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Speaker 1: just think that, you know, one more season with him

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Speaker 1: know you've got Ronnie Stanley coming back. Um, you know

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Speaker 1: the draft. F Obviously Bozeman is gonna start somewhere on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. He's to me, is telling you a

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Speaker 1: really good player. They could really have a strong offensive

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Speaker 1: ball a lot, And yeah, what's wrong with having Orlando

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl run. I'm not saying you know that he's

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Speaker 1: gonna change his mind and then say, Okay, I want

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Speaker 1: to stay long term. And again, I would be shocked

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Speaker 1: and if he is traded, I think the Ravens are

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be like, well, wow, even though we've lost

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Speaker 1: or Lando, now we've got a chance to really do

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, he's He's the type of guy that if

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Speaker 1: you want him, you're going to give me something pretty

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Speaker 1: special in return. I completely agree with that. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if it's just a question of desire in terms of

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Speaker 1: do you want or land to me, that's an easy yes,

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Speaker 1: that's an obvious yes. His ability to play both sides

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Speaker 1: and be really good, it's just is rare, So I

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Speaker 1: would love to have him. Um but if you know,

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Speaker 1: but he obviously seems to want to have a chance

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Speaker 1: to play left tackle. And I think the other part

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Speaker 1: of that too, that could fit factor into the calculations

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley's recovered because he may have a chance to

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Speaker 1: maybe for a portion of the season play left tackle.

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Speaker 1: Here for Ronnie where to not be a hund percent

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Speaker 1: at the start of the season. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be the case. Raymons expect that to be

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Speaker 1: the case, but I'm sure that's gonna factor in to

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Speaker 1: that decision making process. So there's still a lot that

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Speaker 1: that's go that's that's going on behind the scenes. Without question,

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Speaker 1: that's just how the nature of the off season. It

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Speaker 1: is certainly fluid, you know, that's kind of a word

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Speaker 1: that everyone likes to throw out. It's it's certainly very

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Speaker 1: fluid um. And you know, now once we're getting into April,

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Speaker 1: the calendar is gonna turn here in a couple of

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Speaker 1: days and we're gonna be diving deep into all the

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Speaker 1: draft talk, all the different prospects, all these different guys

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Speaker 1: who can land in Baltimore. And that's fun. That's fun

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Speaker 1: to discuss. Uh. And I think that, you know, one

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Speaker 1: thing that we've seen from America the Costa since he's

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Speaker 1: taken over a general manager, is that he is aggressive.

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Speaker 1: He's been. He was aggressive throughout this process, adding Zeitler

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Speaker 1: early on, getting Sammy Watkins, reportedly being in the mix

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Speaker 1: on just about every other free agent receiver, reportedly being

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Speaker 1: in the mix for some of the pass rushers. So

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Speaker 1: the Ravens have been linked to people. He's proven the ability,

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Speaker 1: in the in the desire, and the willingness to make trades.

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Speaker 1: He's done that. So could that happen between now and

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Speaker 1: the Draft, whether it's with Orlando or somebody else, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: rule that out. So I think that he's gonna turn

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Speaker 1: over every stone to make this team better. And I

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Speaker 1: think that that's kind of an exciting It makes things

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Speaker 1: exciting in the off season. So we're hoping to get

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Speaker 1: a chance to talk with Sammy this week. Um, hopefully

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Speaker 1: he's heads to Baltimore and you know, gets the contracts signed,

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Speaker 1: gets that physical done, makes puts the you know, puts

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Speaker 1: the ink on paper, and everything's done deal and at

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Speaker 1: that point we'll hopefully get a chance to talk with

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Speaker 1: him and bring you that conversation later this week. So um,

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Speaker 1: that's it for us, Cliff, thanks in for filling in.

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Speaker 1: Always good to have you on and uh we will

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Speaker 1: be back with you again, hopefully later this week. M