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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It's our two on this Monday. Come on in,

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Speaker 1: stay a while. Everybody's here, including Fritzie. How are your brackets?

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Speaker 1: I'm just glad that I climbed out of the basement here.

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Speaker 1: Jim Beheim is leading our celebrity bracket Challenge.

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Speaker 2: Last place.

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Speaker 3: Rebecca Lowe from NBC, she's the great host of the

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Speaker 3: Premier League. Chase Daniel, Jerome Bettis, Marvin Prince, and Jay J.

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Speaker 3: Watt round out the bottom five. But Marvin, you got

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Speaker 3: Connecticut winning, You still got a chance to have some

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Speaker 3: respect here when it's all said and done.

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Speaker 2: That's the only respect I need. That's you. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: win the tournament? You're fun? What about Kentucky? And are

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Speaker 2: you nervous at all about what Connecticut?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you'll give us the other three teams and then

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Speaker 3: you'll take Connecticut.

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Speaker 2: You can have it. Take a pie of the face.

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Speaker 3: Does anybody want that bet with Marvin? Anybody want to

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Speaker 3: take Alabama, NC State, Purdue, Seaton.

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Speaker 5: It feels like if Yukon doesn't win, it would be

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Speaker 5: a colossal, colossal failure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And that being said, Hell.

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Speaker 5: No, Okay, not even close, but it feels like it

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Speaker 5: would be just one of the greatest I don't know

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Speaker 5: collapses you can think of.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, I have a better punishment for Marvin if

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Speaker 6: you kind of lose it, which I don't want.

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Speaker 2: You kind of lose Marvin.

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Speaker 6: I know how much you love them, But like you

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Speaker 6: get a pie in the face is okay, But you

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Speaker 6: dress very well as far as like matching. What if

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Speaker 6: you had to either dress like Fritzi Er dress in

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Speaker 6: Syracuse gear for the day or a team you don't like, or.

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Speaker 2: Well, how about the team that beats team to beat.

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Speaker 6: Yu Kon, you have to wear their gear to on

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Speaker 6: the next day.

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Speaker 7: I'd rather take a lemon meringue pie in the face

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Speaker 7: with my eye's open, okay.

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Speaker 3: Connecticut first team in NCAA tournament history to win tenecutive

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Speaker 3: games by at least thirteen points happened. The previous mark

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Speaker 3: by the way six consecutive games. Indiana did it back

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Speaker 3: in the early eighties and LaSalle did it in the

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Speaker 3: mid fifties. But the streak of ten consecutive wins by

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Speaker 3: double digits also an all time record, and the previous

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Speaker 3: mark was nine straight. That was Michigan State back in

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Speaker 3: two thousand and two thousand and one, Status.

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Speaker 2: The Day sat the day, best stat of the day,

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Speaker 2: stat of the day comes, here comes that what stat

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Speaker 3: Stat of the Day brought to you by Penine America,

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Speaker 3: the official trading cards of this program. First hour, Well,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what we solved, but we spent some

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Speaker 3: time with Bruce Pearl at Auburn and he said, no,

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Speaker 3: he can't root for Alabama. Might be able to root

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Speaker 3: for the SEC to win the title, but not Alabama.

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Speaker 3: And we also have a controversy brewing or at least

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Speaker 3: on the back burner, maybe in the oven. And that

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Speaker 3: is the sandwich, the Elite eight that we have going on.

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Speaker 3: And now we have a play in game between a

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Speaker 3: chicken parm and a meatball parm. Yeah, s Twitter saying

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Speaker 3: that's the plate in game played in game. Love it,

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Speaker 3: love it, love it all right, it is. That's exactly

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Speaker 3: what I love though.

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Speaker 2: It's like my most favorite thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, We've got a plate in game Dan between a

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Speaker 5: meatball parm and a chicken parmy. Right now, early results

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Speaker 5: seventy three percent with a chicken parm.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a route really it is.

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Speaker 5: It's a rout essentially Virginia proving that meatballs does not

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Speaker 5: belong here. Okay, this is essentially what's happening right now

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Speaker 2: I also have who are you rooting? Fork?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right now? Forty six percent a.

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Speaker 2: Min Let's guess, Todd, who is America rooting for? God

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Speaker 2: be the wolf Pack? All right? Marvin?

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Speaker 4: N C State?

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Speaker 2: PAULI same NC State?

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Speaker 5: Yep, you guys would be with the forty six percent

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Speaker 5: of Cutty.

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Speaker 2: It's everybody's rooting for NC State. You know who's in

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Speaker 2: last Purdue? They would be in second. Okay Alabama? Correct?

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Speaker 5: Alabama only as seven percent of the vote.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, don't miss the biggest WrestleMania in history. Cody

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Speaker 3: up Saturday and Sunday. That'll be exclusively on Peacock. There

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Speaker 3: was an odd moment in the women's tournament. This was

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Speaker 3: in Portland, Oregon. The NC State Wolfpack had a win

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Speaker 3: the three point lines were different distances at the top

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Speaker 3: statement during halftime of the game. NCAA notified the three

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Speaker 3: point lines on the court at the Modus Center in

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Speaker 3: Portland not the same distance. So they've been doing this

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Speaker 3: four regional semifinal games on Friday and Saturday. Then it

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Speaker 3: and go all right, all right, you okay, yeah, I'm okay,

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Speaker 3: and they decided that they were going to continue to

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Speaker 3: five inches. So twenty two feet one.

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Speaker 2: Point seven inches is that right to Pauline? Correct? Okay?

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Speaker 2: I said, there'd be no math on here.

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Speaker 3: So they somehow they measured it and didn't measure it

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Speaker 3: have to wait until they mark the three point line correctly. See,

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Speaker 3: you had the fans already there. Coaches are out there

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Speaker 2: What do you do in a situation? I mean, how

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Speaker 3: The people nobody's taken blame for this, but how do

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Speaker 3: you have people who do this, that's what they do

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Speaker 2: You know this standard one. So yes, Ton, if you're.

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Speaker 7: In charge of the event or the game promotion or

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Speaker 3: I'm just surprised nobody saw it leading up to yesterday

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Speaker 3: I don't know if somebody said, oh, I'm not going

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, five games were played in the Portland Regional

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but sometimes it becomes you know where you are

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Speaker 3: in those positions. There By the way, NC State has

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Speaker 3: fourteen losses, most by any team going into the Final

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Speaker 3: four all time. They've been a lot of fun and

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that they gained even more of a fan

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Speaker 3: Just didn't think they were a great team. Good team.

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Speaker 3: And if you want to have a player that you're

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Speaker 3: Cooper Flag is coming in. And if you want to

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Speaker 3: you're going to have that next year. The storylines for

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Speaker 3: the women's tournament awesome. It's almost like a final four.

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Speaker 3: You got USC against Connecticut and you have Iowa rematch

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Speaker 2: They're there for three years, four.

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Speaker 3: Years, some cases five years with an injury, and you're

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Speaker 3: at least aware the coaches. But these are star players.

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Speaker 3: Page Beckers is a star, Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, You

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Speaker 3: the weekend, which to me wasn't a hit piece. I mean,

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Speaker 3: And therefore I think a lot of people went into

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Speaker 3: it go WHOA, what is it? And then you go,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, not much here. You can go into

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Speaker 3: find a lot of things, and not pretty. Kim Moulkey, Okay,

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Speaker 3: she didn't like certain players, didn't approve of their sexuality, lifestyle,

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Speaker 3: Bob Knight. She's tough, she can be a bully, but

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Speaker 3: there are players who want to play for her, just

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Speaker 3: like there were players who wanted to play for Bob

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Speaker 3: of Indiana, you wanted to go play for Bob Knight.

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Speaker 3: But here's Kim Mulky on a big stage. The article

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Speaker 3: The LA Times had to modify an article that they

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Speaker 3: it was fair. LU They're not. It wasn't good versus evil.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing evil about LSU. If you said I got

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Speaker 3: a team that cares, plays hard and wins, don't you

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Speaker 3: want that? That's what they do. They play hard, they win.

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Speaker 3: You may not like the style, but they do win.

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Speaker 3: We're a bottom line sports society. How do you win?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. You win.

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Speaker 3: It's all that matters until you don't, and then that's

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Speaker 3: when people can dance on your grave. But if you

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Speaker 3: How many times do you hear a coach go we

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Speaker 5: that level yet. No, no, it's definitely it could.

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Speaker 3: Dave in Florida joining us now, Dave, what is on

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Speaker 9: Fit David Florida or Phoenix?

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Speaker 2: It was Phoenix, Florida.

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Speaker 10: Actually, Dave David Florida lived most of his life in

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Speaker 10: I'm a double grad of Yukon nineteen seventy two and

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Speaker 2: Day, Dave, Dave, Dave, I don't need your resume all.

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Speaker 10: Right, man. So as a Yukon grad and Yukon in

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Speaker 5: People have been asking about a lobster role, which I

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Speaker 2: There has to be a separation of breads.

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Speaker 2: You're the one. You're the ombudsman here.

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Speaker 5: And I'm making up these rules as we go for

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Speaker 3: Did stat of the Day Celebrity bracket Challenge all of that. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Okay,

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Speaker 3: More phone calls coming up, got people upset, upset about

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Speaker 5: People are very upset that I somehow I didn't really

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you just said that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right now, you've got your choice of four teams. Then,

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Speaker 3: See Webb has been there before, the member of the

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Speaker 3: What was the toughest thing to write about Seweb.

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Speaker 11: that I didn't get to do what I wanted. And

437
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 11: I learned that both in Country Day and Sacramento, where

438
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 11: Sacramento was someplace I did not want to go. It

439
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 11: was a trade on the table with the Lakers some

440
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 11: other things like that.

441
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 4: You know, I wanted to win. I called the time out.

442
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 11: I thought that having this trophy would be like, see, okay,

443
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 11: now y'all want to hear what I went through.

444
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 4: And it didn't happen.

445
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 11: That way, and I remember my mother saying to me,

446
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 11: you know, this is a blessing in Sacramento, and I

447
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 11: remember it probably being the only time in my life

448
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 11: I'm a mama's while I was like, wow, I did

449
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 11: not want to hear none of your homespun wisdom right now,

450
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 11: but it was right.

451
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 4: It was the biggest blessing for me. So yeah, I.

452
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 11: Don't know how I didn't go sideways down because one

453
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 11: crazy story is before my first AAU game, one of

454
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 11: my best friends got best friends. One of my closest

455
00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 11: friends was murdered and he was thirteen. I just thank

456
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 11: god I made it. The safety of a village, the

457
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 11: safety of good people around you, and wonderful discipline and

458
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 11: rules is definitely what kept me saying.

459
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Speaker 3: Talking to Hall of famers see Webb is a new

460
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Speaker 3: memoir will be out April fourth, Thursday, April fourth, By

461
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: God's Grace, thinking about you coming on the show, realizing

462
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 3: LSU women facing Iowa, and Race is playing a role

463
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: in this. When Michigan played Duke, Race played a role

464
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Speaker 3: in this. When you're in that moment, you're a freshman,

465
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 3: how do you process that that you know us against

466
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 3: the world Because Duke probably thought it was us against

467
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Speaker 3: the world from their perspective.

468
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Speaker 4: So, first of all, Baltimore, Barbie and Kateman. I love

469
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 4: that game.

470
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 11: It's the first year I probably know more women's names

471
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 11: than men's names, and that's Steph Curry because they're walking

472
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 11: a gym and out shoot any man in the world.

473
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Speaker 11: But when I say we were prepared for it, Dad,

474
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 11: you know, you know how my father worked at the

475
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 11: factory of Detroit for forty years. He was in the UAW.

476
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 11: He came from Mississippi and had to work on the farm. Like,

477
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 11: what could I complain about when I compared it to

478
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 11: his life, And so when we talk about racism or

479
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 11: other things, we knew it and we would have discussions

480
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 11: amongst ourselves. I mean, I don't know too many kids

481
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 11: that got praised in death threats at the age of

482
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 11: eighteen or nineteen like we did. But I think again,

483
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 11: it was our village. It was the coaches, it was

484
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 11: the great students around us. It was other friends, you know,

485
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 11: to let you live in that naivety where oh, it's

486
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 11: a death threat, but you have enough distraction, positive distraction,

487
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 11: to keep.

488
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: You going forward.

489
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Speaker 11: And I also think us being from Detroit, Chicago, and

490
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 11: other places where we had seen people not make it.

491
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Speaker 11: It's almost like the racism is way more than an emotion,

492
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 11: way more it hurts, It stops you physically, It spreads

493
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 11: a narrative that you don't want. It doesn't reinforce the

494
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 11: principles of your parents and other things. But however, from

495
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 11: Detroit and we knew that we were the underdogs in

496
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 11: life and that our job was to work harder, and

497
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 11: that in our position you almost had to be tempercent

498
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 11: better or work tempercent harder to get a fair narrative.

499
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 11: So I think our backgrounds prepared us for coming into

500
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 11: conservative areas that wasn't waiting for the youth, and it

501
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 11: was racism, Dan, but it was also the movement of

502
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 11: the time, Like everyone in our age group at that

503
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 11: time was kind of speaking out and standing up, whether

504
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 11: it was hip hop, TV shows and others. So we

505
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 11: also felt like we were in a larger community fighting

506
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 11: for that independence of being, having the freedom to be

507
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 11: who we wanted to be.

508
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 3: What is it like, though, to be us against the

509
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: world In your mind.

510
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 4: It's two sides, So.

511
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Speaker 11: Let's let's let's start with the less positive side.

512
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: It's lonely. Uh, you can't.

513
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Speaker 11: Express yourself because if you express yourself, your complaining, you're

514
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 11: talking to people that don't have enough context. In other words,

515
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 11: someone will say to you. I heard someone say this

516
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 11: to a friend of mine who played basketball and his

517
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 11: mother passed, but.

518
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 4: At least you got all the money.

519
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 11: If I was you, you know, and I'm thinking, what

520
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 11: the hell does that have to do with that? So

521
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 11: that can be a lonely place, and it can also

522
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 11: isolate you because if you keep getting frustrated enough you

523
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 11: don't want to bring people down, you also may have

524
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 11: survival's remorse and complaining to someone that doesn't have what

525
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 11: you have. Right, that's one side. That's the bad side.

526
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 11: Now the good side is so what it's the world?

527
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 11: Don't nobody love us anyway? It is what it is.

528
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 11: There are no excuses. What the baby's gonna do. I

529
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 11: don't know where that phrase came from, Dan, what the

530
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 11: Baby's gonna do, But that's been something I've held in

531
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 11: my life since a young guy. And I don't know

532
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 11: why whoever said it said it, but I got it.

533
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 11: It's like we're all on our own, and so if

534
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 11: you have that strength, but can keep the love and

535
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 11: the passion, then I think it can all work together.

536
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 11: Where I've seen people struggle is where that loneliness creates

537
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 11: bitterness and they become a person that they're not always

538
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 11: angry at things that didn't happen or them being in

539
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 11: that role of them against the world. So hopefully you

540
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 11: have enough context to be able to put things in

541
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 11: that proper place and address them when needed to be

542
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 11: when they need to be.

543
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: Now we have nil. Is it weird to see it

544
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: after what you went through at Michigan?

545
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 11: No, and Iolsta has to go to another level. So

546
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 11: even in Michigan, we would talk about how the INCA

547
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 11: was a was a five oh one c three. We

548
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 11: would talk about the fact that Nike brought gym shoes.

549
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 11: We picked out the Rachis have a wonderful story in

550
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 11: the book about we're the first team ever to.

551
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 4: Pick out the shoe that would leave college and things

552
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 4: like that.

553
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 11: So when we wore black socks and the next it

554
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 11: was two hundred and fifty thousand pair of black socks

555
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 11: reportedly sold. We turned our Nike shirts inside out the

556
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 11: next game. And these are things in the documentary and

557
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 11: other things I wish people would have talked about just

558
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 11: besides the dunks, because all the substance is always missed.

559
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 11: And what we went through, like the questions you're asking,

560
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 11: how how do you handle you against the world. You're

561
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 11: a bunch of eighteen year old knuckleheads, you don't even

562
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 11: still going through puberty.

563
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: How do you handle this?

564
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 11: And it was the seniors, it was the juniors, it

565
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 11: was everyone because we all were together, but we knew

566
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 11: from our influence. We didn't have cable when you were

567
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 11: doing Sports Center, so we didn't have cable in our

568
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 11: rooms and things. And so when we would go home

569
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 11: in the summer or travel and saw we went to

570
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 11: Yugoslavia at the time and other places at the time.

571
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 11: We saw that we had an impact around the world.

572
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 11: And there's a famous story of me and a reporter

573
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 11: who came to see me at Michigan and I was

574
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 11: with a football player and we didn't have enough to

575
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 11: get subway sandwich and some chips. And when that story

576
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 11: came out publicly, a lot of athletes around the country

577
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 11: really started hitting me and understanding the plight.

578
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 4: And so how was it was tough? It's not what

579
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: was said.

580
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 11: I addressed to Ed Martin and all that great stuff

581
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 11: in the book, so we did not avoid anything. I

582
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 11: finally had the context and time to talk about it.

583
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 11: But the end, I mean, it's it's unfair. Put it

584
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 11: like this. Before Bill Russell passed away. This is an

585
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 11: interview on TNT. I'm sure it'd be hard to find,

586
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 11: but he likened n c A A too very unsavory

587
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 11: practices that happened in America early and he was saying,

588
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 11: if you don't own your name, if you can't get paid,

589
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 11: then how do you move forward? So I'm glad to

590
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 11: see that we're moving forward. I love the NCAAA, I

591
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 11: love everything that's happening, but you know, there's a there's

592
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 11: a reckoning. There's a reckoning coming in, and I'm glad

593
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 11: that these young smart students hopefully are are galvanized and

594
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 11: hopefully work together so that no athlete is left behind.

595
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: And You've been generous with your time talking about the timeout,

596
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: what that meant to you naming your charity after that,

597
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: But I'm wondering the role that your parents played in

598
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 3: getting you to that point. To understand, Chris, this is

599
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: not going to define you. This is going to make

600
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: you even stronger.

601
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 11: That's why Dan I'm jealous as you get to interview

602
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 11: people you know from your level, because I can't imagine

603
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 11: how much insight you've gotten. I used to always watch

604
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 11: the old football documents or anything looking for that worst

605
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 11: point in life. Reggie Reggie White said this and came

606
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 11: back and played. I always looked for that. And so

607
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 11: with the time out. When I talk about God's grace

608
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 11: in the village, I call the time out. It's the

609
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 11: worst moment of my life. It's lonely. I'm a mama's boy.

610
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 11: I go home and get some mama's love. I'm the

611
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 11: Oh it's a five. I got brothers teasing me. My

612
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 11: neighborhood's bustling. Everything's great or everything's bad. I come in

613
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 11: and I have a letter, first of all, from Bill Clinton,

614
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 11: a handwritten letter saying, you know, get up. I get

615
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 11: these shoes from Jackie joined the Kursey, the shoes that

616
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 11: she wore in the Olympics and won as a gold medal.

617
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: I had so much love and.

618
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 11: Support from people around the world that that really sustained me.

619
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 11: But my mother came in the living room and she said,

620
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 11: and my mother's she doesn't have vanity plates. She doesn't drive.

621
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 11: My mother is the most humble woman you would ever see,

622
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 11: and she goes, look what I got, baby, And it

623
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 11: was a time It was a license plate and they

624
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 11: said time out. Yeah, you know whatever that means whatever

625
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 11: the devilment for bad, godman for good, and we're gonna.

626
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: Do some great things. And what was so great?

627
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 11: She was a teacher, So her and my aunt Charlene

628
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 11: had already planned these charity events coming up to the draft.

629
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 11: You know, I called the time out around April fourth,

630
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 11: April fifth. The draft is June thirtieth, Like, how can

631
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 11: that happen in Detroit? Like I had to research how

632
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 11: the hell did the draft get to be in Detroit,

633
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 11: you know?

634
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: And how was Shacks draft in Port? Like what's going on?

635
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 11: But for my mother saying that to every year a

636
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 11: child was born in the Detroit hospital, we would give

637
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 11: the families books we wanted to combat reading disparities and

638
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 11: things like that. And when I saw my mom do

639
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 11: it, it was like, how can you be ashamed? Maybe you

640
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 11: better go ahead and do your thing. And she doesn't

641
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 11: care about basketball. So that's that's how my mom helped

642
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 11: to find me my father. You know, cowboys give you

643
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 11: a pat on the back son, it's okay, and you

644
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 11: know when it rains, get wet something like that.

645
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 4: You know. But my mom was like, no, we're really

646
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 4: gonna do this.

647
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 11: So I thank God for my parents because I don't

648
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 11: I don't know how I would have been able to

649
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 11: frame those worst moments if I would have had people

650
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 11: that were not strong emotionally and stable.

651
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: How do you thank your parents?

652
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 11: All right, So there's no way to do it. My

653
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 11: father he gave my father. He's so okay. I thank

654
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Speaker 11: my father. I saw him cry when I when we

655
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Speaker 11: did that, Bill Russell interviewed and Bill Russell walked over

656
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Speaker 11: to him and said, you know, you did a great job.

657
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 11: You're good man, and a whole bunch of things, and

658
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 11: that was I didn't do that, but I paid for

659
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Speaker 11: his ticket to come with me.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say I did that.

661
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Speaker 11: But so it's the day before draft and I called

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Speaker 11: my dad. I said, Magic Johnson's coming over tomorrow. He's

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Speaker 11: coming over in the morning.

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Speaker 4: Man. You know, police had the house clean and stuff

665
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Speaker 4: like that. He wants to talk to you.

666
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Speaker 2: About all this.

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Speaker 11: My mother calls me, no, lie, at like six in

668
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Speaker 11: the morning. She's like, what did you tell your dadd

669
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Speaker 11: he's cutting the grass. So I have my father plumped up.

670
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Speaker 11: So the whole neighborhood, you know, the whole neighborhood is

671
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 11: like hiding and looking out. So I go to the

672
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Speaker 11: Cadillac dealership and I walk into Cadillac dealership and everybody

673
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 11: starts clapping.

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Speaker 4: And it wasn't for me.

675
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Speaker 11: It was because they knew my dad that worked the

676
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 11: Cadillac all the years and never had a cadillact.

677
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Speaker 4: So Nike.

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Speaker 11: A long story short, I get the car driving up

679
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Speaker 11: on the lawn, which is a cardinal sin in our house.

680
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 11: So he comes point, what's wrong with you? I said, Dad,

681
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 11: look and I throw him the keysy smile and everybody's

682
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 11: looking at him, and he just gets in the car

683
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 11: real school, that drives off around the block and he

684
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 11: comes back and goes, when is magic coming? So I think,

685
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 11: you know, it's definitely gifts and things like that, but

686
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Speaker 11: I think I think the biggest way to repay them

687
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Speaker 11: is just to let them know the impact the small things,

688
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 11: the times when they work, yelling, punishing, disciplining. That I

689
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 11: heard what they said, and not only did I hear it,

690
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 11: I believe it, and I took it in and so

691
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 11: hopefully the stories that I tell, hopefully reminding them that

692
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Speaker 11: I know I would not be strong without their guidance.

693
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Speaker 11: Hopefully that's enough for them, because I could never detain them.

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Speaker 2: There great to talk to you, look forward to reading

695
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Speaker 2: the book.

696
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Speaker 4: Thank you, you know man, Thank you, Davi Manving.

697
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Speaker 3: That's Chris Webber, hall of Famer's new memoir is called

698
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: By God's Grace. It'll be released Thursday, April fourth. Just

699
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Speaker 3: take a break back after this.

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Speaker 3: The media was waiting for Nicola Jokic the Nuggets Center

705
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: yesterday and he shows up the press conference late. And

706
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Speaker 3: this is why he showed up late.

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Speaker 8: He's amazing. No, I just watched it. Actually, they're not

708
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 8: supposed to make it right and something. And I think

709
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 8: he's so skilled, especially lefty. I love to be lefty

710
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 8: and like it seems like teammates like to play with him,

711
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Speaker 8: So gotta be a good guy.

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Speaker 3: He loves DJ Burns. He's watching NC State against Duke

713
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 3: and he's The media is waiting for and he shows

714
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Speaker 3: up late.

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Speaker 2: You can't help but love some.

716
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Speaker 3: But now, first of all his size, but has so

717
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: much athleticism and so much touch and the ability great passer,

718
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 3: the extremely talented passer there, and it like he had joy.

719
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Speaker 2: And I thought the description was apt.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday, I know if it was Bill Raftery or it

721
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 3: was Grant Hill who said he's kind of like Zach

722
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: Randolph with Shaq's smile, because Zach with left hander, didn't

723
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Speaker 3: jump really high, but still was a skilled big man.

724
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Speaker 3: But that enthusiasm that DJ had during the game, and

725
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: he kept saying that Philipalski can't guard me. He'd come back,

726
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: you know, he'd spin and beating baseline or a little

727
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 3: floater and it didn't matter. He just kept shaking his

728
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: head like, can't guard me. And it makes you wonder

729
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: how they lose fourteen games. That's what I always when

730
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Speaker 3: I see a team that's really good in the tournament,

731
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Speaker 3: I go.

732
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Speaker 2: How did you lose fourteen?

733
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Speaker 3: Because they seem to have it right now, like that's

734
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Speaker 3: the team you don't want to play, just because now

735
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: Connecticut you don't want to play either. It just NC

736
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Speaker 3: State shouldn't be here. They were an eleven seed, and

737
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: that's where they have nothing to lose. I mean, Connecticut

738
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Speaker 3: has pressure because they're supposed to win. NC State doesn't

739
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Speaker 3: know better. A couple of phone calls. By the way,

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Speaker 3: I've known seaweb for a long long time, and I

741
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: always appreciate somebody coming on who's honest with the audience.

742
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Speaker 3: So you understand why I'm having them on, and they

743
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: don't waste anybody's time. I want stories. I want you

744
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: to tell me something about you or that moment in

745
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: the Fab five when you play Duke the time out

746
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: and sharing while talking about your parents, because sometimes that

747
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: gets lost. Yeah, especially you know in the African American community,

748
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 3: like the role your parent or parents can play and

749
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: can sometimes make or break you. That they understood there

750
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Speaker 3: his mom is an educator. We're going to send you

751
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: to this school. We don't want you to get sidetracked here.

752
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: I didn't want to go to Sacramento. No, you're going

753
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: to play in Sacramento. The timeout. No, we'll make something up.

754
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: Like having that guidance is so important, so impressive, and

755
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 3: what it's made him into as a person. You can

756
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Speaker 3: look back to what here's his dad, you know, an

757
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Speaker 3: auto worker and then he goes out and buys him

758
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Speaker 3: the car that his dad works on at the plant.

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Speaker 2: Pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: Let's see Paul in North Carolina. Hi Paul, thanks for

761
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Speaker 3: holding what's on your mind today? Hey Paul, Hey.

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Speaker 4: Dan, good morning?

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Speaker 9: How about that with the with the sandwiches chickpar over

764
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Speaker 9: meat parm real? Questions asked Dan real quick. As we know,

765
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Speaker 9: college basketball is and athletics are shifting constantly. Taking the

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Speaker 9: four teams of the final quarter, they each have very

767
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Speaker 9: niquely constructed rosters. Purdue very young, dominant big man versus

768
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Speaker 9: nc State for graduate transfers. On the other side, you

769
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Speaker 9: have Alabama four seniors that are all transfers with one

770
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Speaker 9: recruited player versus Yukon with three young players and two

771
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Speaker 9: senior transfers. We are going to pick one that represents

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Speaker 9: where you think is going to be the strength of

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Speaker 9: college of basketball. What would you choose?

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Speaker 3: I think it's Connecticut right now because we've seen it.

775
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Speaker 3: You know it's worked at a very high level. I

776
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Speaker 3: would not be recruited. I would not base everything on

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Speaker 3: recruiting an eighteen year old that I hope, or I

778
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Speaker 3: think or has the potential. I would I mean Dalton

779
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Speaker 3: Connect at Tennessee. I mean he had quite a few

780
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Speaker 3: stops along the way. DJ Burns third stop. So I

781
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Speaker 3: got to get somebody who's proven to me that they

782
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: can play, they're more mature. And yes, I might only

783
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Speaker 3: get him for one or two years. But I might

784
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Speaker 3: get that one and done guy only that one year,

785
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Speaker 3: maybe they stay a second year.

786
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Speaker 2: Zach Edie stayed.

787
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Speaker 3: Because he needed to polish up his game, and it's

788
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 3: you know, paid off for him. But I would definitely

789
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Speaker 3: have some recruits, but I wouldn't load up like Kentucky does.

790
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 3: I would look for the guys who you are experienced,

791
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: had some tournament experience. You get a junior or senior.

792
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: I think that's the recipe. Moving forward, Final Hour on

793
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: the way. We will give you our best and worst

794
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: of the weekend. And yes, there is controversy in the

795
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: Elite eight. Our Sandwich Tournament will update that as well

796
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Speaker 3: after this