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Speaker 2: heavy Wensday everybody. Hope all of you guys are having

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Speaker 2: a great weeknight too. Of the NBA regular season, all

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Speaker 2: team that everyone's been so high on, gets demolished in

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Speaker 2: But we're going to be covering the nationally televised games tonight,

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Speaker 2: the season. All let's talk some basketball. So there are

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Speaker 2: He has like really good natural feel for lob timing

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Speaker 2: dribble shooting and passing the basketball than he is. I mean,

433
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: that was a he got absolutely embarrassed by Victor wimin

434
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: Yamaa Knight, and then just in general, the complete and

435
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: total lack of ball handling on the right. One of

436
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: the things that specifically stood out to me was the

437
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 2: difference between that and what it looked like for Houston

438
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: last night. Houston lax ball handling, Houston lax shooting. But

439
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 2: Houston has these three real matchup problems that they present

440
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: Alpern Shangoon obviously as this, I mean, he played like

441
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: a superstar last night. Let's not gloss over it. He

442
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: was scoring in the high thirties, dropping dimes, dominating the glass,

443
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: bringing physicality to the position, knocking down wing threes, posting

444
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: up Alex Caruso posting up chet Holmgren Shngoon brings an

445
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: enormous amount of singular offensive greatness to the table. The

446
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: Rockets ran their offense through a man Thompson down the stretch,

447
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: and regulation just slot ISOs versus kiss On Wallace. He

448
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 2: brings a lot of individual matchup problems to the table

449
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: for their opponents. And then Kevin Durant is Kevin freaking Durant,

450
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: and what you're seeing with Dallas is the same lack

451
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: of ball handling, the same lack of shooting, except for

452
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: their primary offensive players are Cooper Flagg, who I think

453
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: is going to be a great NBA player for a

454
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 2: long time, but right now is not a very good score.

455
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: He's a Reid maker, He's a guy that greases the

456
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: wheels for an offense. And then you've got Anthony Davis,

457
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: who's been disappointing for all the reasons we discussed earlier.

458
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: And then you fall off a cliff from there to

459
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: a very old Klay Thompson that's not really going to

460
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 2: hit shots unless he's open in D'Angelo Russell, who again

461
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: is a guy that is a nice pickup for the

462
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: discounted role that he's playing, but that's not going to

463
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 2: go toe to toe with the best ball handlers in

464
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: the league. And so it just kind of was glaring

465
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: to me the difference between Houston's got some roster imbalances,

466
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: but they've just got much better top end talent, and

467
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 2: that was the big difference watching them versus watching Dallas.

468
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: One game, Victor broke you. Obviously, it's gonna be a

469
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: long season. A lot of things can change. I've rooted

470
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: for Anthony Davis for a long time. He does eventually

471
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: get in shape. Ten to fifteen games on the season,

472
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: he'll drop five ten pounds, The jumper will be a

473
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: little smoother, the hand will be a little smoother. Competitively,

474
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: you gotta think AD's man if Ad doesn't come out

475
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: in game two and just annihilate whoever he's playing, like like,

476
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 2: I even want to see the competitiveness. I want to

477
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: see the fire. I want to see him fight after

478
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 2: what was an embarrassing night tonight. That's all I got

479
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: in that game. Let's me go on to sell the

480
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: Cavs Nicks just briefly on this game. The Knicks controlled

481
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: this game from the jump, playing new offense. They're playing

482
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: essentially just playing with a lot of pace, pushing the

483
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 2: ball in transition, They're having more sequences where Jalen Brunson

484
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: is not bringing the ball up the floor, but rather

485
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 2: starting in the corner and coming off of act after

486
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 2: the defense has already shifted. They're using him as a

487
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: screen or more essentially just trying to take advantage of

488
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: what is a roster strength for the Knicks. And I

489
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: think this is an appropriate direction for the Knicks to go.

490
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: And this is why you make a coaching change. This

491
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: is a system, you know, coming from Sacramento with Mike Brown,

492
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: where he was having a lot of three man action,

493
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: a lot of like getting the ball side to side

494
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: and different ball handlers involved. He's just trying to implement

495
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: similar action. And you know, this is a New York

496
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 2: Knicks roster that has a lot of ball handling, right

497
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: Like Jalen Brunson can make plays with the basketball, Karl

498
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns can make plays with the basketball. So can

499
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 2: og so can McHale, so can Douce McBride. Tyler Kohlek

500
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: came in and played some really nice advantage creation basketball tonight.

501
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: You've got ball handling, so you need to use that

502
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: Pushing in transition is generally more efficient.

503
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: Right.

504
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: NBA teams are roughly twenty percent more efficient in transition.

505
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: So you push in transition, you just get your self

506
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 2: more opportunities to score at a higher clip.

507
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: Right.

508
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: It creates early advantages. The entire purpose of running action

509
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: is to get a guy open so that you can

510
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: play drive and kick basketball. If you can do that,

511
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: if you can accomplish that by pushing the floor pushing

512
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: the ball four, then great. But it also saves more

513
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 2: time on the shot clock for multiple attacks. That's where

514
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: you take advantage of your aggregate ball handling. The Knicks

515
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: had games last year where all four of their Big

516
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: four would go for one hundred points. The key is

517
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: trying to get that to happen more often, to have

518
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 2: that become more of the norm rather than the exception.

519
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: They had five players tonight score at least fifteen points.

520
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: There was more rhythm going down the roster. The Knicks

521
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: generated thirty five catch and shoot jump shots tonight. They

522
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: averaged twenty five point five per game last year in

523
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: the regular season. Substantially increased there, albeit in just one

524
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: in just one game. But a big part of it

525
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: that I liked and this was something I noticed throughout

526
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: the game, letting other guys bring the ball to the floor,

527
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: not name Jalen Brunson. More action where it's OJ and

528
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: Obi bringing the ball to the floor, McHale Bridges bringing

529
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: the ball to the floor, Duce McBride bringing the ball

530
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: to the floor. By doing that, you help in a

531
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: couple of key ways. One, you prevent Jalen Brunson from

532
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: wearing down against ball pressure. I saw a similar approach

533
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: from the Lakers at times last night, where they would

534
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: have him just run up to the corner and have

535
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: someone else bring the ball up the floor, rather than

536
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: have Luca have to waste a bunch of energy turning

537
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: his man, you know, dealing with a defender that turns

538
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: him three or four times before he gets.

539
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: Up the floor right.

540
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: The second piece of it is you get more opportunities

541
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: to attack out of the corner and off ball action.

542
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: This helps in two ways. One, it gets the defense

543
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: to shift first, so when the ball handler comes up

544
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: the floor, the defense is keyed in on them. You

545
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: move the ball side to side and then get your

546
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: man attacking. The defense has to shift a shift side

547
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: to side that can loosen up a little bit, and

548
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: then the second piece of it is one of the

549
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: best ways to beat ball pressure is to not have

550
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: to dribble when Jalen Brunson can use his hands to

551
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: shed the defender with a swim move to then come

552
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: off the action and then catch and get right downhill.

553
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: By the way, Jalen missed some shots tonight that he

554
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: usually makes. He had a little floater coming off of

555
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: one of those pin downs off the left side that

556
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: he just happened to smoke. He missed some shots tonight

557
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: that were really good looks for him coming off of

558
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: those actions that will go in over the course of

559
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: this season. And by the way, him and Kat both

560
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: just looked a tiny bit out of rhythm in preseason

561
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: when I was watching him too, And like, this is

562
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: to be expected when you change your system, when you

563
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: change the style that you play. It's one of those

564
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 2: things that can lead to a little bit of a rhythm,

565
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: you know, it can lead to a little bit of

566
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: like a period of growing pains, so to speak. So

567
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: that goes without saying, but in general, I thought they

568
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: just kind of had more verve and more intensity down

569
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: the roster, fueled by the fact that everyone is involved.

570
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: I also thought they kind of kept some of that

571
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: classic Nick's grittiness that they've shown in recent years, especially

572
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: in the offensive glass, like they had they had eight

573
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: different players secure an offensive rebound tonight. I thought they

574
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: came out with impressive energy and just competitiveness in this game.

575
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: Kenny Atkinson actually referenced it at halftime to his team,

576
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: but he thought the Knicks came out and punched him

577
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: in the mouth, and that's exactly what they did. And again,

578
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: I still think there's lots of room for improvement there.

579
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: There's a lot of looks that got missed. Brunson missed

580
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: a bunch, Og missed several easy ones early in the game.

581
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: I really liked the job that Tyler Kullak came did

582
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: when he came in the game. Him and Duce McBride

583
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: did awesome off the bench Deuce just bringing kind of

584
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: like aggressive movement shooting, and then Tyler Kullik like, this

585
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: is the important piece. When you're trying to play that

586
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: advantage basketball where everyone's involved and everyone's driving closeouts and

587
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: the ball's moving side to side, it starts with that

588
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: initial advance and in order to get that initial advantage,

589
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: you need to run an action and out of that

590
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: action have a player that can make the read and

591
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: the read that Tyler Kolek kept making tonight, and he

592
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: made several good ones, like there was a switch where

593
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: he was able to feed the ball to Karl Anthony

594
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: Towns and Karl Anthony Towns drew a foul. But one

595
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: of the reads that he kept making tonight was the

596
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: cross court to the opposite wing. A lot of times,

597
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: when you come off of an action, the lowman who's

598
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: guarding the opposite corner will slide in underneath the basket

599
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: right and then as kind of like a preliminary X out,

600
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: so to speak, the guy who's guarding the opposite wing

601
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: will drop to the corner and then the lowman will

602
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: try to rotate back out to the wing. It's like

603
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: an X out, but a lot of teams will do

604
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: it early and to have that top wing guy drop

605
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: to the corner because a lot of times when guys

606
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: get downhill, they want to fire it to the corner

607
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: and you'll see a lot of turnovers there where like

608
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: the low man steps over and the guard fires the

609
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: pass to the corner and that guy drops from the

610
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: wing and jumps right into the passing and gets an

611
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: interception right Tyler was rifling it across his body to

612
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: the opposite wing, and he generated a couple of like

613
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: butt naked three point shots that didn't go in, And like,

614
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: I just think he makes a lot of sense as

615
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: a guy that just kind of keeps that engine flowing

616
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: when he comes into the game, brings the ball up

617
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: the floor, makes a quick decision with the basketball out

618
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: of an early read, out of an early action, then

619
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: they can just play their driving kick out of that. Overall,

620
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 2: an impressive opening showing. Again, they hit a little bit

621
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: of a loll in the third quarter. Part of it

622
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: was Donovan Mitchell came out and went on a crazy

623
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: scoring run. Donovan Donovan had this weird game where he

624
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: came out and was like not looking to be aggressive

625
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: at all, and the Calves didn't look like they knew

626
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: what to do, and so Evan Mobley just kept jacking

627
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: up shots early in the game, took a couple of settled,

628
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: like kind of mid arranged Jones shots. We'll talk about

629
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: Evan in a minute. But the Calves looked all decombobulated,

630
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: discombobulated on offense in the first half. But to start

631
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: the second half. Donovan came out and was like, screw

632
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: all that, I'm gonna get going as a score, and

633
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: he threw a hell of a punch and the Calves

634
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: we went on a run and they pushed it close,

635
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: but overall they continued to play good basketball throughout the game.

636
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: They stiff armed him, kept going on little runs, and

637
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: they were able to put this thing away in the

638
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Good start for the Knicks. On the Calves front,

639
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: it is jarring. And this dates back to the playoff series,

640
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 2: and this is a big part of why I wasn't

641
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: as down on Cleveland as everyone else was after the

642
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: after the disappointing playoff performance. I just think Darius Garland

643
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: is incredibly important to this team. We talked a lot

644
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: about the idea of advantage creation with Tyler Kolek earlier right,

645
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: and just in general from like transition pushes and things

646
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: along those lines that start the engine of the Nicks

647
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 2: drive and kick. Well, Darius Garland is the guy who

648
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: does that for Cleveland. The problem with Donovan Mitchell and

649
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: we discussed this in our player rankings, and it's why

650
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: I'm not quite as high on him as some of

651
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: the other people are that cover the league. But Donovan

652
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: can be a little tunnel vision and he can just

653
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 2: kind of look for his shot. He's not as good

654
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: at like using the power of his scoring ability to

655
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: take advantage of the defense reacting to him and take

656
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: easy kickout reads to start the engine of the offense.

657
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: A lot of times he's just hunting really difficult shots,

658
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: and he's a very good, difficult shot maker, and when

659
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: he's making him, he can be unbelievable. And I'm not

660
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: going to sit here and be overly critical, because this

661
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: is a guy that continues to average thirty points a

662
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: game efficiently in every playoff run. So shout out to

663
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell to score. But in order to this Calve's

664
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: team that was playing with incredible pace that was generating

665
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: a ton of quality three point shots last year. It

666
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: was fueled by the job that Darius Garland did knifing

667
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: into the teeth of the defense early in possessions with

668
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: his speed, not to score the basketball, but to kick

669
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: to shooters. And then the Calves were just really good

670
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: at playing read and react basketball out of that. And

671
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: so that was the first thing that stood out to me,

672
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: was just not having Darius out there. The second piece

673
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: of it is like when you start to take Darius

674
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: out and then you take Max Struce out, they start

675
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: to become pretty light on that refined offensive skill, like

676
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: they're big. Shot the ball well tonight. Evan Mobley hit

677
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: some threes, Larry ns hit some threes. Actually really liked

678
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: the Larry and Ants fit just bringing some shooting to

679
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: the five spot and just his ability to drive closeouts

680
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: and he can also play alongside another one of their

681
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: bigs like Larry Nts.

682
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: It looked good tonight. I was happy.

683
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: They got got in trouble with Kenny Atkinson once for

684
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: leaking out in transition and giving up an offensive rebound

685
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: and got called for time out that Kenny called a

686
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: timeout to choose ass But like I thought, Larry Antse

687
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: looked good. Evan Mobley shot the ball well. But the

688
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: rest of the perimeter corps is a lot of Jalen

689
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: Tyson who struggled at times to guard Darius, to guard

690
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson, and you know obviously doesn't have a ton

691
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: of offense like refined offensive skill. Tyree's Proctor like won

692
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: the lottery pick. This is a guy that you know

693
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: is you know being asked to do a lot for

694
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: a player of his pedigree at this point. There's a

695
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: lot of Tyree's Proctor tonight, a lot of him, you know,

696
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: taking pull up threes against unders and pick and roll

697
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: or missing open threes in transition pushes, and like, there's

698
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: just a lot of like guys that are being slotted

699
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 2: up into roles that are a bit above their pay

700
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 2: grade in large part because of the injuries to Darius

701
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: Garland and Max stru So try not to be overly

702
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: critical of Cleveland tonight. I think Darius Garland is their engine.

703
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 2: And if it wasn't, I if them getting their ass

704
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: beat by Indiana when he was injured wasn't the indicator

705
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: of that. I think tonight was another indicator of that.

706
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: Last kind of thought before we get out of here,

707
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: before we get to our questions from the audience, Evan Mobley,

708
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: a little bit of a helter skelter game from him.

709
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: I thought he came out super aggressive, which on the

710
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: one hand, is nice, but I thought he settled for

711
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: some mid range jumps and like, this is where I'd

712
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: love to see him kind of do some of the

713
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 2: stuff that we're seeing from Wemby, where there's a little

714
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: bit more of a forward aggression to his high post

715
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: attacks and his attacks in the middle of the floor

716
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: where he can try to get into the body of

717
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 2: the defender a little bit and take shorter, easier shots

718
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: than some of these like drifting, fading jump shots that

719
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: he was taking. Another thing too, is like when you're thin,

720
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: like Evan Mobley is, you can draw a lot of

721
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: fouls that way when you bring that aggression. I mean,

722
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: Wenby drew a lot of fouls today just by like

723
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: you know, going up aggressively towards like kind of towards

724
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: the rim and then falling down when he'd get hit

725
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: because he still is thinner than some of these dudes, right, So,

726
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: like I want to see a little bit more of

727
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: the to the rim aggression just to kind of allow

728
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: a little bit more balance. And then what ends up

729
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: happening is when you do that, all of a sudden,

730
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: when you start to go to those mid rangers, you

731
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: get more natural separation because the defense is playing the

732
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: drive a little bit more, and now instead of it

733
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: being like a heavily contested, you know, nasty fade away,

734
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: it's a little bit more of an up and down

735
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: rising fire over your right shoulder type of shot that

736
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: I think he does have the touch to hit at

737
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: a high level and good to see him hit some threes,

738
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: made a lot of plays defensively tonight. He competed again.

739
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 2: I just want to see a little bit more downhill

740
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: aggression for him on the ball as he continues to develop.

741
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: All right, Jackson, let's get to our audience questions.

742
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it first one, we can

743
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: stick on that game for just a second. What did

744
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: you think of a Lonzo ball tonight? Do you feel

745
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: like he can be sort of a useful piece for

746
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: them if not like a you know, in term starter

747
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: when Darius Carland until Darius Carland's.

748
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: Back, So a lot of good and bad, you know.

749
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: It's it's so funny because Lonzo kind of reminds me

750
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: of just a lesser version of Tyrese Haliburton in the

751
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: sense that he has a good length and speed at

752
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: the guard position. He's obviously a better defender than Tyrese,

753
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: but he plays length. He has length and passing lanes

754
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: kind of similar to the way Tyrese does. But the

755
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: big thing that similar Tyrese is he just gets rid

756
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: of the basketball. It just every single time he touches it,

757
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: it's a kick ahead pass as soon as possible. When

758
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: he runs action in the half court, he gets rid

759
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: of the ball quickly to the advantage. He just kind

760
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: of greases the wheels. One of the things I liked

761
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: that he did off the ball tonight is like he

762
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: kind of perpetually stays in motion and he will provide quick,

763
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: little outlet opportunities to offensive players for Cleveland that gets

764
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: in that get into a tough spot, Like guy picks

765
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: up his dribble, is in a tough spot. Lonzo's not

766
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: just standing at the three point line thirty feet away.

767
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: He'll flash high post and make his hands available. He

768
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: got an offensive rebound that he kicked out for a

769
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: three point shot on a play where he just kind

770
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: of was lurking along the baseline on a cut.

771
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 3: Like.

772
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good that I liked, but obviously

773
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: he missed the shots. He had several really clean looks

774
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 2: from three, especially in the first half. One of the

775
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: most hilarious, kind of like random heat check moments was

776
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: he was like zero for five from three, and then

777
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter late like when the Cavs were

778
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: down ten. I believe he just like came down and

779
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 2: took like an early clock like pull up twenty seven

780
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: footer and like nailed it. And then like one possession

781
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: later he took like another twenty seven footer and missed it,

782
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: and I was like, all right, dude, you're one for seven.

783
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 3: Looks chill a little bit on the threes. And then

784
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: he had a couple of.

785
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 2: His passes where he kind of just had a little

786
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: bit too much dip on his chip and kind of

787
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: rifled it way too hard out of bounds. He had

788
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: a couple I think he ended up with like four turnovers,

789
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: and a few of them were we're just kind of

790
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: sloppy cross court passes that he was off target on.

791
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: So like I think, I think overall, I really liked

792
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: the fit. I think that was probably as bad as

793
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: you'll see the Lonzo ball experience if you're a Cavs fan,

794
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: like missing the open shots and the turnovers. But what

795
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: I did think he provided was just he just provides

796
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: that pace for those calves bench units, and I think

797
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: that that's gonna allow them to kind of sustain some

798
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: of that play when he's on the floor.

799
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: For sure. Obviously, the story of the night was Wemby,

800
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: So we got a couple Wemby and Spurgel. They had

801
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: questions burst up Wemby, goatwatch where are we at?

802
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: Here's all I'm gonna say, He's sure as hell has

803
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: the potential. Yeah, I mean, we're all lying to ourselves

804
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: if we don't think he does. I mean, I've been

805
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: trying to think, Jackson, how many times have we seen

806
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 2: a superstar not just beat one of the other superstars

807
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: in the league or even out play them, but like

808
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: completely and utterly dismantle them on national television?

809
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: Like the only Lady crumble.

810
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: Mind is Luca against the Suns in the playoffs, which

811
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: is a different thing obviously, but yeah, it's it was

812
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable.

813
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he he emotionally dominated that game every bit

814
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 2: as much as he you know, dominated with his play.

815
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: I think, like, here's the thing. Health is going to

816
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: be a question mark. I still think there's like the Okay,

817
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: you were allowed to play one on one quite a

818
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: bit tonight against their bigs in space. How is this

819
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: going to look against more double teaming? Although I think

820
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: I think I think one's a good passer, so I

821
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: don't think that's gonna be an issue, and his thing

822
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: is like he can just kind of hold the ball

823
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: up here. And then the other thing too is like

824
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: I want to see you know, one of the challenges

825
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: for him in his career is gonna be the Oklahoma

826
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: City types and the teams that like are swarming and

827
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: really play up underneath him rather than trying to meet

828
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: him up top. I mean, if onebe demonstrated one thing tonight,

829
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: it's that big dudes cannot guard him.

830
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: I was another question that I posted the chat, and

831
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna post to you now. We got a variety

832
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: of different answer from the chat. I can give those

833
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: after who do you think is the best player in

834
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: the NBA to guard Webby or the best type? What's

835
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: the best type of player? You don't have a single player.

836
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: Man, That is a really good question. Ironically, I think

837
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: I think Aleu dort type would be the direction that

838
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: I would go.

839
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: The problem is is like he's actually really fast.

840
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: And nimble, and he's so good with his footwork that

841
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: even some of the bigger forwards, like even the PJ.

842
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: Washington types, can't really handle him down there where What

843
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: we saw with Lou against Kevin Durant is like he

844
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: can quite literally get up underneath your base, yeah, and

845
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: just make you uncomfortable all game long, and that can

846
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: really affect some of your shot making at times, Like

847
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: I even thought it affected Katie shot making, especially from

848
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: the three point line in that game. So like I think,

849
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: I think it would be like a fire hydrant, like

850
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: somewhere six four to six', five super, strong super, physical

851
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: one of those dudes who fouls you from start of

852
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: the game to the end of the, game but somehow

853
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: gets away with. It what's your.

854
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: TAKE i think that's a good. Answer that the chat

855
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: gave a variety of. Answers there was A yannis you,

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00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: know Some yiannis. Talk there was someone Said Jaylen, william

857
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: someone Said Timani. KAMARA i think those are ALL i

858
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: think it's GONNA i think a mid sized, player it

859
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: probably makes the most. SENSE i was a presidency Of

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Speaker 1: draymond in the.

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00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: CHAT i Think Ramon draymond would be.

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00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: Interesting usually my answer for most. Players, FRANKLY i think

863
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: he's a pretty good, answer just because he is not too,

864
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 1: slow but you, know very very strong and has super

865
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: long arms as. Well it's a it's a tough. ONE

866
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: i was trying to think of like the Lou dort

867
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: type makes. SENSE i was, like what About Alix. Caruso i'm,

868
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: like is he too small to guard a player Like?

869
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: Wemby he Guarded jokis for, stretches you, know but that's

870
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: NOT i don't know about a full game Of Alice

871
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: caruso On wemby.

872
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 3: Either it's a tough.

873
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: Question tough.

874
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: Question draymond is interesting, because LIKE i, mean let's just

875
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: look at last, night like Every Golden State warrior was

876
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 2: fried chicken except For. Draymond, Yeah draymond was the one

877
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: guy that you could. Tell luca was, like, Eh i'm

878
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,479
Speaker 2: gonna get rid of the, basketball, like and so would

879
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: that be in the, Case LIKE i THINK i Think.

880
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: DRAYMOND i actually THINK i Like draymond more Than. Door

881
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: AND i THINK i think you got the right answer.

882
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: Here someone is Interesting.

883
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: Bam, also which is an interesting. One he's like a

884
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: more true big but he's so.

885
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: Versatile, Yeah bam is an interesting, one ALTHOUGH i Think

886
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: wemby would probably cook him. TOO i love the point you, made,

887
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: LIKE i Think draymond might just be the answer.

888
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: To answer for most and most especially like alien type

889
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: because he's kind of a weird defensive alien. Type, yeah all,

890
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: right as A mavericks, fan are we cooked Until kyrie comes?

891
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: Back and then second part someone else, asked do you

892
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: think D lo is like a serviceable starting option until

893
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: that and considering you, know the ball the glaring ball handling.

894
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: Issues, Tonight, yeah you. Know D LO i thought was

895
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: good in the first. Half he kept getting working his

896
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: way to the foul, line which kind of was manufacturing

897
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 2: points for. Them he does a good job of hitting

898
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: a d in the, pocket has a little bit of

899
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: scoring ability in the middle of the. Floor but THEN

900
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: i also thought you saw an example of the downside

901
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: of D lo where he kind of cooled off and

902
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 2: he Started he smoked two layups in the late second,

903
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: quarter started missing some of those midterrane. SHOTS i don't

904
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 2: dislike D lo as an. OPTION i THINK i think LIKE. MANJ.

905
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: Pj washington reminds me Of Jabari, smith where you could tell, me,

906
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 2: oh that's too, big you need to go with more.

907
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: Speed but Specifically pj's ability to shoot almost makes him

908
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: indispensable in that, lineup AND i thought the broadcast did

909
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: a good job calling that out. Tonight, Similarly Jabari smith

910
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: like his ability just to knock, down catch and shoot

911
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: threes kind of makes him indispensable With houston's best. Lineups so,

912
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 2: like if you're gonna PLAY, pj then it really comes

913
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: down To clay or D. Lo and the thing With,

914
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 2: clay he provides the, shooting but they're not good at finding.

915
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: HIM i, mean there was a, play did you see

916
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: the one in the second half where they got the

917
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: offensive rebound AND Pj washington had the ball in the

918
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: left wing And Clay thompson was standing like five feet

919
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: away from, him wide, open AND pj looked him, off

920
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: and Then clay was Just clay showed some bad body

921
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: language after. That don't blame him as a wide open.

922
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: Shooter but LIKE i, think If clay's not actually gonna

923
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: get the ball and provide some real utility as a,

924
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 2: Spacer i'd almost rather go with D lo for just just.

925
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: All handling with that.

926
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: GROUP i think it Slots cooper a little bit easier

927
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: as like a secondary ball. Handler part of San antonio's

928
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: like second half run was that ugly stretch From cooper

929
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: where he made like five bad decisions in a, row

930
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: like at the rim and a couple of tough mid

931
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: range jump shots as far as whether or not The

932
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: MAVs are, cooked here's All i'm gonna.

933
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: Say it's one game victor. Women yama is an.

934
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: Alien he just put forth one of the most dominant

935
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: performances that we've ever. SEEN i think that might actually

936
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 2: be one of the worst Games i've ever Seen Anthony davis.

937
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: Play so, like it's.

938
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: Hard to like go with the sweeping, Declarations but the

939
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: one thing THAT i will say, IS i do you

940
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 2: agree with me about the juxtaposition with them In houston

941
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: and how they just didn't have the top end firepower

942
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: that used to.

943
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: Have, yeah it's a completely different thing than what he says.

944
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: Doing, Yeah, so LIKE i just that was The that

945
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: was the one TAKEAWAY i had that was, Like, okay

946
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: this isn't a game one.

947
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: Takeaway this is like a real big picture.

948
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: Takeaway they they just don't Have they have a bad

949
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: combination of lacking offensive firepower but also lacking spacing and

950
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: refined offensive skill off the, ball AND i think that

951
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: that's kind of a death sentence for.

952
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: Them, YEAH i, MEAN i just think their roster construction

953
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: is just right away. Rearing its said you're. Seeing never

954
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: mind the lack of guard. Depth if we were talking

955
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: about what's their actual best five person. Lineup it's Probably

956
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: Anthony davis at the five And Derek lively just not

957
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: on the. Floor but you can't really do that right,

958
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: Now like what do you how are you going to

959
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 1: do that right? Now you kind of. Can't like their

960
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: best lineup when everyone's healthy is probably something Like kyrie Clay,

961
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: Flett COOPER pj And Anthony, davis but then you're sitting

962
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: you're young center And Daniel gaffer when he gets, Back

963
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: like IT'S i just think it doesn't make a lot

964
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: of sense right.

965
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: Now.

966
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah the other thing that was disappointing to me is

967
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: LIKE i didn't think they were as good defensively as

968
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: they needed to. Be and by the way this stood

969
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 2: out to me in, preseason they're a little, slow they're

970
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 2: not doing as much switching as you would, think they

971
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: get compromised at the perimeter pretty, consistently and they get

972
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: beat down the floor in. Transition San antonio ran right

973
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: around those dudes a bunch of times, tonight and like

974
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: one of the downsides to bad, offense when you're light

975
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: on handling and refined offensive, skill you're gonna have a

976
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: lot of. Turnovers you're gonna have a lot of bad.

977
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 2: Shots you're gonna have a lot of bad missed jump

978
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: shots in, particular and those are gonna spark fast breaks

979
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: where all of a sudden that lack of foot speed

980
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: is going to become a. Problem but, yeah LIKE i,

981
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: mean on the one, hand you want to write off

982
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: some of this as just A wemby, Masterclass but, yeah

983
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: there are definitely some big picture issues With dallas that

984
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: kind of leaned With they kind of look more like

985
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: The lakers to me as a team that showed some

986
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: inherent flaws on opening night for.

987
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: Sure for, sure thank You goldting in the chat for

988
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: the super chat about ant dropping forty one in icing the.

989
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: Game we will definitely be talking about The Anthony edwards

990
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: performance later this week at some, points just not. Tonight

991
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: next question got a couple. More do you think The

992
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: spurs were sort of looking ahead? Here do you think

993
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: The spurs could end up in a similar situation To,

994
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: okay see in the twenty tend especially with the CURRENT,

995
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: cba where they have three certified guys for the, future

996
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: but they end up not being able to sort of

997
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: keep all of them.

998
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 3: In one might have to. Go, yeah you, know.

999
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 2: So much of the development Of Stefan castle And Devin

1000
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 2: visell in this stretch When Deeron fox is out is

1001
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: going to be interesting because there's also going to be

1002
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 2: a version here where like what if they turn around

1003
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: and flip The Aaron fox for more, picks like just

1004
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: because all of a sudden they're happy with their guard

1005
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 2: core even if they lost, it BECAUSE i think THEY

1006
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: i think they paid three first rounders For fox IF

1007
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: i remember, correctly and so even if they got two,

1008
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: back you start to think of it Like Oklahoma. City

1009
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: and this is something THAT i think has actually been

1010
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: really smart about the way That Sam presty has set this.

1011
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: Up there's been all this talk about, like, oh what

1012
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: if they just package all these picks for you, Know

1013
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: Lori mark and in or For Gianni. Santanakumpo but the

1014
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: truth of the matter is is when all these dudes get,

1015
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 2: expensive one of the ways that you can actually find

1016
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: discounted players in this. LEAGUE a lot of people think vet,

1017
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: men a lot of people think level. Exception What i've

1018
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: been intrigued by now is rookie, contracts and specifically the

1019
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: two teams THAT i think of WHEN i look at

1020
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: this Are Golden state And Oklahoma, city because what they

1021
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 2: do is they keep finding these Will, richards and they

1022
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: keep finding These Cason, wallace's and they keep finding these

1023
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: dudes that are like they're going to make less than

1024
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 2: ten million a year for four, years and they're highly,

1025
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: tradable and they they're not going for super. Upside they're

1026
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: going for dudes that can play in their. System, Now

1027
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: cason is showing a lot of. Upside, like, dude did

1028
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 2: you see his like one foot dunkin transition last? NIGHT

1029
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: i was, like Good, god that dude's a ridiculous. Athlete

1030
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: it's like maybe you know there's some upside, anyway but

1031
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: like that's the WAY i kind of look at. It

1032
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 2: with San, Antonio it's LIKE i almost envision it being

1033
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 2: you have your core. Three let's say It's Steph, Castle

1034
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: Like Devin vessel is an interesting player because he's actually

1035
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: turned into a decent LITTLE iso. Score you can hit

1036
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: some shots over the, top but he probably feels the

1037
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: most replaceable to me out of the three. Guards like

1038
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: What Dylan harper And Steph castle do is like really really,

1039
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: unique Whereas Devin vessel like as a movement, shooter like

1040
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: if you got, like let's just put it this. Way

1041
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: if you put if you got LIKE. Cj McCollum on a,

1042
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: buyout he's gonna provide like eighty percent of What Devin

1043
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: vessel can provide as like a movement shooter and is

1044
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: a guy that can hit shots in, action whereas Like

1045
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: Steph castle does stuff that not many guys in the

1046
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: league can. Do And devin and, Uh Dylan harper has

1047
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: this like weird kind of like PSEUDO sga, upside, Right

1048
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: so like you target those three they all Sign max's

1049
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: you gotta let all of the dudes who are making

1050
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: mid level salaries on your roster go one way or.

1051
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: Another that just Like Oklahoma city's gonna have to Let

1052
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 2: hart And sign, go and they're gonna have to Let cruso,

1053
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: go and they're probably gonna have to Let dort. Go

1054
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: and what they're gonna do is they're gonna cycle in

1055
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: these rookie contracts with this play throw of draft picks

1056
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: that they have and they have so many of them

1057
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: that they they have so many of them that they

1058
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: can admiss on some and it's not a big. Deal

1059
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 2: And San antonio still has one heck of a trove

1060
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: of draft picks, available and if they convert a couple

1061
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 2: of these dudes into, picks they get a pick For Devin,

1062
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 2: vessel if they get a pick for or two picks

1063
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: For deer And. Fox at some point they could have

1064
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 2: the picks to continue to anchor the roster as the

1065
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: younger players get more.

1066
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: Expensive for.

1067
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: Sure last, question BECAUSE i know we were texting a

1068
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: little bit and you were watching a little bit of

1069
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: the The Orlando miami. Game did you catch any of

1070
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: the other games in the early window and do you

1071
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 1: have any sort of like quick just off the top

1072
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: thoughts before we sort of dive.

1073
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: Into those a little more later in the.

1074
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: Week, Again, yeah we will dive into these later in the,

1075
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: week BUT i did WHILE i was Watching Knicks, CALVES

1076
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: i watched most of the first half Of Magic, heat and,

1077
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 2: like it's just kind of a frustrating experience because on

1078
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: the very first possession of the, game they run A

1079
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 2: Bain palo pick and roll off the left, side and

1080
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: they show at the level And baine Hits polo in the.

1081
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 2: Pocket polo's barreling downhill on a four on. Three they

1082
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: tag him on the, roll but they don't tag the

1083
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: dunker spot With Wendell Carter. Junior paolo throws an easy

1084
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: lob and Then Wendell Carter junior dunks, it and then

1085
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 2: they just go away from. It and, like Poor, jackson

1086
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: he's doing whatever he's doing this, evening And i'm just

1087
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: bombarding his follow with clips BECAUSE i was like getting

1088
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: so frustrated watching that game because it's like literally like

1089
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: Like jackson can speak to. IT i mean like they're

1090
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: they literally just stand around and play one on.

1091
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 3: One it's the.

1092
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: Craziest it's the craziest fucking. Thing they stand around and

1093
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: they play one on one and it's like stupid. Too it's,

1094
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: Like i'm we're Gonna pallo's like going one on one

1095
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: Against bam and like and like and by the, way

1096
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: they were hitting, shots LIKE i was, watching they were

1097
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 2: hitting shots and scoring the basketball this, way but process verst.

1098
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: RESULTS i was, like ALL i could think about is,

1099
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: like especially when you run into tougher competition down the,

1100
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: line like you need to maximize your. Talent you maximize

1101
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: your talent by being more deliberate with the way that you.

1102
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: Attack but you, know it's. FUNNY i ran into a

1103
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: guy THAT i was talking, to just a fan of

1104
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: the show THAT i ran into here In denver and

1105
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: he was talking to me about how he's like not

1106
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: super high On Palow and what it got me thinking about,

1107
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: is like we talked so much About Jamal, moseley but

1108
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: like the player's gotta bear some responsibility for this, Too

1109
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: AND i do Think palo deserves some blame in the sense,

1110
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: that like he makes life harder on himself with the

1111
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: way that he plays sometimes. Too AND i, KNOW i

1112
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: Know orlando one tonight And i'm Sure i'll go watch the,

1113
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: game and there's a lot to be impressed. By And

1114
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: Desmond bane's a great. Fit he's really. Good there's a

1115
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: lot To they had some transition pushes and showed their

1116
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: athleticism and a lot of, upside but LIKE i JUST

1117
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 2: i just wish they were more deliberate and like intelligent

1118
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: for lack of a better, word with the way they

1119
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: attacked on.

1120
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: Offense, yeah that totally makes. SENSE i got a little

1121
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: bit of a or a good chunk Of celtic seventy

1122
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: six ers and the two biggest takeaways were That Joel

1123
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: embi looks awful and Vjl oh really looks. Amazing edgecomb

1124
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: is incredible already he's so good and he is a

1125
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: super super super, athlete And Joel embiid was basically not out. There.

1126
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah SO i saw THE vj edgecomb like crossover dunk

1127
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: Against Xavier, tillman AND i was.

1128
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 3: Like Good, god he is.

1129
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: Bossed and THEN i did see a brief little highlight

1130
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: reel Of Joel embiid seemingly unwilling to.

1131
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 3: Jump he.

1132
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: Didn't really do anything other than he he made one

1133
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: mid range. Jumper what he was basically wide. Open he

1134
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: foul grifted aggressively a couple of times when you, know

1135
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: shout out to foul, grifting and he kind of just

1136
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: he just looks heavy and like not, hurt but like formerly.

1137
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: Hurt you, know it doesn't he's not moving. Well is

1138
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: basically how about describe.

1139
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 3: It that's.

1140
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: Depressing, Yeah i'm excited to dig into. It LIKE i,

1141
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: saw like we're all high on The, hawks AND i

1142
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: saw The pelicans went in and just Destroyed. ATLANTA i

1143
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: think they had eighty something points in the paint. Us,

1144
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: Allegedly kawhi had one of the worst games of his

1145
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: career as The clippers went Into.

1146
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: UTAH i thought it was a MIN i, KNOW i.

1147
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 3: Looked at the box, score AND i was, like what

1148
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 3: the hell?

1149
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: Happened like, like these were two teams In atlanta and

1150
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: The clippers THAT i was super high. On so like

1151
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: it's a casual reminder of, like, hey let's not all

1152
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: over react to one. Game like a lot of these

1153
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: teams are gonna play. Better season openers bring a weird,

1154
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: intensity especially for the home. Team but, yeah we're Gonna

1155
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: i'm gonna wake up tomorrow morning and over some, Coffee

1156
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: i'm gonna watch a bunch of film And i'll have some.

1157
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: Thoughts i'll probably build at least one or two additional

1158
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: segments for tomorrow show because we have a light slate.

1159
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: Tomorrow i'll bring some to that. Game and then, again

1160
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: just in the comments underneath this, video just whatever games

1161
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: you want to hear, about just drop your questions And

1162
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: i'll get to them in the mailbag On friday. Morning All, right,

1163
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: Guys it's ALL i have for tonight is always a

1164
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: sincerely appreciate. You appreciate you guys for supporting, us in

1165
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: supporting the. Show we'll be back tomorrow with another, slate

1166
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: closing With Golden state Versus denver in the evening. Game

1167
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: it's gonna be highly entertaining one a debut of the

1168
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: team THAT i have picked as my championship, favorite so

1169
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 2: very interested to see how they. Look And Golden state

1170
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: looked awesome On, tuesday so that's going to be a

1171
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: super interesting. Game we'll be breaking it all down here on.

1172
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: YouTube autter the final. Buzzer i'll see you guys. Ahead