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Speaker 2: This sounds a lot like Ricky.

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Speaker 1: Martin, an icon that in one performance so electrified an

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Speaker 2: Uh is this Cinglon? It's Ricky Martin.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about none other than Puerto Rico's on Ricky Martin.

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Speaker 1: You never let me surprise you anymore? Can we talk

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Speaker 1: about Ricky?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: How much do you know about the man, the myth,

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Speaker 1: the legend?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I know that he was in a boy group

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Speaker 3: and he is hot. Well that's a number one was

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Speaker 3: in like American novela? What are those called American novelas?

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Speaker 2: You don't know? Wait?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, did you just forget your English? Like Hilaria Baldwin?

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Speaker 2: Wait? Is this Baldwin?

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Speaker 1: This is Joso Speppino moment an American novella. You don't

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: What is that actually called? Because you just say novela.

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Speaker 3: A soap opera, A soap opera, Oh my god, a

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Speaker 1: And gay a gay icon, not just an icon, a

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Speaker 1: casually drifted by boy band, which is really funny because

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Speaker 1: to me, man Noodle was life as a little girl.

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Speaker 3: Well it's also life for me when I'm hungover on

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Speaker 1: Is that when you listen to it, that's when.

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Speaker 2: I ate Manudal Just kidding, but I did love Vadola

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Speaker 1: Everybody loved Manudula growing up. There is so much more

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Speaker 1: to his forty year career than most even know. Over

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Speaker 1: the next few episodes, we're going to tell you how

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Speaker 1: Ricky did the improbable and use his time in a

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Speaker 3: There aren't many that have for every justin Timberlake, there

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Speaker 3: are forty Where are they now Google searches.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at you, Joey.

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Speaker 1: Fatone, And yes, of course, naturally, we will talk about

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Speaker 1: how he helped launch the Latin I hate this word,

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Speaker 1: the Latin explosion ex explosion. Can we change it please?

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Speaker 1: The Latin boom, the Latin wave, how about a wave,

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Speaker 1: the Latin tsunami, anything but explosion. We're also going to

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Speaker 1: tell you the story of how Ricky found himself and

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Speaker 1: became a hero to so many in the LGBTQIA plus community,

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Speaker 1: how his journey has helped push the boundaries of sexuality

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Speaker 2: Henny, he didn't have to be just one thing, and

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Speaker 2: we'll get into that.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to tell you about his time on stage,

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Speaker 1: his charitable work, and if I can convince iHeart an

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Speaker 1: entire season about his time on the American Novella General Hospital.

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Speaker 2: I love you, Miguel.

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Speaker 1: We all do today on becoming an Icon Ricky Martin.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Lilianavasquez.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Joseph Carrio, and this is Becoming an Icon.

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Speaker 1: A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on

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Speaker 1: how today's most famous LATINX stars have shaped pop culture.

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Speaker 2: And given the world some extras.

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Speaker 1: At all, sit back and get comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Because we are.

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Speaker 1: Going in the only way we know how. With Buena

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Speaker 1: bea ushigunas Riesas and a lot of opinions, as we

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Speaker 1: what makes them so iconic, It all starts with menudo.

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Speaker 1: Now most of you of a certain age, you mean

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Speaker 1: people younger than us. Okay, you're choosing violence today. That hurt,

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Speaker 1: But moving on, Like.

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Speaker 2: Mike Girl, Lozzo says, truth hurts.

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Speaker 1: The entire band was a gimmick cooked up by music

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Speaker 1: producer at godilodas the as had seen the Jackson five

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Speaker 1: In Puerto Rico, menudo is slang for loose.

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Speaker 2: Change clever. It got very clever.

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Speaker 3: The band members knew that they could count on screaming

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Speaker 1: Dropped by the way. I do think we need to

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, I'm pretty sure Joseph had some

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Speaker 1: screaming moments for boy bands, right, for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for boy bands, and for no doubt, but that's

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Speaker 2: another podcast.

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Speaker 1: Now, do you have favorite boy bands from going on?

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Speaker 3: Obviously it's going to be something like the End Sync

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Speaker 3: and Backshit Boys, right, But for me, I actually have

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Speaker 1: I think it's crazy that in our lifetime that has

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Speaker 1: a continuation of the love that I had for Manudal.

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Speaker 1: But my first boy band love was obviously Ricky and Manudal,

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Speaker 1: Like I thought there was nobody cuter on the planet.

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Speaker 2: But listen to this.

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Speaker 1: According to Billboard, US Weekly, seventeen and teen Vogue, Manudal

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Speaker 1: Are you that initial girl? I didn't think that I

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Speaker 2: You had flair.

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Speaker 1: I'm dead, But Maneudal is right up there in the

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they're good enough for teen Vogue.

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Speaker 1: So the band was formed in nineteen seventy seven, but

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Speaker 1: Ricky didn't join until nineteen eighty three, the year I

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Speaker 1: No, because, like me, Ricky was persistent af and kept

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Speaker 1: At age twelve, he joined the band and became part

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Speaker 3: Eleven albums, one hundi they didn't have Child Liberlaus back then.

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Speaker 1: No, that's basically two albums a year. And Ricky said

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Speaker 1: In his debut stage performance, Ricky broke the choreography by

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Speaker 1: You either did things the way you were told or

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Speaker 3: Well damn bitch, that is like seriously some BTS strict shit.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that is a band that we love

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Speaker 1: here at becoming an icon. Maybe we could make them

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Hey, have you also seen what the BTS army does

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Speaker 2: A good call, BTS, we love you.

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Speaker 1: While with Manudal Ricky performed alongside Robbie Draco Rosa. Rosa

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Speaker 1: worst movies of the eighties, Salsa What. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 3: Okay, I just looked it up and the entire movie

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Speaker 1: One, really, like not you normally need more.

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Speaker 1: Robbie Rosa plays an important role very soon. So Ricky

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Speaker 2: Rest in peace Manulo.

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Speaker 2: So Ricky says bye bye bye to Puerto Rico and

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Speaker 1: Ricky is accepted into NYU's TISH School of Performing Arts.

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Speaker 2: I know, and you automatically become the Tish backwards. I

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Speaker 1: You become this shit when you graduate from TISH is

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Speaker 1: So while in Mexico City, one of the producers of

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Speaker 1: what a turn of events for mister Martin. Megusta same

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Speaker 1: because he followed his passion, which I think is important

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Speaker 1: Come back, bitch, Okay, okay, okay, I'm here. Hashtag justice

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Speaker 3: Love, Oh Jim, Daddy's, Zaddies, Otters, Twinks, Polar Bears, Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's about cocaine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Joseph, you saw one movie about a bear who

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Speaker 3: The lyrics translate to this is Maria white as the day,

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Speaker 2: Come on.

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Speaker 1: The whole world did, and soon record executives were lining

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Speaker 1: Very nice, Save joseph On. Ricky wanted to embrace the

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Speaker 1: I know, people, it's everyone's favorite album. It's like the

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Speaker 1: It didn't even matter what Ricky sounded like. It didn't

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Speaker 3: Remember it's nineteen ninety eight, so like there weren't a

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Speaker 1: And by the way, fun fact for all of you

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Speaker 1: Ricky super fans, do you know where that video was shot?

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00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: The exterior? And I also believe a lot of the

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00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: interiors do you know, do.

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Speaker 2: You know I don't tell us tell us that people

444
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: need to know.

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00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: It was shot in Miami. Oh, of course at the

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00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: Delano Hotel, which anybody that spent any portion of the

447
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: late nineties or early two thousands in Miami knows. The

448
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: Delano was like the hot spot to be, so I.

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Speaker 2: Know exactly where you are. Bish.

450
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: I was that the Dilano. I had one of the

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Speaker 1: best nights of my life.

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00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: At the Dilano, I'm not even going. We're not doing that.

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00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: We are not doing that.

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Speaker 1: We are not parents are listening, children are listening.

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00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: Anyway where they dropped six songs that went number one

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Speaker 3: on the Latin charts.

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Speaker 1: As Ricky told CNN, he wanted WEDVI to reaffirm the

458
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Speaker 1: internationalization of my career, and I know that it will

459
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Speaker 1: help me a lot to destroy the stereotypes that may

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Speaker 1: exist with my culture. It was a smash and he

461
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: had conquered every country in the.

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Speaker 2: World except for one.

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Speaker 1: Joseph, Are you a big soccer fan?

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Speaker 2: Do you mean football?

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Speaker 1: Fine?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: Sure? Are you a big football fan? No?

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00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 2: Not really?

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00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: So why did you you know what?

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Speaker 2: Never mind? Never mind?

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Speaker 1: Every four years there's a World Cup held in a

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Speaker 1: different country around the world. It's a soccer tournament, but

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Speaker 1: it's also a month long celebration.

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Speaker 2: And every celebration needs music exactly.

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Speaker 1: So in nineteen ninety, the World Cup decided to commission

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Speaker 1: an official anthem, a pop song that would play everywhere

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Speaker 1: and be associated with the World Cup. In nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: it was an Italian pop song.

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00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety World Cup was the one that West Germany

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Speaker 3: won on a late penalty versus Argentina.

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Speaker 1: Wait so you are a fan?

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00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: No, well not really.

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00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety four, the World Cup was held in

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Speaker 1: the US and the song was by none other than

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Speaker 1: Daryl Hall of Hallan Oates.

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00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a cough drop brand.

487
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: Right, this constant disrespect of Hallan notates. I've had enough

488
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: of this. Moving on, So the ninety eight World Cup

489
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: was quickly approaching and the organized France. We're looking for

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00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: an artist to write the official anthem, the number one

491
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: song in France in the summer of nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 1: Ooh no tress yep. Maria is everywhere and everyone wants

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00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: to get some of that sound. So they approach Ricky

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Speaker 1: and Draco Rosa to write the song, and at first

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Speaker 1: Ricky isn't so sure.

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00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: He said, I have to.

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00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: Admit that the challenge made me a bit nervous, but

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Speaker 1: the massive growth potential for my career was such that

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00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: I decided to accept.

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00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: Accept he did.

501
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: Rosa and Child went back to the studio and cooked

502
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: up what they said was a mix of salsa, Gumbia

503
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: and funk over a Brazilian beat that sounds like a dish.

504
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: I want to eat.

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Speaker 3: Of course, football, the World Cup and five time World

506
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: Cup champion Brazil go hand in hand el Jogo bonito.

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Speaker 1: Can you just stop the lies and admit that you

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00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: are a football fan?

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00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: I've dabbled.

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Speaker 1: I bet The song is an infectious celebration. It keeps

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00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: building until you're just out of your seat dancing.

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00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: Nicole A.

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Speaker 1: Sevilo from NBC News described the track as a world

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00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: famous mega hit. E wrote that there was not a

515
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: minute in the whole year that the song was not

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00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: played and emphasized that it was obviously one of the

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Speaker 1: big must do hits at parties.

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00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: It was a party mother effing jam.

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Speaker 1: Scott Rocksborough from The Hollywood Reporter wrote, this is the

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00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: song that set the musical template for the World Cup

521
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: anthems to come. Martin got the world shimming and shaking

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00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: to the Cup of Life, and yes.

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Speaker 3: I am shimming and shaking right now thinking about the

524
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: song because it was one of my favorite songs. I mean,

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00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: it could come on right now and I could gem

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00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 3: out like I'm not tired of it at all.

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00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: You could be a death metal devote and the Cup

528
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: of Life came on and you were like salsaing in

529
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: your combat boots, like it did not matter what musical

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00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: genre you preferred, the genre that we preferred that summer.

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Speaker 2: Was shaking Dad, it was Ricky. Martin was Ricky.

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00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: It was Ricky.

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00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: I was drinking out of that cup.

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00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: I wish that I drank out of that cup. I

535
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: wish I'd been I wish I'd attended a World Cup.

536
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy is that he was becoming

537
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: a household name globally here in the United States and

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00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't even singing in English. I mean, here we

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00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: are twenty years later, and you know else, don't don't

540
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: you bring that shit up. Listen, I look for any

541
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: and all reasons to bring up bad Bunny. All I'm

542
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: saying is that here we are twenty years later as

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00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: deja vu Puerto Rican stop it icon, but no songs

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00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: in English at this point in their career. Yeah, bad Bunny.

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00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: He paved the way right and Ricky performed this song everywhere,

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00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: and before you knew it, he was one of the

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00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: hottest pop stars in the world. And of course here

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00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: unless styles who need those?

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00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: Mmmmm.

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00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: So when Veeve was nominated for Best Latin Pop Performance

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00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: at the forty first Annual Grammys, fans were hoping that

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00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: Ricky would.

553
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: Perform that performance would go on to change pop history forever.

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00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: But it almost didn't happen.

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00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety nine, the Grammys didn't really care about

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00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: Latin music, typical lame. So here's what you have to

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00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: know about the Grammys. They're hosted by the Recording Academy

558
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: and they were founded in nineteen fifty seven to honor

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00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: the best popular songs worldwide. So why do I bring

560
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: this up? That is a good question, because in nineteen

561
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: fifty seven that wasn't that far from nineteen ninety nine.

562
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: The members of the Recording Academy were mainly older and white,

563
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: which is why so many of the shows back then

564
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: seemed like more of a funeral than a celebration, and

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00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: why the Academy was so resistant to honoring any new

566
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: music trends rock, heavy metal, rap. The Academy was really

567
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: slow to recognize these genres as being worthy of recognition

568
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: and the stage and those were all in English exactly,

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00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: so imagine how resistant they were to songs in a

570
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: language that they didn't even understand. To be fair, they

571
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: did start the Latin Academy in nineteen ninety seven. They're

572
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: the ones that hand out all the Latin Grammys.

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00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: But in nineteen ninety nine, these old white folks didn't

574
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: want to see Ricky shake his bond bond on stage.

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00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: Which is when Tommy Montola stepped in.

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00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know.

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00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: We have major issues with Tommy, but in this one

578
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: isolated incident, he was right. He knew that Ricky was

579
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: a sensation, and he pushed the Academy hard to allow

580
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 1: Ricky on that stage. During an interview with Billboard, Matola

581
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: told the magazine about it, there was tremendous resistance from

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00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: the Grammys. They did not want a quote unknown to perform,

583
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: yet he had already sold ten million copies of welve worldwide.

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00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: To me, that was absolutely unacceptable. The Grammys finally cave.

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00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: Damn right, they did. My boy brought stilts onto that stage.

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00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: That performance was pure music magic. I have a feeling

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00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: that you and I are not the only ones that

588
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: remember that song. I mean we talked about this back

589
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: in our j Low episodes. But how impactful do you

590
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: think that performance was to every Grammy show going forward?

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00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: I think that people just couldn't take it. It was

592
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: like too much you It's nothing you've ever seen.

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00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: It was nothing they had ever seen. As Latinos were like, y'all,

594
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: this is happening at the Goatna Sada, like my aunts

595
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: do this like for us? He brought I think, the

596
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: essence and the spirit of our culture to the stage.

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00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't know who followed that performance that night, because

598
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: I think I tuned it all out. But sucks for

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00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: them who wants to follow Ricky After the performance? I mean,

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00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: there was like big band coming through the aisles, like

601
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: all these people in tuxedos that were mainly white were like.

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00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: What is happening here?

603
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: The over stimulation in that room. I would have loved

604
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: to have been there, just people just being like are

605
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: we being invaded?

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00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: I love that you say that, And you know, it

607
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: just felt to me like a party and it was

608
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: the secret sauce that the Grammys had been missing for years,

609
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: Because after that you really started to see these much

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00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: more elaborate performances stage presence. I mean, they finally realized

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00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: that they had the world's greatest musicians there once a

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00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: year put on a damn show. Think about Carti's performance

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00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: at the Grammys. If Ricky had not done this performance

614
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: back then, we would never have had Carti shaking that

615
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: ass on top of a baby grand piano with thirty

616
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: dancers behind her. Thank you, Ricky, I.

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00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: Mean, with his performance that night, Ricky had arrived.

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00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: If you've been following along closely, Joseph Is found a

619
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: way to work six different boy band titles into the script.

620
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: Any that you didn't get to work in.

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Speaker 2: I never found a way to make mum Bop work.

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00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one's not easy. I bet it had you

623
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: burn it up.

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00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: Jonas brother is well done.

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00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you give me just one night, ninety eight

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Speaker 1: degrees on the next becoming an Icon, we.

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Speaker 2: Take you from Grammy Night nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: Through the Latin Explosion, Yes, the Latin Wave of the

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00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: late nineties, Ricky's career and the career of the stars.

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Speaker 1: Ricky helped launch Becoming an Icon is presented by Sonodl

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00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: and Iheart's Michael Duda podcast Network. Listen to Becoming an

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Speaker 1: Icon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcast