1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: Ninety one days. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: That's what they were saying, at least Clay on morning Joe, 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: as I was drinking my Crocket coffee because I do 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: have my Crocket here this morning, they were telling me that, 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: and they were doing everything they could to puff up 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: the sense of historic conquests that they are telling the 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: Democrats they're going to have here with this victory insight. 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, Tim Walls not to be confused with Waltz. 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: Thank you to our Minnesota listeners. 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: We realize Walls and we're living in an alternate universe now, 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that we could ignore the people 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: who have created this alternate universe. We have to defeat 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: the madness. We'll break this down. I think that the 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: overwhelming sense on the conservative side of things right now 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: is what we were saying yesterday. I mean, I really, Clay, 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: you know all morning it's prepped for our show, and 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: then sometimes I can see what some of the sentiments 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: are from some of our friends and colleagues on the 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: right afterwards, and I did not see a single person 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: still who thinks that this is a smart pick, but 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: I want to break it down. I want us today 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: to get into the policy differences, the record and make 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: sure that we all have clarity on exactly who, not 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: just Tim Walls is, but also what this Kamala Harris 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Walls ticket is really all about. I mean, this is 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: the most left wing and it is not an exaggeration. 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: It is not some you know, talk radio talking point. 30 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: It is the truth that this is the most left 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: wing Democrat ticket certainly in our lifetime. And I think 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: you'd have to go back to what Eugene Debs running 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: as a straight up socialist maybe, and even back then 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: the socialists were a little bit less crazy than the 35 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: left wing Democrats are now. But here we go. Let's 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: give you some examples of what we're talking about here 37 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: with Walls, they are presenting him Clay as a cuddly 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: coach and veteran who wears you know, lumberjack shirts and 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: goes hunting, and he's a different kind of Democrat. And 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: we're here to just remind every it's all afront all 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: a facade, what he looks like, how he dresses, if 42 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: he chooses to go hunting on the weekends or not 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: does not matter. What matters is what does this guy 44 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: stand for? What does he do with the power that 45 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: he has been given by the people of Minnesota in 46 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: previous elections. The answer is he is a pro trans lunacy, 47 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: far left wing pro BLM, burning down neighborhoods in the 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: biggest city in his state. 49 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: Radical. 50 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: That's what he actually dands for. He is the guy 51 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: who set up a COVID snitch hotline. Oh, somebody got 52 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: out of their house to go play basketball. They're a risk. 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: Let's lock them up, or let's give them a fine. 54 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: Call your police officers. It was nuts here he is Clay. 55 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much here to go after. Here 56 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: he is saying that this is where he's doing the 57 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: whole folks. See the folks, see dance for everybody. 58 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just such a good old guy. You can 59 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: trust me. I'm a Midwestern guy just like you. Oh, 60 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: come on, this is cut four. Listen to this. Some 61 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: of us are old enough to remember. 62 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: When it was Republicans who were talking about freedom. It 63 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: turns out now what they meant was the government should 64 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: be free to invade your doctor's office. 65 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: In Minnesota. 66 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: We respect our neighbors and their personal choices that they make, 67 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: even if we wouldn't make the same choice for ourselves. 68 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: There's a golden rule. Mind your own damn business. 69 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: That's not the golden rule. But put that aside for 70 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: a second. The guy who set up the COVID snitch 71 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: hot line for people who wanted fresh air is presenting 72 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: himself as the for choice and for freedom guy Clay. 73 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: It's just all a lie. It's all a facade. 74 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 5: It's a total lie. 75 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 6: And again, I think that is really important that he's 76 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 6: trying to pretend that he's for freedom while he's supporting 77 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 6: a candidate that wanted to mandate that everyone have to 78 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 6: get the COVID shot, even though we know the COVID 79 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 6: shot is effectively worthless. Right, I think even left wingers 80 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 6: now are who got five and six and seven and 81 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 6: eight of those COVID shots are like, yeah, it's basically 82 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 6: at best kind of a tie and all for COVID 83 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 6: and it hasn't really altered the trajectory of the virus 84 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 6: at all. And meanwhile, these companies have gotten fabulously wealthy. 85 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 6: But to me, what it is buck in many ways 86 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 6: is clarifying about Kamala Kamala is a chameleon. She is 87 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 6: trying to be all things to all people. Right now, 88 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 6: we are sitting at what day seventeen since she became 89 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 6: the nominee effectively, and she still hasn't done an interview, 90 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 6: She hasn't come off a teleprompter, She hasn't even done 91 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 6: an unscripted interaction with real voters in any of these jurisdictions. 92 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 6: They are trying to hide Kamala because they know that 93 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 6: she is a gaff prone machine that is actually pretty 94 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 6: unlikable when she is off the prompter. What is intriguing 95 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 6: to me is it's working so far, and this is 96 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 6: why I get nervous about this process. Thirty days from now, 97 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 6: vote start. So whatever the universe is in Trump VI. Kamala, 98 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 6: the snapshot of that universe is continuing every day. And 99 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 6: what I'm saying there is we don't have an election 100 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 6: day anymore. We have an election season. So if you're 101 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 6: popular after Labor Day, that gets locked in, that snapshot 102 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 6: of that day gets locked in with millions of voters 103 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 6: all throughout the next ninety days. And so my concern is, 104 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 6: you gotta knock Kamala off that prompter. And I don't 105 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 6: think there's anybody in media that's actually going to argue 106 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 6: that she needs to do it, and they're going to 107 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 6: try to hide her. That's the entire campaign. 108 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Now, will she debate or not is certainly a question 109 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: in all this. I can see Democrats. Remember I thought 110 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: Biden wouldn't debate, and let me be clear, he shouldn't 111 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: have debated. Had he not debated, he would be the 112 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: nominee and I would be picking out an overpriced piece 113 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: of meat that Clay would be buying for me at 114 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: a fancy establishment instead of the other way around. Joe 115 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: should not have debated. That was a huge obvious error. 116 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: Now should Kamala debate? I think it's different for her Clay, 117 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: because first of all, she's been calling out Trump for 118 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: not debating her right, so it will look bad to 119 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: there's what's right and there's what perception will be. It's 120 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: clearly absurd for her to call Trump out and then 121 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: walk away from a debate herself. But I also think 122 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: that this is where what's right and perception line up. 123 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: People would say, come on, that's wimpy. You don't get 124 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: to play this game where you call out somebody and 125 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: say I want to debate you and then they say Okay, 126 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: let's do it, and you go, oh, actually, I don't 127 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: so I think she would run a risk there. I 128 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: do know that they're going to do everything possible to 129 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: keep this as stage crafted and managed as tightly as 130 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: they can. You know, they've got David Pluff, who is 131 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: a senior Obama campaign guy now, who's like top advisor 132 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: for the Kamala campaign. Some of the Obama you know, 133 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: top echelon have all jumped in now to get involved 134 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: with Kamala. So they're they're throwing a lot of heavyweight 135 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: behind this. She's raised more money in one month than 136 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: I think any person ever. But it's not really a 137 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: fair comparison because it's like she started a new campaign 138 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: with two months to go. Like, you're gonna have to 139 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: condense all that money. Everyone knows that, right, I mean, 140 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: you're just condensing, you know, isn't it like like Nascar 141 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: is once a week, so Nascar ratings versus Baseball ratings. 142 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: Baseball is like every five seconds, right, So it's yes, 143 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: not fair to compare one to one on the ratings. 144 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: See I just did sports now, Klay's proud, you're concerned. 145 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: Here's why I'm less concerned, or I would even say 146 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not concerned. 147 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: I think Trump's gonna win. Here's why. 148 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: I think Kamala is at her absolute peak right about 149 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: this week into next week. I think this is the 150 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: highest she's ever gonna go. I think there's nowhere to 151 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: go but down and being within the margin of error 152 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: for a Democrat candidate who has the whole machine behind her, 153 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna cut it. That's my Rose scenario, 154 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: but that's what I believe. 155 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 6: I think that they're going to do one debate. I 156 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 6: think that it'll be a fairly standard presidential debate, by 157 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 6: which I mean both sides come out saying our side one. 158 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 6: It's like a boxing match where both guys raise their 159 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 6: hands above the end of the air afterwards, and then 160 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 6: you know, the judges at MSNBC are going to talk 161 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 6: about how amazing Kamala was. The judges at Fox News 162 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 6: are going to talk about how good Trump was. And 163 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 6: it's in that sixty forty realm where it's hard to 164 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 6: really argue that you got to knock out or that 165 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 6: it massively impacts. 166 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 5: The direction of the race one way or the other. 167 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 6: That's my expectation on what a debate between the two 168 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 6: would be like and so, and then I think they 169 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 6: go back to claiming victory putting Kamala on a teleprompter. 170 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 6: My concern, this is my big concern structurally for the race. 171 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 5: Right now. 172 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 6: Trump is due doing media everywhere. He called into Fox 173 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 6: and Friends this morning. I think he took calls from 174 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 6: random people on Fox and Friends asking him questions, which, 175 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 6: by the way, he's asked about doing on this show 176 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 6: before and maybe we'll do. 177 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 5: At some point. 178 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 6: I think that explains and demonstrates his facility and talent 179 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 6: to be on his feet responding to real voter questions. 180 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 6: The problem is, whenever he colors a little bit outside 181 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 6: the line, the media reacts as if it is an 182 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 6: astounding statement that he has made, and we get a 183 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 6: ton of coverage from people saying, oh, look, Trump is 184 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 6: a malignant dictator all over again. Meanwhile, Kamala just reads 185 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 6: off a teleprompter, doesn't say anything. They're not playing the 186 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 6: same style game. And my concern is that the Kamala 187 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 6: hider in the basement campaign that they perfected using COVID 188 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 6: as an ex use in twenty twenty, and that on 189 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 6: some level they used for Fetterman in twenty twenty two 190 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 6: is the road map, and that might be enough to 191 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 6: get her across the finish line. 192 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: Here's here's my. 193 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: What what keeps me from falling down into the pit 194 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: of Clay's despair? 195 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: Over here? 196 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: Okay, here's what I've Here's what I've got in the 197 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: back of my mind. Joe Biden for all of his faults, 198 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: all of his flaws, all his shortcomings, which we discussed 199 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: in detail on this show, for every year and every 200 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: day of his presidency, apart from the sinility issue entirely. 201 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 2: We discussed you know that he's he's really. 202 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: Kind of fake, and he's you know, he's actually not 203 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: a nice guy, and there's all these things he says 204 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: anything and fine. 205 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: He's the he's really the prototypical politician. 206 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: When you think of a politician in a negative context, 207 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's like if you think of an ambulance 208 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: chasing lawyer, you think of like better call Saul, or 209 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: somebody who just will do anything and you know, desperate 210 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: to get that next client and to lie and have 211 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: them wear the brace in court. Biden's like the quintessential 212 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: slimy politician. However, his whole story of being Scranton Joe, 213 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: riding the chu Chuo with his lunch pale, loving the 214 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: union folks, and being one of the union guys that 215 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: resonated enough in some parts of Pennsylvania, some parts of Michigan, 216 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: some parts of Wisconsin that he did better than expected 217 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty with the white working class voters. Okay, 218 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: with those white working class voters. I cannot see a 219 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: world in which those voters, and I bet we have 220 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: some listening to us who maybe went Trump, then Biden 221 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: and now are thinking what am I going to do? 222 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: I do not see Kamala Harris winning them, and therefore 223 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: I do not see how she has a has a 224 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: She obviously has a path, but I do not see 225 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: her winning Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. I do not see it 226 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: happening based on that one demographic. I know, there's women, 227 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: and there's all these other things that there's the minority vote, 228 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: there's all these things we can talk about. I think 229 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: that Kamala is weak on the white working class vote. 230 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: And I think that I mean non college educated another 231 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: way of saying, really the same, that's the demographic, right, 232 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: non college educated white guys with jobs, and a lot 233 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: a lot of them listen right now, Our on are 234 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: part of our audience. I don't think they apart from 235 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: the super solid conservatives. I'm talking about the ones who 236 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: are independence, I don't think that they see Kamala Harris 237 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: and want to cast a vote for And I don't 238 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: think Walls changes this. 239 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: Does that make me feel a little better. 240 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 6: Walls is a bad pick that made me feel better yesterday. 241 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 6: The concern that I have is I don't know that 242 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 6: Kamala is ever going to actually answer questions from anyone, 243 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 6: and as a result, I don't know what the major 244 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 6: potholes are for her. Like I don't think Trump benefited 245 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 6: from doing me an ABJ. I think that that substantially 246 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 6: hurt his campaign. But Kamala didn't do the NABJ, and 247 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 6: she benefited from what Trump's doing that she's unwilling to 248 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 6: do again. They're playing by a different set of rules 249 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 6: and that's my concern, and I'm gonna tell on ninety 250 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 6: days I agree with you absolutely on the NABJ. The 251 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 6: Black Americans who are going to vote for Trump are 252 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 6: already going to vote for Trump. He shouldn't waste his 253 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 6: time chasing more black votes between now and the election 254 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 6: as a concerted effort. There are some great Americans who 255 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 6: are black are going to vote for Trump. 256 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: And that's fantastic and hopefully I'm not saying maybe the 257 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: numbers even bigger than has been the past. I'm just 258 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: saying he's not winning any of that. He's not winning 259 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: any substantial percentage of the black vote between now an 260 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: election day. He's getting the percentage of the black vote 261 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: in ninety days that he was going to get yesterday. 262 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 263 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a worthwhile endeavor for him. 264 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: He should be doing the Trump thing, going after white 265 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: working class voters in the swing states, buying them big max, 266 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: giving them high fives, talking about how he's going to 267 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: be tough on China, talking about how he's going to 268 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: have a booming economy that helps them afford their groceries, 269 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: that helps them pay their rent or their mortgage, and 270 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: helps them maybe save up and buy that business of 271 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: their own that they get to run, whatever it may be. 272 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, that's if I'm Trump. That's Oh, 273 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: and talk about immigration a lot. I mean, I totally 274 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: agree with you on the top three topics. 275 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 5: Top three issues, Crime, over and over again. 276 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: But he should be. 277 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: Going to tell guys who you know, a lot of 278 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: the time make a living with a hard hat on, 279 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: or you know, we got the truckers, welders, plumbers. He 280 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: needs to be telling them in the Swing States, I'm 281 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: your guy, because he is their guy. Walls is a 282 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: phony and we're going to talk more about that here 283 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: in just a second. 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All right, 345 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: I see exactly what's going on here. We're gonna talk 346 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: about it a bit today because obviously it's still very 347 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: much in the news. I think that this is all 348 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: gonna switch back by next week to because the jd 349 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: Vance pick just happened pretty recently, what two weeks ago? 350 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: Now? 351 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: The Tim Wall's pick happened yesterday, so we and it 352 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: was a surprise. So I will say one one quick 353 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: thing before I get into the worst of Walls and 354 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: you and I, you know, you and I I'm not 355 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: sure we see. I think our top three is going 356 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: to be the same. I think the order of our 357 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: top three may be different. So let's see three worst 358 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: things about Wall. That's a good question from our perspectives. Yes, 359 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: So I'll give you my three worst in order, and 360 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 1: then I think, you know, we can we can hear 361 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: from you. Also, we'll have just you know, Miranda Devine 362 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: joining us later on the program from the New York Post. 363 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: She's got great column on this end. And our friend 364 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Sean Parnell in the second hour, because they're playing up 365 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: the veteran angle a lot for Walls. Sean is a 366 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: combat veteran. Sean saw very heavy combat in Afghanistan, wrote 367 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: a memoir, best selling memoir about it called Outlaw Platoon. 368 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: Shawn's as real deal as it gets. We're going to 369 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: talk to him about this because Walls, well, I don't 370 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: want to get ahead of myself, but a lot of 371 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: people in the veteran community are saying. 372 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: Well, hold on a second. 373 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: Yes, he served, but there's a thing that's interesting or 374 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: problematic perhaps about his service. So we'll get into this 375 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: with Sean as well. But first off, I thought this 376 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: was really interesting. I did believe and this is why 377 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: it all happened so fast. And my sources about Democrat 378 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: stuff are obviously at time. I mean, look, I do 379 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: watch Morning Joe, so I feel plugged in Clay, you 380 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 381 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: I mean, Mika and I. 382 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 6: They are probably I'm trying to think of a phrase 383 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 6: I can use that isn't aggressively borderline. They are probably 384 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 6: proved that they have no gag reflex with Tim Walls 385 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 6: as the nominee. I bet that they think that basically 386 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 6: he is Santa Claus come to life for Democrats. I mean, 387 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 6: I have not watched it, yeah, that coverage, but I 388 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 6: watched it all morning. I mean, they're they're glee and 389 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 6: also they're just it's all about how positive he is 390 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 6: and positive for the future, and it's a campaign of 391 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 6: hopefulness and it's and it's so great. And they say 392 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 6: that unlike Trump, who always says how terrible America is, 393 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 6: which is one of the one of the really dishonest 394 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 6: attacks on Trump that Democrats have been lodging for a 395 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 6: long time. No, he says the Democrats make make stupid 396 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 6: decisions and ruin things, particularly major cities. That is true. 397 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: But Trump understands also the greatness of America, which is 398 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: why he is still very much running and I think 399 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: still going to win if he stays focused and disciplined. 400 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: There is an asterisk if he stays focused and disciplined, 401 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: and the whole Republican Party does too. And make sure 402 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: that the Shenanigans either don't happen or are caught red 403 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: handed in a way that can be taken to any 404 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: honest court and given a real hearing on it. So anyway, 405 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: what I wanted to get into, though, Clay, was Josh 406 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: Shapiro not to be confused with Ben Josh Shapiro. Which 407 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: that was a fun headline from the Babylon Bee. It's 408 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: just it's like, how could things get crazier? 409 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 8: Oh? 410 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: Well, if Ben Shapiro was the VP, I know he 411 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't be. It's just kind of funny. Josh Shapiro, Why 412 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: didn't he get it? 413 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: Did you see this? This is from left wing sources? 414 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I read this. 415 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: Kamala didn't want to be overshadowed. I think that Kamala's 416 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: insecurity and vanity may have been the prime mover here, 417 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: the primary decision maker that pushed her away from Shapiro, 418 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: which you and I were both concerned about. As as 419 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: how that would I do think that that would make 420 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania very hard to win. I think that her vanity 421 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: may have made her go with Walls, and this might 422 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: have been the the mistake that shows what else is coming. 423 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 6: That's why to me and I will dive into Walls 424 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 6: because I do think it's important. Most people don't know him, 425 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 6: what does he represent? All of those things, But the 426 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 6: VP pick tells you more about the president and his 427 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 6: thought process and what he sees from a strategic perspective 428 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 6: or she sees than anything else. And so to me, 429 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 6: Kamala not standing up to the left wing of her 430 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 6: party and not being willing to say Josh Shapiro is 431 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 6: the pick. Let me ask you this, buck. If Josh 432 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 6: Shapiro's last name, I saw someone tweet this might have 433 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 6: been at Aary Fleischer. If Josh Shapiro's last name was Walls, 434 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 6: and if Tim Wall's last name was Shapiro and they 435 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 6: were otherwise the exact same biography, is there any doubt 436 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 6: that Kamala picks Shapiro Walls, that is, the Pennsylvania governor 437 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 6: who isn't Jewish. In other words, I think if if 438 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 6: Shapiro is Christian, he is the pick, even if Kamala 439 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 6: is unhappy or uncomfortable with his star appeal, because ultimately 440 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 6: she's still the president. I think the only reason Josh 441 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 6: Shapiro wasn't picked is because he's Jewish and there is 442 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 6: a strong anti Semitic left wing base that would have 443 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 6: refused to come out and support him aggressively. You buy 444 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 6: that if Josh Shapiro were just a Christian guy, make 445 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 6: his last name walls, flip them. Is there any way 446 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 6: that Kamala still makes the same pick. 447 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: I think that's I think your analysis is sound, but 448 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: I can't necessarily get to the definitive conclusion because I 449 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: think the Kamala. 450 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: Factor here is very is very powerful. 451 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: I do buy security playing in here, too, That she 452 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: is an insecure leader, yes, And I think that she 453 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: probably has advises around her telling her that it's all 454 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: gonna come down to her anyway, and that all that 455 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: matters is that she like this VP and have good 456 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: chemistry with him. And I think that's how. I think 457 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: that's how the situation unfolded, because otherwise it's from a 458 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: If you're sitting at a table strategically, this is not 459 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: the smart move, right, If you're just having the nuts 460 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: and bolts of what is most likely, what is the 461 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: most likely action to bring about a win? 462 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 2: I think this is clearly not not the case. But 463 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: I honestly think no. 464 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 5: Let me let me say this too. I'm curious if 465 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 5: you would buy in. 466 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 6: Sometimes you overthink things and you move away from your 467 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 6: natural reaction, and your instincts end up being overridden by 468 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 6: over analysis. Have you seen this happen a bunch where 469 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 6: like on a flash, you look at something and you're like, 470 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 6: this is the pick, and then you look at the 471 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 6: binders and you listen to everybody talk for a long time, 472 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 6: and you end up overthinking an issue. I also think 473 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 6: that might be in play here because Shapiro is such 474 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 6: a no brainer pick that I actually think they over 475 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 6: analyzed and ended up making an illogical pick. 476 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 5: I also think that factors in here, so. 477 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: We can you know, we can return to this if 478 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: you want the next hour or two, because we have 479 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: some we have some sound bites. I want everyone to 480 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: hear as well with this. But if you're looking at 481 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: the worst of walls, the worst of this guy in 482 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: terms of specific issues or moments from his past decisions 483 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: that he has made, I'm going to give you, in 484 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: descending order of in my mind, worseness or worseness, I 485 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: would say number three for me, and I'm persuadable to 486 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: change these. Number three for me is abandoned his abandoning 487 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 1: his battalion as a sergeant major before right before they 488 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: went over to deploy. He's within his rights to do 489 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: it. It wasn't illegal, was it didn't break any rules. But 490 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: that's a tough one. And we're going to talk more 491 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: to Sean Parnell about how he feels as a veteran 492 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: about that, the COVID hotline and just the COVID tyranny 493 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: in general. But the COVID stuff number two, But for 494 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: me number one, Clay, that he was so not just 495 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: impotent but also really ideologically aligned with the BLM riots. Yeah, 496 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: and you talk to people from Minnesota and they say, look, 497 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: I used to spend my I used to go to 498 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: Minnesota in the summers and my dad and my brothers. 499 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: It was one of those places you'd go to is 500 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: in New York or that was so safe. You're like, 501 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: is this even America? You know, there's no crime, everyone's 502 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: nice to everybody. That's changed in the last twenty years, 503 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: really in the last ten years, and Walls has presided 504 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: over this. Yeah, A big part of it is his 505 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: adoption of the kind of racial Marxist attitudes of the 506 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: left and the BLM. So his wife saying that she 507 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: enjoyed smelling the burning tires from the riots. I think 508 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna haunt him. I think that's unforgivable for any 509 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: normal person as people. So you know, do you have 510 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: the same order, and do you think those are the 511 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: three worst? 512 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 2: Number one? 513 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 6: We agree, I have Minneapolis failure because that's the specific 514 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 6: job of the governor. Your job is to make sure 515 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 6: that your communities don't burn down. Your job is to 516 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 6: protect innocent citizens. And he let Minneapolis burn because he 517 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 6: was too much of a coward to get crosswise with BLM. 518 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 6: So Number one beyond the shadow of a doubt, which 519 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 6: is why I find it the most shocking that Kamala 520 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 6: made him the choice, because it reinforces the bail fund 521 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 6: she raised money for, and it reinforces Democrats down for 522 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 6: months all over the country, and letting our nation burn 523 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 6: Minneapolis's biggest failure. 524 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 5: Beyond a shadow of a doubt. 525 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 6: Second COVID to me, when you have a rat out 526 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 6: your neighbor line that you endorse and people are getting 527 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 6: called because they're outside playing basketball or because they have 528 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 6: their neighbors over for a birthday party, and you've got 529 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 6: neighbors ratting on neighbors for living normal lives during COVID. 530 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 6: That is another failure. Again, it goes profoundly to me 531 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 6: to the essence of the job itself. So to me, 532 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 6: Minneapolis and COVID are disqualifying two walls to be able 533 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 6: to get a promotion that would put him a heart 534 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 6: beat away from the presidency. And then the third one. 535 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 6: I want to hear from Sean Parnell more about the 536 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 6: military the decision not to go to Iraq. I obviously 537 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 6: didn't serve. So I don't feel like I am as 538 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 6: sharp on being able to analyze this as you would 539 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 6: be based on your background and when you get shipped 540 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 6: into dangerous places, and Sean would be. So I want 541 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 6: to hear more about that from the people who have 542 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 6: been in that world. 543 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: And everyone who's been in that world knows. I mean, 544 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: there are there are tiers, right, There's did you deploy? 545 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: And then there's and I don't just be in the 546 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: military sense, because by the way, there are a lot 547 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: of contractors who did very dangerous stuff and saw combat. 548 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's not just serving the military that can 549 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: put you in a position of all the way up 550 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: to combat. Right, But there's did you deploy to a 551 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: war zone. If you're in the war zone, did you 552 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: ever get out into the red zone and take that risk? 553 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: And then there's did you ever actually see active combat? 554 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 5: Right? 555 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 1: I mean where you basically ever shot at and returned 556 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: fire or vice versa. And to get to the point 557 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: where you don't even go to a rock when you've 558 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: been training these guys and that's supposed to be your unit. Again, 559 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: We'll bring Sean on because I think that's a perspective 560 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: we need to hear, which is somebody who is a 561 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: combat veteran, so he'll be with us in the next hour. 562 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 6: My third one is the trans embrace. I can't get 563 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 6: over as somebody who has three kids that are all minors, 564 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 6: the idea that you could create a law where you're 565 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 6: trying to potentially take kids away from their parents if 566 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 6: they don't aren't allowed to have minor surgery, putting tampons 567 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 6: in the boys' bathroom like this. 568 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: I think your list may be better than mine. 569 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: I might have to move up number three to four 570 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: and replace that with the trends things. 571 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 6: So that is my top three. The top two are 572 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,239 Speaker 6: definitely disqualifying. The third one is incredibly problematic. 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Appreciate all 604 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 6: of you hanging out with us. We mentioned we're going 605 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 6: to talk with Sean Parnell in the third hour of 606 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 6: the program about the military service of Tim Walls, something 607 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 6: that they are turning into a big part of his 608 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 6: overall electability and why he was the choice that he was. 609 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 6: Mary in Maine, you say your daughter served in the 610 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 6: Middle East with the Minnesota National Guard. 611 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 5: What is your story? We appreciate you calling in Hi. 612 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 8: Can you hear me? 613 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, We've got you. Thank you? 614 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 9: Ok. 615 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 8: Sorry, Well, to back up on this, Nicole grew up 616 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 8: in Maine. We live in Maine, and she had finished 617 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 8: her commitment her seven year commitment with the Army reserves 618 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 8: here in Maine, but because of nine eleven, everyone was 619 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 8: put in what is called a ready reserves, So she 620 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 8: was in the ready reserves. She thought she was done 621 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 8: and could continue on with her life and do whatever, 622 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 8: and received a huge packet in the mail. She was 623 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 8: not home. She had moved to Boston, and she's and 624 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 8: I said, well, you know this was forreficial call. They 625 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 8: want me to sign this for you, and so shy, 626 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 8: I gotta go ahead and open it. Well, what has 627 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 8: happened is that she had been called back in as 628 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 8: a paramedic. Period. She had thirty days to get ready 629 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 8: and to report to San Antonio, Texas to meet up 630 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 8: with the Red Bull Minnesota National Guard, and so she 631 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 8: was deployed. She was there for two months, and then 632 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 8: she was deployed for twenty two months, got blown up twice, 633 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 8: lost seventy five percent of hearing. She never batted an eye. 634 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 8: This is a little girl from Bangor Moon who took 635 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 8: the place of a man who would like to be 636 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 8: the vice president of the United States of America. She 637 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 8: went to Iraq for twenty two months, the longest deployed 638 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 8: unit in the history of the Irian Iraqi conference the longest. Sorry. 639 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 8: I had a big dog and she never she never 640 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 8: batted an I and she wasn't from Minnesota. It wasn't 641 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 8: her state's commitment, but she went. She's gone. 642 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 9: Now I lost her because she didn't come back the 643 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 9: same and had a lot of other issues, but because 644 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 9: of being some of the things for two things. 645 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 8: And I miss her terribly. But you know, if if 646 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 8: she hadn't gone, she would have never ever accepted it 647 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 8: in herself. But I hope he understands that other people 648 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 8: fulfills their commitment. 649 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 6: Thank you for the call. It's a powerful story. We're 650 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 6: sorry for your loss, Buck. I think we're going to 651 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 6: hear this from a lot of people, and you've already 652 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 6: hit on it. The idea that you would leave your 653 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 6: unit and not go be deployed in Iraq is for 654 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 6: many people an indefensible decision that Tim Walls made. 655 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean, when I was in the CIA, Clay, I 656 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: told you this. They said, look, we can't force you 657 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: to go anywhere, but if you're going to work the 658 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: rock desk and you're going to sit across from soldiers 659 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: who have been over there, and you refuse to go 660 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: in the country, How are they going to take you seriously?