah, instead punching really hard things tends to
Speaker 4: break bones.
Speaker 2: So m m m.
Speaker 1: So it was it was just like a gut like
Speaker 1: anger reaction punching walls.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And like, now we're adults, so when you're an adult,
Speaker 4: you can catch a charge and that's not really worth it.
Speaker 1: How did they So, So, if the idea is that
Speaker 1: you would move in with them to save money, how
Speaker 1: did you end up paying their bills?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 4: I so my ex partner and I were in a
Speaker 4: situation where she would stay home and pursue her own
Speaker 4: side business like doing art and stuff like that, and
Speaker 4: then I would go to work and uh, yeah.
Speaker 1: And so but then like, okay, like like rent, like
Speaker 1: did you like you paid like a third of the rent?
Speaker 4: So at that house, I was paying two thirds. And
Speaker 4: then when I lived with her and she wasn't working,
Speaker 4: she would just kind of provide what she could with
Speaker 4: her art and then I would take care of the
Speaker 4: rest because I was like, well, it's the middle because
Speaker 4: at that time it was when COVID started. So working
Speaker 4: retail kind of sucks because it's like, well, you bring
Speaker 4: COVID home and then both of us are out of
Speaker 4: commission or you stay home and I go work to
Speaker 4: make money. So oh god, damn m Yeah, yeah it's
Speaker 4: pretty fun. But I'm an East tract technician. Now I've
Speaker 4: got a great career. I've got a great girlfriend. And
Speaker 4: yeah she's on the up and up.
Speaker 1: Oh wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. So how long ago was all this?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: This was about two years ago.
Speaker 1: Now, okay, and I did you break up with your
Speaker 1: girlfriend immediately?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, I moved out. I actually moved all of my
Speaker 4: stuff out of her house with said broken hands, moved
Speaker 4: in with my family because had nowhere to stay. And yeah,
Speaker 4: crazy thing too, she thought that she would keep my
Speaker 4: cat from me, saying that, all, well, you can't just
Speaker 4: come in here and take everything, and it's like, well,
Speaker 4: first of all, it's all mine, you didn't really buy it.
Speaker 4: Second of all, he's my cat.
Speaker 1: She tried to keep the fucking cat man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she has her.
Speaker 4: Own cat, and then we bought a cat together, and
Speaker 4: she said no, he's my cat too, And I was like, well,
Speaker 4: if you pay me back for everything, then sure, and
Speaker 4: lo and behold, I received.
Speaker 1: Him the life to day, I'm looking at these texts
Speaker 1: that you've sent me. You've sent me a few texts here,
Speaker 1: you said, just real quick, I just this is just
Speaker 1: one thing that you texted me that I want to
Speaker 1: get some clarification on. You just sent a text that
Speaker 1: says Tony Hawk pro Skater. What does that mean?
Speaker 4: I think at the time I was playing Tony Hawk
Speaker 4: pro Skater and on stream you had asked, so I said,
Speaker 4: Tony Hawk pro Skater, Okay, are you good? Not really.
Speaker 4: I've played since it was on GameCube, but I have
Speaker 4: lived vicariously through the game. I always loved skateboarding extreme sports,
Speaker 4: but I'm too much of a pussy.
Speaker 1: Now you said that. You also said my life is
Speaker 1: now better than ever without my ex. Tell me more
Speaker 1: about your life now.
Speaker 4: Well, I have a great career, I have great friends.
Speaker 4: I mean, when shit like that happens, you really do
Speaker 4: see you know who's around you, who really supports you.
Speaker 4: And unfortunately, when everything happened like it was, it was
Speaker 4: the kind of situation where you've been together for so
Speaker 4: long that you're known as a unit. Right, so when
Speaker 4: you meet people, you have friends as a couple and whatever,
Speaker 4: and then you know when everything happened, it's like you
Speaker 4: have a couple of people who reach out, They're like, hey,
Speaker 4: how are you doing, how's it going? And then there's
Speaker 4: a couple of other people who you never hear from again,
Speaker 4: and it's like, well, okay, you can either get my
Speaker 4: side or not. But I mean it's no shoot off
Speaker 4: my ass. Everything is all good.
Speaker 1: And then HVAC. I saw, dude. I remember there's once
Speaker 1: I was really struggling with doing this podcast, which happens
Speaker 1: time to time, and I remember I saw I was
Speaker 1: like taking a walk and I saw a guy driving
Speaker 1: an HVAC van and I was like, I guess I
Speaker 1: could do I bet I could do HVAC.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean really, depending on where you're from, Like,
Speaker 4: you can get into it pretty easily. It's a diploma
Speaker 4: program and you can do HVAC on the side. But
Speaker 4: like the I'm in Canada, so the province that I'm in,
Speaker 4: it's a standardized trade so you have to go to training.
Speaker 4: But it's cool because you get to do like you
Speaker 4: do the electricians job, you do sheet metal job, you
Speaker 4: do refrigeration, you do a little bit of plumbing.
Speaker 3: So it's all kind of catch all.
Speaker 1: What part of Canada are you in? I'm in Alberta, Alberta.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to go to I want to
Speaker 1: do a show in Alberta. I keep I feel like
Speaker 1: there's so many people who like I see, I see,
Speaker 1: like come to Alberta. I don't know if that's the
Speaker 1: new come to Brazil meme. But okay, I'm that's in
Speaker 1: the middle. That's like, that's like in the middle of Canada, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just off the west coast.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've only ever been to Toronto and Vancouver, which
Speaker 1: are like the two most American Canada places.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, whenever your band says that they're doing a
Speaker 4: Canadian tour, it's either Vancouver or Toronto. There's nowhere.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah that exists.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna look into Alberta. Where'd you meet your
Speaker 1: new girlfriend?
Speaker 4: Where everyone who is under the New World Order does?
Speaker 2: On Tinder?
Speaker 1: Tinder? Now, I thought Tinder is Tinder's like phasing out
Speaker 1: a little bit. Everyone's talking about like a hinge and
Speaker 1: bumble and stuff. Are people still Tindering?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean as a lesbian, it's kind of hard, honestly,
Speaker 4: because like on bumble and hinge and all that stuff,
Speaker 4: and even Tinder, Tinder's the worst for it. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of people searching for a quote unquote unicorn, which
Speaker 4: is a couple looking for a girl who's into girls
Speaker 4: and guys, and some of them don't explain that in
Speaker 4: the bio, and then someone them do where it's like
Speaker 4: you start talking to a girl and then they then
Speaker 4: she's like, oh, yeah, my boyfriend, and you're like, fuck,
Speaker 4: that's what I'm into.
Speaker 1: You're scrolling down, like I assume I assume as someone
Speaker 1: who does that, it's like they're they you're scrolling down
Speaker 1: their profile and everything's great, and they save the boyfriend.
Speaker 1: The boyfriend is like in the background of the last picture,
Speaker 1: and it's like that's the that's the big reveal.
Speaker 4: Yes, or it's on the bottom, right on the bottom
Speaker 4: where it's just seeking a third it's like, oh I
Speaker 4: love going out, I love doing this, and then on
Speaker 4: the bottom it's looking.
Speaker 1: For you corn right burying the lead as they say. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you met you met on Tinder? That's cool? Is like,
Speaker 1: is there have you ever done any of the like?
Speaker 1: Can can girls go on Grinder? Or is that for
Speaker 1: gay guys only?
Speaker 4: I think grinder is for gay guys only. I mean
Speaker 4: if you're a trans woman you might be able to.
Speaker 1: I love the way that you said grinder with a
Speaker 1: Canadian accent. Can you do that again?
Speaker 4: Grinder?
Speaker 1: That was that was good? What's what's the Is there
Speaker 1: a lesbian Grinder?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called she or Her?
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Have you have you done that one? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I actually matched with my girlfriend on that app as well.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, double dippin' double dipping rock and roll?
Speaker 1: What's what's her deal? What's she do?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: She's a professional works in healthcare?
Speaker 1: Now? Does like you? I assume you you keep no
Speaker 1: tabs on the on the on the old girlfriend? You
Speaker 1: don't know what her and that guy are doing? Do
Speaker 1: you her and that guy are they're probably uh searching
Speaker 1: for a fucking unicorn.
Speaker 4: On hinge, honestly, probably a.
Speaker 1: Unicorn to have sex with us and pay our light
Speaker 1: bill as well.
Speaker 4: Exactly precisely, well precisely. Uh No, I have a I
Speaker 4: have a few people like she used to follow my
Speaker 4: family and stuff on social media, so I would kind
Speaker 4: of get wind of that, which I thought was kind
Speaker 4: of weird. And then like she'll ask old mutual friends
Speaker 4: if I've been up to anything or whatever. But uh, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I have her walked on everything. I hope she hears
Speaker 4: me here having my best life.
Speaker 2: Fuck you, fuck you.
Speaker 1: Rock and roll. Well, let me let me see here you.
Speaker 1: I want to end this with you sent me so
Speaker 1: many texts. I want to see you here.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, right now, this is crazy, man, No.
Speaker 1: It's true, you know what. No, it was just it
Speaker 1: was all of them was about the acts, except for
Speaker 1: the one that was about Tony Hawk. I thought you
Speaker 1: had a story of meeting Tony Hawk. But but that's
Speaker 1: okay too. This was this was also an equally juicy story.
Speaker 4: Yeah did you did you have any other questions about it?
Speaker 1: Like, uh, you know what I'll do let me does
Speaker 1: the chat have any any further questions? Let me open
Speaker 1: it to the chat real quick. We can take a
Speaker 1: couple of questions from the chat. Let me see here,
Speaker 1: do I have any further questions?
Speaker 2: Did was that? So?
Speaker 1: The guy just wasn't paying any of the bills.
Speaker 4: He so the thing is he worked, so I work
Speaker 4: a full time like big boy job. I'm an HVAC technician,
Speaker 4: so I make decent money. He was working a part
Speaker 4: time retail job, so he made probably about a third
Speaker 4: or less than I did at the time.
Speaker 1: Star Lad ninety one says, what is lesbian dating?
Speaker 4: Like, I'm that's loaded. It sucks to be honest, It's
Speaker 4: hard to find people who how do I put this,
Speaker 4: There's a lot of girls who are kind of gay
Speaker 4: for pay or gay for play, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Like they're into it for the acknowledgment from men who
Speaker 4: they would like to sleep with, as opposed to actually
Speaker 4: being interested in women. So that can be kind of hard.
Speaker 4: Let me see, I'm not obviously homophobe. However, I will
Speaker 4: not date trans people just for the simply of like,
Speaker 4: I know what I'm into. I'm into a vagina and
Speaker 4: boobs and of feminine woman and it doesn't bother me
Speaker 4: if you're trans or how you're expecting to show yourself
Speaker 4: or whatever, but it's.
Speaker 3: Just just not my cup of tea.
Speaker 1: What do you What did you mean when you said
Speaker 1: gay for pay? Like like there's girls on there being
Speaker 1: like being like, hey, I'll go on a date with
Speaker 1: you if you venmo me type of shit.
Speaker 4: Uh well kind of just like for the benefits of
Speaker 4: having a woman on a woman relationship if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Uh gifts, uh dates?
Speaker 1: Uh oh, they want you to be like they want
Speaker 1: you to sugar Mama then.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's the sugar sugar Mama version of sugar Daddy.
Speaker 1: Well, what's your name? One more time?
Speaker 2: Oh? Mac?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm Mac? Is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people the computer before we go?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Keep on keeping on ship gets a lot better. Call
Speaker 4: in and he might answer.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, enjoy all the wonders that Alberta has to offer.
Speaker 1: I hope you I hope you suck them all up.
Speaker 1: That's a play on the on the HVAC thing as well. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop talking.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Mac, Yeah, thanks lo g.
Speaker 1: You know what I got. I'm gonna make my own
Speaker 1: uh all gecko dating app. I'm gonna call it a
Speaker 1: gex match with hot single reptiles in your area. Snakes
Speaker 1: are on that you ide you there's a little box.
Speaker 1: You identify what reptile this is. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: an app for scalies, you know, furries. Furries are like
Speaker 1: people phrase of people who dress up in animal costumes,
Speaker 1: typically mammals like foxes and dogs and shit. But I
Speaker 1: want to do one for people who dress up in
Speaker 1: reptile outfits. You identify what reptile you are, like, I'm
Speaker 1: a gecko searching for a crocodile. Also open to snakes,
Speaker 1: and then you can have all kinds of weird, slimy
Speaker 1: reptile sex and it costs. You have to give me
Speaker 1: twenty dollars and I'll put your profile at the top.
Speaker 1: I me know, if there's any venture capitalists out there
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast that want to give me one
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Speaker 3: Call from Brad Page from Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: Brad, you didn't have to give me your full name
Speaker 1: and where you live.
Speaker 3: This is the first one I ever called in, so
Speaker 3: I didn't know how else to make the connection.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you know another thing. I know exactly
Speaker 1: who you are, Brad Page from Saint Louis.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Why all right, I'm going to give some context to
Speaker 1: some people. By the way, this is going to be
Speaker 1: great because let me tell you, I'm gonna tell you something,
Speaker 1: Brad Page, I forget people's names the second after they
Speaker 1: tell them to me. If you've listened to this podcast enough,
Speaker 1: you've heard me do that several times. So people just
Speaker 1: think I'm a I'm a fucking Alzheimer's ridden stoner that
Speaker 1: doesn't remember anything, but I remember exactly who you are,
Speaker 1: Brad Page from Saint Louis. You came up at one
Speaker 1: of my lot. You came up at my live show
Speaker 1: at Saint Louis and you told the story of I
Speaker 1: want to say you're you told the story of your
Speaker 1: father finding your fleshlight.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: I remember you because you were a cool guy. And
Speaker 1: people think I don't remember things, but I remember a lot. Actually, Well, what.
Speaker 3: I want to tell you recently, what's happened at my
Speaker 3: work where I, you know, recently started about, you know,
Speaker 3: in January, I.
Speaker 2: How do I put this?
Speaker 3: At my at like a general kind of training room,
Speaker 3: there's the trash can, and I had plans one day
Speaker 3: to go, you know, to like a soccer game or
Speaker 3: something after work. So I had a whole change of
Speaker 3: clothes I brought, as one does, another pair of underwear, right,
Speaker 3: and they were old. So I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm going to throw this away. But then I was
Speaker 3: having lunch in that training room and one of my
Speaker 3: employees came in to throw something away and she's like
Speaker 3: she looked in she goes there are drawers in this
Speaker 3: trash can. And I you know, at that point, I
Speaker 3: didn't really know what to do, so.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, but.
Speaker 3: So you know, that's this kind of the weirdness follows
Speaker 3: me everywhere.
Speaker 1: Brad. I you know you have all these stories. Okay,
Speaker 1: you told me the story on stage at Saint Louis
Speaker 1: about your dad finding your flashlight. Now you're telling me
Speaker 1: a story about somebody finding your boxers. Just be who
Speaker 1: you are, Brad. Why are you so ashamed of everybody
Speaker 1: finding your personal items?
Speaker 2: I'm not ashamed.
Speaker 3: I just I just I just find it, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel like this stuff just
Speaker 3: happened to me.
Speaker 1: Everyone masturbates, most people wear underwear. You're fine, You're a
Speaker 1: part of You're a normal person. I mean, I you know,
Speaker 1: there's worse things for people to find in your garbage.
Speaker 2: How was your tour?
Speaker 1: By the way, how is my tour?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I have been following on Instagram, but it's often to
Speaker 3: see all places you were at.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, man, it's really cool. I'm done. Now
Speaker 1: I'm back. I'm ready to you know, uh, be depressed.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trying not to. Last night, yesterday.
Speaker 2: Not.
Speaker 1: Yesterday on the Eric Andre stream, somebody called I don't
Speaker 1: know if you watched it, but somebody called in to
Speaker 1: tell me that I seem sad a lot. And so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on that now, because you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm on tour. I get a little sad when I'm
Speaker 1: on tour, but I I feel like I'm primed to
Speaker 1: get sad now, and I'm gonna try to work on
Speaker 1: not doing that so that you know, people don't call
Speaker 1: me out on it as much.
Speaker 2: I feel like you must be.
Speaker 3: I mean, you wouldn't continue doing it if you didn't,
Speaker 3: you know, get joy out of it.
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't know if that's true. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that. Well, there's here's the problem is
Speaker 1: that is that I get joy out of it sporadically enough.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? No, I get that,
Speaker 1: like some days I get joy out of it. In
Speaker 1: other days it's a chore, but you know it's a
Speaker 1: It's I but I've thought about this a lot, Brad Paige,
Speaker 1: I don't think I and I don't even say this
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, I don't have anything better to do.
Speaker 1: But I don't think I have anything better to do,
Speaker 1: Like this is the best thing I could be doing
Speaker 1: with my life and time. Like I don't like when
Speaker 1: I'm eighty years old. This is one this is a
Speaker 1: thing that keeps me going doing this. It's like, when
Speaker 1: I'm eighty years old, there's no way I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look back at, you know, all the time that
Speaker 1: I've spent, you know, interacting with and talking to all
Speaker 1: these different people from all over the world, but whether
Speaker 1: it's in person or on the phone and regret that time.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll always look at this as a as
Speaker 1: a great use of time. And so there's there's a
Speaker 1: weird sense of security that i have while I'm recording
Speaker 1: these where I'm like, you know, of all the things
Speaker 1: I could be doing, of all the you know, convenience
Speaker 1: stores I could be robbing, or marketing jobs I could
Speaker 1: be doing for dentists, facebook pages, I think this is
Speaker 1: the best of a thing I could do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know's there's a lot of there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things to do in the world, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: get sick. Whatever it is you do, it will eventually
Speaker 1: become a chore of some kind. You know, whether it's
Speaker 1: traveling the world, or getting married to the person you love,
Speaker 1: or any other kind of you know, awesome thing that
Speaker 1: you could do it Eventually, it'll become a chore at
Speaker 1: some point. But I have I have, I have faith that,
Speaker 1: you know, for however much longer I do what I'm doing,
Speaker 1: which I hope is a long time, I'll look back
Speaker 1: at it and go, that was a good that was
Speaker 1: a good use of a life, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: hopefully I do lots more things with my life after this.
Speaker 1: I'm not that old, but yeah.
Speaker 3: That's how I feel too, is that it's not just
Speaker 3: your Your podcast ranges from like, you know, people that
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to say this is discredit, but like,
Speaker 3: like you know, I think there are some some listeners
Speaker 3: that like more like me take it for kind of
Speaker 3: the comedic where sometimes you know it there is you know,
Speaker 3: some humor to it, but there's also a lot of
Speaker 3: people that you know, just love the guidance and kind
Speaker 3: of conversations that you have, like what you just said,
Speaker 3: So you really have a wide range of people that
Speaker 3: you know listen for whatever the reason may be. And also,
Speaker 3: I mean, what one thing I really like about you
Speaker 3: get is that like you and I, the people that
Speaker 3: you have on your shows are people that I have
Speaker 3: always been huge fans of, like Tim I High Deecker,
Speaker 3: Eric Andre, Like just it's and I only think of
Speaker 3: how I would feel getting to meet people that are,
Speaker 3: you know, huge icons. I guess you could say, so
Speaker 3: that's awesome for you as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys, those guys are cool guys. Man, it
Speaker 1: really wasn't honor. Like, you know, if if my thirteen
Speaker 1: year old, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year old self know I
Speaker 1: was doing all that, I mean, his his dick would explode.
Speaker 1: So it's it's really cool. It's really cool, and you know,
Speaker 1: I look at those things and I'm grateful for them,
Speaker 1: and I think they're awesome, but I also am like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's weird, Like I look at them, like,
Speaker 1: oh man, that was a really cool I take a
Speaker 1: second right and I'm like, oh man, you know, that
Speaker 1: was a really cool moment. That would blow the dick
Speaker 1: off my you know, seventeen year old self and and
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and I'm grateful for it. And in
Speaker 1: the moment, I'm I'm very excited and and it's awesome.
Speaker 1: But then I have this thing where I'm like and
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like to I live either. Like,
Speaker 1: if I live either, I want to say I live
Speaker 1: half the time in the future and half the time
Speaker 1: in the present. I don't want to Sayeah, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: that maybe I'm being a little more generous about the present,
Speaker 1: But I don't I like you Like, I'm always like, well, well,
Speaker 1: what the fuck have I done with my life today?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Like, even if I have an accomplishment, like finishing a tour,
Speaker 1: getting somebody I really look up to on the stream,
Speaker 1: I'm always like, you know, the excitement of it, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't celebrate, you know, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: what am I going to do tomorrow?
Speaker 2: For sure?
Speaker 1: And maybe that's why that woman on the Eric Streame
Speaker 1: told me that I seemed sad. I really took her
Speaker 1: because she was cool. I really took I mean. And
Speaker 1: she also told me she listens to the podcast. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if a person that listens to me
Speaker 1: talk for multiple hours a week, you know I have
Speaker 1: I have faith in what they have to say about
Speaker 1: my character and emotions. I respect their point of view,
Speaker 1: and so if she says that I'm sad. I take
Speaker 1: that to heart. So I'm working on that.
Speaker 3: Well, like I said, I mean that's just one person
Speaker 3: of the thousands and thousands of listeners. I mean, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: well I I certainly mean that. I mean I can
Speaker 3: I know you have just like so much you know,
Speaker 3: social media and everybody like me that just loved all
Speaker 3: your content and just everything that that you put out.
Speaker 1: Thanks, Brad. You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make a gecko butthole flashlight just for you and then
Speaker 1: well you can actually get you can gift that one
Speaker 1: to your dad as a present instead of finding it
Speaker 1: in the trash.
Speaker 3: That I'm sure you really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Thanks Brad, You're a cool guy. You're definitely you had
Speaker 1: a very memorable story that night, that whole that whole
Speaker 1: night in Saint Louis was really fun. But well, thanks man,
Speaker 1: thanks for letting thanks for letting me rant to you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I feel like I don't get to rant
Speaker 1: myself that often, so thanks thanks for giving me the time.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 1: I think you want to say the people the computer.
Speaker 3: Before we go, just I don't know, support support lyle
Speaker 3: the get go, you know, it's it's the content that
Speaker 3: keeps giving back.
Speaker 2: It's the type of stuff.
Speaker 3: Whenever you have a rough day or just might be
Speaker 3: on your way to work and need a quick listen.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I think everybody just needs those
Speaker 3: little outlets of things that never there's never one show
Speaker 3: that's the same as the other, but you never know
Speaker 3: what you're gonna get in you just that's a great guy,
Speaker 3: because like, not many people that would go on tour
Speaker 3: actually would talk to me like this, So I really
Speaker 3: appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks, Brad. You're fucking cool. I wish the people at
Speaker 1: home could could see what you look like, because this
Speaker 1: is something about I remember how you look. I don't
Speaker 1: just remember. I don't just remember. I remember everything about you.
Speaker 1: You looked a little bit like I was about to
Speaker 1: say Peter Griffin from Family Guy, but you're not. You
Speaker 1: were you were skinnier than that.
Speaker 2: Well I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, I love you, Brad. Thanks for calling.
Speaker 3: All right, talk to you later.
Speaker 1: Brad Page is a fucking legend. Hello, folks, it's Lyle here.
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