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Speaker 1: Welcome to Is this a great game or what? And

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Speaker 1: our guests this week are the great Dan Shulman and

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Speaker 1: his son Ben, who are the first father son combo

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Speaker 1: ever to call a World Series game. Ben, Dan, this

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Speaker 1: is Jeff Say.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hey Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Thanks right, guys, Right, Well, I've said this to both

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Speaker 1: of you before, that the Shulman sound exactly alike on

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Speaker 1: the air, at least they do to me, and Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: and I sound exactly alike on the air. Also, the

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Speaker 1: difference is, you guys have a great voice and we

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Speaker 1: have the worst voice ever.

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 1: Have people said to you you and Ben sound an

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Speaker 1: awful lot alike.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I get some people who say, boy, you guys

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Speaker 4: are identical. I was driving around listening to the radio,

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Speaker 4: and I thought, why are they simulcasting TV on radio?

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Speaker 4: So I get that, But then I get also what

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Speaker 4: I think Ben and I think is a little more accurate.

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Speaker 4: It's not the voice so much. It's more just cadence

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Speaker 4: and inflection and pacing and that sort of thing. It's

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Speaker 4: one of those things like you're almost too close to it.

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Speaker 4: Like I can't look at pictures of my children and

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Speaker 4: tell who they look like. I have no idea about that.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's kind of the same with the

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Speaker 4: voice thing. So I let the outside world decide.

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Speaker 1: Right, and Ben, you must you get the same thing, right, Ben?

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Speaker 1: You sound like your dad?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think his voice has probably a

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Speaker 5: bit deeper than mine, although although if I look back

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Speaker 5: at the mid nineties videos, it might be higher than

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Speaker 5: mine was right now, So I watch out in twenty

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Speaker 5: fifty seven because who knows what might be what might

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Speaker 5: be coming out of.

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Speaker 6: That, Ben, I can only dream that my voice gets

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Speaker 6: a little bit deeper as I age, But clearly my

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Speaker 6: dad is an example that that doesn't really happen as

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Speaker 6: we age. Ben, I was the same way when it

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Speaker 6: comes to you know, I do radio, and so I

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Speaker 6: feel that my dad and I sound similar, But it's

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Speaker 6: the cadence. Do you ever catch yourself talking, you know,

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Speaker 6: to friends, family, whatever, and you go, oh, gosh, I

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Speaker 6: sound that's exactly how my dad would have said that.

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Speaker 2: I see myself doing it all the time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, probably on a broadcast once

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Speaker 5: or twice. It's happened where you know, he's you, Especially

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Speaker 5: at my stage of my career. You built so much

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Speaker 5: off your your influences because I'm still I think, developing

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Speaker 5: and figuring out my style at this point, and you know,

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Speaker 5: and obviously he is one of, if not the largest

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Speaker 5: influence on it. So I probably find myself every once

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Speaker 5: in a while making a call and thinking that kind

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Speaker 5: of sounds like a call that I've heard before or

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Speaker 5: that he's made before, But not too much in the

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Speaker 5: personal life at least, so it's we've we've restricted it

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Speaker 5: mostly to THEO and Ben.

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Speaker 1: I also noticed that your dad is much taller than

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Speaker 1: you now. Dad, I'm not much taller than anyone in

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Speaker 1: the world, and Jeffrey's taller than me. How do you

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Speaker 1: explain how your dad is what he's got? Dan, you

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Speaker 1: got to be six inches taller.

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Speaker 4: Right, I'm six' three? Ish ben is what five eleven five?

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Speaker 2: Eleven, yeah it's somewhere in.

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Speaker 5: That it's about half A FOOT'S i got the short,

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Speaker 5: STRAW i will, say because my oldest, Brother matt is pretty.

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Speaker 5: Tall he's like six he's a healthy six, two and

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Speaker 5: he grew, laid and from WHAT i, understand my dad

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Speaker 5: grew laid AND i. WAS i wasn't massive, early BUT

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Speaker 5: i was taller than some people, early AND i kind

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Speaker 5: of thought Maybe.

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Speaker 2: I'd be six six or something like. That it did

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Speaker 2: not work out that.

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Speaker 5: Way. UNFORTUNATELY i ended up with about the most average

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Speaker 5: height that a human being can.

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Speaker 1: Have And, dan your other, boys they're not in, Broadcasting

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Speaker 1: is that? Correct HAVE i got that?

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Speaker 4: Right that is? Correct So ben's oldest brother is an investment,

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Speaker 4: banker and brother number, two who's shorter Than, ben So

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Speaker 4: ben's not the, shortest is a video game. Programmer and

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Speaker 4: THEN i also have a six year old whose career

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Speaker 4: has yet to be, determined so we're working on.

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Speaker 5: That and he's shorter than me, too but he's gaining on, you.

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Speaker 1: All right. Now the other THING i love about The

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Speaker 1: shulmans is you guys are doing WHAT i have done With.

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey dan recommends movies For ben to, Watch Like ben

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Speaker 1: is too young to know these, Movies So, dan just

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Speaker 1: give us one. Movie you know which One i'm talking

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Speaker 1: about that you just hold your son and you have

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Speaker 4: Movie so this is years, ago AND i always Thought

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Speaker 4: The Princess bride was one of the five best Movies

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Speaker 4: i'd ever, seen and nobody can talk me out of.

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Speaker 4: That AND i haven't watched it in a couple of.

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Speaker 4: YEARS i don't have the memory That tim, has But

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Speaker 4: tim both loves that movie at least as much AS i,

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Speaker 4: do and can recite every. Line and if you haven't

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Speaker 4: told your Rate Billy crystal, story you're going to have to.

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Speaker 4: Tell And i'm sure you've Subjected jeff to this on many.

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Speaker 4: Occasions but When tim AND i used to see each

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Speaker 4: other more like we might just walk by each other

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Speaker 4: on the field and one of us might say there's

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Speaker 4: a big difference between mostly dead and all, dead and

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Speaker 4: then we would both laugh and just walk away because

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Speaker 4: this is what we, do and it's funny to, us

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Speaker 4: and we don't really care if it's funny to. Anybody

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Speaker 4: SO i think it was one of the movies THAT

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Speaker 4: i recommended That ben, watched BUT i don't know if

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Speaker 4: it resonated with him And. BEN i heard From tim

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Speaker 4: that he dropped a line on you a few years

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Speaker 4: ago from the look you got a very lukewarm response

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Speaker 4: about the.

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Speaker 5: Whole So i've seen, it but once so not ENOUGH i.

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Speaker 5: DID i watched it probably In march Or, april early

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Speaker 5: in the, season And i've seen, it But i'm Not

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Speaker 5: i'm not at a level yet WHERE i have the

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Speaker 5: script on recall at this, Point, right it's kind of.

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Speaker 4: Right that much of, INSANITY i tell, you.

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Speaker 6: And, dan after you Heard ben didn't have the right

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Speaker 6: response to the, line did you, say, well why don't

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Speaker 6: you give me a paper? Cut and we have said

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Speaker 6: that on this show so many. Times it's Like Walter

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Speaker 6: Johnson High. School and that are the two heaviest references

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Speaker 4: Podcast, right let me give you a funny. One So

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Speaker 4: Jay billis AND i are doing college basketball games in the,

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Speaker 4: winter And Jay billis loves the movie, Too and there

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Speaker 4: was a player a few years ago Named. ADMON i

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Speaker 4: think it Was, gilder not Even gilbert, like, right but

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Speaker 4: we would talk About, guilder but do it in The

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Speaker 4: Princess bride. Boys AND i think we actually said cliffs

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Speaker 4: of insanity once on the on the, air and only

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Speaker 4: two people in the world knew what the joke was

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Speaker 4: because you weren't watching the. Game, Tim but you, know

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Speaker 4: you get to a certain, agent it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 4: it's funny to anybody, else as long as it's funny to, You.

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Speaker 1: Right, Ben we used to have a we used to

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Speaker 1: have a. Thing It's Sports illustrated that like if only

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Speaker 1: four people get this obscure. Reference but at the really

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Speaker 1: funny clever, people we don't care about anybody. Else so

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the way it. Works. Ben one time

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Speaker 1: your dad said goodbye to, me all, right he was

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Speaker 1: instead of just saying see you, later he, said have

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Speaker 1: fun storming the.

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Speaker 2: Castle that's what.

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Speaker 1: He, said which is again another great. Line so The

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Speaker 1: Billy crystal, story Which dan has, mentioned Was Billy, crystal

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Speaker 1: who's like an all time favorite of mine because he's unbelievably.

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Speaker 1: Talented he can do, everything and he can. Hit he's

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Speaker 1: actually played baseball, before which has always impressed. Me so

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Speaker 1: he Hosted Sports center one, night this is about fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: ago and he was in the studio AND i was at,

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Speaker 1: sitting right next to, him but he interviewed, me and

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Speaker 1: at the end of the, INTERVIEW i just dropped a.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for bringing up such an unpleasant. Subject why

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Speaker 7: don't you give me a paper cut and put a

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Speaker 7: lemon juice in? It well, Closed and he was so

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Speaker 7: happy THAT i was Quoting Miracle max From The Princess

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Speaker 7: bride that when the thing was when the segment was,

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Speaker 7: over he looked at the co host and, Said Tim

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Speaker 7: god loved him in The.

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Speaker 1: Hobbit those are the. Days so, So, ben Has dan

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Speaker 1: given had your dad given you another movie to? Watch

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Speaker 1: LIKE i Told, jeff you have to Watch The Princess,

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Speaker 1: bride you have to Watch, parenthood you have to watch

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Speaker 1: Mister Hollands. Opus has he given you another movie as

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Speaker 1: a young guy to try to teach you the way

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Speaker 1: of the world so?

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Speaker 5: Recently probably? NOT i would PROBABLY i would guess THAT

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Speaker 5: i watch more movies than him at this. POINT i

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Speaker 5: don't know that for, facts but WHEN i was a,

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Speaker 5: kid all three of the Original Star. Wars definitely the

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Speaker 5: first Two Indiana. JONES i don't know if we made

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Speaker 5: it past the second, one but definitely the first Two

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Speaker 5: Indiana JONES dvd box, set and then what?

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Speaker 2: Else you.

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Speaker 5: KNOW i definitely watched My Auntie python as a, kid

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Speaker 5: AND i wouldn't have been the one to say let's

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Speaker 5: that was probably him and my older brother putting that.

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Speaker 2: On i'm trying to think of others big, oh and

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Speaker 2: a lot Of James.

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Speaker 5: Bond, actually when we watched A pharmom number Of James

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Speaker 5: bonds at one, point Like From russia With love and

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Speaker 5: a couple other. Ones, Yeah da movies probably, Probably, yeah you're,

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Speaker 5: Right rocky, one, two and, Three SO i Know rocky

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Speaker 5: four is a lot more, beloved but we tend to

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Speaker 6: Fan, well, dad do you Recognize dan's suggestions for his?

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Speaker 6: Son we've Got Star.

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Speaker 1: Wars Indiana.

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Speaker 6: Jones my dad had me watching Mister Holland's, opus Did Poets,

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Speaker 6: society all of these very sinky movies at like, eight

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Speaker 6: and he's, like what do you think that? Meant And i'm,

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Speaker 6: LIKE i don't, Know, Dad like gonna go play with

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Speaker 6: my whole cans, now, like what.

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Speaker 2: Are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Here, Yeah Tobers SKY i was pretty bad At October.

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Speaker 1: Sky i'd Take, kelly our daughter And jeffrey And kelly's

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Speaker 1: like six And jeffery's like. Four so after the, movie great,

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Speaker 1: movie by the, way if you haven't seen, It SO

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Speaker 1: i say To, kelly what was that movie? About And

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Speaker 1: jeffery said that was about a. Rocket that's all that

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Speaker 1: movie was. About it was about a.

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Speaker 4: Rocket.

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Speaker 1: Cool So, kelly after great, thoughts said that movie was

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Speaker 1: about a father and a son how cool is that

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Speaker 1: that a six year older far. That that's WHY i

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Speaker 1: recommend these thought. Movies, jeff and you're a very sensitive.

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Speaker 1: Kid jeff wasn't a great, athlete pretty good, athlete but he.

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Speaker 2: Was the star of all the school.

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Speaker 1: Plays he should be, watching Mister Hollins, Opus, Dan AM

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Speaker 4: This, no you're. RIGHT i THINK i maybe you're a

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Speaker 4: little deeper thinker THAN i. Am i'm a little more.

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Speaker 4: Superficial so we're out, there we're out there Doing rocky

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Speaker 1: Baseball, Yeah, ben how old were you when you DECIDED

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Speaker 2: Point it was just, like, HEY i love. SPORTS i

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Speaker 5: ATHLETE i was okay at, best and so CLEARLY i

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Speaker 4: Broadcaster, YEAH i was an, actuary which is someone who

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Speaker 4: That all that kind of stuff Is ben will tell, you,

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Speaker 4: Game like this is not like going To syracuse Or

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Speaker 4: two WHICH i wholeheartedly recommend if you're going to have a,

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Speaker 4: crisis have it before you have. Dependents make your career

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Speaker 4: change then and you, know it's a, long, long long.

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Speaker 4: know so by the Time ben was, around OBVIOUSLY i

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Speaker 6: Age, yeah WHEN i, Arrived So i'm class of twenty

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Speaker 6: fifteen At Syracuse. University, ben so we missed each other

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Speaker 6: by a couple of. Years but WHEN i, arrived my stupid,

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Speaker 6: Up at W jpzz eighty. NINE i did the same Morning,

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Speaker 6: vegas Now philly doing you, know music, radio so completely

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Speaker 6: oh that's gotta Be Dan shulman's. Son they sound exactly the.

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Speaker 6: Name Jeff Ki, kurjerkijin and somebody in the back of

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Speaker 6: There but there was been a lot of pressure at

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Speaker 5: Here it's a good, question, actually were you listening To

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Speaker 4: Back IF i wasn't doing a, GAME i always tried

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Speaker 4: and it's just, like you, know SO i Coached ben

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Speaker 4: in baseball, too and you're always more nervous as a

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Speaker 4: parent watching your child do something than if you're doing it.

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Speaker 4: YOURSELF i would much rather make a horrific career ending

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Speaker 4: mistake myself and have been make any kind of a.

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Speaker 4: Mistake and he was only eighteen, then as you, Said,

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Speaker 4: YEAH i THINK i listened to a lot of your.

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Speaker 4: Stuff and then one of the really fun THINGS i

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Speaker 4: think it happened twice was him doing A syracuse basketball

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Speaker 4: espn and just the two of us happening to be

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Speaker 5: This prep's way better than. Mine MAYBE i you like

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Speaker 5: end of the end of The syracuse. BENCH i probably

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Speaker 5: TIMES i think there Was Syracuse. Direxel congrats To syracuse

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Speaker 5: for getting that game ON, espn and then and Then

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Speaker 4: Know it.

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Speaker 2: Was it was an INTERESTING acc, tournament but it.

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Speaker 5: Was it was a good, time and, yeah those were

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Speaker 5: the same arena and do the game like a row

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Speaker 1: Dan do you ever Called ben and tell him that

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Speaker 4: Good, yeah we we do that a little. Bit SO

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Speaker 4: but you can find highlight clips online fairly easily. Afterwards

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00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 4: AND i not every. DAY i don't listen every. DAY

434
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 4: i probably listened two three times a week during the

435
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 4: regular season when they're playing six seven games a, week

436
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 4: and don't always reach. Out he'll tell you, this like

437
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 4: we have talks about, broadcasting, obviously but it's not like

438
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 4: every night it's, like, hey, man in the fifth, inning

439
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 4: what were you thinking? There like? That that doesn't happen

440
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 4: IF i hear. Something but it's honestly a handful of

441
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 4: times per season WHERE i might, say talk me through

442
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 4: that or. Something BUT i think he's absolutely nailed. Calls This,

443
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 4: october The Blue jays have had a lot of big,

444
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 4: moments AND i think he's crushing. Me he's got a.

445
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 4: GEAR i can't get to it. Anymore to use another movie,

446
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 4: Line ben can turn it up to eleven pretty. GOOD

447
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 4: i can't get for. Eleven so, yeah we will talk a.

448
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 4: Lot once in a blue, moon he'll say did you

449
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,120
Speaker 4: hear this? Call or? Whatever but you, know it's everything

450
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 4: is out. There more often than, not it's before the

451
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 4: games where it's, hey did you see The schurzer thing

452
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: from the other day or The, yamamoto did you know this? Number,

453
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 4: like we're trading text during the day more as prep

454
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,479
Speaker 4: leading into, games and we text during the. GAME i

455
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 4: bet you there's not a single game this year where

456
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 4: we haven't texted at least once during a, game just

457
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 4: from booth to booth talking about something going on with the.

458
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 4: Game and that's so. Fun we we are literally doing

459
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 4: the same, thing just one ON tv and one on.

460
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 4: Radio SO i probably lean on him more than he

461
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 4: leans on, me, again because he's younger and smarter THAN i,

462
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 4: am so his prep is. Better he knows websites and

463
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 4: resources THAT i can't quite figure, out and he's sending

464
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 4: me stuff and so it's probably it's probably me getting

465
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 4: more out of the relationship than he is at this.

466
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: Point And, ben if you don't, know the reference your

467
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: dad made was to the Movie Final, tap which is

468
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,719
Speaker 1: one of the funniest and one of the Great one

469
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: of the great pictures ever is When Spinal tap was

470
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: really struggling and they went to play a gig and

471
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: it was puppet show And Spinal tap they were second

472
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: fiddle to a puppet. Show that movie was. Hilarious, So,

473
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: dan you brought up something that you're a math. GUY

474
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: i don't know if you Know dan Or, ben you

475
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: know that my, Dad jeff's, grandfather who we Named jeff,

476
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: after was a mathematical. Genius well he was a PhD

477
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: in MATHEMATICS mit. Undergrad so my love of statistics came

478
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: from my, father who, was by the, way a really

479
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: good player and had a great feel for the, game

480
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: but the mathematical part of the game always fascinated. Him

481
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: and we would sit around with The Baseball, encyclopedia, which

482
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: by the, Way BEN i used to travel, with weighed

483
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: eight pounds AND i would see it it was this.

484
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: Big so we talked about The, internet how things. Changed

485
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: actually carry The Baseball encyclopedia with me on the. Road But,

486
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: dan your math background must help you as a broadcaster

487
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: that you can look at a set of numbers and

488
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: understand what they.

489
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 4: Mean, yeah AND i, think without me realizing it as a,

490
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 4: kid it's part of what drew me to. Baseball so

491
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 4: The Blue jays showed up WHEN i was ten years.

492
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 4: OLD i was the Biggest Toronto Maple leafs fan who ever,

493
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 4: lived and still loved The, leafs but as soon as

494
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: baseball showed, UP i was drawn to it and as a,

495
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 4: kid AND i, Know, Tim you're going to relate to

496
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 4: this so. MUCH i have two, sisters neither a sports fan,

497
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 4: really although my youngest sister is now really into THE.

498
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 4: Jas BUT i used to play stratumatic baseball by myself

499
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 4: AND i there were four divisions THEN i would create

500
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 4: In march when the cards were mailed to your, house

501
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: four Divisional All star, teams AND i played a full

502
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty two game season where each team

503
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 4: played fifty four games against the other. Team so that's

504
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 4: a total of three hundred and twenty four games THAT

505
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 4: i had to get in over a six month. Period

506
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: and at the end of every, WEEK i would totally

507
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 4: the stats manually AND i would declare to myself alone

508
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: player of The, week pitcher of the, week Like i'm

509
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 4: clearly in the. Industry i'm supposed to be, it even

510
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 4: IF i didn't realize it back. Then but, yes it

511
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 4: does help. ME i. Was, YEAH i loved math and

512
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: it was always my best. Subject and there are times

513
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 4: where like if a player is twelve for thirty one

514
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 4: in the postseason And i've got his batting average written

515
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 4: down on the card and he's gone two for two

516
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 4: and he's now fourteen for thirty, three LIKE i can

517
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 4: FIND i can kind of do that level of stuff

518
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 4: on the fly as games are. GOING i can't do

519
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 4: it In august for season stats when he's got four

520
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty at bats or anything like. That but,

521
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 4: yeah the numbers part helps, ME i. Think and it

522
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 4: also you, know when you see a graphic or read a,

523
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 4: story it's, like, well that, NUMBER i get that, number

524
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: but you're kind of you're kind of twisting the story

525
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 4: to make the number work like, it and it shouldn't

526
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 4: be that. Way And ben's very strong with numbers, two

527
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 4: SO i think it helps, him and that's a part of,

528
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 4: baseball and it's even more a part of baseball now

529
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 4: to him than when you AND i were, young obviously

530
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 4: because of. Analytics SO i am grateful that THAT i

531
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 4: feel comfortable with.

532
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 6: Numbers Right damn we played, yeah go, ahead go, ahead

533
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 6: and ass we Played, Dad you AND i Played Strata

534
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 6: maatic together along with your brother and my Cousin. Michael

535
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 6: we created our own. League, EMBARRASSINGLY i made a card

536
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 6: For Cal Ripken junior because he hadn't been inducted into

537
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 6: The hall Of fame, yet but we had The hall

538
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 6: Of fame, addition but it was not even mathematics, based

539
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 6: so like in like a forty game, SEASON i think

540
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 6: he hit like forty four homers or. Something it was

541
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 6: not accurate at all to what he should have been.

542
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 6: Doing that's how we played, Together, Dad, ben did you

543
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 6: ever have a chance to Play strata matic at?

544
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: ALL i don't know IF i, DID i don't think. So.

545
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean they you, know they.

546
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 5: Came out with these things called the PlayStation and The

547
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 5: xbox and they just.

548
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: Kind, of you, know they just changed.

549
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 5: Everything they took over and you, could you, know load

550
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 5: UP mlb The show and simm the full one sixty.

551
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 5: Two AND i don't think you've ever PLAYED mlb The.

552
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 5: SHOW i would assume.

553
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 4: No.

554
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: No.

555
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 4: No our video, game the video game we played together

556
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: with all three of the older boys Was Super. Mario

557
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 4: that's what we played all the. Time but by the

558
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: Time ben Was. BEN i, mean, firstly he's the third,

559
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 4: child so it was lucky we knew where he. Was

560
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: half the. Time you're just trying to account for, everybody

561
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 4: AND i was traveling like, crazy so we never got

562
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 4: to share in that father and. SON i made my

563
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 4: dad play with me a little. Bit he was a

564
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 4: dentist and worked long, hours came home in the evenings

565
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 4: late a, lot so he didn't have a lot of.

566
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 4: Time But god bless, him IF i asked, him he

567
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 4: would sit. Down and there are certain players WHEN i

568
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 4: hear their, names they take me back to that, moment

569
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 4: like for whatever, Reason Jeane, Richards Jason, thompson, like those

570
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 4: are GUYS i associate. With nineteen seventy eight and me

571
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 4: Playing stratomatic in the back part of the basement where

572
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: the photocopy machine was SO i could print out a

573
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 4: scorecard for the next. Games that's WHAT i was. DOING i, was,

574
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 4: well you.

575
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: Guys might not, know BUT i am in The Stratamatic

576
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: hall Of. FAME i was abducted Last. February so Now

577
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: strata bat we mentioned it so many times on this,

578
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: show on this, podcast that they put me in The

579
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: hall Of. Fame NOW i couldn't go to the ceremony

580
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: because it was right in the middle of spring. Training

581
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: but the kicker, Is i'm in the same hall Of

582
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: fame And stratamatic With keith or nand is he's Also

583
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: so we had him on the podcast In march and

584
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: he told the story he's a senior in high school

585
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: and he's playing stratamatic every single. Day he gets drafted

586
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: to go play for The Saint Louis, cardinals he acts As.

587
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: Stratamatic he puts it in. Suitcase he arrives In Saint.

588
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: Petersburg he opens up his suitcase and his father has

589
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: taken the stratamatic out of his. Suitcase he called it

590
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: home and said, dad what did you? Do and he, goes,

591
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: son you're a professional baseball.

592
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: Player now you can't play Stratamatic and he, Said, Dad

593
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: i'm halfway through the nineteen seventy. Season he was rushed

594
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: that his dad had Taken stratamatic away from.

595
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: Him So ben.

596
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 6: For me growing up with video games as, Well Like

597
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 6: i'm a little bit, older so like two thousand and,

598
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 6: FOUR mvp baseball was like the absolute goat for. Me

599
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 6: you MENTIONED mlb the. Show you know you're hearing those

600
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 6: broadcaster voices as, well you're hearing your dad on the.

601
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 6: Call would you ever like mute the video game and

602
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 6: try to call it yourself when you're doing a game or,

603
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 6: play BECAUSE i feel like EVEN, i as a non

604
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 6: play by play, guy would tend to do THAT i

605
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 6: would hit a replay and do my own home run

606
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 6: call For Manny ramirez of The Red sox And.

607
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: No.

608
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 5: Four you know WHAT i wouldn't in the, GAME i.

609
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 5: Wasn't i'm not the BEST mlb the show. Player i'll

610
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: ad BET i can't really hit that.

611
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: MUCH i can.

612
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: Pay, WELL i. STINK i really struggle with the.

613
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: Hitting so in GAME i was full.

614
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 5: Energy but one, thing even going to WHEN i was in,

615
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 5: college but starting WHEN i was a.

616
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: Kid you load up a home run, derby.

617
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 5: You try and get your home run derby, Going AND

618
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 5: i feel like we would do a lot of home

619
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 5: run calls for that because they give, you you, Know

620
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 5: Jim tolemy really hits, one they give you the cinematic

621
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: kind of where the camera's behind him and you're looking

622
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 5: up at the ball and you got a couple of seconds.

623
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 5: There although also you, KNOW i probably wouldn't do it

624
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 5: that much because it was already kind OF i don't

625
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 5: want to be in my friend's face with, like this

626
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 5: is the Broadcaster.

627
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: Sun, guy so like we're hanging out with him and now.

628
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 5: All of a, sudden he's like and he goes to

629
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 5: get To doritos from the.

630
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: Cabinet you, KNOW i didn't want. TO i didn't want

631
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: to throw it too much in their.

632
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 5: Face BUT i imagine on a couple home run DERBIES

633
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 5: i did it back in the.

634
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: Day, DAN i need you to tell jeff the. Story

635
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: you don't have to use specific names because we don't

636
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: want to hurt anyone's, feelings but one of your nicknames

637
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: that we have for you is the. Dabbler could you

638
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: please explain To jeffrey why someone would actually Call Dan schulman.

639
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: Dabbler so it's two thoy. ELEVEN i am in my

640
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 4: seventeenth year calling baseball at Esp it is my first

641
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 4: year doing The World series ON espn. Radio John, miller the,

642
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: incredible Incredible John miller And Joe morgan have Been Sunday

643
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: Night baseball and then Playoffs World series on the radio.

644
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 4: Forever but NOW espn has made a change and it's

645
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: my First World. Series your dad is, there as he

646
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: is at Every World. Series AND i am asked to

647
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 4: go on a key AND i am asked to go

648
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 4: on a radio. Show SO i sit down with the

649
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: host and the host, SAID i have to be very,

650
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: careful HOW i, Yeah so you don't want to hurt,

651
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: Me i'm going to do it in my, voice just

652
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: so and, so and the radio host says to, me, So,

653
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: DANNY i know you've been dabbling in baseball for a,

654
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: while but this is like a new thing for you

655
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: or something like. That and it was the word. Dabbling because,

656
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: again it is my seventeenth. YEAR i have been ON espn,

657
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: FOREVER Espn radio, forever just only going up to THE,

658
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: lcs not in The World. Series and a lot of

659
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 4: people AT espn heard, this and to this, day your,

660
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 4: dad and he's not, alone will walk by me and

661
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: call me the dabbler and just, say, hey, dabbler how

662
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: you doing? Today and it's one of those sill, again

663
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: silly inside. JOKES i would say more than four people

664
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: know this. One maybe eight people know this. One but

665
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: it gave everybody a kick that THAT i was dabbling

666
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 4: at that point in my.

667
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: Career But, dan how did he pronounce your last name

668
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: in the same, Interview?

669
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: Shuman so to this, Day Terry, francona the world's greatest

670
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 4: human being is you know you know him as well

671
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: AS i do WHO i worked with AT. Espn WHENEVER

672
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: i see, him like when The Blue jays played The

673
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 4: reds this year AND i walked into his, Office. Sloman

674
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: it's the first thing that he says to me all the.

675
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: Time so you know, WHAT i, think it's funny nicknames

676
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: and funny stories like. That like, again it's a moment in.

677
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: Time we're in the, moment you're, like what's happening? Here

678
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: but then you get twenty years of laughs out of

679
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: that one, Moment like what's a better what's a better

680
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 4: payoff than something like?

681
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: That And, ben Didn't Aaron boone come up to you

682
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: during the EL lds tell us what happened?

683
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 7: There?

684
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 5: Yeah so this was so in the in the, playoffs

685
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 5: it's you, know less intimate meetings sometimes in more press,

686
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 5: conferences and So, boone The jays are up one.

687
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: NOTHING i think this was game.

688
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 4: Two.

689
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: Uh But aaron has an awesome sense of.

690
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 5: Humor and he's up there and he's taken, questions AND

691
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 5: i might ask him one of the last couple of,

692
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 5: questions so he would have seen THAT i was in

693
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 5: there right before he, left and he wraps up and

694
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 5: he walks off the, podium down the stairs toward the

695
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 5: door to leave the. Room and right before he, leaves

696
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 5: he turned with a room full of, reporters Mostly yankee,

697
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 5: reporters who have no context for what is going. On

698
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: The jeph board has done. Either and he turned and

699
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 5: just went slowman and then left the room the way

700
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 5: and SO i didn't even have time to. Respond and, IMMEDIATELY.

701
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: I, mean you don't have to get it to know

702
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: that he's talking to.

703
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 5: Me and immediately a bunch of people around me just

704
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 5: looked at, me AND i was, LIKE i don't, know,

705
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 5: guys AND i walked out BECAUSE i couldn't explain it

706
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 5: to everyone in. There but, he's, uh he's, funny he's

707
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 5: he hasn't he hasn't hit me with. Dabbler that's that's

708
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 5: that's a one on. One BUT i do GET i

709
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 5: do Get schluman from him ninety percent of the, TIME

710
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 5: i would say at this, point.

711
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: And by the, way speaking Of, boonie he looks Exact

712
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: Ernie clement looks exactly like a Young Aaron. Boone AM

713
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: i making this? Up or AM i seeing this? Wrong

714
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: this is?

715
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 4: True, right this is. TRUE i have Told aaron said.

716
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 4: It so for a little, background as you know to

717
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 4: as you guys all, Know aaron AND i worked together

718
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 4: for many years so ON. Espn so we know each

719
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: other very. Well he's no men since he was a,

720
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 4: kid and which is why he was comfortab to do.

721
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 4: That but WHEN i think it was during one of

722
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: the regular season series Where boonie said to, ME i

723
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 4: Think Ernie clement looks like he could be a family

724
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 4: member of. Mine AND i Told, ernie AND i Think

725
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: ernie has had some people tell him that. Too and

726
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 4: then in the division SERIES i brought so we're all

727
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: it's a more intimate. Gathering we are in the office

728
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 4: With Aaron, boone and just because we know each other so,

729
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 4: well there's kind of a two second lull between questions

730
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 4: and my question obviously tongue in, sheeks, hey has anybody

731
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: ever told you you look Like Ernie clement to like just,

732
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: whatever just to be a? Goop and he says in that,

733
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 4: moment he, goes you know what's. FUNNY i noticed a

734
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 4: picture of my, grandfather his Grandfather, ray who played in

735
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 4: The Major, league who had a nice long career when

736
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: he was a young, man and he looks exactly Like

737
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 4: Ernie clement. Does so it's a who knows strange.

738
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: Thing, Yeah i've been around The Blue jays now for three.

739
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: Weeks So ernie AND i have talked multiple times about

740
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: him looking Like Aaron Booney. Goes i've never even met him.

741
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: Before But Dan, ben it's more than just the. Looks

742
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: it's the same, cadence it's the same, manners and it's

743
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: the same. Movements he reminds me so much Of. BOOTY

744
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: i just get such kick out of.

745
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 4: That, yeah they would be likable, GUYS, yea two guys

746
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: with a great sense of. Humor and we've got to

747
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 4: arrange a. Meeting. Maybe Obviously october the playoffs wasn't the

748
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 4: time to do, it but maybe If i'm at a

749
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 4: spring training, game that's What that's a good time to do.

750
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 4: It next, year if the if The yankees come to

751
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 4: duneat and, all arrange a meeting or.

752
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: Something, right all, Right so you guys are the first

753
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: father son ever to do A World series. Game has

754
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: the hall of? Fame don't be modest. Here has the

755
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: hall of fame approached to you? Yet about some sort

756
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: of some sort of you, know this is a record

757
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: that one's ever done that has that happened? Yet? No, No,

758
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: well as you Saw Addison, barger who by the, way

759
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: is hilariously. Funny, also he you, know he slept On

760
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: David schneider's couch the other day and then then hit

761
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: the first Bitchy Grand slam in the history of The World,

762
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: series and they took his spikes after the. Game SO

763
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: i was just wondering If, dan if you were to

764
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: donate something to The hall Of, fame if they, said,

765
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: hey you And ben are the first father, son what

766
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: would you? Said would you send a? Scorecard would you

767
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: send something unique to?

768
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 4: You, YEAH i guess scorecard would be the, thing although

769
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 4: it's another area Where ben crushes. Me you can read

770
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 4: his mine are, illegible BUT i guess it would be

771
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 4: scorecard or head, SAID i, mean we don't have cool

772
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 4: stuff like cleats and batting gloves and bats and helmets

773
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 4: and all. That But i'd never considered anything like that

774
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 4: until you brought it. Up but, yeah that would be.

775
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: Fun.

776
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 1: Ben what about? You is there anything that you would

777
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: send along.

778
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: THAT i would send?

779
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 5: Along, YEAH i mean not that you, know we have

780
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 5: coffee cups in, there and you, know our finished. Lunch

781
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 5: But i'm kind of thing high that, well AND i

782
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 5: don't even color, coordinate SO i don't even have the

783
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 5: highlighters in there Because i'm literally.

784
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: Colorblind SO i can't do. It but, YEAH i guess

785
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: like a.

786
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 5: Headset BUT i Think i'd get in a lot of

787
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 5: trouble if i'd have. To i'd have to send that

788
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 5: email from The hall Of fame to a couple of

789
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 5: my bosses BEFORE i could give concern that we're giving

790
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 5: a headset. AWAY i, mean.

791
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: They did give up those.

792
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 6: Cleats it would BE i think it'd be even funnier

793
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 6: if we just had two pairs of. Shoes here are the.

794
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: Sh here are the shoes they wore the most popular

795
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: item In. Cooperstown i'm guessing.

796
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: We both wear.

797
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 5: GLASSES i guess you know we could send them my

798
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 5: glasses in, theory.

799
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: You, know, YEAH I, dan BEFORE i forget tell us

800
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: about when you played basketball overseas that one. Year tell

801
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: that story BECAUSE i don't Think jeffrey knows.

802
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: That The Maccabia, games which is In israel and it's

803
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 4: kind of a a worldwide athletic competition For jewish, people

804
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 4: AND i played for The Canadian masters. Team i'm not very,

805
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 4: good never, was never never will. Be i'm kind of

806
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 4: a good. Teammate i'm the glue. Guy i'm the glue.

807
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: GUY a lot of set some, screens make some travel,

808
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 4: arrangements had good status on the, airline got a, people a,

809
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 4: couple a couple of teammates. Upgraded So i'm that. Guy but,

810
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: YEAH i did that a couple of times until my

811
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: body and my lack of talent were too much to to.

812
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: Overcome but made some made some great, friends and only

813
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 4: had two surgeries because of it on my, foot so

814
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: lived to tell the.

815
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: Story, man have you ever played hoops with your?

816
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: Dad?

817
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 5: Yeah he he is definitely better than. Me i'm not

818
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 5: a very good basketball. PLAYER i played hockey and baseball

819
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 5: mostly growing. Up so it's he's obviously a lot bigger than,

820
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 5: me but also is a better shooter than. Me SO

821
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 5: i kind of have no there's no avenue for. Me,

822
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 5: no we haven't gone out much recently to do. It but,

823
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 5: uh there wasn't really that, moment you, know that that

824
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 5: kind of cookie cutter moment where it's like you beat

825
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 5: your older brother or you beat your dad for the

826
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 5: first time on the.

827
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: Driveway i'm still kind of waiting right now for that.

828
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 2: ONE i. COULD i could beat my older.

829
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 5: Brother actually he's not Very matt is not very good

830
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 5: at basketball, either despite being a lot taller than, Me

831
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 5: BUT i. DON'T i think to this DAY i would

832
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 5: still have a pretty tough time beating him in a

833
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 5: game of one on one to.

834
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: Five he was a hockey like you, said he was

835
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 4: a hockey baseball. Player he was a, tough hard nosed

836
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 4: defenseman in, hockey and he was a good glove first

837
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: baseman in. Baseball and he was very. COACHABLE i was

838
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 4: his baseball, coach extremely. Coachable, YEAH i.

839
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 6: Don't if it makes you feel any, Better, BEN i

840
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 6: was a halfway decent basketball, player not quite a high school,

841
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 6: player but a pretty pretty solid pickup. Guy AND i never,

842
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 6: still to the, state have never beat my dad one on.

843
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 6: One and then he goes and gets a hip. Replacement

844
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 6: now it just doesn't feel right IF i were to

845
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 6: try to take. Him you, KNOW i THINK i could

846
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 6: beat him, today size and strength on, him but it

847
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 6: just doesn't feel right at this.

848
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 4: Point do you?

849
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: Agree do you?

850
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: Know, yeah sixty eight years, old five to four and a,

851
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: half one hundred and forty, pounds artificial hip not a good.

852
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: Combination it's time to beat thirty two year Old Jeff

853
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: kirchin in a game of one on. One so we're

854
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: not going to do. That all, right we have taken

855
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: way too much of your guys. Time this has been

856
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: so much fun that for a father and son who

857
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: do a podcast to interview another father and son And,

858
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: jeff what were you, saying what's the difference between The

859
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: shulman's doing games together and you AND i doing the podcast.

860
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: Together let's finish with.

861
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 6: This, well, yeah on yesterday's, episode we were teasing that

862
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Speaker 6: you two were going to be a part of the.

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Speaker 1: Show how excited.

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Speaker 6: We, were and and you, Know i'd, Said, dad this

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Speaker 6: is so perfect father, son father's. Son and he, goes,

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Speaker 6: yeah but you, know their, job like is way more

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Speaker 6: involved than what we do and all of. This AND i, said,

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Speaker 6: WELL i thought you said you were going to say

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Speaker 6: their job involves them getting paid and we just do

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Speaker 6: this podcast out of the goodness of our own born

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Speaker 6: of that. Too this is their career for, us this

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Speaker 6: is our.

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Speaker 1: Hot, well either, way it's great to do something with your, Son.

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Speaker 1: DAN i assume this has been a, highlight one of

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Speaker 1: the highlights of your. Life working this close to your.

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Speaker 4: Son it is just to you, know where again we

877
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: have the same lives and we're texting and talking every

878
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 4: day every day about, baseball whether it's fun stuff or

879
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 4: numbers or. Whatever and then he does some basketball in the.

880
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 4: Winter he does games for The RAPTORS G league team

881
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 4: up here In, toronto And i'm, obviously as you guys,

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00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: know a basketball announcer as well FOR espn so's it's

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00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: really cool when not that he followed in my. Footsteps

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00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 4: that's not the WAY i think of, it but he

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Speaker 4: happens to be doing the same thing THAT i, do

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Speaker 4: and we just have so much in common that we

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Speaker 4: can share it. Together it is really fun FOR.

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Speaker 6: Adap have you guys ever run into each other in

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Speaker 6: the restroom at the press box in between a quick,

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Speaker 6: inning like oh hey, dad right hold?

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Speaker 2: On maybe not in the middle of in the middle a. Little,

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Speaker 2: definitely pre and post game almost every.

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Speaker 4: Day postgame, yeah postgame so, yeah or pre game so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah in. Game, FORTUNATELY i might be a year or

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Speaker 4: two away from. This FORTUNATELY i can usually make it

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00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: through a game at this point, because as you, Know,

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Speaker 4: TIM i got to get down a flight of stairs

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Speaker 4: to get to the bathroom at The. Rogerson's, yes that's

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Speaker 4: not an easy trek with two minutes on the.

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Speaker 1: Clock i'm ten years older than, You, dan so you've

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Speaker 1: got things not to look forward to forward There god,

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Speaker 1: so but we.

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Speaker 4: Digress, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: All, right well thanks again for you guys joining us,

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Speaker 1: today And i'll leave by telling both of you have

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Speaker 1: fun storming the. Castle, okay thanks for having us from

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Speaker 1: his sid