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Speaker 3: Greetings and welcome in a beautiful Tuesday night here live

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Speaker 3: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Appreciate y'all give it

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Speaker 3: us a few minutes to your time becoming part of

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Speaker 3: the extended family on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you

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Speaker 3: happen to be listening to all the affiliates nationwide, We

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Speaker 3: appreciate you. Jason Smith off tonight celebrating a birthday, so

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Speaker 3: hit him up at how about a Prescoay, Remind him

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Speaker 3: how old he looks and how old he's become, Like

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Speaker 3: you'd straight out of a Star Wars movie with us

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Speaker 3: tonight in his stead years in the National Football League,

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Speaker 3: long time voice here on the weekends here Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 3: and we're always pleased when he joins us. It's doctor

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Speaker 3: rich Hornberg. You hear him down in San Diego each

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Speaker 3: and every day. What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Brother, The doctor is in. I made it. I've journeyed

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Speaker 4: far and wide, well actually really just over the to

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Speaker 4: the spare bedroom, to broadcast See Alive, and all over

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Speaker 4: the nation. As you mentioned all those affiliates. We're glad

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Speaker 4: that you're with us tonight. And even though Jason's not here,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do my best to bang the drum for

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Speaker 4: the Jets and Jason Fields and gosh, I mean they

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Speaker 4: are just.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't need any more Justin Fields talk. It's

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Speaker 3: a final no, okay, all right, fair enough, and he's

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Speaker 3: been deposed. We established that yesterday that the era of

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields as a starter with the New York Football

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Speaker 3: Jets are really seemingly anywhere should be done. So congratulations

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Speaker 3: on a job done, and God bless he walked away

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Speaker 3: with an awful lot of cheddar for the effort that

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Speaker 4: This is what I'll say about Justin Fields. You know, look,

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Speaker 4: I think that it is really hard to be a

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Speaker 4: quarterback in the NFL and both observing the game now

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Speaker 4: as a fan like everyone else, in an analyst and

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Speaker 4: during my time playing. When you share the rooms with

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Speaker 4: those guys, you realize you got to be built different

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Speaker 4: to handle the stress and the strain of facing the

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Speaker 4: media for every little thing. I mean, and the bigger

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Speaker 4: the spotlight, the harder it is to operate. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they even break down how Patrick Mahomes walks. There are

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Speaker 4: like tiktoks and Instagram reels just highlighting how goofy he

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Speaker 4: looks when he walks, when he walks Mike, I mean,

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Speaker 4: like everything is under scrutiny. So it's just one of

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Speaker 4: those things where heavy is the head that wears a crown.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, he's a very rich man and a

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Speaker 4: lot of people have a hard time, you know, crying

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Speaker 4: big boohoo tears for millionaires who get to play a

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Speaker 4: kids game for King Ransom. But but I will say

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Speaker 4: it's really hard y. Just because it hasn't worked out

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Speaker 4: for a couple of teams for a couple of years

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean we haven't seen his best yet. Just look

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Speaker 4: at Gino Smith with the Seahawks when he had his

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Speaker 4: re emergence. It hasn't held. But look at Sam Darnold

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Speaker 4: his re emergence with the Vikings. He's made the Seahawks

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Speaker 4: guess I'm gonna say it looks like it could be

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Speaker 4: over for Justin Fields. It may certainly be over for

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Speaker 4: him in New York, but I'm not ready to write

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Speaker 4: off any quarterbacks in today's NFL because we've seen a

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Speaker 3: It's one of the things we talk about quite a

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Speaker 4: Yeah? And I think part of that is obviously there's

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Speaker 4: starting to click here. No, no, no, no no, because wins

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Speaker 4: not long for the job of head coach in this league.

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Speaker 4: And if you don't protect yourself from losing that job,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it doesn't shock me, Mike with that number

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such a good comparison. And it's true, like

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Speaker 4: We knew that the end of the era was coming soon.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's arrived. And then we also know how loyal

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Speaker 4: smelling Thanksgiving Turkey, Mike, you really start seeing who's the

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Speaker 4: the dregs of the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Just to put it in perspective from the AFC, the

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Speaker 3: third in the conference for their five and five record

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Speaker 3: to this point. Some close losses and all those one

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Speaker 3: winning ugly and finishing the job this week Denver the

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Speaker 3: latest example of an opportunity to go get them resplendent

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Speaker 3: in those throwback uniforms of course, where we celebrate those

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Speaker 3: I would love to circle back to the Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 3: pivot rollout. I mean, you ever think about doing one

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Speaker 4: Hey watch me do this reverse pivot and get to

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Speaker 4: the edge. I mean, my goodness, it was I love

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Speaker 4: that plan. So if you can't beat him, join them.

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Speaker 4: Let's start there. The Jalen Hurts tush push dilemma that

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Speaker 4: the Eagles put the entirety of the league in led

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Speaker 4: to an ownership vote that did not get passed to

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Speaker 4: ban the play. So what's happened in reaction, Well, exactly

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Speaker 3: No, No, that's I mean psychologically sure, but it you know,

433
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Speaker 3: it's still the all right, I'm not touching the ball

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Speaker 3: and I may not be seeing a court nearly as

435
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Speaker 3: much as I was where we're not you know, playing

436
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 3: matchups and whatever the same way. So for JJ Reddick,

437
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Speaker 3: I think it's an interesting an interesting balance here, you know.

438
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Speaker 3: And also how many minutes are we expecting off the jump?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea, right, you know, we had the

440
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Speaker 3: the odds went up for the the old Hey, Lebron

441
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Speaker 3: always scores ten in a game. Let me see if

442
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Speaker 3: I can find those right quick, because I saw that

443
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Speaker 3: graphic pop up, which was kind of funny because they

444
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Speaker 3: grabbed about as ridiculous an image of Lebron to reinforce

445
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Speaker 3: that as they could, one of those big if you

446
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Speaker 3: overlaid the grinch, I mean, that was the kind of

447
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Speaker 3: grin he had in the moment. Let's see, it was

448
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: Lebron to score ten or more points minus four thousand,

449
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Speaker 3: score fewer than ten points sixteen to one. Yeah, yeah,

450
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Speaker 3: just the expectation. He comes in and he's going to

451
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Speaker 3: play his minutes, a lot of pregame shoot around. I'm

452
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Speaker 3: curious what's on his playlist as he's going through his motions.

453
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Speaker 3: But I don't know. It's exciting for the NBA. You've

454
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Speaker 3: lost so many guys to injury. We've already seen a

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Speaker 3: laundry list of stars from Wemba Yama and John Morant,

456
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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis, the old Laker, I mean, and we've we've

457
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Speaker 3: watched all of the reports out of there, Dico Harrison

458
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Speaker 3: got himself fired already, you know, all all of those

459
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Speaker 3: things that have flown through. But the Kawhi Leonard missing time,

460
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Speaker 3: no big shock. But when you talk about star power,

461
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Speaker 3: Giannis is now going to miss time because of a

462
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Speaker 3: groin injury. NBA needs Lebron James back right now as

463
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Speaker 3: we hit the holidays.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and shout out to Nika Harrison. You's snuck

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Speaker 4: in a call out. Yeah, I mean easily the MVP

466
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Speaker 4: of the Lakers this season. I mean, he's really who

467
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Speaker 4: helped assemble all this you were I was joking with Frostburg,

468
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 4: he was like, which Kobe statue do you think they're

469
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Speaker 4: gonna take down for Nico's statue? You know? And how

470
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Speaker 4: many how many championships will he be awarded in in

471
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Speaker 4: Los Angeles? You know, here's the thing. Yeah, Doncic is special,

472
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Speaker 4: and Lebron is special, and the way Reeves has stepped

473
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Speaker 4: up as special and some of the minutes that we're

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Speaker 4: seeing really quality minutes from eight and you know what

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Speaker 4: I think we're going to see And I don't want

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Speaker 4: to do. I don't want to do something that you know,

477
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Speaker 4: Lakers fans will be plenty happy to if they demolished

478
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Speaker 4: the Jazz and Lebron plays, you know, even insignificant minutes,

479
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Speaker 4: but looks good, looks healthy, They're gonna be There's gonna

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Speaker 4: be plenty of Laker ball washing, but I think they're

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Speaker 4: gonna be just fine. I think that this, come the

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Speaker 4: end of what is a very very long regular season,

483
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Speaker 4: is going to look like a blip on the raid

484
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Speaker 4: are Oh do you remember when you know Lebron was

485
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 4: heard early in the season, gosh, doesn't he look great again?

486
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Speaker 4: And man, maybe that was the best thing for the

487
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Speaker 4: Lakers to happen, was him go out of the lineup

488
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Speaker 4: for a little bit and all these guys around Lebron

489
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Speaker 4: to start believing himself and college gee Jj Reddick is

490
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Speaker 4: just such a great coach. I can already see the

491
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Speaker 4: headlines being written. And it's going to be much to

492
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Speaker 4: the nausea of the rest of the basketball watching public

493
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Speaker 4: because most people don't want or root for Lakers' success.

494
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Speaker 4: But I think that's where this is heading.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to be relevant, you know, come

496
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Speaker 3: Game eighty and in the mix and healthy and with

497
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Speaker 3: those two guys on the court and maybe Austin Reeves

498
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 3: continues to become a little bit of one of those

499
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Speaker 3: you know, little engine that could you know, success stories

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Speaker 3: that folks love so much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's all gonna work out in

502
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Speaker 4: the end. Here here's what I will say in the

503
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Speaker 4: short term if it doesn't, okay, because I want to

504
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Speaker 4: swing the pendulum the other way and play Devil's advocate

505
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Speaker 4: because it's more fun that way.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, this is what I think will happen. Look, everybody

508
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 4: has strong allegiances until until they don't. And we've seen

509
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: this many times with Lebron James, Like when there needs

510
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 4: to be somebody holding the bag for him publicly for

511
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 4: whatever's wrong with the team, he'll find someone to go

512
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Speaker 4: ahead and take out the trash. And whether they're a

513
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Speaker 4: willing participant or not. How many teammates have we seen

514
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden be at the center of, you know,

515
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 4: a scuttle butt of some sort where they're getting blamed.

516
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Speaker 4: Lebron is you know, Scott Free In the meantime, I

517
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: think where this might go is potentially and I don't

518
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Speaker 4: know how it's going to be worded, whether it's how

519
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Speaker 4: many minutes players are getting or the rotation, You're gonna

520
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 4: start hearing sourced reports about JJ Reddick and how he's

521
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Speaker 4: mishandling this roster. That's where I think it goes. If

522
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Speaker 4: Lebron struggles out the gates, if the team struggles with

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Speaker 4: him being sort of implemented into the lineup after being

524
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Speaker 4: out for so long and the chemistry being so good,

525
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Speaker 4: if it's a herky jerky month here, say for the Lakers,

526
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Speaker 4: which in the grand scheme of things isn't very long,

527
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Speaker 4: but people can lose their mind over a month, I

528
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 4: think you're going to start seeing a lot of people

529
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Speaker 4: make the probably correct assumption that the biggest issue is

530
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Speaker 4: they're having a hard time readjusting to Lebron being in

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Speaker 4: the lineup, And what you're going to see is the

532
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: counter attack from his PR camp and clutch media and

533
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Speaker 4: all of the folks that surround him in his orbit,

534
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Speaker 4: sourcing reports about how JJ Reddick is mishandling this roster.

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Speaker 4: And because somebody's got to hold the back, Oh sure,

536
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Speaker 4: it is going to be the key So so who yeah,

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Speaker 4: so who's going to be the fall guy? And I

538
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Speaker 4: have a feeling it's going to be the head coach.

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Speaker 3: Rich What if I were to tell you Lebron just

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Speaker 3: got boot and warm.

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Speaker 4: Ups not completely shocked people at home after a five

542
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Speaker 4: game road actually didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: But it's believable, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is believable. You know what I would say,

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00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 4: I would say both are likely. I don't know what's

546
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: more likely, but both are likely. He gets boot or

547
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 4: he gets cheered for in warm ups.

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Speaker 3: Good, be no question about it.

549
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: That's how fickle the LA market can be.

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Speaker 3: There's no no doubt about it. Hey, be sure to

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Speaker 3: check out the brand new YouTube channel for the show.

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Speaker 3: Search at Jason Smith Show on YouTube again at Jason

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Speaker 3: search at Jason Smith Show and subscribe Lakers first of

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Speaker 3: a Home and Home with the Jazz twelve and a

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Speaker 3: half point favorites. As we get ready for tip off

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Speaker 3: coming up next, and that makes the perfect time to

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Speaker 3: sign it over to the news desk to our guy,

563
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Speaker 3: A man's man, A man of information. It's steve to say,

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Speaker 3: and a good evening to you of somebody. We start

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Speaker 3: with the NFL.

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Speaker 7: As Bengals star wide receiver Jamar Chase is out this

567
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Speaker 7: weekend as one game suspension was upheld tonight. Texans quarterback

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Speaker 7: c J. Stroud with his concussion. We'll miss a third

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Speaker 7: straight game this Thursday against the Bills. Quarterback Davis Mills

570
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Speaker 7: will start again for Houston. Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers will

571
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Speaker 7: not need surgery on his broken left wrist. He will

572
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Speaker 7: not practice Wednesday, but reportedly he is pushing to play

573
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Speaker 7: Sunday at Chicago. Pittsburgh is optimistic the running back Jalen

574
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Speaker 7: Warren will play despite an ankle injury. Steelers defensive back

575
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Speaker 7: Darius Slay is still in concussion protocol. Titans wide receiver

576
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Speaker 7: Calvin Ridley was placed on injured reserve with a broken leg.

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Speaker 7: Cardinals running back a Mari de Mercado is likely out

578
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Speaker 7: this weekend with a high ankle spring well. The new

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Speaker 7: college football playoff rankings are out this evening. The top

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Speaker 7: three stayed the same with number one Ohio State in

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Speaker 7: Indiana and Texas A and M. Georgia now number four.

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Speaker 7: Oklahoma up to number eight in the country, then number

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Speaker 7: nine Notre Dame, and number ten Alabama. Sobama would just

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Speaker 7: barely make the playoff at this point. Not making the

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Speaker 7: playoff at this point number eleven BYU or number twelve

586
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Speaker 7: Utah because number thirteen Miami would be in if it's

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Speaker 7: the ACC champion. Also in would be TWU Lane at

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Speaker 7: number twenty four in the country. Tulane would be the

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Speaker 7: best of the so called group of five teams. As

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Speaker 7: of now. The matchups would be Alabama in a first

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Speaker 7: round game at Oregon, and next month it would be

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Speaker 7: Notre Dame at Oklahoma in the first round. The top

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Speaker 7: four would get first round bys. College football selection Sunday

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Speaker 7: is December the seventh. There's a doubleheader of college basketball

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Speaker 7: tonight at Madison Square Garden. Already at a top twenty matchup,

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Speaker 7: Michigan State rold Kentucky eighty three to sixty six. Number

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Speaker 7: five Duke leads hans Is sixty to fifty three with

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Speaker 7: under ten minutes to go. In the NBA, the Spurs

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Speaker 7: won one eleven one oh one over Memphis de Aaron

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Speaker 7: Fox with twenty six points. Victor wemen Yama is out

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Speaker 7: with a strained calf, and the Spurs Defon Castle with

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Speaker 7: a strained hip, will be reevaluated in one to two weeks.

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Speaker 7: He was Rookie of the Year last season. Milwaukee's Giannis

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Speaker 7: Antennacumpo could miss up to two weeks with a strain groin.

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Speaker 7: Lebron James of La is making his season debut tonight

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Speaker 7: after a bad back. The Lakers at ten and four

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Speaker 7: about to tip off hosting the Utah Jazz. There is

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Speaker 7: a game later than that in a half an hour,

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Speaker 7: Phoenix at Portland. Memphis, by the way, had lost four

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Speaker 7: in a row going into its l at San Antonio tonight,

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Speaker 7: but Detroit has won eleven in a row after a

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Speaker 7: victory at Atlanta one twenty to one. Twelve victories for

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Speaker 7: Boston and Orlando among the NHL games, eight of them tonight.

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Speaker 7: Islanders now have a three to two lead in the

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Speaker 7: final seconds at Dallas Tampa Bay a five to one

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Speaker 7: winner over New Jersey. That's your Show to Imanaga accepted

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Speaker 7: a qualifying offer to stay with the Cubs. Spain and

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Speaker 7: Belgium among those earning spots in next summer's World Cup,

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Speaker 7: and US Men's soccer had its final game this year,

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Speaker 7: winning an exhibition in Tampa five to one over Uruguay.

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Speaker 7: The Americans led three nothing after about thirty minutes and

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Speaker 7: four nothing late in the first half.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, thanks so much, Steve. As we continue

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Speaker 3: here from the Fox Sports Radio studios, Mike Carvin alongside

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Speaker 3: Rich Ornberger. At Ornberger where you find him, O h

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Speaker 3: R N ask Dr gr that's right, Ask Rich. It's

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Speaker 3: not become the drop because of the Rich Samini fun

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Speaker 3: back and forth Aaron Glenn when he got all indignant

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Speaker 3: a week ago. So it's your name and you get

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Speaker 3: spotlighted a lot, Ask Rich. Ask Rich, it's not a

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Speaker 3: bad way. I don't have an answer much. Ask Rich.

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Speaker 3: You may not have any idea what we're talking about,

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Speaker 3: but ask him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, please do any questions our fair game.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, well you are the doctor at Orberger if you

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Speaker 3: have those questions. But coming up next, as we heard

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Speaker 3: in the update, the new college football playoff rankings and

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Speaker 3: first round projected matchups are out. A number twenty four

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Speaker 3: is part of the mix that gets people with their

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Speaker 3: handwringing going. We'll see what the explanations are this week,

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Speaker 3: because last week it was all about how the eye

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Speaker 3: test looked and style points. Did that hold for another week?

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Speaker 3: We'll talk.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show. Well

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Speaker 3: we got our guy Rich Ornberger in with us hey.

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Speaker 3: perhaps a bit of awkwardness reacquaintance kind of moments here

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Speaker 3: for the Los Angeles Lakers as they're kind of standing

657
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Speaker 3: around reintroducing themselves to each other. Is Utah's jumped out

658
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Speaker 3: to a sixteen to six lead on midway through the

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Speaker 3: first for the Lakers. They got two shots up in

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Speaker 3: the first three minutes of an NBA game in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and are in our world. This is what you

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Speaker 4: would call not working. But again again, like I mean,

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Speaker 4: we're talking about Q one of the very first game

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Speaker 4: that Lebron is on the foe the shows now minit Hornberger, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I know that's true. But still, I mean, we're not

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Speaker 4: even all the way halfway through the first quarter, and

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Speaker 4: I asked Frostburg, I'm like, do you think they sho

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Speaker 4: you call it like a season? Do you think it's over?

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Speaker 4: And Hugh was like, now, come on, come on, there's

671
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Speaker 4: still time.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna send me that greasy guy as soon as

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Speaker 3: they draw even there's a gift that he sends me,

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Speaker 3: the guy mouthing the word Nakers with his big fake

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Speaker 3: gold chain on. So we'll see that, I'm sure later

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Speaker 3: on as we go. Lebron in the early going over

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Speaker 3: one took a three point shot, and we'll see as

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Speaker 3: this game continues the fluidity and how the rotations work,

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Speaker 3: but certainly a curiosity. One more game on the slate,

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Speaker 3: the eight pm Peacock game that'll come up that has

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Speaker 3: everybody also wringing their hands because of well it's eleven

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Speaker 3: o'clock East Coast time before you get a tip off,

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Speaker 3: so some of that saltiness that rolls through. But earlier

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Speaker 3: this evening we got the latest iteration of the college

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Speaker 3: football rankings rich for the college football playoffs up the top.

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Speaker 3: You know, we get this the usual suspects stated in

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Speaker 3: one through three. So that's all fine. Alabama after losing

688
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Speaker 3: to Oklahoma. So now you've got number four Georgia. It

689
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Speaker 3: jumps up Texas Tech sitting at number five. A week ago,

690
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Speaker 3: we were listening to the committee talk about style points

691
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Speaker 3: and oh they settled for too many field goals for

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Speaker 3: their liking. So it felt like we were back in

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Speaker 3: the Spurrier and Bowden days with some of the commentary

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Speaker 3: that they had last week. This week a lot centering

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Speaker 3: on Mario Christobal, where we've got Miami at thirteen, but

696
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Speaker 3: they jump into the back end of the playoff grid

697
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Speaker 3: as we sit here today, and you've got the head

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Speaker 3: to head win over Notre Dame, but Notre Dame's two

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Speaker 3: losses come into ranked teams versus Miami losing to SMU

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Speaker 3: and Louisville. So plenty of football to be played to

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Speaker 3: sort this all out. But the politicking goes on as

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Speaker 3: soon as the numbers hit the sheets.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's no question about it. I mean, look,

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Speaker 4: I think some of the broad sweeps and strokes you

705
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Speaker 4: can make looking at this CFP. I mean, first and foremost,

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Speaker 4: what I'll say is, I mean not as many SEC

707
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Speaker 4: teams looking as dangerous as they did to start the season. Sure,

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's one of the things that sticks

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Speaker 4: out in my mind. I mean, you know, I'm looking

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Speaker 4: at the twelve teams that would be invited into the postseason.

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Speaker 4: It's like, hey, where are you Texas. Wasn't everybody where

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Speaker 4: are you? You know, it wasn't everybody really excited about

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Speaker 4: you know, It's like, we don't know, you never know.

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Speaker 4: You know, you start the season with all these bold proclamations,

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Speaker 4: and I'll give you another one that's kind of rattling

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Speaker 4: around in my brain, like, I don't think that the

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Speaker 4: teams emerging from the Big Ten are nearly as battle

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Speaker 4: tested as the teams emerging from what has become an

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Speaker 4: extremely contentious se See. You know, so Ohio State's sitting

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Speaker 4: pretty if you start to really investigate their strength of schedule,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can make some arguments and I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to call them overrated. But my co host on

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Speaker 4: Countdown over the weekends, Brian No, he'd make that argument

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Speaker 4: right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of that comes from his Notre Dame base,

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Speaker 3: from growing up Indian.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, there's no question about it there his his

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Speaker 4: colors don't run and you know his gold Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 4: but but but you know, look, I mean, if you

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Speaker 4: are going to do some further deeper investigation into Ohio STATEA,

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't call them frauds, not by a long shot.

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Speaker 4: But there are some people who are eager to Indiana.

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Speaker 4: Are we thinking that they're going to survive well against

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Speaker 4: the strength of the SEC? I don't know, but I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm not completely commenced Oregon to me eyeball test wise.

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Speaker 4: They've got some really special playmakers around a very young,

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Speaker 4: untested quarterback who's had a brilliant season, But do they

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Speaker 4: look like Oregon of last year. There's some question marks

739
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Speaker 4: around the Big Ten and so look, this list will change.

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Speaker 4: We know there are gonna be more upsets this season.

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Speaker 4: If there's one thing you can guarantee week to week

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Speaker 4: is more upsets in college football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one of the big things when we

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Speaker 3: go through you got on the play, what's on the schedule,

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Speaker 3: and until we get to a super conference crossover, you know,

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Speaker 3: kill a crossover event or everybody realizes you know where

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Speaker 3: the next big pot of gold is, which is more

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Speaker 3: Big Ten in SEC battles, that this is where we're

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Speaker 3: gonna get.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: We go through the regular season and there's always gonna

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Speaker 3: be haves and have nots, and it becomes the question

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Speaker 3: of do you do you then have relegation. Fortunately, my

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Speaker 3: Northwestern squad is good enough this year that they wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be there. But you know, we'll get to another Big

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Speaker 3: Ten topic as the show goes on. But it's just that, Rich,

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Speaker 3: you play the schedule, and then if you go into

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Speaker 3: the postseason. Once upon a time, it was the bowl season, right,

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Speaker 3: and you'd have guys teams roll through say the Big

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Speaker 3: Ten or another conference, and then they'd go up against

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Speaker 3: the teams of the SEC, which were better athletes and

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Speaker 3: better speed at the wide receiver position, better cornerbacks, and

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Speaker 3: you were right back. It's just twenty years later. Not

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Speaker 3: much has changed in that regard. He's Rich orn Berger

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Speaker 3: on Mike Carmon here Fox Sports Radio. As we continue

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Speaker 3: a little more back to the National Football League finders.

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Speaker 4: So if that's my physical I could get out there

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Speaker 4: and look, I don't want to. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: under estimate or pretend like what these offensive linemen are

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Speaker 4: asked to do at the NFL level is easy by

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Speaker 4: any stretch. It's a lonely feeling when a team knows

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Speaker 4: that they've got your number up front and they can

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Speaker 4: start picking you apart with and getting you know, one

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Speaker 4: on one blocks. That was a rough game against the

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars. That was a tough loss for the Chargers,

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Speaker 4: especially when you look at a down year for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: An opportunity to pounds and you know Denver winning close

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Speaker 4: ones left and right, you kind of feel like his

779
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Speaker 4: others you're gonna drop, you know. It's just a man,

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Speaker 4: what a squandered opportunity. And it all came down to

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Speaker 4: those two major injuries between Alt and Slater.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about it a lot, the the problems from

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Speaker 3: the training room. They went away for a year and

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Speaker 3: here they circle right back right. It's one of those

785
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Speaker 3: things with the Chargers, with the Ravens, we've chronicled probably

786
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Speaker 3: the last half decade plus where they've lost an an

787
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Speaker 3: ordinate number of starts to injury. So it hits again

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Speaker 3: with those two big players, Slater and all on the

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Speaker 3: offensive line and the trickle down effect. They're in with

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Speaker 3: the squad. You also hear rich as part of the

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Speaker 3: San Diego State football five and one, eight and two overall,

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Speaker 3: first in the Mountain West Conference. One of your many

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Speaker 3: hats that you.

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Speaker 4: Wear, thank you. Yeah. Yeah, they sit alone atop the

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Speaker 4: Mountain West. You know, a group of five masterpiece is

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Speaker 4: what this overall season has looked like. They've had a

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Speaker 4: couple of losses and tough ones on the road. They

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Speaker 4: lost a Washington State against the Cougars in Pullman on

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Speaker 4: the Poloose out there. They they they just they squandered

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Speaker 4: what looked like a good and fast start to losing

801
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Speaker 4: kind of the middle eight minutes of that game and

802
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Speaker 4: never got it back. And then they got beat soundly

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Speaker 4: on the Hawaiian Islands against the University of Hawaii. That

804
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Speaker 4: was their first ragn date. They just beat Boise State

805
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Speaker 4: in the driving rain in San Diego. Through most of

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Speaker 4: the game. It was kind of spotty in the second half,

807
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Speaker 4: but the run game wasn't. They only threw They threw

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Speaker 4: for less than twenty yards and they won a game

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Speaker 4: by ten points.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those scatemy kind of games, is what

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Speaker 3: it looked like. It sounded like got to hear a

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Speaker 3: little bit. I was in the car for a bunch

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Speaker 3: of that one, and I listened to our Chargers brethren

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Speaker 3: Sprosburg and Matt money Smith and Daniel Jeremiah on that one. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, different excitement levels of course, but the driving

816
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Speaker 3: rain really taking some of the juice out of what

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Speaker 3: we're doing. There's another run play and another run play.

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Speaker 3: But hey, it's effective football, right, it's winning football.

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Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah. Look, you know, and I give a

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Speaker 4: lot of credits offensive coordinators in general, who, in whatever

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Speaker 4: it is, face with adversity or or not, you know,

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Speaker 4: just finding what works in a singular moment, in a

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Speaker 4: singular game, sticking to it. Like, there are so many

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinators who can't get out of their own way

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Speaker 4: where they're calling places from the sideline because they're on

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Speaker 4: the call sheet. You know, it's like, well, we got

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Speaker 4: to use them because we practiced them this week. Well,

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Speaker 4: what's wrong with just run in the plays that work?

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Speaker 4: You know, what's wrong with dominating people and blowing people

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Speaker 4: off the wall play after play after play in the

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Speaker 4: run game, and if that proves to be effective and

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Speaker 4: they don't have an effective answer, to that proven concept,

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Speaker 4: just going back to it and going back to it

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Speaker 4: and going back to it. And you know, we saw

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Speaker 4: a lot of that Saturday, fortunately for San Diego State

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Speaker 4: and my squad out here in San Diego, and then

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Speaker 4: unfortunately my old squad the Los Angeles Chargers on the

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Speaker 4: road in Jacksonville. It was kind of like the shoe

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Speaker 4: was on the other foot Jacksonville who just found the

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Speaker 4: key to success against the Chargers, which is, you know,

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Speaker 4: just I mean, take runs at Justin Herbert, get his

842
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 4: cage rattled early and he started to come unwound a

843
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Speaker 4: little bit down the stretch of that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you saw the run game with ETN

845
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Speaker 3: and Toot and doing their thing. Trevor Lawrence for a while.

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Speaker 3: He just had perfected that two step to just get

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Speaker 3: the ball into their gut. So as we float through,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk more NFL in just a moment, because you

849
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Speaker 3: want to see what the cost of an egregious offensive

850
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Speaker 3: act is. One NFL player found out as a suspension

851
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Speaker 3: got held up. We'll tell you what it cost him.

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Speaker 3: But first a quick update. The Lakers at home down

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Speaker 3: nine to the Utah jazz lebron James I Oh for

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Speaker 3: one in his seven minutes played in that first quarter,

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Speaker 3: So we'll keep an eye on that. Your leading score

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Speaker 3: was Heantay George with thirteen for the Lakers, Luca nine

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Speaker 3: points on three of seven shooting. Now in the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: Steelers and Cincinnati Bengals game, a very publicized act, you know,

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Speaker 3: a disgusting act to steal from Joe Buck all those

860
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Speaker 3: years ago at that Randy Moss celebration. But you know,

861
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 3: we've seen the proliferation an epidemic, as it were, of

862
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: spitting across the National Football League, and here you had

863
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey and Jamar Chase getting after it. Mike Tomlin

864
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,959
Speaker 3: was asked, you know, hey, if your guys in the middle,

865
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: I like, what do you say?

866
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 4: I have no message of someone spits in your face.

867
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: You do what comes natural, and.

868
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: There you have it, right, get yourself thrown out. But look,

869
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 3: your instincts are gonna take out because it's about as disrespectful.

870
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what's what would be worse. Right,

871
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: we talk about sucker punches and all the other stuff

872
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: that we see on a field, but spitting as bad

873
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: as it gets. Want a guess with the game, check

874
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 3: and fine and everything totaled for Jamar Chase?

875
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, what did that all add up to?

876
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 3: Being five hundred and seven thousand dollars?

877
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: That's an expensive mistake.

878
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 3: Very and the suspended for a game, Not that the

879
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 3: Bengals are going anywhere, but it's part of the larger

880
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 3: narrative of do you bother bringing Joe Burrow back off

881
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: the shelf after another loss? And now with your top

882
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 3: options sidelined Week twelve.

883
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 4: Man, you know I'm gonna I'm gonna start kind of

884
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 4: at the start. Anybody who spits on anybody has what's

885
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 4: coming to them, you know what I mean. Like, it's

886
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 4: just I I don't I don't get it. I've I've

887
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 4: never understood it. I mean, don't get me wrong, I

888
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 4: get it from this standpoint. If you want to disrespect

889
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 4: somebody in one of the most egregious ways, I mean,

890
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 4: that's that's pretty that's pretty high up the list. You know,

891
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 4: if we're talking about one on one, like what can

892
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 4: I do to you and not to those you love?

893
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 4: Like just me against you? What can I do to

894
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 4: you to show you ultimately that I have zero respect

895
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 4: for you? Go ahead and do that to me? I agree.

896
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 4: One hund with what Mike Tomlins said at the podium.

897
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 4: He can't. He obviously will get fined himself if he

898
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 4: advocates for violence. But you're playing a violent game in

899
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 4: a gladiatorial sport amongst al for men, You're gonna get

900
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 4: what's coming to you. And here's your problem. If you're

901
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase, your divisional rival, you think that just goes away.

902
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 4: You think you think like you think this is over. No,

903
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: it's not over. So kind of a kind of a

904
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 4: dumb move. It kinda I mean more than a dumb

905
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 4: move obviously with the you you tally the game, check

906
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: the suspension, harming your team's success, you know, whatever success

907
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 4: they'd have, you know, and then obviously you know your

908
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 4: reputation whatever hit that takes. Man oh man. Also, you're

909
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: just kind of putting your own safety on the line

910
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 4: because how many times have we seen, especially between the

911
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals and Pittsburgh Steelers, you know, grudges be held.

912
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 4: Do you remember that Vontes Berg Tony Brown.

913
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's the name that comes up immediately. Yeah, yeah,

914
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: just plenty of those instances. And we look at Antoni

915
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 3: Brown and obviously he's facing some really difficult. Self induced

916
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: circumstances here, no question, but you know some of it

917
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: people keep trying to wonder if it didn't come back

918
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: from initially that hit.

919
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is this is the the problem.

920
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 4: When you play a kid's game, like a kid in

921
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 4: a man's league, you will you will put a target

922
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 4: on your back. You know. If there's one thing that

923
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 4: you know is true of even war, is there are rules, right,

924
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 4: you know we've agreed to long ago, Like there are

925
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 4: certain things even international conflicts amongst the hottest of rivals,

926
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 4: you just don't do you know, you're not gassing populations,

927
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: buying large civilians should be protected like there are there

928
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 4: are rules, members of the press, whatever it may be.

929
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 4: That's the same thing in football now obviously the stakes

930
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 4: are much lower. You know, there's nobody dying there on

931
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 4: bombs going off, nobody's ducking under rubble or bunkers to

932
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 4: avoid you know, what could be their destiny waiting in

933
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 4: front of them. And the warfighters who go to fight

934
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 4: for this country are some of the bravest men and

935
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 4: women on the planet, and thank God every day for them.

936
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 4: But getting back to the comparison in football, even though

937
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 4: it seems lawless at times, even though you can play

938
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: up until the echo of the whistle, even though you

939
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 4: can throw punches, and you can grab somebody by the neck,

940
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 4: and you can throw an elbow into a gut, or

941
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 4: you can cheap cheap shot somebody under a pile. Like

942
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 4: all those things, they don't overall break any rules, unwritten

943
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 4: or otherwise. You may bend a few by doing some

944
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 4: of those things I just mentioned, But Chase, he broke

945
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 4: a rule. You know, this is all fairs in love

946
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: and war, except when you take it too far. And

947
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 4: took it too far, and unfortunately, the the outcome of

948
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 4: those type of actions is that gets sorted out between

949
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: friends in locker rooms and then out on the field

950
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: on Sunday. So next time the Steelers see the Bengals, unfortunately,

951
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 4: he's gonna have to watch out for himself because there's

952
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 4: just no excuse for that kind of behavior.

953
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: Little extra coming back and thinking you're getting away with

954
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: it in today's day and age, where the cameras from

955
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: the guy sitting in the three hundred level are going

956
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 3: to pick up anything like that, let alone the HD

957
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 3: cameras that are aligning the field of Miller to boast

958
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 3: a whole other thing. You know, you got you got

959
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 3: deep on me there, and I started, you know, getting

960
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 3: you know, those those fields of the patriotism and everything.

961
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: Whereas initially in my mind I was just going back

962
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 3: to Anchorman, not the face, not the face, to your

963
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: San Diego residence down there. But I mean, take me

964
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 3: back to your your playing career, right, you play at

965
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: Penn State, You're highly competitive, you know, well accomplished, and

966
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 3: then six years in the National Football League. Anything you

967
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 3: want to, you know, get dispensation for, like I'm a

968
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 3: priest here on national airwaves of things you may have

969
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 3: done in a pile or things that were committed against you.

970
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I did certain things, you know, unspeakable things

971
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 4: that I wish I didn't have to own up to.

972
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 4: But Father Harmon, I guess I will right here and

973
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 4: right now. I used to spoil movies for people on

974
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 4: the field.

975
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 3: You miserable. Hey, have you seen this yet?

976
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: No?

977
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 3: Guess what happened. They're all already dead. Yeah, is dead?

978
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I mean yeah.

979
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 3: All of those family nights that they were gonna have

980
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 3: with their kids.

981
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 4: All dogs go to heaven. Well, guess what one does

982
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 4: for sure? It's just I feel terrible. I know by

983
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 4: the way in when you're at it. We should have

984
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 4: we should have led off this whole part of the

985
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: conversation with spoiler alert. Sorry real quick.

986
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, buddy, we have as many points as Lebron does tonight.

987
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh combined. Oh my gosh, all four of us,

988
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 3: five of us not go in there too. Yeah, there

989
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 3: you go.

990
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 4: Not good.

991
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 3: Not good.

992
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 4: DeAndre playing low post tonight. I have a feeling we

993
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 4: may pass Ole Brown.

994
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. We'll feed him inside, no question

995
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 3: about it. At Ornberger where you find him in the twitterverse,

996
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: find me over at Swollen Dome. Coming up next to

997
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 3: the curious case of Lane Kiffen, the most sought after

998
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: coach in the land. He does protest, perhaps a bit

999
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: too much for my liking. What does doctor Rich say?

1000
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: We'll tell you next here on Fox Sports Radio.