WEBVTT - Marcus Toji Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about the charity event. I missed

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<v Speaker 1>the charity event due to looking like I had a

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<v Speaker 1>flesh eating virus. You did, please tell me about it.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it like?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, we raised eighty thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars, oh my gosh for charity.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is great.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of the trapper keepers, Matt's trapper keeper, went

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<v Speaker 4>for nine grand.

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<v Speaker 3>Just because he.

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<v Speaker 5>Included all his notes like on the game, like his

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<v Speaker 5>whole story notes and everything people, so I kind of

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to keep it nine grand.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, yeah, So we had so much fun and

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<v Speaker 4>it was funny because one of the things we talked

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<v Speaker 4>about during the so we all, you know, we're playing

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<v Speaker 4>dagger Heart, which is critical roles like the game they

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<v Speaker 4>invented that they've been working on for years years, their

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<v Speaker 4>role playing game system, and Matt gmmed for us, Matt Mercer,

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<v Speaker 4>and we had so much fun. But one of the

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<v Speaker 4>things you get you're allowed to pick your different like

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<v Speaker 4>the things you have in your pockets, all the equipment

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<v Speaker 4>that you have with you.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things that I think was it Stacey.

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<v Speaker 4>Did Stacy have a Youth in Film Award? Who had

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<v Speaker 4>the youth that was Ashley Johnson. Ashley had a Youth

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<v Speaker 4>in Film Award.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it was that that wasn't her object, that was

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<v Speaker 5>her background experience.

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<v Speaker 6>We were trying to think, like because we were trying

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<v Speaker 6>to think what skills do we have?

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<v Speaker 5>And it was like, well it should be linked to

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<v Speaker 5>something you've done, and your character is done in their life.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you were come from a sailing family, you

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<v Speaker 5>would know how to tie knots and.

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<v Speaker 6>You know that would be your experience.

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<v Speaker 3>So like I picked up my guy.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like good with card tricks and could do

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<v Speaker 5>like poker, and she's just like, I have a Youth

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<v Speaker 5>in Film Award and we're all like, what is that? Well,

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<v Speaker 5>actually that's okay, and we kept playing with it, and

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<v Speaker 5>how did she use it? She used it in the

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<v Speaker 5>game I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Because she remember she turned into the guy. She she

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<v Speaker 4>was actually able to morph into another character. And her

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<v Speaker 4>experience as an actor when she won a Youth and

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<v Speaker 4>Film Award allowed her advantage on her role to today.

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<v Speaker 5>Worked and she got like a critical role so that

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<v Speaker 5>he was like, okay, I guess you just convinced you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you as this fifteen year old girl just convinced the

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<v Speaker 5>security guards that you're the head of the studio.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>And it made me go through my stuff and find awards.

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<v Speaker 2>You were nominated.

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<v Speaker 4>My nomination for my Youth and Film Award, Yes for

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<v Speaker 4>outstanding contribution to the Entertainment industry recognition of acknowledging. My

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<v Speaker 4>nomination is outstanding Hope for a youth magazine, news or

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<v Speaker 4>Game show for totally Kids Sports in nineteen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that. Thank you very much, SOE for philm Freedom.

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<v Speaker 3>So you missed, you missed a fun night.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the funnest times I've had in a long time.

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<v Speaker 5>It was really.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody got into it.

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<v Speaker 5>It was surprising how much joy it brought me. It

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<v Speaker 5>was like I came home and I was like buzzing.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't go to sleep, and I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>play again the next day. And then Christine Laken, who

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<v Speaker 5>had never played before, and Jodie Sweeten, who had never play.

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<v Speaker 3>I started getting texts the next day like can you

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<v Speaker 3>do this again? Yeah, we should get a home we

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<v Speaker 3>have to.

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<v Speaker 6>Now I'm so into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I realized it.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I was trying to explain it to Alex because

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<v Speaker 5>she's never done role playing, and you know, she's always

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<v Speaker 5>kind of been like what D and D.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't quite get this.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I think a lot of actors think

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<v Speaker 5>of it as like kind of a waste of time

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<v Speaker 5>or like a waste of their creative energy, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>because it's like, oh, I'm an actor. I pretend to

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<v Speaker 5>be people all the time. So the idea of like

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<v Speaker 5>doing that for fun, but this it specifically tapped into

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<v Speaker 5>playing on the playground with friends when you're a kid

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<v Speaker 5>and you're like just telling a story together and you're like.

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<v Speaker 6>Now you're a pirate and now we're running over here.

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<v Speaker 5>It brings that feeling back, which is a very specific

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<v Speaker 5>type of play, and I just couldn't get over. I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, I just want to do this again and again.

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<v Speaker 5>It was really fun and really funny.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean there was one like we're the best, the best,

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<v Speaker 5>my favorite moment. At one point, Christine Laken as her

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<v Speaker 5>objects in her backpack or whatever she decided, and she

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<v Speaker 5>hadn't told us this, but in the middle of the game,

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<v Speaker 5>we needed to like sneak across an area and she

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<v Speaker 5>was like, guys, I have ten backwards baseball hats and

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<v Speaker 5>we could, and Jody Sweeten.

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<v Speaker 3>Just goes wouldn't those just be hats lost it and

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<v Speaker 3>we all just lost it for like.

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<v Speaker 5>Two minutes of not of not being able to tre laughing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I were like, yes, you would just have hats

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<v Speaker 3>and you put them on back. No, no, no, there's

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<v Speaker 3>there's no bills. You can't say this.

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<v Speaker 7>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really really fun. And their system, their dagger

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<v Speaker 4>Heart system, it's very fast. You don't for anybody who

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<v Speaker 4>knows D and D. There's a lot more to D

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<v Speaker 4>and D meaning there's like you have to roll for initiative,

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<v Speaker 4>you have to do it, and they kind of cut

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<v Speaker 4>through all that with dagger Heart, so you're just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of playing. It's a great system. It's really fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we had and Matt Mercer is just clearly the best. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>he's the best game master I've ever seen anybody like

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<v Speaker 4>sEH because he's.

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<v Speaker 5>So committed, he's so responsive, he never hesitates, he just goes,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's so giving but also harsh. Like it was

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<v Speaker 5>hard at times. Yeah, I mean we didn't make our Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>Will didn't. I didn't make it his character sacrifice to

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<v Speaker 5>save us. I sacrificed myself or three of us also

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<v Speaker 5>got unconscious and new death at times.

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<v Speaker 4>It was I went out in a blazing glory, Joey

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<v Speaker 4>Squawk Powers went out in a blazing glory and blaze

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<v Speaker 4>of glory.

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<v Speaker 3>He really did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it also sounds like a blaze of gory.

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<v Speaker 8>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was glory glory.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we were battling aliens.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, studio executives.

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<v Speaker 2>I was sad to miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did see one person comment in the live stream

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<v Speaker 1>I think Danielle tore her him string just to avoid.

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<v Speaker 3>This, You're just trying to do first split.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, I'm actually I'm really sad I missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked really fun and it was probably less painful

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<v Speaker 1>than the thing I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, it's going there, Welcome to vad meets World.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Danielle Offishal, I'm right or Strong, and I'm wil Fredell.

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<v Speaker 1>The side quest of looking to talk to everyone who

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<v Speaker 1>appeared on a Boy Meets World episode has been an

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<v Speaker 1>arduous one. It's a difficult task, but we committed to

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<v Speaker 1>it years ago and were sticking to it. So this

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<v Speaker 1>week we are talking to a busy child actor who

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<v Speaker 1>made not one but two stops on our set that

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<v Speaker 1>without this podcast we would have never seen again, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be so bummed because he has quite a story

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<v Speaker 1>to tell. He was the definition of a character actor

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<v Speaker 1>even before he hit his teen years. When people think

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<v Speaker 1>of our industry, it often gets lost that actors can

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<v Speaker 1>make a living and pursue their art without ever needing

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<v Speaker 1>to be a leading man. And today we have an

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<v Speaker 1>example of someone who's been perfecting the drive by for

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty years and he has never had a pause

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<v Speaker 1>on his resume. He's been on TV shows like Family Matters,

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<v Speaker 1>Party of Five, The West Wing, Zoe, One oh One,

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<v Speaker 1>thunder Alley, Patriot, and Workaholics.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it, Yeah, I know right.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's been in movies like Jingle All the Way,

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<v Speaker 1>Karna Corinna, Dear God, and Max Keeble's Big Move. But

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<v Speaker 1>you'll know him best from Little Giants, a Bad News

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<v Speaker 1>Bears inspired Pop Warner football movie from nineteen ninety one

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<v Speaker 1>where he was coached by Rick Moranis and surrounded by

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<v Speaker 1>other adorable young actors spending a few months putting on

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<v Speaker 1>the pads and making a movie together. And we were

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<v Speaker 1>lucky enough to have him in two season four episodes

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<v Speaker 1>Janitor Dad and Quiz Show, and Yes, in.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect Boy, Meets World fashion He played.

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<v Speaker 1>Kid Number one and Einstein Kid two, completely different yet

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<v Speaker 1>unnamed character. Now we are thrilled to welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast to mark off another guest star. It's Marcus Toji.

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<v Speaker 9>Hello, how are you.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm good, Good to see you all.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for being here with us. You

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<v Speaker 1>are a two timer on Boy Meets World. Two episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>two different characters, which Boy Meets World did often with

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<v Speaker 1>actors we loved, but yours is especially rare because you

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<v Speaker 1>did them in the same season. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about that. Where did What is your

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<v Speaker 1>origin story to Hollywood, because by the time you made

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<v Speaker 1>it to us on Boy Meets World, you were already

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<v Speaker 1>a seasoned VET.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. I mean I started acting. I'm born and raised

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<v Speaker 8>in La. I'm sure a lot of people are, but

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<v Speaker 8>I started acting when I was like three, doing like commercials,

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<v Speaker 8>oh wow. And and then you know, just doing you know,

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<v Speaker 8>guest spot co star stuff on lots of kids TV shows.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh And then I mean I think was it the

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<v Speaker 8>the year before, I like, I just recently listened to

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<v Speaker 8>your podcast with Maddie and uh so he did the

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<v Speaker 8>Sandlot And then the year later they started casting for

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<v Speaker 8>Little Giants, which is a football movie, and but that

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<v Speaker 8>was what everyone was. You know, everyone's eyes were on

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<v Speaker 8>the sandlot because it was so good. Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 8>we you know, auditioned for that, got it, and then

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<v Speaker 8>you know that's over, and then you go back to

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<v Speaker 8>the grind, you know, just auditioning, and then and then

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<v Speaker 8>I you know, I get onto Boy Meant's World, which

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<v Speaker 8>was like, I mean, there was season four. You guys

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<v Speaker 8>all knew what you were doing. You were you were

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<v Speaker 8>in the thick of it, and so you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>just coming on and I'm I'm a younger kid that

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<v Speaker 8>that that Sean is is picking on and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean it was. It was. It was a great

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<v Speaker 8>experience because we all knew the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so you started at three? What was it

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<v Speaker 1>about you? I'm assuming your parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was it who said this kid has what it takes? Who?

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<v Speaker 2>And what was it about you they saw?

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<v Speaker 8>So the story is like a little a little fuzzy

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<v Speaker 8>on the details because I just hear it.

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<v Speaker 6>From my mom.

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<v Speaker 8>So my oldest brother. I think it was one of

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<v Speaker 8>those like mall things like some person, yeah pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>And my mom was like a cigar of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Pictures kid, Hey, exactly do you mind if I take

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<v Speaker 2>your picture?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Now, yeah, you can't do that now.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to happen to me at the park, real.

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<v Speaker 8>Crazy your kids and you thing. Yeah so we uh

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<v Speaker 8>so he he didn't do anything. I have two older brothers.

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<v Speaker 8>He he like, I think they took head shots and

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<v Speaker 8>he was like, this is dumb. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 8>do this. And then my middle brother, he actually went

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<v Speaker 8>on some auditions, did some commercials, but my mom always

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<v Speaker 8>had to like drag me along, uh to take him

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<v Speaker 8>to auditions anyways, and I always wanted to go in

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<v Speaker 8>the room because for commercials, like they take all the

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<v Speaker 8>kids in the room and they always come out.

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<v Speaker 2>Laughing yeah you know, oh yeah, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, depending on how depends on there, how how

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<v Speaker 8>much pressure your parents put on it and uh. And

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<v Speaker 8>so eventually they're like, yeah, bring him, you know, bring

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<v Speaker 8>him in. And then I had a great time, and

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<v Speaker 8>and then they were like okay, you know, my mom's

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<v Speaker 8>like sure, let's let's sign them up. And my agent,

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<v Speaker 8>you know that agent, uh, sign me up. And and

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<v Speaker 8>then I've been doing it ever since.

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<v Speaker 3>So you don't ever remember not acting exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean did you ever take classes or like

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<v Speaker 5>get into acting as a craft or did it just

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<v Speaker 5>keep coming naturally?

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<v Speaker 8>No? No, I uh, I mean, you know, like being

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<v Speaker 8>a kid actor. I mean I feel like everyone you

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<v Speaker 8>all experience this is that your skill, your your like

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<v Speaker 8>natural talent as a kid only takes you to a

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<v Speaker 8>certain point. Yeah, exactly, and then you have to like go, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>I can't be the precocious, you know, six year old anymore.

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<v Speaker 8>I need to be a little I need to deliver

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<v Speaker 8>the line a little bit better. Or now it's I

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<v Speaker 8>can't just do one line, I've got to do five

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<v Speaker 8>lines and then wait, you know, and then do the

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<v Speaker 8>next one. So yeah, so like constantly kind of taking

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<v Speaker 8>class throughout my life. And then I think it was

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<v Speaker 8>in like you take little classes here that you're as

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<v Speaker 8>a kid there you can't be in like.

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<v Speaker 3>A four hour you know, uh workshop script works.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>So uh yeah, so I took classes. I mean I

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<v Speaker 8>like school, like even just like elementary school or like

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<v Speaker 8>middle school, high school. I got more. That was the

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<v Speaker 8>time for me, whereas like, well do I want to

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<v Speaker 8>keep doing this or do I not? Because that's the

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<v Speaker 8>perfect time to go I'm out, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 8>keep doing it, so I got more into you know,

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<v Speaker 8>like theater in high school and then and then from

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<v Speaker 8>there I took classes like the well known classes in

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<v Speaker 8>LA and you know, I learned a lot from them.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm actually like, I should probably go back because because

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<v Speaker 8>acting changes, like you know, just like what's funny right now,

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<v Speaker 8>in five years is gonna be like well, you kind

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<v Speaker 8>of have to follow the trends of what's on TV

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<v Speaker 8>or you know, or film. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, growing up in Los Angeles at your school, were

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<v Speaker 4>you the only actor because we're we're you know, we're

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<v Speaker 4>not from around here where it's like born and raised

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<v Speaker 4>in Los Angeles. So did you have other child actors

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<v Speaker 4>that you were actually going to school with. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>your school must have been kind of used to the

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<v Speaker 4>idea of, oh, they have to leave for auditions.

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<v Speaker 8>I think no one's like used to it, like like

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<v Speaker 8>like you know, teachers and stuff. But in California, like

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<v Speaker 8>Los Angeles, it is a legit reason to leave school.

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<v Speaker 8>Like it's the same as like sick or breathement. And

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<v Speaker 8>so there was always like, oh, he's gonna be just

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<v Speaker 8>gone for a week for like for something Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 8>see elementary school. I mean, I'm sure there were people

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<v Speaker 8>that were, like there might have been kids who were actors,

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<v Speaker 8>like as like a hobby like where they did it

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<v Speaker 8>for maybe like a year and then quit. And then

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<v Speaker 8>like middle school, I don't think anyone. Uh, but at

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<v Speaker 8>that point, like I had done a few things. I'd argued.

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<v Speaker 8>By the time I was in middle school, I already

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<v Speaker 8>done Boy Meets World and I had done some other things,

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<v Speaker 8>so people kind of like recognize me, so they're like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>he's that he's that kid. But then that was the

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<v Speaker 8>first place I had like any kind of like theater stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>So like the teacher she was also my English teacher,

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<v Speaker 8>but she was also also the drama teacher, and uh,

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<v Speaker 8>I think she kind of was like seriously, like you're

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<v Speaker 8>going on, like you get to work right by uh.

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<v Speaker 8>And then high school, I think there was quite a

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<v Speaker 8>few people who was like parents were like producers, right,

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<v Speaker 8>and so none of the kids haired like I had

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<v Speaker 8>friends that did homeschool because they would get like bullied

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<v Speaker 8>in in their school, like, oh, kids would just give

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<v Speaker 8>them a hard time and stuff. And I mean I

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<v Speaker 8>was very lucky that it didn't happen because I wasn't special.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, it wasn't like, oh he thinks he's hot,

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<v Speaker 8>but you know, it was like, yeah, well my dad,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, produced blah blah blah. Or I think I

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<v Speaker 8>think a girl I knew his father directed a Break

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<v Speaker 8>into Electric Boogaloo.

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<v Speaker 3>So great movie.

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<v Speaker 4>God, that's when they danced to save the Youth Center.

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<v Speaker 4>So great movie. Great movie.

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<v Speaker 1>One of your first jobs was a guest spot on

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<v Speaker 1>a show called Drexel's Class Right. It was starring a

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<v Speaker 1>big name that Will worked with too.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad Coleman. Yes, what do you remember from that job?

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<v Speaker 8>So that one. I think that was one of my

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<v Speaker 8>first jobs where I was there like the whole week.

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, I was like looking at it, I

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<v Speaker 8>was like, I didn't need to be there the whole week.

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<v Speaker 8>It's the Dabney Coleman is like he's a teacher at

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<v Speaker 8>this like inner city school, and for some reason he

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<v Speaker 8>has to go around being Santa Claus at like malls,

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<v Speaker 8>and so I'm like a kid that you know, like

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<v Speaker 8>comes to the mall like we take a picture, and

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<v Speaker 8>I'm like asking for all these things and he's like, yeah, yeah, whatever,

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<v Speaker 8>just write it down and you know, and then he

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<v Speaker 8>moves on to the to the next kid. But I

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<v Speaker 8>remember it was it was kind of amazing. It was

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<v Speaker 8>that like it was the to be on a multiicam set,

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<v Speaker 8>like you know, you guys, you guys lived it. But

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<v Speaker 8>it's like it's very strange for everybody else to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>that's the school, and right on the other side of

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<v Speaker 8>this wall it's his apartment, you know, and right on

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<v Speaker 8>the other side of that wall is a restaurant, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and and so it is kind of you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>mind boggling to be like I'm gonna walk through one

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<v Speaker 8>door and just end up in a completely different space.

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<v Speaker 8>And then I think one kid had like he it

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<v Speaker 8>was it wasn't a musical, but like he does a

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<v Speaker 8>rap in the middle of this thing. So just watching

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<v Speaker 8>a kid who's not much older than me do something

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<v Speaker 8>like that in front of all these people was was

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<v Speaker 8>pretty cool. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that was pretty inspiring. You were like, look

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<v Speaker 2>what he can do.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in nineteen ninety four you end up in

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<v Speaker 1>two huge movies. First is Karina Krina with Whoopi Goldberg

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<v Speaker 1>and Rayleiota. That is a big first movie were you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nervous to try something outside of TV.

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<v Speaker 8>Not nervous to get out of TV. It's like it

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<v Speaker 8>was an audition like any other. Yeah, you know, you

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<v Speaker 8>go into a office and you know this person, They're like, hi, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 8>It was it was a one liner, you know, and

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<v Speaker 8>and uh, it was supposed to be like my mom. Oh,

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<v Speaker 8>the woman who plays my mom is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 8>interviewing for the job that will be Goldberg gets okay,

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<v Speaker 8>and so but she's like I think she yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 8>she is Japanese because in the sixties, like there's plenty

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<v Speaker 8>of like Japanese school, but she only spoke Japanese and

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<v Speaker 8>so she's so Rayleiota is like interviewing her, and she's

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<v Speaker 8>I'm the translator and uh uh as as I as

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<v Speaker 8>I learned a lot of kids were for their you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 8>non English speaking parents.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh uh.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, she says like, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 8>do windows, and so I'm like, and no windows, and

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<v Speaker 8>I had to do like an accent and I do

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<v Speaker 8>not speak Japanese. Uh, and I don't have an accent,

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<v Speaker 8>and so it was kind of like, oh, okay, and

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<v Speaker 8>like it didn't have to be good, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 8>like one of those things like his kids like didn't

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<v Speaker 8>have to be good, just had to be good enough.

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<v Speaker 8>But I did get to meet Rayleiota and he was

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<v Speaker 8>very nice, you know, like it's I guess might be

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<v Speaker 8>you would think that big celebrities like don't have time

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<v Speaker 8>for kids, but but in my experience, they were just

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<v Speaker 8>very nice. They're just cordial. They they they realize like

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<v Speaker 8>you aren't unless they learn very quickly that you're a

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<v Speaker 8>piece of boot where they're gonna be nice to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 4>I think big actors actually take more time to be

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<v Speaker 4>nice to kids sometimes than other big actors like the

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they're they're nice to the kids, and the

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<v Speaker 4>adults on the side did.

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<v Speaker 3>Not always have really yeah, I never had a bad

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<v Speaker 3>I never had a problem with the adults.

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<v Speaker 5>I've talked about my Bert Reynolds time, and I hear

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<v Speaker 5>Burt Reynolds had a problem with basically everyone in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>It starts exactly yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, coincidentally, we have talked to a lot of Asian

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<v Speaker 1>actors from the eighties and nineties on this podcast. Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>park Ernie, ray Is Junior Keon Young and everyone has

0:19:53.840 --> 0:20:00.240
<v Speaker 1>such unique journeys with such little representation back during that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Who did you look up to on TV or in movies?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, let's see coming up. I mean Ernie

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<v Speaker 8>Race Junior. I'm like, I'm glad you mentioned him because

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<v Speaker 8>like he was teenage. He was Keynoteles and that was

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<v Speaker 8>one of those things like I didn't do martial arts,

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<v Speaker 8>but just seeing him, you're just like, oh cool, like

0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.720
<v Speaker 8>it was. It was funny just growing up in that

0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.520
<v Speaker 8>time for us, it was like you saw one kid,

0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:29.680
<v Speaker 8>one Asian kid, You're like, oh, hey, it's an Asian

0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:31.560
<v Speaker 8>kid or your my mom would be like, oh there's

0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:37.400
<v Speaker 8>an Asian guy, right, and like uh l A newscasters

0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.679
<v Speaker 8>that were like celebrities. You know. It was like it

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<v Speaker 8>was like Rob Fuguzaki or or was it Susan here Asuna.

0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:50.800
<v Speaker 8>You know those are the names. You're just like, oh wow,

0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:55.119
<v Speaker 8>they they're on They're they're on TV. I mean I

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<v Speaker 8>knew some of them, you know, like it all. Although

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<v Speaker 8>he probably doesn't. He doesn't get a lot of uh

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<v Speaker 8>good press because of what he did, but it was

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<v Speaker 8>Getty Watanabe was in he was long duck Dong.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in sixteen Candles.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, you know, great guy. He played my dad uh

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<v Speaker 8>in like a PBS thing and you know, great guy

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<v Speaker 8>and you know you I look and it's even to judge,

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<v Speaker 8>but you're like, he wanted to be an actor.

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<v Speaker 7>That was the part that came along, and he was

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<v Speaker 7>in the whole movie. Yeah, you know Volunteers too. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know if you ever saw Tom him in Volunteers

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<v Speaker 7>with Tom Hanks. Oh, no, great movie, Tom Hanks, John

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<v Speaker 7>Candy Getty, wata nab amazing well and then.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, and then you know that that wasn't that was

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<v Speaker 8>like his first big one. But like, yeah, he said

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<v Speaker 8>Volunteers and then he did that. Uh oh it was

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<v Speaker 8>Michael Keaton and it was the Japanese Gun. He's great

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<v Speaker 8>in that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh and then uhf with weird Al Yankovic. Like Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>here's what I can name all.

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<v Speaker 4>The movies, and and most of them are that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Most of them have hit that icon status. So yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>problematic when you look back at them, some of them

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<v Speaker 4>through the lens of now.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, he's an actor who's getting an audition and

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<v Speaker 4>you go in and you you do your best to nail.

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<v Speaker 3>That role, and he did. He nailed every role he played.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, you have to look at it like that,

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<v Speaker 4>like an actor where you just go in and you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the material I'm given and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>take the material off the page and make it even better.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was great at.

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<v Speaker 8>That, and you know it's he the fact that you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the past allows me to be who I like want

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<v Speaker 8>to authentically be. And so like I've turned down an

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<v Speaker 8>audition here there because I'm like, I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 8>this is right. Don't first I don't think it's good.

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 8>And if it was good and not right, then you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>then that it it. You can make it something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>this is like bad and it's not right. What's even

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<v Speaker 8>the point?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>And there was some there was some movie that I

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<v Speaker 8>had an audition for that I turned down the audition, Uh,

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 8>and then I saw the movie. They just cut the

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<v Speaker 8>whole part out. And I wouldn't be surprised if it

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 8>was they either A had enough actors that said I'm

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:17.879
<v Speaker 8>gonna pass, and then maybe it's like, well why are

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:20.879
<v Speaker 8>all these actors passing all this part? But probably because

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 8>it's not you know good.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, interesting.

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 8>But then who else, well, Dante Bosco, Yeah who uh?

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:35.160
<v Speaker 8>He and my my older brother, they were about they're

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:37.600
<v Speaker 8>about the same agent, so they would audition against each other.

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 8>Dante would always get the part. Yeah exactly. Uh. But

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:49.679
<v Speaker 8>I ran into him. I think it was auditioning for

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 8>the Jake Long like Dragon Hunter. It was an animated show,

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 8>and so I interviewed. I said probably Dante like I'm

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 8>I'm Kirk's younger brother, and he goes, oh, yeah. So

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:05.200
<v Speaker 8>we talked a little bit and then maybe like at

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.199
<v Speaker 8>Comic Con years ago, he's just walking the floor like

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 8>no one saw him, and they walked and was like, hey, Dante,

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 8>good to see you. I'm cursals. He's like, yeah, I.

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 3>Know, it's good to see you.

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 8>Like my brother's friend knows who I am.

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<v Speaker 3>That was one of those movies, Rufio, that was one

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 3>of those movies.

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 4>There was not a kid actor who did not see

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:32.119
<v Speaker 4>that movie and just was like salivating, Yeah, one of

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:32.919
<v Speaker 4>the Lost Boys.

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 8>I was, And I think I was just just too

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 8>young to audition for it, like just like just a

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 8>little bit, you know, like and they had they had

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 8>the Little Last Boy and I think it was like, no, no,

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 8>we got a we gotta everyone's older.

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh man.

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Was your family always super supportive of you following this path?

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Were they just thrilled that you were successful from such

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:55.159
<v Speaker 2>a young age.

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<v Speaker 8>I yes, you know, I think it's one of those

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 8>like getting work helps, you know, helps them feel a way.

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 8>Neither of them are my my my mom is not

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:09.679
<v Speaker 8>in the industry and my dad wasn't in the industry

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 8>at all, and so, you know, I think they obviously

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:17.959
<v Speaker 8>they were like cautious, you know, starting, but I think, uh,

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 8>you know, they they might. They would take me to

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:23.160
<v Speaker 8>the auditions, they would be on set, you know, as

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 8>they're required to. And I think by seeing me work,

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 8>and you know, I think earning money, you know, helped,

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 8>And so they were like, well, we don't you know,

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 8>they're dealing with three kids. They're like, well, the third

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 8>one doesn't need to pay for college, you know, like

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 8>we don't have to pay for him, so let's just

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 8>let's let him keep doing it as long as he

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:48.880
<v Speaker 8>wants to. And I think that was always I think

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 8>what made them feel better was that they were like

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 8>school requirements, like you had to get good enough grades

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:56.959
<v Speaker 8>and I was in public school, so you know, like

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 8>they were like the teachers weren't going to go easy

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:04.359
<v Speaker 8>on you know, mor so there they were gonna So

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 8>they were like, Okay, he has to get good enough

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.400
<v Speaker 8>grades to keep his work permit. If he doesn't do well,

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 8>then he can't audition. And so I had this like

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 8>I had this bar I had to meet, and so, yeah,

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 8>they were always supportive, and but there was always the

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 8>idea that look, if this isn't what you want to do,

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 8>you just get out, you know, if you find something

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 8>else interesting, quit because this is not something you do

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 8>because oh man, the money and the fame.

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 4>You know. Yes, I'm constantly amazed at the number of

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 4>people that not only are the youngest in their families

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 4>that become actors because I'm the same. I'm the youngest

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 4>of three boys and I'm the same. And it was

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 4>that same kind of thing where it's like the youngest.

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 4>I think for some reason, I don't know if we

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 4>we feel the need to perform more to be noticed

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 4>in our family or whatever it is, but it's amazing.

0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 8>Well, I've heard two things. One that the young guest,

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 8>you know, because they have the two older siblings and

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 8>the parents. They're better at like reading people. So it's

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 8>like whether they're you know, making jokes to keep the

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.959
<v Speaker 8>peace or just like, oh I better, you know, my

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 8>brother's got to had a bad day. Either stay at

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:17.199
<v Speaker 8>us away or poke the bear, you know, like you

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 8>can do one or the other. I heard this other

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 8>I don't know if it's true, but I heard that

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 8>all of all the NASA astronauts they've all been first

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 8>or only children.

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh's like, fuse to me.

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 8>I want to achieve this amazing well you act well.

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I want to get into the movie.

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Most of our listeners will recognize you from Little Giants,

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>an absolute classic.

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember the audition?

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 8>So it was with Janet Herschinson, who did I think

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 8>quite a few of the Spielberg movies at that time

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:15.239
<v Speaker 8>legend and uh so she I don't remember the like

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 8>audition and callback. I do remember the the like big call. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 8>I mean it was It wasn't even a screen test.

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 8>It was like they got all the kids they liked

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 8>from across the country because it was a it was

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 8>a nationwide search for the kids. And we went to

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 8>Amblin at Universal Studios and first they they like walk

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 8>us through the office and then you see, I mean,

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 8>they didn't set it up for us, but he's not

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 8>poster for Schindler's List winning all these Academy Awards list.

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 8>And then they they put us in the theater to wait,

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 8>and they're just playing hook just kind of on on

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 8>because they're like, it's gonna be a while. And then they,

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 8>you know, they they take us like you know, row

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 8>by row out and we wait along this this like wall,

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 8>and at the end of the line is Steven Spielberg

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 8>with I think one of the other executive producers. But

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 8>now all the kids are just waiting, and so me

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 8>and the kid who played Zoltec Michael's winer, we're just

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 8>screwing around because we're just bored, you know, waiting on line.

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 8>We know who Steven Spielberg is, it's not it's not like,

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 8>you know, who's this old guy we have to talk to.

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 8>We know who he is, but we're still kids, and

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 8>so I think we were doing like the crane kick

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 8>from Karate Kid then and and then we eventually gets

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 8>to me and Michael, and Stephen goes, what were you

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 8>guys doing over there? You know, what were you guys doing?

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 8>And we just tell you know, like, oh, we were

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 8>just messing around. We're doing the crane kick from Karate Kid.

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 8>And he goes, oh, huh right, And I think you

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 8>know that he said that they said this about other

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 8>kids movies. They just wanted to see kids being kids.

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 8>Ye and if they you know, if it's like everyone's

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 8>like polite and sitting there and being comm it's like cool.

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 8>And then when they get there they like turn it on,

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 8>you know. And I think they just wanted to see

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 8>kids who were just gonna mess around. And maybe, you know,

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 8>the script was not done. The script went through so

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 8>many revisions. I think maybe they also were like, well,

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 8>maybe the kids will inspire us to you know, a

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 8>little bit we can can put in there and then

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 8>get the part actually I just get. I just get

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 8>that I have been cast. And then we go to

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 8>football camp.

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Were you athletic?

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 8>No? So I think that they made a mistake is

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 8>that they put us in football camp so that we

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 8>learned like how to line up and how to play football.

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 8>But I think they forgot that we're supposed to be

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 8>bad at football, and so they trained us and so

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 8>and so I think they like the said when we

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 8>first started filming the too organized. They look like they

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 8>know what they're they're doing. They can't. They're supposed to

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 8>be a bad team, and so they had to kind

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 8>of like just be like, guys, forget whether what we

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 8>taught you. Yeah, yeah, uh yeah, And I think so

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 8>that yeah, I didn't know what part I got. And

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 8>then we're just we're we're at the football camp and

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 8>every day, you know, we do we do school and

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 8>then we do football camp, and then we read through

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 8>the latest revision of the script and they're giving us

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 8>each part like one day I'm Zoltech and one day

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 8>I'm Timmy, and then you know, they just know they

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 8>like these kids. And then at some point it all

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 8>kind of settles in to like, okay, here's here are

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 8>the people who are going to be what I mean.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 8>They they knew that Seana was going to be ice

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 8>Box and uh, Devin Sawah wasn't originally casts as junior,

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 8>but he came Uh, he came in after football camp,

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 8>so we didn't do football camp with him at all.

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 8>We just had heard the original kid. I don't know

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 8>the story behind it. I was on the younger side. Joshana,

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 8>she knows everything. But they so he wasn't there, and

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 8>then Devin came in like after we started filming, so

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 8>we had no idea who he was.

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, she got grown in a little after the Factor.

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but it's so smart, Like the way that Spielberg

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 5>casts is because I mean his movies always have the

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 5>best kid actors, you know, Yeah, if he's involved with

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 5>the project, yep. And it's like it's such a skill

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 5>because there are so many great directors who cannot cast

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 5>good kid actors, Like they might be able to cast

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 5>great adults, but they don't do that thing where they're like,

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 5>just be a kid, Like it's okay, I just want

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 5>to watch you be you.

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 6>And it's so cool to hear that he did that.

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, was shooting this movie like being a part of

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 1>an amazing summer camp. I mean there are tons of

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>kids your age. You're hanging out with Rick Moranis and

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Ed O'Neill. I'm sure you've talked about this experience ad nauseum,

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 1>but we want to hear it all.

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 8>No, It amazing summer camp is kind of the exact

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 8>explanation for that, you know, like it was I mean

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 8>it was oversummer. Yeah, and uh, but you're all doing

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 8>you're all part of this like shared experience. And you know,

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 8>the the first part of the film in the town

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 8>we filmed in San Luis Obispo in taco A Royal Grande,

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 8>and uh, so we're we're all out of towners, you know,

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 8>stay in a hotel. Some some kids, you know, like

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 8>they're I think somewhere like from Ohio and you know

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.959
<v Speaker 8>other other places. Actually they might have been from Ohio

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 8>and they're pretending to be in Ohio, but they're in California, yeah,

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 8>and and like North Carolina. And so we're all we're

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 8>all out of towners now. And so we're all sharing

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 8>this hotel. So we're going to the pool and they're

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 8>the productions taking us on field trips and uh and

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 8>then we know the rest of the time we're filming

0:33:55.840 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 8>and uh and uh, you know it, it's long days.

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 8>And the director great guy. I think this might have

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 8>been his second film. The first one he did was

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 8>Homeward Bound Dwayne Dunham, and he wanted to do lots

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 8>of cover. He was originally an editor for Star Wars.

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 8>He wanted lots of coverage, oh, lots of takes, lots

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 8>of setups and it was just it was. It was dragging.

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 8>And it's funny because I was listening to you guys

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:30.720
<v Speaker 8>talked to Maddie about Maddie. Someone was mouthing the lines,

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 8>and we would do so many takes that if there

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 8>was the shot of the actor, you would see all

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 8>the kids back there, all of us the line, and

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 8>like every day they would have to come just some

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 8>and be like, guys, stop, just keep your mouth shut.

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 8>You're all saying the words.

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 4>So if you're shooting during the summer, like the prep,

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 4>I can see you had to do school, but by

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 4>the time you were shooting, you didn't have to do

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 4>school during the summer, right, Yeah, during the summer.

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so it was like it overlapped with the end

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 8>of school and the and it went long, so it

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 8>went over the beginning of the next school year. So like, yeah,

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 8>at both ends, yeah, both ends we had to do

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 8>some school. But yeah, in the middle, you know, it

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 8>was a school less And then sometimes you're just like

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 8>I think they would always take us two set, whether

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 8>we're working or not, just to kind of like you know,

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 8>otherwise you're just staying in your hotel room, right, and

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 8>then you know the kids are just gonna go crazy.

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 8>So yeah, they would always you know, like bring the set,

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 8>you guys, go you can go hang out in the

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 8>big trailer, the school room trailer and just hang out.

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 8>But they always kind of had something going on.

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 3>That's great.

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what did you do in your downtime? Did you guys?

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Did all of you kids still hang out together and

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 1>go eat?

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Like what did you get to do in the downtime?

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 8>You know, it's like the downtime I don't remember. I

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 8>remember the date, I remember the working and I remember

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 8>being on set, and it was it was the routine,

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 8>I think, you know, that's what it was like. You

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 8>get the set, you put on your like you had

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 8>like two outfits in the whole movie. There's like the

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:05.760
<v Speaker 8>game at the end, so you got the football pads

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 8>or the the practicing in which case you have football

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 8>pads on, right, So it was like that was the day.

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 8>So you get you'd get to set, you'd get in

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 8>the van, you'd get to set. You know, you'd go

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 8>to your trailer. They're like, okay, get dressed. You'd get

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.439
<v Speaker 8>your outfit on and then you know, you joke around

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 8>with the kids and then you'd sit in the school

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 8>room and wait and then you know, I think the

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.760
<v Speaker 8>parents would all hang out. Yeah, parent all hang out

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 8>and talk and chat and have a great time with

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 8>the kids. You know, we had a great time too,

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 8>But but we did, like I said, we went on

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 8>field trips. So okay, now the memories are flooding in.

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 8>We went to Hurst Castle and took a tour up there,

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 8>so the whole all the kids went up there. Yeah,

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 8>we took a tour of Hurst Castle and then the

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 8>nearby was one of the It was like a go

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 8>kart video game, mini.

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 4>Golf like golf and stuff like golf and stuff. Kid,

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:00.879
<v Speaker 4>thank you very much.

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 8>We'd go there. We'd go there a lot until I

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 8>guess we got kicked out and then got kicked out.

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 6>The kids are too.

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 8>I had heard was that I think some some crew

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 8>member might have done something like like like on the

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 8>go karts or something. But I'm worried it was us.

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 8>Me specifically, me and my late great friend J. P. Stowyer.

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 8>We were I was too short to drive it, so

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.359
<v Speaker 8>I was in the car with him he could drive it,

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 8>and his hat flew off and we both turned We're like, oh,

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 8>your hat went away, and then he crashed into like

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 8>a Bush like went up onto the like embankment where

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 8>everyone was fine, but we're like, oh no, And then

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:52.800
<v Speaker 8>it wasn't that long after that then we weren't stuff.

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh my god, that's hysterical.

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, and then you had been on a lot of

0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>TV shows by the time you got to us. You

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>had been on Our Neighbors, on the Disney Lot, thunder Alley,

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 1>Family Matters, Er, and then you stepped foot on our

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>set first as kid Number one in season four's Janitor Dad.

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Had you watched Boy Meets World at all when you

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 2>before you got cast?

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 8>Yes, I mean because you guys were on the TGIF

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 8>block or yeah, yeah, so I did watch it. I

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 8>I am. I think I'm like anti kid sports because

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 8>because we always had practice on Friday nights and I

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 8>would have to, like, I would have to VHS record,

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 8>but you know, Boy Meets World and Family Matters really,

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 8>you know, and then I had to like and then

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.240
<v Speaker 8>I get home and I can finally watch it unless

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 8>my brother like stopped it because he wanted to watch

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 8>something else and you know, be a whole blow up man.

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 2>There were some we had such struggles in the nineties.

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:56.280
<v Speaker 1>If you weren't home to watch something live, the effort

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you had to put into it, and the amount of

0:38:58.000 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>things that could go wrong.

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Somebody take this over your VHS.

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 4>That channel, but you're halfway through, like you've recorded something

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 4>and you're halfway through, and then it switches to something

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 4>else or just fuzzes out and you're like what John, Yeah, and.

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Then there's no way to see it again, like it's gone.

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 3>It's gone forever, It's gone forever. Yeah. Yeah.

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 8>Couldn't they just have aired like, hey, here's a repeat

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:22.919
<v Speaker 8>on Saturdays.

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they did, But I even feel like it was

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 1>hard to know when the re There wasn't a way

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>to know when when.

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Yep, TV guide there you were.

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and then later that scrolling channel, Yes, that was helpful. Yeah,

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 8>and then you'd be like, I missed it. I gotta

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 8>wait ten minutes.

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 2>So you watched Boy Meets World before you audition? Do

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you remember your Boy Meets World audition?

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 9>I you know, you you you know what I was

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 9>doing so many auditions that I think as superpower is

0:39:57.960 --> 0:39:59.760
<v Speaker 9>like being able to just let it go.

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 8>You know, and you go on enough like you know,

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 8>co star parts and guest spots that you never get

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 8>and you know, like I just kind of like, all right, yeah,

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 8>I'll just you gotta let it go and if you

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 8>dwell on it, you know, and then your mom and

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 8>then like the debrief after the audition, your mom's like,

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.399
<v Speaker 8>what did you do? What? You know? I remember, Yeah,

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 8>how did it go?

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 2>What did they say? What did you say?

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 8>What did they say? And ask any question? Did they

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 8>ask any questions? Did you ask any questions? And I'm like, what, No,

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 8>what am I supposed to ask questions? I had no

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 8>questions with a question? Yeah, alert, I have to remember

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 8>my lines and a question and so yeah, So I

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 8>don't remember it. I remember being I remember remember being

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 8>on set. I remember being in the green room because

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 8>I I I I rewatched it, and I vividly remember

0:40:56.120 --> 0:41:01.800
<v Speaker 8>watching the scene in the trailer where Sean and Corey

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 8>and the parents are all there and they're arguing, and

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 8>I just remember cracking up so much in the green room,

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 8>and I remember the audience loving it and I and

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 8>I remember the cast laughing. I think that was one

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 8>of those like first times that I remember it being electric,

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 8>where like everyone was on and you can't stop enjoying it,

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 8>you know that that was one of those gifts where

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 8>it's like, oh, this is this is live television. You know,

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 8>this is what it's like, Oh this is this is

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 8>the theater, you know, where your audience was right there

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 8>and they let you know whether they like it or not.

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 8>And then was it. I do remember. I think it

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 8>was like later being like oh yeah, Sean, like in TV,

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 8>in television, Shawn's the first time I remember someone like,

0:41:55.600 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 8>oh they are of a different economic status. You know,

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 8>he's he he's got his problems and he's got his

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 8>family issues. That doesn't make him, but he's he's the core.

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 8>He's not just the one episode the very special of

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 8>some show. You know. He was like, oh no that

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 8>he his family is not the same as Corey's family, right, Yeah.

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.879
<v Speaker 5>That was a pretty big episode for that actually, Janitor Dad,

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:27.320
<v Speaker 5>that was the one where I think it was Chet's

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 5>only chests second or third episode.

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 6>Oh no, I guess season four would have been.

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he'd have been there on the show. But yeah,

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:35.280
<v Speaker 3>somebody would.

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Show adults that were in a different economic status, but

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 4>never kids.

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 3>You're right.

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 4>I was just trying to think and it doesn't if anything,

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:46.879
<v Speaker 4>it was they would do this the savior model, where

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 4>if the kid was poor, then somebody rich would come

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 4>in and you know, different strokes or something. But the

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 4>idea that he was a poor kid. You're right, Sean

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 4>might have been one of the first for a while

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 4>that was ever ever really seen him. Trevor really put

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 4>that together.

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:04.399
<v Speaker 8>Like, yeah, the lesson for the main kid for Beaver, like, hey,

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 8>don't don't make fun of your friend who doesn't have

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 8>the same thing, right, and then we never see that

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 8>friend ever.

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:10.240
<v Speaker 3>Again, right exactly.

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, so much of kids TV was just entirely

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>centered around wish fulfillment. How do we how do we

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 1>just make kids want to watch this because they want

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to envision what it would be like.

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 2>To have this life?

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:25.239
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, for Sean, yeah, for Sean to be

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a star of the show and for us to see

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:31.320
<v Speaker 1>regularly how his life differed.

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, was really Yeah, I mean it is. I think

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 2>he was one of the first.

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>It's really special, and you know, we have felt that

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>impact when people come to life.

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 5>People come up to me and Oftener like I was

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 5>the Shawn in my group and they start crying immediately.

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's like it's very much a like I

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.280
<v Speaker 5>needed you on TV to understand that there was space

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 5>for people like, you know, my family or me.

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 6>It's really touching.

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And then well, just a handful of episodes later, you return.

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Now is I'm Stein Kid competing against us in the

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>quiz show episode which had a lot going on with.

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Blon craz episode.

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 2>We would love.

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 1>To hear your memories from this week since, to be honest,

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>we did not have a ton of memories.

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 8>So I every time I think about it, like I

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 8>was looking, I was looking for the episodes and I

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 8>was like, okay, yeah, see I think I I briefly

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:28.320
<v Speaker 8>watched my episode on season four of the first episode,

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 8>and I was like okay, and then I must be

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 8>on like the next season or something, because I know,

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 8>I yeah, I felt like a different kid, like I

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 8>was like no one I was obviously I was smaller,

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 8>you know, I was smaller, I was littler. And then

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 8>I was like yeah, and then when I'm Einstein Kid,

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 8>I'm still a kid, but I have to be like older.

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 8>And then I look at it was like it's the

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:53.400
<v Speaker 8>same season.

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just a few episodes later, right, So my.

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 8>In my internally, I'm like, oh okay, I uh I

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 8>got bullied so bad. John Adams left so I went

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.799
<v Speaker 8>to Einstein and then I get there and I'm once

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:16.920
<v Speaker 8>again foiled, uh by those John Adams guys. No, it

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 8>was it was cool. Uh. I feel like I spent

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:24.919
<v Speaker 8>uh in that one. I'm not like sitting next to you,

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 8>like I'm not I'm not like you know, I'm not

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:30.280
<v Speaker 8>with you guys. I'm like sitting on a couch, separate

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 8>in a different area so like we can I can

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 8>see you guys across the way, and uh, I'm with

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 8>two uh, the two other people at Einstein Academy. To

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 8>me at the time, I was like, this, so we're adults.

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 8>Like they didn't they didn't have lines. I was one

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 8>of the lines that these two are adults. They were probably

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.399
<v Speaker 8>like seventeen eighteen briners.

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:52.399
<v Speaker 2>The grown ups.

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. And so I'm hanging out with them, you know,

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:57.839
<v Speaker 8>in between takes or you know, in the green room

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 8>while you guys because there's multiple setups on this one

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.799
<v Speaker 8>set and you guys are in all of them, and

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 8>we just came up for one. I think the it

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 8>was like yeah, coming out, you know, we're just so

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 8>it was just kind of like a weird shock because

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 8>you know, I was like, oh, I'm supposed to be

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 8>on a quiz show. I'm like, oh, this is not

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 8>how I Oh I imagined it, which I'm sure worked

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 8>for the character. But yeah, I mean, you know, they

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 8>come out and I'm also like I was like pre

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 8>pre pewbascent. So then like the host, I'm like, oh,

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 8>she's very pretty, and I'm like, no lines. Yeah.

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:40.800
<v Speaker 2>We always wonder when this happens.

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 1>When actors came back, did like anybody say to you, Hey,

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 1>so good to see you again. You were just here

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago. Did you have to audition again?

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Did they just offer this one to you?

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 8>Do you remember? I'm sure I had to audition again? Yeah,

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 8>I I you remember the I remember the offers. Okay,

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.839
<v Speaker 8>but I think you know, and I felt this way

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 8>other times, is that your agent doesn't say anything, you know,

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 8>like they submit you, and if casting said, yeah, send

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.319
<v Speaker 8>them in and they don't remember you, that's fine. Yeah

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 8>if they do remember you. If they do remember you

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 8>and they still want you, but it's like, don't let them.

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Know that you Yeah.

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and so I didn't say anything. Uh uh. You

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 8>guys weren't right next to me to be like you

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 8>look familiar, but also like I said, I felt like

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 8>I was maybe I had a tiny growth spurt, lost

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 8>a little bit of weight, you know, to where it

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 8>was just different enough. But yeah, and then you know,

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.360
<v Speaker 8>I'm done. I think that that might have been that

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 8>might have been pre taped. I don't even know if

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 8>that was like on the night of That.

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:54.319
<v Speaker 5>Makes Show, because we couldn't have the audience there because

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 5>we were shooting Will your character in the audience like

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 5>you and the family were at Wow.

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:02.959
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so we use the audience space.

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.319
<v Speaker 8>And then that set went through so many changes. I

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 8>think it just wasn't so so I may not. I

0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:13.720
<v Speaker 8>may have been there at taping, uh, just to like watch,

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 8>but I was not like performing, you know, in front

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 8>of people.

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember any interactions with any of us?

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:27.280
<v Speaker 8>I do, you know. I was younger than you guys,

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 8>you know, and so and I was used to being

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 8>like post our guest, you know, coming. I was a

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 8>day player, so like you guys would hang out with

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 8>each other and you know, you said hello and all that,

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:42.920
<v Speaker 8>but it wasn't we weren't yeah, yeah, yeah. And I

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 8>don't even think I ever I met Will on uh

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:47.000
<v Speaker 8>any game because.

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:49.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, because we would never have been working together,

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 4>so probably, yeah, we we didn't even cross paths at

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 4>that time.

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 3>How old?

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 8>Yeah I am forty I will be forty one in

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:56.439
<v Speaker 8>a month.

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, so you're you're four years younger than me,

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 1>and I would the youngest person on set. So season four,

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:05.959
<v Speaker 1>you were like twelve and I was sixteen, so we were.

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 8>Really close, exactly, Like I don't imagine a sixteen year

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 8>old being like, hey, let's get this twelve year old

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 8>to come, you know, hang out with us. You know, right,

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 8>we're gonna say, we're gonna tell dirty jokes, and you know,

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 8>around a twelve year old kid, that's funny.

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 2>People get in trouble for that, Yeah, exactly as we should.

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:37.319
<v Speaker 8>Do.

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:39.359
<v Speaker 2>People ever come up and recognize you from Boy Meets

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:39.959
<v Speaker 2>World with all.

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 1>The things you've done, does anybody specifically mention Boy Meets

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:42.800
<v Speaker 1>World to you?

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:47.719
<v Speaker 8>Well? Occasionally someone will be like, I'm on a rewatch

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 8>you know that watched it, And then the reason I

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 8>heard about that you guys were asking for, you know, like, hey,

0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 8>you've been on the show coming is my my friends

0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:01.280
<v Speaker 8>Ron and Aaron are are avid listeners.

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:03.440
<v Speaker 2>They're they're they're they're r.

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:07.439
<v Speaker 8>And they were like they were like, hey, we heard

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 8>you should you should email them, and they like gave

0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 8>me the email address. Yes, yes, you were on an episode, right,

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 8>And I said I was on too, and they're like,

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 8>definitely for this. Uh but yeah, I mean it's it

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 8>feels like such a lifetime ago.

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 2>But you have literally never stopped working. I mean truly.

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 1>We went over some of your credits and your intro

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and I know that you joke that you're a former

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 1>child actor, current adult actor. How do you think you've

0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 1>never managed to have like burnout?

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:55.360
<v Speaker 8>I think I think it's hitting me now almost got kids,

0:50:55.440 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 8>I've got okay, you know, it's well also the industry,

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 8>you know, we just had the strikes and COVID and everything,

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 8>and uh, you know I never had burnout.

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 3>You know why.

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 8>I never was the series regular, you know, and so

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:19.280
<v Speaker 8>there was lots of time to be a kid in between,

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 8>and a lot of time to be, you know, just

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:26.759
<v Speaker 8>a person. You were always auditioning, which has its own

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:28.959
<v Speaker 8>set of stress, like, oh, now I have an audition.

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:31.240
<v Speaker 8>I'm a stress about that. Why haven't I had an audition?

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna stress about that, But you know it's uh,

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 8>I didn't. I didn't have the luxury really of being

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:43.279
<v Speaker 8>a series regular. So I didn't. It wasn't like every day,

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 8>come to set, work, here's a new script. You know,

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 8>do this, you have these you know, these things you

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 8>have to take care of. You know. It was just

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:53.759
<v Speaker 8>me and then I can be a twenty year old

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 8>and go drinking and carry Yeah. No, twenty one year

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 8>old karaoke every night, and uh so you know that

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 8>that has that benefit. But you know, like I think

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 8>right now, yeah, like I said, the burnout might be

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:16.240
<v Speaker 8>hitting me now. The February of twenty twenty, I booked

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 8>my first series regular for ABC. Yeah, for ABC, did

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:25.440
<v Speaker 8>a did a network test. I cost you you know,

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:27.840
<v Speaker 8>I was cast. They're like, you're gonna be in. You know,

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 8>if it goes, you'll be like six out of thirteen episodes.

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 8>They built a it was gonna be a Western comedy.

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 8>So who it had gone a series? Who knows? But

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 8>and you know I got to visit the set and stuff,

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 8>and then you know we're gonna fill April.

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 2>And then you know what happened in March of twenty twenty.

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 8>Happens and they just never picked it up. And it's

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 8>like and I was my wife was pregnant with our

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 8>first I'm like, wow, I got a series regular, You're

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:58.279
<v Speaker 8>gonna have a kid. It's gonna be great. And then

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:04.040
<v Speaker 8>it's like, oh, the world, the world. Yeah, and you know,

0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:08.520
<v Speaker 8>and it like that really hits. That hits pretty hard

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 8>and uh and then you know, like since then, I've worked,

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 8>you know, I commercials have always been my thing, So

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:21.239
<v Speaker 8>I work commercially. I you know, I've done voiceover and

0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 8>dubbing and so I keep you know, I'm I'm busy. Uh.

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:28.360
<v Speaker 8>But it all it's like you always like, oh that

0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:31.799
<v Speaker 8>was I owmote, I saw, I saw the brass ring

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.040
<v Speaker 8>right there, and I almost had it. And and I

0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 8>feel like that's you know, the way that I was

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 8>saying that the kid kid actors. As you grow, you

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 8>kind of always constantly have to be you have to

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:45.839
<v Speaker 8>be training on the next level because what you had

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:50.239
<v Speaker 8>before will not serve you on the next level. And

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 8>I always kind of feel like I would hit these

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 8>I would hit these pieces and I'd be like almost there,

0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:57.400
<v Speaker 8>like I get a really great you know, you'd get

0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:01.000
<v Speaker 8>a great you know, a couple arc episode, an episodic

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 8>and you're like, okay, cool, like this maybe this will

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:05.759
<v Speaker 8>lead to something else, and then it it doesn't lead

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:07.439
<v Speaker 8>to something else, and then you're back to the grind.

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:10.799
<v Speaker 8>You're like, cool that this is you know, ye I wasn't.

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 8>I'm not delusional, right, So keep going and then you

0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:15.839
<v Speaker 8>get something else. You're like, oh, I got a you know,

0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:18.440
<v Speaker 8>a mini series and I'm gonna do this. And they're like, oh,

0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:20.839
<v Speaker 8>maybe I'll be on next season and you're like, oh, no,

0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:23.800
<v Speaker 8>you're not gonna be on next season. And then they're like, ah,

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 8>you know, it gets it gets uh frustrating.

0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, absolutely, well you did.

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 5>You did ten episodes of one of my favorite shows, Patriot. Yeah,

0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:38.320
<v Speaker 5>and I don't think Will and Danielle know this show.

0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:40.280
<v Speaker 6>It is genius.

0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:43.399
<v Speaker 5>It was I think it only lasted two seasons, right, Yeah, yeah,

0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 5>you guys have to find this. It was like one

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:48.840
<v Speaker 5>of those gems my wife and I stumbled upon for

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:52.240
<v Speaker 5>whatever reason. It was in twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen, Yeah,

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:55.240
<v Speaker 5>and just could not stop laughing.

0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:56.560
<v Speaker 6>And it's brilliant.

0:54:56.680 --> 0:55:01.360
<v Speaker 5>It's like it's an action comedy show about a spy,

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:04.640
<v Speaker 5>like an international spy who's also a folk singer because

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:05.839
<v Speaker 5>he's so traumatized by all.

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:09.200
<v Speaker 3>The people he's killed. Yes, it's you have to watch it,

0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 3>will you will love? Who's the patriot? Who plays the patriot?

0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:13.320
<v Speaker 6>I'm blanking on his name. Who was the main guy?

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:19.120
<v Speaker 8>Michael Dorman Mike, Yeah, but Marks the guy he has

0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 8>to go under cover. Uh.

0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:23.239
<v Speaker 5>His dad has like trained him since he and his

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 5>brother since they were kids, to be killers basically, and

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:28.799
<v Speaker 5>it's just about how that's messed him up. And he

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:31.240
<v Speaker 5>has to go undercover at this company, and so.

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:33.120
<v Speaker 3>He kills Marcus.

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:36.960
<v Speaker 5>To be a piping engineer so he can get contracts

0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:40.200
<v Speaker 5>in Iran or whatever. But he tries to kill Marcus

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:43.759
<v Speaker 5>to get them and doesn't do the job. So you

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:46.719
<v Speaker 5>play the character. You're still alive and he's working with you,

0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 5>and you don't remember that he tried to bring you.

0:55:50.200 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 8>I am a piping engineer And no, no spoilers because

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 8>this is literally the first scene of the show. Is

0:55:57.640 --> 0:56:00.640
<v Speaker 8>he pushes me in front of a truck. Yes, after

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:03.960
<v Speaker 8>his interview doesn't go great. It doesn't go bad, but

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:05.719
<v Speaker 8>it doesn't go great. But I'm the other guy, and

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 8>I'm like, it went great.

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Amazon, It's on Amazon Prime. So I.

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:13.799
<v Speaker 6>Was working on that show for you.

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 8>That was one of the honestly the one of the

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:20.239
<v Speaker 8>biggest highlights of my entire career. It was such a

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:24.520
<v Speaker 8>great cast, such a great crew, Like it felt like

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:28.480
<v Speaker 8>a family, you know. It was it seemed like everyone

0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 8>was happy to be there. Whether they were, I don't know,

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:32.600
<v Speaker 8>but it was, you know, I was in. I was

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 8>back and forth from Chicago that that year. All I

0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 8>knew was I was gonna be in three episodes that

0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:40.960
<v Speaker 8>I ended up being in nine, and so back and

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 8>forth from Chicago in the summer, which everyone's like, oh,

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 8>so great, you're here during the summer, and I was like,

0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 8>what do you talk about I've never been to Chicago,

0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 8>And they're like, winters are terrible, and then I just

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:55.200
<v Speaker 8>hear about it now. But no, it was it was

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:58.319
<v Speaker 8>so great, the town is great cast. And then I

0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 8>was I was always excited to read the next script. Yeah,

0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 8>you know, and and that's you know, it's not like

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 8>the show always ends on a cliffhanger, but there it's

0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:12.880
<v Speaker 8>the story just has to continue, and so I'm like,

0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:14.799
<v Speaker 8>I need to know what happens next. And there's one

0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 8>episode like in the middle that I wasn't in, and

0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:20.800
<v Speaker 8>I was like, you know, emailing all the rest of

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:22.240
<v Speaker 8>the cast, like, can you send me the script? I

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:27.360
<v Speaker 8>want to read the script. But yeah, it was. And

0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:30.960
<v Speaker 8>then you know, it's when you filming that like a

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:33.080
<v Speaker 8>second episode, because we did it. Amazon did a thing

0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 8>where like you did the pilot. I mean it's very

0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 8>much like networked out. You did the pilot and then

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:39.640
<v Speaker 8>they would kind of like test it and see and

0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 8>then you do the the rest of the series. And

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 8>the first scene I'm doing is after I've been hit

0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:51.480
<v Speaker 8>by a truck, but I'm like back at work and

0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:54.600
<v Speaker 8>and I have like a I have brain damage, but

0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:58.840
<v Speaker 8>I have a nurse with me and Charlotte Arnold and

0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 8>she was on the Grassy. I didn't I did. I

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:05.880
<v Speaker 8>didn't watch The Grassy. But for those Canadians out there, uh,

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 8>she has this. She she was in the first episode.

0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 8>I don't think she She got a call like a

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 8>week before filming the second episode and she got the

0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:18.520
<v Speaker 8>screwed the day before. She had like a page and

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:23.960
<v Speaker 8>a half monologue whoa, and she just killed it. Everyone

0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 8>on set was like that was amazing. And I'm just

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 8>sitting there likes to be kind of like nothing's happening,

0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:32.400
<v Speaker 8>and I'm just like listening to her and then I

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:40.320
<v Speaker 8>have kurtwood Smith, so so great, so wonderful guy and

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:45.440
<v Speaker 8>so intimidating in his like silence yep. And he just

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 8>walks up to me, quietly, towering over me, and and

0:58:52.400 --> 0:58:54.840
<v Speaker 8>just was like, so, you know, he just he just

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<v Speaker 8>has that look of like he doesn't know how to

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<v Speaker 8>read me. And it was just I couldn't help but laugh,

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<v Speaker 8>just because it's so it's so surreal that all this

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<v Speaker 8>is happening and great time, great so now I have

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<v Speaker 8>nothing but great things.

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<v Speaker 6>Good to hear. The show is really wonderful, you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>It's one of those shames that it just to me

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<v Speaker 5>it should have won everything and just gone for ten years.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought it was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, check it out well Marcus.

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<v Speaker 1>My final question for you is you have been doing

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<v Speaker 1>this for thirty eight years, when or can you? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you ever when did you imagine you would be still

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<v Speaker 1>doing the same thing, still having a career this long lasting,

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<v Speaker 1>that you picked your lifelong career at three years old.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were ever going to do something else, what

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<v Speaker 1>would you do?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh? God, well, I mean I have a fan, my

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<v Speaker 8>family has a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>There tell us more.

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<v Speaker 8>Well I do I? I do remote work. I do

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<v Speaker 8>back office. I used to be, you know, like there

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<v Speaker 8>every day through COVID, you know, just trying to keep

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<v Speaker 8>everyone alive and you know, going and uh, I mean

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<v Speaker 8>there's that option.

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<v Speaker 2>The rest.

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<v Speaker 8>It's called Feast from the East and it's in West

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<v Speaker 8>Los Angeles kind of like a mile and a half,

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<v Speaker 8>like south of U c l A, like Westwood. We've

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<v Speaker 8>been there, they've been there since eighty one. So you know,

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<v Speaker 8>we love our customers because they kept us alive through

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<v Speaker 8>a recession and a pandemic, and.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we it looks really good.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. The Chinese chicken salad is the main main thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Chicken chicken wings look really Goodeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>We have had some celebrities come through.

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<v Speaker 2>You're about.

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<v Speaker 8>A couple of times. Yeah. Louise Fletcher was a regular.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't realize still later I was like, oh, was

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<v Speaker 8>their names? Louise and then I like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 8>was swiping her crumbs like Fletcher and I was like,

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<v Speaker 8>oh my god. Kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Danielle's right, you're about to have another celebrity and

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<v Speaker 4>Rider and I come through as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's gonna be awesome.

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<v Speaker 8>I love it. Our customers will be very happy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>And then Jack Black has been going there since he

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<v Speaker 8>was in like high school. That's cool, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>we we we've I'm not like forends with him, but yeah, we've.

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<v Speaker 8>Like my mom's like that, isn't that the guy from

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<v Speaker 8>High Fidelity? And like at that point that was his

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<v Speaker 8>big big thing. I was like, yeah, it's him. Awesome,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, Oh that's cool. Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Marcus, you have had such an incredible career.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for coming and joining us and spending your

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<v Speaker 1>time with us today. It was so nice to catch

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<v Speaker 1>up with you and to hear your experiences, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>just so appreciative that you came and spent your time

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<v Speaker 1>with us.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, thank you guys so much. It was it was great,

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<v Speaker 8>great remembering all these things with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and thanks to Ron and Aaron for making an

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<v Speaker 2>appen Thank you, Mark, it's.

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<v Speaker 8>Great to see you. Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>He has I mean, he's never stopped working and like

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<v Speaker 1>he said, he's never had a series regular role.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is unbelievable. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean talk about like that journeyman actor thing we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Will where you said that just like it's

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<v Speaker 1>so hard for that to exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it almost doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, so the idea that he's still doing it

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<v Speaker 4>is he's one of the few because it doesn't exist

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<v Speaker 4>anymore that kind of you can make a good living

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<v Speaker 4>just being on every show.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we've we all saw those people growing up.

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<v Speaker 4>We knew those people where it's like, oh, they've been

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<v Speaker 4>on everything, but they've never starred in anything, and that

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of doesn't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>So those movie stars are now doing.

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<v Speaker 2>TV smercials and hosting shows.

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<v Speaker 5>Doing the secondary hosting Gabe shows. It's like yeah, it's yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>I really want to thank uh, my family, my friends

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<v Speaker 4>for my youth and fillmore nomination.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't have done it without you. It's really amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>You give a thank you speech for a nomination.

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