1 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Two Minute Drill Podcast on Indianapolis Colts Podcast. 2 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: I'm Amanda Foster, as always here this week with JJ Sankovitz. 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: JJ. I feel like it's been a couple weeks since 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: I've had you all. 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 3: Glad to be back here, Yes, very. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: Exciting and today we're going to get you already for the. 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: Colts Week six game against the Arizona Cardinals this weekend 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium, looking to build off a forty 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: to six win over the Las Vegas Raiders last week. 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: A big win with Jonathan Taylor scoring three touchdowns, Michael 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: Pittman Jr. Making it three straight games with a touchdown. 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: He's at four on the season, so I guess just 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: to start things off his previous high for a season 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: with six and twenty twenty one. And something that we 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: heard from pitt last year about wanting to get to 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: that next level of being a wide receiver is getting 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: in the end zone. We've seen him do that this 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: year already. Even with the wealth of talent that we 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: have on this offense, which is impressive in its own right, 20 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: especially you know last year Battling is back injury, being 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: able to come back this and put on the show 22 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: that he has so far. 23 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're seeing him have a really good trust 24 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: with Daniel Jones down in the red zone in then 25 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: of course into the end zone, where you know, some 26 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: of the details of his routes have been really on point. 27 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 3: The you know, the touchdown he had against Vegas was awesome, 28 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 3: the diving catch joke, made a great throw, but Pittman 29 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: did a really good job kind of reading Jones what 30 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: he was doing on that play, extending his route. Those 31 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: little things are really mattering for Pittman, and he's like 32 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: he's kind of become this a version of this archetype 33 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: of receiver that's starting to kind of really show itself 34 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: in the NFL, and it's guys who have really good 35 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: feel against zone. Pittman's a very good receiver when it 36 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: comes to knowing where to be against zone coverage. And 37 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: you look at the league's leading receivers right now, puku 38 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: Aku is like the all Star at this, right Yeah, 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: but then Jackson Smith and Jigba he is really really 40 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: good at this. You know, Mecca Buca down in Tampa's 41 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: really good at this. Some of these top receivers, I'm 42 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: gon Ross Saint Brown. 43 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: These big league wide names, but they're. 44 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: All doing it because the beating zone, and that's just 45 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: where the league has gone with a lot more zone coverage. 46 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: So Pittman kind of fitting into that has been like 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: he's clearly healthy, and he clearly has developed a very 48 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: good rapport with Daniel Jones, and that's now starting to 49 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: produce the kind of touchdown numbers that pitt always wanted 50 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: to get. 51 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: Right well, and so speaking of healthy wide receivers for 52 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, should have Alec Pierce back this 53 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: weekend after missing two games with a concussion, which is 54 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: very good news. We kind of saw how shout out 55 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: to Ashton Doolan, the Colts were able to adjust their 56 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: game for the last two weeks without having Pierce in there. 57 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: But you also can't deny how much he just opens 58 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: up the field right for the offensive for Daniel Jones. 59 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: So a very good sign for him to have cleared 60 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: the protocol and to get back out on the field. 61 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: The other thing that Alec has done because obviously, like 62 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: you're referencing Amanda, that's the sort of gravity that Pierce 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: springs to the offense with his ability to stretch it 64 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: down field, yep, Alex this year on crossing routes has 65 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: been really yeah. Yeah, like that is a part of 66 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: his game that he has significantly improved from last year 67 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 3: and really the first three of his career to this year. 68 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: So he's becoming a thread over the middle, which means 69 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: you can't just say, all right, we're gonna, you know, 70 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: play him a certain way because he can only do 71 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: one thing. He can now do a lot of different 72 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: things on the route tree, which is making him more dangerous. 73 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: It's making the Colts offense more dangerous. But I mean, certainly, 74 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: like the ability to take the top off a defense 75 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: is something the Colts offense does want to have and 76 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: Pierce is the number one guy on this team and 77 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: doing that again, Dulan, like you mentioned a Mada great 78 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: football player. We all love the guy here. It's a 79 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: different ballgame when it's a guy in al Pierce who 80 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: led the NFL and yards perception last year. Yeah, that 81 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: just brings a different focus from opposing defenses. Certainly, you've 82 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: gotta be aware of Ashton dueling and his long speed 83 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: and his ability to get downfield. But again, it's the 84 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: point is Pierce has done it. He's shown he can 85 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: be that guy, and now he's also showing he can 86 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: do a lot of other different things that really do 87 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: impact the Colts offense. 88 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: Well, and I'm glad you brought up Pierce's other abilities 89 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: and the crossing rats in the short game as well, 90 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: because that's kind of the theme of the entire offens 91 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: this year, is that you have a lot of guys 92 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: who can do it all. We saw it with Ashton Nolan, 93 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: We've seen it with Tyler Warren. Of that, having all 94 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: of those guys just makes it so hard for a 95 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: defense to game plan against you because they don't. You 96 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: can't just lock down somebody and then, like we talked 97 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: about this in the preseason, you can't lock one person 98 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: down and say you're good because you've got all these 99 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: other guys that could come in and do the same thing. 100 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: You could even try to lock down the Colts top 101 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: three options, right, Okay, then you're taking away I guess Pittman, 102 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: Warren and Taylor, right, and then they're just gonna be 103 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: a big Alec Pearson, Josh Downs. Yeah. 104 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: I mean it's great, it's so much fun, right. 105 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: It's it that this collection of weapons works so well together. Yeah, 106 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: And I've talked about this for a while. It's like 107 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 3: some teams might have like, wow, look a look at 108 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: the depth they have on this team. You look at 109 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: a cult and you're like, oh, maybe they don't have 110 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: like a number one league wide star receiver, but everyone 111 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: does something really well that is different from everyone else. Yep, 112 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: So you don't have a lot of like overlap in 113 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: the thing a guy does best. Yeah, and that then 114 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 3: leads you to be able to lean into the thing 115 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: guys do best in a way that a lot of 116 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: other offenses that might have three or four really good players, 117 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: but maybe two of them are field stretchers. And it's like, 118 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 3: just because you have two of these guys doesn't mean 119 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: they can be on the field at the same time. 120 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 3: Whatever it might be that this group works so well together. 121 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 3: And then the thing Amanda I'm interested in for Sunday 122 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: is Daniel Jones has done such a good job pre 123 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: snap of diagnosing with those weapons where the ball needs 124 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: to go. And how does he do that against an 125 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: Arizona defense that is about as shape shifty as you 126 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: get in terms of what they do. They play a 127 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: lot of they play a lot of quarters. They're the 128 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: highest quarter coverage team in the league that I think 129 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: it's twenty nine percent. But how they get there is 130 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 3: just it's wild. The stuff that Jonathan Gan is doing. 131 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: He's like rotating guys after the snap. Yeah, it's not 132 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: even like that, like for a little bit of pre stappretation. 133 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: It's like you're like a second end of the play 134 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, Buddha Baker's bailing into a 135 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: deep half and you're like, well, what the hell I 136 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: thought he was like, I thought this is like a 137 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: Cover three thing here. So what they're able to do 138 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: is really really interesting. It's really difficult to diagnose, but 139 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones has been very good at figuring out how 140 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: to beat those sort of defenses. This year. I think 141 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: it goes back to facing lunarumos. 142 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: I was about to say it all just comes together. 143 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, face that in training camp and yep, look, 144 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure we'll talk about a little bit 145 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: bar zone. It's got a pretty good defense tho, one 146 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: that you do need to be aware of. 147 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: Yep. 148 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: Well, and before we get into Arizona, talking a little 149 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: bit more about the Colts and injuries and defense, specifically 150 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: Kenny Moore, the second did not participate in any practices 151 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: this week, so that achilles injury is still going to 152 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: keep him out for at least another week this weekend, 153 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: and Tyler Goodson, with a groin injury, also did not 154 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: practice this week, so those two guys missing. Obviously, Kenny 155 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: is the bigger of the two, just with Goodson being 156 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: behind Jonathan Taylor, but missing missing Kenny as you know, 157 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: you've got, that's your your year nine starting quarterback. That 158 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: not that the Colts have struggled without him, but you 159 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: can tell that it's just a little bit different without him. 160 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: And it's not just missing Kenny, it's also missing by Hilton. Yeah, 161 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: who's on the practice squad injured list, So you're down. 162 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: You're sort of the guy you brought in as soon 163 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: as Kenny got hurt is now also out. Yeah, so 164 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: we're we're gonna see what lou Anarumo does here. Are 165 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 3: we going to see Makai Blackman go into the slot. 166 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: Which had an interception against the Raiders? 167 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: Makai Blackman absolutely did. I screwed up the call that 168 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: over the piano. I thought I thought it was a 169 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: pick six. 170 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, I thought it was when I 171 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: first saw. 172 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: It, So I gotta I gotta own that one that 173 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: he he stepped out of the six yard line. But yeah, 174 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: you know you're gonna put black men in the slot 175 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: and then maybe Jonathan Edwards on the outside. Interesting how 176 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: lou manages that. What the other part of this that 177 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: I'm interested in though, is kind of knowing the the 178 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: uncertainty you have at that second outside corner spot, knowing 179 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: how good Marvin Harrison Junior is. I know that the 180 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: numbers maybe don't indicate it. Are you gonna have charvarious 181 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: word travel with Marvin Harrison Junior? Is are you going 182 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: to because right now Mooney has been kind of playing 183 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: sides for the most part, Are you going to have 184 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: him just say we're taken away eighteen? I mean, you're 185 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: still gonna have to play defense because Michael Wilson's a 186 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: solid player, Greg Dortchen the slots a decent player, Trey 187 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: McBride's very good right end, yep, But do you just 188 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: say we're gonna take away your best perimeter option in 189 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior? Or do you continue to play sides 190 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: and you know, just try to scramble what they're doing offensively? 191 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: Then? 192 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: So I don't know. That's something I'm going to be 193 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: tracking kind of throughout this game of you know, how 194 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: often is Ward matched up on Harrison? Is Arizona able 195 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: to get Harrison away from Ward at any point? 196 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: Right? 197 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: And does that benefit their offensive all? 198 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, another one to keep an eye on is 199 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: Jermaine Pratt, linebacker. Yeah. 200 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: Sign played with lou An Aroumo for the Bengals from 201 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen to twenty twenty four. He said that Lou 202 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: as with all the guys that have played with lou 203 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: that have come to the Colts, says, year lose the 204 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: big reason why they want to come, just because of 205 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: the coach and the man that he is. Corresponding move 206 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: is Joe Bacchi is on the injured reserve list now. 207 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: But it'll be interesting to see how Pratt kind of meshes. 208 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: With this defense play right away, right exactly? Yeah, Well, 209 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: we'll see. 210 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a veteran, he's played, he's twenty nineteen. 211 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: He was actually the first defensive draft pick lou Anaruma 212 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: ever had with Cincinnati, yep in the third round that year. 213 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: They took two offensive guys to start that draft. Yeah, 214 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a vet who could probably come in. 215 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: It's not like he's out, It's not like he needs 216 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: the ramp up period, right because he played four games 217 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: with the Raiders and went through all off of training 218 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: camp with the Raiders. He didn't travel to Indianapolis for 219 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: Week five and he was inactive for that game. Something 220 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: something's going on there. The Raiders released him. Colts are 221 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: lucky enough to go get him, and yeah, I mean, 222 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: you know, we'll see. He's a he's shown himself to 223 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: be a good player in this league, yep. And someone 224 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: who knows Low's defense and that that kind of weak 225 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: side linebacker spot next desire. Franklin has been a bit 226 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: of a it's been a bit unsettled this year for 227 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 3: the Colts, So we'll see if he can maybe come 228 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: in and provide some stability just right. 229 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: Off the bat. Yeah. 230 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: And one more new guy in the locker room that 231 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: we got to talk about, with Spencer Trader sustaining a 232 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: season ending injury against the Raiders last weekend. Colts put 233 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: him on IR obviously, and then signed Michael Badgeley to 234 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: come in and kick any money. 235 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: We're familiar. You're familiar with Michael Badgeley. 236 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know his nickname was the money Badger until 237 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: you said it and I was like, hold on, and 238 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: then I think DeForest Buckner called him money bags in 239 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: the locker room too, in the middle of the media 240 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: scron which was funny. But he's got He spent some 241 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: time here in twenty twenty one, a little bit of 242 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: time in the preseason in twenty eighteen, so he's got 243 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: relationships with Rigo Sanchez and Luke Rhodes already, which talking 244 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: to them this week, and we heard from Brian Mason 245 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: on Tuesday that kind of the adjustment period is going 246 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: to be a lot smoother because the three of them 247 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: already know each other and kind of know how each other. 248 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: They know they know how to work together. 249 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: The kicking operation really doesn't right, yeah. 250 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: And that I think, you know, you you don't think 251 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: about the skills of a kicker until you're without them necessarily. 252 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: So I'm thinking of being. 253 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: Able to have that reliability going into it, because we've seen, 254 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, you got to rely on your kicker and 255 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: when the Colts are you know you're putting, they get 256 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: down the field and then whether or not they can 257 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: get to the red zone, you get into that. But 258 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: you want to have someone that you know you can 259 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: rely on to go out there and get the job done. 260 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: I'm interested in how Michael Badgley is able to develop 261 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: trust with Shane Steiken. 262 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, through this which they overlapped. 263 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: They did overlap with the with the Chargers for a 264 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: little bit, but I mean Shane Stikeen clearly trusted Spencer Schrader. Yes, 265 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: just implicitly. Spencer had earned that with the way that 266 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: he had kicked in training camp and then the start 267 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 3: of the regular season. You know, it probably won't happen 268 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: instantly with Michael Badgeley. I'm interested in, you know, you 269 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: get into these like fourth and medium. It's it's the 270 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: real toss up decisions where you go to your model 271 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: and the model throws its hands up and says, I 272 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 3: don't know, what are you gonna do here? Those situations 273 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: where you know, say it's like fourth and four on 274 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: the forty yard line or four maybe even fourth and 275 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 3: six we'll call it, and you're on the forty yard 276 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 3: line and it's like, you know, you probably could kick 277 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: that with Spencer. Are you gonna kick that with Badgely? 278 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: Or are you gonna go for it? 279 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: Right? 280 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: That's gonna be really interesting to see how that sort 281 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: of plays out. The thing with badgely is I think 282 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: over the course of his career he's been very reliable 283 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: inside fifty yards. I was about to say he's gonna 284 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: hit his pat. If you need him to a forty 285 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: five yard kick, he can drill it. It's been the 286 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: distance kicks that have been a bit of an issue 287 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: for him in his career. Now he's never kicked with 288 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: these k balls that have caused all this. If you're 289 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: real deep into special teams Twitter, the ca balls have 290 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: been a very interesting story. Kayling Killer from ESPN wrote 291 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: a really interesting story on it. If they're really having 292 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: an impact. That sounds like they're not really having much 293 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 3: of an impact, but you never know, though. I've seen 294 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 3: kickers kick from longer this year. The most notable thing 295 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: I think though this year is and this is applied 296 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: to the Colts once, but so through Week five, there 297 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 3: had been sixteen field goals attempted at the end of 298 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter or overtime with ten or few or 299 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: seconds left. Sixteen last year there were seven. 300 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: Wow. So interesting. Well, when Cardinals have lost three straight games. 301 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: On last second, Arizona Cardinals have lost three consecutive games 302 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 3: on those kicks. 303 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: Yep. 304 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: Interesting is that is that some like I don't know 305 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: why that is. I wonder if it's because with the 306 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: new kickoff, teams are are able to get downfield a 307 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: little bit quicker and get set up for those game 308 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: winning field goals quicker than in your Pastor you start 309 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 3: in the twenty five and you're kind of need to 310 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: get an additional forty yards to get into a field 311 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: goal range. Now you might only need thirty two plays. 312 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: So I wonder if that it has a bit of 313 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: an impact or if it's just for whatever reason this year, 314 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: it's kind of random. 315 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: So that's why I love. 316 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: Having you on, because you have all these random numbers 317 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: that you can pull out and then it's like it 318 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: turns into a really interesting conversation. 319 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: So I found that out because I got asked a 320 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 3: mailbag question about confidence in Spencer versus confidence in Michael Badgeley, 321 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: and I was just like, I wonder, like this is 322 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: where my brain goes. I wonder how many kicks there 323 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 3: have been lat this year. I look at them as sixteen, 324 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: that's a high number, twenty twenty three, twenty, They just 325 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 3: start going back the last year is even close to 326 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: this high I think was twenty eighteen, when they're fifteen 327 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: to those three yeah, five. So I don't know why 328 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 3: that necessarily is. Maybe we get to the end of 329 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: the year and it all kind of normalizes. But for 330 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: whatever reason, having a kicker who can hit those end 331 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: of game kicks is important. Of those six team kicks, 332 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: fourteen have gone in. So that also tells you that 333 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: having a good kicker there. Yeah, is something that has 334 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: been important to a lot of teams this year. 335 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: Is special teams, special players or however, special. 336 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: Teams matter a lot. Yeah, and shot shot up by 337 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: the way, shut up by the way to Brian Mason, 338 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 339 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 340 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: Yes, his opening statement this week was like seventeen hundred words, 341 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: and I sent it to my friend Adam Hoage covers 342 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: the Bears. He's covered the Bears for over a decade 343 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: in Chicago. Adam is the special teams coordinator at a 344 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: high school in the Chicago area, so he's a big 345 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: special teams guy. And I go, hey, look at this, 346 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: tell me what you think, and he goes, I learned 347 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: a ton, Yeah, and learned. He put it in his 348 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: power rankings. He ranked the Colts eighth and his power 349 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: rankings this week, and he put in there. If you're 350 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: interested in learning about special teams, go read Cults Special 351 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: teams coordinator Brian Mason's opening statements. It's all interesting, it's 352 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: all informative, and you'll learn a lot. Yeah, and I 353 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: feel the same way. I love these opening sermons that 354 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: he does because I've like I'm sitting there being like 355 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: I never thought of that, right. I also never thought 356 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: that's really interesting. 357 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: I never noticed this that the other thing. And he 358 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: brings up numbers and you get insight into what they're thinking. 359 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: If you want to learn about special teams, go watch 360 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: Brian Jason's press coomference. 361 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: And as we've heard from so many people, that's obviously 362 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: special teams matter, so you should pay attention to them. 363 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: They are They are more often the difference in games 364 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: than people would think. 365 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, okay. One last thing to bring up to 366 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: keep an eye on for the Cardinals. Quarterback Kyler Murray 367 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday with a foot injury. 368 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: At the time we're recording this on Friday, we have 369 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: not received the Cardinals practice report. Not sure what is 370 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: going to happen on Friday for him, he did. That 371 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: was an injury that he sustained. They took him out 372 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: for a play or two on Sunday, came back in 373 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: and finished the game. 374 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: It happened when he got hit in the face of 375 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: right snap and then he came out with a footage right. 376 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know how that happened. 377 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if anybody knows how it happened, right, 378 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: So we'll see. 379 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: We'll keep an eye on it there. 380 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: It's one of those things you know with the starting 381 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: quarterback that they're gonna play until they literally don't play. 382 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: Kind of thing, is what it seems like. If like 383 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: prepare for Jacoby Brissette as QB two. You never know, 384 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: but they're not gonna roll him out on Ariday. 385 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be very I mean, we could be 386 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: proven wrong. I'd be very surprised if we are. Then 387 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: I would be very surprised if the Arizona Cardinals said Nope, 388 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: he's not playing right that would be a little bit weird. Yeah, 389 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: Like I remember in twenty twenty one when Carson Wentz 390 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: had sprains in both of his ankles and did not 391 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: know anle, both of his ankles, did not practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 392 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: and then got out there and played against the Titans 393 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: on Sunday. Of course, So even and I genuine like 394 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: I was talking about this with Casey Valley as we're 395 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: about to record here, part of it might try to 396 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: be like that coaching subterfuge of like, let's make sure 397 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: they don't know who's gonna play. Well, every every defensive 398 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: player back there is prepared for Kyler Murray to play 399 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: this week, and then you'll pivot to Jacoby Brissette. Yeah, 400 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: you prepare, then you prepare for the starter. 401 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 402 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: And I don't think it's gonna be like, oh no, 403 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissette's playing, We have no plan for him, right, 404 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: but you have to be ready for Kyler Murray play. 405 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: The other part is, I genuinely I'm not sure if 406 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 3: Arizona knows if he could play or not, because with 407 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: this foot injury, it could be a we're gonna take 408 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: this thing right up to game time, right, and we're 409 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 3: gonna you know what, he wasn't able to practice this week, 410 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: but we're gonna work him out Sunday morning. Yeah, on 411 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: the field. See how it is and then we'll make 412 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: a decision. So I won't believe he will or will 413 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: not play until we get that in actives listed at 414 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: eleven thirty. 415 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, sore, There you go. Well, as always, let's to 416 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: look forward to. Let's to keep an eye on going 417 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: into this game. Colt's looking to move to five and one, 418 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: which is kind of a crazy thing to say when 419 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: you think about it at this point in the season, 420 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: but very exciting. 421 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: If you'd have told me we'd be going back to 422 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: California with a five on one record, potentially you win 423 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: this game, I would have you know, two months ago, 424 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 3: I've been doing you know, jumping, I can't I can't think. 425 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: I can't do a cartwheel, so clips, jumping japs would 426 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: be like, that'd be kind of lame. I don't know, 427 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 3: I can't do a cartwheel. So I was gonna say, 428 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 429 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: Well, that's better than nothing, better than Yeah, maybe you 430 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: could work on a cartwheel. 431 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I should work on. 432 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: For at some point this season. 433 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: There we'll go with that, and with that we will 434 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: close out this week's episode short and sweet. Thanks so 435 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: much for tuning in as always, and make sure to 436 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: keep up with all the Colts, or the latest news 437 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: on colts dot Com ahead of this weekend's game. 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