1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Giants Mobile the Giants Podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: We welcome two time Super Bowl champion David Deal into 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: the Giants Huddle on Paul to Tino as we are 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: in the press box in Cleveland after the Giants seventeen 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: to thirteen Week two preseason lost to the Cleveland Browns. 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: But really, this whole week was continuing to evaluate the 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: young players, not just here in this game, David, but 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: it was about what happened during the dual practices during 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: the week. Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean that's 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: the one great thing about practicing up against the competition 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: and great competition like the Cleveland Browns, who are a 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: playoff team last year. You want to see number one, 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: who are the young players who can adapt into just 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: on the move? And number two, now in the second 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: year of this offense and defense, who could elevate their 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: game to the second level as a veteran because of 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: their knowledge and understanding of what scheme are we running, 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: what are we looking to accomplish out of it? And moreover, 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: for the Giants offensive line to continue to get that 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: jel and cohesion up against a different type of game 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: that Joe Woods in that defense ram. Now the Giants, 23 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: like everybody else in the NFL, will have to cut 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: five more players come by Tuesday. That gets them down 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: from eighty five to eighty. Joe Judge did say going 26 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: into this game he wanted to have a pretty good 27 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: idea of where his roster stood. I still think he's 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: probably gonna have some questions going into Foxborough and New England. Well, 29 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: that New England game will wind up being home next weekend, 30 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I mean, figure you're right going 31 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: into New England to do the joint practices and coming 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: back for the game. But I think when we saw 33 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: the amount of young players play, especially at the wide 34 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: receiver and the defensive back position, those rooms are very 35 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: very heavy right now with players, And with this roster 36 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: cutting down and having to get down to eight players 37 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: over the next couple of days, you know they're gonna 38 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: be able to evaluate this film and more importantly, evaluate 39 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: what took place in practice and who during this competition 40 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: was able to step up and make plays and be 41 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: a valuable member of this roster. All right, let's get 42 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: to the bread and butter of what happened during the 43 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: week because most of your starters if you're the Giants 44 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: and even with Cleveland, did not play in this game 45 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: today as we tape, but we did see a lot 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: of those guys going against each other during the course 47 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: of those dual practices. Where do you think the Giants 48 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: got the most information from and the most things that 49 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: they could feel good about. I think number one where 50 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: they need to improve is the two minutes role. I 51 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: think we saw on both sides of the ball on 52 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: on Friday, some errors made, especially on the offensive side 53 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: of the ball, a sack given up, a false start. 54 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: Those are all things that when you sit there and 55 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: you go through a game, you can't take back because 56 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: those are the things that make the difference between winning 57 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: or losing games. And we know how much each game 58 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: means to you. And then the other thing for the 59 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, being able to go up 60 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: against some of these receivers and the type of scheme 61 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: that Kevin Stefanski runs, all the bootlegs, all the nakeds, 62 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: all the change of direction, marrying it to the run game. 63 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: It makes you be honest and make sure that you 64 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: know your exs and nose and keep your eye and 65 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: focused on the football instead of being overaggressive, and then 66 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Baker Mayfield rolls out and has 67 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: an easy completion. It allows them to keep their p's 68 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: and queues and more importantly, get all of the communication 69 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: done the needed. The fans will get their first look 70 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: this summer at Daniel Jones when the starters played probably 71 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: a half or maybe even a little more against the Patriots. 72 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: But you've been able to see Jones at practice and 73 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: saw him this week in Cleveland. What is your assessment 74 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: of his progression so far? I think I love the 75 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: way that he's running this offense. He's really taking ownership 76 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: of it. You could see the communication and the command 77 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: in and out of the line of scrimmage, and at 78 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage if he sees a different look, 79 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: whether it's with protections, whether it's with the wide receivers 80 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: getting their hots and sites. Those are the constant things 81 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: you're looking to see in the improvement of And the 82 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: one thing that we know is that with Daniel Jones, 83 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: he's a player that's gonna make a mistake, but he's 84 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: not gonna make it twice. He learns from his mistakes 85 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: and the more reps that they're gonna get together with 86 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: the timing with the wide receivers and getting this cohesion 87 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: with the offensive line, the better office is going to 88 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: be let alone when Sae Kwon Barkley comes back. You 89 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: mentioned Sae Kwon Barkley. Now, from what we understand, he 90 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: may see some seven on seven action, but still no 91 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: contact into England during the joint practices. This is a 92 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: guy who, because he's coming back from knee surgery, is 93 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: not able to play right now, which means these guys 94 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: like Booker and Clement and Bright well by trying to 95 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: earn a spot behind him. What have you seen from 96 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: those guys so far? Well, I think DeVante Pooker was 97 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: a great pick up during the off season because he 98 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: fits this scheme well. He can catch out of the 99 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: backfield but his ability to run the zone scheme and 100 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: the power scheme to let those block develop in the 101 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: minute that he sees that holy gets his foot in 102 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: the ground, gets north and south and runs with his 103 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: pads underneath him. We saw Corey Clement today. He can 104 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: bounce and work the perimeter. He can catch out of 105 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: the backfield as well. And the thing that I love 106 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: to see out of both of them, they both were 107 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: able to step up handle blitz is, get the past protection, 108 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: get their pads underneath liebackers, and hold up because it's 109 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: not just about running the football. And in regards to 110 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: say Juan Barkley, I love the process that the Giants 111 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: are taking right now. You don't want to rush him 112 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: out there too early. Let's face him and you have 113 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: a seventeen game schedule like the Giants have this year, 114 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: something that they've never faced before. Every single hit, every 115 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: single contact, especially when you're doing that at the running 116 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: back position, counts. So the fact that they've been able 117 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: to slowly monitor him, have him on a pitch count 118 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: to make sure that he's a hundred percent healthy for 119 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: the season. That's the most important thing because you're not 120 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: getting wins in August. Now. Clement's got a little more 121 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: quick than Booker, But I think the big thing for 122 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: Clement today look that neither back put up big numbers, 123 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: but Clement held onto the ball he had that costly 124 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: fumbled down to the end zone against the Jets in 125 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: Game one. I think it was important for him to 126 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: make sure he cleaned that up, especially when we know 127 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: ball security means job security in the NFL, especially at 128 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: the running back position. So it's at least he got 129 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: it out of his system during that preseason game up 130 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: against the Jets. But that's what makes the difference between 131 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: being a valuable backup and the start in the NFL, 132 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: especially at the running back position. We did not see 133 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: much of Gary Brightwell. In fact, he didn't come in 134 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: until the fourth quarter against the Browns. Hard to make 135 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: an evaluation. They're very hard to make an evaluation. I 136 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: was expecting more runs out of him, especially in the 137 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: second half, but I think they wanted to give more 138 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: to Corey Clement. We know what Gary Brightwell can bring 139 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: to the special team's department. That's one of the reasons 140 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: why Quinn was so big on him because of what 141 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: his production was at Arizona. Looking at his game film 142 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 1: from college, he can run the gap scheme. He understands 143 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: his own scheme and how to set those blocks up 144 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: and let him to develop and not run into the 145 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: backs of his offensive lineman. But there's nothing that duplicates 146 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: game reps that in a game experience like he could 147 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: have had today, And hopefully we'll see some more in 148 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: New England. In the booth earlier you commented to me 149 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: there was a run behind the left side where he 150 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: really showed patience and set up his blockers and then 151 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: made the quick juke to get a pretty dawn good game. 152 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: It was the kind of play you can only get 153 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: in live action, and you have to be able to 154 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: know what you're doing, no doubt about it. It was 155 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: an outside zone perimeter play, but they actually utilized it 156 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: down blocked by the tight end and pulled the left 157 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: guard Kenny Wiggins out there. And sometimes the running backs 158 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: see daylight and they want to hit it right away, 159 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: but understanding the scheme and seeing Kenny Wiggins pull in 160 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: front of him, he slowed his pace down and let 161 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: that block develop, which meant an extra six yards on 162 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: the run. All right, Let's talk about the wide receivers 163 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: for a second, because David Sills has been the star 164 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: of camp. Showed some big playability again this week in Cleveland, 165 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: and what happens. He catches a touchdown pass on the 166 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: game against the Browns, No doubt about it. That was 167 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: one of the players that I think we're all looking 168 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: to set up. When you think about the competition between him, 169 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: C J. Board and Pettis, I think c. J. Board 170 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: has taken that role on because of what he means 171 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: to special teams and how he can contribute to the 172 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 1: wide receiver position. But with David, he left some plays 173 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: on the field last week up against the Jets, had 174 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: the one knocked out of his hands in the condest 175 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: the ball, and had some drops on Friday. But today 176 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: to come back, have some big catches, have one at 177 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: the sideline, and they have a touchdown catch. Those are 178 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: the types of types of improvement. More importantly, the bounce 179 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: back games that you need out of a young player. Now, 180 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Lawson Mac because they're Nick Dupp did not play against 181 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: the Browns and didn't do anything of course to help 182 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: their calls because they were sidelined. I don't know if 183 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: any of the other receivers in this game necessarily separated themselves. No, 184 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: I really don't either. I Mean, when you think about 185 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: those guys and Ross and everybody else being injured, you know, 186 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: you hope that players emerge and make more and more plays, 187 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to David, Sills and Pettis. But 188 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: as of right now, I don't see any of those 189 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: guys that have really stepped up that you know, think 190 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: that when they're out there with number eight, that this 191 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: is a guy that we can depend on and who's 192 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: going to be consistent, because we truly haven't seen that 193 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: throughout the entire training camp. All right, let's get to 194 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: the beef of this now, because the offensive line is 195 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: where it all starts. We saw the starters do a 196 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: lot of work during the week. In the joint practice 197 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: today we wound up seeing left to right Barton, Wiggins, Harrison, Lawson, 198 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: and Slade, with only Haggie and Burton as the two 199 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: other lineman who dressed hard to get much of an 200 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: evaluation from all of this, but I will say it 201 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: was quite clear that Joe Judge has got guys who 202 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: are fighting on the back of the depth Giants, no 203 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: doubt about it. I think Jonathan Harrison did a nice 204 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: job and being stout in the middle. I think Kenny 205 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: Wiggins not only in some of the down blocks and 206 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: zone schemes, but pulling open up some holes. I wanted 207 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: to see how Ted Larson did today. Obviously he's only 208 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: been on the Giants for a week. They didn't play 209 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: before that Jets game, but he's a veteran. He could 210 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: change around the terminology and This is a big game 211 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: for him and moving forward, especially with the Giants and 212 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: Dave get him and the Joe Judge looking to figure 213 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: out what's the best combination up front, but who are 214 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: going to be the valuable backups, especially with Ted Larson 215 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: playing both guards in center position. We know that they're 216 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: gonna turn this roster around and do as much as 217 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: they need to with all these joint practices, with these 218 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: preseason games, the eyes aren't only on preseason games. With 219 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: the amount of joint practices taking place weekend and week out, 220 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: you're not only competing up against the guys on your team, 221 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: but all thirty one other teams as well. Let's talk 222 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: about the joint practices with the Browns because Nate Solder 223 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: kind of on load management, you know, didn't do a 224 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: whole lot. Uh, Shane Lem you didn't do a whole lot, 225 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: same situation for him. But I thought that Thomas and 226 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: Hernandez and Gates did very well in those practice sessions, 227 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And I think that's the one 228 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: great thing about going up against the defensive line for 229 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. They run their scheme on the defensive 230 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: side of the ball much differently. Their inside defensive tackles 231 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: are looking to bullrush and press the pocket, and those 232 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: guys on the outside like Jadeveon Clowney and Miles Garrett 233 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: are looking to get up field and run the hoop. 234 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: Compared to our defensive line inside it's looking to split 235 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: aut but maintain gap discipline. And on those outside edges, 236 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: you're looking to get that rush, but you don't want 237 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: to overrun the arc, and you want to flatten out 238 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: and press back into the quarterback to get him off 239 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: of the spot. So the fact that they got the 240 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: experience up against this defense and this defensive line specifically 241 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: on how they work is only gonna bode well for 242 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: him during the season. But you're right, Will Hernand as 243 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: you could see during the off season, he's leaned down 244 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. You could see his technique and his fundamentals, 245 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: and his feet underneath him, his hands and his feet 246 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: tied together. Instead of times in the past world we'd 247 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: see him over aggressive punching and get out of balance 248 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: and getting pulled through. Andrew Thomas, the one thing I 249 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: will say about him is he is firing his hands. 250 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: He's way more confident. He's starting to fight where you 251 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: restart and redirect the defensive end, keeping an inside number landmark. 252 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: Those are all things that last year without having an 253 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: off season getting thrust right into the fire as left tackle. 254 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when the adversity hits, unfortunately, you revert 255 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: back to some bad habits. He hasn't been doing that 256 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: this gamp. Well, it looks to me like he's got 257 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: much more confidence. Knowing that he's in two is a 258 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: pro because remember when he used to cheat on his 259 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: feet with his sets all the time. To me, that 260 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: was almost counterproductive because he was getting beat and then 261 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: he was making it worse. And that's one thing that 262 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: I love what Joe Judge did with the offensive line 263 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: to bring in Rob sale Ben Wilkerson and then to 264 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: bring Pat Flaherty back my offensive line coach. Any time 265 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: you see the offensive line during into drill, individual drills, 266 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: or any time that they're away from team drills, they've 267 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: got a coach hands on going through each and every 268 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: fundamental that they need to continue to own it on, 269 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: whether it's double team zone blocks, pass protection. They're getting 270 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: all the individual and attention needed in order to make 271 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: sure that come through when it comes to the game time. 272 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people say, trust your technique, Well, 273 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: what does that mean when adversity hits and now all 274 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden you've got somebody ripping off of the 275 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: edge and you're only in your second kick. Are you 276 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: gonna be disciplined enough to take that third kick to 277 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: make sure you get to cut off an intersection angle? 278 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: Are you gonna revert back and turn that outside shoulder 279 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: and be a turnstyle? Those are the things that they've 280 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: worked on this entire camp, And be honest, without Clowney 281 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: and Garrett practicing against them this week, even though it 282 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: was the Brown scheme without those two superstars, or at 283 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: least presume superstars, I think that was probably a confidence builder, 284 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: because if you go up against those guys and they 285 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: beat you, now, that's gonna crack your confidence. I get that. 286 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: But at the same time, in order to be the best, 287 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: you've got to play up against the best, and they're 288 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: gonna challenge you not only with speed, but their ability 289 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: to turn speed into power and bull rush you and 290 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: use different hands so that your timing isn't the exact same. 291 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: So it may have been a confidence booster, but even 292 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: with that, you want to play up against the best 293 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: and challenge yourself, because that's what's gonna not only bring 294 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: the best out of you, but give you the game 295 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: experience that you're gonna need to play on Sundays. Let's 296 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: flop it over the defense. We have some time remaining 297 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: the defensive line. I thought, believe it or not, David 298 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: Moa might have been one of the more active alignment 299 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: in this game against the Browns, But during the course 300 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: of the week I thought Leonard Williams had a nice 301 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: week in Brown's practice. Leonard Williams was completely unblockable at times, 302 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: even by a Cleveland Brown's offensive line that is one 303 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: of the top three in the league. He's and so 304 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: efficient with this technique and his ability to read guards, 305 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: whether it's zone, whether it's a power scheme. More importantly 306 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: on the back side of place, his ability to either 307 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: penetrate through double teams or to be able to take 308 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: great angles so he can't get cut off by a 309 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: guard or a tackle. He had how many tackle for 310 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: a loss this week because he was running flat down 311 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage untouched. And when you have that 312 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: happening up front, that allows Blake Martinez and these wrong 313 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: linebackers to run sideline to sideline. And remember in these 314 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: joint practices we're seeing more physicality in contact in the 315 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: trenches and Danny Shelton again proves that he's very tough 316 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: to move. It's tough to move Danny Shelton. If he 317 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: gets his feet in the ground and has leverage, you 318 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: are not moving him from point A to point B 319 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: up against his own will very familiar with this scheme, 320 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: not only from his time in New England, but now 321 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: having his time with Patrick Graham again. You know, he 322 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: understands that he is a two gapper. He's meant to 323 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: eat up things at the line of scrimmage, hold off 324 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: double teams and like I said, uh, those are the 325 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: types of guys that coach Flaherty would be like, hey, 326 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: you've got a four clift amount of there. Danish Shelton 327 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: has his feet in the ground and leverage, you're not 328 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: fork lifting them anywhere. Let's look at the linebackers for 329 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: a minute again. The Giants did not use any of 330 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: their starters in the game against the Browns. From the 331 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: backup perspective, was there anything you saw there that really 332 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: stuck out? Well, the thing that we know is that 333 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: Cartercoughland is playing multiple positions. They're trying to show his 334 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: versatility in the one area where you think about is 335 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: is with Take Crowder and Reggie Ragland. You know, both 336 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: of these players we've seen be stout up against the run, 337 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: but they've been challenged when it comes to coverage. So 338 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: those are the areas that we're going to continue to 339 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: needed uh to watch and and focus on to see 340 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: if they are those valuable guys that can be backups 341 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: when it came to starters. In Blake Martinez, there were 342 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: times during practice that he was running through holes because 343 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: he identified a pre snap and tapped the running back 344 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: in the backfield to where Kevin Stefanski was just shaking 345 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: his head because there's nothing you can do about it. 346 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: His ability to read things and pre pre diagnose him, 347 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: but more importantly, his ability to communicate it at the 348 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: same time. That's something that's invaluable due to defense and 349 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: that it is not only to the front end but 350 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: to the back end. The other backer who had a 351 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: really good practice in Cleveland or two practices was Lorenzo Carter, 352 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: who was especially good on the second day and in 353 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: the game. Oshane Ziminez showed some nice ability and the 354 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: pass was coming up with a sack. The great thing 355 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: you see how the Lorenzo Carter is zero hesitation or 356 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: mental awareness of his injury that he's coming off of. 357 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: You see him being explosive at the line of scrimmage. 358 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: There were times where they were trying to run an 359 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: outside zone or David and Joko, who is not a 360 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: small individual, Lorenzo Carter was booked adding him at the 361 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: point of attack and forcing him everything and everything inside 362 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: as well as his pass rush moves. O'Shane Zimmins. We 363 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: know he's not the biggest body guy, but at the 364 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: same time, he's got to do a much better job 365 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: of being slippery with his hands. The bendon reached those 366 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: edges in order to get around those long offensive tackles. 367 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: So he's a player that we know that if he 368 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: continues to work on those secondary moves and can combat 369 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: of offensive tackles first moves, that's where things can really 370 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: open up for him. Much like what we saw on 371 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: the first day against the Browns during that practice session, 372 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: the Giants secondary had a much better second day today. 373 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: We did not see any of the starters, but we 374 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: saw all the backups. In fact, it was McKinney and 375 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: Love at the safety's homes and Madre Harper at the corners. 376 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: What did you see from these guys in the game, 377 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: because we pretty much know who the starting four is 378 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: going to be in the backfield. Well, I love Julian Love. 379 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: He is the overworked under It was busy guy. He 380 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: is busy. He can play all the spots and he 381 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: does the dirty work and doesn't get the recognition for it. 382 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney obviously, he got a late start to his 383 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: season last year due to the injury. Didn't come back 384 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: to week eleven, so he's continuing to get reps. And 385 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: one of the greatest things behind them is is Logan 386 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: Ryan being able to be hands on to really get 387 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: the xs and os and make sure that they're up 388 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: to speed with everything. So I love what they're bringing. 389 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: Bradberry had an unbelievable week at practice, obviously once again 390 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: going up again. Great talent on the opposite side of 391 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: the ball. And Dora Jackson is another one. You wouldn't 392 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: think that he is a new player on this Giant's defense. 393 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: He fits right in. He's part of the personality and 394 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: that's the one great thing that you see about this 395 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Giants ball team. They're really getting that cohesion and coming 396 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: together on both sides of the ball. One thing that 397 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: was also noticeable during the game is that Rhodarius Williams, 398 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: the rookie out of Oklahoma State, continues to play multiple positions. 399 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: They hit him back is the deep safety in this game. Yeah, 400 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: he played corner, he played slock corner, he played safety. 401 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: And the more you they can utilize them and playing 402 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: in different spots and get experience, it's only going to 403 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: help them on the back end. Because Paul, you and 404 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: I both know one of the issues for the Giants 405 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: defense down the stretch. It wasn't the defensive line, it 406 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: was the inability to play man coverage on the back 407 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: end and have that competency before the pass rush and 408 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: the pass coverage. Because we always know what's the best 409 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: pass rush is a coverage. What's the best coverage is 410 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: a pass rush. So when you can get those two 411 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: things working in tandem, that's what works to the best 412 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: benefit of your defense. And what Patrick Graham can show 413 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: pre snap to what he's gonna run post snap in coverages. 414 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: Let's quickly talk about special teams before we kick it 415 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: out of here. I thought there were two guys who 416 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: kind of made themselves noticeable in the game. Uh, Matt Cole, 417 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: the little guy who was They list him at five ten, 418 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: but I don't think that he is maybe on stilts. Uh. 419 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: He got down there a couple of times in kick coverage, 420 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: and I thought Nico Laylos also did. Although he did 421 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: miss one tackle there, but you know what, he bounced 422 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: back and made another one. And the one thing that 423 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: you love is that a learned from it. He rapped 424 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: through and ran through the second one, and you could 425 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: see him flying down there. And as a Princeton player, 426 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: that's you know, one time he's not Princeton ivy let 427 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: Dartmouth Dartmouth guy. You've got to be able to contribute 428 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: on special teams in order to make this roster, and 429 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: for Matt Cole to be able to come in and 430 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: just do it sparingly in practice and to have him 431 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: out in the game to make two tackles as a 432 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: gun around the punt team, and then to come out 433 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: there and make some plays on the defensive side of 434 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: the ball, whether it was a pass breakup or tackle. 435 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that you can utilize as 436 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: a developmental player who can bring a lot of value 437 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: to your football team down the stretch. Okay, David, as 438 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: we wrap things up, I'm gonna ask you to be 439 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: Joe Judge for just a second. You've got one week 440 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: of joint practices to go in Foxburg with the Patriots 441 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: and one final preseason game during which you're starters will 442 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: play probably a half, maybe a little longer. What do 443 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: you still want to see? What are the kinds of 444 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: decisions and questions that are still giving you trouble? Well, 445 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: Number one, I just want to see that right side 446 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: of the offensive line with Matt Parrott and with Nate's 447 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: Solder compete and I want to see who's gonna step 448 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: up and rise to the challenge. As he said, Nate's 449 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: solder has been on a pitch council, hasn't been getting 450 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: a ton of reps. And the one thing with Matt 451 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: is is when he's on, he's on, but he hasn't 452 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: been consistent. The one thing that he needs to do 453 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: is be more aggressive. He's got to be more physical 454 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: with his hands and it needs to show more confidence 455 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: in his pass sets. And then for me, turned into 456 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. The one thing that 457 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: I continue to harp about is is who is going 458 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: to be those backup defensive linemen and defensive vents that 459 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: can contribute to the pass rush. We know about Dexcel Lawrence, 460 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: we know about Leonard Williams, Lorenzo Carter's playing well, but 461 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: who out of that next group of Batchel guys can 462 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: be those rotational players because you know on the defensive side, 463 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: you're at your best when it's almost like hockey line. 464 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: Ships at the defensive line, two in, two out, and 465 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: you can keep those bodies fresh. David Deal, two times 466 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion with the Giants, will see you this 467 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: week in practice. Can't wait. That'll do it for this 468 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: edition of the Giants Huddle. You can catch it on 469 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: Giants dot Com and the Giants Mobile app. Until next time, 470 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm Poulatinos. So long, everybody,